Cardo vs Sena - Best Motorcycle Communication Systems of 2018

[@Dsparky121]

I’m 22 seconds in, and this is already my favorite episode of Letterkenny

[@Bankston94]

Luke Scheer I saw this prior to seeing letterkenny and now after seeing it... I have a whole new appreciation for this.

[@therealpewpew2532]

@@Bankston94 SAME.

[@nadrojfan]

22 seconds in and I'm still not sure after watching twice if this is in English! 🤦

[@utkarshrao4521]

🤣🤣

[@sheltonnephin5302]

You're a honest fellow and that what I appreciates about you

[@fightingcorsair7297]

Is that what you appreciate about him?

[@averagejer]

Take about 20% off there Shelton.

[@TheTypeRTheory]

The honesty in these reviews blows all the other bullshit fluff reviews on KZbin out of the water. Fantastic.

[@ridin_low193]

GASLIGHT it’s not so much the honest review... well that’s half of it, but more so that he knows what he’s talking about. Well at least it REALLY seems like he did his homework lol.

[@TheTypeRTheory]

Diego Alvarez I guess it helps when the reviewer has actually used the products :D

[@biker1581]

absolutely!!!!!!!!!!! AND HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, lastly, it's damn funny and sarcastic ,,,,, love every bit

[@MoneerAl-Jawad]

Totally agree dude. This guy is awesome and exposing a lot of that bullshit fake KZbin vids.

[@cruisingprimate1072]

This is an old gold, made me lol Need a 2019 update!

[@mbirth]

Yes, with something about how the 30K mesh can break away into two smaller meshes if the wrong person leaves the group. Or how the Packtalk Slim is not that comfortable if you have multiple helmets and want to switch between them.

[@32carus]

@@mbirth Wouldn't it be a problem for all comms, not just the Packtalk Slim?

[@mbirth]

@@32carus The "big" Packtalk has a helmet mount where you attach the actual comm unit to. So if you have multiple helmets, you just buy more of these mounts (~$50-70) and attach the base unit to whatever helmet you want to use with one click. The Packtalk Slim isn't detachable. You could maybe fiddle around with the microphone/headphone connections, but you'd have to do cable management afterwards and also I'm not sure how sturdy that microphone connector actually is.

[@Juuul89]

Ther'e no reason to, neither has come with a new product. Cardo's still on top

[@Keka-vg3ut]

@@mbirth that's also what I thought but if you're like most people who have one bike or more likely one helmet if your 2nd bike isn't a Enduro it's not a problem But it's definitely a consideration I didn't understand why the comm and the microphone and headphones aren't seperated but I guess otherwise no one would buy the bold

[@listofromantics]

FortNine has, consistently, some of the best / funniest review videos on KZbin.

[@Eulsam_FZ]

My favourite is still when he put the wig on to be King Joffrey

[@Visian]

Nero Wolfe I think they try too hard to be funny and it compromises the clarity of their work

[@Bob-Maplethorpe]

@@Visian that's why you watch them twice, eh. Hose bag!

[@irvingcuevas8877]

Now that's a knee slapper!

[@TheGholiday]

So it’s the Cardo slim?

[@johntaylor1341]

Great video review! I use to be a hard core Sena guy but now I am a Cardo guy. I use comms almost every day with either my woman or with friends. Last I had from Sena was the 30k and also the older 20s but only because others also had Sena comm units. I thought the Sena worked rather well but then somebody told me to try out the new Cardo PackTalk Bold series. So my lady and I sold our 30k set after watching videos and reading reviews. Just an FYI, we honestly think the 20s were better then the 30k. Anyway, we bought the new Packtalk Bold duo set. All I can say is bravo to Cardo! For starters the two Cardo Packtalk bold comm units were already meshed together out of the box, so they were ready to use instantly and we did use them instantly with no changes or updates on the first day. I love the fact that they are completely silent if nobody is talking, like seriously just plain no road noise and nothing until someone speaks (at first thought they were broke, lol). The app is awesome too, but almost too many features and let's not get into all of the voice commands too, lol. I could rave about many other things but let's just say Cardo won my lady and I over to Cardo from Sena. Oh and Yes you can get a Cardo PackTalk bold to talk to a Sena 30k too. Cardo has been around a long time tons of Harley riders use them daily. Just an FYI, our local rider groups are mostly sport bike riders, so with any comm unit they can get noisy after 100mph, but for cruising the Cardo is super quiet.

[@MOTOTREK]

Great unbiased review, Ryan. Well shot too!

[@FortNine]

Thanks buddy!

[@kogasoldier9379]

You did not just do a letterkenny parody. Omfg! 😂

[@ShaneTheMan777]

koga soldier I love it 😂😂😂

[@jlaurcrocker]

Brilliant

[@truthmefree]

But he did it even better. HILARIOUS!!!

[@andrewcelo5099]

just saw the video. more letterkenney, please.

[@Jehty_]

Just wanted to say thank you and thank FortNine for introducing me to Letterkenny. Haven't laughed that much in quite a while.

[@FortNine]

Happy Canada Day, eh. Also happy 4th of July... we have that day in Canada too! ~RF9

[@JK-qj9qp]

FortNine Hope you had a great 4th! How's the speaker quality and loudness on the Cardo slim compared to a Sena 10S?

[@mattimusreximus]

Just amazing, well done.

[@LTT.Official]

I didn't know Canada has a day aye, sorry aboot that, please don't call the mounties.

[@FortNine]

+Tommy Gun Identical, as far as my ears can tell. ~RF9

[@ADVRaiderKTM]

At the rate we are going, most sane Americans will be moving to Canada and celebrating the Canada day instead of the 4th....

[@pnoyryder68]

Best comparison of the 2 leading comm units by far 👏. Now if they can only all play nice and create an "indiscriminate" mesh system that accepts all regardless of race, creed, motorcycle brand etc..then we'll all be winners! Hope you get a chance to review the upcoming 50s series from Sena this year (their answer to Cardos' Pactalk)

[@road_king_dude]

😂😂 👏

[@crazykaspmovies]

letterkenny, nice reference

[@FortNine]

Speedy spot. ~RF9

[@Bandy64]

“To be fair” , I like and use the Cardo.

[@Benzal82]

Just watched it for the first time... Brilliant lol

[@militantaudacity378]

my guys

[@matthewfasl6000]

A bit less reference and a tad more homage ;) But whatever you call it, damn good review as always.

[@ryannagy3627]

I am always blown away by how fantastic every single video from Fortnine is! No matter what the content they keep it funny, engaging, honest and informative! I hope they never stop!!! :)

[@dillonchadsteinke]

Most Canadian review ever. Figer it out bud!

[@FortNine]

Yeah, figer it oot. ~RF9

[@oklahomahank2378]

Eh? Hoser! Meet up at Tim Horton’s.

[@meder07]

Timmies! Best worst coffee but a Canadian icon so grab your double -double and ride on!

[@uxthcman]

can we get an update to this vid for 2022 plz

[@alphatimca6656]

24

[@pritkapadia9501]

2024

[@ciccorilla]

2024??????

[@badshoes]

2024

[@snackz1026]

Yes I agree 2024

[@caprimaniac01]

I did buy the Cardo Packtalk Slim after seeing many videos, and especially this one, end of a August 2018. This unit worked more or less fine (although I had to factory reset it twice and the comm setup with others was a challenge ) for a month an a half, until it simply died. Drove to the office in the morning and had the thing turned on (so working fine), just to not be able to turn it back on for the way back home. Sent it back to the reseller and got a new one. Mounted it, set it up. Worked fine for the first 200km (it was pouring down), then its artificial intelligence came to life. Functions that weren't triggered did spontaneously activate (like the radio) unable to shut these down. Communication with the mobile phone, the TomTom and the other fellow riders, who I was leading fir a 1600km Tour continued to break up. Until I only heard the radio on which no station was neither selected nor selectable, so just some white noise. Did I mention that the Cardo did no longer respond to any keys commands and that I couldn't switch the unit off? Arrived at the very first hotel (after detaching the speakers because of the radio noise I couldn't turn off) I let the Cardo die of battery (because you cannot unplug the battery) before recharging it in order to do a factory reset. It kept working for yet another 2 hours before having again comm issues. Factory Reset. Not much of an improvement. So I decided to turn it off and let it turned off for the remaining 1000km. Arrived at home I unmounted everything and sent it straight back to the reseller for a refund. I will never buy Cardo again.

[@megacitygu8356]

I bought three Cardo units to communicate with another rider and my pillion. Endless issues with connectivity. I was only ever able to speak to my pillion once, despite factory resets, Bluetooth resets etc. Switched to Sena and problems solved. It’s telling that Schuberth and Shoei switched from Cardo to Sena ...

[@Hacky2447]

Not a single “figure it out..” but still my most fav video yet.

[@AntiParallali]

LMAO This is the best thing on the internet. I have the 20S now (used to have the Sena SMH5) and honestly, I'm not that impressed. Sound quality is worse on the 20S (imo) than on their 1947 model, the SMH5. I was thinking about upgrading to the Evo thinking that it might be better but after seeing this video I think I will have to give Cardo a try. I didn''t even know about Cardo until this video, so THANK YOU! :D

[@HenriqueSpagnol]

I love your Instagram! Keep the great work!

[@DFWKen]

Go to Cardo. I did 2 years ago. Communications between up to 6 of us riding/touring buddies was a huge relief after putting up with Sena for 3 years. We got tired of the Sena 20S drumbeat/popcorn sounds that absolutely drove us crazy on 3 trips with 20S units. My whole group changed over.

[@ostmen_draugr]

Sena SMH (shake my head) lol

[@AntiParallali]

pyruleanfire demon LOL! Yeah I agree...

[@ADVRaiderKTM]

"1947 model" hahahahahah

[@carlosebner5852]

The editor/director of this thing is a freaking genious!

[@motorcityoctane6713]

My communication system 🖐️= Wave for letting me merge ✌️ = Low peace sign to my fellow riders 🖕 = To cars that don't pay attention & drive me off the road

[@Hebron666]

The Letterkenny homage just made me love this channel infinitely more!

[@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985]

+1 LetterKenny Love my Packtalk, period. Once you've experienced a unit that has no "noticeable" delay, Bluetooth is obsolete. Occasionally I've experienced a connection issue and the button sequences are insane, but once you get the hang of it, it just works. Cell call quality while riding I'm told is as good as any normal call. Winner in my book. Slim ups the ante.

[@maikeli7]

Nite Runnr Hi, I’ve a dumb question: can the Cardo talk with Sena? I’m thinking of going Cardo, but everyone I know is (unhappily) on Sena.

[@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985]

Maikeli7 Sorry, but I don’t know the answer to this one. Cardo will allow you to connect to older Bluetooth headsets, (likely only other Cardo) and you can also add a rider via cellphone to the “mesh” group. It’s very sweet.

[@John_Ridley]

@@maikeli7 From the Amazon page, a user response to this question: The Cardo Systems website says you will need a Cardo Gateway to connect with other brands sets... Check at kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3TPeZptlNKNn6s

[@jagjiwanphul7061]

After extensive research on Revzilla, other Amazon reviews, and various motorcycle forums I had dwindled my decision down to two products; the SENA 10S and the Cardo Packtalk BOLD. I decided to buy the 10S initially due to the overwhelming positive reviews available. Thus I will often reference Cardo since most interested buyers compare these two products and since I now own a Cardo Packtalk BOLD. SUMMARY IS 2ND LAST PARAGRAPH FOR YOU LAZY PEOPLE. Installation for this product is extremely easy and similar to other Bluetooth units. The build quality of the clamp and the Bluetooth unit are extremely durable for my riding conditions (although I have not ridden in rain). The section of the unit that mounts to the helmet won’t budge; additionally the Bluetooth unit’s locking mechanism is very secure. Jog dial has a nice feel with small resistance notches helping you indicate whether you’ve actually moved the dial. 5/5 stars for mechanical design. The ergonomics are too complex for me. It was difficult to use the jog dial while riding. There are too many order of operations to remember. Additionally it can be difficult to locate the jog dial while riding. I applaud SENA for providing all these options but I just found it too confusing. Of course my judgement is clouded by Cardo’s impeccable ergonomic design and this is primarily due to the voice command available in the Cardo Packtalk BOLD. Although there are more buttons on the Cardo, I never use them other than turning the device on and off because everything I need can be done through voice command which makes it a more efficient device that increases safety. Voice commands are so nice . 3/5 for ergonomics Rider to rider connection on the Sena 10S is garbage and a complete nightmare. My buddy and I rode to Yosemite and we disconnected around bends and mountains multiple times (which is expected). But I guess around one bend the 10S did not want to reconnect so we pulled over in a parking lot to try and manually reconnect (note my friends device was also a SENA product, I believe it was the SMH10). After about 15-20 minutes of trial and error, we gave up and continued with our trip. We went on our hike and came back to the same issue of a failure to connect devices. It turned out that the SENA application on my phone was causing the issue because after deleting it we were able to connect. However even connecting with my phone is a hassle sometimes, it doesn’t auto-connect with previously paired devices. I’ve never had this problem with the Cardo Packtalk BOLD. It instantly pairs with my phone as soon as I turn it on; additionally it seamlessly pairs with other Cardo devices even while I have the application on my phone, imagine that! My friend and I did a similar trip and we disconnected multiple times around bends and we connected back up every time. Thus Bluetooth/wireless connection technology is garbage on the SENA. This experience paired with another (which I’ll discuss below) was the reason I returned this product to Amazon. 1/5 for Bluetooth connectivity The audio from rider to rider is pretty clear and does a good job of cutting out wind and exhaust noise. Music audio is also clear and can be heard at 80+ mph, although not really with ear plugs. The audio is extremely tinny in the 10S, no bass whatsoever. The output of the speakers can best be described as if someone put on your music at one end of a speaking tube at your local park and blasted it to you while you listened on the other end. Additionally there was a lot of static/unwanted noise from my speakers. I couldn’t determine if it was from pinched wires that ran from the unit to my speakers, or if it was just a shitty electronic design where they decided to cheap out on some filters. All in all, it was extremely annoying to constantly listen to this buzz. Cardo’s speakers on the other hand are WAY better than the ones provided with the SENA unit, granted they are JBL. But trust me, there is a significant improvement is the crispness and bass quality. There is no clipping or distortion at maximum volume. I’m positive the speakers are rated for a higher wattage than what the unit can output. I wear earplugs on long commutes and average a speed between 75-85 mph and I can hear clear muffled music. I'm also able to place voice commands at those speeds, meaning the Cardo does a great job of discerning irrelevant noise, but the SENA did this just as well when I was on comms with my friend. Additionally the Cardo comes with a standard auxiliary plug allowing you to disconnect the speakers if you wish. SENA uses a hardline integrated connected meaning you can’t disconnect the speakers from the bluetooth unit, which I believe was the source of the constant crackling in my speakers. 1/5 for Audio Quality Basically what I found was, a lot of the functions are the same between the two products, but Cardo just one-ups SENA in each category. There are a couple added benefits in the Cardo such as voice command and sound quality. However what you are paying for is the ease of use. I’ve owned the Cardo for a few months now, and never fidget with it. I get on my bike, turn on my device and it starts to work flawlessly immediately. When I had the SENA, I was always messing around with it trying to readjust the volume, reconnect my phone, etc. I didn’t expect a big difference from the sound either in the Cardo but boy was I wrong, it’s a night and day difference. If you are on the fence about buying a SENA 10S or a Cardo Packtalk BOLD I WOULD STRONGLY ADVISE YOU TO BUY THE CARDO PALKTALK BOLD. Right now the 10S is listed for around $211, while the Cardo Packtalk BOLD JBL is listed at $248; a difference of $37. Hopefully you have friends because if you do, convince one of them to split the cost with you on the Packtalk BOLD JBL duo set (its cheaper). Or buy both, try both and bite the bullet when returning the other, I guarantee you’ll keep be the Packtalk BOLD. Overall 2/5 for 10S Comment if you want me to review anything else about these two products, I’ll do my best. Thanks for reading.

[@hazelbell6984]

Thank you. Do you happen to anything about pairing cross brand. Like how can you talk to your friend with the Sena that you use a pack talk

[@nef4ri0us68]

4:00 quuuuite the conversation 🤣

[@MrSpri1167]

I can't say enough about this review! Great job! One best of all reviews I have ever seen period. All of your reviews/videos are great! Fantastic job man! You even had my wife laughing who could care less about motorcycles. I'm sold on Cardo.

[@wandererscott]

Only one criticism! You put out this video the day after I ordered the Sena 20s evo! Now I have to return it. I ordered the Packtalk Slim!

[@Lve2bike]

Bought a Packtalk couple seasons ago, blew my goddamn mind. Riding with buddies has never been better, anybody that rides with us goes out and buys one immediately.

[@rookie__pilot]

Bro i just had surgery and your accent was just making me laugh in pain fml

[@FortNine]

Apologies! Hope you feel better soon. ~RF9

[@user-hk7fs6fk2w]

@@FortNine ever the Canadian

[@evana9657]

I have just recently found this gem, I have watched most of Ryan's videos and as soon as this started it screamed Letterkenny. I had to watch it twice since I was laughing through the first run.

[@wiisterbation]

If the opening is a Letterkenny reference I love this channel even more.

[@jacksonlee2279]

Can confirm

[@toddbradley9430]

Truth is, since I started biking again last year, this is the first place I come for any type of gear review. Ryan, you will soon have your own multimillion dollar gig padawan..

[@MrPtholt]

I find it very interesting that of all the channels i watch they all rate sena comms over anything else, by some amazing coincidence they also receive shiny new boxes and take great pleasure unboxing them and waxing lyrical about how great they all work and its the best on the market blah, blah, blah. Only two channels (of the many) i follow rate cardo higher than sena...... welcome to the wonderful world of vloggers being given freebies and being (or forced into) giving them great reviews in exchange for free stuff, kinda says it all about youtube reviews really...

[@marcellipp282]

but just the thing that cardo doesnt support wifi mesh is a completely no go on that price range! then you can just buy a freedconn intercom, save money, and all is fine

[@ironhorserider1066]

Just got a cordo and loving it

[@ckjlgp]

found this out the expensive way , cardo pack talk slim is junk !

[@MrPtholt]

chris peterson funny you say that as my impression of the slim is the same as yours... been back under warranty twice, can’t hear it over 30mph, keeps cutting out when connected tho i notice all the people loving cardo are actually not running the slim

[@ckjlgp]

Peter Holt , yes true , my mates are using the bold and don’t seem to be having problems and yes I’ve sent mine back twice as well, mine won’t turn on and on the very odd occasion it does it won’t turn off so I’m figuring that it’s the button with the phone emblem and in the UK they aren’t repairing them due to covid ! If they weren’t paying these influences so much money they might be cheaper! God I hate technology

[@brandonjacobson7191]

I'm just going to rant for a quick minute. Decent motorcycle and motorcycle gear reviews on KZbin are extremely hard to come buy. I recently discovered your channel when contemplating buying a XSR900. I bought the bike and only because your review was honest and in depth. Please keep doing what your doing because the motorcycle community needs you! Much love brother!

[@Dylzhaar]

I want this character back for the 2019 update

[@randylachance1128]

These are by far the best motorcycle and accessories reviews period.

[@chiefkeith5641]

Still my favorite skit from this channel

[@frogclip1]

By far the best motorcycle related videos on KZbin!

[@bertadelaudebri7179]

Excellent comprepensive, yet simple and humorous, review of these motorsports communication devices. Thanks as you made my decision in this regard so much more easier!

[@WigglesNation]

LOVED The Letterkenny style video. you've become my favorite motorbike talker hands down

[@UnleadedApe]

Best KZbin Motovlogger Ever - Thanks Again Ryan!

[@mikeguitarification]

Just saw this for the first time, and while the review is outdated, the video was awesome. I was laughing out loud. Keep it up Ryan and crew.

[@HDFoxra]

You said "Hey Siri" and my Google Home woke up and said "I'm flattered you mistook me for Siri, but I'm not her. I did write her a poem though!" and proceeded to read me her poem lmao

[@HappyHardcore88]

I own a Sena 20S since februray 2015! The 20S and me got through many many rain showers aaaaaand it still works. Except for a contact problem, which was repaired by the Sena support, it works without problems. The battery life is great with 8 hours.

[@FlaviaPitariu]

You made my Google react when you said okay Google lol!

[@mobilestew9294]

Same

[@dougelick8397]

Yup, me too.

[@OMFGSTFUWTFBOLILLO]

he made mine react but mine knows my voice so it said voice not recognized lol

[@FlaviaPitariu]

OMFGSTFUWTFBOLILLO you can calibrate it? I never bothered with doing that

[@OMFGSTFUWTFBOLILLO]

Flavia Pitariu yep now its called voice match i think you got to find in the google assistant settings

[@chancebranham5237]

i watch this at least once a year this is my fav way you have ever done a video.

[@Lady_highrock]

A fan of LetterKenny I see. I

[@GhazKhan99]

I just came here in late 2020 to enjoy the goldmine of a video RyanF9 makes :D :D What a guy, What a team...

[@practicallyprinz]

Ryan-"okay google" My Google assistant-"mmmyes?"

[@dr_chunkloader6196]

Same😂😂😂

[@zenlasurfer]

I have to give to fortnine, production and presentation of real info is above par, well done

[@dirkevans4531]

Nice job as usual Ryan and as always.,,, entertaining. Don’t know if Cardo offered JBL speakers in 2018 but they do now in 2019 and I believe they still had a larger speaker than Sena even before adding the JBL option. Bought a Cardo Packtalk with the JBL option last month and I’m extremely pleased with the sound. Cheers

[@winston11381]

This is now my new favorite channel. You nailed, NAILED this!

[@RoyalLobotomy]

The Fortnine/Letterkenny cross over is the greatest anime cross over of..well ever

[@trentnicholls8915]

No review has ever been so good to watch

[@hayabusaTravels]

I have a Chinese set for 3 years now. $70. Heavy rain, sun... you name it! Still works fine and I get 10hours per charge. Why would I pay extra for a sena or whatever?

[@Rhyme905]

really nigga? sun is a plus? lmao but seriously you pay for the mesh network and software compatability

[@madbull4666]

hayabusaTravels the only reason i got my sena is that it has a camera other wise I don't see the point in getting an expensive one unless you ride with lots of riders, but im certain that a Chinese brand has done this for 10th of the price.

[@sooriyah007]

Thats true! I had one too. Upgraded to the Sena 3S which was $100 for the better sound quality and battery life. These fancier ones are not that financially practical for day to day use unless you ride with groups regularly

[@madbull4666]

Driveformer i used to have one that worked amazing. Freecom i think it was. Got it off ebay.

[@hayabusaTravels]

I don't ride with music on, or need a phone connected. Or GPS for that matter! I just need the intercom function to permanently talk to my passenger. I get 10 hours one them. What more battery life do you need? Sound is good up to 100km/h depending on your helmet and how much wind is outside. My wife was in front of the elevator at 4th floor and wile I was waiting her in the parking lot. We heard eachother fine. The only issue I have with the Lexin RX6 is the antennas. While caring the helmet in you hand, you need to be careful not to hit stuff.

[@erik291]

Just found fortnine, Best motorcycle chanel by miles

[@linwoodchatten6623]

Had the smart pack and got the bold this year at Daytona. Another great part about Cardo is that they have firmware updates that make the smart pack into a pack talk. 15 rider MESH. Cardo all the way. Glad to see they are still supporting the older models as well.

[@txkid1818]

Ryan...you bring reviews to a whole new level....funny, informative and flipp'n straight atch'a. Love it!

[@ehart34]

I defiantly prefer the cardo over sena. I own both!

[@hermanjonsson9994]

How does the audio volume/quality compare??:)

[@ehart34]

@@hermanjonsson9994 the volume is plenty loud enough, offers a like speed feature in the volume controls as an option so it can automatically up the volume to accommodate for wind and engine noise as well as lower it's self when your stopped really you don't notice this because it's just enough. Also cardo offers units with jbl speakers sena can't beat that!

[@nicolomarchillo4451]

Definitely*

[@alraimond9784]

I like your attitude/way of explaining and joking, makes the video a lot more enjoyable to watch. Nice 👍✌️

[@Bartimeus761]

5:15 "and thirdly? " "and thirdeeeeeey... " ahahahhahahhaha

[@bvan1970]

Oh man, when you prompted Siri in your video, my phone went nuts. Yes, it actually interrupted your video, and called Siri. She told all about cheques. I had to then cancel “my” / “your” Siri request so I could actually finish your video. Nice video by the way. I have a love hate relationship with my Sena 10S.

[@delbertwinapeg]

That's a Texas-sized 10-4 good buddy!

[@ddkguitars4095]

I love it when you call out bulshit to these corporate companies that's why I always take your opinion very strongly.

[@PhantomRides]

I have no friends

[@inspecktorf]

Phantom Rides fuck off

[@elcucuygarage]

I'll be your riding buddy 👌

[@igloo8439]

I have no friends that ride so Freecom, here I come.

[@mikeylikesit6588]

Cardo solo for you

[@guloguloguy]

.....SAME HERE.

[@bentroskie3190]

you are the only reason i watch fortnine reviews. tell them you need a raise. also, letterkenny approves.

[@sniglom]

What about audio quality from speakers and microphone? Riding down the highway with earplugs it's important with high volume AND clarity. When talking to your friend a good microphone improves the situation.

[@kitsachie.]

i own the original packtalk and the audio from both ends was fine, the newer models come with jbl audio speakers but mine hasnt come in yet so i cant speak from experience yet.

[@gunsngunpla]

Finally started watching Letterkenny and now this intro makes so much more sense...

[@monarka12]

I love these videos but damn I miss the bike reviews :(

[@FortNine]

Got one coming next week, if that eases your pain! ~RF9

[@monarka12]

FortNine Can't wait 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@gat1817]

FortNine I don't know the availability of it in Canada but I'd be interested in your opinion on the Royal Enfield classic 500! It's a cracking and underrated A2 license starter bike here in Europe

[@TheNinjamechanic1]

He did one recently on the Triumph T100 as a poke at Ducati.

[@KentRodgman]

Please be the KTM 1090 Adventure.... I'm pretty much holding off on buying one until I see your opinion of it haha

[@karlquint]

Best review of the two companies I have seen so far! 🎉

[@calebporter4938]

Are you gonna do a best communication system for 2019 ? Also what would u recommend for great music with occasional communication use?

[@sulos4646]

CARDO Headset PACKTALK BOLD 2019 JBL-Sound DMC-Interkom

[@CowboyX1000]

That was fantastic. You have a great way of making the mundane entertaining. And the Letterkenny opening style was a nice touch.

[@TweakedTay]

But the 20S does have voice command.... You just say 'Hello Sena' and off she goes...? Works on mine at least.... Most excellent Letterkenny references though, guys. Not at all soft.

[@bloodymarvelous4790]

Yeah, but you gotta say Seena, not Senna, so it makes sense it didn't work for RyanF9.

[@Stoney3K]

It's obviously not Canadian-compatible. "Zee" will work but it will flunk on "Zed".

[@taybeltz]

There is a massive difference between “voice command” and “natural voice operation” that the Packtalk Bold /slim have. Voice command is a multi-step workflow in order to get anything done, natural voice is truly hands free like Alexa, Google, or “J.A.R.V.I.S.”. If you’re looking to utilize your voice over controlling by hand, the Packtalk Bold /Slim are your only option for a great experience. As Motogeek Freak stated above: "With the Packtalk Bold/Slim: You: “Hey Cardo, next track” Packtalk: Done. There is nothing else on the market like that.

[@John_Ridley]

I bought a $50 Chinese generic off Amazon. It's been running just fine for about 8 months now. It does have intercom capability, but I don't have any friends so I haven't tried it. It works great for using just with the phone.

[@Jubular]

Subbed, you're worth it.

[@DiyDMMakesThings]

I can't get over the voices! Awesome vid!

[@brandonrides8953]

Got a Cardo Slim JBL to replace my 20S :)

[@QTALISCHILL]

Whats the verdict? Was it the right move?

[@demonkey123]

Just to point out that Cardo units are rated at IP67 and are relatively waterproof (backed by the manufacturer) whereas Sena units are NOT waterproof or water resistant in any way. Sena units come with 'dust covers' for open ports and button gaiters etc but are not suitable for rain! Sena make no mention of 'weatherproofing of any of its product documentation. I live in Northern England and found out the hard way. Wet weather riders be warned!

[@TheJerseyBiker]

Hiya Ryan that is probably the funniest comparison review I have ever seen, but just to clarify while I wipe away the tears... For someone who will be travelling around the world in all kinds of weather you are recommending Cardo?? 🤣

[@FortNine]

Yes indeed. It might still go kaput (unlikely) but Cardo will replace it if so. Doing a round-the-world ride? ~RF9

[@TheJerseyBiker]

Yes mate... I set off next June from Jersey in the Channel Islands, hence "The Jersey Biker". Do you use facebook?

[@madbull4666]

The Jersey Biker I've used my sena 10c in basically every weather exept from snow and ice and it still works fine after 4 years.

[@marylynfenton7178]

Love this no bull straight to the point helpful video. Surprised one of these two companies don't snatch you up for commercials. Great Job.

[@OKMotorcu]

It feels like SENA has a bigger portion of the market under control. Do you think that's because all the motovloggers use it or because of the bigger buttons..

[@kinkinhood]

OK Motorcu I'd say likely. Sena and gopro got in bed together pretty early and you can easily pull microphone pickup from the sena to the gopro. Honestly if it wasn't for the point everyone I ride with uses sena I'd likely have gone cardo

[@FortNine]

Better timing, I think. Sena had a dominant product line and pricing 5-10 years ago, which is when everyone got on board with comms. Now they're floating on that reputation / brand loyalty. ~RF9

[@kinkinhood]

FortNine it's similar to how gopro has the lions share of the market for action cams despite the Sony ones being built better and less drag when it's on the side of your helmet. Hey Fort nine, ever thought of doing an action cam comparison? Do a comparison between the top of the line Garmin one, the top of the line gopro, and the top of the line Sony unit?

[@eveRide]

Sena gave a LOT of headsets away to motovloggers. Almost anybody who asked could get one. Like Ryan says at the end of the video, you get what your friends get. The first gen Senas were great, then came the "planned obsolescence" firmware updates. Cardo makes a far better unit now IMO.

[@OKMotorcu]

Should've asked for one back in the day.

[@theghost75]

Your humor is always spot on, helpful vid as always, and class-act presentation. Nailed it on the mannerisms. I just bought the cardo-slim. Glad to see we're on the same page.

[@cbonz7734]

None of these will interface to GoPro 5,6,7. WHY NOT!!

[@mwkoskamp1]

Freecom 2 is 150 euro's. And can be mounted with a stick plate. Not every helmet is suitable for putting clamps between the inner and outer shell. Also some helmets have prepararations for building in an sena 20 internally (why??). In that case it is hard to put in the battery of the pack talk slim. There should be a market standard for built in communication sets.

[@jimc793]

Hil-arious 😂🤣😂 I prefer no comm system and ear plugs and yes, I have no friends, either.

[@michaelmclarney1994]

Just in the process of getting Comms this year as I have bought a sat nav. I'm going cardo packtalk as I have one biking friend but aspire to more 😂

[@freedomisntfree131]

As always, thanks for the laughs (and the content, of course).

[@korjalgil5433]

1:18 made my google come out. 😂

[@BossmanRich28]

I LOVED this video. Very humorous and engaging man. Kept me interested all the way ASIDE from the review. Wish i saw this video before buying my Sena 30k 😭.

[@mannysalazar1124]

Bro you gonna do a 2019 best Bluetooth video or has much change since 2018?

[@wrgranville]

Finally, some much needed clarity as this excellent review cuts through all the marketing BS.

[@BluesMtn]

Time for an update on communicators yet? Any major changes you would talk to at this point or is it essentially the same old for now?

[@taybeltz]

Cardo partnered with JBL in the meantime

[@URBANENGINEER]

Pretty much the same ATM. Cardo has better speakers and microphone.

[@rakeshenganti7741]

Have to thank Bret from Mototreck for mentioning you in one of his videos. Have been enjoying the best ever since. Keep going buddy.

[@gmctech]

People..... save your money and stay away from Sena garbage. Here's how all my gang run now... Chinese M1-S head unit, Luiton Wireless Bluetooth Headset Walkie Talkie PTT, and Radioddity GD-77's. It sounds crazy but it's a neat little package that gives us wireless PTT capabilities with digital DMR radios that gives us realistic distances and enables us that are licensed to operate through HAM repeaters when we feel like it while still giving us the advantage of seamless bluetooth phone and music utilization... everything pairs up perfectly and we have mega hours of battery life and no wires to bother us. Look into it folks... I plan on making a short video to show folks what I mean and how it all ties together and just how much better all my no name chinese cheapo stuff does the job 10X better than Sena or Cardo can do... It took me a year to find everything you need to make this work but it was worth it!

[@coolpizzadude]

How do you connect the Tewp way radio to the headset?

[@gmctech]

you need the Luiton Bluetooth headset. you take the jawbone part and boot fuck that into the garbage or pair it to your phone.... you pair the Luiton system adapter that plugs into your comms radio to you helmet comm unit as another headset and BIZAM you're in business!

[@andrewsok8086]

gmctech Make manual how to set up all .... what u have. How many riders can talk same time??? Thanks man..

[@usernamemykel]

This is N4ANO - would you please search QRZ and snail mail instructions to me - it would be very much appreciated! 73!

[@brackneypechacek3494]

Bro…. Your videos save me so much money. Love the content

[@bigemoney31]

Pretty bummed there were no “To be Faaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiirr”s... figure it out.

[@FortNine]

Well to be faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiirrrr... we can't make these videos too long! ~RF9

[@kyboren240]

Make 'em longer! I'd watch a feature length 'movie' of you talking about motorcycle stuff.

[@bigemoney31]

FortNine you don’t really have anyone to harmonize with either... fair enough.

[@therealmr.whiskers1547]

Immediately love the letterkenny-esque reviews😂😂

[@fhansen]

any chance to get an update of this since sena brought out the +Mesh this year?

[@cxns155]

Still Cardo. Why pay for a non-waterproof, bluetooth unit that will require an adapter for mesh? Buy the Cardo and spare yourself the hassle.

[@fhansen]

@@cxns155 completely see your point from a rational angle but it's hard for Germans not to follow instructions. Shoei manhandled me into getting the SRL2 so all is lost and I've already ordered the +Mesh. Part of me is happy that everything will be nice and snugly fitted into its preallocated slots. The other part is ashamed...

[@festes81]

I have a Packtalk (not bold). The 40mm speakers in the bold are a nice upgrade. I got a pair for my older one. I do have some complaints however about the reliability of starting a conversation. It doesn't happen throughout the ride, but at the beginning.. It doesn't always want to rejoin the pack easily. Sometimes they have to be restarted or toggled to bluetooth mode and back to DMC. Otherwise, I have never understood why people would buy a water 'resistant' anything. Going down the highway at 70mph can force water droplets in all sorts of weird ways. I also had to get a warranty replacement for mine (wouldn't power on / boot up properly). No problem. Got a new one and good to go. My other buddy dropped his helmet and smashed the antenna. No problem. Got a new one.

[@takemechrome2291]

Intro song?

[@barrettwbenton]

@@highzenburger1829 Still looking, alas.

[@HaulinAssAssin]

Ryan this has to be my favorite video you’ve made to date. 😂👍👍

[@BaronVonCatipeen]

Uclear?

[@FortNine]

Best speakers on the market. Otherwise, meh. ~RF9

[@DarnGood1]

Uclear has all new BT 5.0 Mesh units coming out in a few months. However no one knows about this yet. Hopefully he will review them when they are available.

[@DarnGood1]

FortNine HeyRF9. If Uclear sends you a new weatherproof unit with BT 5.0, mesh, voice commands, new speakers, buttonless control, a motion sensor and crash sensor, would you review it? I know a guy...

[@Mr.Smith101]

David M. Kuck Great, if you know someone that works there, tell them to answer their damn emails please!

[@DarnGood1]

Bullwinkle I am connected there and can get things handled for you. They are all riders and they take care of people. If you arent hearing back, something is off. I guarantee you have bad contact info or you are hitting a spam filter, or you were rude which they don't respond to. I do know they have email, a contact form, and a toll free number. If you want to private message me, I will happily help you get hooked up. A negative back and forth on a public forum is more of a troll thing that I will not be involved in.

[@kevinh6918]

I helped bring Cardo to the US Industry as the first on the Market. Does not surprise me a bit they just keep making them better and better !