What We Learned After Testing a Toyota Supra Over 40,000 Miles | Car and Driver

[@christiangarage7015]

Ive had mine for a month with 10k miles, I drove it from utah to Florida and then back again and I can honestly say it was a dream to drive. The adaptive cruise control works amazing, I stayed at 30mpg consistently and had enough room to store a large suitcase, 2 backpacks and my camera gear. Amaxing vehicle I am in love.

[@club.alfagt]

The v6 got 30mpg? Or do you have the 4 cyl ?

[@r-3675]

@@club.alfagt The I6 easily gets 30mpg highway. I regularly get 32+ going long distance.

[@gotworc]

@@club.alfagt yeah it's rated for that lol

[@chidogg93]

A Large suit case! I need to see this

[@attentiondeficitsquirrel7660]

I’m planning on getting one. I’m on the fence but videos like these help. Any advice, recommendations? Should I? Shouldn’t I?

[@singular9]

One thing about the "reliability". Toyota said that they tested and revised the b58, sent it back to BMW saying that "its not good enough", and that is when BMW (they have said this on record) learned a lot from toyota about how far they are willing to go to get the engine to be reliable. When they sent it back to toyota, toyota ran it for an effective 1 million miles RPM wise, and it lasted. Toyota was happy. That is why the S58 and the B58 are so different and aren't interchangeable. Then when BMW put the b58 in to everything...they were making headlines for making "the best engine ever made".

[@Tyler-b7j6h]

There B48 is no slouch either

[@chrisginoc]

​@@Tyler-b7j6hTrue. Bmw benefited so much from this collaboration. Look at what the S58 is doing in the new G87 M2.

[@fooleanperspective1426]

What a load of bollocks

[@rchen404]

Source?

[@chrisginoc]

@@rchen404 Collaboration in data and information. Maybe Toyota didn't help bmw one cent with improvement in engines? I do know BMW ascended the last 5 years from not reliable to very reliable in consumer rankings. Pure coincidence? 🤷‍♂️

[@2HellWUtube]

The most useful Supra video I've come across so far. A minimum of 20% of every other video focuses on the fact that "it's basically a BMW". Thanks for not being obnoxious about it.

[@timothyhedrick5295]

@5:15 I have a 2021 3.0 Premium and agree the wind buffeting when windows down is one of the WORST flaws in this car, however, there are some aftermarket deflectors that completely fix this problem. The ones I chose were carbon fiber, attached just over the sideview mirrors. Honestly, you can't even tell they aren't an original part of the car's body and they completely eliminate the noise. You don't even see them when you are looking at the car. I'm surprised Toyota hasn't incorporated the deflector design into their side view mirror design to resolve this issue for good for future buyers.

[@massimilianocarraro1302]

Hi Timothy, do you have a link to the items you're mentioning? 🙃

[@ukyo2010]

My children gave me 3 days of rental of a 2020 Supra for my birthday last year. Without exaggeration, it was the best birthday present I ever received. It was a lot of fun.

[@ArmandoDomingos]

This is a great modern way to enjoy the Car and Driver content I’ve known for almost 30 years. Keep up the great work!

[@petchris01]

Carlos, glad to see you back! The wind buffeting can be addressed with aftermarket stick-on parts. You can find several videos on YT. There’s no excuse for Toyota not to have addressed this. The lack of a spare in a sports car: I’ve owned & driven plenty of sports cars w/o spare tires. Servicing: The lack of the necessary parts after calling ahead for service is inexcusable. Owners will have to build into their lexicon to have service verify they have parts on hand. 😎🏁👍

[@huckfin1598]

He’ll be gone again

[@JacesOwnWorld]

That's not something that should have to be addressed. Last thing I would want is to slap on some ebay stick on parts to make something that should never have been an issue, go away, on my $60k+ BMW

[@misnomerl6329]

You know whats more annoying than wind buffeting? The sound of the honk! I don’t really mind the buffeting but damn that honk….smh

[@851995STARGATE]

Even though it's easily fixed, a car that's $52k-$60k out the door should have that resolved by now, doesn't take an engineer that much to flair out that mirror area to fix it from the factory but they are just ignoring that feedback

[@ChatNoir443]

I had to Google the word "lexicon"

[@spectech73]

Just got a 2022 Supra. The wind buffeting is a simple fix and is a non issue. Spectacular car.

[@JoshGlastra]

What was your fix?

[@spectech73]

$9.00 Amazon fix. Works perfectly. @@JoshGlastra

[@cbotten106]

So simple it remains a undisclosed. @@JoshGlastra

[@6lav]

@@JoshGlastra $10 amazon window cover lol

[@em34ev3r]

@@cbotten106 do basic research.

[@P4SDetails]

I love the long term tests. It helps me get an idea of what it is really like to own this car.

[@mhmyuhh]

yea thats literally the whole point

[@hmdsidd]

100%, I see tons of reviewers talking about car alternatives but always fail to mention the reliability aspects of the car whatsoever

[@P4SDetails]

@@hmdsidd and reliability is clutch, right? I don’t care about initial reactions. I care about how awesome is the car gonna be after 100K miles.

[@faultless18]

@@P4SDetails speaking facts! The true reliability of a car is after 100k miles. Well maintained of course.

[@P4SDetails]

@@faultless18 of course.

[@revaholic]

Great to see Carlos Lago join C&D. Treat him well and hopefully he can use his knowledge of performance cars in these videos

[@CarlosLago]

🙏

[@stories1984]

Stay warm, Carlos!

[@huckfin1598]

Why? He’ll just leave for another company before you realize it

[@smithsfan425]

I don’t even know which auto media outlet he’s working for when he pops up, but he is entertaining so clearly he can afford to jump ship to the highest bidder.

[@taylorc2542]

This is C/D's last chance as a brand of any significant. The magazine is effectively dead, and this is like their 3rd attempt at moving to a new medium. It's a shame that they can't capture the essence of the magazine they had 30 years ago. Brock Yates should have been the American Clarkson. Lagos would have been better off to run his own channel.

[@BenMcNelly]

I picked mine up January of 2020, and only have 23k miles on it, and for solo road trips it is amazing. The tuning and mod ease has been a joy. Still a good sports car and I love to daily drive it.

[@Lifewithibby97]

Im picking mine up on tuesday, any issues since u last posted?

[@davepaturno4290]

​@Moviecaps97 Keep an eye out for the oil pump that is used when the car checks oil level. The 2020s and some 2021s have pumps that tend to fail, requiring replacement with an updated version.

[@off-roadingcars]

I’ve been reading C&D for 30 years and just loved this video. The format is great; I like that this was a discussion of a long term test with all the explanations. You guys did a great job with this. Please do more.

[@tims9294]

Wind buffeting is a cheap fix in the aftermarket. For winter tires I recommend the Michelin Alpin PA4 tires. I drive in 8” of snow no problem with my Supra. I live in West Michigan and we get a lot of lake effect snow.

[@timo5229]

8 inches in a Supra? You’re braver than me

[@alexnutcasio936]

@@tupops suspension is not the issue. It’s the ground clearance.

[@mulletsquirrel]

8 inches? Yeah right! That thing would be plowing so hard.

[@alechall7082]

Yea sure 8 inches of snow while following a plow

[@Bacon12954]

As long as you have the right tires most cars will go through some nasty conditions

[@hayden6327]

Had my 21 3.0 Supra for 8 months, have put 14k miles on it so far daily driving with zero issues. I’m 6’4 and find the car very comfortable especially the seats, arguably the Most comfortable car I’ve ever driven. Absolutely love it!

[@manueldelcaribe2180]

Good BMW 😂

[@9000eldiablo]

People hate me for this but this has grown over me more than the MK4🤷

[@theojk]

That’s bc it’s a badass car, and you have good taste. And the haters can keep hating.

[@BMF-MKV]

ive had the car for 7-8 months now and just hit 30k, i drive it everyday and LOVE it, the lack of issues besides normal wear (tires, fluids) it has been amazing, 0 complaints!

[@davepaturno4290]

I have a 2024 45th Anniversay Supra that I bought almost a year ago. Other than a very rare diff output shaft leak within the first 600 miles (repaired under warranty by Toyota), everything has been great. My first (free) oil change will be within the next few weeks at approximately 4000 miles. 2/3 of the car has STEK PPF to protect the paint.

[@xxCablexx]

I don't think anyone reviews driving dynamics better than Carlos, very knowledgeable and great to hear his thoughts

[@trev8743]

I love my 2021 3.0 GR Supra and have every day for the past six months or so. I appreciate you guys posting this video. I will definitely agree that road trips with the miss turn into a game of tetris with the cargo space but we make it work. In relation to the stock issues for service, one of the service managers here at Toyota in Texas told me that BMW doesn't "release" those parts to Toyota until your Supra is on the lot and set for service. SM then told me for any service, recall, alignment, etc that I should bring it in early on the day of service and *hope* to have it back the next day. Not ideal and certainly don't like the idea of leaving my car for days just for an alignment but it seems unavoidable as an owner who has ToyotaCare.

[@Massacari]

Another reason i would never buy a rebadged BMW

[@trev8743]

@@Massacari A small inconvenience for a great sports car. Not a big deal at the end of the day.

[@jafu745]

It's these kind of things the early press releases and reviews fail to mention.

[@jafu745]

This just shows that their cooperation was not well thought out. And hpnestly, it is not a 400 kmh+ car yhat can literally drive off its wheels. Any tire show with a geometry tray should be able and have access to the data to set the geometry.

[@trianggaindralukmana2184]

@@jafu745 easy just go to bridgestone tire shops or wheel alignment specialist that has autodata or other data bank software of alignment Todays no secret in car repairs

[@nikn8tr]

I’m a semi truck repair tech and the amount of similar technology between this engine and the trucks I work on every day is insane. I love high pressure common rail design of the injector, incredibly efficient and should be used on all cars eventually. Air to water cooler is the same as a EGR cooler which don’t leak as often as you may think, when they do they very rarely lock up an engine or dump excess coolant in intake circuit. Very very interesting, bmw is onto something here with this engine specifically. The only downfall I have seem to come across is most normal or average people will not be able to EFFECTIVELY service or do repairs on this vehicle. But at the same time the price of the vechicle seems that most people would not do there own maintenance or repairs, especially when you compare to C8 vette which was supposed to be (back in 2020 and 2019) the biggest competitor.

[@creamurr]

As a 5,4 lean and flexible enough male I can say this car is perfectly comfortable. In fact it eliminates all effort as far as keeping your body up, as if the seats do all the work for u

[@keith6360]

Larlos Cago is back! I miss his OG Ignition vids from Motortrend. Hope C&D gives him a show something similar.

[@danharvanich660]

I really like Carlos. He is way better than 99% of other car reviewers out there.

[@gioluevano]

Carlos! Easily my favorite car video reviewer. Glad to you see you back, and hopefully for a long time. Congrats!

[@arivette2010]

Good to see Carlos at Car and Driver!!

[@pretzel59]

First thing i had to my 2020 was also a new set of tires. Not from burning them off ( although I wanted to ) but from factory the alignment is ever so slightly off causing premature wear in the inside lip of the tire. Once done. car drove so much better. It wasn't following the road anymore.

[@OffensiveJestr]

I put a deposit down on 2024 3.0 liter premium with a manual. Can't wait to take delivery of it, I even let my wife pick the color.

[@mattvaughan180]

Are you liking the manual supra?

[@swanblake]

Carlos is my favorite. Great job on this long term wrap up!

[@kylehamm7287]

Subscribed for Carlos and I rarely leave comments on KZbin. Good job C&D for picking him up…

[@tCruzin4Lyfe]

Love my Supra and yes, getting service is such a hassle. My 2nd oil change visit went a lot better at Toyota. Also when I got the recall down it was smooth. Great car and I have tons of fun with it. You have the haters but what I will say to those on the fence or worried about that, don’t let it sway you. Most people who hate bring up BMW and it’s normally from someone who doesn’t even own a sports car, can’t afford one or wife won’t let them have one lol.

[@AQ-101]

The Supra is my dream car, it's really good 😁

[@LV426Survivor]

Ask BMW owners about owning a BMW long term then try to hand wave away the insane repair costs as "people who don't even own one or pah cant afford it"

[@KonohazFinest]

I can more than afford one but wouldn't touch that "supra".

[@tCruzin4Lyfe]

@@KonohazFinest That’s fine too. To each their own. I wouldn’t touch a van, truck or Crossover but there’s plenty others that love them.

[@KonohazFinest]

@@tCruzin4Lyfe fair enough it just irks me and some purist that it's not a spiritual successor with that BMW engine. But like you said to each their own it's just when you said the thing about those not getting it cause they can't afford a sports car isn't always true for all.

[@ianmock2]

The BMW straight six has been very fuel efficient since the e90 chassis. My 06 330i would easily get 36 mpg at 70mph on long trips. I was able to drive over 400 miles on a 16 gallon tank, and that included about 10% city driving.

[@homerthompson6028]

Sounds about right. I can do that at 60 mph on my 335i at like 1800 rpm when the turbos are barely spooling

[@anthonyk]

I was getting 35mpg with my 2003 530i automatic at 65mph I plan on getting my ccv fixed and some new injectors and hoping to push out 37 or 38 maybe some power pulleys also could help.

[@MatthewGaither]

Great summary on a car I might be interested in one of these days. With news of the manual version not being too far off I am definitely keeping my options open. Thanks Carlos and C&D.

[@alexgrogan2532]

It's awesome to see this content for free unlike some other magazines channels.

[@kid2519]

Love to see Carlos back in the car reviews!

[@sundippatel1796]

Great to see Carlos again !

[@tonykono5225]

Crack the passenger window and you’ll eliminate buffering.

[@SupraDebt]

21k on my 2020 GR Supra, has the pieces to get rid of wind noise and i do my own services. Living in Las Vegas no worries about 3 seasons. we only get 2, hot or hoodie weather. So far no issues with my Supra, runs 10's in the 1/4. on e50 tune. In regular mode its quiet and can get up to 35mpg back and forth to SoCal on 91. I sold my 18 Mustang to order a C8 and glad i ended up with a Supra. I love it, though do miss the room the Mustang on those longer trips.

[@sunnyvalentino]

How is the Supra compared to your old Stang. I just sold my S550 GT and wanted to hear how this Supra steers and feels as a sports car vs the Stang

[@davepaturno4290]

C8s have had many issues. You are much better off with a GR Supra.

[@JasonZz.]

Auto review market needs long term testing. Cars these days can be extremely different from brand new test drive to 2 year usage. Do more please!

[@niclash4534]

My GT86 is serviced by Subaru. Works great but cross manufacturer development can be tricky for the user sometimes.

[@heelsin08]

Awesome that Car and Driver has Carlos. Perhaps my favorite American car presenter. I’ve always though C&D had the best written product, but video was behind. Hopefully having Carlos onboard changes that

[@dub7782]

I love the 40,000 mile idea. Keep this going!

[@TheWoebegoneJackal]

The car has been amazing for me so far, very fair review. I'd say the only issue I've had so far is that the dealership I bought it from only has one certified Supra mechanic so it's taken some juggling to actually get it properly looked at.

[@fubu45]

Take it to a bmw dealership you furry

[@a124as]

BMW Engine, transmission was the biggest failure imo. Not quite sure why they resurrect a classic with a bmw soul.

[@Shabbe02]

@@a124as Why not, BMW makes the best i6 engines. Too bad there is no manual offered at the moment.

[@Blackdawn80]

@@a124as Because Toyota doesn't care unless it's another CUV.

[@JohnSmith-wx9wj]

@@Blackdawn80 All mass market makes in a nutshell.

[@Da__goat]

I love that Toyota saw everything that was good about BMW, the interior and the engine, and put that into a sports car to their standards and it resulted in what is perhaps the single best sports car around today. Other contenders for great sports car include the Mazda Miata, the Nissan Z, the toyota/subaru BRZ-86, and the BMW Z4. And the only thing that really compares is maybe the Nissan Z, the Z4 is just a BMW branded Supra.

[@davepaturno4290]

No. According to Car & Driver magazine, the GR Supra is a superior-handling car compared to the BMW Z4. We can thank Gazoo Racing for that.

[@miguelbaeza65]

Hopefully C&D finally agrees that most of the modern car reviews are done in a video instead of a magazine. I miss Lago at Edmunds.

[@soapa4279]

Didn’t know Carlos joined C&D. Love it, he’s going to really help build this channel.

[@CarGuy11]

Wow I have the exact same car and color on my channel! Agree with everything & the wind buffeting is an easy fix.

[@larney37]

What is the fix??

[@1FastMKVSupra]

@@larney37 $150 anit-buffeting wind deflectors you adhere between the side mirrors and the A-pillar.

[@robertorodriguez2343]

Man it's so great Carlos Lago is 👍🏼here in C&D. Congrats Carlos🎉🎊

[@ElPsiCongroo]

I liked the editing, pacing, and B roll shots used in the video. It really made it comfortable and effortless to watch the video! The video was more focused on overall livability of the vehicle, but I do wish the driving impressions part was more nuanced than just fast, grippy, and slidey when you want it. How ThrottleHouse elaborates on driving dynamics is a good example.

[@CarlosLago]

You're right. Because this was the wrap-up for our 40,000-mile test, we were more focused on the ownership picture and less on the nuances of driving. You can expect that focus on forthcoming review and testing videos.

[@larryh9525]

Hey Carlos, great review. Both you and Jason are my favorite reviewers and would watch pretty much anything you guys make. LOL! As for the lack of a spare tire, I have an ND Miata, and for $5 I bought a tire plug patch kit for emergencies.

[@davepaturno4290]

My 2024 Supra came with a mini compressor and tire seal kit.

[@Stigs722]

Great video and awesome to see Carlos largos on car and driver. Very useful information here

[@leblaze5]

Thanks for making this video, it's exactly what I want to know as a prospective buyer. Really excited to get my hands on a Supra one day, living in Texas winters are thankfully very mild for us and I'm gonna enjoy this car for years.

[@KuyaArbee]

regardless though! awesome review! love that ya'll drive 40k miles in a year! would be awesome to see these type of videos for more vehicles!

[@JDawgstwothousand]

Carlos... Missed your insight, welcome back

[@hartsickdisciple]

Great video, Carlos. While it seems like a dynamically brilliant car, those are some serious caveats for ownership. The hybrid BMW-Toyota nature of the car causing service issues is unacceptable to me. This all should've been addressed by the manufacturer and dealers before launch. They needed to have figured out whether Toyota or BMW dealers would be doing 100% of the service for this car, and been prepared.

[@scottanthony3426]

That sounds like the right solution. As is, this is pathetic, especially given the price point. My guess is that since these are low volume cars, it is not a good ROI for either BMW or Toyota shops to make the extra effort to train and stock the right parts. I doubt Nissan will have that problem when the new 400Z comes out. I've read and watched plenty of reviews of the Supra, but this is the first I've seen of the service issues. Thanks to C&D for uncovering this gap.

[@lashlarue7924]

Learn how to change your own oil, Nancy. Grow a pair and learn how to be a real man. Problem solved.

[@edwint1780]

Neither of those are real issues. The wheel alignment can be done at firestone, no need to take it in to a dealer. The oil isn't special, the b58 motor uses 0w-20 mobil1 which you can buy yourself at any auto parts store and take it to the dealership with you.

[@hallisonrodrigues4259]

@@edwint1780 he mentioned that the oil filter is the problem. not everyone stocks that. i wonder if your regular ass jiffy lube would have the filter. or even better, i wonder if i can buy the filter myself and bring it to jiffy lube

[@danielcamacho1913]

@@hallisonrodrigues4259 If you know *anything* about your car, and if you like your car, you don't take it to Jiffy Lube.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

i love these 40,000 reviews of sports cars. more please!

[@jjmandasaur]

Great review! I think my only complaint generally about these reviews for Supras, and I own one mind you, is that people complain about wind buffeting. It's bad yes but it's no worse than most other sports cars. Also, it's also one of those things where if you want to hear the exhaust rev it out more and lower both windows, and I guarantee you'll hear it roar. Overall, really glad you made this review and I'm glad i made the purchase for this car.

[@jpik2003]

Im already on my 2nd GR supra. The first thing I did both times is the $10 Amazon fix for the wind buffeting. Fixed it for the most part.

[@magnetman3t725]

@@jpik2003 I did the same thing and added Carbon M Mirror caps no wind buffeting easy fix.

[@davepaturno4290]

I have coded out the fake engine noise in my 2024 Supra. The fake noise sounded like an electric generator.

[@416to212]

Really appreciate the dedication to drive 40k in a year.

[@huckfin1598]

How many times does this guys switch publications???

[@jafu745]

Good review pointing out stuff that you don't hear often.

[@Mike-dd8bd]

What draws me to the Supra is how unique is it.

[@jmos96]

Carlos you’re back and putting out the highest quality reviews again. Promise you’ll never go back to MT. They still suck!

[@Powaup]

10k miles on my Supra here. Love the car, wind buffeting car be fixed with a $10 part from Amazon and then the car is perfect

[@smithsfan425]

Another guy in the comments said it was a $150 fix

[@FixItRyan]

What was the fix?

[@Denverian]

@@FixItRyan you need to subscribe to unlock the answer

[@Powaup]

@@FixItRyan you can buy this black door guard thing off eBay and cut off the edges$8 . Or you can buy these oem looking windows diffusers for $150

[@paulm6481]

Lol hard to know where Carlos works next, but he is a star so worth following.

[@CarlosLago]

Thanks?

[@avioncamper]

@@CarlosLago You are one of the best car reviewers .

[@MisterSkizzels]

The other positive is you can dump 5k into this thing and be running 10s. They are land missiles when modified.

[@paulm6481]

Maintenance nightmares.

[@SGandGdotcom]

@@paulm6481 how much have you spent on maintenance on yours? 🤔

[@4V3N1]

Cool drag build. But idk if the worlds just gone mad but how is everyone ok with this car not offering manual as an option?

[@MisterSkizzels]

@@4V3N1 the manual is dead. Long live the manual.

[@DonBMW]

Seems like a nice little car. I have a classic BMW and it also turns heads everywhere it goes. But it has a spare, i can do, and have done all of the repair work myself. Parts are also widely available and it’s paid off. Win win win and win!

[@joec1774]

Really well done, informative, and honest video on the pros and cons of (what I consider to be) an everyday supercar. Easily some of the best content from C/D. Keep it comin!

[@Uncrowned_King_Benz]

It’s considered a super car?

[@blueberrycobbler]

@@Uncrowned_King_Benz I like the Supra, but that is a huge stretch calling it a supercar.

[@Uncrowned_King_Benz]

@@blueberrycobbler I think it’s in the gray area since Supra been killing a lot of supercars but still consider it a regular sport car.

[@Tmoua]

The fix for wind buffeting is an easy fix. Nearly 20 dollars and some crafty work. The oil change can be done by yourself with a pair of jacks a basic tool set and 0w20/oil filter. The alignment can be done by alignment shops such as Firestone, precision auto, and basically any rear wheel drive vehicle if not heavier than a truck does horrid in snow.

[@Troubleshooter125]

I own a 2016 Ford Mustang GT Premium, which I've driven year-round from the get-go. Granted that the Supra will run away from my Mustang pretty easily, but in winter, with Michelin XIce XI-3s mounted, I have had ZERO PROBLEM in the snow ... and this is Cleveland, Ohio. After six years, I still get stares and compliments on it, it still goes like stink, and the V8 soundtrack is just flat EXCELLENT. I lusted after Supras back in the 80s, but now, with a price point well over $50,000 for the six, I have no qualms about sticking with my Mustang.

[@RingerRacing]

when i lived in cleveland i had dunlop winter tires on my porsche, it was amazing in the snow and better than a front driver on all seasons

[@chaumander9378]

Mustang GT is one of the best value for your money. Supra is up there as well.

[@CarPassionChannel]

For $50-$150, depending on the material Used you, you can get rid of that wind buffeting. Multiple companies make the little inserts that go next to the side of view mirror.

[@romanovmarkelyon1021]

Nice in depth review. I think it’s beautiful and objectively an excellent sports car. But I will die on the hill that Toyota should have developed their own car with a manual transmission option. Would have been a perfect legacy icon to their age of ICE performance cars.

[@sebmanole]

Manual is supposedly coming by the end of the year. However we don’t know if it’s going to be a BMW gearbox, or if Toyota built its own.

[@AQ-101]

@@sebmanole I don't really care at all if it turns out to be a BMW manual, I just want a manual in the Supra.

[@sebmanole]

@@AQ-101 same, same...

[@joshm3484]

A great car. I don't care that it's a rebranded BMW, and I'm not sure why anyone would see that as a negative. But what I keep coming back to, is the Z. The Supra is slightly more expensive, slightly less powerful, slightly heavier, slightly less cargo space...and no manual right now. It's truly a great car, but in my opinion is just slightly _less_ great than the Z in every way that I care about.

[@steveo8424]

More. More Carlos. More videos. More more more.

[@CarlosLago]

Keep watching!

[@jpadicecoffee9812]

Carlos, thanks for doing the video in the cold snow. I need 3 weeks off to do a cross country road trip in my E46.

[@jonathanclark8878]

So, besides having a set of aftermarket wheels sitting in your garage in case you get a flat tire. Is there a spare (doughnut) tire we can buy from another car that would fit the Supra wheelbase?

[@HMNGnTHEhouse]

Looks amazing in person also! I love my 2021 3.0 premium ❤️

[@dangrass]

Lago is great. There are so many incompetent moto journalists out there, so Lago is truly a breath of fresh air. I only wish Toyota hadn't bought the running gear from BMW. While I would expect a Toyota inline 6 to last forever, I simply don't have that expectation of something made by BMW. If I were to buy one of these things (which I'm not) I'd probably lease it and give it back after 4 years.

[@CarlosLago]

🙏

[@huckfin1598]

He’ll be somewhere else by next year

[@Kakeyoro]

Oh wait, Carlos works here now? I have subscribed.

[@taco1273]

Helpful information. Especially the spare tire and part issues. Appears a great option is the new corvette and hopefully the new Z will be available soon.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

40,000 mile review of Civic Si, Type R, BRZ/GR86, GR Corolla, Nissan Z, Elantra N/N-Line, and WRX please.

[@ronniejaye1]

The buffeting is definitely inherited from Toyota. My Venza and my Scion TC both were so brutal they would pop your eardrums.

[@chrisbeaudoin9818]

My frs had next to no buffeting. I actually miss being able to drive around the city with my windows down

[@Supercruze]

Good honest long term evaluation. Nicely done C&D.

[@nicholasfield6127]

Sounds like Toyota should have a small network of Toyota dealerships that could service the Supra and give the owners a list of them.

[@Carlos.Rivera]

You could service it at BMW dealership

[@nicholasfield6127]

@@Carlos.Rivera He says in the video that they tried that and they couldn't service it.

[@steelscout1]

Great video. It was very informative and just the right length. I wish I would have seen this before purchasing the car, it would have given me some things to consider.

[@arjbrown]

Any regrets? What were you suprised by?

[@gigi9467]

Damn! Carlos left cali to go to michigan? I hope they are paying him enough to deal with that awful weather..

[@esteemedenergy]

I am looking for a weekend car that I can drive daily if needed and this car is now at the top of my list. The BMW B58 engine is legendary and bulletproof, and I love that ZF transmission.

[@davepaturno4290]

My 2024 GR Supra 45th Anniv has a diff leak after 700 miles. The Supra tech said it is a shaft seal leak. Tools and parts will take one month to arrive. I suggest you check yours, periodically.

[@dnice362]

I like this car my problem is the price this is as much as a gt350 and SS1le that’s tough

[@1FastMKVSupra]

Different car class, they compete on price but one is a 2 seater, no back seat, smaller, lighter, true sports car and the others are 2+2 muscle cars....it's not really apples to apples IMO. They get cross-shopped often though. I'd put this and the new Z in the same class though...

[@OviWanKeno9i]

I found that the Pirelli Sottozero (not these v2) were some of the worst winter tires I've had, outside of budget brands in high school. I had them on a 500hp Bilstein suspension Audi A6 and a protuned 480 hp WRX STI. They're firm but grip really suffers (it's mid) and had two issues with sidewall bulges. To my surprise a ton of people on forums also had the same experience. The Michelin Alpin are much better for sporty feel, with decent grip, and the Nokyan Hakkapeliitta R2s were above all else by so far. It was an insane difference, especially in grip! They make more road noise but they're soooo grippy and softer but still give you great handling. The sidewall only gives a little bit, but just enough. I know there's an R3 out now. I literally ran winter rallycross on the Subie on those tires and got amazing times. I drove the Audi on R2s across Canada in December (5000 kms) and it was amazing! Don't waste your money on the Pirelli imo. The Super Sports are amazing. They wear out fast but they're so amazing. I haven't even tried the 4S ones yet. I get mine from dealerships where the customer changes rims on a car and the dealer can't sell the wheels and tires as new anymore. I pay like half the price on the tires like that.

[@matte8441]

I work as a Toyota mechanic in Canada and recently had to road test one because the customer hit a curb. It had cheap Westlake winter tires on it and it did surprisingly ok. It’s weird that the dealers there don’t proper equipment, our dealer has a stash of oil/filters (I actually use that oil for my VW Golf) and alignment tools.

[@attentiondeficitsquirrel7660]

You drove it on snow? I’m asking because I want one and I live in Pennsylvania. We go years sometimes without seeing a lot of snow but when it rains it pours (so to speak). It did ok? How much snow?

[@faultless18]

How’s the reliability of the Supra and what do you think about the new Prius?

[@pompano_jedi172]

A turbo 3.0 6 cylinder with over 30mpg is impressive

[@AgonxOC]

BMW’s magic. My N55 (previous generation I6T) returns me 34-35 MPG on long drive routinely and the car has 180K miles.

[@tominator23]

Forgot to mention biggest downside. No manual transmission. Come on C&D. You all are the #savethemanuals people!

[@WhatSaab]

Saw a Supra driving in the snow right after the roads were plowed and it was shredding it!

[@DC5Brandon]

Good advice for potential buyers. Can't the wind buffeting be fixed by modifying the mirrors? Otherwise it's a BMW which weighs 300 lbs less than an M2 with similar power and looks better IMO. Just disregard that it's called a Supra.

[@Sarcastic_Asmodeus]

@@pistolfied both of you are right.

[@CPTSwoopty]

I've got 65,000 on mine, a fantastic GT car.

[@bcvijasiu]

Very good video. It is nice to see that there were no typical BMW issues. I am still debating, this or nee IS500 or used LC500 or just wait to see if Toyota makes the GRNM with S58. 🤷‍♂️.

[@weebsary9846]

I have the 2020 supra...lc500 is next to get on my list. I thought about the is500 but my daily is an is350.

[@BigMack392]

BMW . . . Bring My Wallet . . . will this car endure and still run reliably at 100k miles?

[@bcvijasiu]

@@BigMack392 I made a decision. IS500 is on its way 😀.

[@DJAdo80]

Before watching smoking tire and motorweek, I used to love Carlos’s reviews. Good looking dude and enjoy his reviews. Welcome back to the mainstream sir

[@NafaratMiyaMiya]

It took Toyota to finally make a BMW reliable haha ... great review Carlos!

[@fubu45]

Ahhh a typical comment from a “I’ve never owned a bmw in my life” person.

[@mr.c3939]

Way to show you have no idea what you're talking about. Great work!

[@jamesesposito3581]

Service is a pain in the ass on these. I have ONE tech at Toyota who can work on my car , and we set up 2 weeks in advance for parts .... The wind noise, well i went to AMS and got the wing mirror plates. They are almost impossible to notice, and fixed the wind noise 100%! Thank God .

[@davepaturno4290]

My local Toyota dealership has two techs and most maintenance parts are readily available. I'll be getting my first oil change after one year, soon. (With about 4000 miles on the odometer)

[@thnktank1]

I can't wait to hear about reliability

[@Twobarpsi]

It's a BMW, so it's not going to be good news.

[@ThatRosco458]

"It was as reliable in our hands as a Toyota Camry"

[@smithsfan425]

@@ThatRosco458 when it creeps up to the 100k mark is where the real fun begins

[@1FastMKVSupra]

Reliability is an output of routine maintenance being done as specified. Many folks don't follow maintenance schedule, then they get issues. I wouldn't expect toyota dependability out of this but at the same time, the German makes are generally good if you are good about maintenance.

[@Redball2Portofino]

Carlos’ video he did on the Challenger about a decade ago introduced me to the best pie in the world!

[@PS-mq4ty]

As a 1 yr MKV owner, all these downsides can be fixed by simple mods or a reliable mechanic. Put $20k into it, and it will be a track weapon. It’s a sports car, not a SUV. Just need to know what you’re looking for.

[@RCXDerp]

How does it feel that a manual is coming for the i6?

[@PS-mq4ty]

@@RCXDerp It's not confirmed yet but definitely a great news for the community.

[@blackcatsarenopussies]

Why not getting a M3 instead if going to spend 20k more? Or a 335i at least?

[@PS-mq4ty]

@@blackcatsarenopussies Cause M3 or 335i is heavier. I want to build a track car so weight is essential.

[@powamoto]

Carlos great job love your editing 🤟👍💥💥👊✌👀💫🔥🦾🦾🦾🙏☝🤯