Carl Hart: Drug Use For Grownups, A Human Rights Perspective

Carl Hart is the Ziff Professor of Psychology in the Departments of Psychology and Psychiatry at Columbia University. He is currently investigating the behavioral and neuropharmacological effects of psychoactive drugs in human research participants. A major focus of his laboratory-based research is to understand factors that mediate drug self-administration behavior and to develop effective treatments.
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[@QuidamByMoonlight]

I really like this guy. Not only is Dr. Hart doing great work to advance science, but also to advance justice for all in the United States and the world over. Great talk!

[@thereGoMapo]

"The price of freedom is responsibility". Great quote. America is trying to infantilize us to take away that freedom from us.

[@robinsss]

@Richard Forhurholes he should have said liberty

[@robinsss]

yes we're adults the government shouldn't be telling us what to put in our bodies

[@mishmishmish]

@@robinsss v. vvvvhh. by bgg v h. V 98i i have

[@mishmishmish]

@@robinsss . Nmn.

[@wpdrusky]

LOL!

[@caseymisso8603]

This should be broadcasted everywhere and shown to everyone! Too many people aren’t educated on these things.

[@rarefinds8430]

“I’m the one that’s got to die when it’s time for me to die, so let me live my life the way that I want to” - Jimi Hendrix

[@bullterror5]

"I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a prefrontal lobotomy" - Tom Waits

[@ChronicPainInTheAss]

And unfortunately, right now, with the govts push for an opioid free country, people are suffering horribly at the end of life due to overwhelming ignorance!

[@AlexMartinez-cp9bx]

I did 7 months in prison for possession of personal amount of drugs and it was traumatic and stunted the quality of my life and I am not even a drug addict I just use here and there

[@daniellogansa8101]

That’s wack af. No one should be locked up for drugs. It’s like being locked up for eating a burger

[@huihkjify]

Which drug? Which state?

[@dfny914]

@@huihkjify shouldn’t matter

[@lubbyLB]

stop lying. you were an addict

[@antifantastisch4467]

@@lubbyLB Do you know him? Or do you think everyone who owns a drug is automatically an addict?

[@trenaeb18]

This was such a great lecture and way more refreshing after watching his Breakfast Club interview. I understand his point and research better

[@ralphyoung9814]

Facts i believer they were talking past each other on the subject. Envy and Chara were only using there past experience as a response to the research Dr. Hart was trying to present to the conversation. I could see why he was so frustrated talking to them

[@umarscamartistjohnson1784]

Facts

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Lex Fridman interviewed him.

[@claireaudientttttt]

@@l.w.paradis2108ooh I didn’t know that

[@jorher61]

This guy is a true warrior. I love how he calls out these awful bs articles that make it to these journals that so many clinicians believe r absolute truths.

[@lachlantaylor1225]

@SlayThat Pussy why? Come on show us...why don’t you write a counter article and have it published

[@thereGoMapo]

This is a problem in academia in general.

[@MsNooneinparticular]

The only kind of "drug warrior" we need.

[@robinsss]

@SlayThat Pussy ''''But his pathetic give then 10 dollars or some crack one time was a groundbreaking breaking though point for you I'd assume'''' what did that mean?

[@robinsss]

@SlayThat Pussy let's assume that you are right for the people who are addicted to crack the bottom line he is laying out is that for the people who are addicted to crack if crack was legal and taxed at a low rate then they would not steal to get enough to pay for it because it would be cheap enough for them to pay for a daily dose and because of that they could live a pretty normal life

[@nicolasjosephs9910]

Thank god someone is speaking the truth about drugs and drug use and the unconstitutional war on drugs. Our society would be a much better place if all drugs were legal and regulated and available to adults at affordable price. The black market inflates the price of illicit drugs thousands of times their value and adulterates them causing the majority of health problems associated with drug use.... think of the lives that would be saved if drugs were pure and their dosages labeled and properly measured out ? Accidental overdoses would nearly disappear

[@MichaelEstrada]

Would you include PCP when it comes to "all drugs" being legalized? And if so, have you ever seen someone on PCP?

[@SG-hf8pj]

@@MichaelEstrada Anecdotes are not data. So many factors go into a poor experience with a specific drug including the legal ones and alcohol specifically. We need more data, education and resources that legalization would bring. The problems he raised with manufacturing are significant.

[@itsYoduh]

@@MichaelEstrada PCP is an incredibly stigmatized drug, Lets remember that PCP has real medicinal value, stereotypical route of administration for pcp is cigarette dipped in a pcp solution. This results a much more manic, and intense effect. lets also not forget its a powerful anesthetic, and NMDA Antagonists have the potential for the treatment of depression. Ive taken PCP analogues, they allowed me to work through issues/trauma, and become a more compassionate person because of it. Of course there are risks, as there are with everything in life, and it takes a responsible adult to be able to make that decision.

[@LaPetite510]

So why not grow your own ish?

[@Compos_Mentis96]

@@LaPetite510 I can't grow my own LSD.

[@joshuagharis9017]

Legalize, regulate, and reintegrate addicts. We literally shun them and prevent them from success. It's not condoning drug use, it's accepting it. We don't condone cigs, but they're legal.

[@Ivan.A.Churlyuski]

Dependence and addiction are not the same thing. People who take opioids to get high vs people who take opioids because they have a disease, condition or injury that causes daily pain and a good quality of life only sustained by pain medication. The regulators act like they care about the liver and kidney of the people they would have crying for most of their lives.

[@bullterror5]

People are more than just what they do in the Privacy of their own Homes...

[@MrZacharykgwin]

Thanks for being a good person. Keep it up!

[@mitchjames9350]

As long as you keep people accountable and responsible for there actions on drugs plus keep it away from children and use the tax money for hospitals and rehab.

[@willdenham]

@@mitchjames9350 The tax money could also go to infrastructure and creating a universal healthcare system.

[@AbhishekKumar-et4vk]

Doing drugs should be a fundamental right,we have a right to feel good and pleasure.

[@AbhishekKumar-et4vk]

Absolutely, what is the point of having life and existence if we can't feel the pleasure of having it

[@junny3000]

@Nima N rapist get their kicks by violating another human being. Snorting some drugs in my home violates no one

[@junny3000]

@Nima N equating drug use with sex crime is dogmatic. Look at states that have decriminalized weed possession. Has there been a surge of crime or DUIs? Nope. In fact statistics show that loosening drug laws has a positive affect on the community. But hey, keep your 1930s mindset. Ignorance is bliss

[@AbhishekKumar-et4vk]

@Nima N drug users find pleasure within their mind and body, they don't affect others negatively. A rapist hurts the other person that's why it's a crime.

[@bellabear653]

@Nima N rapists are violating someone else's free will and rights a drug user is not harming anyone. You are uneducated and a reason why society is backwards stop listening to the government and start listening to the people who do these experiments.

[@umarscamartistjohnson1784]

The Breakfast Club should be ashamed at how they treated him... excluding Yee

[@Bhfvbji]

Amen !

[@beboldnetwork9335]

100% agree.

[@umarscamartistjohnson1784]

@@beboldnetwork9335 if I was him I would have brought up dj envy affairs and CTG r@p3 case he caught when he was 18 🙃

[@mikeycoronel558]

Even Yee tho. Her pea sized brain still couldn’t comprehend him!

[@Mako7eyes]

Awh man i know as the show presenters they sometimes have to ask silly questions to reflect queries their audience may have but it was so obvious they were just not ready for him

[@chrismichaelis7880]

I just discovered this and wow...what a breath of fresh air...the TRUTH! So impressed with the Dr., bought 2 of his books! Really enjoy him! Keep up the good work!

[@shape9381]

Tell my job this. They think I'm using speed on a low dose.. and they're right! Its like Metal Gear Solid every day up here

[@claireaudientttttt]

😂

[@QuaaludeCharlie]

End the war on drugs!

[@MichaelEstrada]

I don't think you've seen someone on PCP. The only brother I have, uses PCP. In his view, it's for recreation use only. What he doesn't realize is how violent he gets. And the same thing goes for others in my neighborhood, who use PCP.

[@LA-hr3le]

Wait, for decades African Americans have been blaming the affects of drug use and drug selling in the black community on White people, now you want to end the war on drugs? The left is an abomination I swear!

[@ericbrady8965]

End bad drugs in general. “End the war on drugs!” But we’re the biggest consumers.

[@rh81454]

@@LA-hr3le, you associate legalizing drugs with blaming white people and the left as an abomination? Small-government means legalizing drugs and prostitution. I don't blame people for buying drugs or guns (legitimate sales/purchases); I see those as rights that should not be infringed.

[@shyguymuzik9095]

@@MichaelEstrada should your brother go to jail or get treatment?

[@brian-beeler]

Dr. Hart is amazing. He was on Bill O'Reilly 's show years ago and skillfully avoided every landmine O'Reilly threw out at him. Guy's got a brilliant mind.

[@bassreeves2410]

that's not a big feat considering the fact that o'reilly is ...a pinhead.

[@brian-beeler]

@@bassreeves2410 _"that's not a big feat considering the fact that o'reilly is ...a pinhead. "_ He's a pinhead but has a few verb tricks that will trip up almost everyone. One of those tricks is to throw out a compound lie: two sentences, the first with a big lie and a second with a small lie in the hope his guest will compromise with not allowing the big lie but allowing the small lie to get through. This was O'Reilly's plan all along. The big lie was a throwaway all along to get the guest to validate the small lie. He tried that on Dr. Hart about the lie that marijuana is as dangerous as alcohol and Dr. Hart skillful avoided the trap. O'Reilly and Trump are similar in that they have a few verb tricks that have carried them much too far in life. Also being chronic sexual predators and raging narcissists.

[@kurtniznik8116]

Dr. Hart is my hero. Everything he is talking about and has researched validates my lifetime of experience and observation. We live in an insane society and drug prohibition is one of our greatest madnesses.

[@_el_louie_213]

your hero is a heroine addict.

[@kurtniznik8116]

@@_el_louie_213 YOU SMART

[@AlexMartinez-cp9bx]

You are my hero Dr Carl Hart

[@BushyHairedStranger]

Carl has been courageously speaking up on drug legalization for about a year now, and he deserves acknowledgment for this. Look up his research on Amphetamines, its incredible and highly intelligent data. Accurate.

[@ChronicPainInTheAss]

It's been A LOT longer than a year. I can't tell you how long I've been following him but I just looked at my copy of the paperback version of his book High Price and came out in 2014. He was fighting the good fight long before that!

[@BushyHairedStranger]

@@ChronicPainInTheAss Carl only supported decrim up until around 2021, then he suddenly switched over to FULL DRUG LEGALIZATION around 2020-2021..so sometime in there he had a significant change of heart. He didn’t support legalization at Horizons 2019, I was there in the front row listening to his talk on Psychedelic Elitism intently.

[@BushyHairedStranger]

@@ChronicPainInTheAss my point is that at one point Carl didn’t support full across the board drug legalization until 2021,,, theres a HUGE difference between Decriminalized drugs & Legalizing all illicit drugs! Ive followed Carls work since he co-published in ‘Drugs, Society, & Human Behavior’ the 17th edition ie; 2017. High Price wasn’t all that great a work in my opinion… the last chapters are okay… Drug Use for Adults is his best book so far.

[@jamesvolkerding5892]

Im so grateful to discover this discussion. One whom has struggled his entire life in this subject and appropriately tried on all the mechanisms of state funded rehab in our heartland to inevitably return to what produced relief, heroin. As the dope gL

[@lxLanarchyxl]

feels bad, way to expensive to maintain and i understand you o too well

[@ChronicPainInTheAss]

insightpain.blogspot.com/

[@karmandanecek4309]

Wow It's about time! I'm so excited to learn more about this! Thanks to the 🏥 Dr! 👍

[@Ivan.A.Churlyuski]

480,000 die from tobacco.. do we stop that? But something that actually helps people have better lives without pain must be restricted.

[@joshuagharis9017]

We don't condone drinking at 8am, but liquor stores can open then in many states.

[@justinrauch651]

End the war on drugs! We have a right to be in whatever state of mind we want..its only plants!

[@BushyHairedStranger]

Yup! Heroin(Poppies), methamphetamine(Ephedra) all come from plants and should be legal for adults to use as they freely see fit. Its no wonder so many friends have moved to Mexico & abroad to escape the imperialist US drug gulags! Prisons!!

[@dannyboy7673]

Ya plants like meth and poppers and xannies Xd

[@robinsss]

@Gazola Gazola cocaine is natural though to make opium you just boil poppies '''''''''Let’s see him without his daily dose You and me both know it won’t be pretty!''''''' which is why legalization would be the best idea an addict could get his daily dose for a very low price and live a very normal life

[@robinsss]

@Gazola Gazola cocaine is a drug that is already in each coca leaf before any picks the leaf from the plant since that is the case , cocaine is a natural drug

[@paradoxthought2656]

Dr carl heart is the goat

[@wpdrusky]

What's goat again? Sorry..

[@martinnogueras6025]

I think he meant gold?...

[@nickstarz9316]

You said time runs short ? The time never stops ticking? And God bless what you have said. Amen

[@tholithembamzobe9420]

You are brilliant my brother. A shining light.

[@no.1.2.u]

Ever wanna comment something that isn't negative at all but you think of how most people would get the wrong idea like, entirely? So then your original post turns into a whole comment section that's not only wrong in response to you, but is now there for anyone who wants to include themselves in the degrading- destruction of who or what, the post is about. And even who the post's, from, sometimes. Damn man. As much as I'd love to hear the responses to what I wanted to say, I'm just gonna say that this man Carl Hart has my utmost respect. There's not too much that I wouldn't agree with but all in all it's fulfilling to know that science has him as a part of their team.

[@joshuarhoades5569]

enviroment is everything..Purpose is what drives any person. With the sense of living in purpose I don't believe anyone would become addicted to the point where They will allow drugs to stop them from fulfilling their purpose. How we educate and support our children and their passions will determine how a person handles their own mental health and successs

[@germanmeza5193]

So happy someone from my city is out here speakin truth

[@canadaeast8358]

This is the only person I heard explain powder coke and crack correct .

[@boogeritus2488]

If I could meet anyone in this world right now it would be this guy

[@wpdrusky]

LOVE THIS GUY!, HE'S A REAL ONE

[@libertyforamericanow]

Dr carl, can you write me a prescription?

[@bobpelley5093]

You're a great man Dr.Hart!The only man I know who actually is in the fight!Good luck and God Bless you!Where do I sign up for the opiate experiments?

[@MrZacharykgwin]

Ethan Naddelman, Johan harri, Hamilton morris, Milton Friedman are all who come to mind

[@ChronicPainInTheAss]

Not the only one by a long shot but yes, I agree, he's a really intelligent man with a great message.

[@user-dy5ho4sj2w]

I love Dr. Carl Hart. Always feels like he has to hide how cool he is because of the bland audiences he speaks to. But thank goodness he is speaking to these people and helping to open their minds. Be like Dr. Carl Hart.

[@pb8582]

I always find it funny when a professor say thank you to be here, that already show that he is down on earth passionate about his work. We should thanks you not the other way but you still do

[@bullterror5]

Yes because this Topic traditionally has a small audience...

[@pb8582]

@@bullterror5 it should not tho... Hopefully we will see more people coming out of they drug use

[@claytonstoots2821]

Great man #Dr.CarlHart I am fed up with this policy in this country as well and would move myself and my family if I could.

[@bullterror5]

You're not alone - Portugal is looking extremely inviting & it's more than just their Castles 🙃

[@AaronaCreates]

This is a very good talk 👍🏽 Ignorance is not only deadly it’s expensive regardless of the topic. America is about capitalism and drugs are another area to be manipulated so the government can be profitable. Awareness can save more lives👍🏽

[@jhtan7502]

51K??? This needs more views!!!!

[@kp6215]

Sanity like my dad a pharmacist and V P for Eli Lilly in 1968 said drugs should not be illegal!

[@heruone3249]

But they are

[@Ardante11]

They’re illegal because they can get into the wrong hands and the impact can be short or long term.

[@cysilversoul]

@@Ardante11 drug education and regulation is how you deal with that, you don’t imprison users.

[@Ardante11]

@@cysilversoul I’m only for imprisonment for abusers of the rehab process. People who can function off drugs are a danger because they can produce children with a myriad of health issues. I wish education was enough but it’s not. People can be educated and still be irresponsible. My last statement....NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE STREETS!!!

[@cysilversoul]

@@Ardante11 Education is plenty, you clearly have very little drug education otherwise you wouldn’t be so scared of these substances. As far as your last statement re-selling drugs from pharmacy’s is already illegal, not to mention if we de-stigmatized drug use it’ll be easier to keep it away from children. And yes, this applies to the inner city but I fail to see the relation.

[@ericjones4983]

I've been doing drugs for my whole life and I feel exactly the same as this guy does I swear I wish I would of went to school I would help you teach the word

[@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904]

Can you imagine being this guy and the bus/train gets you to a meeting late 🤦🏽‍♂️.

[@jamesrobinson5672]

He is the 21st century, Timothy Leary. Interesting information.

[@strangebrew1231]

Timothy Leary was a CIA plant to discredit the drugs and movement

[@JamesConley1234]

Yeah I love him, and agree with everything he says. I saw his Rogan interview recently where he did say he used drugs. He was a little too lit up in this one, but it happens. I'm sure he's okay but would probably do best to not get too high for lectures etc. That can't be that much fun from experience.

[@moonwrusse5649]

Assuming he's "too high" I presume you can claim what substance he's taken? Or a combination? Could you tell the difference if he hadn't slept properly for 2 days? By making comments like "he's too lit in this one" is completely missing the whole point of the lecture.

[@MsNooneinparticular]

Bro doesn't get high to give lectures. It's something he does to relax and on weekends with his wife. If you read the book you'd know that. Pretty presumptuous of you. Not all drug users just pop pills or shoot up at any given time.

[@fuzzymath6240]

1:08:18 Jefferson also wrote (I THINK it was in one of the letters between him and Adams) that every plantation owner should grow at least an acre of medicinal hemp to ensure it's availability. Freedom=responsibility and responsibility=freedom which we are giving up at an accelerated rate.

[@tonyberkel6323]

This was very informative and I only wish to have an opportunity to talk to you in discovering future possible solutions that can awaken our sleeping society. Tony Berkel

[@antonballard2212]

Bless you Carl Hart!

[@HeritageWealthPlanning]

Len Bias! Broke my heart

[@marcosul3992]

Len bias would not surprise me if the gov killed him to use him as an excuse to pass the new laws

[@MsNooneinparticular]

Big Pun! Broke my heart. Heart disease from obesity. No drugs in his system. Should we ban large servings of unhealthy food?

[@FreeJulianAssange23]

Dr. Carl Hart is the most educated, experienced and skilled yet people with nothing but an opinion still argue. There is a world epidemic called Dunning Kruger's are taking over the world.

[@fowlermasonknoll]

Carl Hart to use the parlance of our times, is a straight up Motherfucking OG. The highlight of my life was introducing him at a Harm Reduction Conference in Denver in 2012. My twitter profile picture is of he and I. I can’t wait for his new book- I love that he has the balls to admit to substance use himself, I agree with everything he says about how AA can sometimes create scenarios where Folks feel the need to “awfulize” their drug use in order to fit the narrative that AA pushes that all drug use is inherently evil- even though the co-founder of AA, Bill Wilson, used LSD and embraced it openly.

[@novkorova2774]

Indeed, the culture of opinion, people who do not put their time inmatters yet they still have an opinion. For anyone who is interested in drugs and knowledge I recommend checking out on Antonio Escohotado.

[@HeritageWealthPlanning]

What is Dunning Kruger’s?

[@FreeJulianAssange23]

@@HeritageWealthPlanning ahahah. Psychology proves the dumbest people believe they are the smartest. The two psychologists to come up with this had the last names Dunning and Kruger.

[@FreeJulianAssange23]

@@fowlermasonknoll If you are serious, wow, you are so lucky.

[@alex-oe8xj]

very interesting speech......

[@johnwalters7415]

Seems to me most people on here are wanting them to make it easier to do and get drugs than to get help to stop

[@decypherpunk9729]

Had to watch with 1.25 playback speed he talks slow but no doubts as this man's speaking faxx

[@ryanini999]

Yeah I think he's nervous. But definitely all good stuff he's saying here, I agree!

[@brannonmcclure6970]

Hello Dr. Hart.

[@rjgarnett]

Why didn't he talk about the Adverse Childhood Experience (Fillitti and Anders) studies which show that if you encounter a person with a drug addiction there is an 80% chance they will have experienced one or more types of childhood abuse? Sexual, physical, psychological abuse. That's where it starts.

[@uMadness]

​@@notificationsareblocked.yo53 Hey I'm curious, what ideas exactly do you think are dangerous and irresponsible ? I heard him say drugs should be legalized and regulated for sale to Adults, like alcohol. I also heard him say that there should be drug testing centers where people can go and test their drugs for purity because most OD's are from cut drugs combinations. Both ideas which I think are completely necessary at this time

[@lachlantaylor1225]

@@notificationsareblocked.yo53 everything he said was rational. Just because you flew too close to the sun doesn’t change that

[@Froggy77100]

Simple. It's a different subject all together.

[@l21n18]

@@notificationsareblocked.yo53 he mentioned the link between mental health and addiction quite prominently goofus, geez listen to the words. You’re worried about impressionable kids following advice, uh did you happen to notice the title of the talk. He has an “agenda” what agenda does he have exactly? Ya when someone has a book published they want people to buy it, that’s kinda the idea. I love how you mention your own mindless experience like that’s supposed to be an argument

[@l21n18]

@@notificationsareblocked.yo53 what did he say that was so bad? Seems pretty rational to me

[@diveinnjim]

unfortunately the christian right will never agree to people making their own choices and having fun, god forbid.

[@daniellogansa8101]

Right? Even tho a lot of them are high af behind closed doors

[@ctrain9257]

@@daniellogansa8101 that’s a lie you can’t group people together... and being sober and not high on drugs is a better life

[@daniellogansa8101]

@@ctrain9257 I mean the Christian Right generally has certain views. I agreed with a generalization based on facts. As for most of them are high: most people drink or use drugs, full sobriety is rare. Not all Christians or right wingers are like that. As for life is better without drugs: the science shows that drug/alcohol use in moderation leads to better outcomes/reported quality of life than excessive drug use and complete abstinence. So yes drugs are generally good for people, cept for the small percentage of people with underlying mental health issues who develop addiction.

[@ctrain9257]

@@daniellogansa8101 I doubt drug use throughout your life constantly will lead to good health. I mean that just doesn’t even seem logical and this guy says he snorts sometimes 10 days in a row and who knows how much In one setting. Because you can’t just keep ingesting a drug or alcohol and not have any long term effects over a period of time. And also if you’re a Christian then yeah you shouldn’t do any drugs because God said be “sober minded” so living by his Word is what you should do if you consider yourself a Christian.

[@daniellogansa8101]

@@ctrain9257 if you want to disagree with science that’s on you. Drinking a small glass of alcohol or two every night has been proven to be healthy for your heart as one example. Also I’m sure you can find examples of Christian drug users, not everyone is evangelical or Mormon. Hell, Catholics even drink wine in church. I’m not saying that addiction is good, just that moderation has been shown to be healthy for the mind in most cases and body in a lot of them.

[@bullterror5]

I applaud Dr Hart for disclosing his recreational Drug Use & Walking his Talk on the critical importance of successful professionals disclosing their Drug Use as an effective method of de-stigmatising Drug Use & particularly non-problematic Drug Use. I will comment though that his Professional Status allows a lot more room for such disclosures, as opposed to say a McDonald's Worker, Taxi Driver, General Practitioner, Lawyer, Police Officer, Psychologist or a Politician. In Australia the Law requires our Federal & State Parliaments to provide Syringe Disposal Facilities on site - and yes they are utilised, but Public Opinion, as uninformed or prejudiced as it may be, can destroy a Politicians Career a lot easier than a Professor's Career, given that a Professor has been so well esteemed by their Peers, Profession & Employer that they are entrusted & honoured with the Position of Educating & Influencing the next Generation, maybe even going further & Publishing their Research Findings in Journals or Authoring Books on their area of expertise - something no successful Educational Facility is willing to lose over something as minor as Recreational Drug Use. So yes it's fantastic Dr Hart is courageously living by the words he writes & yet we still have a very long way to go before others can join him... "In a startling new book, Drug Use for Grown-Ups, the Ivy League professor argues that the dangers of recreational drug use have been wildly overstated. “I am now entering my fifth year as a regular heroin user,” writes Carl Hart in his revelatory new book, Drug Use for Grown-Ups. Fifty-four-year-old Hart is the Ziff professor of psychology at Columbia University. Regular heroin use and high academic achievement are not two pursuits that we expect to see in the same life story. At least not openly. Heroin is by popular consensus the worst of drugs, the one that leaves users hopelessly strung-out and slavishly addicted. How can you be a regular user and hold down a prestigious Ivy League professorship? And why would you admit to it? There are few areas of modern life that are shrouded in quite so much misinformation and hypocrisy as recreational drug use. There seems to be a never-ending criminal justice battle to thwart ever more sophisticated and ruthless drug dealers, while at the same time the appetite for recreational drugs increases across all sectors of society. But beneath the social and moral debate is a vital scientific question: are recreational drugs harmful in themselves? It’s hard to recall a more unapologetic defence of hard drug consumption. What’s particularly powerful about Hart’s testament is that it’s not written by a beat poet or avant-garde artist, but a highly regarded research scientist whose area of expertise is neuropsychopharmacology - the study of the neurological and behavioural effects of drugs on people. But what if they aren’t as harmful as the authorities maintain and what if the damage done to communities should be attributed to poverty and criminalisation of drugs, rather than the psychoactive effects?"

[@o.o1775]

I would do anything to take a course with him!

[@themeerkat6034]

Dude his crowd sucksssss. I feel for Mr. Hart in this one, its hard to give a presentation when the crowd is acting like zombies.

[@mikeycoronel558]

They are college students what do you expect

[@themeerkat6034]

@@mikeycoronel558 fake laughs at the very least

[@HeritageWealthPlanning]

has less than 5k views after a year of being posted on KZbin. But man, post something about Cardi B or something and millions of views. Has society ALWAYS been this shallow?

[@God_first_1999]

Technological age my man

[@sarahdixon6011]

Yep

[@pandemija02]

KZbin algorithm

[@musicaconsubtitulos]

What does the Ziff stand for? Cheers

[@nibblrrr7124]

Academic positions like professorships, sometimes even entire institutes, are often named in honor of someone who donated large sums of money to fund their research or teaching - similar to e.g. hospital wings or the Nobel prize. In this case, that would be Dirk Ziff, a billionaire businessman who inherited lots of money in 1994 and probably donated some to Columbia University's psychology department.

[@830audio6]

I thought the channel said GHB Forum Network

[@nibblrrr7124]

Glad I'm not the only one. Talk about advocating for drugs that have a bad image... 😅

[@sams8502]

Very intelligent person and I agree with majority of what he's saying. That being said, you can tell over the years he has more anxiety/stress in his voice. He doesn't speak as smooth and freely 5-7 years ago.

[@MalakkarVohryzek]

He's also speaking in a very formal setting, it's clearly got him uncomfortable. HIs icebreaker failed to get a response. Public speaking before a stone cold quiet audience is intimidating for even experienced comedians. It's got to be even more difficult to talk on taboo subjects, albeit drug policy reform is becoming more and more accepted in modern society, after over 50 years of failed (federal) prohibition. I hope he's not pushing himself too hard. We need people like him to provide the science to back drug policy reform... IMO and YMMV.

[@chocmilk10]

@@MalakkarVohryzek He’s high as hell.

[@chimaogeibe2921]

“Anxiety/stress” = the effects of drugs

[@l21n18]

@@chocmilk10 well then he’s not anxious

[@l21n18]

@@chimaogeibe2921 ya ok

[@armindeljkic5444]

I would choose this amazing person to be a king of the whole world ❤️

[@FrederickSelmon]

Very interesting 🤔

[@wpdrusky]

I wish there were more QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!

[@damoos3.]

he was high during this speech

[@jukodebu]

obviously

[@petersuvara]

When was this talk recorded?

[@GBHForumNetwork]

Nov. 14, 2019 at Boston College. Here's the page on our website: forum-network.org/lectures/drug-use-grownups-human-rights-perspective/

[@richardmoores]

Can’t believe magic mushrooms are illegal. I’ll continue to do them regardless

[@jukodebu]

What do they call someone who nearly fails medical school ? Doctor

[@flipflop6525]

I loved the Upton Sinclair quote.

[@TheBadpav]

Oh God, he sounds high during this speech. I've heard a lot of talks by Dr. Hart and I've never heard this cadence or level of slurring. Kinda funny.

[@debostep2220]

I would be happy if he WAS high

[@AndreJohanssonAJ]

I noticed that to. Wonder whats the reason for it

[@God_first_1999]

Let the man vibe

[@God_first_1999]

@@bobTom37 nice edit 👍

[@flipflop6525]

I figured it was because he was talking to a younger crowd. That he was carefully choosing his words.

[@wpdrusky]

DON'T YOU God DAMMED LEAVE US! YOU ARE EVERYTHING TO ME AND US AND EVERYTHING YOU'VE FOUGHT FOR, I JUST FOUND YOUR WORK TODAY BECAUSE I'M DEDICATED TO DEFEATING AND SEVERING MY DRUG ADDICTIONS, (NOT METH RELATED THANK GOD)

[@nicolinadoe6427]

Cold water extraction for Percocet harm reduction

[@MsNooneinparticular]

Yep. I do it daily for codeine w/ Tylenol. It's annoying af but worth it to protect my liver.

[@FastSloW-qt8xf]

Thats why you do it .. to protect your liver🤣

[@NobodyUR]

Tell your doctor your not comfortable with the acetaminophen. Most will put you on oxycodone rather than hydrocodone. This obviously doesn't work for black market but if your a prescription I recommend it. Taking 325mg of tylenol per dose daily is much worse for you. If you still need the boost add the aspirin yourself as a stack when needd

[@God_first_1999]

It looks like he was giving a talk to the wrongggg group of people They didn’t not look like they were having any of what he was trying to teach

[@God_first_1999]

Regardless

[@God_first_1999]

Doesn’t really matter wether he was on drugs or not his points remain the same

[@Competitive_Antagonist]

He was either on drugs or needed drugs during that lecture. Something wasn't right about him. He is visibly stressed and struggling to find the words sometimes.

[@God_first_1999]

@@Competitive_Antagonist I feel like we could argue on this subject for a while and neither of us would change our viewpoints on the matter , so I’ll respectfully agree to disagree.

[@robinsss]

@@bobTom37 they do pay taxes and raise kids so it's true

[@TheJoshmarc77]

Quite a great talk ! ! !

[@IVIain]

Is it just me or did it start hitting him @1:06:00 Or shortly after or is it just me listen for his voice

[@IVIain]

@1:10:00 My bad if he is good for him I have a passion for drugs but don’t know how to make a living out of that

[@ShrimpTechStocks]

More people drive cars than do heroin. So the death number comparison in the beginning few seconds, was not what I expected

[@jorher61]

Yes, but didn’t he break it down? Looks like he might have, but didn’t explain that. He’s just texting to make a point about how there’s a lot of deaths d/t car accidents, but no one is trying 2 ban cars. Also, you might b surprised how many people do use drugs. I’m in a position 2 b witness to this in several ways and 🤯

[@jjfghjpnwf5119]

He just wanted to say that its irrational to ban potentially dangerous activities, but rather we could educated people on how to be safer while doing those activities.

[@kevinblackandwhite8273]

Boss inna di building! Likkle but talawah!

[@nonamebleach]

People can do what they want as long as I don’t have to pay for it. I’m not paying more taxes so people can get their drugs analyzed and weighed up. Nor am I going to pay more taxes so people can have a public trap house. with that said. I think every drug should be legalized and we should let the private sector find ways to make things safer and work on awareness and education. There are many approaches. While we are doing that we can still try to mitigate and deter using by getting to the root of the reasons why people take these substances.

[@MsChmpnprzr]

Not going to exaggerate, he sounds and looks stressed/anxious. Not sure of the cause but his Ted Med was much smoother. But that was years ago.

[@thomasknowles7311]

I say this without judgment... He is now a regular heroin user.

[@MsChmpnprzr]

@@thomasknowles7311 yes, I remember him saying that. I don't think he believes it's fogging his mind.

[@MsChmpnprzr]

@@thomasknowles7311 I also wonder will his perception change after 15-20 years. Only time will tell. SMH Let me know if you learn of anything. Tia!

[@MeridethSpriggs]

Imagine he is that brilliant that if he is on anything in this recording he is still able to get his point across. Notice the slip up at 8:19 and the hand twitches and eyes going back and forth, that may just be residual from doing heavy drugs and not mean he is high.

[@TheMexlalo]

It's normal to be stressed out. Imagine the inocent people incarcerated, the stigma of drugs, the drug cartels, the corrupt politicians receiving money from cartel's in order to maintain drugs illegal. I totally understand why he might be stressed out.

[@nicolinadoe6427]

21:49

[@heatherscott1002]

Yes me too

[@tinafoster8665]

This is interesting cuz this guy is focusing on the people who don't do stupid things when they do drugs, which are the vast majority of people and it is really kind of amazing that more people don't admit that. For starters the majority of people are people who are pretty much okay with their lives and don't need drugs anyway, the only people who do are people with some slight psychological imbalance and what may cause a chemical imbalance but sometimes people go through it, and find the world of rehab to be more to their liking. It's all looking about a place to be and it's not about just being around people who do drugs, that's the way the prohibition matrix makes it, where drug users have to flock into these under siege groups that are then assaulted by the drug police and their stupid ass tactics. Can anyone deny that the drug police and their stupid task forces all across the nation have created literally thousands of hell holes, stupid little communities of stupid little people who all rat each other off because that is how they get treated by the drug police and the courts in the local areas? They have turned the entire society and do a culture of sleazo is, this is not just the drug world but it percolates around into the other areas of society. Of course the drug police are too stupid to know this, let's talk about how stupid the drug police are in other areas. I remember once seeing a new spot where the task force wanted to crack some real hard cases, so they found a girl who had gotten busted with an ounce of weed, a college girl right? So they sent her in with a few $2,000 to some hard cases, to try and get cocaine in a gun and they found a wire and killed the girl and then the cops were so stupid that they didn't even catch the guys, the guys got clean away. Just left the dead girl took their drugs and their guns and just ran off! This is how smart the drug police are

[@Resinpro]

The amount of money the cops have become reliant on from the drug war, the prison industrial complex, annual budgets to law enforcement paid for by our taxes... its in the trillions annually. All to continue (the insanity) of fighting a war on an inanimate object. Which has ONLY proven, for nearly one hundred years now, by every measurable metric, to be an abstract failure. Every time, and always. What have we achieved (a small partial list) A: Ever cheaper drugs on the street, annually. B: More drugs (and without any standardized purity) on the street, annually. C: More deaths from the impurity issue that a black market promotes (see B). D: Multiple generations of destroyed families and their family members locked up in the privatized prisons. Highest incarceration rate in the world, by several multitudes. With high probability of those convicted reoffending or being stuck in lesser quality of life as the record follows them for life, and effects housing/employment. E: Large scale corruption (from the monetary potential of drugs-caused entirely FROM the prohibition) of our policing and judicial systems.... literally every level of law enforcement, from street cops all the way up to the CIA. G: Loss of personal freedoms for everyone, all based around the arguments of morality and safety. Its like a master class on how to make anything possibly conceivable (in regards to drug use) worse than any substance, or its use, ever could have been. You couldn't make a worse or more ass backwards plan if you spent a lifetime trying. The pinnacle of failure has been achieved, and promoted to this very day. Meanwhile, as Dr. Hart correctly pointed out, many other countries have long ago solved these issues, and/or would further solve these issues, if they weren't being bullied by the USA to continue the failed drug war.

[@FSantora]

You may feel it should be legal to drug yourself to death "just like you can drink yourself to death" but a 21 or 18 year old doesn't have the fully formed brain you do, and generally it's a lot harder to drink to death than OD. Puking, for example, as opposed to ODing before your body can react. There's always going to be a black market for drugs too, not so for alcohol. More opportunities to OD.

[@punkrockdruidess]

Did we forget about prohibition and illegal stills and bars? Alcohol was once illegal too. If it were made illegal today, you can bet your bottom people would still be brewing their own. There's only ever a black market when things have been made "illegal"

[@FSantora]

@@punkrockdruidess You are making my point for me. The 2nd part of your response is patently false- in states where pot is now legal for recreational use, illegal sales haven't dipped much if at all. So why don't we have massive bootlegging of alcohol now? Because it's not worth it. People DO brew their own by the way (wine, craft beer, etc.) but it's cheaper to just buy it just like it's still cheaper to buy your weed on the black market. "There's only ever a black market when things have been made "illegal"" - WRONG. There IS A BLACK MARKET WHEN THINGS ARE LEGAL. It's absolutely ridiculous to compare alcohol with opioids and everyone knows it. Some other drugs like hallucinogens don't have the same addiction potential and few people will get behind the wheel tripping balls. I'm specifically referring to opioids here BTW... and b/c a black market will always exist for them, the potential to die (especially the first time you use them or the first time you inject) is higher. And that's the final reason- no one shoots up alcohol (unless maybe you're in Motley Crue). Needles add a whole other level of issues. Let's stop with these specious arguments comparing alcohol to opioids, it's dumb and you all know it.

[@jjfghjpnwf5119]

@@FSantora Of course that by legalising drugs black market will not disapear, but it will get weaker for sure... If heroin was legal, everyone would just get it legally, and it would be much cheaper... Weed is a bit different thing, but heroin and other drugs would be cheap in order to prevent crime, so people dont need to steal to get a drug... Comparing alcohol to opioids is very fair comperison, alcohol can be a lot more dangerous then opioids... Anyone educated would agree. Alcohol dependacy and addiction in a lot of cases is more harmful then heroin addiction and dependacy, in fact you can die from alcohol withdrawl, while you can not die from heroin withdrawal.. Average alcohol treatment lasts for about 15 years, while average heroin treatment lasts for about 7-8 years... After Switzerland legalised heroin, crime rates went down dramatically, overdoses went down, deaths went down... And btw, when alcohol was prohibited, there was more alcohol posioning, more alcohol overdoses and deaths, more crime... The same happens with drugs. Legal weed market won't stop black market of course, but weed is a little different thing when it comes to price and actual product...Its not that big of a deal, noone cares about black weed market...and majority of people will still buy legal weed rather then buying it from a dealer... But when it comes to heroin, or cocaine or other drugs, when legal, markets would be able to control purity, so you would know how pure your drug is... So everyone would buy heroin or cocaine from a legal market, rather then from a skechy drug dealer selling odd products... You can not be sure of what your heroin dealer laced a product with, bcs its from streets, unsafe product... But you can estimate on how good your street weed is, you can estimate that its not probably laced with any deadly or potentially harmful substance...bcs its just weed... But you can not estimate those kind of things with other drugs very easy, but if it was legal, you would know what you're getting, which would immidietly prevent harmful effects. When alcohol was prohibited, a lot more people was dying from it, bcs of sloppy street production, alcohol was much more toxic then today. When you have your street weed, you know its safe in 99% cases, but when alcohol and other drugs come from street, thats more dangerous. Just like with alcohol, most people just buy it legally. That would be true with all other drugs, most people would just buy drugs legally rather then buying it from a dealer... Weed is cheaper to buy on black market, acohol isnt...(at least some alcohol products, not all)...But other drugs would be similar to alcohol, cheaper on legal market... Like i said, weed works a bit differently, its easy to grow, easy to get, not many people will make their own alcohol illegally and sell it, bcs its not that easy to make alcohol... And still, most people will buy legal weed... Just like ciggarets... Ciggs are cheaper on black market, but most people just buy it in the store...

[@krns1695]

They do not do any of this in europe. He is right about many things but drugs are seen way worse in europe then in USA

[@frogspawn_johnson37]

Based af

[@elementalbreakdown7775]

You can't just dismiss addiction. Forget about laws, anything that can turn your life into a full time chore just to not be sick is bad for both individuals and society. How many people can responsibly use highly addictive drugs in moderation? 1 on 100? A thousand? You cannot pursue this happiness without impacting others and responsibility goes out the window if someone is sick because they are w/d-ing.

[@myusernamehere9972]

I don’t feel the need to be coddled by the state, if I want to go ham on some meth and possibly die I should be able to do so, just as you can legally drink yourself to death. Not that I feel you should, but as long as your not putting anybody else at risk then it shouldn’t be illegal.

[@l21n18]

Um you’re wrong and I think your numbers are completely absurd as well. Your labelling of addictive drugs is just arbitrary as well, and not all Drugs even have withdrawal symptoms. A T1 Diabetic is In a far worse position than these addicts would be for a variety of reasons yet many of them can lead decent lives and they’ll die if they don’t get their drug

[@FSantora]

@@l21n18 what numbers? Everything you just wrote contradicts itself, lead decent lives but die if they don't get it? Arbitrary to say hallucinogens aren't addictive? I'm done talking to you, obviously you are a child , go do your homework.

[@MamaHarperr]

For those saying he's high here...what type of high is this? Heroin?

[@l21n18]

People are seeing all sorts of things, all the morons coming out of the woodwork

[@MamaHarperr]

@@l21n18 I see!

[@TwoTechnics76]

I think he's more nervous than under the influence of any drugs. It's a tough topic to talk about

[@MamaHarperr]

@@TwoTechnics76 This sounds reasonable to me

[@deadface4979]

Heroin, he says he sniffs it in his new book , has admitted to micro dosing for 5 years straight , looks like hes withdrawaling here

[@heatherscott1002]

I thought I was a functioning addict now I know I'm not a addict at all

[@wilberarthur11122]

Moralistic approach would be to provide people with the Drug Consumption rooms. It seems like Dr. Hart is talking about the American people conflating the law with Morality which is something as a culture we need to realize is not how our justice system works or where it's priorities lie.

[@yesfredfredburger8008]

For someone so well-researched and backed by scientific data, there's no need to tout his "lived experience" in the intro. That's just an optimistic way to say "anecdotal evidence"

[@johnnybennit5742]

L & L. Listen and Learn

[@Skunkhunt_42]

Anybody wana debate carl?

[@dannyboy7673]

I would

[@Ardante11]

Same here

[@Ardante11]

He’s yet to conduct a study on the impact of casual drug use on reproduction. My brother’s first wife was a casual user behind his back and his daughter was born with a “learning” disability and goes into seizures in stressful situations. So if someone wants to use drugs in this fashion, I urge them to get their tubes tied or get a vasectomy.

[@Skunkhunt_42]

@@Ardante11 that and other things like effects on learning and emotional devopment of adult brains who are chronic users, even if they are not failing to carry out day to day tasks of being an adult/parent.

[@bellabear653]

@@Ardante11 That has nothing to do with that. I know plenty of people who were full blown addicts and their children are fine and very intelligent. There would be another reason for the learning disability.

[@3ossomok588]

Money is the strongest most euphoric thing

[@BlkSheepLoneWolf]

I'm watch the Ted talks, this is rather hard to watch.

[@rubenmejias7302]

We can't forget. Sigmund Freud lived into his 80s and he was a regular coke user and he was still one of the premier Drs of his time. If not the most famous of his time. ... Great research Carl

[@LA-hr3le]

So will you condone your kids doing this? Let’s say they start at 18 when they’re legally an adult, let’s say they start stealing your stuff to support their habit, maybe your daughter starts selling herself to support it... still of?

[@rubenmejias7302]

@@LA-hr3le if it's legal they won't have too. The problem is what their getting off the street. Is adulterated with fentanyl and other things. If they got it from a pharmacy and standardized. I've seen many peaple live long lives. But this mixed crap their getting on the streets killing them

[@rubenmejias7302]

And since your from LA you should know this

[@rubenmejias7302]

@@LA-hr3le let's face it this problem ain't going away

[@chimaogeibe2921]

Basically all of Freud’s theories have been disproven

[@wpdrusky]

Last comment was three months ago... Dammit

[@P4OE]

The very first things he says about cars is hilarious . What do you think would happen if there were as many heroin users as there was drivers ? There would be so many deaths and addicted people america would be a walking zombie town like the drug streets of Philly .

[@KratomFlavoredAdidas]

Druggards in Philly are homeless people doing fentanyl in a city where drugs are illegal, the drug itself isn't causing most of the problems.

[@joshuarhoades5569]

Just by coming out of the closet to family members can ruin an otherwise good family. There's always a stigma between family members of what an individual should or should not be doing.

[@EldoradoTexas]

this GUY sounds HIGH

[@dannyboy7673]

Tweaking tf out

[@thereGoMapo]

while also making sense. Impressive.

[@TheMexlalo]

He is much older and it's hard to talk about controversial topics. Even I would get nervous and start to slur