BMW 8 Series: M850i & 840d Road Review - Carfection (4K)

Henry Catchpole reviews the NEW BMW 8 Series, in M850i and 840d version, on road. Is the car worth £100K?
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[@Idespahk]

6:12 that transition... OMG!

[@brennanbailey6587]

Amazing.

[@itmustbelove08]

It was ok but he is still wearing the same outfit but he said it would be a day later. Maybe that is his uniform.

[@Lucas-ck1po]

Guys... imagine for a second... An 8 series with the v12 from the m760li, a manual six speed and rear wheel drive... heaven but it wont happen

[@topg2820]

M8 Gran Coupé

[@MazdaRX7007]

Yes that's impossible because rich bmw drivers usually don't want to drive manuals and purist car guys usually can't afford it or prefer something cheaper, so there's no profit

[@Lucas-ck1po]

Harsh but true

[@LegendInThaMakin]

Mazda Miata actually bmw is the only one out of that Audi and merc trio still offering manuals. The last m6 came in a manual as well. It’s not too far fetched to think the m8 might have a manual option.

[@BirdiesGoCherp]

@@LegendInThaMakin it's pretty much impossible.

[@WelcomeToTheMadness]

The 8 series needs to be unique and elegant with no corner cutting to save money...and sprinkled with electrical gremlins

[@stubones]

Idiot. AMG fanfirl crap spewed ad nauseum.

[@LegendInThaMakin]

Jorge Ituarte I love the rear, absolutely love the looks

[@emiltsikhanovich2499]

I imagine the M8 will have the interchangeable drivetrain like in the F90 M5

[@aidenp5768]

Welcome To The Madness That’s what it is though... it’s unique like all the 8s .. E31 90s 8 series, Z8 and I8.

[@mistreku]

genuinely laughed at the gremlins part! :D i love bms but i have to admit you're spot on.

[@Yathuprem]

What a video, what a review. Well done carfection team. And thank you for making it free.

[@Pastronomer69]

Yes Henry, yes! Fake exhausts, the biggest plague to the current car industry. Hate it.

[@idi419]

thought the new crops of beemers ditched pumping the exhaust note though the speakers ??

[@Pastronomer69]

@@idi419 fake exhaust tips. Stick some trim around a small pipe and it looks "sporty". Compare last gen AMG Vs current, it's a rubbish trend

[@zardozal8239]

That diesel was a straight six, should have only one exhaust.

[@BHBeckenbauer]

I don’t think the fake tips are as bad as the whole fake exhaust from MB and Audi

[@rickc2102]

@@zardozal8239 bUt dUaL eXhAuSt iS fAsTeR

[@adamyahya4638]

This is a 6 series. The 8 series should always be something that looks radically different from the rest of the lineup. The i8 is more of an 8 series than this.

[@VincentAnthonyE]

Exactly, it looks so similar, why even bother?

[@tomhiggins4816]

I was excited after seeing the concept but it completely ditched most of what made that unique. For me the lexus LC500 looks like a better car, would make for a cool head to head

[@iuhshwth1634]

You can't say this is 6 series when 6 series already exist and is different from this in every way? What's you problem anyway? You want to name cars different names? Go become a head chief in BMW then ramble around what is what and what is not what...

[@campkira]

They just make wide range of choices. 8 is a little big than 6. Still not my kind of GT car.

[@luckiegonzalez7547]

Similarities but very different , I have a 6 and looks completely different

[@ForTehNguyen]

nice looking mustang

[@rickc2102]

Lol, just deleted my nearly-identical comment I'd made before reading your prior iteration.

[@adecarlo29411]

Exactly what I thought. The mustang is better looking though.

[@chamade166]

When you see it in real life you’ll realize it has 10 times the road presence of the Mustang. Superficial front fascia similarity.

[@adecarlo29411]

chamade166 perhaps, but for roughly 100k the Lexus LC 500 is a better buy. It will last longer, retain its value, and has a NA 5 liter v8. The BMW will be worth as much as a new v6 mustang in 5 years and all the lights on the dash will be on.

[@zTheBigFishz]

@@adecarlo29411 The comment about the LC 500 is a good one. Those cars have incredible road presence, as much as many hyper cars. I think if a sporty, comfortable GT is what one wants the LC 500 would be the one to get.

[@infidel900rr]

AWESOME REVIEW. This guy has always been one of the top reviewers.. and the cinematography is spectacular - Thanks!

[@theimp67]

This channel, and Doug DeMuro's, is all I need for my car fix. (Harry's Garage is also damn good too, car channel for grownups.)

[@choklat85]

This is quickly becoming one of my favourite KZbin channels. Well done!!

[@fragfarmerCA]

The Rapha T-Shirt makes the presenter even more likeable. Good chap! Excellent reviews you've been putting out recently. Love from Germany!

[@georgecope4673]

Fantastic bit of filming but i am surprised BMW are still developing their Diesel range though.

[@avigator]

George Cope, why shouldn’t they? A Diesel is the most efficient engine you can get for long distance travel. It makes complete sense for a GT car as its main purpose is the „Grand Tour“.

[@brainfulify]

Great review, and thanks for the superb 4k video quality.

[@JayeOFarrell]

On my new 4k 55inch TV this video is absolutely beautiful plus the content is as high quality as ever! Bravo lads

[@REXman717]

Really appreciate the actual criticism of the interior, the amount of technology, and fake exhausts. Thank you for doing a real review, instead of a 10 minute ad.

[@snail415]

Few better ways to start the morning than good coffee and videos like this.

[@anthonyburgess2004]

Thanks Henry, Great review as always and beautifully shot :). Love the sound of that V8 😀

[@thefridgeman]

Henry is sooo good that even buses reviews are entertaining!

[@perfectframe1]

Brilliant reviews - well done! From the outside at least, the car looks beautiful.

[@mikesanders5433]

Great video, subbed.

[@InteriorDesignAnderson]

The exhaust ain’t fake, they just have big surrounds but there is an exhaust there.

[@AlexSami-qw4qu]

Henry, thank you for your soothing voice.

[@robertl2856]

A good honest review thanks

[@issakjimenez5600]

God bless this free content

[@CarswithB]

Great Video, The M850i is a great car for a daily driver GT, The M8 will be a beast!

[@anirudhar6074]

The sound is what I'm gonna miss the most when cars go electric.

[@rickc2102]

No pedantry allowed from people who can't spell "aren't," Jorge.

[@DanielSadjadian]

We'll still have Hybrid combustion powertrains for years to come.

[@campkira]

Most sound would come from speaker.

[@yummyhershey5902]

Jorge Ituarte what do you mean until electric cars can generate their own energy? Gasoline cars don’t do that either.

[@yummyhershey5902]

Jorge Ituarte and those statistics you have on electric cars are flat it wrong according to current estimates: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIPLpZyGmsuJsK8 This video covers both CO2 emissions and the effects of mining rare metals from the earth. Electric cars are more environmentally friendly. And lithium isn’t even the primary material used in lithium ion batteries for Teslas. They’re more worried about cobalt, but even Tesla has been cutting down on its usage of rare metals in its battery packs, and this can be seen in the Model 3’s ratio of cobalt compared to other materials. And batteries are going to keep getting better and better over the years as breakthroughs keep getting discovered and they become more popular. Tesla, nor the EV are going anywhere anytime soon. Even hydrogen cars have their problems, the biggest one being that producing large amounts of hydrogen can be extremely difficult and demanding.

[@tuningemporium]

another great video carfection! yes agree, hate fake exhausts too!!

[@otengdebrah741]

Hi Henry! Big fan from Ghana!

[@jhoff563]

Just need Waze, something to listen to a podcast through, and for long journeys, adaptive cruise. Thats it for tech for me.

[@shreyanshsuvin]

All your clips are Visual Treats. Thanks .

[@bradis690]

Damn he captured my attention the whole video. Good review!

[@krithpalawon7896]

I love this channel

[@f.f.thegentlemandriver]

Amazing vid

[@sludgehammerz]

such lovely camera work.

[@Kelveron]

I always enjoy Henry Catchpole's laid back, but informative and totally unbiased reviews. I really like the 8-series' looks. It sounds like a good drive too, but I wish BMW made a bit lighter. A sporty GT coupe shouldn't weigh as much as a full sized Super Saloon like the M5, which it does. Also, being as big as it is, the 8 to be roomier in the back. But that aside, I really like the new 8.

[@CarObsession]

Very handsome car, and of course, a very good review - great content.

[@boondockbwoy14]

Tell 'em blind idiots it resembles nothing like a mustang

[@ExiledExia]

Thank you for your excellent review. It's exactly as you say. To me it looks like they slapped an 8 series badge on there and didn't go all the way with a wow interior and exterior. They might be good to drive but so are a lot of other cars in that price segment.

[@ashleymerritt9461]

I love the styling I have to say, we're in another golden era of the bimmer people!

[@ThorburnJ]

Tech in cars, I could do without most of it! Big part of why I bought an Evora 400 was it seemed to have everything it needed - parking sensors and camera because rear visibility is crap, workable sat-nav, air-con, electric mirrors and heated seats - and no superfluous bits that it doesn't. It has MP3 and Bluetooth audio options, but I've never used it because I realised years ago that I want to focus fully on driving and what is happening around me - even on long motorway journeys its amazing how much more I'm aware of when I'm focused purely on driving as opposed to music or talk radio.

[@aaronming8466]

I rather have fake exhausts tips than fake exhaust noise from the speakers.

[@NatoriousGamePlay]

But there was a time when we had neither

[@penalozaur]

This car has both, dumbass

[@v12ish40]

Lmfaoo it has both...

[@campkira]

This is come with both.

[@martinallenuk]

I largely dont care. Its all about the steering for me.

[@Emanual0607]

Absolutely, Positively, Fantastic!!!!!!!

[@Fullersh1t]

Here before 10 million views!

[@Lucas-ck1po]

Carfection uploaded a video, time to stop working and have a break for a sec

[@argentum001]

As long as the exhaust gas is actually exiting from the exhaust tips, these aren't fake!

[@boondockbwoy14]

ikr

[@bingoberra18]

Nice video, where was it shot a bit more specifically?

[@Edd0784]

This car is awesome 👏🏻

[@winglessang31]

Such a cool car. I wish America would embrace fun non trick diesel cars like this. Looks great with great torque and good hp.

[@EmilRzayev-dg6vj]

From large car manufacture no other car gives you more secure confidence when your drive like BMW

[@ItsTheNada]

Per usual, great video. Regarding this new 8 series, I wish it looked well... a little more outrageous. The Z8, i8 and original 8 series always looked exotic. This one just kind of looks like a large 2 series... or 4 series... or 6 series. It’s way to safe to wear an 8 badge.

[@boondockbwoy14]

Yeah I'd more so say those in comparison def not no mustang these peeps are straight blinded idiots smh. The rear end is quite unique from anything though..

[@ZeeBri]

Chris Harris has reminded me how great the E38 is.

[@ThexMJT]

m850 is fantastic getting to drives works was just wow

[@zahabulhassan2958]

i am fall in love with BMW 8 series

[@leobuckey]

It looks uncomfortably mustangish at 1:07

[@Pikachu-uz1bs]

I didn’t notice it until y’all started pointing it out 😂😂😂

[@MrGaryGG48]

James, I hadn't noticed until you pointed out that frame. I've been driving BMW's since the late '60s and Mustangs since our new '66 convertible. I like them both but I'm getting really disappointed in the direction BMW is taking. I got my invitation to test drive about half a dozen new BMWs in San Francisco a couple of months ago so what the hell... it's on their dime; why not? I drove my '01 330xi down to the Cow Palace and tried out an afternoon's worth of new cars. This 850 is about the same as the others but with a bit more glittery trim. I don't want a $100K video game! They've been drifting away from their "Sports Sedan/Coupe" heritage and more into the mainstream plush, fast, cruisers. I'll keep my E46 3-Series, manual 5-speed, all-wheel drive, straight six. It's quick (not like 350-400 hp but respectable), handles very well, and the 5 speed gives the driver much more immediate control of the performance.

[@leobuckey]

@@MrGaryGG48 I agree with you Gary, I've been a little disenchanted with BMW's of late. The way the M division has been bastardized has me more excited with other brands lately.

[@wasdwasdwwasd]

Sounds very impressive but Henry did make a great point about an M4 Competition offering a very similar experience for much less coin.

[@anshuljain8515]

True love is when you watch Carfection videos on 4K while your internet buffers even at 720p streaming...

[@alf279]

About how much tech I use: a fraction of what most new cars offer. That's partly thanks to the fact that I like oldschool cars more, I drive a 1997 BMW E36 328i Convertible in the summer which I would never exchange for a new 4-series, but I have a company car which is a new VW Passat and I did drive new cars for longer periods of time. What I really use is the navigation and music - those are the two tech things in cars I really can't live without. But these two can be had in any old car, you just need a phone mount, a car charger and a proper head unit + some nice speakers, so you don't exactly need a new car for these. What I don't mind not having but like a lot when I do are the blind spot indicators (especially since newer cars tend to have worse visibility), head-up display, and the practical bits like tire pressure sensors, better headlights making night driving more pleasant (although that can be improved on any car), Android Auto (since I use my phone's navigation anyway, even if the car has built-in navigation), and basically that's it. Most of the tech in new cars is just another thing to go wrong for me, so I rather stick to older, more reliable/easier to fix technology that's still able to fulfill my needs. And of course, so much tech and engineering refinement kinda makes new cars more like robots compared to older cars with more 'soul' in them.

[@mauiman52]

@ModHunter: Totally with you...except I do not need navigation and music either. I do not listen to music when driving and I have Google Maps on my phone. Do not need anything else. Does the nav in a current Audi in the middle of the gauges look fancy? OMG, for sure. Can I live without? Yes. Recently had a BMW 430 as a rental and the entire I drive I was just fiddling and playing around. Together with that horrible steering I must have looked like a drunk driver from the rear. Stopped fiddling when came off onto the emergency lane. Maybe to be able to switch with one single button from sport to comfort for both sound and suspension would be sufficient for me.

[@alf279]

@@mauiman52 I listen to music only when I do my daily commute in the city, heavy traffic jams and all that nerve-breaking stuff, I need my music in those circumstances. When I drive the E36 with the N/A straight-six and the top down, I don't need any music for sure :) For navigation I use Waze, that's why I love Android Auto. The Passat I've been driving for a little more than a year is very well-equipped, and I remember when I started using it after the previous company car, a not very well-equipped Golf VI, I was also playing around with all of the tech for about a week. It was confusing, even for me as an IT developer. I love cars and I love driving, some of these high-tech gadgets are nice to have but they distract me, and they make me uncomfortable. I feel much better in the old BMW, no stupid notifications, no stupid beeping and chimes without serious reasons, instead a more engaging driving experience and a much superior engine.

[@Trendyflute]

I'm tired of tech in cars. Example: my friend has a Mk7 VW GTI SE with all the tech options (automatic emergency braking, radar cruise control, blind spot monitoring, rear cross-traffic alert, lane keep assist, adaptive shocks, panoramic sunroof, keyless entry and start). I have a Mk7 VW Golf Alltrack S with no tech options (I turn the key to start the ignition, have no sunroof, have passive shocks, and no automatic braking or lane keeping or anything. Just ABS, power windows, and traction control because they're standard). His car is a year older than mine and several of his active safety systems are on the fritz at under 40k miles. He regrets getting the sunroof due to its high weight, and we both know the DCC shocks will be quite expensive to replace. He tells me about problems his car has, and I tell him one thing: _"That's why I got the S"._ I got the S because I plan ahead in my car ownership. Most tech goes obsolete or fails much, much faster than the car, and it's idiotic. I specifically sought out an S even though there were almost none on dealer lots and EVERY dealer would sell me an SE for the same price, but I wanted LESS tech. I know I will be happier with my car in the long run the less there is to go wrong with it. *Features today are just headaches tomorrow.*

[@MattMK45]

Matt Clark I totally agree with what you've said there. More tech means more things to go wrong and it's worrying to hear that your mate's car has features that are starting to fail below 40k miles! Cars filled with tech in years to come will just feel reallly outdated too. That's why I bought a Ford Fiesta (2014) as I knew it didn't have too much tech in it but the stuff it does have works rather well (Bluetooth audio, handsfree). Alright, the display screen is a bit dated but otherwise its features should stand the test of time better than the interiors of some of the Fiesta's contemporaries.

[@MrGaryGG48]

Matt, your comment is very well taken! Just check out the latest 7-Series. There is more "tech stuff" in the back seat than anything had in total 5 years ago. Just imagine how much fun that will be to maintain when its 5 years old! The price of purchase drops like a rock but the cost of maintenance sure doesn't!!

[@person.w9780]

@@MrGaryGG48 Mate, it's a 7 series

[@vladmihai306]

Agree. Also, with active safety systems you have, as a driver, the bad habit of relying on them more than normal. You as a driver, have to be always aware, because in real safety situations, the good reactions and quick thinking of the driver make the difference between life and death.

[@jamesshives5679]

Vlad Mihai Absolutely... the world is raising worse and worse drivers, and the more tech, the dumber people will be. I see no good coming from this, in any aspect of life, honestly.

[@CycoWarriorx]

Rapha sighting! Likewise Henry... I’ll hold off any emotional investment until the M8 arrives, especially at this price point.

[@johanloubser8516]

Where in Spain was this filmed? Lovely roads good for driving experience

[@erraldstyler]

i have ONE question about that car.....does it have static blinkers or moving ones like the new audis? does someone know a vid where you can see the blinkers PLS?

[@JohnInSale]

I’d of liked to have seen a full review of the diesel as now second hand they’re the one to pick for me 🚙👍🏻

[@mikealanzo]

will the first en 850 increase in value now?

[@sharvan456]

Some of the tech features like the gesture control are unnecessary and gimmicky but they're cool and my kids get excited.

[@menacer3334]

The 8 series style needs to be less..... Mustang. Anyone else noticed or is it that hate mustangs that much???

[@pieboy75]

yeah the side profile looks very Mustang...

[@kesando84]

pieboy75 the side glass profile is all mustang. I don’t understand the hate as S550s are great looking cars for the money. This? Not so much

[@J-Eagan]

I hope they offer it with a performance version of the V12 from the 760i.

[@victorjimenez-sp6gf]

Its amazing BMW bring you to Málaga for make the videos!

[@kickyadick]

Lots of road noise got picked up by the mic, would you say it is quiet inside as much as S class coupe Henry?

[@tjallaballa]

I think the only thing that is actually important with the infotainment is the sound. I couldn't care less about screens and satnav. But I really appreciate a good sound system :D

[@Avrelivs_Gold]

i hope M8 will look exactly like the concept fresh, sharp, modern these look just like old 6-series to me

[@souperhart]

Nice looking mustang

[@dennischan1111]

Rapha London! What bike do you ride?

[@ahmadfaisal6778]

I may be wrong but is it ridicolous to offer sport coupe model with diesel engine?

[@deanchur]

I'm seeing some Lexus LC500 influence in the rear, especially the haunches

[@alessiodesign]

Great video! Does anyone know the name of the song at the end of the clip too?

[@marrowtek]

buhump

[@robotnyk]

Logistical reasons is the PC way of saying that Shmee150 was hogging the petrol version? Great video though.

[@NetvoTV]

If i want to get a coupe style 4 doors car for a cheap price, what car should I get? Prefer the new one

[@garyaustin2121]

316bhp? Is the 40d engine slightly de-tuned for this model?

[@gazman9468]

To me this is a 911 competitor despite being angled as a "GT" car. Problem is the 911 is just as practical and useable every day and, based on weight alone I'll wager, miles better to drive. Henry's review came across to me as being polite rather than genuinely excited.

[@maltesephil]

very nice, my 1st impression, it has a look of a ford mustang

[@TheRguru1]

Oh lawd he comin

[@user-sq6vq2mt7u]

Woah is this released? Holy...

[@MrWhiteguy6]

where is the drag race between the cullinan and the bentayga?

[@laracroft938]

Hey carfection, where's your lexus lc review?

[@stephen7627]

Hope the m8 looks better , like the new 3 the headlight looks great ... but as a whole not so , i think the 2 series imo is the best looking bmw right now

[@abdelhameedalotaibi3657]

Looks like a face lifted 6 series and knowing the fact that its a 4WD kinda kills the joy .. I tried to find any reason to justify the 100k price tag but I couldn’t find one .. i guess its their way of making it rare on the streets and to hold its value .

[@reko3103]

will this car eventually get a 6 cylinder petrol engine?

[@kr1sEb0i]

Complete waste of money. Price will drop like a bomb once you buy it and if anything goes wrong, it will cost an absolute fortune to fix. If you have that kind of money, buy a used entry level McLaren and you would get so much more for your money. Great review as always though Henry!

[@Trendyflute]

So true. My friend's been selling BMWs for a few years now; he says the main cars (3-series, 5-series, X3s, and X5s) are quite reliable overall if you don't spec any V8s. But the even-numbered cars, the low-volume cars (4s, 6s, 7s, X4s, X6s, Z4s), and anything with a V8 come in with problems all the times. Depreciation is monstrous on any BMW unless you're getting into something really special that holds its value...inevitably that's only the small lower-production M cars (1M Coupe, M2, M2 Competition, M3/M4 CS or GTS)

[@CherylCold]

Agree, but most buyers will lease it.

[@person.w9780]

@Matt Frazier Doesn't that have a host if electrical issues?

[@badgastein2]

Anyone buying a secondhand Maclaren would not be rich enough to dealer service it. Buying a secondhand 8 series will be affordable with reasonable service costs.

[@1seipai]

Honest review. I don't like the way sports cars are going, too much technology which might be okay in an Ipad or phablet but is not necessary in a sports car. Consider the e46, e92 M3 or 997, technology assisting the experience not dulling it.

[@Cosmic_Gypsy]

What a realistic review! What’s crap is crap. No need to make it look good. Especially the comparison with the 3 series. I would give a 100 likes if i could just for that one comparison!

[@borginator1493]

Yes it indeed does resemble a Mustang!

[@boondockbwoy14]

??

[@tywang]

Do you also narrate for watchfinder?

[@QBIX04]

Thumbs up for Rapha

[@aowen1079]

Henry... You have always been a great car guy... I just dont get why you didnt do your homework on this one. The exhaust are actually real. And even your favorite brand Ford pipes fakery into the cabin. Every car manufacturer does it... And we need to get over it and move on... Anyway love the videos and Better luck next time around.

[@boondockbwoy14]

Tell 'em bruh that's straight facts right there not a lot of people do their research man..and this looks nothing like a stang too you know it

[@IamJDMable]

Ugh, do we not get the diesel in the US? Not that I can afford either, but the diesel actually seems really nice!

[@zy_h0099]

What happen to the previous video ??!

[@ky820717]

I think this car is good. But it deserve to be an 6 series badge. not 8 series I hope the m8 gran coupe can look exactly like the concept

[@boondockbwoy14]

I agree with you all the way, and to all these blinded buffoons who wanna claim it a mustang smh just plain dumb honestly lol

[@stephen9869]

BMW needs to put the 6.6 V12 biturbo from the M760li in to these

[@jamessheehy4895]

Is this basically a wraith?

[@randalljames1]

The 6 series has gone through a lot of change from the drivers point of view.. Going from the 640 to the 650i and xi, the car went from a much more nimble road car to a heavier feeling luxury hot rod... Not all bad but the 645 to the 650 are completely different cars. Power levels are obvious from the seat. The 645 would have loved the extra power. Noise levels were reduced very well in the 650 but it lost some "corner" ability with the weight gain.. What sucked about the 650 was in 2013 they hushed the exhaust note down.. The 2012 is easily the nicest sounding member of the lineup IMHO.. Throaty, rippy and a nice pop on upshifts..(also 8 speed auto) . The i8? is a unique feeling BMW and very similar to the C4 Alfa with a far more civil feel and sound. (C4 is a blast to drive) Been very fortunate to have all these cars in the stable.. Looking forward to the 8 series.. Technology? bluetooth music is nice from Prime.. the rest? meh.... Google does a far better job of navigating

[@whitecreek]

Where exactly in Spain did you film the video? As long as you're allowed to tell, of course....

[@adrianwhaleandroid]

It's Málaga. I live very near there

[@whitecreek]

@@adrianwhaleandroid Nice. Thanks I thought it might be the mountains sorrounding Segovia.... until I saw the sea :) Thx!!