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Cardinal Joseph Zen says Cardinal Fernandez has written heresy, he must resign or be dismissed!

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Mark Lambert

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In this video I share new comments from Cardinal Zen on Fiducia Supplicans taken from his blog here: oldyosef.hkdav...
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Summary
Cardinal Zen, the former Cardinal of Hong Kong, has been outspoken about the dangers of the Chinese Communist Party and the Vatican's understanding of China. There is a growing concern about the direction of the Vatican under Pope Francis, particularly regarding its praise of communism and the synergy between Catholic social teaching and communism. Fiducia Supplicants, a statement from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, has caused confusion and controversy within the Church. Cardinal Zen criticizes the statement for its lack of clarity and its potential to create division and undermine church doctrine. There is a need for bishops to debate and reach unanimous conclusions on these issues.
Chapters
00:00
Introduction and Cardinal Zen's Background
04:21
The German Church and Progressive Ideology
06:09
Growing Concerns about the Vatican's Direction
07:34
Issues with the Synod and Synodality
08:33
The Jubia and the Response from the Cardinals
09:28
The Release of Fiducia Supplicants
10:55
The Synod and Synodality as a Fig Leaf
11:18
Cardinal Zen's Blog and Translation Issues
12:20
Analysis of the Title 'Fiducia Supplicans'
13:49
Clarifications on Fiducia Supplicants
15:08
Cardinal Zen's Critique of Fiducia Supplicants
19:23
The Problematic Language of Fiducia Supplicants
20:24
The Lack of Clarity in Fiducia Supplicants
24:45
The Confusion Created by Fiducia Supplicants
28:42
The Impact on Families and the Church's Unity
30:27
The Dismissal of Good Priests and the Promotion of Controversial Figures
33:42
The Seriousness of the Doctrinal Errors
35:07
The Need for Bishops to Debate and Reach Unanimous Conclusions
40:46
Discussion on Fernandez's Legacy and Problematic Ideas

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@RosWeeks
@RosWeeks 7 ай бұрын
Cardinal Zen is a fearless warrior for God's Way, God's Truth and God's Life. He is a saint. Pray for him... 🙏🙏🙏
@nildarodriguez3974
@nildarodriguez3974 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, Cardinal Zen.
@janetoconnor3636
@janetoconnor3636 7 ай бұрын
How about BOTH Cardinal Fernandez and Francis resign and or be dismissed. Francis knew about the both of the porn books when he made the Cardinal the head of the CCD last July.
@chase6579
@chase6579 7 ай бұрын
Or maybe a lot of catholics should repent of their slander?
@anthonynguyen5879
@anthonynguyen5879 7 ай бұрын
100% agree
@flaviomanderioli643
@flaviomanderioli643 7 ай бұрын
But who gave Fernandez the 2nd most important job in the Catholic Church?! Truly both should go!!!
@user-eu8ub9cm5t
@user-eu8ub9cm5t 6 ай бұрын
Very true
@earthangel3234
@earthangel3234 7 ай бұрын
I say the Holy Face of Jesus Christ Devotion and I have been doing it everyday for more than a year. We have enemies in high places, internal enemies. I strongly suggest this powerful devotion. "Arise O Lord and let your enemies be scattered and let all of those that hate You flee from before Your Face."
@patriciagrenier9082
@patriciagrenier9082 7 ай бұрын
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@earthangel3234
@earthangel3234 7 ай бұрын
@@sA-ny2jl Some YT channels have the prayers. The Golden Arrow prayer is a part of the devotion. The Catholic Crusade have the Litany of the Holy Face and the Chaplet of the Holy Face of Jesus. I say the chaplet with Father Carney of the Fatima Channel. God bless you. and keep on praying 🙏 🙏
@johnjoyce1958
@johnjoyce1958 7 ай бұрын
I agree with Cardinal Zen. Fernandez must be removed and The Pope should be asked to resign by The College of Cardinals if he doesn't recind Fiducia Supplicans, as he allowed it to be drafted and even signed off on it.
@kimlersue
@kimlersue 7 ай бұрын
Thank You Father Zen. Jesus is the "Way, the Truth, and the Life." W/o the truth there is no light..w/o the light there is no way home to him! We the sheep need good Shepherds! Communism takes away individual free will. Free will is most important to God!
@lightinlondon8168
@lightinlondon8168 7 ай бұрын
Bergoglio should resign too.
@bernadettekavanagh9984
@bernadettekavanagh9984 7 ай бұрын
Who would replace him, though?
@artstocker60
@artstocker60 7 ай бұрын
If the Church were properly governed, Fernández would be dismissed. But, since it is now not properly governed, spreading heresy wins you promotion.
@bthemedia
@bthemedia 7 ай бұрын
That’s a fair assessment
@patriciagrenier9082
@patriciagrenier9082 7 ай бұрын
May GOD BLESS YOU, Cardinal ZEN❤ AMEN ❤ MOTHER PLEASE COVER HIM WITH YOUR MANTLE, protect him from this miserably evil pope.
@aseeker2109
@aseeker2109 7 ай бұрын
For the Church... 🙏🙏🙏
@tomthx5804
@tomthx5804 7 ай бұрын
One of the things that theologians and judges learn very quickly that you cannot make a rule that contradicts other, already existing rules. The whole of the faith, and the law, must be internally consistent. You cannot make up a rule for gay couples, and then leave it at that. Fernandez apparently, because of incompetence, made up a rule on blessings for "irregular couples". But in his mind, this only covered gay unions and divorced and remarried. He never bothered to think about other sinful relationships (lets face it, "irregular" really means sinful). So Mark is right to ask what about incestuous couples, what about serial child abusers, what about every other kind of sin. Because Fernandez is incompetent, he never even considered these questions. He viewed his job as getting the church to start blessing sin, and nothing was going to stop him. Fernandez does not even address the questions about violating Holy Scripture, conflicts with scripture, or conflict with all other Catholic teaching. He just did not care, because he is incompetent.
@finallythere100
@finallythere100 7 ай бұрын
They did that with the New Mass … and with Modernism.
@tomthx5804
@tomthx5804 7 ай бұрын
Dear Cardinal Fernandez: As the Beatles said. "Your lips are moving, I cannot hear Your voice is soothing, but the words aren't clear You do sound different, I've learned the game I'm looking through you, you're not the same"
@SwiftRead
@SwiftRead 7 ай бұрын
Hey Mark ~ great report ~ if the video stream that you're playing freezes-up next time, simply scroll back a bit on the vid & it should play back at a smoother rate. Gremlins within & out of the Church. Cheers bro !
@simonewilliams7224
@simonewilliams7224 7 ай бұрын
Someone said… it’s all “word salad”from the Pope and the Curia.
@bthemedia
@bthemedia 7 ай бұрын
Semantic sophistry, blessing the couple but not the union - is a distinction without a difference.
@user-em4xb3xh9b
@user-em4xb3xh9b 7 ай бұрын
The sound is missing on video clip with Gavin Ashenden. Thanks for all of your research Mark and your wise, calm well thought through reflection on the storm we are witnessing it the church. You are a rock, as is Gavin Ashenden, to which many of us in the church cling for hope in seeing through this fog of confusion and false teaching. Thank you so much for your sincerity, honesty, integrity and for sharing your knowledge of the true magisterium historically.
@marklambert5232
@marklambert5232 7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your kind and encouraging comments!
@jmjrosary4697
@jmjrosary4697 7 ай бұрын
Listen to this...Fernandez nickname is Tucho which means MONKEY as in ape of the Church...the counter Church Bishop Fulton Sheen wrote about the ape of the Church. A sign ? Yes, thank you Jesus for your Signs that help confirm TRUTH.
@user-sd6yu1xs4g
@user-sd6yu1xs4g 7 ай бұрын
Mark, ......If it doesn't specify:- it doesn't specify! whats not to understand....very easy, very simple.
@Dtd2483
@Dtd2483 7 ай бұрын
Well if Fernandez has written heresy, then Bergoglio signed off on it, so that makes a heretic pope
@videos_iwonderwhy
@videos_iwonderwhy 7 ай бұрын
You cannot call the pope heretical because of a magisterial teaching, and remain catholic.
@bthemedia
@bthemedia 7 ай бұрын
36:56 Looks like the audio feed from the video you played did not get recorded. Thank you for the link in the description!
@henryvonblumenthal7307
@henryvonblumenthal7307 7 ай бұрын
Once the Pope has affixed his signature, it is he who is responsible for the content of the document, not the person or persons who drafted it.
@Mark3ABE
@Mark3ABE 7 ай бұрын
The official version of Fiducia Supplicans, as it appears on the Vatican web site, records that it was signed by Cardinal Fernandez and counter signed by the Secretary of the Dicastery. Then, at the foot of the document, is a memorandum of a meeting which took place with the Pope. It is therefore assumed that Cardinal Fernandez discussed the document, generally, or specifically, with the Pope before he signed it. The Pope did not, in fact, append his own signature to the document. However, the memorandum at the foot is intended to give it authority, by recording that Cardinal Fernandez did meet with the Pope before he (Cardinal Fernandez) signed it.
@harrietl2869
@harrietl2869 7 ай бұрын
The cardinals who picked Pope Francis and the cardinals and any clergy Pope Francis choose should be forced to retire
@donaldlippert6374
@donaldlippert6374 7 ай бұрын
The titles for these documents are usually the first few words of the document.
@marcelw6045
@marcelw6045 7 ай бұрын
Fiducia Supplicans translates to “Faith/Trust entreating/supplicating” the second word is a participle modifying the noun.
@arthurlong9756
@arthurlong9756 7 ай бұрын
Sorry could not hear last interview
@user-sd6yu1xs4g
@user-sd6yu1xs4g 7 ай бұрын
Maybe, the gang in the vat. will make it mandatory for everyone to 'dance around naked round a pole'. I just can't wait!.....
@bernadettekavanagh9984
@bernadettekavanagh9984 7 ай бұрын
What a revolting thought, naturally I for one will flatly refuse.
@user-sd6yu1xs4g
@user-sd6yu1xs4g 7 ай бұрын
Come On Bernie Don't be so Rigid Dance .... smile its only a little fun....- cheers@@bernadettekavanagh9984
@Mark3ABE
@Mark3ABE 7 ай бұрын
I once read an account from a journalist who had been sent to write an article on what it is like in a nudist colony. He concluded that clothes are not, primarily, designed to keep prying eyes out, but to keep wobbly bits in. His main objection was that nudism was impractical. It takes little imagination to see why this would be so for those dancing around a flag pole. There would be a lot of wobbly bits wobbling about in a most disagreeable fashion.
@simonewilliams7224
@simonewilliams7224 7 ай бұрын
First I’ve heard of Cardinal Zen’s document coming forward, thank you. It’s sad though that so many Cardinals and Bishops are not saying anything out of fear of retribution from the Pope. If they would just come together with their refusal to go along with the Pope’s and Fernandez’s complicity to push this (something so against Church Teaching of the Abomination of these sins) through; they could stop them cold. BUT By their being silent or accepting of F. Supplicans they are also complicit.
@oliverclark5604
@oliverclark5604 7 ай бұрын
Fiducia Supplicans, 18 Dec 23 is on the reference point of the keeping in uncertainty of belief by Mary in her particular circumstances in present moment real presence of the inseparability and qualitative equality of her consents to be joined in consecrated marriages, celibate (Lk 1:38: "let it be to me") and immediately successive male female (Mt 1:24: "Joseph ... took his wife").
@earthgirl369
@earthgirl369 7 ай бұрын
last bit was inaudible
@tomthx5804
@tomthx5804 7 ай бұрын
You really should correct the title of this video. Zen has not declared that Fernandez has written heresy. Zen asks the question "has Fernandez written heresy?". These are two quite different things.
@adelbom-o
@adelbom-o 7 ай бұрын
He went on to explain how what fernandez wrote was heresy 😂😂😂he asked if incest couples can be blessed or pedophile couples can't they be blessed as well. If all these are possible then the sin doesn't exist anymore for Fernandez 😂😂😂
@michaelhaywood8262
@michaelhaywood8262 7 ай бұрын
I hope the next Pope will be an African. I have for a long time believed that the future of the Catholic Church is in sub-Saharan Africa. I hope that one day African missionaries will come to re-evangelise Europe [including Britain and Ireland] and North America. The Parish I attend in St Leonards has several African families who regularly attend, two of them very active. FYI I'm a white Brit.[St Leonards is in on the south coast of England in the county of East Sussex, it is about 62 miles/99km from London]. I have a question re irregular relationships:- are the following invalid in the Church or merely illicit:- Marriages between first cousins A marriage between a widow and her dead husband's brother A marriage between a widower and his dead wife's sister.
@sandraelder1101
@sandraelder1101 7 ай бұрын
We can’t hear the interview
@nildarodriguez3974
@nildarodriguez3974 7 ай бұрын
Your audio drops towards the of your podcast.
@chase6579
@chase6579 7 ай бұрын
That's ironic... accusing the Holy See of heresy... I'll take the side of the magisterium every time. Especially since every single time these slander are uttered, I go and look at the original source and find that it in fact isn't heretical in the least... accusing the magisterium of heresy on the other hand... anathemas have been issued to patriarchs for that.
@vasiliossmith2616
@vasiliossmith2616 7 ай бұрын
Return to the one Holy catholic Apostolic Church of the Holy Fathers and the Ecumenical council's decision Since 1054 thr Pope and Rome have fallen into Hersey
@tomthx5804
@tomthx5804 7 ай бұрын
Invade any good countries lately?
@roytofilovski9530
@roytofilovski9530 7 ай бұрын
​@@tomthx5804Sheesh, when it comes to doing fucked up stuff you Catholics own the gold, silver AND bronze. Your religion should be banned, frankly.
@sissybrooks8588
@sissybrooks8588 7 ай бұрын
Please elaborate.
@Mark3ABE
@Mark3ABE 7 ай бұрын
Can the Church survive without a direct connection to the Apostles? If we look at Protestantism, we see a great many believers with a strong personal faith which, if founded solely on the Sacred Scriptures, necessarily closely resembles the Catholic Church, since it was the Catholic Church which decided upon the Canon of the Sacred Scriptures. So, fidelity to the Sacred Scriptures does, necessarily, involve a certain degree of fidelity to the successors of the Apostles who assembled the Sacred Scriptures and confirmed their reliability. So, to this limited extent, Protestant Churches are “apostolic”. However, as we know, without any current apostolic authority, they have divided so often that there are now tens of thousands of distinct Protestant sects, in addition to innumerable “non denominational Churches”. By comparison, the Eastern Orthodox Churches, which have maintained a continuity in terms of apostolic succession, have retained an essential degree of unity. While they do, of course, squabble with each other over administrative matters and there are, I understand, one or two minor disagreements on the finer points of dogma, they do, essentially, still believe and teach what the Apostles believed and taught. So, it would appear that it is apostolic succession which determines whether a Church can survive or not. Is the Bishop of Rome an essential feature as far as an Apostolic Church is concerned? Well, clearly, it was always the Lord’s intention that all of the successors of the Apostles should remain in perfect unity, so, to at least some extent, the Eastern Orthodox Churches must retain a degree of spiritual unity with the Bishop of Rome, who must, in a similar way, retain a degree of spiritual unity with the Bishops and Patriarchs of the Eastern Churches. However, the position of the Eastern Orthodox Churches is much more Scriptural. When Jesus said to the Apostles “He who hears you, hears me” he was addressing all of the Apostles together. The Eastern Orthodox Church believes that an Ecumenical Council must include all of the successors of the Apostles. As a result, the Eastern Churches do not recognise any Ecumenical Council which took place after 1054. To some extent this does protect them from error. There is no Eastern “Pope” who can hijack the Church and use his supreme authority to introduce error and heresy into the Church. This does give rise to the question as to whether a Pope, or further Ecumenical Councils were ever really necessary, since, from 1054 up to the present day, the Eastern Orthodox Churches have stood relatively secure without the need for these institutions to support and maintain them. The Council of Trent, for example, was mainly called for the purpose of refuting Protestant errors and asserting the traditional teachings of the Church. In the Eastern Orthodox Churches, which never had a “Reformation” there is nothing in the teachings of the Council of Trent which directly affects or concerns them. Then, when it comes to dogmas such as the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption, the Eastern Orthodox Churches would not consider these to be in any way contrary to the teaching of the Apostolic Church and so they could believe in these dogmas, if they wish. Certainly, they have never sought to contradict or deny these dogmatic definitions - they simply take the view that they simply make more formal what was already implicit in the existing teachings of the Church. The present “difficulties” in Rome do tend to raise these issues and force us to consider just what is necessary to constitute a genuine “Apostolic” Church.
@aseeker2109
@aseeker2109 7 ай бұрын
Dr Ashenden conversation not audible
@marianmccann4617
@marianmccann4617 7 ай бұрын
No sound on Gavins interview
@papadan3
@papadan3 7 ай бұрын
smells to me like judas’s thought to give to the poor while dissing the supreme God. Judas missed the point until after the betrayal.. this papacy is blinded by their own self interested chaos.
@JamesPetrycia-zj7yq
@JamesPetrycia-zj7yq 7 ай бұрын
Tehe is no Pope named Francis! The Church is split between the Chuch of Christ and church of Francis, Apostasy!
@ericschilling9757
@ericschilling9757 7 ай бұрын
Worrying about the exact translation of something in theology is a total waste of time. Instead of doing that, please try to act like Jesus and try to increase the amount of love in the world, and forgiveness, and tolerance, and charity. Please. Otherwise you're only increasing the amount of problems in the world.
@YTChiefCritic
@YTChiefCritic 7 ай бұрын
You should put a little zest in your voice - you're sending me to sleep!
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