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@danymanchster17599 ай бұрын
can you guys review the new highlander nightshade
@Car_conversati0nz9 ай бұрын
This was helpful when we bought our 2023 Sienna
@Gordo23479 ай бұрын
Both cabins are so spacious! 😊
@VQueen358 ай бұрын
It seems like the Palisades is the only 3 row SUV priced around $50k that has the ventilated seats in the back and massage chairs in the front. Are there any other SUVs with these specs ?
@bti-ro2vh9 ай бұрын
The Palisade will be refreshed soon and have all of the newer Hyundai technology.
@Facs12 ай бұрын
its been confirmed for the 2026
@BeyondLimits-xl5xx5 ай бұрын
Just traded 2022 palisade calligraphy for 2024 santa fe calligraphy and couldn't be happier 😊 The bold style in matte paint and upgraded technology plus gas mileage and price, was a no-brainer
@MikeStaks2 ай бұрын
Thinking of doing the same. Hows the size inside compared to the palisade
@flyingsolo2428 ай бұрын
I just got a 2024 Palisade Calligraphy and I love it! Coming from a 2017 Santa Fe Luxury... For me it fits the bill, we are grand parents and we don't need all the extra storage... We now have space for a full family vacation 😊. The driving experience and interior (light grey & dark blue) is luxurious, I do wish it had wireless carplay but it's not a show stopper... I do love the driver massage feature 😊
@enggvijayvyas2 ай бұрын
you can update your infotainment sytem, hyundai has enabled wireless carplay in palisade.
@flyingsolo2422 ай бұрын
@enggvijayvyas thanks for the info, I wasn't aware.
@jessechristman1471Ай бұрын
@@enggvijayvyasany idea if/when this will be coming to the telluride?
@ye7576.21 күн бұрын
Prob will as they have the same systems@@jessechristman1471
@sallystar82sa8 күн бұрын
I bought the 2024 Hyundai Santa Fe Calligraphy early 2024, I loved it..but after a few long road trips, I was very unhappy on how uncomfortable the seats were. I took it back to dealership, test drove 2024 Hyundai Palisade Calligraphy, settled for it bc it was a tad more comfortable. I preferred the interior of the Santa Fe, but the Palisade is growing on me. I dislike the 4cyl on the Santa Fe, it always hesitated on acceleration from a stop. But my biggest complaint of the Palisade is traveling on highway n having to listen to a loud "howling" sound on n off, guessing on windy conditions and dire direction ur traveling. IT IS FRUSTRATING. I went to dealership n asked about it n if it could be fixed. They had no answer for me, just excuses. I've gone online to Hyundai car forums to see if anyone had the same issue n there were many people with same complaint but no answers. I am currently looking for another vehicle as I travel a lot n I cannot deal with that loud howling sound for hours...
@silverwrx039 ай бұрын
The Palisade is much wider, I agree the design is older. On our test drive of both the Palisade was much quieter and the ride is far more supple. The palisade handles the rough roads up here in the Midwest much more gracefully than the Santa Fe. The Santa Fe does not even offer acoustic glass in the second row. I would love to see you guys do sound tests at 40mph and 70mph. I feel as though 55 is no longer a valid speed traveled by most people on most trips. At 70mph there was a noticeable difference between the two and the Palisade won with ease for us.
@CarGeek3609 ай бұрын
I was comparing both and now have plans to suggest the Pallisade to my aunt and uncle for their next car, it feels more premium and it's been out for longer meaning the issues are more likely to be irorned out, SantaFe does look cooler but the SEL has a manual front passenger seat while the Pallisade SEL has a power one
@jmartyt98109 ай бұрын
Palisade has the Automatic transmission... While Santa Fe is DCT. That alone is enough reason to avoid the Santa Fe.
@CarGeek3609 ай бұрын
@@jmartyt9810 that too, the Pallisade has been out for some time so most of the major issues are already ironed out for 2024
@silverwrx039 ай бұрын
@@CarGeek360 do not get me wrong, love the look of the new Santa Fe. But for a family of 5 with 2 dogs, the Palisade is much more comfortable. My wife loves her Hyper White Calligraphy Night Edition. So much so she no longer asks me to drive on long trips. The longer wheel base and the the much larger sidewall also helps the ride. I also agree I about the DTC, if I bought a Santa Fe it would only be a hybrid. But the 3.8L V6 has been in the Hyundai stable for a long time and has proven reliable.
@CarGeek3609 ай бұрын
@@silverwrx03 I find the SantaFe to be the better looking of the two on the outside however I also find the Pallisade the more upscale of the two on the inside, both are great choices but I would personally take the Pallisade over the SantaFe
@darriontunstall37089 ай бұрын
I would pick the Hyundai Santa Fe! Looks nice and different
@DuesGibGolfandLife9 ай бұрын
I’m in Australia and we Havnt got the Santa Fe here yet but I’ve watched all your videos on it and I’m pretty sold. I have a 12 year old car and looking to upgrade end of year when the Santa fe is due. It wins for me cause of the hyrid option.
@TIOAviation9 ай бұрын
Great review! The one I've been waiting for!
@CarConfections9 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@kickswitus9 ай бұрын
Both! I got the calligraphy palisade my wife has the limited santa fe
@MyFriendsPodcast7 ай бұрын
The Santa Fe in my opinion is much better. The palisade just has that 2015 look that makes the Hyundais not appealing. The new design on the Santa Fe equipped with the tech and features is exactly what they needed. Just purchased ours and am loving it!
@i_flip_iphonesАй бұрын
i feel u the santa fe is more luxery for my tast
@MusabUddin9 ай бұрын
@carconfections Thanks a lot for your videos on Santa Fe 2024.....it is because of your detailed videos I bought my Cyber Sage SEL variant Santa Fe 2024 yesterday. Thank you
@CarGeek3609 ай бұрын
Congrats! I hope you enjoy it!
@CarConfections9 ай бұрын
Glad we could be of help! Enjoy the new ride!
@tahran57829 ай бұрын
Hyundai Santa Fe for me
@mikev57678 ай бұрын
I just went through this and bought the palisade night edition. There is not enough space behind the 3rd row of the Santa Fe.
@87_days_of_hell9 ай бұрын
Why is no one talking about/mentioning that the 2nd row in the sante fe doesn’t have its own climate control and is forced to be the same as the front row 😭
@CarlMathews-e4q9 ай бұрын
They did. In the beginning it says it has dual zone not three zone
@87_days_of_hell9 ай бұрын
Where can you time stamp it pls I couldn’t find it and in all sante fw reviews no one mentioned it I watched multiple
@CarlMathews-e4q9 ай бұрын
@@87_days_of_hellaround 8:20
@87_days_of_hell9 ай бұрын
@@CarlMathews-e4q oh thx your right but in all other reviews it wasn’t mentioned it’s very easy to not realize because when they go to the rear row they should’ve pointed it out.
@CarlMathews-e4q9 ай бұрын
@@87_days_of_hell You are right did not think about it that way at all
@noname-lu9hd9 ай бұрын
Just the Video i was looking for
@hassanwilridge20288 ай бұрын
love my Santa fe. white & black calligraphy look good 👍
@Swift_Jr7 ай бұрын
Santa Fe clears with the 2-2-2 seat arrangement 👍 (way more comfortable)
@CarGeek3609 ай бұрын
This video came a couple of days late lol, I was cross-shopping these 2 on the internet (but SEL versions) to see which one I wanted to recommend to my aunt and uncle for a potential new car purchase. I chose the Palisade and this video confirmed that I made the right decision. Don't get me wrong the new SantaFe is a fabulous product but I personally find the Palisade to be a more upscale vehicle (SantaFe is more modern however) and the Palisade has been out for some time meaning that the major issues have already been ironed out. I'd still be concerned about reliability with the new SantaFe. I do like the idea of a hybrid SantaFe however and I do find it to be the better looking vehicle of the two but the Palisade is more spacious and the SantaFe SEL lacks a power front passenger seat which the Palisade SEL comes with. I built a Palisade SEL with AWD yesterday and the MSRP was just under $43k which imo is a solid number for that SUV. The one element that made the choice tough was the SantaFe's supeirior fuel economy to the Palisade but the Palisade does treat us to a nice V6 over the SantaFe's 4 cylinder. Both are great cars however and it all comes down to personal preference but if you want something reliable the Palisade is the only way to go between these two. The Palisade has been out for 4 years meaning most of the major issues have been ironed out by now where as the SantaFe only came out recently.
@ericjudge58109 ай бұрын
Hyundai is definitely on to something with the Santa Fe BUT I just want to know who signed off on the back of it because it’s hideous back there.
@easter68829 ай бұрын
Fr that back shouldn’t even have been a thought.
@mannygonzalez41789 ай бұрын
Nah…
@CarGeek3609 ай бұрын
I felt the same way at 1st but honestly the back grew on it, honestly I really like the way the new SantaFe looks
@Jeez0019 ай бұрын
On the bright side no one is tailgate one of these in the road..
@CarGeek3609 ай бұрын
@@Jeez001 I wish this was actually true but sadly tailgaters are not gonna care what the back of your car looks like, they just want to be rude on the road
@ey56449 ай бұрын
I have the ‘24 black night calligraphy. Will trade that in, when the new Palisade body style comes out.
@mattdude9 ай бұрын
I’m willing to bet the palisade will get the new interior in the 2025 model. Then it will be interesting to see how they compare and what they ultimately do with it.
@rda94419 ай бұрын
I am waiting to see what the new Palisade will look like. My plan is to purchase one of these 2 for family of 4
@phillyspitta81479 ай бұрын
The back of the SF remind me of those damn 80s quirky Japanese minivans
@MiAnHu889 ай бұрын
Hyundai Santa Fe FTW
@CarGeek3609 ай бұрын
It is the cooler looking of the two
@MiAnHu889 ай бұрын
It'll be easy to trade in my 2019 when ready
@spymelon32Ай бұрын
We can expect an updated palisade soon, but for now i would take the santa fe, the interior looks surprisingly nice in brown
@johnherrera75517 күн бұрын
Palisade redesign for 2026 model year.
@hunterpierce24546 ай бұрын
I love your videos, always informative and enjoy your humor. Any idea when the Palisade will be "refreshed" as to (1) design, (2) technology and (3) hybrid options?
@CarConfections6 ай бұрын
Thank you! We are expecting a full redesign of the Palisade for the 2026 model year (so probably 10-12 months from now). It should be offered with a hybrid powertrain at that time.
@kungfulender87339 ай бұрын
I'll take the Santa fe
@CarGeek3609 ай бұрын
I find the Pallisade to be a more premium vehicle (on par with something like a MDX or Q7 for say) but the SantaFe does look cooler, I also love Hundayi's new KeyFob, all comes down to personal preference atp
@gamen809 ай бұрын
As soon as the Palisade is upgraded, then i will go for the Palisade next year. even without the upgrade i would go for the Palisade, but i have to save a little bit more before i can cash it, so better to wait till the 25 year modell comes out, or just an upgrade modell.
@Gordo23479 ай бұрын
So cool thanks for showing cars! ❤
@dosri9 ай бұрын
I prefer Hyundai Santa Fe as it's cool exterior design
@ciaraomalley87259 ай бұрын
I’m on my third Santa Fe and my 4th Hyundai. I have a Limited 2021 now and am struggling so hard with the design of the new 2024. I’m considering switching to the Pallisade this year!
@marinabrola11 күн бұрын
The biggest differences for me : Santa Fe better because= gas mileage Palisade better because = rear A/C vents in ceiling and from middle console for 2nd row passengers.
@jimpoole36226 ай бұрын
I like the Santa Fe - I would consider the Santa Fe to replace my current vehicle
@Shafaymustafa129 ай бұрын
Palisade vs grand highlander plz❤
@CarGeek3609 ай бұрын
That'd be a great comparison too
@CarConfections9 ай бұрын
Noted! Stay tuned!
@jeffvance12718 ай бұрын
Yes we need that one
@CarGeek3608 ай бұрын
@@jeffvance1271 for sure
@cortezmiller18998 ай бұрын
Santa Fe is for me!
@ryanfrisby73899 ай бұрын
Excellent comparison as always, hope you all had a nice Easter!!
@CarConfections9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, same to you!
@McGrogansSchool9 ай бұрын
Very nice review guys. Congrats.
@CarConfections9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@gqami9 ай бұрын
I'm seriously considering the Santa Fe, but we know you had your issue with yours and your transmission. How's that been going with your vehicle? Also, the controversial issue is really if you take the spare tire off the Land Rover, that's what Santa Fe is. Outside of that, I think the Santa Fe is the clear winner. Bolder and more modern, which will hold it's value longer, just by styling and tech alone. Reliability, from the manufacturing process, that's always up in the air, with any manufacturer post Covid. Most of them are terrible in build quality, but that's in all verticals of manufacturing. Great video nevertheless guys. Appreciate all that you do. I will be checking your invoice pricing tool in my market.
@brucejackson77507 ай бұрын
I will always like the Hyundai Palisades that is the SUV
@SusanMurphy-r2j8 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the Palisade Hybred
@DominionAnako-bb7ry9 ай бұрын
Love your video
@TimHysert9 ай бұрын
What about the double towing capability of the palisade!
@jourdantolentino9 ай бұрын
Palisade are very Korean Design while Santa Fe are very British design
@NicolasLaughs93209 ай бұрын
After this, make a comparison between the Kia Telluride and the Kia Sorento
@CarConfections9 ай бұрын
Noted!
@NicolasLaughs93209 ай бұрын
@@CarConfections thanks
@NicolasLaughs93209 ай бұрын
@@CarConfections Thank you! 🙂
@NicolasLaughs93207 ай бұрын
Where’s the comparison that I’ve been waiting for, Sorento vs Telluride?
@short5stick8 ай бұрын
I bought the Santa Fe limited edition but I sure do wish it had 18-in rims smoother ride. Don't have to worry about damaging the tires when my wife jumps curbs and it needs more functionality for the infotainment center on the steering wheel. Not enough buttons to do much with
@mannygonzalez41789 ай бұрын
What is the destination fee for??
@CarConfections9 ай бұрын
Destination is charged for the cost to ship the car from the factory to the destination where it will sell.
@short5stick8 ай бұрын
Just another gimmick to tack on more cost
@mannygonzalez41788 ай бұрын
@@short5stick that’s what I thought because what’s the point if it’s at the lot already unless you actually order it from another place.
@setsunaes4 ай бұрын
Well, the Santa Fe is all new, full of the latest tech. The Palisade is old now and even then is a beast of an Family SUV. Imagine if by 2025/26 Hyundai releases an All new Palisade. It will be freaking awesome (hope they keep the V6)
@kadie14149 ай бұрын
Helpful
@CarConfections9 ай бұрын
Glad we could help!
@MuzixMaker29 күн бұрын
50 large for a freaking Hyundai. What’s the world coming to?
@dandial37333 ай бұрын
It would be nice when you compare sound systems if you played the same music on both samples.
@awasakjadib91409 ай бұрын
You guys are best when comes to compare .. probably Santa Fe will be my next target 😊
@CarConfections9 ай бұрын
Thank you, friend!
@franklananna96848 ай бұрын
I’m going to see if there is a difference in the lease ,they both look great
@familia2k8 ай бұрын
did you find out if there is a difference for leasing? I am looking to lease
@paulonvula64954 ай бұрын
Santa Fe for me. Feels more modern and future proof, design wise. Palisade already has a look of an outdated design and on the sides at the back end it looks like two cars fitted together, it lacks coherence from front to back. Whereas Santa Fe, in spite of its length, has a unified and cohesive appearance throughout, presenting itself as a singular, harmonious design in spite of its robust look."
@jeffvance12718 ай бұрын
When they both become available to test drive the new gen 2024 Chevy Traverse vs the 2025 Refreshed Ford Explorer is a comparison you guys must do! That would be a very interesting show down…
@CarConfections8 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@GarlandTexasSpotter20249 ай бұрын
Make a comparison of the odyssey elite vs Pilot elite pls!!
@CarConfections9 ай бұрын
Noted! Thanks for the suggestion!
@andreaandrade5345 ай бұрын
I would like you guys to make a review of the Volkswagen Atlas! I rented this SUV and it was amazing! Which brand 3rd row suv is the best?
@CarConfections5 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3-TepaMhblkjqssi=nPP5OYruBCVgJLjb this will be helpful for you 👍
@britto18443 ай бұрын
The Atlas is beautiful and roomy. I test drove one, but logically, when I looked at the Santa fe hybrid gas mileage compared to buying premium for the Atlas, the amazing tech on the Santa Fe, warranty and 3 yrs service free...I had to go with hyundai
@andresmattos75419 ай бұрын
Toyota Transmission Complaints to NHTSA The variety of transmission complaints related to these Toyota vehicles have not yet triggered a safety recall from the NHTSA, which regulates auto safety in the US. If enough similar complaints do eventually arise, the NHTSA would initiate an investigation to determine a cause and enforce a resolution from Toyota. That has not happened to date, however. As an example of the types of complaints Toyota owners are making, here’s a closer look at the 2018 Toyota Sienna on the NHTSA website. Some owners report that the vehicle fails to accelerate when they depress the gas pedal, which could potentially create a safety hazard when merging onto a freeway. Owners also report that the 2018 Toyota Sienna will randomly decelerate when cornering. Numerous owners have complained that the issue only happens when “Eco” mode is engaged, and lament the fact that there is no way to turn this feature off.
@Jwkennedy11249 ай бұрын
You didn’t mention one of the biggest differentiating facts about these two. Only the Santa Fe has wireless CarPlay.
@CarConfections9 ай бұрын
The Santa Fe was given points for both its better software and wireless abilities at around 9:30
@johnJohn-dz4ex5 ай бұрын
We currently have both in the Calligraphy trims, the SF feels bigger but it's not, the Palisade feels more plush but it's not, I believe besides the exterior the design of the SF was meant to look and feel like the Palisade, the 26 Palisade refresh will have to be bigger and just completely separate it from the SF, right now they are too close in ride, tech and finish.
@jeancm.149 ай бұрын
Palisade❤
@pisipisi50718 ай бұрын
Dual clutch is a no go.
@short5stick8 ай бұрын
I wonder if a dual clutch will last 130,000 mi without any problems before it's worn out. I think they know if it makes it to 100 it won't make it past that much more
@pisipisi50718 ай бұрын
@@short5stick depends how you drive it. If you drive soft you probably get more miles on it. If you use manual shifts and drive aggressively then expect much earlier.
@amg500sl56 ай бұрын
Got that cool green Calligraphy for my wife . She loved. But just because is the calligraphy model with AWD . There is no better option then this. We will both buy this car in Basic Model because are very plain and don't have all those crazy futures like calligraphy
@jeremysomeone9 ай бұрын
The recall Queens together.
@alphanerdgames94175 ай бұрын
If you are under 35 get the Santa Fe. Over 35 palisade.
@joewozniak22318 ай бұрын
Santa Fe largely cause it’s cheaper and comes in a hybrid.
@lss-jprep49809 ай бұрын
I think the Santa Fe wins at the XRT or SEL level. The XRT needs the 360 camera added to be an overwhelming value. The engine is fast but somewhat unrefined and the DCT tranny makes no sense. It’s simply not a $50k vehicle. The Palisade, at the Limited level, is around $47k before any discounts. V6 and a reliable tranny make it the clear winner. Guessing that Palisade redo will result in a minimum $5k increase to every model when it happens.
@davepicken38676 ай бұрын
I just purchased 2024 Palisade Calligraphy - traded in a 2023 Highlander hybrid and before that, a 2018 Lexus RX350. The palisade is the best of the lot but a great deal! So comfortable- luxury feel and strong warranty. I wanted to go back to a gasser! The Palisade is soooo much more vehicle than the over priced Lexus RX350.
@jimmyboy25289 ай бұрын
Is that new OS in the 2024 Telluride as well?
@CarConfections9 ай бұрын
Not yet, it should be come the next major update
@0311nate9 ай бұрын
Compare the new 3 row traverse with the Santa Fe.
@stevensmith90014 ай бұрын
The Santa Fe looks nice with the Matt finish but the back is to boxy and squared off which I don’t like at all.
@gamerboy3.0578 ай бұрын
Palisade's front view look like venue 😂
@bigal259385 ай бұрын
Go get a a Toyota. We had bad experiences with our sante fe and the biggest part was warranty. It sounds good until you need to use it.
@liaqatkhan55217 ай бұрын
Palisade is far better than Santa Fe, no comparison.
@yankeesusa16 күн бұрын
The Santa Fe drives really great and has so many features but the reliability compared to the long running Palisade is not good. Unless you're paying less or leading it, it'll be a gamble for sure. Just look at what happened on this channel.
@Car_conversati0nz9 ай бұрын
Palisade
@CarGeek3609 ай бұрын
Yeah I was researching both and am going to suggest the Pallisade to my aunt and uncle for their next car, I built a Pallisade yesterday and sent it to my cousin who loved the interior, they like the new MDX but it's out of their budget
@Car_conversati0nz9 ай бұрын
@@CarGeek360 that sounds good. Palisade is a good car with nice features for the price
@CarGeek3609 ай бұрын
@@Car_conversati0nz oh for sure, the trim level I’m recommending is the SEL AWD without the premium pkg which has a MSRP of $42,795, it really is a solid product for the money, and I’m not concerned about reliability as the Pallisade has been out for 4 years meaning most of the major issues have already been ironed out
@stevencooper64399 ай бұрын
The santa fe looks like it was designed with legos. It also comes in the four trims with no package options as with all hyundai vehicles which is a huge let down. Hopefully once the 2025 comes things change slightly I love santa fe
@skhwj4 ай бұрын
Damn Santa fe got me looking until they showed the back…. That shit messed it all up
@kingcraftgames.9857 ай бұрын
These are really good choices for a 3-row SUV, but here's my question, "why should i buy a santa fe when i can buy a palisade which does LITERALLY the same thing".
@youllnevergetmynumbr5 ай бұрын
Money.
@jaystrong77933 ай бұрын
Sante Fe limited or Calligraphy until palisade does new design
@lauraroxanne229 ай бұрын
I love my Palisade, especially with the blacked out grill. I don’t really care for the chrome look of the calligraphy. I need the size of the Palisade, and wouldn’t choose the Santa Fe.
@jraheemjefcoat4299 ай бұрын
DeFender Sport aka Santa Fe!
@chrisgray42399 ай бұрын
Santa Fe designer will be looking for a new job in 6 months...
@carp3608 ай бұрын
Those seats are good for slim people only! I tried them all and they are terrible for a long rides.
@NTE_Garage_Talks9 ай бұрын
Santafe is almost like a child of an old ford flex.
@josephpayton91519 ай бұрын
Despite the santa fe’s impressive features, I like the palisade better. My parents and I all like the palisade better. The size and look of it is something we really liked about it. The santa fe in my eyes is so odd looking to me. Especially in the back and then it looks like its squatting which im not a fan of.
@NTE_Garage_Talks9 ай бұрын
Backside view of santafe is a design disaster atleast for a few people
@UTeewb9 ай бұрын
I swear Hyundai went out their way to design the ugliest key possible for the sante fe. It's even worse in person. I hope the digital key works well!
@fabianbeverly38499 ай бұрын
The price is too close
@RAZOR604733 ай бұрын
Palisade it is
@ponchoman499 ай бұрын
The Palisade is light years better looking
@FordEnthusiast4139 ай бұрын
Palisades is better for two reasons: 3.8L V6 and 8 speed automatic. I think both are better than the 2.5 L Turbo and DCT.
@short5stick8 ай бұрын
I bought one and that's the only thing I'm concerned with is the transmission. Why couldn't they stuck an 8-speed or a 9-speed automatic traditional? I don't get it. They would have sold. Probably double the vehicles with a traditional automatic
@vulcan4d9 ай бұрын
Ditch th 1.6L hybrid for a 2.5L hybrid. What a crap engine.
@bpaulm9 ай бұрын
Palisade exterior design is going to hold up a lot better than the Santa Fe. 5 years from now i think we will be viewing SF the same way we look at Ford flex or pt cruiser. Novelty.
@TechT19994 ай бұрын
I like both but the Palisade with old tech , no power folding mirrors c'mon now Hyundai! If I had to choose between these the i would get the Palisade symplity because of the towing compacity. I have a boat and need the towing. I am still comparing the Palisade against the Telluride which I am liking more. I love the tan or brown interior colors. Nothing wrong with beige interior though.
@3am_3am_9 ай бұрын
One for the living, the other for the dead.
@m4st3rm1nd99 ай бұрын
The back of Santa Fe is no good. Taillights are too low to he ground.
@mares18297 ай бұрын
Major Transmission Issues… DO NOT BUY! Especially not from ThunderBay Ontario… very dishonest company very dishonest management. Make sure you read your contract.