Is This 25NL Student a CALLING STATION???

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📜 Video Description
Today we are joined by 25NL player Steve who has recently been working on his ability to fold more in spots that are underbluffed by the population at low stakes cash game poker. The AA hand in this video is an extremely important example of how relative hand strength and absolute hand strength can be miles apart. Steve's mental game comes into question towards the end of the video and we discuss how the pain of making mistakes in poker can be embraced and channeled in a positive way.

[@maxwelllittle5291]

I find that at the micros a good adjustment is to extend the "value" part of your calling range slightly, but then fold the pure bluff catchers. This both adjusts for population under-bluffing most nodes, but also accounts for polarization mistakes (like that KQ hand) where they end up value-cutting themselves.

[@TheOnlyToast]

This might be too big of a stretch, as there are spots where micro population grossly overbluffs. Best example: Hero on the BTN vs BB Villain Hero Cbets Flop small, turn goes check-check, Villain snapleads river for half Pot In this scenario you should usually call all bluffcatchers vs population, as most of population doesn't bet thinly enough for value with weaker pairs, but bluffs (close to) all of their air. Also mostly no Nuts in the halfpot size~

[@maxwelllittle5291]

I agree that you can pick off river stabs like this profitably in many pools - I was more thinking about the more aggressive lines. @@TheOnlyToast

[@jeffshackleford3152]

​@@TheOnlyToastwhat do you do against stations? I keep running into stations calling me down super light on boards that I wouldn't even continue on facing major aggression.

[@RUFFRIDE]

@@jeffshackleford3152 dont bluff stations

[@jeffshackleford3152]

@@RUFFRIDE unfortunately anonymous zoom pools, you can't really identify stations. If I knew the guy was a station I wouldn't bluff him, I would value bet his face off. As well as some of these boards are super scary, like 3 flush or 4 flush, 3 to Broadway, 4 to straight, where those types of hands would be in my range easily. To me it is almost psychotic to be calling down with 6th pair, because I might be bluffing there, but the pool likely is not. One of my favorites is the guys who call down when I bluff raise river, I have gotten raised on the river 1 time in the hour that I played today, on a straight and flush completing board, do you think I would ever call that with top pair shit kicker?

[@TheOnlyToast]

Great video! I think it's important to mention that in the AA hand, Villain almost never has KK, JJ (as even fish usually 3bets that), also 99, QT and KJ is reduced at least on the river as it would be very unusual to just go halfpot here, no? I think fish would mostly size up turn already (and definetly jamm river after turn B50) with these kind of hands. I also think half pot is probably the most overbluffed and mergy size as it's the way to go for many fishes who don't know what they should do. Also notable that if we give villain KJo preflop, it's not a stretch to say he's got KTo aswell which therefore probably plays just like he did with KQo. If he only has KTs and KJs pre then villains value is such a tiny part of the range... Maybe the calldown ain't so bad in this exact configuration and with the sizes used? 🧐 But even if call was winning a blind or two, folding flop is the easiest play & definetly not a bad one either as bigger mistakes on later streets are 0. 👍

[@ncannavino11]

Best Jordan Peterson impression ever

[@autisticwolf3409]

I was crying at that

[@JAKTPLO]

honestly, this is incredible. I fall into some of these traps sometimes. I just need to fold more when they show aggression out of nowhere after being passive

[@user-wy3hx3iz6n]

lol yup, villain hit random 2 pair, set, or straight😂

[@karmababy5077]

Pete, I want to thank you for this video as I think hit highlighted an issue with my game that I think subconciously I knew I had, but now I'm certain is my biggest leak. The difference in river bluffing frequencies by the pools as you move up stakes is not something many coaches talk about, or at least haven't articulated it as well as you guys did here.

[@gsomethingsomething2658]

I watch these for the comedy; the poker stuff is a nice bonus 😁

[@blackopal3138]

Disagreed with the analysis on both AA hands, lol.... First one, I think the mistake was betting the turn He might not even bet the river when the flush drops, if he does, you can call, either way you lose much less, but it's easier to get away from a river bet now, and if you are good and fold, you haven't lost much either Certainly, calling the times you are good won't pay for the times you are not good. Even 1 of 4, you can fold, and I think that is not reasonable to think. 1 in 5 or 6 at best. Cz he limps-calls raise, check -flat calls, check -raise,. Limp-calls raise - that is broadway/mid-board material, or suited cons, that board and action are high danger area. You needed to back off turn. On the second AA, I was opposite again, I think being scared on the flop is too quick to feel defeated. I don't think any villain is going to be there with QT, or 2 pair. KJ maybe, but w/e, yes shitty flop, be cautious.. then you are not cautious... I think I bet flop too, but I call his raise quickly, putting him on AK or KQ It's true the check raise says 2 pair or set, but I think the bet size hurts that narrative, he should be betng bigger if he's trying to shut it down. Then it's a good run out, I call him down if he keeps betting. If he shoves turn or flop, Idk,.. but I will check flop sometimes too. I think you can just check it down from flop is ok too, or call reasonable open if he does. Thing is, is it is a shitty board, you are entering a chess game you don't have to. Esp if you are a player that doesn't like folding, then keep the pots manageable. I think yo are looking for reasons why your aces might be good instead of why they are just 2 cards. After the flop comes, they drop from #1 to like #10, even 20. You'd never spend that much preflop on 33 or JQ. Honesty, Idk anything tho... fkng game lol

[@IronFist2508]

Im never calling K8s on the river there vs 3.5x overbet jam at 25nl. I don't care if villain is aggressive reg, if he was going to bluff I'm pretty sure he'd choose a smaller sizing, probably something like 80% pot - 1.5x pot. But 3.5x overbet jam is NEVER a bluff at these stakes. He's always gonna have a set or a straight

[@charlieyhp]

At these stakes it is either nutted or maniacs clicking buttons with these sizing. Not sure which one is more likely. But I think I will call K8o

[@IronFist2508]

@charlieyhp Your hand has to be good here 44% of the time just to breakeven. You really think that your hand is good nearly half the time here? I don't. Our hand is a pure bluff catcher. I very much doubt he's shoving 3.5x pot with a worse 2 pair

[@chrisungoed8793]

Spot one, do you really win 17% of the time on the river holding these suits? I don't think so tbh. Ac is a bad blocker here vs this size, I'd rather call a jam

[@Kosgs1]

Is all salt sand or is all sand salt?

[@roderick8254]

negative feedback is not necessarily good, you can easily make people feel bad without it being actionable, just or fair. So to just share this nonchalant idea that we must embrace and accept negative feedback is quite simplistic and particularly bad in the context of poker where one must re educate their emotional responses.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

I didn't take it like that. I took it as meaning, we have to suck it up and call because calling is profitable here.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

What is the deal with the fish min raise? I don't understand where that even enters in someone's mind.

[@TSH-sx3ec]

I think they're scared you will fold, might just be an exploitative fold

[@archie2281]

Sometimes it’s for the “let’s bet to see where I’m at”. Also a cheap bluff in their eyes. I’ve found when they do ip on the turn for example it’s extremely weak because the have a middling pair and they want you to check river to them so they can get to showdown

[@jeffshackleford3152]

​@@TSH-sx3ecI usually fold my bluff catchers to min raise.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

​@@archie2281 I don't want to say I bet to " see where I am at", but I do in a way, especially against passive fish. Like the one with James Arakkarshar, where he said fish will let you know their hand, was basically my theory behind it. The above is JTO, so not solver approved at all.

[@jeffshackleford3152]

@@archie2281 I didn't notice that in my hole card evaluation. I will have to check, thanks for the tip

[@GForceExotics]

Ha, yes he's a station 🙂

[@insomnyteq]

Seems like we’re just leveling ourselves @nl25…….all of this thought and effort at a level where 90% of the pool is watching Naruto while they click buttons….that being said great video, Steve move up my guy

[@ProWagerHub]

Damn no shot 😂 I actually used to watch Boruto and autopilot

[@ProWagerHub]

But I disagree on leveling. Fish tend to have a lot of similar spews and polarization errors. Seems like by accepting variance and understanding these exploits are a big part of my win-rate (4bb over 250k hands mostly NL25)

[@travistowell7149]

hello gamers

[@Jacob-ud9fe]

Handsome donk

[@Jimmyballsthe3rd]

The first hand I really don’t agree with the fact we’re losing on the river 80% of the time. Think it’s much closer to 60, really easy spot when they choose the down size