Why I LOVE the BMW M2 Competition - and you should too! 20,000 miles / 2 years ownership review

[@maxfrederick7703]

Had an LCI for 4 years now. 27k miles, been to the alps to many tracks and I still love how it drives. It’s a nutter of a car, currently running Michelin ps4S, braided brake lines, ferodo ds2500 pads, stage 2 bm3 with upgraded charge pipes FMIC and VRSF sports cat, sounds nuts and goes nuts. Still love it.

[@CarMadDad]

Sounds amazing dude 👍

[@Elusive12]

Had any crankhub problems?

[@maxfrederick7703]

@@Elusive12 nope….. it’s not a competition. N55 engine doesn’t seem to suffer the same issue.

[@JoeCritchley]

Just sold my M2C recently to make some funds available for my first house. Just wanted to say thank you for all your insights over the past year or so man, your channel has been a godsend.

[@CarMadDad]

Joe - firstly thank you for the comment - really made my day. Second, best of luck with the first house - well worth the sale and no doubt you’ll have time for “indulgences” later down the line 💪

[@soccerholidays3338]

Picking up one of these beasts today. 4 year old with 20k miles and 1 owner. I saw one a few years ago on a weekend break where some dude parked it up just as I walked past and turns out he'd just bought it the day before. Spoke to him and had a good look around it. Had wanted one ever since.

[@CarMadDad]

Hope collection went well chap

[@DennisYT]

I am at the same point as you. Owned it for 4 years now. Did 10 drift days with it. I dont know which car can replace it, im still hooked and very satisfied with it. Thats why i will now not daily it any more and i think, keep it forever. A Cayman is better in corners but worse to drift and everything else despite being more expensive is not as thrilling to drive or too expensive for me.

[@CarMadDad]

See your conundrum chap - know it well - good luck!!!

[@Mac_F87]

Fully agree about the DCT and being daily mate. A lot of people make out like manual is the only option for an M car. There seems to be this air of grandeur, as if you almost need the skill of F1 drivers of old to drive a car with a manual box.

[@CarMadDad]

Good to hear dude - cheers again for the views and thoughts 👍

[@brucemilletto2909]

Great video - love seeing others that are also in love with the M2C - I sold a M4 (too big) Went to a Porsche 917S that became as you say a garage queen. When a M2C came available with a canceled order at my BMW dealer I jumped on it and just logged one year w. it as a daily driver. I can tell you every day I get in this car I can not wait to drive her. She is the ultimate M car in my opinion.

[@CarMadDad]

Hey Bruce 👋 Thank you for the views and comments - the ultimate M car is quite a claim but I’d be minded to agree 😂

[@daxxr2532]

Also had my m2c for two years, brilliant car. Just fitted a set of conti winter tyres, transformed the car and they give full confidence in the UK winter months

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers for the view and comment dude - I run Michelin winters and have been v impressed too 👍

[@daxxr2532]

I run Cup 2 tyres during the summer months, great in the dry, not so great when its wet lol

[@CarMadDad]

Nothing like a bit of summer fun in the rain 😂

[@lloyd.8272]

I been using cup2 throughout this winter. Absolutely love them, I’ve been drifting everywhere in wet conditions. But when it’s dry and cold there perfectly fine as long as there is a bit of heat in them. Tyre monitor on the idrive was saying they were around 15 degrees and they hook up perfectly fine.

[@adamkelsall3942]

M2C is a sweet spot of a car. Small. Fast. Engaging. Useable. Not too expensive. Good looks. What else for the money does all that!? My mum has a Porsche 718 Spyder. It’s fabulous but my M2C is more of a hoot at road speeds more of the time.it’s not all about outright speed, it’s about how the car makes you feel and that’s where the M2C is hard to beat. I just need Ohlins & SS top mounts for a more compliant ride and a better front end. Happy days

[@CarMadDad]

Agreed entirely Adam 👍 I’m sure Matt @ SS can hook you up as and when - would HIGHLY recommend 👍

[@m2kev110]

Have had my OG M2 from new for 4 1/2 years now and can’t find anything to replace it with for sensible money - bang for buck and smiles per mile they are brilliant - if you want fast then electric will out sprint anything - but who wants a car with no soul?! The M2 is a great package for our roads - fast - small and manoeuvrable - Love ‘em!😃👍

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers for the view and thoughts Kevin - I agree entirely of course 😆 👍

[@amgaida]

This is an exceptional example of a video someone you don’t know made about the car you just bought and makes you to feel you did everything right. Thanks for your open and authentic style, this is one of the best ways to motivate yourself to buy an f87 M2c. ❤

[@CarMadDad]

I appreciate that! Thank you

[@boeingdriver29]

Had mine for 18 months and like you I really don't want to sell it. Looking forward to driving the new M2.

[@CarMadDad]

Yeah I hear good things!!!

[@MrHCars]

Brilliant video mate! I’ve just crossed 25,000 miles and still loving this animal! Best colour too! Good work on the donation and here’s to 2022 mate🥳

[@CarMadDad]

Onward and upward buddy x x x x

[@cklam8722]

M2 Competition is surely a keeper for sure. Like E46 M3. It's M Dynamic mode is so addictive. The daily usable chassis, the minimal but thick interior, and even the chunky door always invite out for a fun drive on B roads. It's a brilliant car that BMW don't make often. Mine is almost 30,000 miles, has no sign of aging. Not at all.

[@CarMadDad]

Sounds like we’re on the same page dude 👍 Cheers for the view and comments

[@williamk1800]

I miss my OG M2 so much. Someday again, after I get through career-change schooling and working again...

[@CarMadDad]

Absolutely William - keep you eye on the big (important) things chappy - silly stuff like cars will come later and will be all the more satisfying when they do 👍

[@audiophilemetallian]

Traded my m340i a while ago for the m2c currently own. There’s no doubt this is so special. No other non real m car such the new m240i can coMpete to it. Maybe the new upcoming m2 in 2023, let’s see!!

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers Pedro! I'm obviously with you on opinion and cant wait to see what the new M2 will bring... No doubt that based on the current role out of the new platform it will be immense!!!

[@speeddemonRS3]

DCT all day! It's absolutely easier to live with and it's faster everywhere!

[@lloyd.8272]

A lot of comments on here about the PS4s tyres, Personally I didn’t like them on the M2. The car was on the Litchfield AST suspension kit with PSS tyres and and was a absolute blast to drive,was so much more composed and gave you lots of confidence. I then moved on to the PS4s and all that was lost, steering response as speed was vague, on fast bumpy Uk roads it never felt settled and the rear end kinda felt like the tyres were under inflated accelerating out of corners. I tried many different pressures and changing dampers settings and couldn’t get that confidence back. Then last summer I bought a new set of 763m wheels that came with cup2 fitted and that was a total transformation back to how a M2 should feel. I would like to try some BMW star marked PS4s as they used a Cup2 construction but unfortunately not available in stock M2 sizes.

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers for your thoughts chappy

[@dconcars]

Bought my LBB comp with 25k on it and it has near 35 in 8 months I've loved every second of ownership (apart from the m tax on parts)

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers for the view and comment DC. I’m new to the “M Tax” but it’s been mentioned a few times… first world problems ay 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@carl9184]

We have similar likes in BMW's, only I went through the 2 series. Thought about selling my M2C several times but theres nothing out there that competes for the price and more importantly it still makes me look back at it. 😄

[@CarMadDad]

Sounds like your a man with outstanding taste Carl 😛 cheers for the view and comment buddy 👍

[@kevinmcg6747]

I feel your joy as a fellow M2C owner, they really do get under the skin! I think the M2 OG was blue for launch colour but the M2C was HS? Totally agree on the MPSS in the cold and wet, spin city even in third! Neighbour with an M2 OG said Michelin 4S with a slight increase in size transformed his so may investigate. Biggest shock for me was the ‘M-Tax’, jeez the parts really are massively more than say they m-lites (had a M135i) - the obvious being the exhaust rear section with circa £500 for the m-lite and over £2k for the M2C. Really liked the vlog on suspension secrets and considering them for a refresh of the settings as they seem to transform cars with their knowledge. As for what next (my car is also over 2 yrs old) like you I’m struggling but I do have an itch for a 6 pot manual Cayman - work commute (when ever I get back to office working) is only 5 miles away so the practicality is less of an issue. Finally, thank you for sharing the vlogs, they’ve been particularly useful given the challenges we’re all facing - good luck in the new year and hopefully upwards and onwards for you and the family. Cheers, Kevin.

[@CarMadDad]

Love this Kevin. Fair point about the Hok silver as the Comp launch colour - love that too! M Tax for me is a “first world problem” but in hindsight is worth a mention. Best wishes dude - thank you for the view and comment x x x

[@davissonnguyen]

F8x platform is sooooooo under rated and I hope they stay this way to keep the price low so I can get back in. I sold my f80 m3cpz for a g80 and its souless compared to the f8x platform + s55 engine. great candid review !

[@CarMadDad]

Thank you for the view and thoughts chappy - appreciated 👍

[@SamAustin]

Great overview of the M2 Comp. For around £40,000 it's a bit of a steal at that price 👍

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers Sam - really appreciate it dude 🙌🏻

[@klockwerked1673]

Nice review! Really love that all funds go to charity 🙌🏻 fair play sir!

[@CarMadDad]

Oh cheers dude 👏🏼

[@mattlau]

The intro makes me want this car so bad

[@CarMadDad]

Think it’s done it’s job then chappy 😂 👍 Cheers for the view and comment

[@MattWilliams482]

I owned an m140i for 4 years, whilst it was superb fun it is at its heart a hot hatch. I found the handling a bit squishy and unpredictable. Now have a 2019 m2 comp in hockenheim silver. It’s a totally different animal. Feels a lot more engaging and special. Yeah it’s a bit faster than the 140i but the handling is on another level.

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers for the view and thoughts dude 👍

[@FreeRoamingHumans]

I have a M2C as well and I have to disagree that the stock suspension is geared towards understeer. On-throttle the car always looses traction at the rears first, even if you just touch the throttle ever so slightly. Under braking the car can of course understeer if you're asking too much of the front axle. But I'm just an amateur track driver so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I'm still a long off of figuring out the subtleties of this car. I do agree that it's a frightening car sometimes yet absolutely incredible to drive.

[@CarMadDad]

I hear your point buddy and always value opinions… HOWEVER if you mess with the geometry you will quickly see how the front axle is geared away from maximum potential and towards what manufacturers deem safer (under steer) If your ever at a track day I’m at your more than welcome to have a try 👍

[@FreeRoamingHumans]

@@CarMadDad If that's what BMW deems a safe setup, maybe I am a heavy footed moron😄. Which, I must admit, is a possibility. My local track is Hockenheim, so I doubt we'll bump into each other by chance any time soon. But Oulton Park is on my bucket list, so maybe eventually

[@CarMadDad]

If I ever make the trip dude I’ll let you know! 😂

[@stevenfoleyuk9404]

Best M car ever , I love mine , i need to sell it but i wont . I rather starve to death than sell the Best M car that BMW has ever made

[@CarMadDad]

I debated selling a kidney chap 😂

[@stevenfoleyuk9404]

@@CarMadDad none left sold them years ago 😂😂

[@smiler921]

Lovely car, have seen you pass a couple of times in Stratford, probably on way to C&M. Cracking spec 👌🏻

[@CarMadDad]

Yeah a few trains to be that neck of the woods - C&M defo the best one though 😂

[@tomm6525]

Fully agree with everything there. I’ve been fortunate enough to own and drive quite a few cars for my age and have to say the m2 has something that most don’t. I’ve settled with an LCI m2, incredibly capable on fast B roads and a sense of occasion when driving slow. Sure gets expensive when the modifications begin though

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers for the view and comments Tom. Huge fan of the OG - part of me misses my LCI 😔

[@DPG3101]

Great video again! I’ve just passed 1,600 miles in mines, mostly motorway so far unfortunately but I totally agree every time I’m in it, it just feels special and I haven’t even started to modify it in any way yet A set of coilovers is definitely on the list though, thinking Ohlins too, Nitrons I think will be too track focused for what I’ll be using the car for

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers for the view and comment chap - greetings from “south”! Coilovers are amazing dude - in love with my Ohlins and can’t wait to get them back in next week - be sure to read up plenty as never tried the Nitrons but hear good things. Suspension Secrets are the nuts though chap and can hook you up either way if needed!

[@DPG3101]

@@CarMadDad yeh I’ll definitely do some more reading up before I make that final call, I suspect that regardless of what I choose, for the level I’m at and what I’ll be using it for, it’ll be a significant improvement and the difference between them I probably wouldn’t notice, definitely keen to get the camber plates too to get a bit more stability on that front end Have you ever considered a power increase? Like a trip to Litchfield for example? I certainly don’t feel like I ‘need’ it now but something I’ll probably look at after another year or so of ownership

[@CarMadDad]

For me buddy power has never been an issue. I’d head for brake pads and lines next and feel as though the suspension and camber plates have added so much more than power ever could (only my opinion) I know Litchfield have a huge amount of info and options chappy so maybe your safe in their expert opinion than mine 😂

[@DPG3101]

@@CarMadDad cheers, just good to get the opinion of people with more experience in the car, I don’t feel any urge to do so right now, in fact if anything it’s too fast for me at the moment but I guess it’s good to have the option in future if I ‘get used to it’

[@CarMadDad]

Absolutely chap. Other option is to look at the software… I’ve recently tinkered with throttle and chassis via @DDCoding - used some software from the M4 GTS which has made the car more “aggressive” in the right modes… might also be worth a look depending on your preference. All is each to their own buddy 👍

[@markelliot6710]

Nice review. I've just sold an LCI after 4 years of ownership, similar mods to your comp. The Nitron coilovers I had unlocked the car's character for me. Did loads of track days this year and I realised I was risking a lot of money as I pushed my limits in it more and more. So it's gone and I'll be getting something smaller/cheaper like a Mégane or i20/30N that I can hack around in with less concern. Your video makes me question that decision 😂

[@CarMadDad]

Hi Mark Firstly thank you for the view and comment. Love the thought of tricking out an OG - Bet it was mega. I think I agree with your thoughts - I’m a few track days down now but giving serious consideration to getting a track weapon to abuse properly as I find myself “easing off” every now and then in the comp for self preservation reasons 😂

[@markelliot6710]

@@CarMadDad the thing that did it for me was having a go in a mates Clio track car which is dog slow and is a bit shit but was so much fun and a totally different challenge to the M2. It highlighted the weight of an M2 to me, the Clio just felt more nimble and playful. The M2 was amazing but is a bit of a brute in comparison. Depends what you want from a car tho of course, the M2 was such a nice thing to cruise around in away from the track.

[@CarMadDad]

Yeah I hear you chap - I was thinking along the line of Clio / mini or even caterham 🤔 Completely understand the view point

[@paulstack8366]

Same car history except went for grey M2 Competition with similar mods after M2 blue. Not tempted by new M2.

[@CarMadDad]

Sounds like you have impeccable taste my friend

[@AutoVidzzz]

First Video I've watched. Fellow car mad dad. Love M cars too. Liked and subscribed. ❤️

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers Duncan - appreciated dude 👏🏼

[@AutoVidzzz]

@@CarMadDad I went to the showroom to buy an M2 C... Really loved it... Then saw an M3 C... Drove that. Left in the M3 C. Both brilliant but the M3 was just more rawkus. Which ultimately was the wrong decision for a daily.

[@CarMadDad]

Don’t think there are any losers in that scenario chappy 👍 😂

[@peterwilson3733]

Amazing review mint

[@CarMadDad]

Thank yooouuuuuuu 🥳

[@stevecoates2270]

I've also just clicked over 20k miles in 2 years in my M2C. Used for both road trips and daily duties. Such a fun car to drive. What tyres are you on now? MPS4S > MPSS in my experience. However, will be changing next year to an M140 for daily and a Cayman GTS for road trips/track use.

[@CarMadDad]

Sounds like a good combo dude (M140 / GTS) currently running PS4Ss heading into winters asap!

[@gsr2nr]

Damn 20k miles? I’m just about to hit 4k

[@CarMadDad]

Enjoy the next 16k chappy 👍

[@PJF41]

Is this still a worthwhile upgrade over the OG M2 ?

[@CarMadDad]

Depends what you are after chap and what price gap I guess

[@zildog]

Cool video dude. I just picked up a 1 owner, full BMW service records, OG M2 in Alpine White with M-performance options on the interior and mirrors... and I think it is the cheapest M2 in the world for 13,000GBP. What's wrong with it? Absolutely nothing! That's just Japan for you... ;)

[@CarMadDad]

Think your the 2nd of these comments I’ve had in the last month - cheap over there! Enjoy 😉

[@Billywoo12]

I’ve added some TS860 winter tyres - incredible wet weather and winter grip, but still playful. Great video!

[@CarMadDad]

Sounds like a worthwhile experience investment David. Cheers buddy 👍

[@bnchthm4895]

Be great to see a full spec list of what you have added. I got this over the 140i and absolutely love it. Thinking of getting a remus and new tyres but not sure which to go for as there are so many options. Another thing that is minor but a bug bear is the apple carplay. Constantly, and I mean constantly disconnects to the points it is unusable - how have you found it?

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers for the view and comment dude. The apple car play is a new one on me (sound immensely frustrating) so defo get that looked over!!! Mod list is a long one 😂 Remus Ohlins Camber plates Coding (car play / led running rear lights / active sound off etc) Ghost immobiliser Alcantara steering wheel To name a few 😂 Mid list is a long BBC

[@chrisginoc]

I'm in the market for a 2021 M2 Competition. Would you rather wait for the 2023 G87? What are your thoughts?

[@CarMadDad]

I wouldn’t touch the new gen with a barge poll personally - depending on what use you have planned and how long you’re happy to wait I’d jump into a comp in 2023 when prices might have dropped. G87 IS NOT A LOOKER!!!

[@chrisginoc]

@@CarMadDad You mean prices will come down next year on the used market? I kind of agree with you. I've been in finance for 15 years and with the amount of economic tightening happening right now should have a big effect on used cars maybe even the M2 Comp models. I agree the G87 is not a looker. I'm seeing the 2021 M2 Competion with descent mileage around $58-62k right now

[@CarMadDad]

Yeah - I’m no expert but logic dictates used prices should fall - grab a bargain!

[@chrisginoc]

@@CarMadDad What are your thoughts on the eternal debate of DCT vs Manual? I grew up with manual but havent had one in 10 years. This M2 would be my weekend, fun, date night with the wife, winding roads and road trip vehicle, not my daily driver in the city.

[@CarMadDad]

Go manual then fella I drove auto as a daily A weekender would be manual all day - enjoy the engagement Although the DCT was 👌 👌 No losers there!

[@Christian6AT]

Great video!

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers dude x

[@onlinesearch4134]

Informative video. Nicely done. Mine has 14k miles on it. It’s a great touring car and daily driver. I think that’s where it truly shines. It’s become a special find in the times of COVID. Agree if you can only afford one car to drive this fits the bill. For the price point not many comparable cars out there. Question: why did you remove the Ohlins R&T?

[@CarMadDad]

Cheers for the views and thoughts Sandeep. Ohlins came off for servicing (they need it every 15k) Back on now - oh how I missed them!!!

[@onlinesearch4134]

@@CarMadDad that’s a very short service life. I’ve had those in other cars and lasted longer. Bit surprised.

[@BronchoGillespie]

OG OG OG OG OG OG OG

[@CarMadDad]

LOVE and OG 👍

[@JCGamingProductions]

hi mate, great video as always! Was just wondering if you're running the remus resonator delete from Motech? I've got the same system as you and I feel like this might be a good addition to increase the noise a little bit more. If you didn't go with it, what were your thoughts around it?

[@CarMadDad]

Hey chap 👋 Cheers dude 👍 I’ve not had the red delete as I’m more than happy with the Remus back box - I’ve heard them with the res delete and it certainly adds a few decibels! If your not worried about track day limits and like a loud pipe - you won’t go far wrong!

[@JCGamingProductions]

@@CarMadDad thanks mate, love the Remus! Would you say it's mainly volume or does it alter the tone? Fingers crossed it doesn't trip up on trackdays but I feel like for the majority of UK tracks it should still be ok - never triggered any drive by sensors with our system so far

[@CarMadDad]

Think from memory it’s a good mix of both chap! Sorry but it’s been a while since I’ve heard them side by side…

[@ace673]

Any crank hub problems ? have you done anything to fix the crank hub ?

[@CarMadDad]

Never had an issue - would have gone for a fix if I had kept the car I guess as a preventative measure

[@tp_ngcobo]

Did you use Bimmercode for the full screen Apple Play??

[@CarMadDad]

No chap - DD Coding 👌

[@tp_ngcobo]

@@CarMadDad Thanks mate🙏🏽

[@CarMadDad]

Anytime dude

[@RoadRaceRally]

What a video!

[@CarMadDad]

I’ll take that buddy - cheers 🍻

[@darrancox]

I find it crazy that people say they can’t live with a manual day to day. Especially if you’re supposed to be into cars. What is the world coming to.

[@CarMadDad]

And yet… here we are

[@del21trotter]

What you think ,I got eyes on one used m2 comp with 25k miles (service history on time) Should I go for it and should I have any concern?

[@CarMadDad]

Very hard to say Alen however if it’s a full BMW service history and comes with a warranty I see no reason to panic 👍

[@del21trotter]

@@CarMadDad no warranty 🤷

[@CarMadDad]

Can you maybe look at purchasing the car with one? I wouldn’t worry either way but if you can that would of course be ideal Mines been solid - never missed a beat

[@del21trotter]

@@CarMadDad it would be nice but Honestly I don‘t think 1 year warranty left is worth it 8k€ more

[@del21trotter]

@@CarMadDad and I‘m glad to hear that u have 0 issue with yours 😉

[@zholden88]

First! Great review. Do you feel like the LCI or the comp is more engaging to drive? Also which car do you feel gets more attention?

[@CarMadDad]

Wow - there’s an open ended question chap. The LCI will certainly have you “on your toes more” and for lower road mileage and track work will be more than suitable with a few subtle mods… But I would back myself on the road to be faster on the road or track in the comp - both are immensely engaging to drive so I do t think there is a better vehicle in this respect 🤔 🤔 🤔

[@akash502]

Is your ghost immobiliser coded to blink your eml light? If so have had any problems with intermittent eml light or eml light permanently on? I had mine fitted by car theft Soulutions in my m2 comp after a while had to have it changed to flash the indicators instead of the eml because of the persistent issue.

[@CarMadDad]

Hey dude Mine is coded to flash indicator lights so no issues in the last 2 years…. Sounds like I got there after such issues???

[@akash502]

@@CarMadDad I think you must have. Mine is all working fine now I switched to the indicators

[@bahletyson3272]

Is this stock? If not please tell us which exhaust is this

[@CarMadDad]

Remus - speak to Mike at Motech Performance

[@gabrielpaulasilva]

Have you changed your steering wheel as well?

[@CarMadDad]

Yes - Royal Steering Wheels 👍 👌

[@jimmay83]

Why are you back on the original shocks ?

[@CarMadDad]

The Ohlins needed a service chap. Every 16km so they have been away getting some TLC. Back next week and can’t wait 😜

[@jimmay83]

@@CarMadDad ah ok it s just because you speak so highly of them that you really made me think of doing that mod, but back eibach springs lol. So for servicing you have to dismantle and send them every 15k?

[@CarMadDad]

@@jimmay83 yes chap correct

[@paulchapman1332]

Did you say you’d taken off the Ohlins and running the stock dampers again?! Why?!

[@CarMadDad]

Ohlins need servicing after 16k miles dude 😆 👍 Can’t wait to get them back on though!

[@paulchapman1332]

@@CarMadDad wow, didn’t realise it was that frequent. Guessed 60k min!

[@CarMadDad]

No chap - quite often which to me makes them more of a track solution. It sure how often the nitrons need servicing as an alternative?!?!?

[@iksander70]

re. Headroom/ sunroof. How tall are you?

[@CarMadDad]

I’m 5ft 9 chap - space for me and a crash helmet 👌

[@iksander70]

@@CarMadDad thank you, 6' 3" here. Think I probably ought to look at one without 👍

[@CarMadDad]

Might be a good shout 😂