Good review. But not really a fair one. Of course the GV80 is better. It's a more expensive, more luxurious RWD architecture rig. A better matchup would've had the Aviator here.
@scorpio19612 ай бұрын
👍
@nautilusman2 ай бұрын
The comparison here is absolutely ridiculous.
@arnoldwilson5377Ай бұрын
A Lincoln Nautlius Black Label would have been a fair comparison
@canadabear72Ай бұрын
@arnoldwilson5377 Whether it's good enough or not is a matter of opinion. My assertion was that the Nautilus isn't a good comparison because it's fwd and a class smaller than the GV80.
@marky249811 күн бұрын
@@canadabear72 the Nautilus is AWD not FWD
@SimonGonzalOS2 ай бұрын
Nautilus exterior looks soooo good. Kind of wild I like it more than Genesis but Lincoln nailed that
@MrVroom12 ай бұрын
The correct outcome. Genesis is in a different league above the Lincoln.
@nautilusman2 ай бұрын
Except the Genesis costs A LOT more than the Lincoln. This comparison doesn't work for me.
@MrVroom12 ай бұрын
@ and it’s worth every penny of it and everyone can see why.
@larrycameron36022 ай бұрын
One word. Aviator 😅
@66skate12 күн бұрын
@@larrycameron3602 I agree
@blesscheddafinnie34902 ай бұрын
not a equal comparison u should have a black label lincoln against a prestige gv80
@TheKmj9312 ай бұрын
The same outcome... I own a GV80 Prestige & was considering trading it for a Nautilus Blk Label until I drove it... I'm sticking with my Genesis 😊
@larrycameron36022 ай бұрын
eSire you are. If this was true uou would have copared it to an Aviatorwhich is in the same segment.😊@@TheKmj931😅
@turdferguson28392 ай бұрын
He compares a fully loaded genesis to a mid level Lincoln... not a fair comparison at all. The lincoln is over 10k less, of course its gonna have a few less features.
@LexxLuther10024 күн бұрын
They both are fully loaded. It’s the black edition. wtf😂
@turdferguson283923 күн бұрын
@LexxLuther100 This isn't a Black Label, it just has the black appearance package. The Nautilus Black Label starts at 74k. The model in this video is a level 2 Reserve.
@jeffreyrepace7859 күн бұрын
Should have tested black label aviator vs this
@IanMacias25 күн бұрын
I’ve had the 2025 GV80 for about six months now. The exterior is imposing. The interior is solid. The Bang and Olufsen sound system is amazing. I chose it over an X5 and I don’t regret my decision at all.
@davidmaynard74732 ай бұрын
This is such an unfair comparison. The Nautilus is comparable to t)3 GV70 while t)3 GV80 would be more comparable to an Aviator.
@cwwright83ableАй бұрын
Not only that the trims
@bossK782 ай бұрын
Gv80 all day. Nautilus looks great though.
@LYNDONGOLDEN2 ай бұрын
Lincoln as a brand seems/feels more established, even though they are again pushing for a new image. I love the designs of both of these cars, and would be stressed to pick one over the other.
@mikeharris72612 ай бұрын
I love the front end of the Lincoln
@naveenthemachine2 ай бұрын
Both are exceptional but gv80 gets the win
@canadabear722 ай бұрын
For sure! Love the new Lincoln products too! But this fwd Nautilus isn't up to the GV80's level. Should've had the Aviator. Better matchup.
@marky249811 күн бұрын
@@canadabear72 the Nautilus is awd.
@canadabear7211 күн бұрын
@@marky2498 Yes, of course. But I mean that it's fwd architecture. The GV80 is a proper rwd architecture.
@garlantyrell80302 ай бұрын
Both are beautiful vehicles. Personally, I’d go with the Lincoln Nautilus.
@mattstriz882 ай бұрын
If you want luxury interior which includes things like premium materials, better sound dampening that’s what the black label trim is for… so not testing a black label isn’t a direct comparison. if you want something that’s your average more run of the mill interior you go for the lower trims for Lincoln.
@keithbowers52552 ай бұрын
the Lincoln Black Label interior is more luxurious
@66skate12 күн бұрын
I like the styling of the nautilus way more. The Genesis grill looks too foreign to me. I do like that it offers a V6. lack of a V6 is keeping me from buying the Nautilus. A shame because I like everything else about it. The Genesis may seem nice when new, but I have a feeling it will show it's age faster than the Lincoln, I'm currently looking towards the Aviator because of of the 3.0 and updated tech.
@Antsir122 ай бұрын
Well you have me convinced. I would definitely go with the Lincoln! I love the exterior looks, the better handling, less floating ride, and significantly better fuel economy. If was was into the “bordello” Las Vegas look interior then I guess the Genesis. Thankfully I am not that type of
@steventruong83592 ай бұрын
G80 should be compare with the Aviator. NOT the Nautilus. They're in different class.
@joestuff82 ай бұрын
Yes, but no. They're both midsized crossovers. Comes down to the consumer. Some may want RWD, or some may not even notice or have a care at all RWD vs FWD architecture.
@markcooper78422 ай бұрын
Agreed I don’t think it’s a fair comparison. It looks like the genesis is 80+ and you can get a fairly loaded Nautilis 2025 for the high 60s. 20 grand matters. As others have commented they should’ve compared it to the aviator. I don’t think the bias of rear wheel versus all-wheel-drive is the defining factor. Price is.
@nautilusman2 ай бұрын
@@markcooper7842 Exactly. I bought a loaded Nautilus Reserve with upgraded wheels for a list of $65k - and got a $6k discount down to $59k. OF COURSE an $80k car is going to win in a comparison. This whole review is pretty ridiculous.
@gamingwitharlen2267Ай бұрын
@@joestuff8 Its like comparing an Audi q5 and q8, and saying the q8 is more luxurious. What a comparison.
@FrankieFencepost2 ай бұрын
Nautilus is far superior. Test drove both and Nautilus was far more responsive. . In terms of looks, slam dunk win for Nautilus.
@9375532 ай бұрын
Genesis all the way here!!!
@yahshaunyahu2 ай бұрын
This isn't a good comparison. The nautilus is on the gv70 level, while the aviator is on the gv80 level
@DeeTay0810 күн бұрын
I liked this comparison. I like both but im leaning more toward the Lincoln but honestly for the screen. I think it's so cool 😅 Edit: I was sold on the Lincoln when he said the genesis is a gas guzzler
@Tully36742 ай бұрын
I've said it for a while...Lincoln is all show but no substance. For a Ford product, reliability is mediocre. This SUV (and the brand) have little value. Genesis is what Lexus was 30+ years ago. They bring a full plate to dinner why Lincoln offers a sub sandwich and some chips. The only thing in question for the Genesis brand is reliability. They've improved a bit since 2019, but still behind Acura (which has dropped a few pegs the past few years). I'm team Genesis.
@rtcturnemup70282 ай бұрын
If I’m being honest, every Lincoln still has a ford dynamic feel to it besides navigator. Genesis is boat loads softer and more comfortable than Hyundai … same with caddy an Chevy/ Infiniti an Nissan. Ford is messing up somehow
@RunEmDownTony2 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm team Genesis. They need to work on their engine efficiency and beyyer reliability. They reliability part has improved for sure. Genesis reminds me of Lexus due to the path they are going. But in some cases they are outdoing Lexus and have out done Lexus when Lexus was coming up. As if now when I think of sport luxury believe it or not I think of Genesis. Even with their reliability not being on par with Lexus and efficiency not on par with the Germans, I'd pick owning a Genesis over a Lexus. It's just more of my taste. But when it comes to performance I'd go with BMW.
@nautilusman2 ай бұрын
@@rtcturnemup7028 Nope. Lincoln no longer has that "Ford dynamic." Stop repeating what's been said since forever and is not true.
@rtcturnemup70282 ай бұрын
@@nautilusman it’s been said since forever because it’s true … the only Lincoln’s that don’t feel like a ford are the nautilus, aviator, navigator … otherwise it feels or felt like a ford product in my opinion
@yummy12340982 ай бұрын
That's literally all their models except the corsair...@rtcturnemup7028
@josephsavage90552 ай бұрын
So you tested the mid trim Lincoln with the top trim Genesis 🤔
@bossK782 ай бұрын
Price
@cwwright83ableАй бұрын
Nut shi right
@cwwright83ableАй бұрын
@@bossK78price has nothing to do with it
@66skate12 күн бұрын
This isn't a really experienced reviewer like Alex Dykes or Sofyen Bay. They are the go to guys.
@palmviewlobos15Ай бұрын
To my understanding you said the Hybrid on the Nautilus was almost as good as a Toyota or Lexus. Do remember Ford and Toyota did work together on hybrids back about 10-15 years ago. During the time Ford was developing the Ecoboost.
@NLDMesa062 ай бұрын
Great content as always. I feel the GV80 is often underappreciated and overlooked in this segment. As an aside, whatever your training routine is, it's working for you Cliff.
@cwwright83ableАй бұрын
Horrible...this dude is deceptive he compared a low trim to the highest trim of genesis
@jeffs60902 ай бұрын
I'd definitely go with the Genesis, and I'd get the coupe for sure. My next vehicle!
@TheMessySweetSpotАй бұрын
Who has the best gas mileage
@tylouallen4957Ай бұрын
lincoln
@djb0646Ай бұрын
Thanks for the great review. I tested drive GV70 and Nautilus this year, and agree with the noise part and infortament part. One thing i want to call out is, color really influences our perception of a car. A light color interior or exterior looks at least 20% better than black or grey. The white exterior of nautilus gives the car much better looking, but black interior makes the car looks extremely old and dull. GV80 on the opposite, the white interior boost your feeling to its material, but the dark exterior make it looks lackluster. Imaging if you swap the color of these two car, you may have different comment to them. Not saying the review is incorrect, but we human being really easy to get influenced more than we think.
@markb38662 ай бұрын
Great review . Thanks
@cwwright83ableАй бұрын
Horrible you cant compare mid trim to high trim
@ianlachhander10302 ай бұрын
Just an FYI, Genesis is marketed as a Luxury SUV, not sport/ performance vehicle.
@jeffreyrepace7859 күн бұрын
I like the interior of the lincoln...the dash is amazing. Its all leather and soft touch so not sure what he is yapping about. He just likes the aesthetic of the genesis better
@telliesmith98252 ай бұрын
Everyone that reviews the Lincoln come away very impressed i like the look inside and outside on the Lincoln i know everyone is riding Genesis tip right they can't do know wrong at the moment
@pamelabryant70644 күн бұрын
Genesis, 2025 V6 Love it my dream SUV …
@michaelzebrowski91762 ай бұрын
I would rather have the BMW X5 over either of these SUV's.
@mojorisin73712 ай бұрын
The Lincoln Aviator would be a better comparison especially considering the RWD biased platform. The Nautilus should have never lost the 2.7 twin turbo V6. I'd rather have the 2023 version with the V6 and basic layout. I'm not a fan of the extra electronics that's just distracting rather then helping with anything substantial. So find a good low mileage 2022-23 model especially the black label with the aforementioned motor.
@RexFlashMinistries27 күн бұрын
I had a GV80 and now the Lincoln. Blue cruise is FAR superior to the self driving system on the Genesis. So, I'm sticking with Lincoln. And I care about the mpg too.
@evenstar1131Ай бұрын
Both are great options, but the Genesis would be my choice. The Nautilus Black Label is the correct equivalent to the GV80. The Aviator is a much bigger vehicle.
@renebastille57825 күн бұрын
Just a correction, Lincoln Nautilus was Built in Canada not in the USA.
@RjKing1v12 ай бұрын
nobody else gonna say it so I’m gonna say it the Lincoln nautilus is the girl that will make it through life based on her looks an I’m gonna be the one who fall for it😂… looks so good despite her flaws
@amanti1132 ай бұрын
GV70 vs Nautilus is correct 😊🎉
@naveenthemachine2 ай бұрын
@@amanti113 Corsair is the gv70 competitor
@cwwright83ableАй бұрын
He compared top trim to low trim ...what a joke
@JackSmith-qi7dr2 ай бұрын
Actually, the four popper in the GV80 is peppy and rather refined.
@afordnissan22 ай бұрын
if it was my money i would go for the lincoln because it looks much better than that superman front end genesis. number 2 the nautilus gas mileage is way better than the gv80. theres two things people look for when buying cars. looks and gas mileage. just my two cents
@TheKmj9312 ай бұрын
With a go-kart motor
@afordnissan22 ай бұрын
In today’s time every car has go kart motors
@tylouallen4957Ай бұрын
Everybody saying GV80 until it's time for gas.
@TheKmj9312 ай бұрын
I own a Genesis GV80 & test drove a Nautilus black label & was thoroughly disappointed... The Nautilus lacks alot
@JackSmith-qi7dr2 ай бұрын
A lot
@matthirn785820 күн бұрын
Well, once you indulge in all of the upgrades, the Genesis should walk away with it, but the cost of those upgrades puts it in another class.
@joegraziadei7895Ай бұрын
To Mr. Vroom, I must apologize. I am comparing it to the 2025 GV 80 in the 2025 Nautilus black label this is for the 2024 model.
@f1b17772 ай бұрын
Question why was this vid so long after the 5 min .?
@王杰杰-i7v5 күн бұрын
in China u can actually buy a GV80(basic version)as well as TWO nautilus(basic version)with a same price.
@consultngaАй бұрын
Wow talk about a bias review. Even when you clearly like something of the Lincoln better you seem to bend over backwards to apologize about it. My neighbor has the GV70 and after much research and test drives I have the new Lincoln. This is certainly Not your grandfather’s Lincoln. Lincoln hit a home run. And as far as made in China, where is your phone made??
@cwwright83ableАй бұрын
I agree very deceptive guy he used top trim of Genesis and compared the low trim of Nautilius... alot of ppl arent familiar with trim....azzhole
@rosspierrot2 ай бұрын
Also, the Lincoln is Chinese made. It's a shame they refuse to build this car in the US.
@whalegh68612 ай бұрын
Genesis is on another level ! You should've compared it with luxury German cars.
@PaulHo2 ай бұрын
This is a great cross shop. QX60 who?
@jameskim99092 ай бұрын
So proud to be korean lol gogogo GV80
@tomfaz41932 ай бұрын
Okay take your pick the Lincoln is made in China and the Genesis is made in South Korea. Look out for tariffs in 2025.
@Ryan2022Ай бұрын
Oh look a Joy Reid bot
@TheSinghoff5 күн бұрын
Watch the first 2 min and you realize it’s Genesis for the win
@johnphanvongkham72782 ай бұрын
Gv80,please move the license plate out the rear bumper, it will look good and right now look like something hanging on the A
@Ryan2022Ай бұрын
Lincoln no longer mentions Bridge of Weir Leather. Pathetic
@joegraziadei7895Ай бұрын
To Mr. room the 2025 Nautilis black label loaded comes to like 76K the GV 80 loaded is over 85K $10,000 difference in every single category. The Lincoln is better but one the Genesis has better performance and handling but other than that, the Lincoln as far superiorthis is fat. I don’t even think it’s up for an argument or a debate. Just look at the numbers.
@johnherrera755111 күн бұрын
A better march would be RX350.
@marcus_3132 ай бұрын
Y'all must be on the genesis payroll gv80 don't compete against the nautilus it goes against the aviator and then y'all didn't even have the fully loaded one that's unfair lol
@peteharris5562 ай бұрын
A whole lot of personal opinions here relating to looks, noise, the smell, etcetera. Keep in mind there's $10,000 separating these cars. I owned a Hyundai once. I'll never do it again
@tarachippy2 ай бұрын
I owned a top of the line Kia Telluride and I'll never own a Kia again. Problem after problem and recall after recall. Once the trim around the windows started falling off and I was told not to use a car wash anymore I was done and got rid of it.
@JackSmith-qi7dr2 ай бұрын
Actually closer to $13k difference but he is spending your money in this review.
@SKANDaR087512 күн бұрын
None, they depreciate so fat that 80 K is less than 20k in 4 years
@robertadoue83742 ай бұрын
I would buy the Lincoln over the Genesis. The resale in Genesis is horrible, and I protect buy an American car over Korean!
@carloss51332 ай бұрын
You mean you prefer a Chinese car over a Korean car.
@dma1242 ай бұрын
Yeah. Good luck finding ANYTHING American. Even the “Buick Envista” is Korean.
@박동석-u7u2 ай бұрын
american cars are just garbage
@SALSAKID49Ай бұрын
I'll take the 2025 Genesis GV80 over, any Lincoln
@AllyMcLesbian2 ай бұрын
A Chinese Lincoln does not convince me at all. Sure feels like it based on this review.
@keithbowers52552 ай бұрын
Lincoln looks better
@박동석-u7u2 ай бұрын
no wayyyyyy
@raywillingham54912 ай бұрын
Nautilus me please!!!
@CalebHerscherАй бұрын
Stay away from Lincoln, do your homework before to waste your money….
@v12kingV102 ай бұрын
Good comparison. They both kill the mdx
@tarachippy2 ай бұрын
No way they both kill the MDX. I would not spend my money on unreliability, which is what you get with Genesis and Lincoln.
@v12kingV102 ай бұрын
@ acura and honda are the new recall kings. Have scored below average for years
@v12kingV10Ай бұрын
Lincoln > Hyundai Genesis
@amigatommy710 күн бұрын
Too bad about the Lincoln looks.
@Mikezagato152 ай бұрын
Domestics looool. Junk
@brianbarriger855318 күн бұрын
GREAT REVIEW....THANK YOU. My wife has the 2022 Lincoln Nautilus and loves it. The 2024/25 Lincoln redesign got narrower inside and has less cargo space. The seats are also narrower and firmer. And it's built in China now. China??? Ever since Lincoln moved their design team out to California, everything seems more feminine, WOKE and DEI inspired. Hate the small girly steering wheel on the Lincoln. Definitely $10K less in quality and cost, so I get it. The GV80 is pretty sweet, although the quilted seats seem a little strange when you sit on them for the first time. Also, no Air Suspension for $80K, and the GV80 also has some flimsy dash and dial controls knobs. Both are really decent vehicles, so for my wife, she would be happy with either. But on a 3-year lease, either would be OK, so we'll see. The GV80 is sexier, but the Lincoln might be the easier choice. Just renting, not buying!!!! But China......not sure about that one!!!!! Might have to go Korean!!!! * I would be curious to know if the GV80 can run on Regular gas or Premium, where as I believe that the Lincoln can run on Regular gas. That could be a significant difference as well between the two when looking at fuel consumption costs. 😁
@stevec91225 күн бұрын
And...made in China!!.. No thank you!!
@bl-sw9sl2 ай бұрын
gv80 has a hyundai transmission will i need to park it outside
@canadabear722 ай бұрын
This 8 speed transmission works flawlessly. Maybe you're thinking of the 8 speed DCT? Not the same thing, friend.
@dioralcide84902 ай бұрын
The Nautilus has a ford Edge engine you should park it by a dumpster my guy.
@raywillingham54912 ай бұрын
😂😂 yup
@BlackNess002 ай бұрын
Genesis is on another league.
@TheVineEra2 ай бұрын
I think your review sucks
@yonasoh2921Ай бұрын
Who buy GV80 ? trash
@andya90502 ай бұрын
Lincoln sucks 😅 they’ll be crushed by Chinese
@nautilusman2 ай бұрын
You sound medicated.
@andya90502 ай бұрын
@@nautilusmanok sorry but have you seen what the Chinese make these days? Why is it American Big 3 have been routed by Chinese companies because their products are uncompetitive and are overpriced.
@박동석-u7u2 ай бұрын
@@andya9050 because amerucan made ones are way worse that chinese shit
@jameskim99092 ай бұрын
Lincoln looks so ugly
@nautilusman2 ай бұрын
Oh, look, another GM fanboy.
@constantinedimopoulos11102 ай бұрын
The Lincoln looks like a glorified Ford Edge.
@nautilusman2 ай бұрын
It does not. Why do people like you repeat these lies?
@constantinedimopoulos11102 ай бұрын
It may not to you, but it does to me having owned one before. Specifically the outer profile of it, not the inside.
@constantinedimopoulos11102 ай бұрын
@@nautilusman not only is it based on the same platform as the Ford Edge, but it is also built in China.
@JackSmith-qi7dr2 ай бұрын
Not in person.
@jeffreyrepace7859 күн бұрын
@constantinedimopoulos1110you need new glasses
@vegmanwrx22212 ай бұрын
I have looked to buy at both,,,no contest genesis is much better,,,,,Lincoln way to cheap materials inside
@nautilusman2 ай бұрын
Not true.
@FrankieFencepost2 ай бұрын
May wanna educate yourself. What materials you speak of?
@nautilusman2 ай бұрын
@@FrankieFencepost You're the one who brought it up. What Lincoln materials are cheap?
@FrankieFencepost2 ай бұрын
@@nautilusman my reply wasn’t to you ( I think). It was to the guy who said they were cheap materials.
@normansommer15892 ай бұрын
Buy American.
@nautilusman2 ай бұрын
Who made your phone? Your laptop? Your TV?
@박동석-u7u2 ай бұрын
@@nautilusman korean samsung or Lg
@joegraziadei7895Ай бұрын
To Mr. room the 2025 Nautilis black label loaded comes to like 76K the GV 80 loaded is over 85K $10,000 difference in every single category. The Lincoln is better but one the Genesis has better performance and handling but other than that, the Lincoln as far superiorthis is fat. I don’t even think it’s up for an argument or a debate. Just look at the numbers.