is the Porsche 718 Cayman the world's finest all-round driver's sportscar? 2017 Review...

[@1michaelricci]

2021 718 Cayman T owner here. First Porsche and first brand new car purchase of my life. Base price was $68,700, with carbon ceramics and other light-weight go fast options and the 7year/75K miles factory warranty…it was $86K out the door. I would do it all over again. What a car!!

[@Gregjohnshaftmansons]

Nice Michael.. I should call on you 😮

[@camabron1]

Absolutely no need for carbon ceramics in that car. Amateur.

[@luukse1238]

​@@camabron1 No need to hate, cant ever go wrong with good brakes. Maybe not necessary all the time but good to have.

[@artysanmobile]

@@1michaelricci That warranty is money well spent. 👍🏽

[@artysanmobile]

@@camabron1 Amateur?? Dinner’s ready upstairs.

[@final_mile_music9713]

I have a base 718 but manual and fully loaded interior, sports Chrono, PASM, PDLS+, PTV, Bose etc. it’s an unbelievable car.

[@UTubeSL]

Dream car! Mind if I ask, is it playful? Eg how easy is it to slide/get the back end to come round?

[@Koopa33]

The test drive overall was a great experience. But I was honestly disappointed with the power. Felt very sluggish in my opinion, but the drive was still truly amazing. Everything was smooth and well refined.

[@neiltitmus9744]

I belive you

[@final_mile_music9713]

@@UTubeSL Inhabent really got the back out on the road. I’m sure you could if you wanted to. It’s not short of grunt.

[@final_mile_music9713]

@@Koopa33 It’s not sluggish in the right gear. You’ll hear people talk about ‘turbo lag’. There isn’t any. What there IS is a boost threshold. That is, you really need to be above 2-2500 RPM. Which I always am as I’m choosing my own gears. I don’t find that sluggish at all. It’s the perfect amount of power for the road. Power you can really exploit. You might want more on the track or if you just like to drag race.

[@peterj5751]

The new engine is great and I loved it until I drove a 981 with the 3.4 flat 6. The sound and way it builds power with revs more than compensates for the lessor performance model for model from my point of view. Had I not driven the flat 6, I would have bought a 718 Boxter S and loved it. Sadly I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that Porsche wanted to differentiate the Boxter / Cayman from the much more expensive 911 rather than make the Boxter Cayman more desirable. It appears many agreed which is why the GTS with the 4.0l flat 6 was introduced.

[@coolaa7]

I am always amazed when a reviewer does such a detailed review but doesn't spend any time talking about ride quality. How hard is the suspension? How does it feel on rough roads? How comfortable would you be on a long trip? How are these not important questions to discuss in a review?

[@Dragobrath]

Well, it's a sportscar, not a grand tourer. You wouldn't really want to take it on long roadtrips or regularly drive on rough roads. You can, but it's not what this car is for.

[@chlyon]

It wasn't mentioned on the paper in the envelope Porsche handed this reviewer , only wads of cash and how its still a great car .JK

[@coolaa7]

@Dragobrath It will most likely be the case that any commute will have roads in imperfect condition. Thus, how it rides on such roads is important, especially since he was making the daily driver argument.

[@Dragobrath]

@@coolaa7 It's fine in most of the cities. I just ride in sport setting (the stiffest one), you can set it to normal mode if you're driving on gravel and it does not fell terrible. It's not 90's sportscar stiff, but it's stiffer than BMW M4.

[@rembo183]

@@Dragobrath -Yes. It’s a firm ride and fairly comfortable for a true roadster type sports car. Indeed I owned one and it was better than my Miata a it was bigger, heavier with more room. But still stiffer than ordinary street cars. Not enough room for your passengers to stretch out and relax. Feels the road beneath your butt!

[@Nicke_C8H18]

I have had my 718 CS 2017 since new. I configurated mine for the most genuine lightweight Porsche sportscar experience. Manual, PTV, PASM with sport chassis. No shit like parking sensors, cameras, lane assist and 2017 is the year without particle filter. It is tuned to ~400hp... an amazing little rocket that can keep up with the big boys. 😀 Consistently 0-100kph in 3,6-3,8s Measured with GPS.

[@christmasisawesome9348]

Have you also done a test driven in the base Cayman? How much better is the S to the base?

[@Nicke_C8H18]

@@christmasisawesome9348 When i confugurated my 718 CS 2017 in 2016 the Porsche dealer had just received one base Boxster (300) and one Boxster S (350). I tested both back to back and my experience is that the 300hp was held back in comparison to the 350hp. Both cars give excellent driver experience. The S is of course faster and the difference are more noticeable at higher speeds. Original HP 100 - 200 kph --- 10,2 vs Base 13,1s. You can compare cars on "fastestlaps" & co... Look for a car with Sport chassis with PASM (-20mm) and PTV.

[@drbobs8267]

@@Nicke_C8H18 where did you get it tuned? Which ECU?

[@chefsaliva5317]

This video deserves more likes and views. Thanks for your efforts, I am planning on getting a 718 once they get updated again

[@CarandDrivingCarReviews]

Much appreciated!

[@Theewintanu]

No New update for 718 ICE (internal Combusion Engine), They(Porsche German) do EV cayman/Boxter intead.

[@chefsaliva5317]

@@Theewintanu in europe that may be the case but I can see the US getting an electric turbo 4cyl. There’s no rush on my end

[@steyeroffgrid]

@@chefsaliva5317the combustion engine in the USA finishes in 2025, all electric after that. In Australia the combustion model finished in may this year and the EV starts sometime 2025.

[@steyeroffgrid]

@@TheewintanuThanks (For that)…

[@artysanmobile]

I love the side profile of the 718, with a super short rear overhang.

[@artysanmobile]

The words “poor man’s” are ill advised. The fact it is a $40k discount from the 911 does not in any way whatsoever make it for “poor men”. I have to say though, I really admire what Porsche is doing with this car, and that is, finding a platform to use different styling. The 911 platform is ridiculously resistant to change. So, here we go with a new look for Porsche. That’s a great idea.

[@nafnaf0]

The 911 is still a much better car overall. For straight handling and grip, the 718 wins for sure, it is better balanced and lighter too. But at this point it is a pretty old design and has not gone through refinement of the 911. The 992.1 911 is much more refined, larger inside, much nicer, has much better engines, etc... I would certianly take a base 992.1 911 over a 718 GTS 4.0 anyday. The base 911 is still more expensive than the GTS 4.0, but not by that much.

[@a64738]

I wish it was "poor man`s" ;) But it is for slightly less super rich.... I think it is way to much money when you can buy a house for the same lol :) (here it is insane tax on cars...). I plan to buy a used Porsche Cayman and now with all new cars having build in tracking and automatic speed limiters baying a new car is not an option at all anymore anyway.

[@artysanmobile]

@@a64738 where is home for you?

[@inflatable2]

​@@nafnaf0 Only with the latest 992 the 911 moved away from the still current Cayman/Boxster.. Before that the Cayman/Boxtser were basically a 911 in disguise with better engine layout and balance, for *a lot* less money.. Porsche wants you to believe the 911 is a much better car so you pay the huge premium.. This video explains it pretty well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGm1dYepp56DhaM Arguably the 718 GT4RS is still the best driving Porsche sportscar on sale today, and that's still based on the older 9*1 platform.. The latest 992 911 is more modern and more digital for sure, but is it really better as a sportscar?!? Depends on what you want from a sportscar I guess.. Personally the 9*1 platform was the sweetspot for me between analog and digital, the 992 is to digital for me.. Before you know it the whole dash is just one big touchscreen tablet and you're driving a 2+ ton "sportscar", like modern BMW's and Tesla's, no thanks..

[@DontTellMeMore]

I love being poorish. My Cayman S was 122k and my base Boxster 76K. Also poorish at math. Maybe I could have purchased a fat 992 911 to make look me rich and fat. All three are great above average cars, what you think is best is best, who cares what anyone else thinks. I'd love them even more if they were the size of my R53 Mini. As far as styling, check out the side view of a 992 and 718 Cayman.

[@amac8487]

Love my 2.5 GTS. Feels like a gokart on the street! I can’t imagine anyone getting in this car and driving it, and NOT enjoying it.

[@thedrivebygg]

I drove the base 2.0 with the pdk and loved it, such a great convertible

[@bradnelson4778]

I have one and love it. Not the soundtrack of the flat 6 but NO issue with performance or handling. A step forward in sharpness and handling over the previous model - regardless, whatever puts a smile on your face. Much easier to tune and get another 100 bhp if you are that way inclined. Just find a good specialist.

[@drbobs8267]

Nice review and as a 718 owner, very accurate. I have to admit that I’m tired of every reviewer saying “it doesn’t have the sonorous howl of its 6-cylinder predecessor”. With rare exception, these are the exact words that almost every reviewer says. It must’ve been sent out from reviewer school. Especially the word sonorous. I think that they all listen to each other and say the same damn things. In any case, the four-cylinder sounds great. Even without the “sonorous howl”. And, what’s wrong with the sound of a Subaru WRX STi sound anyway? I think they sound great. 😎

[@a64738]

I absolutely LOVE the sound of the Subaru WRX, if the 4 cylinder Turbo Cayman sound like that I think it is even better then the 6 cylinder boxer lol :)

[@Miroslav-v9m]

Fully agree. As a owner of tunned Cayman T with Tubi Style exhaust I have to say it is one the best sounding and fastest cars for legal roads for affordable money!

[@83zoso]

I almost bought that exact car. Until I found out it was a much used press car when the 718 was first released. Wasn't keen after watching loads of car journalists rallying it all over the place. Mad to think that its still appearing in videos/reviews online. Ended up going for a much nicer looking black 718T.

[@WHODEYFAN25]

By far the best and most comprehensible reviews I've seen, now I just need to decide between this or a used G Wagon lol

[@CarandDrivingCarReviews]

Much appreciated

[@alphabeta8403]

2:40 History of 4 cylinders 4:30 How it sounds 9:40 Drive modes 13:25 981/2 > 911 16:40 Cabin space (dated) 27:00 Options 37:00 No weight loss going from 6 to 4 cylinders 39:50 Resale value; insurance 41:53 The one with the downsized engine

[@williammorris3334]

Let’s be honest. The Boxster/Cayman is a better car than the 911 if you don’t care about back seats you can’t really use other than to throw stuff into. The 981/982 chassis use mostly the same parts from the 911 and are built on the same assembly line. I have a 981 Boxster S and the yes the flat six is amazing, also as much power as you can safely use on the street. It’s a bulletproof car and Porsches are designed for ease of maintenance and repair unlike almost all other manufacturers. I do all my own maintenance and there reallly isn’t that much for 40,000 mile intervals. I’d recommend Pasm or the X73 suspension upgrades as the handling is phenomenal! I love top down driving and wouldn’t trade it for a Cayman. Top up driving is nearly identical to the Cayman and a cat back exhaust and tune will net you 350hp.

[@TRZ0612]

I have the 718 GT4. The BIGGEST negative with this platform is that is has struts in the rear as opposed to a multi-link. Struts are fine up front , but it makes for a car that moves around more than it should because of the toe changes in the rear as the suspension articulates

[@stephenlane9168]

Another great, enjoyable watchable and comprehensive informative video. 👌👏

[@CarandDrivingCarReviews]

Thank you

[@981_pdk3]

Nice review. You can also argue the best drivers model is the poor man’s underpowered 911 Carrera T. Not sure why Porsche does this after all the Cayman seems to be made up of much more 911 parts underneath than we all thought. Anyway must be good news for drivers and can only mean Cayman values should be solid

[@Datimdavis2900]

Love my 2022 718S….no complaints

[@scurfawatches]

Me too the car is amazing

[@Datimdavis2900]

As do I…amazing car

[@dazturbo1]

Best porsche car review ever well done 👏

[@CarandDrivingCarReviews]

Thank you so much - you should come to our meet and greet!

[@JohnThomas-tc5rf]

Love my 718T more than enough power and with pasm, sport chrono and porsche vectoring built in is the one to have

[@final_mile_music9713]

Mine is specced the same but it’s not the T. It’s incredible.

[@SShepherd]

You can fit a single golf club bag if you lay it under the back window in the Cayman. In the US models never came with a wireless charger with the smartphone compartment, it's a cell phone booster only.

[@osbornewales]

Everyone mentions the sound of the 6 cylinder when high revving being so much better than the 4 cylinder, but with a PDK and normal driving, the engine does not get to rev high. I have had my base 718 Cayman for over 3 years, coming from a 560hp 4.8 litre v8 twin turbo (M5 F10) and I find the Cayman wants for nothing in both sound and power. I almost didn't want to look at a 718 as so many people were complaining about the sound, but I am glad I did! I just thought to write this in case anyone is put off in even looking at a 178 due to the complains about the sound kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWm5gppqqbOYbZo

[@bongjovi4168]

The only thing I hate is the fake buttons on the centre console that'll always remind you of the options that were never ticked that you're now missing.

[@beachboy0505]

Amazing car 🚗 A Porsche is a Porsche

[@doolian1t118]

The self ad banner is really annoying

[@CarandDrivingCarReviews]

will be fixing that on our upcoming videos

[@zshark365]

Hell no, it's not the poor man's Porsche. The 718 is a Beast, speed, handling, looks. So much fun to drive.

[@Shooterpirat]

Great video. Love the presentation, very good and knowledgeable host. Enjoyed the video very much. Subbed! 😊

[@CarandDrivingCarReviews]

Thank you, really appreciate that

[@hughrobinson9978]

The 718 is a facelift of the 981. Its not as different as you imply. The architecture of the 981 was designed from the outset to house 4 cylinder motors (even initially the Audi TT straight 4). The overall shape is the same and one of the longest lived Porsches of recent times, having been introduced (as a Boxster) in 2012.

[@jeff8ball]

Thanks for a very in depth review.👍

[@CarandDrivingCarReviews]

Glad it was helpful!

[@RobHTech]

IDK. I always wanted a Porsche, but nowadays, the competition is fierce. You get a heck of a lot more buying a Corvette for example. Even the new Z is just as fast and pretty nice for about $40k less, and that's a lot of money. Plus, things that should be standard cost a lot, and so no 718 Cayman is going to costs the stated USD $72k. More like $80-$90, and again, at that price point, an M2 is just as fun for less. Heck even the IS 500 is a better buy, and with Lexus, you hold value. So, it's hard for me to justify buying a Porsche now that I'm old enough and successful enough to buy one.

[@folag]

My favourite car is the Audi R8 (V10). Small footprint, with all four corners visible from the driver's seat. Best of all, it can be driven like a common sedan, but runs with the 911s when you decide to go hooligan, with that glorious V10 sound! So, anything wrong with it? Yes - it's not involving like a 911. 😊

[@Mark-rt6fy]

I love r8 v10 but its footprint is always larger than 911s, both width and length, also weight

[@folag]

@@Mark-rt6fy I have both an R8 as well as a 997 (OK, a Ruf Rt12). I feel that I'm in a bulkier car in 997. I'll have to measure the two cars to be properly informed. Thanks for alerting me of a probable error!

[@Mark-rt6fy]

​@@folagNever seen a ruf in person (apparently selling for more than gt2rs in the US) but stock 997 has slow steering ratio, which probably makes you feel the car being big

[@folag]

@@Mark-rt6fy Thanks, that makes sense. The steering ratio may be a differential factor in how large or small the car feels.

[@jimsteinway695]

I’d buy an R8 but everyone says they’re not as good as a 911. So I have the 991.2 GT3

[@gotze1772]

Excellent review 👏

[@CarandDrivingCarReviews]

Thank you!

[@paulwilson7234]

Excellent video.

[@CarandDrivingCarReviews]

Glad you liked it!

[@thedrivebygg]

Nice video

[@CarandDrivingCarReviews]

Thanks!

[@kklassen]

Nice , unique colour.

[@drstrangelove4998]

An excellent review ❤

[@CarandDrivingCarReviews]

Thank you!

[@listenwatchandwait]

Loads of people who watch this wont be able to get one on the drive due to other "priorities" - don't despair theres the 987 etc out there for sub £10k that will provide the thrills and Porsche kudos - out in mine yesterday it was so much fun trying to catch an M3 - made his day 😂

[@LurchLures]

There term "Pòor mans Porsche" is a bit silly. When I was in my early twenties the Dino 246 was the "poor mans Ferrari". You could get one for about 15k about 10 years old. Second hand prices are just about supply and demand. Thety are not directly related to beauty , quality , reliability, handling or anything useful or ornamental. Personally I would rather have a Cayman than anything else, except for a 904 and I cant afford one of those.

[@paullopez7561]

Ha ha ha !!!! The Cayman and boxster might started out as a poor man's Porsche BUT it quickly became EXPENSIVE!!!! By the time you had enough to put a down payment on a Cayman; its price was already in the stratosphere!!!!

[@Dave-un7fh]

Umm. Wrong. The Cayman wasn't released until around 2003. The Boxster was released in 1996.

[@nigelsmith3144]

2005

[@JJL206]

2006 launch in the US as a Cayman S only. The 2.7 followed in 2007.

[@nigelsmith3144]

2005 in the UK@@JJL206

[@JJL206]

@@nigelsmith3144Sounds right. You get all the good stuff first over there!

[@rembo183]

You’re going to spend about $80,000 in USA for the entry level base Cayman with one or two options after taxes maybe more. This is NOT A CAR FOR THE AVERAGE WORKER! That’s a Mustang, Miata or BRZ/ GR86, Nissan Z or Supra; Not a Porsche which is priced us out!

[@paulg3870]

It’s the same in europe don’t worry. I was hesitating between a supra and a cayman, the Porsche was 10k € more expensive, for less performance, and somewhat similar driving experience.

[@michaelmeredith912]

Great pre owned buy

[@romulus_]

be smart -- buy used. I got a cayman s for less than $40k.

[@Codenameyash]

Same in South Africa. Although prices of cars are ridiculous anyway.

[@drunvert]

Used

[@Snoozzzzzze]

Pretty car but you convinced me to keep my Golf R as it is just as quick to accelerate and has 5 seats and a hatchback. Oh and 4 wheel drive. Very nearly as quick as a 911 down the straights on track but loses out on the bends, I’ve never seen a cayman on track to compare.

[@MacOnCrack86]

I also have a Golf R (Wagon) with stage 1 gearbox and engine. I've had it going on 6 years now, since new. Im looking at upgrading to the 718 Cayman GTS 4.0. If you havn't driven one, i suggest you give it a try as you simply cant compare the Cayman to the Golf. It may not be much quicker in a straight line but you just feel so much more connected to the car, it really is a fantastic car to drive and makes the Golf feel rather boring in comparison, and even though my Golf has a Milltek cat back exhaust, the sound of that flat 6 engine is far better.

[@riggs1590]

Never understood the poor mans Porsche thing, is the Fiesta known as the poor mans ford, or the Audi A3 the poor mans Audi? Not at all, just different models within the range. A 3 litre Audi is called a big Audi, but a 3.4 litre Porsche is considered small 🤔 😅. Porsche Boxsters/ Cayman/ Spyders are fantastic fun cars, never claiming to be the fastest, just an all round great sports car with enough variations to suit most.

[@Magnetorheological]

A Cayman started at 56k usd back in 2019, and now starts at 73k for essentially the same car. Used 2018s used to hover around low 30k and now you almost can't escape 48k+. Porsche pricing got jacked up so much in the last couple years...they werent "poor men's" cars before, and even less so nowadays. 80k usd for a base 4cyl Cayman after tax, title and registration is highway robbery!

[@steyeroffgrid]

Great video ❤ can’t wait for the EV version.

[@craig8638]

I hope the EV comes soon.

[@CarandDrivingCarReviews]

Thank you

[@eddiegray793]

Good review tks

[@CarandDrivingCarReviews]

Thanks for watching!

[@ashleyevans1255]

Beautiful colour!

[@DLITINTHEHOUSE]

The nickel and diming to simply use CarPlay, which is already there but needs to be activated, is a deal breaker.

[@final_mile_music9713]

I think this is an old review. It doesn’t need activating. It’s just there.

[@TheSushiandme]

Cant wait

[@gregorykorvin]

Thank you for this test drive for the Porsche 718 Cayman 2.0 Turbo - I don't understand why Porsche doesn´t market this car with the TURBO logo? After all it's a Porsche TURBO ;-) And this year is the 50th year anniversary for the TURBO models - Greetings from Marbella..

[@CarandDrivingCarReviews]

Thank you for watching!

[@Manis-World]

Porsche cannot have it eclipse 911 whatsoever

[@gregorykorvin]

@@CarandDrivingCarReviews thank you I invite you to watch my latest test driving of the Porsche Cayman 2.0 Turbo (2024) in Marbella, Southern Spain ;-) Watch: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4WwcqWHidJ7pJYsi=iSWpD4mhbB43WjTx

[@gregorykorvin]

@@Manis-World thank you, I invite you to watch my latest test driving of the Porsche Cayman 2.0 Turbo (2024) in Marbella, Southern Spain ;-) Watch: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4WwcqWHidJ7pJYsi=iSWpD4mhbB43WjTx

[@smxlad]

Not exactly poor man’s car,, £60,000 plus

[@gaara4667]

Poor man’s Porsche! Not car. Big difference there.

[@romulus_]

@@gaara4667 I hate that phrase. I can afford a 911 but chose a cayman because I like its handling characteristics and size.

[@gaara4667]

@@romulus_ but it’s still a poor man’s Porsche. Cheaper Porsche sports car to get into the brand than a base 911. Not that the individual buying isn’t wealthy.

[@romulus_]

@@gaara4667 it's cheaper but not cheap. it's not a poor man's anything.

[@gaara4667]

@@romulus_ poor man’s anything means something is cheap or cheaper. So it’s a cheap or cheaper Porsche.

[@final_mile_music9713]

It’s more of a sports car than the current 911. TBH.

[@DandyDan123]

I can't take a review seriously by someone that probably never turned a wrench on a car!! Sally review here!!!

[@Rick-y7r]

I’ve had a 2021 cayman and Miata both are fun however the Miata is a better ROI

[@stephen300o6]

Poor mans Porsche is an MX-5.

[@paulm3033]

That's what I've got I'm proud to say, and I'm very happy with it ,but the Porsche does look tasty, I won't deny !

[@ricodog3652]

I don’t know if it’s the finest ever but it’s the finest I’ve ever driven.

[@mwh3227]

Poor and Porsche don't go together no matter what Porsche that you own!

[@TP-3000]

These always look good on track as I overtake them in a Lotus

[@drstrangelove4998]

… of course you do TP 👍🏻

[@rboddington]

With your Toyota Camry engine?

[@listenwatchandwait]

Sorry only Porsche is Porsche - Lotus quick but.....

[@TP-3000]

@@listenwatchandwait you keep telling yourself that!

[@tommy516]

There is NO Poor Mans Porsche, they are all expensive as shit now!

[@mwh3227]

"Poor man's Porsche", that's funny! A poor mans Porsche would bae a Kia! There is a snobbery among 911 owners against all other Porsche owners! I have a 718 Cayman and a 2000 Boxster! I'm not poor! I love these great cars! BTW I'd take my 718 over a 911 any day! It's all bout balance!

[@paull3179]

Kind of a vw sound at idle but better once it gets going. I tell my kids a Cayman will make me look like I am successful but failed to make it to the top. My S4 is a monster at 455hp low end torque of 390 while a 911 has to be pushed harder with much more throttle to get the revs up before it comes alive.

[@982SharkBlue]

The notion about it being a poor man's Porsche is humorous. If you spec the 718 like a Porsche should be, you will easily break the 6 figures. Sport Chrono, Porsche Active Suspension Management, Porsche Torque Vectoring, with other must haves, youll be at 115k before taxes. This is the best Porsche built. Fast, nimble, light, and easily tuned with the turbo. How many poor people can afford a $2k a month car payment? 🤣 love my 2024 982 CS.

[@markhathaway4816]

Production 356s were rear-engined.

[@willielarsson9651]

Poor mans porsche.. id be happy to be called a tramp and have this!

[@arightpest3367]

Nope it’s boxster all the way for me I had an early one very tempted to get another before I kick the bucket. Never ever thought about the cayman .

[@Steve-jq4st]

I have a 2007 Boxster S with the 3.4 engine. Wonderful car to drive and a minimum of tech. Has to be a flat six in my opinion.

[@artmchugh5644]

I just got a new shirt made that reads " PORSCHE, MORE THAN JUST GETTING THERE "😊😊😊😊 thoughts????

[@churchbryan35]

I'm looking to buy a 987.1 for my 16yr old daughter here soon....shopping every site, and listing....definitely want a pre-2010...i think the market is way down on these models...i believe purchasing one at or around 22k...for a mud milage, clean title, and in great mechanical shape...the price could rise 10k in 3-5yr time period....the popularity of these models are ramping up...and aftermarket parts for body, and engine are thick.....the GT3 kit for the 987.1 is amazing....and transforms the body to a mean looking modern GT3 RS body styling...i haven't looked into turbo upgrades but not opposed as long as the engine is pristine...which i won't settle for anything less as far as engine health...I'm studying all the pros, and cons of the 987.1...and any final selections will be taken to local Porsche dealer to check bore scoring....and if all works...BBS 18×8 CO Titanium wheels...or if i can score some Bilstein, KW coil overs, or even Yellow Speed Racing air ride, all around the same cost..would alow to raise the car and slam it as low as possible...but don't want to take away from performance....it's not going to be tracked....just a first car for my 16yr old daughter...lol

[@zshark365]

Yea not a good first car for your daughter dude. Get her a Volkswagen anything.

[@BKP68]

wouldve been close if they fix that steering.

[@ENGBriseB]

Silly Headline probably the RS Cayman is one of the best Porsche cars.

[@hansbig7550]

Startingprice in The Netherlands: 115000 euro's. Not realy a poor man's car...

[@paulm3033]

Nice enough but all the extras will add a ton of cash to the base price, and quite a lot of them appear to be for pretty standard stuff, like heated seats .I didn't think the standard interior trim had a wow factor and the design of the seats looked pretty dull.I love the exterior look , it would definitely get lots of appreciative looks ,but on balance i'll stick with my MX5RF .

[@rembo183]

I totally agree with you. I have a 23 MX-5 RF GT and love it. I would love a Cayman or Boxster but I don’t want to spend $80k for a new one and I don’t want a 10 yr old Cayman with no warranty for more $$$ than my Miata! It’s a 2 seater after all and the RF in Soul Red looks spectacular and is easily as much fun as the Cayman. So I’ll keep my $35k fun roadster!

[@spinnetti]

Its an amazing car, but not at that price. Still doesn't stir my soul like the Gen I R8 Manual does.

[@towrecovery3377]

I have my car

[@zartic4life]

That's like calling millionaires poor because they're are billionaires.

[@CoolHand273]

As long as you buy one because you like how it drives that is fine. If you buy to "show off" you are out of your depth.

[@Jedireyskywalker]

I would be impressed if someone rolled up in this blue car. I am not impressed by rolexes and 911’s.

[@stephenauty2402]

1996 ? you mean 2006 550 Coupe ? You mean Spyder

[@adamrawlings6789]

Its a nice looking car, and I'm sure its well made, and your delivery of the specification details is commendable. But for a 'sports' car its almost comical that over the course of three quarters of an hour you've barely mentioned the handling, and tellingly only mentioned the Alpine A110 once or twice in the most brief fashion and didn't even count it as a real alternative, instead suggesting the BMW M2 and the Audi TTRS would be the most likely. Almost every single review of cars in this segment concludes that the Alpine is the better handling car, yet you've side-stepped this. So I can only conclude that you have been sponsored in some way by Porsche as its clearly not a truly objective review. You've concentrated so much on power statistics, straight-line speed and the myriad of options, but barely went into its steering and handling characteristics :- how the car makes you feel. But this makes sense, as many German car buyers want the badge first, the capabilities second

[@tonyadeney1245]

bit of snobbery can exist with porsche -- whatever you have somebody will have a better one /// interested start with a good history 5 6 year old boxster // then work your way up // they in reality are all good - certainly some better but all better than most cars // drove everyhting subaru audi bmw merc - once you get used to porsche difficult to change and you will find what suits --- top end turbo 911s fast like daft but seriously if you want to keep your license - start sensible gradually trade up // if later you want a new one and you drive one dealers will take you more seriously - if away would drop in and test models oh you drive porsche no problem ... this is good etc // when arriving on foot oh another tire kicker guy if you want to call back bit busy etc ... !!! also you learn there is a network for parts advice servicing clubs with a starter car ... you learn a lot .. and its a great deal cheaper ... for mere mortals ..

[@VK6AB-]

The two Caymans to have are the 981 GTS 3.4L NA with PTV and PSE its a sublime drive with a sublime sound track and 718 GTS 4L NA (excluding GT products) - slightly more power and torque than the 981 GTS with less sound track.

[@kelvin.008]

USD320K for a 2L base model in Singapore and you can use it for only 10 yrs😂 USD650K for a GT4RS and also can use for 10 years.😂😂

[@waltersickinger263]

Poor man's Porsche is an oxymoron. Porsches are expensive,very expensive,and obscenely overpriced.

[@Tjw1]

Oh come on, Audi and BMW just don't get close in terms of kerb appeal or drive. I can't get my head round the appeal of a Cayman, as a boxster driver why wouldn't you want the option to go topless when the sun's out, that's what it's all about surely? Still not sure about the sound of the 718's, the raspy growl of the aspirated 6 is so much sweeter.

[@acooper1037]

I hate the flat 4, spoils it so much, they are selling secondhand for less than the 918 now

[@Mark-rt6fy]

@@acooper1037 918 sells for well over 1 million, of course everything porsche is cheaper

[@ComeJesusChrist]

The poor man’s Porsche is a non-turbo Cayenne from twenty years ago or maybe a Boxster. The idiots’ choice is anything made in the last decade or so, anything on finance deals and anything that at any stage was sold over the list price. Give me a 996 or 997 instead or even better, a classic 911 or 928!

[@purphaze69]

In the states … same price …corvette or a 4 cylinder go kart .. hmm 🤔 le me see…

[@aussie8114]

Nice colour.

[@Aiken47]

Not once they go EV

[@profmathers00]

Tough sell for a four cylinder. If it’s going to sound like a Subaru had a baby with a GTI, it better not cost as much as a street MX-5 *and* an MX-5 Cup car

[@tomzphone]

no. 981 is

[@torrhthc4103]

Can only sit 2 and 4 cylinder…hmm

[@tedarcher9120]

90k$ supercar with a 4-cylinder lmao

[@MrRoyck10]

I own a base Cayman 987.2, it is marginally cheaper to service by a bees dick margin at Porsche Indy, one still need a slush fund to keep it going, still work every penny when that flat six BoxEngine sings above 4k rpm propelling you to license losing territory. I paid £23,000 two years ago more expensive than many Porsche 997 on sale at the time. I have no regrets on my choice and I enjoy meeting 911 on the twisty.

[@crazypigs100]

this or a tesla?

[@buddastud5534]

It is the poor man’s Porsche

[@waltvancourt5052]

Today, a S 2.5 cost as much as a previous 718 sypder, a GTS 4.0 as much as a 911. Unattainable for Average Working class people now.

[@akajimbo1]

Wow, I just checked Porsche site and you're right. 2.5S is over $105K. Similiarily configured 2021 Spyder was around 110K.

[@waltvancourt5052]

@@akajimbo1 own all .. 2018 2.5 cayman gts, ... still own 2017 911 c2s and 2020 718 spyder.

[@d.nakamura9579]

I got news for you - Porsches have never been intended for the average working class buyer. They’ve always been expensive.

[@pcar5]

Average working class is not Porsche's target customer.

[@screamingiraffe]

The 718 is like the annoying little brother that wants to be like the older brother. It's loud, and under-powered. The more 'affordable' sibling, an entry point for your first Porsche without putting yourself into bankruptcy attempting to play with the big boys. Later, after growing up a bit, you'll go in 1 of two directions (both if your wealthy) the Panamera, or the 911, not looking back at the Cayman

[@a64738]

Under powered ? On regular streets it feels faster then the 4 liter that do not wake up until you are over 5000rpm which make it feel slow on normal roads. Also if you want more you just turn up the turbo pressure...

[@dlg5485]

As much as I love the 718, there is no such thing as a "poor man's Porsche." That's a ridiculous claim. People who want to have fun behind the wheel at an affordable price should start their search with the Mazda Miata.

[@donkeyshot8472]

I`ll take a used cayman or boxster over a miata any time...and I did. it`s like comparing a decent white wine with a top-of-the-line champagne.

[@dlg5485]

@@donkeyshot8472 I disagree. Of course, most people want to justify the choice they made, but it's just their opinion, nothing more. In my opinion, the Miata is every bit as 'fun' as a base 718, but badge snobbery is a powerful thing. I desperately wanted a Porsche for decades and I test drove several used examples, but I ultimately decided I didn't want to deal with the absurd maint costs that come with owning a Porsche, especially preowned with no warranty, which is what I can afford. I brand new Miata is FAR more appealing to me.

[@donkeyshot8472]

@@dlg5485that`s fine by me too, of course. a few years ago, I drove a miata and a 987 boxster back-to-back. I decided to go with the porsche.

[@bf5175]

Answer, no. It has electric steering. Case closed.

[@ttinnovations3310]

sounds like a leaf blower with a rock stuck in it now , all that $$$$$$ for 4, lots of engineering magic to take out the sole & character, IMO its now a bean counters car, sad...

[@isquare-h9t]

I love how everyone tries to excuse away the horrible sound it makes.