2020 Toyota Supra Review | Judgement Day

[@savagegeese]

I believe I said it was twin turbo, just ignore that because my head was in my ass.

[@JohnBrowningsGhost]

Rad

[@danielkinsley1111]

I just want a Mk3 supra turbo, you should review one of those haha

[@centripetal25]

I forgive you. As long as you save some room for me.

[@stuna101a]

This Supra is a BMW 135i N55 that costs 6 times as much. If you get MSRP

[@BarnStangz]

I just kept hearing farts in the opening of the video are you sure it doesn't have twin turbo?

[@thomastran9713]

Hands down still the best car reviewer out there. I bought a RCF because of savagegeese

[@qx4n9e1xp]

Lol, I'm gonna buy whatever I want despite SavageGeese. I'm stubborn and go against his recommendations, probably because I want to experience for myself what my choice brings.

[@owenreid104]

Thomas Tran how are you enjoying it?

[@KLRGT500KR]

Agreed. I have an RCF with carbon/TVD in Molten Pearl and Savage Geese' review was the only honest and properly detailed review that swayed my decision.

[@CapELarry]

qxANGELxp So how is that Ford Ranger treating you?

[@KLRGT500KR]

@@McBeakerson Who Savage Geese? No, he is an enthusiast who races on the track. He has owned E92 M3, S2000 etc. and tracked them. He absolutely hated the ISF. He is not a Toyota fanboi at all. He has very high level of technical knowledge about chassis, suspension, engines etc. He talks objectively rather than subjectively.

[@sdlausen1]

Every other car review channel -- *"It's just a BMW. It's hard to get in and out. Fake sounds in cabin. It's just a BMW. It's unreliable. IT DOESN'T LOOK like the concept! It's just a Z4" etc. etc.* This channel actually explains to you why the businesses decision was made with BMW and the engineering factor behind each and every aspect of the car instead of leaving it as an open ended personal complaint. I hate how other channels do that!!! Best review channel PERIOD.

[@enigmaPL]

"It's just a BMW. It's hard to get in and out. Fake sounds in cabin. It's just a BMW. It's unreliable. IT DOESN'T LOOK like the concept! It's just a Z4" Is all 100% true. So I don't see the issue. Toyota lied to fans and enthusiasts about 'partnering' with BMW to lower costs, and lied how the development was separate, when it really wasn't. Toyota is the second largest automotive company next to the VW group... They could easily afford to make their own car... they could've even sold it at a loss and subsidized the costs across multiple years of sales to break even and into profit without denting their company wallet. They chose not to. They didn't care enough about it. It was a last-ditch attempt at silencing everyone wanting a new Supra, without caring enough to make one, just to make a quick buck. This deserves to be criticized forever, and NEVER forgotten.

[@sdlausen1]

@@enigmaPL Sorry to tell you but... your comment clearly dictates why you're not an automotive executive. Your idea really makes no business sense. Why would a company sell a mid level sports car or any product for that matter at a loss? The only time a company would ever sell a product at a loss is a halo product. This product is used as a marketing tool and offers a trickle down effect etc. Also, when did Toyota lie? Proof? There is no mass market for sports cars anymore and partnering with BMW was the ONLY way for Toyota to justify the cost in producing the Supra. Economies of scale allowed BMW and Toyota to make the Supra affordable as well. If developed in house, it would easily have cost around the same price as a Lexus LC500 due to having to spend the R&D on a whole new inline 6, transmission, chassis etc. -- pointless really. At that point, you would cry why it's so expensive. Instead of being happy Toyota is even bringing out a sports car nobody will buy, you complain. Typical internet keyboard warrior. If you really want a next gen Supra a kin to the MKIV developed in house, that's what the LC500 is for. Like the MKIV, it's a big GT that is 100% Toyota.

[@enigmaPL]

@@sdlausen1 And yet, there are more sports cars on the market today than there have been in the past decade, all doing well. Manufacturers making the best of the best iconic models, selling well and providing great marketing just by creating a damn good product. How is it everyone else can manage it, but the second largest automotive company in the world, cannot? They took an iconic name, for the flagship model of the company, and put it on another manufacturers mid-tier car, to call their own. It's absolutely pathetic, and just as pathetic is defending that practice of corporate greed and short term profits above all else. As for 'proof of Toyota lying'.... I hope you're joking.... If not... Just look over all the marketing bullshit they spewed, then see for yourself how much of it was true, and convince yourself. Because something that blatant cannot be explained.

[@sdlausen1]

@The Norm Macdonald Show I guess you magically want Toyota to make money on a car nobody will buy. You also want to spend $100k on a Supra that nobody would buy. Why don't you just by an LC500? I'm no fan of the BMW/Toyota collaboration on the Supra, but it was the only way Toyota could financially justify producing it.

[@sdlausen1]

@The Norm Macdonald Show You make no sense. If you think Toyota made the Supra to make a "profit" out of a low volume 2 door niche sports car, you're smoking crack cocaine. You clearly have no business sense or understanding of it. I guess you just rather not even have a Supra at all. Like I said, want a modern day Supra, BUY A Lexus LC500! It's a big GT car like the MKIV

[@jimmycameyify]

Haven't seen any reviewers that actually lift the car and go over the underbelly as well. Very cool idea.

[@Sedona_FD3S]

Jimmy Camey savagegeese is easily the best car reviewer

[@thisisntsergio1352]

@@Sedona_FD3S He's the only reviewer that I know that lifts the car. My other favorites are RedLine Reviews and Alex on Autos because they pack in so much information in ~20 minutes each episode (even though they don't lift it). I love SavageGeese as well. For example, during SavageGeese's Durango review, he said "if you dick around with the handle a bit, the back seats will fold down" and I died laughing. I love how vulgar he can be. Also his intros are always beautiful, especially this review. He shows the car in 3 or 4 different scenes. So good.

[@thisisntsergio1352]

@@chadhaire1711 Prove it.

[@thisisntsergio1352]

@@chadhaire1711 says right here that it pipes fake engine noise into the cabin. You must not be so good at your job. See? I can be condescending, too. www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a29829552/2020-toyota-supra-sounds-fantastic-with-this-aftermarket-exhaust/ Also here's a video of a man deactivating the fake engine noise. There's a before and after clip in it as well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2bHmmpqbJKKeaM

[@taylorc2542]

It's quite amazing that one guy can make the world's best car reviews while putting to shame Motortrend's videos with a half dozen writers, editors, and camera crew. Good bye legacy media!

[@SeeWorldKevin]

Jack fits perfectly within this review setting. Knowledgeable, concise, and even delivery without being boring. 2 relaxing voices to chill out with and hear some sound, objective conclusions.

[@superharold100]

Yes we do care about fake engine noise!

[@MaxSpeedMike]

You can probably remove it like in most cars

[@superharold100]

@@MaxSpeedMike yeah I was hoping he would say that in the review and show the switch

[@MaxSpeedMike]

@@superharold100 i'll be sure to show it when i review the a90 lol. I loved this review regardless. Very different, and honest perspective on the car compares to the other ones.

[@MozzaBurger88]

Yeah and that fake sound is hideous too.

[@CSV1973]

reviewers may not like it, but buyers do.. else they wouldn’t do it

[@jakobholgersson4400]

From what I've read, Toyota DIDN'T approve of the engine initially and forced BMW to make over a hundred changes.

[@lancerichardson8023]

saw the same thing, I was wondering if BMW made these changes in their engines or only the Toyotas got the improved engine.

[@pascutia]

Lance Richardson Where did you guys read this? I’m super interested to see what changes they made!

[@burntavocado5033]

@@pascutiame too! Once they become 20k I'll buy one without a doubt

[@nedschneebly4829]

@@lancerichardson8023 Unless the changes were so drastic they essentially make it a whole other engine, it would be cheaper for them to mass produce one design so it's probably for all of them.

[@BMWROYAL]

Jakob Holgersson this engine is almost identical to the b58 that been in other bmws for years

[@andoscarsaid]

Finally it’s here. 🙌🏽. Savage is his name. Geeze is his game.

[@vlad1889]

If the geese gives consent it's a fair game...lol

[@dylandetails361]

This is one of those cars that I have no desire to own, yet I still have a poster of one in my cubicle. Yeah, I can't explain it either.

[@carlosandleon]

cubicle. . . such a sad life

[@dylandetails361]

@@carlosandleon meh, I'm young and have a great work life balance. Can't complain

[@kendall9758]

Wow you busy articulated my feeling and emotions of this car. Tyvm

[@turbodarkle]

It's just a stunning car and you can still appreciate the charm of it even though some people have their qualms with it's development

[@Milkman69ner]

I get this. It’s because the one you want has a manual. Which as of yet, doesn’t exist

[@kelceyk8199]

All the aluminum BMW components give me flash backs to the thousands of bent suspension components under normal driving.

[@Rydrdg]

I remember one person in a video bent his control arm when this car a few month back.

[@Persocondes]

lol tesla too but even worse than bent, their lower control arm would just crack and dislocate completely off

[@Mrbfgray]

Never heard of any bent suspension parts on BMWs short of an accident.

[@Mrbfgray]

@Richard Favreau Or just get a truck. I have similar wheels for yr.s but I have a long time habit of steering around potholes, curbs, landmines and such.

[@Mrbfgray]

@Richard Favreau My area roads aren't all fine but they are not quite 3rd world either and I have personal vehicle controls in use FULL TIME when driving, I don't text, talk, look at a phone or even play the damn tunes a lot. I DRIVE when I'm driving a sports car especially. That's not your thing tho?....maybe a sporty car is not your style. Hardly an insult just an observation.

[@Halifauxer]

Savage Geese Review - The only review that truly matters to me.

[@ubermagoo]

So many excuses from Toyota: first the vents were removable for racing, now they are homage to the racing variant. Latest excuse: "We didnt make any money off our older sportscars", yet Toyota is still one of the most profitable car companies in the world, and they especially were in the 90s, at their sports car peak. Toyota has developed a loyal fanbase because of their reliability and leading engineering, it is what guides purchases from my generation today. If they want to sacrifice that for the near term profits/risk, that is short sighted and ultimately they will lose customers.

[@n.d.4317]

It's still a low production car that while can be slightly profitable the margin is extremely small. It serves more as a halo car to attack new customers or to make the brand more interesting. The video was misleading on a little detail, the engine was co-developed. We will see for reliability but I'm sure it will pass the toyota mark

[@tylerissla7139]

@@n.d.4317 Cant use that excuse. It's not at all low production if the average BMW dealership has no less that 5 Z4s sitting out on the lot, getting rained on. The Supra has 100 percent mechanical parts commonality with everything but piston heads, ecu and switchgear. Switchgear is from the old 3 series and looks like garbage. So, no. It's a slightly different BMW. Not at all low production.

[@anonjohnnyG]

yeah they literally invented lean manufacturing.

[@cduncan5690]

@@n.d.4317 Saying this engine was "co-developed" is like saying that I co-developed an engine with a manufacturer because I took and engine and modified a few components to suit my taste i.e. I co-developed a new engine with Toyota when I put a new cold air intake on my corolla engine.

[@n.d.4317]

@@cduncan5690 You should get more and better information.

[@sweatpantsclub]

When Jack popped into that car, it actually startled me. The cut was like he magically appeared! 😂 8:26

[@Seminoles2011]

Bought one 3 weeks ago. Love it! Exactly what I desired! Fast when needed. Could care less about the auto trans.Thumbs up from so many folks I go by. No regrets!

[@alexiep2422]

I got mine in September. I LOVE IT. The ladies love it too LOL. It’s such a good car. I’m glad we got ours ! How much you wanna bet that after the production runs out, everyone will want one lol.

[@ejkk9513]

@@alexiep2422 When the production runs out everyone will want to sell theres... as a mechanic who despises current AWFUL BMW design. I can safely say it will start falling to pieces in less then 10 years. Don't let the Toyota badge fool you... this is 100% a BMW through and through. No true DRIVERS cars are automatic. Unfortunately, almost all current sports/super cars are made for posers who can't or won't be bothered to actually... you know... drive the car!

[@stevesamuel263]

@@ejkk9513 You can speak for yourself, but plenty of people enjoy and prefer "Driver's Cars" in automatic. Don't go thinking you are the final word on what an enjoyable car entails. The driving experience is about the whole car, the transmission is only a piece of that.

[@theworldlaughswithyou]

Great review as always. Honestly im looking forward to pick one up. To me its the perfect car minus no manual. Toyota exterior design with BMW powerplant. Looks even better in person

[@niklassundgren5993]

Love how the hood closes without any rattling noises.

[@lexus_offroad_adventures]

The only judgement that matters. The savage, goose-like judgement.

[@gaivoron]

Usually BMW have good engines, but everything around them falls apart after 4 years.

[@carboydorifutoparty3976]

Well I still see people rolling arond in 240i and 440is still ever since they came out so this may not he as bad.

[@bocahdongo7769]

The electronic one, not the engine Surprisingly BMW engine (espescially most of I6) is so durable, the electronic fall apart before the engine burning oil like a mad

[@nlouisf]

True

[@bestvidsdottk]

Yeah except VANOS and bearings...

[@medogabr9952]

Carboy Dorifuto party they came out two years ago

[@lkajiess]

Papadakis is the man. I love watching people that are so knowledgable and still enthusiastic about what they're doing. Great, humble educator.

[@buzzyinurface]

You guys do such a good job reviewing cars for potential buyers! Thank you, this is essential information I need

[@qx4n9e1xp]

I want an M2 or a 1M. The Supra actually looks pretty great. Never cared for the 90s one, never cared for the hype for this one, but this car definitely looks great. They did a good job modernizing it. I prefer visibility and a spacey interiors though, so I wouldn't own a Supra. Always BMWs or old Hondas for me.

[@vinniecorleone62]

Your car profiles are the very best & frankly the only ones I get excited to tune into, thanks for a quality look at cars with a broad scope!

[@OuzoLouGarage]

What up?

[@HiBunnyGames]

this is the best review of supra so far. very detailed.

[@E38vip]

Very true

[@99SVTBolt]

Tiffany Chen SavageGeese is one of the best that no one has heard of.

[@ChristianC-gy1ym]

Tiffany Chen, serious question. Are you buying a new Supra? I just can't see myself driving one..

[@HiBunnyGames]

웅이 i don't think i will. i have nissan 370z.

[@ChristianC-gy1ym]

@@HiBunnyGames 370z? Nice. Me neither. I'd rather have a Mustang than this Supra.

[@tabes10]

Your reviews are so detailed and intense, love it and keep it up.

[@alexiep2422]

Best reviewer out there. I bought my Supra last year in September because of you guys and this review & honestly, I LOVE my Supra. It’s so good at everything it does. The “ wow “ factor is all there. Always getting thumbs up and people taking pictures of it.

[@kamikaziblack]

Except when you try to drive with the windows down

[@alexiep2422]

@@kamikaziblack $8.99 Amazon fix my guy.

[@masmcg]

Toyota: This is the only way to make it affordable. GM: Hold my beer....... we built the entire car. behold the 2020 Corvette.

[@teggsrb18c1]

masmcg Toyota is run by bean counters and quarterly gross profit margins. Sad really, used to be some real great engineering that came from that company.

[@Nemoticon]

Toyota: We meant affordable, reliable AND good. GM: Erm............. can I have my beer back now?

[@lynxis]

GM has economies of scale on their side and they already make their own sports cars, neither of which are something Toyota is in a position to leverage. The C7 Corvette US sales alone match worldwide sales numbers of the FRS/BRZ/86 combined, despite being significantly more expensive. GM also already has the tooling and space to facilitate the new Corvette by converting the old one where Toyota would have to either massively expand operations (expensive and would push any vehicle with the performance envelope they were looking for beyond a reasonable price point) or axe an existing, profitable product line, to make the tooling and space available for a product that would likely be less profitable. Rather than take risks like that, Toyota chose to leverage existing manufacturers and product branding to make a sports car with the Toyota name a reality.

[@SiddharthJaggavarapu]

@@Nemoticon reliable with a BMW engine? We will see about that.

[@ZZZRaven65]

@@lynxis Yet Mazda, which is literally one TENTH the size of Toyota in terms of revenue, can build a dedicated sports car platform all by themselves that isn't shared with any of their other vehicles (Miata). Yes, Fiat gave them a suitcase full of money to borrow it for the 124 Spyder, but even if you make that argument, Mazda and Fiat COMBINED are still MUCH smaller than Toyota. Toyota absolutely COULD have easily afforded to build this car themselves, but they didn't have the nerve. They should be EMBARRASSED that their halo car is designed and built by BMW. It's inexcusable. That said, I'm glad the BMW Supra and Z4 exist. I still won't consider buying one until they've been out long enough to have a proven good reliability record (which I'm VERY skeptical of, because... BMW) and until they put a manual transmission in it. That is the ultimate deal breaker for me - and most true driving enthusiasts.

[@justpassnthru]

Synthesized engine noise without the ability to turn it off? That's a deal breaker in my book.

[@gwot]

unplug the speakers, good to go

[@yeesenchai]

Small issue, lots of aftermarket for that

[@Gchang54]

Petty

[@justpassnthru]

@@Gchang54 Petty? In a world where you can configure every thing from shock damping rates to interior ambient lighting color how can the simple ability to turn off fake engine noises be considered petty?

[@Gchang54]

@@justpassnthru if that's a dealbreaker for you, in my opinion, that's a petty reason. I'm sure there will be a cheap aftermarket solution to solve that "problem"

[@nigel_white]

I was a through-and-through Japanese car guy my whole driving life. I've owned a 1973 Datsun 240Z for the past 30 years, and all my daily drivers have been Japanese. As a teenager in the 80's, American cars were the epitome of lazy engineering that just couldn't compete with the Japanese. But when I recently had the means to buy another fun car, I ended up with a 2018 Camaro SS 1LE, and I couldn't be happier. The performance for dollar value is leaps and bounds better than anything the Japanese offer, and not just straight line performance. The 1LE is one of the best handling cars our there. And it does all this with a level of sophistication that I'd never expect from a car at this price point... magnetic ride suspension, electronics limited slip differential, rev matching, 5 levels of performance traction control, Android Auto/Apple Carplay, etc. Plus, as an added bonus, at 6'7" tall, I can actually fit in it with a helmet on! So, when the Supra came out at ~$10,000 more and yet was slower, had less room (ironic that I can fit in my nearly 50 year old 240Z but not this), and fewer features, I had zero regrets about not waiting.

[@Maelstrom8]

@ Nigel White Interesting to hear you describe your experience as a Japanese car guy. I have been the same for my entire adult life. Now, I am looking for a fun weekend car and I am considering a Mustang GT. I rented one on vacation and was thoroughly impressed by how far American cars have come. Like you said, performance per dollar ratio is through the roof. Additionally, a lot of the American sports cars still offer a manual option as they should. Glad you are enjoying the Camaro. I hope my Stang is just as rewarding.

[@jsquared1013]

And you bought one before they uglified the nose! 😁

[@mr.selfdestruct]

@@Maelstrom8 "My Stang" people actaully say that?

[@PazLeBon]

lmfao

[@seabee9135]

DUDE!! you killed it with that killer intro! Subbed just because of that.... you didn’t actually put that together did you?.. From the soundtrack, camera pan angles, backdrop, natural lighting effects, reflections on the car, and synchronization audio and video. JUST WOW!!

[@savagegeese]

Most was shot by Jack and assembled by Goose.

[@seabee9135]

savagegeese kudos for that post production work!

[@jerroljulian]

Savagegeese makes some of the best quality car videos on KZbin. In terms of execution, the quality of the video, audio, B roll, etc, everything is tightened well done. You can tell their passionate about what they do.

[@ThaMagnaCarta]

those fart shifts are worse that eric swallwells #fartgate

[@lethalpenguin61]

OnDay 7 *than

[@lexus_offroad_adventures]

My favorite news story of the last few months ☠️

[@iliovecaRS]

Don’t notice them

[@NatoriousGamePlay]

@fabaum22 they are functional. There's videos explaining dct farts. Just doesn't sound that great

[@MatrixDiscovery]

I agree. It sounds feminine. Not manly at all.

[@blupra]

This was an excellent video and review. I have had my Supra for a little over a month now and I agree with pretty much everything you said.

[@beekaye1496]

My 50 birthday present next year. Looking forward to it

[@Mr.Thermistor7228]

did you get it??

[@beekaye1496]

No, i got a Lexus gsf

[@elusivellama]

Good choice, now that the GS is gone :( However, long live the IS500!

[@PatrickHenryLibertyorDeath]

You made the right decision. BMW s are garbage.

[@CadexLaw]

@@PatrickHenryLibertyorDeath let me guess your friend of a friend of a friend had a bad experience so they’re all garbage, am I right?

[@rafaelsilvestre9451]

This is the best car review channel I've come across, honest, to the point and great video quality. great shots. will be following these guys for a hwile.

[@evanwheeler7687]

Fantastic editing on this video. The beginning shots mixed in with the engine noise were really cool. Also, Jack adds a lot of useful comparison info. Great vid.

[@cadsux]

Having owned 4 Japanese coupes and 2 American coupes (currently a Mustang GT), I would consider this.

[@iyzyz]

Ok thanks for letting us know.

[@Wolf_Larsen]

Good to know, buddy.

[@cadsux]

You're welcome. Btw, I was responding to our hosts' remark about how Camaro & Mustang fans wouldn't go for the Supra.

[@ZZZRaven65]

So, what's your experience with German coupes? ...because that's what this is.

[@cadsux]

@@ZZZRaven65 I have yet to own one, but I have friends who own German coupes and I have attended some BMW Drive Events. Still considering...

[@ShaiyanHossain]

This is definitely one of this year's cars

[@Jstn150cc]

Corvette C8 : Are you sure about that?

[@armands3153]

@@Jstn150cc 'ONE OF'

[@mk1rabbithole]

ah yes, the car is made of car...2019 car.

[@owenreid104]

the rAbb1t hole I think... it was a joke lol

[@JeepCherokeeful]

Was!

[@dewainet543]

Ya lost me at no manual transmission and bmw :(

[@enigmaPL]

@@ELECTRICEYEMEDIA Too stupid to know what a false equivalency is, eh? Dumbass Gen Z'ers will be the death of humanity.

[@jasonhudson8336]

Nobody makes manuals anymore get over it guess you could buy an STI

[@Gorilla_Jones]

@@jasonhudson8336 Nah, shaddup.

[@Mr.Thermistor7228]

lmaoo

[@GothRocker7]

Great honest review, I agree with your talking points, I personally wish it was 100 Percent Toyota designed and engineered, I really find it hard to believe with the amount of money and capital Toyota has, that they couldn't do this on their own. Look at Mazda, they are small compared to Toyota, yet look at all the engineering and design that they do !!!! Really enjoy your channel, I like you are honest and do real world reviews. p.s. Love when the car is on the lift and really get to see what is going on.

[@NemoTheBeastGamer]

Best review I’ve seen, you know it’s legit when they start with the car on a lift.

[@UnitiveWILLIAM24]

Aren't these cars already recalled for pretty major frame issues?

[@Pumpkinfish12]

Where's the outro? I need to be shown how to get rid of SavageGeese!

[@kingpeasant5099]

This is the man you're leaving me for? Very well.

[@realkarfixer8208]

I wanna know how to get the Jungle Power!

[@realkarfixer8208]

It's getting hot out there...

[@taishou94]

You think you're straight?

[@midnighteightsix6919]

@@taishou94 I'm cranking it all night

[@Stone2799]

Wish it was called the GRS or FT1 and not the supra but the looks have definitely grown on me.

[@jessejipo]

I was thinking Celica

[@Nemoticon]

You're focusing on entirely the wrong bit, lol.... the name is irrelevant, what is important is if it is a good car or not.

[@ZZZRaven65]

I wish it was designed and built in Japan by TOYOTA. If I ever want to buy a BMW (I won't), I'll buy a BMW,

[@Stone2799]

@@Nemoticon Yeah that is the most important thing but car names should car some weight with regard to their history. Imagine if Chevrolet had tried to pass off an NSX as the new corvette.

[@K03sport]

... Wait until the mustang mach-e... Oh, wait...too late

[@SSW9133]

One of the best car reviews I've seen in a long time. Much kudos.

[@Abz1324]

Great review, superb editing and fantastic balanced conversation. Enjoyed that.

[@markblaney1428]

I do like the the thoroughness of the review. However, canned engine noise, poser aero parts and a ridiculous price tag at 60k plus means this car would be a solid pass in my books.

[@noobasdfjkl]

Pretty much every sports car has engine noise piped into the cabin anymore, and it's only gonna get more prevalent. I really don't get how $60K is a ridiculous price tag. You're getting a car that's, for the 2021 model year, making about 440bhp, last year's model was 1 second off of the M4's time at VIR and faster than the M2, it's got a version of iDrive that's better than the newest version, and it's more comfortable enough to live with everyday than any of the American sports cars. This car is like if you were gonna buy an M240i, but you don't need the seats, and you wanna go faster.

[@basithph8958]

It’s good that Toyota has the aftermarket scene in mind for the GR Supra Shows how much potential the car has

[@FilthyFauci]

I feel like they are trying to push owners to modding it. This way if that BMW engine starts acting up, Toyota doesn't have to deal with it.

[@SteveOnlin]

@@FilthyFauci sshut the fuck up

[@fjaajf]

The A90, in general, is a great car. But comparing it to my BRZ, I feel that I made the right choice.

[@someguy793]

I feel like the Supra is just a premium af brz/86. I mean that in a good way.

[@kingpeasant5099]

They're not even in the same stratosphere.

[@DarthVader-1701]

The BRZ has better appeal, it's a Subaru version of the 240Z or NA FD RX-7.

[@someguy793]

@@DarthVader-1701 I can see the appeal in both badges. Car is 98% the same, just a matter of taste imo. so many ppl in the past have asked me if the 86 is a Celica or a Supra though (pre-new supra) When I think Subaru I always think AWD & UEL headers. Toyota I associate more with RWD and Coupes. I love both brands, so I'd be happy rocking either badge :)

[@fastec5]

If you bought a BRZ it's probably because you couldnt afford a Supra lol

[@TheBanjoShowOfficial]

I mean literally the best, most unbiased, most thorough reviewer I have ever seen for anything ever. I'm genuinely amazed at the quality and thoroughness of these videos compared with other reviewers out there with even 8 times the amount of subscribers. I have a great respect for you guys.

[@Auto_Funk]

Best A90 review on YT!! Thanks for the excellent content!

[@MannyOrtiz]

Cinematic as hell. Love it

[@GT-RTData9]

Didn't expect to see you here.

[@dragospahontu]

@@GT-RTData9 ye

[@alchemist2048]

Everyone hates it yet keeps an eye out for it time by. time. This supra is hiding something. Y'all sensing it

[@burntavocado5033]

I miss Scott turboski:/ hope everything is alright with him

[@maxxweber4336]

Jack has replaced him.

[@christopherrabaldo3377]

Yeah. It sucks.

[@thisisntsergio1352]

Miss his attitude

[@MelvinKhosa]

Jack sucks. Turbowski was funny.

[@thisisntsergio1352]

@@MelvinKhosa Jack is cool. Wish we had more of him and turbowski

[@furioustacos]

You really go into a great degree of depth in your reviews. Lots of nuance. Congrats, you've earned this sub. Looking forward to more of your content.

[@bropocalypse2065]

I enjoy the depth of details in your videos and lack of cheesy BS.

[@markjmaxwell9819]

My personal opinion is they hit it out of the park. No manual option is a downer but in all other ways a big winner. "OH WHAT A FEELING" Toyota Bmw. Good job.

[@Affalterbach1967]

Japan2020: to save money, let's move manufacturing to Austria.

[@inspectorchicken]

Or, you know, merge two cars at one facility to save money? You shitters still haven't figured out why Toyota/BMW partnership happened and how it brought us a great Convertible and a great Coupé instead of nothing.

[@fuddrucker74]

@@inspectorchicken who are you? Roberts Blossom, in Christine? getyarn.io/yarn-clip/6d6e07f2-bacc-43b8-880d-70f11768e8c9

[@TheWHEATISHweet]

@@fuddrucker74 gold

[@FnVir]

@@inspectorchicken I know you're the head of BMW research and development using a fake KZbin account.

[@inspectorchicken]

@@FnVir I am and this is my real account

[@us3rnam3144]

"and what they found was :it met toyota's stringent quality standard" you mean thats what the marketing team said about the SINGLE MOTOR they looked at. Yeah no, if i buying a Toyota the last thing i want is BMW in charge of the reliability

[@seren1ty755]

BMW makes solid engines, its just all the electronic gadgets that are just pure junk. some BMWs have reached 200k easy. Repairs are only expensive if you dont do it yourself. and repairing these cars are fairly straight forward. One thing i hate repairing are porsches , they are the worst.

[@impactEditHD]

@@seren1ty755 nah they're shit man. Are you referring to the newer BMW's ?

[@dekkerlundquist5938]

@@seren1ty755 Vanos pump anyone?

[@bearclaw5115]

The thudding sound you are complaining about is called the Helmholtz effect. Vortices spin off the A-pillars and then encounter the B-pillars. A 'sharp' B-pillar will create a very defined boundary where the air is rapidly moving in or out. If the B-pillar was more rounded then the turbulent air would be split more gently. You are correct, it is highly annoying, enough so that I didn't buy a GTI because of it.

[@markfinnegan6038]

As usual, great review. Dealer by me still has the original 3 Supra's they were allocated and they are STILL marked up - cheapest is 87K. The launch edition they still have listed for 108K and roped off like it is vault filled with diamonds. Nothing like discouraging buyers and preventing the Supra from being on the road by slapping a ridiculous ADM on them (I'm looking at you also Honda).

[@CarStory]

Toyota saved my marriage by not offering this car with a manual transmission. Me and my wife would be fighting over who gets to drive it off the lot.

[@dimsumpizza4746]

So, whos driving the manual?

[@CarStory]

Rowyn Maxwell We both drive manual transmission cars so that's why we would be fighting over a manual Supra. I would win though because I'd be paying for it.

[@CarStory]

Malik Martin you need to take a deep breath before you start typing. My comment was not meant to be taken seriously. You may need to seek professional help if you get upset when reading KZbin comments. Now go try to find a life for yourself.

[@CarStory]

@Malik MartinDid you just go into a Trump rant? OMG GET HELP!

[@זהסודי-ה7מ]

Nailed it

[@Diggin00]

Good job! I hadn’t heard the tidbit about Toyota going over the engine and deeming it reliable.

[@404nobrakes]

Paul von Helger yeah the B58 is known to be a good engine. But maintenance costs, electronics etc. are what get you

[@Villani_AV]

"affordable" where I make just over the median income in the US and it would be a terrible financial decision to buy one of these even if I had no other bills (rule of thumb don't finance a vehicle that is more than half your yearly income)

[@ZeerXX]

Rest assured most people who drive expensive cars are in a lot of debt. Anyone who is good with their money dont buy expensive cars. They buy used if anything

[@jameswhitaker9169]

Yes, looked it up in Seattle & affordable is not $50 thousand for the base model...

[@lros]

Just buy pre owned this car is mass produced so the prices will drop just like the frs be patient my friend 🙂

[@jsfbay1]

@@jameswhitaker9169 - I'm not defending the car, but at least there aren't many option packages (just the driver assistance stuff, which I would want).

[@2003evodave]

ZeerXX WRONG ,,,LoL,,,,many people with money buy expensive cars plus pay cash for them too.

[@jooky87]

Best car nerd duo on the internets. Better production value than top gear.

[@xelawash]

To date, this is the best Supra video I have seen.

[@dsugioaga]

The fart noises it makes every time it shifts are hilarious.

[@smilepermile888]

14:12 If you're in Europe, you guys should check out the Alpine A110. Its a midengined sportscar priced similarly to this Supra and the 718 Cayman. It weighs 2400lbs, has an all aluminium construction including the front+rear double wishbone suspension that is intentionally set to allow pitch+roll, 205/40 front and 235/40 rear tyres. Think of it as a slightly more powerful Mazda MX-5 or Subaru BRZ. BUT, even if they've recently unveiled the more 'hardcore' A110 S model, they don't come with a manual (granted, it may be decent dual clutch transmission but it ain't PDK levels of excellent) and it uses a turbocharged 4 cylinder from a Renaultsport Megane. The build quality isn't the best either, but for the price you pay, you'll tell that they've spent most of their R&D budget on the chassis design - so many UK-based journalists have praised it and some even bought it for that matter. Dan Prosser (journo on EVO Magazine, Pistonheads, Autocar, Car Gurus UK and @drivenation_ on Instagram), Gordon Murray and James May own one. Despite it being no manual, the 2400lbs weight and its eagerness to rotate/trail-brake makes it really worthwhile to test it out. It has similar power-to-weight ratio to the Supra, although we all know by now that the B58 engine has a whole lot more potential with the aftermarket than the A110's 4 cyl, even with the help of Litchfield's Stage 1 upgrade.

[@jamescarson6681]

Love that car. Harry Metcalfe, Jay Emm on Cars and Dan Trent posted very informative videos on that car too.

[@Wolf_Larsen]

Except you can't actually buy one since Renault deliberately made them in homeopathic numbers to build hype. However, the Porsche Gayman might be a quality option to go for instead of this. Or just get a used one and spend the savings on fuel and track days.

[@captainvector]

Wish we could get them in the states

[@jamescarson6681]

@@captainvector When most Americans only care about horsepower and 0 to 60 figures, why would Alpine see the business case with that?

[@captainvector]

@@jamescarson6681 You're right. There's no reasonable way that they would try. I'm guessing, but I suspect that to bring that car to North America, the price point would put it in the same territory as the Alfa 4C, which doesn't sell well here either. It's a shame.

[@squidwardshouse67]

They really dropped the ball not giving the Supra a manual

[@MrColourclassic]

@Charlie Vetsworth And yet Porsche has just offered the 2020 911 Carrera with a 7 speed manual. For chasing lap times a DCT is superior (which this BMW also doesn't have) - for pure driving enjoyment a manual is where it's at. I've owned a ZF equipped performance car - it's good, but it's nowhere near as engaging as driving with a clutch pedal.

[@JaredFromSubway88]

Same with the Vette.....

[@Tech-Kino2685]

@Charlie Vetsworth wrong to the max

[@imtheonehero9305]

@@Tech-Kino2685 dct is the future. Dont be stupid

[@imtheonehero9305]

@@MrColourclassic yes, Porsche had the manual 911 but the car is still much slower than its dct counterpart. Which means manual is of the past and Charlie is right

[@eyesopen444]

I don't know who you are but I like your mellow style! Can't wait to see more, subbed!

[@anthh3255]

I will eventually get the Supra in the next few years, and this review sealed the deal for me. Thank you.

[@runnergy]

Why didn't they just build it on the RC-F?

[@TumbiMtika]

It would have been too heavy.

[@runnergy]

Tumbi Mtika good point. Makes sense as the RC-Fvis too heavy.

[@frankymartinez5539]

wouldn’t be an inline 6

[@hadez438]

Too heavy, still need to develop a new straight 6 turbo. Don’t forget still probably no manual.

[@YasssStitch]

Be as it may, I really like this car.

[@Sinoops]

I hated this car but now I'm trying to figure out how I will buy one...

[@joeyw.8430]

It's really good

[@mugensamurai]

This new BMW M Coupe sure kinda looks like a Toyota concept car.

[@oldcrook510]

Supra fan bois: Bring back the Supra! Toyota: We make money on economy cars not sports cars. We're not spending big money to develop a car that will have almost nothing sales compared to everything else we make. Toyota Engineer: Just re badge a Z4 and call it a day they''ll drool over anything we slap a Supra badge on. Toyota: Good idea! Supra fan bois: YAY! Greatest Toyota ever!

[@kdash3215]

They're pretty cool, and a lot better looking in person. 14:30 Phew, I was hoping that Silverado wouldn't blow a brake line

[@sleepercell9926]

People are just hating on this car. I actually really like it

[@sleepercell9926]

@@JPEnjoi yeah it does look epic. Its a shame about the BMW heritage but if you appreciate it for what it is that is an epic car

[@MrRdlv]

People who hates it can't or won't buy it anyway

[@gregpavitt309]

Good then... go by this piece of BMW junk😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@gregpavitt309]

@@MrRdlv who the hell would want to buy it in the first place even if they had the money😂😂😂😂😂

[@Cristian13x]

Nice review mann best one out there so far. None of this bmw talk u usually get

[@DownforceGaming]

This is the best car review chan on youtube

[@camalexander8843]

Kudos on the camera work, the shots against the water are stunning.

[@mikedevaney3507]

I think it's one of the sexiest cars in years!!

[@JasonSpitzMI50]

I'm here to tell you that this car will eat some highway up, from the Celica to the Supra. This car will give any Camaro or Mustang of the same year pure hell...You're Welcome!!!

[@rdizzo1313]

Toyota needs to come out with a “Pure” Toyota Supra Classic....

[@Swordsquire]

Agreed...

[@vomErsten]

That would basically be a Toyota-badged LC500.

[@cat-em3mj]

@@vomErsten exactly what am thinking or a lexus rcf

[@kokolee3274]

get it over it

[@rdizzo1313]

Koko Lee Whut?🤣

[@jaywest9786]

Without a doubt you are the best auto reviewer out there.

[@buhta86]

I've been to the Magna factory some years ago. They make models for all kinds of manufacturers. Amazing to see how this works.

[@JDsHouseofHobbies]

I've seen a couple if the flesh, one driving and the other was on a transporter. I didn't like what I saw online and but in person, it like it. Sadly, I don't have $40,000.

[@ZZZRaven65]

Even sadder is you'll need at least $50,000, not $40,000... and that's before dealer markups.

[@Ironfangzu]

A realistic price to drive it out of the dealership is closer to $54k. $40k would get you the front 3/4 of the car but no rear wheels.

[@thomass3769]

Love the videos. Saw a Supra on the street and it looks great

[@K03sport]

... Yes, it looks good, but the (car's) issue go way deeper than the looks. And that is where it goes all wonky.

[@mexicanhalloween]

When you said Tada-san I thought you were saying Toddda-san and thought Toddd was going to do a very ill-advised bit.

[@YasumotoUS]

I thought the very same thing. :D I miss the off-color comments in Mr. Geese's reviews.

[@Affalterbach1967]

The rear twitchiness that you suspect was due to a greasy differential was attributed to rear bump steer as toe-in toe-out fluctuates with ride height. Robert Mitchell of Apex Nurburgring has a few videos on this.

[@benjaminromshak9904]

Your savageness MR. GEESE has earned you a new subscriber! Keep up the great work Sir!

[@MaxSpeedMike]

"Judgement Day" is exactly right. I'll be reviewing a very fast mk4, then an a90 with some mods afterward. Very interested to see the huge jump from old school toyota, to new school bmw.

[@alansmilealot]

When do you think the video will be posted?

[@MaxSpeedMike]

@@alansmilealot the mk4 supra will be out next week. The a90 (with a few mods) may not be out until January. I travel for some of my reviews, the a90 included.

[@j.redbeard99]

The Zupra is an attractive car to some people, including me. However, it is a “BMW in Toyota clothing.” BMW should’ve just made a Z4 coupe.

[@truthhurtz8767]

It has nothing a sports car buyer would want. There's lot's of sports cars out there that are better and cheaper.

[@jnauttube]

I'm glad to see a sports car without back seats. It helps remind us of its purpose. We keep designing sports cars... but with more space for groceries, and room for a baby seat... and bigger cup holders... and place to put soccer gear for the kids.

[@jeffsloane8628]

Unless BMW changed their supplier or formula for gaskets and coolant hoses there is NO WAY this engine will have Toyota maintenance costs. I've owned 2 5 series from 60K to 180K miles and on both cars replaced many components in the cooling system (hoses, expansion tank, water pump) and gaskets (oil stand housing, valve cover gasket, oil coolant lines, etc.) TWICE on BOTH cars. It is a known BMW issue. When these Supras start hitting 80K miles or 7 years of age they are going to see gaskets and cooling parts failing left and right. Nice video. Thumbs up.

[@ElijahIan]

Can’t do it captan I just don’t have the power..... Also I have 4 kids

[@K03sport]

... Just make 4 trips 😁

[@Joolz1982]

Make yr Wife/partner buy another car that is what mine will be doing.

[@chocolatewheelchair]

Busy guy jeez

[@Shintsu2]

@@Joolz1982 Implying the guy's wife doesn't already drive some school bus sized crossover SUV. If I had a dollar for every "My wife's [insert big SUV here]", I'd be so well off from that alone...

[@TampaDE5]

Your videos are so good I wish they all were about twenty minutes longer.

[@tonydaravong]

Not feeling the new Supra. I’ll pass on this one

[@iluvmyeski]

ok

[@dino91001]

vnq fuck the gtr 😂🤢😖🤮

[@davidr5340]

the ONLY reason I like this car is an I-line 6 should be so smooth that you cant feel it running at all at idle. Thanks for showing the front suspension. Great video. I think they didnt put a manual trans because they dont want people breaking the transmission and the rear differential every 4 weeks. (same reason the C8 and GT500 do not have manual trans.).

[@Sahidable]

After seeing this review, Daddy Doug’s review, & what the aftermarket and Daddy Papadakis has done to the Supra, I actually want this car even more now than ever.

[@Kittievr]

Hope you feel better after the Honda incident

[@b0nz1official]

What happened?

[@Random-nf7qb]

here for the explanation

[@drivedb7]

joe schmoe - C’mon already. You’ve got us at the edge of our seats.

[@iaskosam]

@@drivedb7 He was in a Civic "lasting forever" vs Minivan with no lights situation. Check his instagram.

[@drivedb7]

iaskosam - Welp, there’s one less stock, unmolested 6th gen Civic coupe out there now and that’s really a shame. At least he walked away from the whole incident. Got lucky.