CARNIVORE VERSUS VEGAN BLOOD WORK! WHICH IS BETTER? - Doctor Reacts

The diet wars rage on! ⚔ Whose blood work is “better” - someone who follows a vegan diet or someone who eats carnivore? Is it dangerous if your cholesterol shoots up on a keto or carnivore diet? ☠ Find out from Dr. Westman!
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[@happyeveryday13]

My mom has always had high LDL and HDL!! She is 88, walks 1 to 2 miles daily, has a personal trainer, drives, reads book after book, does word puzzles, puts together very difficult quilts, runs errands for all of her ‘elderly’ friends, etc. The doctor told her she will never die of a heart related issue!!

[@catcan221]

My grandparents ate lard and butter, meat, etc. lived to 100, and mid 90s. My grandmother was even told she had high cholesterol (this was before they tested for LDL.) She lived to her mid 90s.

[@KAT-dg6el]

What is considered high LDL? A little over 100? Or a lot over 200? I can guess I’m asking what her LDL number was.

[@Beef_it_to_be_fit]

Sounds like she needs a job.

[@rockymntdan1]

It's about inflammation in your body and arteries. If you don't have that your body doesn't plug the leaks and cause clogging in your arteries. Has nothing to do with amount of LDL, HDL, LDS, XYZ, PDQ......

[@VenturiLife]

Should also do a calcium heart score, takes like 10 minutes to do the whole scan deal.

[@bobo-si3kw]

All I can say is many years ago, I was told your cholesterol is high 205 to 210, they wanted me to take statins over 27 years ago. I never did, still no issues. I was jealous of my friends because they were 150 to 170, they are both on medication today, one even needed stents. My other friend had a heart attack at 45, his cholesterol was low. Their triglycerides were high, my Trigs were only 49.

[@hugoanderkivi]

Good, not so jealous now I hope.

[@ActivateMission2ThisTimeline]

My friends dad took stating and got alsheimers.

[@rockymntdan1]

@@ActivateMission2ThisTimeline Yep. Brain is made of cholesterol.

[@dawnelder9046]

Look up the Korean Cholesterol Mortality Study published in 2019. People between 200 and 240 live the longest. Over barely any increase in death. Under and the death rate for all causes increases hard and fast.

[@ianstuart5660]

​@ActivateMission2ThisTimeline That disaster is more common the most folks would imagine!

[@MrRabiddogg]

the minute someone brings up a government controlled agency as science I immediately assume they are wrong.

[@birgittabirgersdatter8082]

There certainly haven’t been many instances where a government controlled agency has been anywhere near right in the past few years.

[@annemorrison9922]

Me two

[@dirkdil8268]

The problem is that these agencies are not government controlled. They are donor and industry controlled. Looking at the US I must say the government doesn't control much of anything. This is where cutting taxes and austerity gets you. That's what the people voted for. You did that.

[@JoaninFlorida]

Listen very carefully to all the government tells you to do, then do the exact opposite. Words to live by. The corruption is rampant.

[@MrRabiddogg]

@@dirkdil8268 they are a government controlled agency. The government controls everything, we are completely communist at this point.

[@feralon9570]

I know one thing for a fact, I had a stroke on the western diet. I switched to keto, the moment I said keto to my doctor gasped and said, No. Warned me to stop, my dietician told me to tell my doctor that I'm on a "High protein, low carb". I went in for labs and my doctor said.. Whatever your doing is working. I'm down 45 lbs in 4 months and my a1c is great. I reversed type 2 dibetes. I'm now able to hit the gym for the first time in 10 years. I'm doing what I need to. I'm so tired of all the bad advice. I eat one meal a day and am reversing some of the severe blood pressure issues that led to the stroke. I'm healthy, I feel good. I've changed my life with the help of youtube doctors.

[@counterbalancelife4305]

Yeah, but sometime in the next 60-80 years you'll probably pass. Then the vegans will say, "See, we told you that diet would kill you."

[@lucyclink9163]

That's amazing. Well done.

[@pete801]

Fasting is the key here. Let's not give all of these positive results to the keto diet. OMAD and any kind of sustained fasting period will have an incredible impact on your blood work and overall health. I do a 20:4 HR fast/ eating window and it's been phenomenal

[@jeredphillips3424]

My blood pressure is almost not a problem anymore. On the lowest dosage possible now

[@LaurieMcCollum-c5e]

Same here! It’s a completely different world altogether! Carnivore changed my life. I feel like a teenager at 55! 😎

[@TheCarnivoreCure]

I just hit 13 months carnivore and it has changed my life! i started at north of 715lbs i was stuck in the house for over 2 years and i was on home oxygen 24/7. i had congestive heart failure, reactive airway disease, depression, anxiety, lymphedema, and many other issues. ive lost 262lbs so far, i have my mobility back, im off oxygen, and off all meds, my depression and anxiety is completely gone. everything has healed and is either 95% to 100% healed! A literal answer to prayer ! i love hearing people changing their lives with carnivore too. Keep up the great work!

[@haleysessions1957]

That's incredible!! Truly inspiring!!

[@TheCarnivoreCure]

@haleysessions1957 Thank you, I appreciate it 🙏

[@chillywilly3202]

WOW!!! 🎉 I am superbly happy for you!!! Thank you and keep spreading the word!!! Let's GO!!!! 🤩🌞🙏🏻

[@HitenLighthearth]

Broo! Amazing! Keep up the great work man! That is insane. So few people will ever be able to say they went from such a far place only to recover! Truly an inspiration!

[@TheCarnivoreCure]

@@HitenLighthearth this hope we can change that! I really do. Carnivore really can give you the healing power to do it. Thank you

[@iako...]

It's pretty simple actually, Id rather trust surgeon who operates human heart than sarcastic influencer.

[@jeredphillips3424]

That and he just looks sickly

[@mattizzle81]

@@jeredphillips3424Vegans are insufferable. Smug but definitely not looking like the perfect picture of health.

[@byamboy]

the problem is that medicine and nutrution are unfortunately separate disciplines. Doctors don't really know a lot about nutrution and thus your reasoning is not actually the best here. I'm not saying Mic is right, but your reasoning certainly isn't... (Also, one thing I want to see: a centenarian that is carnivoure... ) Colesterol is just ONE problematic aspect of eating meat. There are several others.

[@kelsycunningham8452]

Half of those that suffer heart attacks have low normal/normal cholesterol.

[@byamboy]

@@kelsycunningham8452 that means that 50% of people suffering heart attacks would have colesterol problems either was. 50% might habe a problem with colesterol and we don't know that. I find 50% chance high enough to worry about it, since colesterol is just only one of the problems associated with meat.

[@JoaninFlorida]

This vegan will never admit the diet he is so proud of isn't the best. It is interesting that he can completely deny Bella's actual life experience as a former vegan herself and shove aside how much better she looks and feels as a carnivore. He's hanging onto one pathetically researched lipid test to justify his "holier than thou" virtue food game. Just plain sad.

[@AnnabellaRedwood]

He looks like he'd jump for joy if a carnivore had a heart attack. Really he's so starved of nutrients he has no idea what he's saying.

[@supersaiyanbino]

He's the worst...He's full of snarky false info

[@breg9476]

the giggle really annoys me. it seems like his brain is not working well. jussayin@@supersaiyanbino

[@mitchmana201]

😂 truth

[@supersaiyanbino]

@@breg9476 That's what bothers me the most...he give these smart assed comments like he's dropping knowledge but he's wrong, and he either secretly knows it or is just a copy and paste vegan influencer like the rest of em

[@juliesaadwellness]

Problems I had during my 13 years of veganism followed by 16 years as a flexitarian: -dark circles -vitamin B12 & vitamin D deficiencies -horrible PMS -poor sleep, never feeling refreshed ever -constantly bloated to where I just thought that was how I was supposed to look -thinning hair -needed glasses after a few years -always hungry -joint pain -acne and rosacea -struggles with weight -severe ADHD Now I’m ketovore and all of that has cleared up except for the glasses part, although last time I went to the eye doc they lowered my prescription strength!

[@carmen_495]

Thats amazing!!! Congratulations

[@douglaslegvold9215]

Ignaz Semmelweis a doctor/obstetrician was actually committed to an asylum in the mid 1800’s for having the audacity to recommend handwashing for the doctors to reduce childbed fever. So yes, Dr Westman I do believe it takes a lifetime for medical ideas and practice to change and admit it was wrong😢

[@jaywhoisit4863]

If I met Mic randomly on the street I would immediately assume he was sick. He looks hollow, kinda greasy and pale.

[@jg5755]

I'd be crossing the road to avoid him. He looks like an unstable drug addict.

[@mctrustsnoone3781]

And his voice is squeaky; he sounds like a neurotic teenager.

[@jorgerodriguez-bq6cx]

And is going bald

[@johnmanco845]

Baldness is hereditary​@@jorgerodriguez-bq6cx

[@cates_keto]

Excellent video Dr. Westman! I am on keto and I am so healthy now. My 16 year old “carb zombie” son went on keto and his life mentally and physically has been transformed!!! You are right! ❤❤❤🎉

[@zazaiwon87]

Same here. I switched to a ketovore diet about 2 years ago and not only did my blood work improved drastically it is my mental health that changed me completely ❤

[@shirleyholbert2871]

How did you get your teen to switch??? I’m new to carnivore/keto and all my kids are like, “We’re athletes. We have to have carbs.”

[@DavidDrew-n6z]

I,wish I could convince my son . His diet is a typical American trash diet.

[@cates_keto]

@@zazaiwon87 I started the diet myself. I never said anything to him but after seeing my results and me rabbiting on about it transforming my life physically and mentally, one day two months after I started he said, “mam I’m going to try what your doing” and I thought oh this is going to last a day… but he was so strict!!! I couldn’t believe it. He didn’t do any of the walking but he stuck rigidly to two meals a day and intermittent fasting (lots of eggs, lettuce, cheese and meat) and today 17th February 2024 he weighted himself and he has lost a total of 43lbs since last 8th august and has maintained his weight without feeling hungry… and now that he has gotten rid of the insulin resistance he eats Choclate and carbs like biscuits at the weekends if he want, so he’s kind of doing 5 days keto, 2 days off… I do the same

[@cates_keto]

@@DavidDrew-n6z I started the diet myself. I never said anything to him but after seeing my results and me rabbiting on about it transforming my life physically and mentally, one day two months after I started he said, “mam I’m going to try what your doing” and I thought oh this is going to last a day… but he was so strict!!! I couldn’t believe it. He didn’t do any of the walking but he stuck rigidly to two meals a day and intermittent fasting (lots of eggs, lettuce, cheese and meat) and today 17th February 2024 he weighted himself and he has lost a total of 43lbs since last 8th august and has maintained his weight without feeling hungry… and now that he has gotten rid of the insulin resistance he eats Choclate and carbs like biscuits at the weekends if he want, so he’s kind of doing 5 days keto, 2 days off… I do the same

[@d3-ll754]

Y'know it's oddly fitting vegans talk about carnivores the same way plants defend themselves from danger. Namely by being as toxic as physically possible.

[@susangrande8142]

LOL! ☠️🥦 🌱

[@rebeccajordan3732]

Yup I just had my last convo with a dear friend who couldn’t wait to tell me that a lot of people are addicted to meat. She recently had an aortic stroke and thought that was her ego leaving her body.. as she went on about her guru. She wouldn’t even allow me to respond when I stated that carbs are addictive. Complete denial I weigh 113 lbs and she’s obese… that was not divinity that happened to her. Infuriating. Some people preach but can’t be taught!

[@susangrande8142]

@@rebeccajordan3732 What is an aortic stroke?? Do you mean a stroke from an aortic dissection (aneurism)? If so, I think it wasn’t her “ego” leaving her body, LOL; it was her brain not getting oxygenated blood. Very bad! 😱 Don’t let your friend (ex-friend?) tweak your mood. She’s obviously brain damaged and can’t help herself. 🙏 You know what you know. 👍 Yes; people can’t be taught unless they’re willing to be. Just keep living your best life.🙏

[@julienfroidevaux1143]

​@@rebeccajordan3732She must be a anomaly , vegans are the only group to be in the healthy normal BMI range .

[@wdemon85]

Don’t act like people who eat meat aren’t toxic towards vegans either because they definitely are

[@21stCenturySuperhuman]

Thank you for taking on this convo from a practical level. I"m a 50 year vegan-vegetarian - did not eat a lot of grains and have been more healthy than most - HOWEVER my last year on pescatarian keto with plenty of healthy fat - has been a huge improvement - I've craved more protein and fat over the years - and it's so great to be responding to what my body has asked for and seeing great results!!!

[@ignacioa1638]

Thank you for an excellent analysis and how to use science and not doctrine. Vegan ideologists hold to LDL cholesterol in a desperate way to promote their religion. I'm 64, I have been low carb for over 25 years, carnivorous for over 5 years. I am not taking any medication, super active, all my health metrics are within the "perfect" range, except for LDL cholesterol being 200 mg/dL, my HDL is 70 and my triglycerides < 50. My coronary calcification score is zero. Traditional high carbohydrate diets are responsible for many of the chronic diseases, along vegetable / seed oils.

[@ianstuart5660]

No doubt about it!

[@gobblestheturkey1413]

CAC only detects late stage plaque. You can have 100% blocked arteries with a 0 CAC score. Having a CAC score just means that the plaque you do have has calcium in it. Has very little to do with atherosclerosis

[@ignacioa1638]

@@gobblestheturkey1413 You are right that "soft" uncalcified plaque is possiible. However, given that other metrics, such BMI, waist circumference, visceral fat, blood pressure etc. are very good it's encouraging to see a CAC of zero, which at my age is a very rare occurrence. So I will accept my high LDL as a metabolic marker of a ketogenic diet and not worry to much. I'm on zero medications and statins won't be my first choice anyways

[@victrith1]

​@@ignacioa1638hey . You mention seed oils are bad . What about olive oil on keto ?

[@hauntyoo]

I don't give a crap about ldl, all I car e about is, that you can be healthy and thrive on a vegan diet. I care about the ethical things. Like the suffering of animals.

[@theskyehiker]

Many decades ago I found myself in the countryside and staying with folks who were vegan, though they didn’t call themselves that beck then. At the end of those three days I finally got to a grocery store and bought myself a huge block of cheddar cheese and snarfed most of it down. Three days was all it took for me to know I wouldn’t survive on such a diet.

[@HillbillyYEEHAA]

I saw a study on people over 100 and nearly all of them had high cholesterol. They all are ONE HUNDRED. Didn't do them any harm. It's like being slightly overweight when you are old, it's protective.

[@tomlauris]

There's a 2019 Korean study with 12.8 million people (!) looking at cholesterol and mortality. The short version is people with higher cholesterol (210-249 mg) live longer, but not all age groups seem to benefit from it. "Total cholesterol and all-cause mortality by sex and age: a prospective cohort study among 12.8 million adults"

[@alexanderzubar9593]

The real question is what was their cholesterol levels when they were younger. High cholesterol at older ages is pretty common with healthy people.

[@maureenmccracken2842]

Dr. Westman is the ASMR king of the keto/carnivore community

[@action1976]

Mic the vegetable and his idiotic ramblings. Judging by the state of him, he is the best advert for not going vegan😂😂

[@julienfroidevaux1143]

He looks fine . Whats wrong with his looks ? If you saw him gallivanting about town would you point and say LOOK vegan. Are you action the meat head by any chance ?

[@ronaldlenz5745]

As I'm sitting here watching this, I am breaking fast at 11 a.m., with liver sausage and cheddar cheese. Trigs 23, HDL-C 109, LDL-C 97 two weeks ago. Looking forward to a beefsteak and 10 grams of vegetable carbs at 5 p.m. P.S. I walked 4 miles earlier today. No joint pain and BTW, no statin. Life is good for this 76 YO.

[@ValerieGriner]

Good for you! You're an inspiration to this 66 y/o!

[@Advanced_Arch_Way]

Bravo sir! Keep living that healthy lifestyle :-)

[@velociraptor68]

Mike is just annoying to listen to, with his arrogance and hubris.

[@AnneMB955]

Agree, looking at him is cringeworthy.

[@samdevallance1527]

I agree I can’t listen to him.

[@teresawhite791]

Look at Mic and butter girl.. she looks so bright and healthy and he looks pale and dull. I think that speaks for it self

[@easysuavevibe]

I was going to comment on his sickly appearance

[@scrapper2675]

He looks so ill, all pasty and puny.🤢

[@wormhole5679]

I’ve been seeing this with every single carnivore testimonial vid

[@shroud1390]

She is wearing makeup.

[@sakmadik69420]

​@@shroud1390 yeah when its the vegan skin its just the lighting,when its carnivore skin its the makeup😂

[@motherof1doll.]

He always sounds like he knows that he knows everything because “obviously.” That’s a characteristic in doctors I’ve noticed who were wrong and never came back to tell me they learned that they were wrong. This happened in the hospitalization of my kiddo as she was nearing very scary danger and thankfully there was one doctor who spent most of his time asking me & my kiddo questions, said “I’m not sure, I will look into this and see you very soon.” He took a day or two to go over data, and came back with his findings and asked if I was okay with the risks vs outcome. He gave us his direct cell number and he saw the single parent fear in my eyes, I know that. I will never forget that one doctor during a ten day hospital stay with my nine year old. I was shocked during that experience when I learned this: One only doctor in ten days was listening. The rest were talking.

[@Thaddeus-ml8if]

Luckily he’s an influencer and not a doctor and he seems mentally ill.

[@JasonSmith-qk4fp]

It's so nice to hear someone express their views and share their knowledge without attacking others. And to have so much experience and share it online.Thanks Doc!

[@RavenMacGowan]

Mic the Vegan is a clown. I love these fear-mongering anti-cholesterol videos since study after study is proving that even extremely high LDL in conjunction with a low-carb diet is healthy and these people are living longer than average. Dr Berry just did a video with Dr Diamond about this.

[@lonewolf7650]

He desperately needs some cholesterol in his diet. Looks like the life is draining from him...

[@billdublewhopper3064]

That is false. Name a single high powered study that shows that. There are none

[@Randoverse]

​@@lonewolf7650 Your body makes all you need without intake. :)

[@VeganismIsDeath-cz9mn]

@user-vl8nw7jh9q Wrong.

[@Cenot4ph]

Cholesterol is irrelevant in the whole CVD discussion, its only plant eaters that still believe this nonsense.

[@pug7053]

Thanks for supporting the low carb space. We need it, The plant lovers are hysterically dogmatic and emotional, attached and overly biased.

[@Imag1na710n]

All I know is, I've lost 10 lbs since I started carnivore, and my brain feels like it's turned on. It's only been just over a month since I started. Glad I found this.

[@Imag1na710n]

oh, and my BP has dropped significantly.

[@mpoharper]

My dad had low cholesterol and yet had atherosclerosis. He had stents placed as well. He ate the American Standard diet. His triglycerides were not the best. He clearly had a lot of inflammation that was caused by diet.

[@matthewwilliams3827]

SAD Diet is mad eto keep people sick and relying on meds.

[@_Hal9000]

Sounds like the seed oils did a number on him. Or what is american diet? Fried stuff in seed oil?

[@counterbalancelife4305]

Please, remember the proper acronym for the Standard American Diet, SAD.

[@TaraB1134]

Excellent video. I love your calm delivery. ❤. I’ve been very low carb for 44 years and my bloodwork looks like Beef & Butter gal’s. I’m so tired of fighting the medical establishment and am grateful that finally…FINALLY…people are beginning to see things with a new lens. Thanks again.

[@rebeccaa2433]

A few years ago during lockdown, my diet got poor. I was not eating much meat because I was depressed and got lazy. My doctor said my blood work (iron and b12) looked was as low as a vegan, since then, I’ve increased my red meat intake significantly and eat much fewer carbs, sugar, and vegetables. I eat dairy, meat, and fruit mostly. My blood work last month was great! I feel so much better too.

[@braulioarencibia7407]

Thank Dr Westman, your videos always help to make things easier to understand and helps to avoid the misconceptions around many aspects regarding diet. I am following a carnivore high fat diet for almost a year and feeling very well! God bless you.

[@BattlegroundFaith]

7 years keto-carnivore. Last checked, my cholesterol was over 600. My doctor (who is a vegan) said she’d never seen a number that high. But all my ratios were good. I talked to her about the “Lean mass hyper responder” studies going on and she’d never heard about it. But then it came out in the news, so I’m hoping she read it. LOL I had a rare cancer at 30, went into remission at 35, then got a liver tumor at 40. Needless to say, I freaked out realizing the doctors were just going to start the whole deadly poison cycle all over again. I wasn’t about to just surrender to their torture, so I did a ton of research and discovered the healing power of autophagy & ketones. After a year of intense therapeutic keto and fasting (no doctor) the tumor (as well as several scar tissue masses) had shrunk. As of now the tumor in my liver is gone. The scar tissue is gone from the previous chemo. I healed my gut and my neuropathy. I cured my pre-diabetes symptoms. And I have more energy than I did at 20. It’s unbelievable. But what it’s shown me: WE ARE BEING POISONED. Doctors do NOT heal. They medicate. And the “conventional wisdom” is killing us. Which means either the “experts” don’t care. Or they’re complicit. 🫤

[@Beef_it_to_be_fit]

One just looks more healthy than the other. Mike sure does look like he is dying, and Bella sure looks glowing.

[@scasny]

I just wonder why his hair look so greasy like hell all the time.

[@Beef_it_to_be_fit]

@@scasny Fapping and video gaming so much he only showers when his mom makes him due to the vegan stench.

[@victrith1]

100 % true . When i saw him first time i whas wondering why hi loks so tired ...

[@thefinalroman]

Also he has the girly beta voice...

[@Jasonx-uo2mx]

Looks is deceiving

[@JamesOates-o1i]

just THANK YOU 4 your series..LOVE your presentations..informative, without sarcasm,..openly suggesting that we should 'expand' our knowledge without prejudice.."ignorance is NEVER BLISS" when personal health is involved!..keep presenting !!!

[@juiceboxboy8143]

Bringing research with empirical evidence and common sense. Thank you.

[@alycep.5886]

That is reassuring. Thank you Dr. Westman!

[@AKMcF]

Thank you Dr Westman, I like the direct addressing in this video, i'm sure Mic will see it and react accordingly by citing mechanistic mouse studies and adjusted statistically/clinically insignificant epidemiological data from the 7th day adventist 🤣

[@Eatbutternow]

One of them looks really healthy. Its not the vegan.

[@coffeemachtspass]

Speaking of LDL, Mic says ‘in my opinion…’ He might as well have stopped there and saved his breath (it appears he needs to conserve his limited energy). Unless Mic understands the function of LDL in Bella’s body, he has no basis for any opinion. Reading a bit of statistics on one million people to derive an average brings us no closer to knowing what Bella’s situation is. Unless Mic can point to actual heart disease in her body, his entire video is smoke and mirrors without substance. Similar to Bella, I do have LDL in the mid 300 range. I’ve done CT angiograms and CAC tests and have zero heart disease. Has anyone ever died of ‘hypothetical disease’, Mic, or do they die of actual disease only?

[@krisorsmso5094]

How old are you currently?

[@coffeemachtspass]

@@krisorsmso5094 Currently 53.

[@krisorsmso5094]

@@coffeemachtspass mkay just saying that most heart attacks do occur later in life. Takes years to formulate

[@coffeemachtspass]

@@krisorsmso5094 Yes and no. I understand what you mean, that age is still the greatest risk factor for death, but with total cholesterol above 400mg/dl for more than eight years, shouldn’t something have shown up by now? That is a rhetorical question. I don’t believe the Diet-Heart Hypothesis that was formulated by Keys et al. I’m convinced that they were barking up the wrong tree, but they convinced the whole pack to sit under it, baying away about cholesterol and saturated fat, for sixty years.

[@Debbie-rp1pi]

​@@krisorsmso5094why don't you check your CAC score. I'll wager if you're vegan it will be higher. Also triglycerides/HDL ratio under 2 is an indicator of heart disease and hers is fine.

[@petercyr3508]

If I went vegan here is a guess at what my labs would be. A1C 10+ Fasting glucose 200+ Fasting insulin 200+ HSCRP 10+ Trygliceride 300+ HDL 20

[@BestLifeMD]

You have diabetes?

[@habibahq4272]

Mine, too. It would be a hot mess!

[@mladencindric9017]

dear doctor you are so persuasive and polite in your video that it is a pleasure to watch you..... I believe in your every word and continue with the carnivor diet that I've only been on for three weeks... I wish you health and long life and greetings from Croatia-Europe...

[@Sedona8101]

That poor man looks so pasty

[@AnneMB955]

Totally agree, he’s not a poster child of health.

[@WH2012]

He's a nice looking guy, however, I agree about the skin tone. It actually appears to me that he has some kind of make-up/foundation on as you can see a delineation between his face and his neck. Imagine the natural glow he could have if he incorporated more meat and fat.

[@curiousfurious5877]

@@WH2012 Filters.

[@WH2012]

@@curiousfurious5877 Yes, very likely. But Bella is using a filter as well, not that it's needed.

[@Chris-2-of-3]

@@WH2012 I didn't realize that. How does one tell that?

[@ivan40229]

Doctor Reacts is my favorite series on youtube. Thank you Dr. Westman for what you do!

[@matthewrogowski8526]

For 6 weeks, I ate 4 ribeyes buttered with 1/8 stick of butter. Other three days were chicken, pork bellies, and salmon. My LDL-C went from 99 to 86. Explain that. More importantly my NMR lipid profile showed that may small, dense LDL particle count cut in half.

[@GJJC13]

No veggies or carbs?

[@matthewrogowski8526]

@@GJJC13, was not the only thing I ate. Had veggies and small amounts of berries. No grain or starchy stuff

[@witblitsfilm]

Dr Westman is always so respectful and diplomatic but his between the lines tearing apart of MictheVegan's qualifications and logic was totally and utterly savage in this video. Gently and diplomatically savage, but savage nonetheless 😄

[@mctrustsnoone3781]

Dr Westman is truly a gentleman!

[@wisdomandy9361]

So far every few months it seems like we're getting more good research about keto/carnivore. So it's only a matter of time now before the haters are forced to face reality.

[@mbaxter22]

I have to say, over the years, the preponderance of evidence appears to have piled up steadily in favor of the low carb / keto / sphere. The plant based / low carb community looks so behind the times with what we know now.

[@RaceLever]

Lol... Cool fairytale bro... ;-)

[@koaelmorz7073]

I actually don't believe it. I think this is propaganda to promote eating meat

[@JamesOMalley-hb4tf]

​@@RaceLeverit's facts.

[@janegrayson8718]

He is obsessed with carnivore because he wants to eat meat!

[@claudiavalencia2322]

😂😂😂

[@samdevallance1527]

I think so too😂

[@kimkempus7806]

🤭

[@TempleoftheDarkPartsoftheMind]

🤣Yeah he's got the meat hangries.

[@s12_22g]

People are different, what works for you may not work for somebody else. For me, bottom line is that all 4 relatives who have had stroke and heart attack all have normal BP and normal cholesterol. Elevated was blood sugar and is also on a heavy side.

[@billdublewhopper3064]

Normal cholesterol is what?

[@KAT-dg6el]

I’ve watched other videos that all say too many carbs and sugars causes inflammation. Inflammation is the problem. It’s why overweight ppl get better when they lose weight. It’s not necessarily the weight loss it’s the decreasing of inflammation that’s helping.

[@kinggeoffrey3801]

​@@KAT-dg6elthe inflammation part definitely needs more research. It makes sense, inflammation causes artery stiffness. Being insulin resistant is a major factor as well. Something I have noticed since giving up grains.

[@koaelmorz7073]

​@@billdublewhopper3064look it up

[@dwace9367]

Mythology and Dogma is far more popular than study, research, analysis and scientific studies. It's too bad that there aren't more people out there looking at and talking openly about health and nutrition revelations that run contrary to the popular view. A lot of people could benefit from this knowledge and understanding; being equipped with the tools that can effectively transform our heath and overcome bad dieting habits and food addictions. Keep up the good work Dr. Westman and stay informed people.

[@elizabethpearce4767]

Even among the low-carb/keto community this is true!

[@Willowy13]

Diets should be adjusted to each person. Vegans are more worried about the animal cruelty than anything else. This is their main point. I've been carnivore for 2 months (not strict) and lost 22 lbs. This is the first time in 30 years that I diet successfully both in loosing weight and keeping the diet.

[@stevericcio9740]

As I listen to Dr Westman I realize he’s a real doctor that isn’t trapped and squished to death in the medical box of zero outside thinking. Most doctors can only recite what they learned in med school whether it’s right or not it just doesn’t matter.

[@littlepotato2741]

I appreciate your commitment to reason. I've found a diet that works for me. I've have watched many people from many different diets for both meat-based and plant-based... so many zealots. Your calm demeanor is refreshing. Thank you. I might be going off the range a little, but I think this is an effect of a particular marketing technique which involved making people angry, judging other people, and feeling morally superior. It's a very powerful marketing technique that boarders on addiction due to the dopamine hit that people get without even lifting a finger. Because it's very effective and monetized, it is very common these days from individuals to major corporations. It's really killed people's ability to converse and hold two opposing thoughts in their head at the same time. This technique has been around for a long, long time, but I think modern technology which allow for mass communication has greatly increased the effect of it.

[@KAT-dg6el]

No two people are alike. Everyone needs to try different foods (including the elimination) and find out what works for them.

[@redleader7988]

I just realized I've been on the carnivore diet for more than 2 years now, which I started on 7/10/2022. Hard to believe it's been that long! My 85-year-old father noticed and started on it as well with amazing results!

[@tourdelance3698]

Dr. Westman is correct I was on Keto a year and a half in my cholesterol took a nose dive way down as I felt way better and I told my doctor it would go down after it went up initially when he was like couldn’t believe it!!!!!!🤣🙏🏻👍🏻

[@GJJC13]

So, for how long did it stay up until it starting going down? Thank you. Can you share some numbers?

[@arman0147]

Thank you all for your comments. Im new to carnivore diet and I was researching what is better vegan or carnivore. I felt amazing with carnivore and btw i have t2d and i stopped medications. Now I know im on the right track. Thanks for this video.

[@IQTech61]

When I was in graduate school, my cholesterol was "wonderfully low" (my doctor's words) I was also having serious issues with PTSD, depression, anxiety, and insomnia. I had lots of intrusive thoughts about death. According to a website I found, "Adjusting for age and sex, we found that those in the lowest quartile of serum total cholesterol concentration (5.77 mmol/liter)." Correlation is not causality but with a correlation this strong, I have to wonder why they are not looking at the possibility that low cholesterol can trigger mental health issues. I've been Keto for five years and have seen a huge improvement in mental health.

[@elibennett6168]

There seems to be some association with low vit D and suicide, and it is a fat soluble vitamin. Not sure if that was your case, but a possibility.

[@campersruincod6134]

It’s not difficult, mate. Too low = potential sign of a problem, especially with hormones. Too high = not great either…

[@Willowy13]

Cholesterol is very important to cell membranes. I'd like to see studies on the cholesterol level of very smart people because I've always thought they have higher levels.

[@Darlemonte]

Even prior to trying the carnivore diet for myself, my cholesterol was in the orange/red. But when looking over my bloodwork my doctor is explained to me, well one it was astonishing how all of my other results were in the green, but how efficient my body was at processing sugars to the point they didnt have a severely negative effect on my body and overall health. And that was an observation from my specific bloodwork results alone. Not preconceived notions.

[@Thomas-1976]

High cholesterol and low triglycerides is correlated through studies to increase longevity, low cholesterol (vegan etc) is the complete opposite. Recently had my bloodwork done after 3 years Keto and now 6 months carnivore and all normal, triglycerides was 124 mg/dl.

[@l0uann3]

My dad ate "healthy", did light to moderate exercise, labs were normal, BP was good. Still his heart vessels were clogged and died of heart attack. His third. So yes, the "healthy" diet is flawed and needs to be revisited

[@Val.Kyrie.]

Carnivore is amazing, and my kids are too smart for their own good and absolute beasts. I’ve often told my husband parents must carb up their kids to make parenting easier because insulin and sugar crashes don’t happen with carnivore kids THEY DONT STOP AND THEY HAVE ADULT CONVERSATIONS. If you want parenting to be easier where you don’t have to have intelligent conversations with young kids and kids who don’t burn out, please feed them a “heart healthy” diet. What’s (sad) hilarious is Mic’s LDL has him at a 2x mortality, while Bella’s has her at a 0.1x mortality. … I’ll take another stick of butter, waiter.

[@deddrunc5591]

Its easy to see that the carnivore appears to be vibrant and glowing while the vegan looks like he's on his death bed.

[@carlasKK42923]

To me Dr Westman and Bella have great complexions and skin tone, Mic looks like someone who has a flu or virus and is sick and feverish!

[@supersaiyanbino]

He's had the "I have the flu" look for about 5 years, lolk

[@teresawhite791]

Yes he does look sick

[@silynita]

He looks sallow and not because he has light olive skin. I have light olive skin myself and it could look like I have jaundice or look like a zombie. After ketovore/carnivore it looks healthy and pinkish olive.

[@NN-gw7qc]

Might be bad colour science in the camera he is using….lol…..but honestly tired of people bashing what other people are doing. He wants to be vegan….great, then preach to those that follow, same with carnivore strict or adding a few other foods, who cares….just do what makes you feel good and hopefully keeps you out of the hospital as you age

[@josephstaples]

Excellent video on helping all of us understand the importance of not relying on one value alone for health.

[@petejandrell4512]

Mic looks ill, sorta like a cadaver, all pasty and clammy.

[@CP-nf9my]

Science isn't a popularity contest on what we WANT to believe. It's what does the science say? Thank you again. I'm so glad I found your videos!

[@tmoney7643]

A person will only hear and see what they want to, they will ignore everything else... this is true for all of us - regardless of which camp we fall into.

[@gambunyakiatpetri8588]

The difference is that I believe many carnivore eaters went through the vegan phrase themselves (me too). We already have real life evidence. I've never seen people turned from carnivore to vegan yet.

[@kiwikim5163]

@@gambunyakiatpetri8588that’s me. 30 Years plant eating put me in a mobility chair. Animals based eating got me out of it.😁

[@TrangNguyen-ns2uo]

Dr. Wessman does great explaining on topic.

[@neomt2]

Mike the vegan has never shown full blood tests, just cherry picked stats..he's a gas lighter extraordinaire 😂

[@jackd6148]

My great grandmother had cholesterol over 300, she didn't eat much meat, and she was 96.

[@Robinhood179]

Whats amazing is ultimately we all have somewhere between 70-90 years on average on this earth. What you eat matters but also how you age. If Carnivore spikes my cholesterol but Im healthier feeling than ever before, why would I stop because someone cites a few studies they cherrypicked. Do what makes you feel your best and enjoy the ride.

[@leonardofernandez2086]

One thing I notice systematically: Vegan influencers are way more sarcastic than the keto and carnivore ones. It seems that they turn aggressive as they find themselves without real arguments.

[@AdryianBoydDodd]

We don't need to eat plants. You are not a cow, you don't have 4 stomachs to gradually digest grasses or leaves. Vegetables contain many different substances inhibiting digestion and the uptake of nutrients in humans. Potato and sweet potato's contain cyanogenics (substances or compounds capable of producing cyanide). Beans contain 4 to 140 times as much lignin (indigestible aromatic alcohol polymers) than fruit.

[@spudbono5747]

Even cows have to be careful. If a pasture grazed cow eats a lot of alfalfa or other legume, they cannot digest it and will get bloat. It's extremely lethal and unless you puncture the bloat or release it with a tube down their throat quickly, they will suffocate within a day or two.

[@SoPhamiliar]

I subbed after watching about 10 of your vids. Love your style: calms, polite, respectful, yet the subject being "busted" probably wouldn't know they been eviscerated. This Mike the vegan guy is so annoying. Dr Westman, props for the room lighting and somebody straightening out that youtube plaque. Love your channel.

[@mmanda515]

51 & haven't had a speck of a vegetable since baby food! (no joke, never liked ANY.. so just didn't eat 'em) People have to do whatever works for them. :) I'm happy, healthy, no meds, no heart issues etc.

[@jid2905]

My dad lived to be 101 years young and was coherent and ate meat all his life.

[@michaelkrull3331]

It's not about who's more science based. It's about going after an ex cult member.

[@katiemiller6558]

You state and explain things so well Dr. Westman!

[@AnneMB955]

Looks like Mic the Vegan is blatantly ignorant. Dr Westman is way too nice. Bella or Mic, who looks healthier? 🤔

[@Chris-2-of-3]

Well I know who's happier and more well informed.

[@emh8861]

They’re both pale. She’s wearing makeup. It’s a tie 🤣

[@AnneMB955]

@@emh8861 Fair enough. 😉

[@julienfroidevaux1143]

Matthew Perry of " Friends " fame looked healthy , vibrant and youthful on a hard core alcohol and drug diet . Do you really want to play these appeal to looks fallacies ?

[@joeberrouard3743]

⁠@@julienfroidevaux1143you must have a different definition of vibrant and youthful lol

[@IQTech61]

"For me" - the best two word phrase in the world because it owns the experience while allowing others to have their own experience.

[@Mhel2023]

Exactly. If someone is sharing THEIR experience I can respect and appreciate it. As soon as someone starts screaming what I need to be doing I shut down

[@maryford7435]

You are the best, love the way you explain things. Thanks for all you do!

[@iamalphalim]

Thank you Dr Westman for being so level-minded Growing up in church, I’ve had a close look at extremism and see it infecting everything from religion to diet to science to politics God save us all from extremist tendencies 🙏❤

[@connieh.4689]

Before viewing this video, beware that Mic the vegan leaves out important phrases or sentences,(ie a Dr. Shawn Baker video recently).... So his reaction videos are not truthful.

[@supersaiyanbino]

Good point...I'm so glad I saw that video...Just proves he's making BS content to fit his agenda..

[@matthewfindlay9010]

If you are vegan because you value animal life above your own that’s very commendable. But to argue it is an optimal human diet is quite frankly dishonest. Taking the moral ground doesn’t change the fact we evolved eating a predominantly animal meat diet. Plant food lacks the saturated fat our bodies require to thrive and the fact you have to eat copious amounts of plant matter to gain nutrients should be a good indicator of its quality

[@drillbabydrill892]

Paul Mason in a recent YT video says non-oxidized LDL is fine. It is oxidized LDL that can damage the blood lining. And smoking and sucrose are significant causes of oxidation.

[@billdublewhopper3064]

LDL oxidizes absent of any factors

[@hanko5750]

Yes I watched that video as well

[@nadaciric7487]

finally a smart obsevation

[@ekondigg6751]

Much as I appreciate Paul Mason, I tend to agree with Dr Westman about LDL, and cholesterol in general: as far as atherosclerosis is concerned, it's a non-issue, at best a marker for disease, but even then it's a pretty useless marker. Let's stop wasting time on LDL, oxidised or not, and look for the real cause(s) that provoke inflammation and other damage to the arteries.

[@v8rockz]

I am Keto for 2 months now. Never felt so good in my life.

[@deirdrewalsh1134]

You are such a gentleman Dr Westman 💕🇦🇺

[@nzadventurefamily3728]

Thank you Michael and Dr Westerman. This was a very useful contribution to the discussion.

[@TheBestFilmOneLiners]

Why does he look so unwell?

[@l0uann3]

I had been overweight since 10, bp slowly krept up through the years, that i had to start antihypertensives. Despite being on low carb. And during pandemic i injured ny knee, meniscus tear. Had 2 yrs of on and off knee pain, swelling. And i was only 45. Discovered carnivore diet and everything improved. And my high school uniform is now to loose for me when i tried it on

[@naseemahallyson5003]

I eat natural vegans twice a day .. tastes yummy and delicious .. looking at this wanna be vegan is nauseating .. even the lions in the Kruger National Park will give him a pass because of the smelly fumes he lets out from both openings.. keep sharing your great work Dr Westman .. my life changed because of Professor Tim Noakes and yourself.. i followed your page 4 almost 6 years ago .. never been better.. prayers from Johannesburg South Africa 🇿🇦 🙏

[@patphatkitten]

Cholesterol is needed to make hormones. Cholesterol is needed to carry and transport low and high density fats. Cholesterol is also used by the body to fix damaged tissues.

[@kevinbreitenstine2157]

Dr Westman, could you please interview/review Dr Annette Bosworth? She has as much real world experience and data with keto-her “keto continuum”-as probably anyone on KZbin. Thx

[@jimrutherford2773]

Dr. Boz, is one. He should also interview Dr. Berg. Dr. Ekberg. Dr Chaffee.

[@bellabrat4u]

Thank you Dr.Westman for all you do and continuing to help us navigate through the noise 🙏

[@daviddad1234]

Mic the vegan drives me nuts. Just listening to him sounds like he is whining.

[@Eric3Frog]

Regarding atherosclerosis, inflammation is the issue. The plaque is the body trying to protect itself. If you have a skinned knee and don't form a scab and subsequent scar, you will be bleeding from the injury until you die. This is similar to the damage in an artery triggering he body to create a plaque to protect the integrity of the artery. Would you rather not cover the arterial wound and allow it to expand, and then cause arterial rupture? How do we reduce chronic inflammation? That is better question.

[@mosnas66]

I don't think Mic is well, you can see it in his eyes.

[@Mhel2023]

This is no offense against that person, but the first thing I thought when I saw him was that he had rheumy eyes and was under the weather 😢

[@shielommiehervas1551]

If only. ALL the Doctors is for THE WELFARE of their patients LIKE YOU DR. ERIC❤

[@curiousfurious5877]

Where did Mic got the blood for his bloodwork after he looks like he hasn't his own?

[@staceyloveswill]

I noticed his eyes. Needs to have his iron and ferritin checked and stop worrying about our ldls 😂

[@Svevid]

looks like he dye's his hair aswell, wonder what that says

[@willkearns5055]

I'm carnivore , my dad has been about 90% carnivore most of his life ,he exercises daily , and is 74 years old and doing just fine , I think every person is different

[@XaqNautilus]

Mic almost has 400K subscribers. I'm looking forward to seeing you surpass him Dr. Westman!

[@chrishale8343]

if they all look like him they got a problem ever watched the walking dead

[@julienfroidevaux1143]

​@@chrishale8343You look overweight ?

[@michael53572]

Yes Dr Eric, Its about balance Plant based 5 days Juicy steak one day Giant fish one day No Hydrogenated oils literally Zero processed food Called a well sensible and thoroughly enjoyable balance Diet