Carol Dweck on Perfectionism

[@marvanbee]

I love her pace; allows me time to think about things while also listening to her. Great topic.

Yes, i agree. In my opinion its better than the higher pace Ted talks or any other type of high energy "Motivation" videos. I find those videos (including Ted talks) are just short term boosts that are not effective longer than few hours to days. Most of the time, not much practical help. Or more definitively , no long term gain from my perspective. Maybe i am just sick of standard motivation messages. Jordan B. Peterson is different though.

[@macguionbajo]

And here my anxious ass is watching at 2x haha

[@KelseyBeloved]

@@macguionbajo me too 🤣😵‍💫

[@Brenda-uf8pk]

Now that I am conscious of my type of perfectionism I have the power to move forward. Self-Knowledge leading me to the light instead of blindly walking around hoping for the best.

[@SubwayJack919]

I second that completely.

[@mrboobiesrider9212]

Brenda Niño I wish that was true to me

[@brionreid7316]

At 15:43 when she says roughly that a fixed mindset can interpret even putting forth effort as admitting "imperfection" really just hit home. Beautiful insight and also ow. : )

[@beatriceafatsawo8305]

I have been feeling depressed ,anxious and lost sometime now after college . This video has taught me a lot about myself and my thinking path . Thanks so much Prof Carol Dweck and the producers of this program . I am grateful I found this

[@ethan-2387]

This is an amazing talk! My eyes have been opened to truths and ideas that I had never thought about it. Thank you, School of Life and also Carol Dweck, for this video. I'm lost for words.

[@sun.sh.in.e]

Thank you so much for your lecture Carol! I have been feeling extremely depressed, lost, and anxious lately and you’ve just given me the answers and insight I’ve been looking for. I feel so much more at peace now.

[@thesalsa222]

omg this is literally life changing

[@Gosamkoh]

I really enjoyed her pacing of the speech; different from now-a-days speakers. Thank you for this speech

[@Lily-kh8dc]

This message was meant for me this morning. Was contemplating quitting my long term plan because there's an easier way out. I listened all the way through. Thanks Carol for a clear and practical talk. Pity that this gem of a video hasn't reached more people.

[@ashooaway]

This was a great talk and has aged like fine wine. The summary I'd give (but please listen to this as a podcast) is you'll do better by focusing on becoming the best version of you, as oppose to being perfect.

[@satnamo]

De struggle itself toward perfection is enough to fill a man’s heart. I must imagine Sisyphus happy.

[@sophiabeglari8705]

INCREDIBLE VIDEO!! I struggle with an actually paralyzing fixed mindset. I want to change and start growing. :) thanks school of life and Carol Dwek!

[@josermtz]

perfectionism cripples so many people

[@jocelynmuch]

This is a brilliant must watch presentation

[@lilijimenez3629]

Thank you for this. I had never heard of these two different types of mindsets. A lot of things clicked and it’s the biggest gift in the world to know nothing is permanent nor set on stone.

[@c.kainoabugado7935]

I love Carol's funnies 😆 abt fixed mindset & in herself. 33:02 memory improves 33:16 get smarter is thrilling 💥 To answer where fixed mindset is favorable. One place I found is in accounting and math. There's always an answer or a solution. Journal entries explain an adjustment or correction that was needed for problems/mistakes. Made me confident in that work. Anything structured that already had processes/solutions for issues that arose. Cuz this guarantees success or at least finding where I went wrong and fix it for success.

[@melwhitaker10]

Excellent Talk! Thank you so much Carol for your lifetime of learning and educating others!

[@escturtle5374]

Although there should be more value on "growth," our current grading system in schools value how "perfect" one is at the time of a test or at the time homework is turned in. If the student can not "quickly" enough get All of the homework completed and "perfectly" or test questions answered "perfectly," then the grade suffers. This feeds the "perfectionism" anxiety and there is no time for "growth" to happen for the student without the penalty to their grade. Students will only be able to more happily learn with a "growth" mindset when the current grading system is eliminated.

[@feskie11]

preachhhhh

[@angel_ina5700]

Fully agree with you

[@angelyeas]

I whole-heartedly agree. Our current school system is supremely flawed in that it only encourages perfectionism for examination's sake. Your success in academia is highly contingent upon how good you are at memorization- not actual knowledge of the subject. My entire life, I thought that I was just awful at science. It was until I took my free time to relax and study (with no exam in mind) that I truly began to blossom in it. Not only did the relaxing atmosphere help me learn, but it also catalyzed an emphasis on learning for curiosity's sake. The school system is killing its students.

[@BehindtheMuscle]

Thank you!

[@26willyvan]

In Colombia, and probably other Latin countries, we have a saying that goes “lo perfecto es enemigo de lo bueno” which translate to “perfect things are the enemy of good things” I feel like she did a marvelous job of elaborating on that.

[@adriana421]

She seems to be talking about the extremes, the pathological fixed mindset and the very accomplished people with a growth mindset, perhaps for simplification purposes. I can see how most ‘perfectionists’ might gravitate on a scale between these extremes and probably express both mindsets, sometimes at the same time, in various degrees.

[@vp3841]

And in different areas too: some of us can be sloppy in certain activities and completely paranoid perfectionist in others. As usual, everything is a a gray area instead of b/w.

[@brianeduardo1234]

Perfectionism leads to paralysis - often they achieve little you do your best and be considerate of others

[@charlesfraunhofer7893]

It also leads to a complete paradise and a wonderful life and the need to celebrate your life, it's all about experimenting with the different branches of perfectionism until you find one that makes your life not mediocre but tops!

[@danielmafileo4078]

Such a wonderful & loving woman! thank you for sharing wisdom for I am starting university tomorrow & I have to be honest, i fall in the fixed mindset category however I really want to learn how to replace it with a growth mindset & you have showed me. Thank you Carol Dweck & God bless! :)

[@mtsbrz]

Wow! Thanks a lot! Really, I don't have any better words to say how thankful I am for this speech.

[@danlc95]

I was recently speaking to my significant other about how things that came easy to me, I mastered, ans things that didn't, I avoided. if I can't do it perfectly, I won't do it at all.

[@karolinaurbaniak8524]

Carol brings deeper comprehension of spoken subject. Amazing speaker with dimensional growth mindset :) Indeed, perfectionism is only an approach. Mind can always seek better solutions, machine learning can always be upgraded, software can always be debugged. There is natural and evolutionary algorithm for growth. Thats all we really need :)

[@JohnMoseley]

A lot of the time, it seems you get called perfectionist when you're not satisfied with the things you've done and want to keep driving on and doing harder things. She seems to be saying the opposite: do the harder thing. The perfectionists are the ones who want to stay in their comfort zones, while those who want new challenges they might fail at are the opposite of perfectionist. This does seem a hell of a lot more useful and less boring than being asked to be satisfied with things that are easy for you. But I think she misses another side of perfectionism where you can't leave something alone even though it really is done and it's not because you're bored by it because it was too easy, it's just that you're massively insecure and so you worry away at it, trying to improve it when actually it's fine and you're probably ruining it.

[@sam4832]

I can identify in myself that type of perfectionism. Though what caught my eye in your comment was "being asked to be satisfied with things that are easy for you", I totally agree width, I go mad (inside mad, no worries) when people do that, 'cause if I'm going crazy about something (or perfectioncrazy), the most obvious reason should be that it is important to me. Saying that I shouldn't care makes me not care about what is being said. I think is important in this situations to get some peace of mind (and I guees is what people attempt to give me) to rescale my perspectives and.. understand that even though we may not ever be perfect, it doesn't separate us from archivement, 'cause working hard to get closer and closer of a chance to archive is already worth the shot.

[@charlesfraunhofer7893]

@@sam4832 typo, guees you said (it's guess), and well done perfectionist, but your standards lead to disappointment and failure, perfectionism isn't simply the training into becoming perfect, it's the search for the perfect perfectionism, it's the pursuit of excellence, as it's foolish to stick to a perfectionism that leads to failure in life.

[@richardbaker602]

Interesting and powerful message...What is also interesting is the inscription on the podium ' SPES', one meaning is goddess of hope

[@rosaruby757]

Miss Carol is a adorable .....grateful person _ in every aspect and concept ( her voice sotf spoken ) can feel have very low profile attitude . 😄😇

[@lcclark1307]

Dr Dweck’s message is spot on! I just wish she’d drop a piece of paper, or accidently close her Mac, or stumble on just 1 word. Nope. She’s flawless and a lovable recovering perfectionist to reveal herself. Growth mindset helps my Reading students to be more naturally flexible and resilient and daring to take risks...and enjoy learning. I grew up w a perfect sibling and I had curly naturally defiant hair, so I accepted my imperfections as features, not bugs...as they say;). Life’s short. Plunge into learning how to have more un-structured fun...nature hikes, music, art!

[@johnharvey7541]

Great video. What it leaves out is the gradations or shades of fix to growth mindset. It is not a "Black or white" thing as in you either have it or your don't. Everyone watching this video has a growth mindset regardless of how familiar the fixed mindset patterns are to you. Why? because you are watching this which is growth... This is the same as Steven Koltlers research on "flow states" which also have degrees of which we access flow rather than a in or out state off or on experiencing.

[@johnappleseed3048]

This video is such a callout

[@blakiecakes419]

A beautiful talk and a powerful message. I feel so much more enlightened now on how to deal with my own debilitating perfectionism.

[@Franklin-nb5vc]

I almost gave up the talk because of her pace but I'm glad I pulled through and I appreciate her uniqueness in that regard. Although this is not the first time I've encountered the fixed mindset vs growth mindset discussion, this is the first time I truly understand it. Now I know where my perfectionism and sulking stems from.I wish she discussed more deeply how to develop a growth mindset.Great talk!

[@nicolaslatrille2019]

>settings>speed>2.0> :)

[@humaparacha0808]

U need to read her book

[@abhinandantiwari8158]

She is so beautiful

[@Archipelagance]

Ms. Dweck that's fantastic. Thank you!

[@tadeyishu]

This was not the kind of thing id watch normally but it was worth it,.. I think I have a fixed mind set, but of different kind,... i am perfect, perfectly happy being average, perfectly happy not trying to be the best, perfectly happy excepting my flaws and being imperfect.....

[@ericjackson-nq4hp]

Anoushka Marcin of ASK ANOUSHKA brought me here--glad she did. Cheers, one and all.

[@praiselartey]

Please thank you

[@marthamartinez6321]

I learn a lot by watching your videos at lunchtime. Thank you so much for sharing all this great information. :)

[@navideology]

❤

[@yoyoyo5621]

omg what she's talking about are exactly things i've just been thinking recently....chills....

[@marycarter5511]

What we think about, we bring about.

[@AnnPorterCourtTherapist]

Interesting lecture from the best researcher on this subject: -- Growth mindset vs. Fixed mindset -- which one drives your motivations -

[@marksoberay2318]

Every American should be required to watch this once a week for the rest of their lives

[@blakiecakes419]

Beautiful, beautiful talk. I love the idea of embracing struggle. After all isn't life at least partly struggle? so why should it be bad?

[@aquamarine0023]

Amazing presentation I'm such an important topic. students should not be shamed for making mistakes they should celebrate their mistakes because that's how they learn

[@unicornsarereal8484]

She is such an inspiration... :-)

[@mosin9105]

Thanks

[@sangeedarshi7423]

Now perhaps if life were one large schoolroom, it would be okay to stay perfect. But life isn't like that.....this hits me hard. I was so perfect at school that's why my life is so miserable today. What she was telling is absolutely true in my case. I was so afraid to take challenges during my school time inorder to stay perfect and smart with the fixed mindset 😭

[@bryanbazilauskas8673]

That was brilliant, actually brought me to tears.

[@Mindseas]

Fantastic! Thank you for bringing this available

[@rosaruby757]

This cute lady really I love her voice ( salute ) 😇

[@galaxylucia1898]

Fantastic fantastic seminar!!! So happy i found this because I have some growing to do!!😂

[@claudinevasquez3092]

I love her example of "Blaming Morris" so much, I'm going to use that

[@rosaruby757]

My compassion not intimidation earns respect ..😱😇

[@hafsakhan5626]

It's kinda sad how schools glorify such "perfectionists" which makes it so hard to get out of this fixed mindset

[@thiagobohn4580]

Thank you for this, you might have saved my life Mrs

[@Claerdelune]

she is delightful !

[@Draic85]

It's a 40-minute video. Unfortunately I think the people who most need to know that putting in a bit of effort is a good thing, will not put in 40 minutes of effort to watch something like this. Maybe a teaser clip would be a good hook?

[@growden100]

Maybe this fixed mindset is behind Brian Williams losing his job in 2015: Why did Brian Williams get fired? Williams moved into the office two years ago, when he transitioned from NBC News to MSNBC in a rather public, rather excruciating crisis of his own making. In early 2015, he came under fire after he embellished his account of his role in an Iraqi helicopter attack on air in his Nightly broadcast.Oct 24, 2017

[@lydiahmwaniki1495]

😅 Fabulous struggle

[@liajohnson4841]

Don't give up on her pace of talk! Just put it up a bit under setting

[@LasVegasSand_s]

What are you gonna struggle with tomorrow?

[@Teh-Penguin]

Perfectionism would be leveling out the stereo so that I don't feel dizzy from the ever-changing balance D:

[@lcclark1307]

When I’ve made biig mistakes (first husband, or a job) i say “That was a good bad experience!” Code for: I learned alot! Geesh!

[@shyaaammeneen63]

Very nice and informative

[@CrimsonStrider]

Everything important in life requires huge amounts of effort over long periods of time. If effort makes you feel inadequate, incompetent You're at a huge disadvantage.

[@CrimsonStrider]

I like this sentiment, and it's something I wish I could realize more often in my life. I've held this idea for a long time, but I've only ever applied it to my strength training.

[@_cyrille]

I really need this. I'm still working on it though, it's so difficult being a perfectionist with a fixed mindset. I'm afraid of failure and disappointment.

[@letsgoBrandon204]

I have the bad kind of perfectionism. I am consistently surprised and confused by people's positive reactions to things I do/produce that I think are crap. You'd think that the consistent results would clue me in. It's not a simple case of knowing that perfectionism is bad, so don't do it. I'm missing something.

[@adaurymothe]

Amazing! Thanks!!

[@vivisilv13]

Thanks carol

[@ozzy5628]

Lou Reed was the man.

[@tmfelwu]

- are you a perfectionist? PAM SCOTT survey wisdom: the most difficult and challenging thing is to give up perfection and be myself - trying to stay perfect in other's eyes - striving towards excellence - lets not this - two types of mindset - fixed mindset - growth mindset - examples - students - company - relationship - role models - sports people - effort; effort makes u feel inadequate, undermined confidence, effortless success (duck syndrome) vs effort is cherished, i had a fabulous struggle, worked hard for something we value - errors/setbacks: calamities, surest sign of incompetence vs i had a fa - taking what they were good at vs taking challenge: - brain what happens when we have errors? nothing happened vs anterior cingulate cortex (ACC), detecting processing and correcting - cheating - lie - 2 examples of journalist who fabricated stories: cheat vs talented people who scummed under fixed mindset - Becoming is better than being. - paper on hero - growth mindset can be taught - pushing out of comfort zone -> over time becomes better; like a muscle - consequence - meaning changes of effort and difficulties - if i did it quickly, it was easy -> push outself out of it, it is waste of time, something hard, that is juicy. - Let's flounder

[@naping]

Thank you.

[@aminaassannam8252]

Thank you

[@hannamakela6989]

I hope the teacher she mentioned got her moment in the court of The Hague - and then did some serious time.

[@kirstenshindler7767]

Fixed mindset for validation from others….growth mindset driven internally

[@amberliberte5138]

The irony of this... I'm a workaholic and my therapist has said I'm a perfectionist (as well as multiple friends/family members). The idea of not putting effort into something is weird to me, I work hard and always try my best, yet I still feel like nothing I do is good enough. So how does that relate to her discussion around the fixed Vs growth mindset?

[@michaelwilliamlester]

Fantastic stuff

[@maramhesham2147]

"Growth-ism"

[@hafsakhan5626]

"becoming is better than being"

[@waynehawley3910]

This lady really is perfect, everything she says is so accurate. Although it really is like chasing a carrot over your head.. haha

[@vivisilv13]

Now it is clear for me. The carol

[@gnuPirate]

I like Carol (:

[@Lana-zy8yl]

Stick-to-it-ive-ness! :D

[@circleofattention6021]

I am definitely a fixed mindset... shit! Now that I know that, does it mean I'll have to embrace struggles?

[@RB-rl3lo]

THANK YOUU

[@charlesfraunhofer7893]

It turns out a perfectionist's shit doesn't stink, perfectionists with their standards and it's painful and difficult when your mates are giving you shit after the microsecond of perfection. If I could perfect another person and they choose for themselves whether or not to be perfect, then we could tackle the situation head-on. Of all my standards of normal it gets rejected by those living with me, they have no idea how complicated this is, it's extremely and painfully difficult, it's not as simple as "I'm perfect" without any standards, it's the human good, and developing human nature to be the perfect normal, it's not just thinking I'm normal, it's reducing minority groups and weirdness to make it so, it's a "growth" mindset and it's a development, a work in progress, my other perfection is great art and science with value beyond any of the effects on all your lives, trust me, it's complicated, this stuff isn't easy.

[@demianhaki7598]

Well, I'm fucked...

[@demianhaki7598]

Demian Haki But, hey, much room to grow! Great talk

[@bogumilastanek4049]

love her x

[@amitdahal2654]

Is she implying that people with fixed mindset are "Perfectionists" and vice versa.

[@Wahalaking04]

what is the best between fixed mindset and growth mindset based on everyday life?

[@rosaruby757]

I love and I want to be side of one good an intellectual lady like Miss Carol ( excellent ) love you miss Dweck 😘😇

[@hereticmorte666]

speed it up to 1.25 if you are dozing off

[@ANigerianPrince]

If you're dozing off it probably means this doesn't resonate with you very much. It's okay to skip to the many other videos. That being said I listened to this at 2x speed.

[@hereticmorte666]

haha, nah i absolutely loved the talk it's just her tempo made me grow impatient.

[@treelee2602]

probably a habit of working with young kids

[@Emile.gorgonZola]

speed x2 tbh

[@Tazmanian_Ninja]

The audio on this... isn't perfect 😅

[@nathanrichardson8402]

what do you do when you are surrounded by fixed mindset supervisors and managers?

[@lcclark1307]

Grow into a new job:)

[@y888-w2m]

That was such an interesting lecture to hear... I've learnt so much from the analysis of this concept. I'm a teacher, and I will be applying this approach with my students. 👍🏻🙏🏻

[@Colls-m8i]

"The hard work of learning HOW"

[@Cellardoor187]

Importante!

[@arthaFirefly]

sunday sermon?