Cars like Aptera ARE the Future, Here's Why

[@richpate9436]

Yes, I admit that I am excited too. So are people whom I respect, like Sandy Munro, who knows a thing or two about EV design and manufacturing, as well as the disruptive benefits of such a unique design. Sandy has contributed immensely to helping Aptera cut production costs. After researching Aptera's design philosophy, their R&D efforts, and listening to several of Munro's videos, I decided to invest in Aptera and even reserved one for myself. This is where EV efficiency, driver experience and affordability meet the road. I feel Aptera will tap right into the growing pent-up demand for affordable EVs when it finally hits the market.

[@aussieideasman8498]

I'm intersted in how much EV design and manufacturing Munro has done? Can you reference his experience? Sounds like BS to me.

[@garywozniak7742]

@aussieideasman8498 a quick Google search and I found the Munro was a disciple of Dr. Deming. Munro started his manufacturing career in the tool and die space and later moved to Ford where he implement DFA ( Design For Assembly) techniques on their engine line and later Design For Manufacturability techniques that improved the speed and quality of Fords design amd manufacturing pricesses. He helprd save the company billions and was nominated For the Henry Ford Award twice. He went on to assemble a team and formed Munro & Associates his consulting firm. I won't write an encyclopedia but his credentials and achievements in the automotive manufacturing space are respected and sufficient enough where they can't be impuned by some bitter guy from down under.

[@BillMitchell-lm8dg]

@@aussieideasman8498 - It IS b.s. Munro does not design cars. He designs tools and production methods.

[@BillMitchell-lm8dg]

The latest cars introduced by car makers in China blow all current EVs away, even the Tesla model 3, based on price. No matter how cheaply Aptera can produce its 3-wheeler, some 4-wheeler made by a Chinese company will simply blow it away on price. The ONLY thing that could save American car makers is a huge tariff on Chinese cars, but look how much that has helped Harley Davidson in keeping abreast of the motorcycle industry.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@BillMitchell-lm8dg He didn't put Aptera onto CPC, either.

[@dougbrittsan-yn9sl]

I thought it was a mistake to just take a regular car and electrify it. For the F150 lightning to weigh 2,000+ pounds more than the ICE version is nuts. Aptera started with a clean sheet of paper and designed a vehicles that is light, strong, efficient and aerodynamic. In addition, Aptera owners will be impressed with what after market companies will offer.

[@Matt18001]

Fully agree with the insanity of just electrifying ICE vehicles. In terms of aftermarket companies, it really depends on how well the Aptera sells. I run a small custom fabrication company, to do a full scale production run (even outsourcing to a factory) you need 1000+ units sold. I'll be prototyping some stuff mostly for personal use once I receive my aptera, but until there is a critical mass of vehicles in the wild it's very difficult to offer a product at a price an average consumer is willing to pay.

[@battery_wattage]

@@Matt18001I hope you make a better sunshade that can swing and extend. The current sunshade on Aptera is super limited and inferior to everything I’ve ever used. Very disappointed with Aptera when it comes to that feature.

[@ASawyerInAZ]

​@@battery_wattageSince we haven't seen Production Intent vehicles yet, not sure you can assume it hasn't been changed.

[@battery_wattage]

@@ASawyerInAZ I don’t remember which clip ,but it was said that the sunshade design is locked in referring to the single direction of movement. I doubt Aptera is going to change it unless there is mass feedback.

[@ASawyerInAZ]

@@battery_wattage ​@battery_wattage I don't remember that, but thanks for the update. Maybe a third party will make something you like better once production has started.

[@nthused]

I’m an older person, in my 60’s…the issue I’m most excited about, as I’m closer to the end of life than the beginning, are the reduced environmental impacts the Aptera brings in both operation and manufacturing that most EVs and ICE companies neglect. All in all it’s a very modern approach to personal transportation. Perfect? Hell no! But the company’s vision and processes are both practical and forward looking…while making the world a little better than they found it.

[@samueltucker8473]

Same here.

[@geezers10]

Same demographic, same view.

[@MrCarlton]

Right to Repair is an undervalued aspect too. Having mechanic competition will lower the upkeep, give skeptic DIYers a chance to understand the car, etc.

[@artboymoy]

I was almost thinking that Aptera can actually sell it as a kit vehicle as well. (If laws permit it) All you really need is a lift and maybe mechanic....

[@fourteenfour1]

you do realize that you already have everything Aptera is claiming to offer right now for nearly every car you can buy. the aftermarket is filled with both oem and oem comparable vehicles and its been decades since laws were passed to allow individuals and those they choose to perform warranty work. with Aptera have fun finding alternative parts as most of their parts will be bespoke to their vehicle which means you pay whatever price they charge. Right to Repair does not automatically mean cheap to repair.

[@artboymoy]

@@fourteenfour1 True. But labor is always the most expensive out of any work being done in any repair, whether it be car, home, or anything else. Paid $250 to have a guy replace a capacitor on my AC unit to get it working again.

[@michaelainsworth6849]

Just the fact that you can get decent charger range overnight with 110 makes street charging an option with commercial or non-commercial options in the future, even without solar. Insurance being 1/3 cheaper is also a big plus.

[@ccibinel]

I wouldn't count on cheap insurance materializing. Insurance companies are great at finding reasons to set high prices especially on unique/low volume vehicles.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@ccibinel I know a number of people who have already gotten insurance quotes on Aptera, and the less expensive expectation seems to be confirmed. Of course, once actual loss experience starts developing, this could change in either direction.

[@ccibinel]

@@n.brucenelson5920 I'm Canadian - 🟥🍁🟥 Here in BC we have a government controlled insurance company as our only option. No other options if their assessment is different. In general they are slightly less sleazy than commercial insurance but lack of choice sucks.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@n.brucenelson5920 Dumb people for asking, and even dumber insurance companies for quoting.

[@examinerian]

​​@@aussieideasman8498The bit about the companies is true - insurance has to be an unknown thing at the moment. I'm enthusiastic for Aptera, and have a reservation, but can't see how any insurance company can estimate crash repair costs and therefore put a value to that part of their cover. The US insurance market works differently from here in the UK, so maybe companies there are happy to work on unknowns, but here they are famously cautious until proven. Currently, rising UK insurance prices feel more like we're being farmed for cash... The bit about the people asking? Not so dumb. However, trusting that any "quote" received at this stage will be valid in a year or two - that's just blind hope.

[@carmonben]

I think the most important part about the aptera is the ability to have zero home charging at all, as the charging has been the most major roadblock for ev adoption Range doesn't matter if you can charge fast wherever you go, and skipping charging entirely is even better

[@shamust67]

And if the solar charging isn't enough for you, the Aptera Launch Edition (LE) can supercharge up to 400 miles in an hour! What?!? The LE has a 40 Kwh battery that can go 10 miles per Kwh, so if you stop at a supercharger and pay $.30 per Kwh (that's the high estimate), that comes to a cost of 3 cents a mile. If you drive a GV (gas vehicle) that gets 25 Mpg, and you pay $3 per gallon, then you're paying 12 cents a mile. That's four times the cost per mile. Wow!

[@ccibinel]

Massive rollout of level 2 is needed at malls, offices and apartments. The government is pushing level 3 but the real problem is a need for level 2 subsidies. Using chargers with OCPP 1.6 (smart charging specifically) allows them to share a small number of circuits.

[@VedaSay]

The 1000 mile range, will actually fit zero charging situation for most users.

[@garywozniak7742]

​​@@VedaSayI don't see the need for 1,000 milesoff range either. But for example if you kept the charge in the 20% to 80% range that 600 miles slice of the battery would take about an hour to charge at 60kW on a FAST charger. For someone who really needs that distance I guess it's good. However I think it is a waste of battery materials.

[@carmonben]

I think even the 600 will fit zero charging for most users, youll only need to top off from some l2 occasionally during winter

[@tims8603]

All good points. You didn't mention it, so I will. There are a lot of retired people in the US right now and that number will increase in the next decade or so. Their kids are all grown up and it's either 2 elderly people or just one. I'm one of them and Aptera is almost the ideal vehicle for me.

[@TailosiveEV]

Great point!

[@J9_j3]

i owned 2-door car for 17 years.7 of them as only vehicle in the family. for a couple and without little kids 2-door is totally sufficient 98% of the time

[@DrTeeHenry]

And for that other 2% renting or borrowing will probably be more than satisfactory. I definitely agree that it just doesn't make sense to have a 2nd car in the garage just for that 2%... but it hasn't been easy for this 70-year-old brain to come to that realization. I'm there now. For the family where 3+ capacity is needed a lot of time, then, yes, a second vehicle (even as the primary and the Aptera as the secondary) makes sense.

[@tims8603]

@@DrTeeHenry A lot of home supply stores have rental trucks that are around $20 for the first hour. Many of them deliver to your house for a small charge. Most people don't need to own a pickup truck anymore.

[@DrTeeHenry]

@@tims8603 💯

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@DrTeeHenry Walking into a showroom and buying one makes sense.

[@shilvock22]

Thanks for not being one of those Tesla fans that only thinks they are the only car worth getting and brining us other amazing products like Aptera.

[@NAGIUXS]

I feel the same way about some Aptera fan that think Aptera can do no wrong and Tesla is absolute evil. As an Aptera investor I feel neutral is the was to go. Appreciate each product for what it is

[@timsmith6815]

We can argue Tesla vs Aptera when we have an Aptera in the driveway. Till then Tesla wins the argument.. can’t compare a physical Tesla to a Aptera 3D model.

[@shilvock22]

@@NAGIUXS 100% it's ok for people to like Rivian, Tesla, Ford...ect...at the same time. We've become such a binary society that thinks if you love one thing you have to hate on all the alternatives 😟

[@shilvock22]

@@timsmith6815 true, it hasn't entered production yet, but why do we have to argue? Sounds like you fit right into the category of Tesla fan I was talking about. So typical. I love Tesla AND Aptera, they're both amazing products

[@garywozniak7742]

​@timsmith6815 they are different products. I'm viewing the subject ss a condo owner who won't get a conventional EV because I don't want to have to use public chargers constantly. If not the Aptera I would go with a hybrid.

[@DrTeeHenry]

Excellent. At 17 ½ minutes, it's just about right for a 60 Minutes segment. Like that'll happen, but it's great that you're doing what you can to get the word out! Bravo.

[@denysilyichov]

Mahalo, good points! I share your enthusiasm/obsession)). In my view - the only remaining questions are - if/when Aptera can manufacture, scale up & deliver, execute R2R service, and warrant their products reliably? If/when they do (with our little help)), they're going to disrupt the auto industry... Big time. Long term - only most efficient one survives)). Hawaii Aptera ambassador, investor, and reservation holder. Aloha and Happy New Year! 🇺🇦🇺🇲

[@isca_fpv9653]

Drew! True, awesome and amazing. You have such a talent in talking and communication. I am greatful to you making time to put your words out there. It means a lot to me. Everything you say nails it and is true also for Switzerland! You are my hero. You deserve a free Aptera right away 🤗

[@darwinskeeper421]

I agree, Aptera is focused on an under served part of the public, those who want a smaller, more efficient vehicle. One thing I hate about the automotive industry, and the EV industry is that it seems to overfocus on bigger, better, and faster. I understand the reason the EV manufacturers go there, it's easier to build up manufacturing capacity when you're selling an expensive, high margin product. It just doesn't help those who can't afford a $50,000 plus vehicle, and don't have the ability to plug into a 220V outlet at home. The Aptera could work for these people. It also works for single folks like me, and my three young nieces. It provides something that other manufacturers aren't providing.

[@dvader3263]

You can purchase an EV for closer to $40,000, and the range would be more than enough for most people. With a tax credit in 2023, the price was closer to $32,500. Subtract $200 per month for not purchasing gas, which covers about $10,000 worth of loan and you're down to $22,500.

[@aussieideasman8498]

A Mazda Miata (MX5) focus is on just a fun drive, mainly on a winding road.

[@barnabasseadog7660]

@@aussieideasman8498 Yeah, I own a '08 MX-5 PRHT. It was my daily driver for thirteen years. Until I acquired an Arcimoto FUV in 2022. Now my Aptera dashboard says delivery expected by late 2024. I have been practicing right-sized mobility for awhile now.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@barnabasseadog7660 What is your order number and what configuration?

[@Bobby-King3]

I think this is one of the best videos you’ve made! Well done, love the data driven insights!!

[@freddybell8328]

It's a good video with a mostly holistic perspective but hes not taking into account a lot of things especially how AI will effect the future.

[@aussieideasman8498]

Kills the factory tour, where he saw almost nothing and asked very little.

[@IndigenousEarthling101]

BEV also have tremendous support infrastructure already built in the form of standard electrical outlets. They can also charge from the sun (in extreme situations like the zombie apocalypse, alien invasion, daily life in Montana, or a college student budget) using a solar blanket and portable battery charger.

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

I like your point about how many people live in places like apartments having to park where they cant charge.. owning an EV for all these people is not an option. The Aptera seems to solve this issue and will allow MANY more people to own an EV

[@amosbatto3051]

Most people living in most apartments also don't have access to a 120V outlet, and fast charging the Aptera's 41 KWh battery at 50 kW is going to take longer than fast charging a Tesla. I calculate that it will take 35 minutes to charge the Aptera Launch Edition from 10% to 80% of battery capacity at 50 kW, whereas it takes 27 minutes to charge from 10% to 80% in the Model 3/Y Long Range with a 75 kWh battery charging at 250 kW. Hopefully Aptera will eventually support faster charging than 50 kW, but faster charging involves more cooling, which is why I suspect that Aptera decided to limit the fast charging to 50 kW.

[@kevinscott8642]

Thank you Drew for this excellent analysis! I’m an investor in the company and am expecting Aptera to be extremely successful. The one point you didn’t mention when talking about the naysayers claiming it won’t sell because it’s a two seater is the huge 7 foot long cargo area. While there are successful two seaters like the Corvette and the Miata, Aptera is unique in offering all the performance and fun of a sports car, while having plenty of cargo space to fit things like luggage, bikes, and surfboards. There’s even room for two people to sleep comfortably in the back, which is going to make it the perfect road trip car for me! 😎

[@dougbrittsan-yn9sl]

…2pairs of snow skis, snow boards, snow shoes, golf clubs…

[@VedaSay]

Aptera is not comparable to any present vehicle in market. Its primary market will be kids who are just making to college and when they will be of age for their first new car purchase. This group is increasingly not buying homes or investing in any assets. Midlife crisis age group who don't want to be the proverbial body bag. Aptera is far safer. And people who want an efficient or fun second car. Aptera will fit most of filters on this last group.

[@edvardaspuotkalis4703]

First of all it won't sell not because of two seats. It's not going to sell because there are similar cars on the market and they are on the edge of bankruptcy. The only reason they stay afloat it's because they are publicly tradeable companies. They names are Solo - Electromeccanica and FUV - Arcimoto. They are sold way cheaper than Aptera's the only available 33 thousand dollars launch edition and they can't make enough sales to make breakeven. Aptera is not publicly tradeable and you are going to lose all your money if you join the crowdfunding. This crowdfunding going non stop for the last 3 years and production constantly delays. Owners claim that Aptera going to have up to 40 miles of charging by the sun per day - so it's free energy - however there is no proofs for it. I think it's exaggerated mileage for at least twice. A year ago the claim was only up to 20 miles. I personally think the 20 miles also exaggerated number. I give it 20 kilometers or 14 miles for 12 hours on the sun. In California. Nevertheless I am hoping for wonder as three years ago I was charmed with the idea, invested and it took me all this time to realize that owners ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT. Don't take me wrong they probably make next year twenty of those vehicles (they call it vehicles not a car just to pinpoint that it wouldn't need car insurance and license but rather motorbike insurance and license) however the company will not sustain unless they sold their vehicles for under $10 000. Honestly $33 200.00 and price is subject to increase for recreational, holidays thing - give me a break brothers and sisters. And nobody knows how long it's going to last. What is going to break in it. By the way - they let the buyers to fix their own Apteras by releasing instructions of how to do it. The owners put it that this move is their good will and original marketing idea however I suspect the company simply don't have resources to support maintenance. I can keep going as i was trying to keep track of the firm all this time but long story short - they are not new Teslas. They are going to run out of money soon enough and close the firm. Unless one big chinese or arabic fish buys them in full which is very unlikely. Well it's only likely if they make sales large enough to proof it expandable. But my prediction they won't . Not for this price.

[@tims8603]

@@edvardaspuotkalis4703 A very nihilistic reply. You are entitled to your opinion but I think you're overly pessimistic.

[@barnabasseadog7660]

@@edvardaspuotkalis4703 I bought an Arcimoto FUV in 2022, my dad bought a EM Solo the same year. My experience with Arcimoto showed me how Aptera can, and will, avoid all the mistakes the FUV has made. I met Chris Anthony at Fully Charged Live in San Diego when Sandy Munro unveiled Gamma. I asked him about beta testing his vehicle and he mentioned something about Paradigm investors. I figured that ship has sailed. Six months later I would get my opportunity, and joined the Accelerator Program. They will deploy mobile techs like Arcimoto does, but I live twenty-six miles from Aptera.

[@g60dood]

It's always weird for me when I hear someone else talk about Aptera who understands the overwhelming benefits vs. the minimal drawbacks. Aptera won't serve everyone, but neither do cargo vans, motorcycles, or semi trucks, and there are plenty of those driving around.

[@aussieideasman8498]

Aptera isn't driving around.

[@niq872]

cargo vans and semis literally serve everyone how do you think goods get to the stores and services get get repaired and made...

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@niq872 And Aptera Motors needs vans and trucks to get the components to Carlsbad. Ships and planes, too.

[@g60dood]

@@niq872 Not as drivers, which was the whole point of the comment.

[@MultisportOfficial]

@@aussieideasman8498 Yet

[@benbrown8258]

I have been very impressed with your Aptera interviews/drive. Listening to the first three minutes of your video I can wonder if you have had direct conversations with people who lived in the early 1900's? I have. Thousands of small rural communities on railroad lines became ghost towns when the interstate highway system (intended among other things to speed military transport) displaced not just commercial transport, but, rural passenger transport. (You may want to read, Culture and Agriculture: The Unsettlling of America if you don't have direct connections.) Aptera, has potential to shake us from the concept of infinite consumption with zero concern about consequences. This is not because of unlimited freedom to privately consume but rather greater freedom to personally not consume the future. There will be some consumption, but, if Steve, Chris, company and partners can maintain their vision it will be an almost unimaginable fraction close to matching the planet's capacity.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Great comment. I live in such a town now, and knew people alive in the late 1800s. You hit the nail on the head.

[@tims8603]

Yeah, my town used to have 2 passenger train depots before I was born. Trains are very efficient people movers. Airplanes are not. Talk about high speed rail systems is mostly just talk. It'll probably never happen in the US now.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@n.brucenelson5920 He should be a carpenter.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

@@aussieideasman8498 My Great grandfather, who was born in Ireland around 1850,, moved to small town Iowa and became the town carpenter who helped build the two churches and the school house. He was paid $2000 to build the entire school.

[@paulworkman2370]

One demographic you didn't mention, but i think could be a major market for Aptera, is empty nesters and retirees. The kids leave home, and a two-seater makes a lot more sense. If you retire and move to Arizona, it would be perfect. When FSD becomes available, it'll probably be a must-have for this market especially, btw, so Aptera probably needs to be more on this even than Tesla.

[@Readerb86g]

Agree with this. College was 50+ years ago and two seats are fine just as it was for our 5 Miata's we have had. Even when I have to take Mom (90+ years young) for her social outing, which is grocery shopping, the enclosure beats having her on handle bars as I try to peddle a bicycle. That would never happen anyway 'cause she'd beat the livin' stuffin's outta me.by trying that. 😛😜🤪

[@neilfromclearwaterfl81]

I suppose there are not many people left who remember how nice electric powered public transportation was with the buses, trolleys and light rail services running on overhead wires back before GM and friends bought them up and replaced them with dirty, smoky diesels or eliminated the systems altogether so ICE powered taxi cabs or personal vehicles had to be used instead. You heard the hum of the electric motors and sometimes the contacts on the power wires overhead. Cities got a lot dirtier once they electric transportation systems were eliminated. Then it became a given that you would have a black ring around your collar if you went into the city. Big business worked hard to get rid of the existing electric public mass transportation that was in place back then and worked to keep it scaled back in order to push the sales of private vehicles and increase oil and gas consumption. Longer, wider, heavier were the marching orders back then with many full sized family cars only getting 8 or fewer MPG in the city requiring them to have 20 to 32 gallon fuel tanks. Big business set us back 100 or so years when they did all this. If an EV gets 5 Miles per kWh then 120 volt 15 amp charging is quite viable. I have only charged at home with the free 120 volt charger that comes with the car for a decade now and never woke up to a car that was not fully charged in the morning however I charge when the car needs about 100 miles put back in. My current EV gets 5.1 Miles per kWh. Aptera for me would be much more than I would need since at worst I might drive 50 miles in a day however most days its 10 to 20 miles so the car would never need to be plugged in to charge it here in Sunny Florida. Joe and Jane Average in the US drive less than 30 miles per day so most people in the US would do just fine with the Aptera's solar charging only. Best!

[@n.brucenelson5920]

I am old enough to remember the electric trolleys and the El in Chicago. I have also lived in Europe and Japan, where Electric vehicles such as the TGV and the Shinkansen are in common use. Some of these can hit speeds of almost 200 mph.

[@Robert_Prather]

it's brilliant! I have a Model 3.. but when I saw this.. I wanted this immediately.. Solar charging? sign me up! I'm tempted to trade in my long range! I think Aptera is the start. In the future.. hopefully it pushes advances in Solar, and we start getting more "traditional" automobiles.. 4 doors/4 wheels. Aptera said they were going to look into a 4 wheel model. The future is crazy exciting!

[@aussieideasman8498]

Have a go at trading your long range today? lol

[@Robert_Prather]

@@aussieideasman8498 lol don't tempt me. I don't think Aptera is setup though for trade-ins

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@Robert_Prather One more problem with their lack of service, but that would only be applicable if they had a product.

[@Robert_Prather]

@@aussieideasman8498 well the aptera is coming. there's plenty of videos showing it. I figured though that time is on our side.. let them get the bugs out and really get rolling before ordering.. once everything is all setup.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@Robert_Prather "well the aptera is coming. there's plenty of videos showing it." There are videos showing the world is flat. It isn't. "I figured though that time is on our side.." Since 2006 not long enough for you? I am truly surprised. "let them get the bugs out and really get rolling before ordering.. " Certainly. "once everything is all setup." When they have proven skin cooling works, and independent testers have given it the green light as a viable machine. Dead right.

[@totallypluggedin]

Regarding the infeasibility of plugging a regular EV into a standard outlet - I disagree: A level 1 charger (plugging in your portable charger) can provide more than 40,000 miles of range per year for a vehicle such as a Tesla Model 3. Now, that assumes you’re charging 24hrs per day which is not realistic, however, an overnight charge (essentially half that time) can provide more than 20,000 miles per year. The average American drives about 13,000 miles per year…. That being said, I do agree that it will be even more awesome with an Aptera as that will definitely be a feasible option. We will be able to leverage electrical infrastructure to serve larger numbers of EVs if we shift our focus to smaller, lighter cars and shift to slower more abundant charging… Or buy an Aptera and plug in to the sun! Thank you for your focus on efficiency, not enough channels are focused on that. PS - glad your background music is very low, it would be even better if there’s none at all. IMO Just use it for fade in and fade out at the end of segments or something like that, otherwise it adds no value. You have a lot of interesting things to say, I want to be able to focus on your words.

[@theodorehaskins3756]

So there’s no doubt in my mind that buying 3 wheels is cheaper than buying 4, less to wear out and less to replace, and so, as long as that remains, the case, Aptera will be relevant to a lot of buyers, and some of us may purchase an Aptera as a second vehicle. Cheers.

[@artboymoy]

I just hope we can get some decent all weather tires as an option when purchasing the vehicle.

[@jonathanwest6564]

To compare Aptera to another vehicle, the closest you will get is a 1980's Japanese pick-up with a camper shell. Both are two-seater with dry cargo space, that mainstream thought would not sell.

[@13ccasto]

Aptera is so cool. Sustainability is by far the #1 feature for me, and the thing that really blows my mind is that the Aptera is more efficient than some trains per passenger mile. After that it's affordability and durability, which Aptera should again win handily (when you can get charge either for free or 1-5 cents/mile), although I have some lingering questions (like the durability of their wrap). It's going to be a really tough call for me between Aptera and Telo if both of them can make it to market. I've been really appreciating the transparency and input from potential customers that Telo is having and comparing it to Aptera's relative quiet and lack of information doesn't reflect well on Aptera. I'll be grateful if both of them make it to production and I get to make a choice!

[@gregorycollins3096]

I’m a longtime and long term investor in Apple, Tesla, and Aptera. Fingers crossed for increased Aptera success.

[@Rhynri]

"There's never been a two-door vehicle with cost savings this high." I'd say the first generation Honda Insight is also a good contender. Obviously not an EV or able to power itself, but I don't think either of those were feasible at the time. Also, it was available as a 5-speed manual hybrid, a unique feature which made it a lot of fun to drive. To me the Aptera is somewhat of a spiritual successor or sibling to the Insight since they both were designed with the goal of ultimate efficiency in mind.

[@TailosiveEV]

Good cost savings but yeah having a solar charging vehicle like this has never been done. Opens up all kinds of use cases

[@dougbrittsan-yn9sl]

Got 62mpg with my Honda CRX HF! But that was before heavy safety features like ABS, airbags and side impact protection.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

I still own and drive a Gen 1 5 speed Honda Insight as my only vehicle, and have used it both commuting, shopping, and on cross country trips. It has served me well. Aptera will offer even more room, lower cost, and dramatically better acceleration.

[@garywozniak7742]

@@dougbrittsan-yn9sl that is impressive. Using the EPA's method of calculating the equivilent miles per gallon of EV's the Aptera with it 0.10kWh/mile energy usage gets 337mpg-e.

[@aussieideasman8498]

"There's never been a two-door vehicle with cost savings this high." - a good reason to think there never will be one.

[@charangohabsburg1]

You CAN'T stop talking about Aptera because if you would, I would unsubscribe from your YT channel! 😂 😉 Keep the good stuff coming!

[@makshima8545]

We are a family of 4. Our plan is to have something like a Canoo American Bulldog or Telos pick up AND an Aptera. This covers all of our needs. If all four of us need to be somewhere, take the truck. If 3 need to be somewhere, take the truck and the single person takes the Aptera.

[@brvif8363]

Drew- I'd say this is one of your best 'layout of the issues' surrounding the Aptera- and its venturing forth and noodling thoughts(pros/cons) that come up when mulling the issues in ones noggin. Quite encompassing.

[@johnpoldo8817]

Aptera is perfect for empty nesters and as a second commuter vehicle. Most families have 2 cars. Can’t wait to get mine possibly in 2024.

[@aussieideasman8498]

It can't be perfect while it doesn't exist.

[@marksparks8852]

possibly. I'm gonna buy a Powerball ticket for tomorrow night & possibly win millions.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@marksparks8852 Still won't be buying an Aptera in 2024.

[@marksparks8852]

@@aussieideasman8498 I'd say you're right. Probably a slightly better chance than my Powerball jackpot win though. It's 302 million to one.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@marksparks8852 Ginger is the winner here - so many comments by me.

[@jerrymolnar8010]

Sell it Drew!!! Agree on all points 1000%. People aren’t seeing the long range vision. I’ve never ever been more excited for a car or any other tech product in my life as Aptera. People just aren’t getting just HOW big a deal Aptera’s design is.

[@TimeLagGaming]

Most people don’t realize you can charge a Tesla with a standard outlet, you don’t even need to install anything. I commute 7 days a week, 50 miles and always trickle charge.

[@garywozniak7742]

That is great but you need to be able to plug-in where you park. A lot of people can't. And no knock on Tesla but According to Tesla Support "A 120 volt outlet will supply 2 to 3 miles of range per hour of charge. If you charge overnight and drive less than 30 to 40 miles per day, this option should meet your typical charging needs." The Aptera charges at 13 miles per hour on a 110V plug and if you can't plug-in charge at home but can park it in the sun you can get somewhere between 20 miles to 40 miles per day of solar charge.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@garywozniak7742 The Tesla figures come from real tests - the Aptera figures come from a lying snake oil salesman.

[@garywozniak7742]

​​@@aussieideasman8498they will have production intent vehicles in a few short month to validate their predicted solar charge and power usage numbers. Will will know soon enough.

[@francisdebriey3609]

I buy the Aptera as soon as it's being sold in Europe. I love it.

[@aussieideasman8498]

Don't put money down before you can get delivery.

[@francisdebriey3609]

@@aussieideasman8498 don't worry : I never buy before testing and insuring commited delivery date. I anticipate the chance of success of aptera quite low, not because of a bad product, but because how capital intense car making is. But, if they succeed worldwide, I am their next customer. My 4 kids are grown up and I am single. I commute 2x200km per week on an incredible ioniq5, I consider insane to use 2000kg (ioniq5) to move 100kg of mass (me). I will do wathever I can to lower my C02 footprint, but it has to be a "real" car, it rains too much down here in Belgium...

[@artboymoy]

My god man. What a presentation. Thank you for doing this. Your argument is so clear and persuasive that I hope more people become aware of this awesome vehicle. There are other Aptera channels but I think you're few videos on it have more of what people need to turn and "Say, what, now?" I'll be sharing this. My cousin who I saw over Christmas has taken an interest as well so the more people we can get to consider things the greater chance we can make a change and maybe even influence the EV market a bit. I'm an Accelerator investor and hope to take delivery in 2025. Maybe up my investment to get it a little sooner... :P

[@TailosiveEV]

Thanks for accelerating them! Appreciate you 🙏🏼

[@elertus]

YES… What Drew said! Let’s get Aptera going. The roadster style Aptera model is just the start! Their mission/ethos will bring the next WOW!

[@katherandefy]

Hey Drew. Luv Aptera and your content density and depth! 💯 Wonderful 🙌 Please add just a tiny speck more pauses. As a deaf person streaming this to my amazing hearing aids the solid streak of breathless speech is exhausting!!! I will listen to the other half of this soon. Actually I can just tune down the speed but just saying it is ok to breathe!! 😅 Awesome thoughtful fantastic video. I am looking forward to getting an Aptera one day!

[@tims8603]

I've often wondered if Drew ever takes a breath. I think he edits it to make the video shorter. You know, there are closed captions and you can slow the video down. I'm slightly hard of hearing so I always use CC if available.

[@katherandefy]

Yes I did that😂

[@coderkitchen]

If we ignore the USA, most of the world uses 220v architecture which would enable people to just plug into their regular outlet and charge at decent speed

[@garywozniak7742]

There are many people who rent apartments or rent orvown condominiums where the can't plug-in in charge in the U.S. just for the discussion the Aptera charges at about 59 mi/hr on an L2 (U.S. 220V).

[@ApteraOwnersClub]

Nailed it again!

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

I want this company / product to succeed so much. I feel like they will but one never knows.

[@aussieideasman8498]

One never comes.

[@Jojo-o6o6w]

@@aussieideasman8498

[@kens8903]

This would be the perfect commuter vehicle for me. I live in the Chicagoland area and would need another vehicle for the unplowed roadways four or five days out of the year but I’m already a multi Car household so I would just use the 4x4 for those days. Can’t wait for this.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Glad to see your post here! I grew up in the Rogers Park area and Palatine.

[@artboymoy]

@@n.brucenelson5920 Chicaogland peeps Unite! Originally from Palatine too!

[@chriso847]

I love the idea of the Aptera. I’m on the waiting list. My biggest concern is repairs. What if someone hits me and there’s body damage solar panel damage steering arm damage. Something that’s too big for me to repair myself. How am I going to get that sort of advanced repair work done?

[@n.brucenelson5920]

The repair techniques are well known to shops equipped for fiberglass repair and I even have boat shops in rural Iowa that can do this work. A new solar panel or steering arm can be shipped from California for installation, if need be. There will likely be independent automotive body shops that can take on such work as well. I have already confirmed shops in rural Iowa that will do this.

[@actionteamministry1777]

Agree with your points Drew, and well stated, on where society and the entire transportation field is heading. Aptera is “…skating to where the puck is heading” also know as blue water market (vs. red water market). Great job as always.

[@antonio_fosnjar]

One problem I can see is width, here in Europe there wouldn't be any problems selling these. Two door cars are really popular. I'm a huge fan of Aptera and I plan on buying it in the future, but even I'm scared of how it will maneuver in tighter places.

[@ccibinel]

Getting under 2m will hurt efficiency, need a new nose and potentially an exotic shape changing suspension. They cant funamentally reshape the body without a huge number of expensive new molds.

[@VedaSay]

That is a good point. Issue with the width is most of us want to think it will be less wider than normal cars given we are thinking of efficiency. But Aptera is little wider than most small cars. This gives it excellent stability and ride quality. Also its not wider them larger cars like pickups or SUVs hence not really out of place in that sense.

[@Bwild2]

Cybertruck w/mirrors - 95" F-150 w/mirrors - 95.7" Model X w/mirrors - 89.4" Aptera - 88" Now granted, the above have mirrors included in the width, but I don't think it will make much of a noticeable difference when driving. In America at least. But I understand the concern in Europe where wider vehicles aren't the norm.

[@antonio_fosnjar]

@Bwild2 I'm talking about the European market here. There are some pickups, but it's really rare. The most popular car in EU is Model Y with 76", but I'm from a less developed part where the most popular car is Renault Clio, which is like 68" wide. All of us collectively hate on Smart cars and WV UP, yet we still drive them since they are so practical. It'll still sell well, but they should definitely make a slightly smaller and city driving oriented model in the future.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@Bwild2 All too wide.

[@CihanekPhotography]

So, I know the Atera is very aerodynamic moving forward. How is it from the side, or the back? Just curious how it handles strong crosswind?. Since it’s so light, I was wondering if it will get blown all over the road in a windstorm

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Aptera has very little flat surface for the wind to push against. I own a light weight Gen 1 Hionda Insight and even that is fairly stable on the freeway at 80mph in 50 mph sidewinds out West. Aptera is designed with some downforce as well. It will be really good.

[@glennmerriman8382]

I'm 54 now. I can remember watching a television show when I was about 10, talking about the best aerodynamic shape being a water drop, and how manufacturers could design vehicles to be much more efficient than what were currently being made. I tried to pencil a car based on this idea. The Aptera brings into reality my childhood drawing, so I really hope it makes it to production. I hope one day I can afford to own one.

[@mrpeegeepee2682]

I would love to see you get into politics but you have toooo much common sense for that.....I was hooked on Aptera after I looked at the mechanical make-up of the car....No transmission, no CV joints, no radiator, no drive lines all make this auto an extremely GOOD IDEA!!!! When it makes this much sense, common sense people like you will buy in....Thanks for the great reasoning behind this video....BRAVO!!!

[@aussieideasman8498]

No Aptera. Prototypes don't count. As for them - no getting up hills; no driving on flat surfaces if the day is warm.

[@MikeJ532]

I think Aptera will become the highest produced EV.. With the flexibility it has as a companies fleet Vehicle,, we will see them every where..

[@ajkandy]

In addition to this being a great affordable EV for commuters, I can see this becoming very popular as a carshare fleet vehicle. For people that only occasionally need a car for short trips / errands and don’t need a 4-seater, these would be very cost-effective to own and operate, and could be parked anywhere outside to solar recharge.

[@MultisportOfficial]

Good point. I used to be a courier for a medical lab. The company bought a fleet of Hondas for us, because they were small, good on gas, and could get in and out of tight spaces. I could see businesses like that using Apteras for exactly these reasons. Local couriers put up to 200 miles a day on their vehicles, and the Aptera gets twice that on a charge. Think about it: Vehicles charging overnight at the office. Couriers clock in and do their routes without ever stopping for gas. Just about any type of small-item delivery service could benefit from this.

[@boywonder5179]

Trust me, it's gonna sell like hotcakes.

[@mikegrok]

I wish it were otherwise, but I live in Mobile Alabama which has one bus per bus route which drives continuously, and they only have east west routes, no north south routes. The east west routes after an hour eventually all end up at down town, and meet. But if you start at the west end of town it can take three and a half hours to go one mile north using public transit. They can't invest in more than 10 busses city wide because the city only has a population of 400,000. Yeah, red state problems.

[@lucianbakerii4047]

The oil companies and car companies stacked land use planning in the Western US about 100 years ago. They pulled up the rails for the street cars. Put residential housing in one place, put production business somewhere else, and shopping somewhere else yet. The design required cars and gas.

[@speedturtle_andre]

Thanks Drew, for your thoughts! I am fully with you, and as a German voice in Aptera sphere I claim that view and suggestions also for Europe. Thats why my Aptera phrase here is "High Efficiency for Europe". In Europe you will get tortured when arguing against public transportation, but anybody agree that figuratively putting rails to any imaginable destination also makes not much sense and we better let us drove in autonomous EVs! In 15 years also in flying cars, and thus with high availability in dense urban areas not everybody wants to own a car but will be enabled to rent or get shared timely. The general city problems would been solved here! Why I am making words? I see you extrapolate coming future tec right! Go forward and thanks for sharing!

[@DOGbackwardz]

It's not that hard to transition away from fossil fuels in industrial settings. Nuclear energy. Even then, if you scheduled the work day around the sun and increased the amount of factories to have the same output as multi-shift factories you could stabilize production in an environmentally friendly way.

[@williamread8186]

Id have to say Politics aside I feel the EVs are the future and that Tesla are the best ones on the market currently but until Aptera came up with this I never felt strongly compelled to buy one. But Aptera has sold me preorder accelerator and enthusiast.

[@PhoticsTV]

I don't know how it's going to work out for Aptera, but I saw two related videos that are interesting… one was from the Electric Viking (Sam Evans) about predictions from Tony Seba. People might not even own cars because of autonomous driving. What if you simply can't own your own vehicle because insurance rates are too high? 🙀 But in general, if electric batteries are truly going to win out over gas vehicles, then wouldn't that push battery innovation even further? Walmart is selling a 1080p projector for $29. Years ago, that would have been a joke on Jetsons. So, why not the same for battery tech? Why does the battery have to be the most expensive part? Although, there's another video by Cash Jordan, about how NYC is lagging with electric cars. It's mainly because charging is a problem. It reenforces the argument in this video. The Aptera seems like a strong match for NYC. But, the main problem I see with the Aptera is cost. The Aptera is not cheap, especially if you want it anytime soon. The first 2000 are part of the accelerate program. And even not factoring that, the launch edition is over $33,000. That's a lot for an autocycle.

[@TailosiveEV]

Governments are showing very little progress towards allowing RoboTaxis. They're quite limited in capability still

[@tims8603]

There is a lot of research into new battery technology. There are some that are promising but they always seem to be a few years away. I think it will happen. It's just a matter of time.

[@garywozniak7742]

It is an autocyle but it is a very stable design that was designed to meet all automotive safety requirements (crash testing will be performed). The two seats are a limitation but the vehicle is nearly 15' long and has 7' of room behind the seats and 32.5 cubic feet of storage. Also with a 400 mile range other EV manufacturers options are not cheap. I just went on to Tesla's website and for giggles I started an order for a 2024 Model 3 long range. The long range has a range of 333 miles. The only non standard option selection I made as the options came up was to select blue for the color. It quoted me $46,990. Tesla loses the Tax credit on the Model 3 longe range on Jan 1st. There was one similar silver one available for $41,390. I won't try and claim that it is an apples to apples comparison but at ~35k the 400 mile Aptera LE has impressive range. Weigh in a lower TCO and a bit of decoupling from having to charge on the grid over its life and the price is reasonable. Aptera base model with a 250 mile battery is ~$26k I did the same exercise for the standard Model 3 rear-wheel drive 272 mile range. No options. It quoted me $38,990.

[@PhoticsTV]

@@garywozniak7742 The $7500 tax credit is an interesting factor. Without the tax credit, the Model 3 doesn't seem as affordable or as fun as an Aptera. But, there is (was?) the Chevy Bolt, which is ridiculous. A friend of mine got one for around $18,000 after all the discounts. As for safety, I still don't know how to exit the vehicle quickly if the Aptera flips over. It looks a little difficult entering and exiting the vehicle under normal circumstances. I like the Aptera. There are so many things to like about the Aptera, but I live in a cold, snowy area, with lots AND LOTS of pickup trucks on the road. There are wild animals too. What happens if an Aptera hits a deer or wild turkey? Also, it would be a full time job just explaining what it is I'm driving to the locals. 😄

[@garywozniak7742]

​@@PhoticsTV I have some of the same concerns. In my youth I got into the front passenger seat of a friend's Camaro for what was supposed to be a quick drive. 4 minutes later we went off the road at 70mph. I had to be extricated from the car. I am not a fan of no external mechanical door handles and I'm guessing that if on it's roof breaking the front windshield and exiting there might be the only egress. I'd keep a windshield hammer or centerpunch handy. On hitting a deer. The front end has a large crumple zone and it does have a very strong passenger cell and front airbags. They are planning to test it against the FMVSS Series 200 crash test standard. I am guess that those results will reveal positive results.

[@1978rayking]

If we have to pay to go anywhere, I personally like a self owned vehicle

[@TheTexasDuke]

Exactly why don’t we have solar panels on EV’s or heat loving panels … Some Apartments have charging stations. Haha I never pedal my ebike or my Voromotors Road runner pro crotch rocket 🚀

[@skyearthocean5815]

I think this is going to be an amazing vehicle! I’m a Tesla owner, but I’ve got a reservation for an Aptera and can’t wait to drive it!

[@robertackerlind2]

Many apartment dwellers have no plugs anywhere near where they park even if they had a long extension cord it would not reach. Ultra light with solar on hood and roof of car is attractive. Peddles would be awesome too for drivers and passengers to assist.

[@aussieideasman8498]

Peddle is what Chris Anthony does. Pedals are those things on bicycles.

[@amosbatto3051]

Pedaling is effective when moving a vehicle that weighs less than 200 lbs. When moving an 1800 pounds (820 kg) vehicle like the Aptera, I doubt that pedaling is very effective, although it would be good for people's health.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@amosbatto3051 Sound logic, but you aren't buying into what the snake oil claims. If you believe those lying CEOs, the low rolling resitance tyres ( 'y' in Aus) and the aerodynamic shape have wiped away those 1,800 down to about 20. Haven't they said you use more enegry on a bicycle? And hasn't Chris sat in a chair and pushed a silly trike to show how little effort it takes? Why aren't you buying into this? At least if you get hot pedalling (2 l's in Aus) you are less likely to feel the heat coming up through the seat. There's always some silver lining.

[@kurtsigmund6980]

This is a game changer.

[@austinftwXD]

the perfect spiritual successor to my old hypermile modified 60mpg del sol

[@tims8603]

Are you that guy that Steve from Aptera Owner's Club interviewed? If so, kudos to you.

[@Tivis7]

1:35 These are very common misunderstandings here in the U.S. that's been perpetuated by car companies. We already have the infrastructure in place to facilitate a lot of the public transportation we need. It's just not acted upon due to politicians being paid off. However, as you mentioned, overall, thoughts are now shifting towards a more thoughtful approach concerning mass transit. Likewise, with property, given that homes are treated as commodities and not essentials, it's not surprising that prices are soaring. Acts that prioritize the construction of specific infrastructure and alike can go through quickly. Just look at the Federal Highway Act. (And look at just how fast Tik Tok appears to be being banned). However, like mentioned before, there's a lot of money being thrown around to prevent this.

[@howdy3423]

Well I’ll find out in a year or two. The nice thing with gas is once you pay to fill up it can sit for months or even years if treated. For EV in winter you’ll have to pay to charge and continuously to maintain pack temps as for long as it sits without a garage but I believe the batteries are only rated to -20°. Either way it’ll have to stay plugged in and draw power to try to maintain battery temps, which will add to the cost on top of the ~doubling (guessing) the cost of Wh per mile.

[@garywozniak7742]

With the full solar package, even in in the winter, assuming you are not in the far north, the 700 watts of solar produce a good amount of charge that might offset any parasitic charge loss you might occur leave it parked. However if it can maintain the battery at a safe temperature in the winter while parked without plugging is a good question. It not yiu would have to plug-in charge as need to assist. That could by driving to a public charger. Or plugging in into even a 110V outlet

[@JulesInfinite888]

Nice one. this is a great travel vehicle rv ♾

[@georgelewis8831]

Áptera will use the Tesla charging network or as a prepper you can live in the boondocks and charge with the sun!

[@kevtheobald]

I would like to see Aptera have success just because we need to expand what the public will accept as a vehicle. I am sure during the first few years, people will just think of them as these odd jelly bean things driving around their community. As they become more common, people will be less stunned by them. Just like I think in five years, the Cybertruck will be less jarring to see. Both Cybertruck and Aptera are pushing new tech and the design language many see. Solar on EVs is the holy Grail for the segment. If there panels are reliable and durable, I believe many others will push to add this feature. I know there is a weight and cost versus benefit equation that has to make sense, but Aptera might be the ones who make that equation work. If they want to go beyond a second car or commuter car category, stretching it out a little more to put in a small backseat is needed. I could families with kids buying it if the backseat was there and easily accessible. Maybe extend the length of the door so when it opens, access to the backseat is there. I am sure once Aptera gets there first wave of vehicles out, they can figure out a four seater option. I do think their production hell will be longer than many are hoping for, but at least they are moving from vaporware to an actual product consumers can own.n

[@tims8603]

The solar panels on Aptera are very thin and light. They shot hail at them with high force and they were undamaged. They recently said that they will be glass covered and that the glass is even lighter than polycarbonate.

[@aussieideasman8498]

Don't insult the jelly bean. More like a crayfish.

[@jamesbecker4326]

the Aptera will be amazing, if/when they get it out on the road. I have been watching it for years and there are none to buy. Arcimoto FUV looked very promising, but now it seems to be almost dead and buried. sad

[@GoClimbARockEh]

I like Arcimoto, but they were never car replacements, like the Aptera. I test drove one once, and it's basically a souped-up motor scooter. I would never take one onto a freeway. Still, they'd be fun little around-town vehicles

[@dvader3263]

If you charge an EV near your home at off peak rates in the morning or late evening, the cost per kWh is about 15 cents with one popular company. Still much cheaper than running on gasoline. Afternoon rates are highest.

[@garywozniak7742]

At a public charger? Where?

[@TailosiveEV]

Here it’s still 25¢ per kWh off peak. Will likely go up overtime

[@artboymoy]

@@TailosiveEV That's insane! I think mine is 8 cents off peak in WI.

[@MarkSmith-pe4rd]

I like this vehicle for the efficiency that is incorporated into the design. I’d like to know if Aptera has done any cold climate/ winter weather testing . I wonder how it handles in snow or road conditions that are worse than sunny San Diego.

[@VedaSay]

There are multiple videos from the Europe tour where the vehicle was in snow environment. Performed pretty well. Remember there have been many updates to the vehicle since and what comes in production will be even better. And also to remember, Apter is now getting into actual testing and validation phase of the complete vehicle on production design and off the production line equipments.

[@ccibinel]

Elaphe winter tested their motors. Traction control + AWD is pretty damn good for ice. Snow buildup shouldn't be an issue due to waste heat. In under 7 inches of light snow or 5 inches of east coast snow I suspect Aptera will be fine. If a road has already been tracked then the clearance should be fine and ice in the tracks will be a non-issue due to the center tire. If an average FWD car can handle it then Aptera should easily; if you need snow chains on an SUV then obviously Aptera is not the right vehicle for the conditions.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@ccibinel It's not the motors - it's the skin cooling. Have you seen their Mickey Mouse testing? Has an independent tester got near it?

[@amosbatto3051]

@@aussieideasman8498 , There have been about half a dozen KZbinrs who have driven the Aptera Gamma and published their opinions, but real testing won't begin until Aptera starts producing the Production Intent (Delta) vehicles, so it is too early to form an opinion about how Aptera will perform in adverse conditions.

[@stevesmith9973]

Drew pleas KEEP talking about Aptera! I love your videos on them!

[@brianjohnson2650]

That Alaska statement brings up the question of how Aptera batteries will do in below freezing climate? The same as a Tesla does in cold weather?

[@garywozniak7742]

I guess real world validation of their production intent vehicle has to be done under those conditions but Aptera does have a liquid cooled/heated battery pack.. It will be able to precondition the battery in cold temps.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

They have tested down to -40. There will likely be further info when the PI validation tests are finished. Expect lower performance in cold weather, but the first model probably has reserve for most applications at 400 mile EPA conditions.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@n.brucenelson5920 Take notice when somebody else tests them.

[@stancios5836]

Since Aptera has very little frontal area, will radar be able to detect the car?

[@fw1421]

The Aptera will be my next vehicle,if they ever go into full production.

[@Californiagent]

Nice vid dude I pre ordered an aptera 🎉🎉I'm excited for the future dude 🌏🌞🌞

[@TailosiveEV]

Hope you get it soon!

[@Californiagent]

@@TailosiveEV thanks 😊

[@drago7635]

Great Breakdown Aptera is arguably the most important automotive project in the world right now, we need it to be a success, the sustainability of the planet is too priority and anything we can do do offset the cost and energy consumption to achieve it is very important.

[@aussieideasman8498]

The planet has bigger fish to fry; get real.

[@drago7635]

Guess tackling C02 emissions is small fish now... 🤷🏻@@aussieideasman8498

[@amosbatto3051]

Aptera will certainly help to lower the carbon footprint of transportation, althought far more important is the transistion to EVs and getting the grid to 100% low-carbon electricity, and both of those things are likely to happen at a faster pace than the adoption of Aptera-style cars.

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@amosbatto3051 At the moment, Aptera is lowering the size of peoples' wallets. After you see the silly trikes rolling off a production line, you can see what they do to the carbon footprint. Cross bridges that are there.

[@Mehffort]

Can’t wait to see this in production, or if it’ll beat Tesla’s low cost vehicle to the market

[@samueltucker8473]

There is s limmit to how many vehicles can be charged. The heavy vehicles with massive batteries are a huge load to the grid. While a light vehicle that requires less battery just makes its own charge much of the time and uses less power when it is charged from the grid.

[@samueltucker8473]

There is definitely a need for heavy vehicles like boats, trains and trucks. And there is also a need for light vehicles that can charge themselves and others with sunshine. Yes the gas vehicles are running off of sunshine from thousands of years ago. . . It's true there is a place for both hybrids that can power a small factory or a large house. There are a few good ones out there. The need for these things cannot be 'regulated' out of existence. No one wants their drinking water contaminated by fracking, oil spills and so on. If it cannot be done without destroying the health of yourself and others maybe you shouldn't be doing it.

[@DemaGeek]

Completely agree Drew, thank you!

[@garywozniak7742]

Great video Drew. I agree completely.Thank you

[@jackseay]

You just said all the things I’ve been thinking since I first learned about the Aptera.

[@tonydeveyra4611]

I definitely think that the aptera is the ideal robotaxi design and it wouldnt surprise me in the least if the model 2 has many design ques taken from aptera.

[@NeilBlanchard]

We had a very good public transportation system - and then Standard Oil and GM etc paid politicians to dismantle the streetcar systems that so many cities and towns had.

[@timothymoroney3561]

Hey Dru , I think you left out another demographic group . . . boomers who are older, empty nesters looking at retirement costs .

[@GlennGraham-lx1qs]

Will there be towable possibilities?

[@audio_tron]

Aptera is going to be a winner. A four door would cater to many more drivers too. Hydrogen, as challenged as the efficiency and economics are, will have a place somewhere in the market ultimately because charging just won’t be convenient for so many. If they can get hydrogen to their stated $1/kg goal by 2030, that would disrupt things; it’s $27-37/kg now…ha. Hard to beat stopping into a gas station for a few minutes. H2 nails that experience. Battery EV charging pricing, reliability and etiquette have lots of challenges too. Even in apartment buildings with numerous chargers. Like Aptera, I think dual fuel cars are the way to go for many drivers.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

I have experienced hydrogen cars in California. They will be non starters for personal transportation although there may be a role in mass transit. ( I think it unlikely however, especially with the development of better flow batteries)

[@ok-alarm]

have you seen edison motors?

[@michaelanders6161]

I share the excitement. Reservation holder for the past 3 years and counting. I have 2 more years of payments on my current ev before I am financially ready to buy the aptera, so timing for my base model aptera might work out perfectly. 🤞

[@a5-30-31cts]

If these 4-5 ton $80,000-$180,000 EVs proliferate, in a few years, the price of grid electricity will skyrocket. In just a few years these monstrosities will be too expensive and impractical to operate. As their owners contemplate how to get rid of their unsaleable junk, every few minutes they'll look up to see an Aptera whoosh by...

[@amosbatto3051]

I have no doubt that the two-seat Aptera will be a market success, but I don't think Aptera is going to truly transform the automotive industry until it releases the planned 4 seat version, because there are a lot of people who may only need two seats, but they think about all the times they need to carry extra passengers or a larger load. I think a longer Aptera with a back bench seat that can fold down would be a huge seller and will force the auto industry to start copying the Aptera. Sadly, it looks like it is going to be a slow process to get there, because venture capitalists aren't seeing the future, but eventually big money will flow into Aptera and it will be able to reach the kind of scale that Tesla is now achieving. In 10 years, I also think that the auto industry as a whole will be adopting a lot of the design aspects of the Aptera. Just like today the auto industry is moving towards large casting with aluminum alloys (i.e. gigacasting), I foresee widespread adoption of CF-SMC monocoque bodies in the future. Although carbon fiber is expensive (and energy intensive to create), CF-SMC panels can be manufactured very fast and eliminate so much complexity in auto fabrication, that I think many companies are going to adopt them, and they give EVs so much greater range due to their light weight, that I think many car designers are going to start using the material, even if they don't adapt Aptera's dolphin-like shape. I foresee a huge market for light-weight sedans and crossovers made of CF-SMC. With higher efficiency solar on the way that combines monocrystalline and perovskite in the same cell, I think that solar on vehicles is also going to take off in the future, because it makes a lot of sense with light-weight CF-SMC bodies which aren't damaged by exposure to an outdoor environment (sun, rain, salt, humidity, etc) like a standard steel body with paint. With the arrival of sensors, microprocessors, cheap memory, cellular internet and GPS, cars can now be parked outside in the sun to charge with much less fear of theft, because they can provide remote monitoring and tracking to deter car theives. What I'm not sure is whether the modularity and fixability of the Aptera will catch on, or the dolphin-shape and falcon-wing doors. I'm pretty sure that greater aerodynamics will be a trend, but I'm not sure if other automakers are going to copy the radical shape of the Aptera. However, I would like to see a new small-and-light category of car emerge that challenges the trend toward ever larger and more powerful vehicles. The trend toward gigantic SUVs, double-cab pickups and higher-riding crossovers has to stop. Not only are they extremely wasteful of resources and energy and dangerous for pedestrians, but they actually make it harder to get to net-zero emissions by 2050, which is the most important thing for the long-term survival of the human species.

[@lwbaum1]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but when you said that efficiency approaches 100 Watt-hours per mile, I thought that there must be a simpler way to measure efficiency! Replacing Watt and Joule with their definitions and doing a bit of math: 100 W-hr/mile =60 watt-hours/km =60 J-hours/sec/km =60 J 3600/km =220 J 1000/km =220 J/m =220 N-m/m =220 N There! A Newton seems much simpler than a Watt hour per mile, and you can even eat it if it's the right kind of Newton.

[@artboymoy]

I watch Out of Spec reviews and all the kilowatt hour talk makes my brain shut down.

[@garywozniak7742]

Using wH/mile has become a standard method of expressing an EV's efficiency. It is also used when calculating the equivilent miles per gallon of an EV. The EPA uses the amount of energy contained in one gallon of gasoline, 33.7kWh, and devides the kWh/mile that the EV uses into it. For the Aptera 33.7kWh ÷ 0.10kWh/mile = 337mpg-e.

[@car_tar3882]

IMO the only vehicles for sale to average consumers should be small aero 2 seaters sedans and minivans

[@freddybell8328]

Aptera's biggest competior will be be the robotaxi and I dont think it will have a chance against it unless it becomes one itself.

[@GoClimbARockEh]

robotaxis might work for some people, but I regularly leave things in my car that I use on a regular basis. I can't imagine having to schlepp all my sports gear into a robotaxi on a daily basis.

[@TailosiveEV]

Especially since there’s gonna be 1 million RoboTaxis by 2020

[@GoClimbARockEh]

🤣@@TailosiveEV

[@aussieideasman8498]

@@TailosiveEV So you're a realist - count how many Aptera's there are?

[@paulvansteenberghe4644]

In Maine right now it’s quite expensive to charge at home, 30 cents per kilowatt-hour. Makes my plug-in hybrid cost about the same to use electric as to use gasoline. This with the initial high cost, range anxiety and crappy charging infrastructure associated with electric cars, is not encouraging Mainers to go electric.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

The high efficiency of the Aptera - 2.5 times the range of a Tesla model 3 under the same conditions makes it even more compelling for you.

[@artboymoy]

Can you set up to charge off peak?

[@garywozniak7742]

​@@artboymoygood question. I would hope so. Maybe Aptera will release som details on the charging options.

[@paulvansteenberghe4644]

No "off-peak" rates where I am in Maine, but I will be installing a 23KW solar array for home and shop use later this year.@@artboymoy

[@kevinmurimi2176]

Imagine upgrading it to solid state batteries in 5 years gets me giddy😊

[@mnhsty]

Yes, but will they ever start production, and what will be the price?

[@TailosiveEV]

Launch edition is about $35k

[@timsmith6815]

@@TailosiveEVthe price is not set. 35K is not the retail price, we don’t know yet.

[@TrebleSketch]

Do agree that we do need BOTH EVs and Public Transit (electrify everything, trains/buses/freight too!) Very rare to have someone who have a nuanced take regarding EVs :D Also keen to see more PT grow out some more in the east, since it is more densely more populated out that way!

[@TailosiveEV]

I’d love it! But don’t count on it. Government isn’t good at executing things

[@VedaSay]

Public transit to needs answer how the city/state collect taxes. Once that is answered they will be favorite baby for the govt. For now its the "ugly duckling" these govt just want to write fables about and keep reading it to you every year. Force govt to support the poor who are supporting the economy. Public transport with affordable housing outside cities will be the only answer.

[@dougandersen645]

Amtrak anyone? Leave the government out of it.

[@TrebleSketch]

@@TailosiveEV Yeah, problem down under here. Tho there are some rare instances where state governments pulled ahead with Victoria's Level Crossing Removal Project, but yeah, surely pretty rare.

[@elizbeth8659]

Well thought out video. I’m glad you included home ownership and how expensive it has become. Lets just say 90% of vehicles has 1 person. Being part of that 90% why should I downsize? Because it is more efficient? I don’t see that as strong enough argument. Sorry, 2 seater is too much of a compromise not it being a 3 wheeler. I agree with one of your older comments. I see this as a commuter vehicle only. Still need to own a normal 4 door vehicle. That being said? Would Randy trade in one of his Tesla’s for this? Why or why not?

[@TailosiveEV]

Randy has said he doesn’t need another EV. He’s happy with the 2 he has now.

[@aussieideasman8498]

Let's just not say?

[@jpb7147]

Just watched Blade Runner 2049 again and realized the car design is very reminiscent of Aptera...

[@artboymoy]

The Aptera is really a concept car that actually looks like it when it will be released! It's the future!