2025 Toyota Prado Altitude Review | We broke the Toyota LandCruiser Prado 250 Series…

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

Here from John Cadogan's vid re this incident...

[@lot6129]

Does not know the difference between Mango and peaches

[@Rabsallawah]

@@lot6129But he does know how to structure a sentence correctly. 😂

[@Brendan3195]

@@lot6129congratulations on completely missing the point

[@boobtubereborn]

ha. me too. directly. john enpointe as usual. 🤣

[@leosheppard8517]

ME to!

[@smartalec65]

You can see why the y62 Patrol is so popular, relatively simple N/A big V8. The complexity in some of these newer vehicles doesn't bode well for long term reliability. I wouldn't want to get stranded in a remote area in one of these

[@PP-bm7zp]

@@smartalec65 all good and well, but your v8 petrol is dead due to euro emissions so it is not even worth mentioning

[@smartalec65]

@PP-bm7zp not sure how you figure that, it will remain on sale for at least another year. You do realise that the new emissions laws don't ban any vehicles. The laws apply to the overall fleet of vehicles sold by the manufacturer, not individual vehicles

[@PP-bm7zp]

@@smartalec65 correct, for another year, but after that you won’t be able to buy a new one and we are talking about new cars here

[@smartalec65]

@@PP-bm7zp exactly, we are talking about new cars, you will still be able to buy new V8 Patrols for at least another year, so why do you think that is not worth mentioning?

[@justinbrown2093]

My mechanic says dont buy a v8 Nissan,a customer of his has one and its a Pos

[@TEC_Stuff]

Toyota’s quality has gone down the toilet. I say this as the current owner of 5 Toyota vehicles here in the U.S.A (1989, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2014 Vehicles). Vehicles are overpriced, engine reliability is no longer solid, and they are full of cheap plastic parts. I want the quality of mid-2000’s Toyota back!!!

[@alphaomega5721]

Finally. A Toyota with Range Rover envy.....

[@tonyhadenough2574]

Thats why in the ads say " Oh what a feeling " And the dog says " bugger " 😂

[@michaelsmith9866]

Water in the air box stops it charging? Literally WTF mate. You are being gaslit by Toyota implying it’s something you did rather than admitting it’s an overpriced under developed POS

[@carsales]

Quite possibly. And if we hear more incidence of this sort of problem perhaps your theory will be proved correct.

[@PederHalvorsen]

Indeed

[@guidekiller]

@@carsaleshonestly really poor design then. Can’t be relied on extreme off road conditions

[@carsales]

@@guidekiller We've had more talks with Toyota and they've said the vehicle has been repaired but we'll get a full report (hopefully) in early January. Christmas break etc.

[@JohnSmith-pl2bk]

@@carsales They will have to consult with HQ Japan as to the "story" they will come up with to "cover" this fault..... Surely no detritus was left in the airbox from the manufacturing process...?????

[@domaust7605]

If this happened to any other car brand, all the comments would be saying, that's because it's not a Toyota 😂

[@hermanssewagudd5122]

Fact remains toyota is the most reliable vehicle in the world, like it or not

[@Dvladvocate]

Toyota used to be, not anymore

[@markfarr2514]

You’re not wrong.

[@mogotsi_]

A broken Toyota is more reliable than anything a colonizer ever built.

[@toby4235]

@@mogotsi_also more reliable than anything the colonised built lol

[@trevorgale1176]

Oh what a feeling seeing your brand new 100k Toorak Tractor flat bedded.

[@rondg2]

the more systems and subsystems you got, the greater the possibility of failure. that's why i love my jimny, the transfer case is operated with an old school mechanical lever. even the a/c vents are cable actuated. and no hybrid!

[@yaffyjack9055]

The raised cargo floor is simply for the 48v battery system. Here in GCC, we get the same 2.8 engine without the 48v system with 7 seats and flush cargo floor.

[@samartz]

Wheres GCC? Thanks

[@yaffyjack9055]

@samartz GCC Region: Saudi , UAE , Qatar, Kuwait, Oman and Bahrain

[@tempestv8]

Also in the UK - no v-active.

[@ajstevens1652]

That sounds way better. Wish we could ditch the hybrid at least as an option.

[@micknkazslater5977]

Cant believe Toyota put that battery assist in it.....if you had a choice between an old banged up troopy and this Prado, which one would you take to Cape York.....

[@marklaurendet1861]

All I can say as a Prado owner is what a disapointment The air filters have along history of problems, just google dusting. The air filer box seem to buckle and dust gets gets in above the air filter, maybe water as well now. It will be fine as long as you stay on the tar. Hate to be negative but so much could have been better with not much effort, especially the rear and fuel capacity for towing. dont see why increase towing capacity, but cant tow as far and fuel consumption will increase if you tow 3.5 ton

[@carsales]

Fair points you make. And yes, the dusting issue has been well documented: www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/toyota-hilux-fix-at-least-a-year-away-113995/ Back in 2019 we reported, "The issue, identified in a motoring.com.au comparison test, is caused by a dust leak past the air filter that cuts the 1GD-FTV 2.8-litre turbo-diesel engine’s power and switches off safety features including stability and traction control." The issue is the mass-flow sensor (MAFS) in the 1GD-FTV, but it was eventually addresses (although in an odd way): www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/exclusive-toyota-hilux-dusting-problem-addressed-125919/

[@bushmagpie3312]

Why did Toyota reduce the payload? Once you get 2 x 100kg mum & dad, 2x 40kg kids, bulbar 60kg and 2600kg caravan (250kg ball) your over the GVM of vehicle? Great design, what engineer did maths on that?

[@gavinlascelles1748]

@@bushmagpie3312 that's a big momma!

[@-PORK-CHOP-]

@@bushmagpie3312 Geez, I dont know any mum that weight's 100Kg, must be one big Mumma

[@Marks.Reviews]

⁠@@carsales, from what l read in your article, they implemented a cheaper band aid solution, than fixing the root cause. Dust getting into the combustion chambers long term is not good for the engine’s longevity and it’s DPF. Appears the engineer of this air box either wasn’t told of the issue or what material the engineer was told to use to construct the air box isn’t appropriate or both.

[@tempestv8]

Why are there no gas struts for the bonnet? The bonnet rod is rather a step backwards for a $100K vehicle.

[@charlesrogers8420]

Toyota innovated itself out of reliability 😂

[@intrusivethought]

Never buy the first version of anything.

[@ronaldov09]

Yep...but then you're not the cool kid on the block with the new car!

[@biral1000]

Yes...I bought first batch of Mitsubishi I had battery issue, infotainment replaced, and more. So for and another car I waiting for face lift of car I have shortlisted

[@mohamedabdullahi1474]

I agree, I bought the new Honda HR-V with the new facelift in 2022, after two months I had battery issue that need to be replaced. fortunately it was under warranty so Honda fixed it for free. Honda then fixed the battery issue for the new 2023 and 2024 patch.

[@sad_clown]

Very, very true. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens with the BYD shark early adopters 😂

[@boxy4738]

We bought a 2009 Prado 150. 1st of new model. 475,000 of reliable motoring. Must have got one built on a Wednesday not a Monday or Friday.

[@John-td9cp]

im not getting a car with adblue. but im poor anyway so this doesn't matter.

[@kennethprocak5176]

Only us old fellas remember reliable Toyotas, anything before 2000. Toyota went through a total change after the Asian financial collapse.

[@ferdinandvries4032]

Yep mid 90s was the best effort. With enough electrics to make it nice but not enough to make them unreliable

[@chris4470]

Sure, the 1HZ was so reliable that Toyota (allegedly) were quietly replacing your big ends every 100k. The reason their diesels lasted so long is they don't produce any power.

[@tengkuwong9163]

i like aussie car forum very much. they are always honest n sincere in their car review. no hiding no hanky panky sweet talk. very down to earth illustration n simple layman english spoken so everyone can understand n learn something. cheers mike.

[@carsales]

Thanks for the nice words mate, means a lot to the entire team - presenter, shooters, video editors.

[@QueenslandTrainVideos]

For a 100 k plus car, its a joke.

[@afanasieguler7833]

it isn't a 100k+ car, that's the GX

[@adamg6199]

@@afanasieguler7833 101K on the road for this model they detailed in video.

[@Pipeburn]

@@afanasieguler7833 $93k is close enough.

[@QueenslandTrainVideos]

@@afanasieguler7833 GX is the base model, check out 3:12 the prices are there, this Altitude model on road is 100k+

[@davidchen2835]

@@afanasieguler7833check the price it is 100k+😂 GX550 is from 120k+

[@mini_steve]

If you were a paying customer who spent your own money on it, Toyota would have told you it's not covered under warranty, and it would be a $20,000 repair not including labour.

[@auscambaiting]

This is true

[@paulhicks3595]

On a similar filming job in the outback about 20 years ago we took a Holden Adventurer, which was just a slightly raised station wagon with added AWD , through everything you did to the Prado- including deeper water, and it did fine. BTW, most of your weekend heroes in their 100k , high tech , 4WD monsters aren’t doing anything that hadn’t been done in the bush in VW Beetles 65 years ago.

[@bofty]

Six month servicing is insane

[@mozartheart2958]

You are the first to find something like that, good job. Subscribed!

[@carsales]

Many thanks.

[@kennethprocak5176]

A air cleaner for the engine, effected the a the main electrical system? BS.

[@carsales]

We're hoping to hear back from Toyota soon to get to the bottom of the fault.

[@davidevans2585]

The ones I’ve looked at in dealers yards seem full of cheap plastic and cost cutting. Very tinny.

[@marklaurendet1861]

I agree, we have a 150 Prado and it has a lot of plastic but this is on another plastic level. This is not meant for touring to me, 4WD options for street cred only.

[@gilmo-frog]

Can't fit a pram with third row up and hard rear seats not a car if you plan for your family and keep it for 6 or more years .

[@Woah_Look]

​@@marklaurendet1861 I have the same generation LC Prado 150. It definitely has a lot of plastic in the interior but feels very robust and solid compared to other cars, including this new gen LC Prado 250.

[@michaelconnors5339]

Owning a 150 and looking at these, everything feels tacky and cheap, open the bonnet and the front garnish feels like it's ready to fall off, no gas struts to keep it up, door handle plastic seems same cheap tacky plastic and god only knows what's going on in the back cargo area, flimsy plastic rubbish and this is from a Toyota fan boy, I could keep going on!

[@PederHalvorsen]

Why and who would order in advance.?

[@Chris-p2s1c]

Well done! Oh what a Feeling alright, that feeling as your heart sinks when you realised it's goosed!

[@mrtonysantos]

petrol/electric hybrid too expensive? this hilux engined prado is already 100k ffs... imagine rolling around in a 100k 4x4 knowing you're in the budget engined model... hock tooey!

[@IsaacLoven]

This guy sets a new world standard for his dialog and detailed technical content, with a flair for entertaining language. Not sure if he has a team of writters to support his great performance. Most enjoyable. Thanks!

[@Abu7929]

Yeah I though so too

[@PederHalvorsen]

Ch9king on ya tongue matey ?

[@carsales]

Thanks for the plaudit. All Feann's work.

[@johnfrancisvillamor9882]

My money is on that Jimny.

[@axio3d143]

Air intake is in the guard, if you full send into a puddle like that youre going to suck up moisture. There is a reason to run snorkels and its not just for river crossings

[@carsales]

Yeah true. We do very similar mid-speed water crossings (after slower speeds ones, which you can see in the vid) with all 4WDs we test and this is the first time we've ever had an electrical glitch.

[@PP-bm7zp]

@@carsales absolutely love my 150 therefore was so keen on the 250 being a “success” , it’s not looking good is it fellas 😔

[@Carrotsalesman]

Yeah mate a devils advocates' comfort zone - their home if you will - is on the internet. That's why we have you saying the reason a new $100k+ purpose built off-roader can't take a splash, whereas all other cars previously could, is because blah blah blah I'm the devils advocate and I live on the internet. I'm so glad that you're all safely ignored mate.

[@gf8650]

35:21 The LC 250 being flatbedded away passing an old Land Rover Freelander in the carpark.

[@tonylane8873]

The Freelander's been there for 6 months...

[@bighairycat]

Looks like Toyota didn't do a clay model to design it, it looks like they made it out of Lego.

[@ronaldov09]

A nice and capable car for around 80K, not paying 100K for one that's for sure!

[@seanfrazer4589]

Tens of thousands will

[@jeffreyfitch1006]

I'm in the U.S. & you are correct. I have 0 intentions of off-roading the new Landcruiser when I can get one. Will literally be Sunday driver for me.

[@carsales]

You are probably in the majority, not the minority in this respect.

[@DJTrumpMAGA]

What the prado can do my Hilux can do and it’s 30k cheaper with the same engine.

[@COH-dt1mr]

Have heard of this happening on a brand new Hilux on its way home after being picked up from the dealership. Pretty sure water in the air filter wasn’t an issue in that instance.

[@danwhite9436]

Mud and alternators/generators never go together. They need to be placed high in the engine bay to avoid damage. Wading depth is calculated at a certain speed and time at that specific depth. Splashing water or mud through an engine bay in a 10cm puddle can cause more damage then slowly driving through a 70 cm creek.

[@carsales]

You make a valid point but we generally blast through puddles in the same manner in every 4WD we test, and none of them have spat the dummy like this. None.

[@kichaa13]

⁠"I've done something dumb 100s of times and this is the first time something broke" It was just a matter of time and bad luck and seeing as you don't know how to cross water could have happened with any other car

[@Calgar-xi7ph]

​@@kichaa13so they do it with everything and it's not a test issue now because it happened to your precious Toyota brand? Lol ride that Japanese meat harder

[@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD]

*ALL experienced offroaders know that blasting through MUD will foul up the alternator... we've done it on our GX460 (Prado 150)... nearly left us stranded... blasting through mud (not water, but **_mud_** ) will always do this... it's just a matter of time*

[@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD]

​@kichaa13 you're spot on: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJ6up4mjpptjoKM

[@fatmanoverlanding]

It's not just economies of scales on why the boot was designed that way for the Aussie version even though we don't get the petrol/electric hybrid they get in the US. It is also where the batteries for the 48v mild-hybrid system is stored for our model.

[@phillipsampson4001]

Water in the air box stoped the charging… Ya what now? Have to wonder how many people will have issues with the AdBlue crystallising as well…

[@carsales]

We're hoping to get a proper response from the tech/s who worked on the busted vehicle. Stay tuned.

[@Stephcott2523]

Reading these comments I’m sure most either didn’t watch the video or read the article. The journalist said numerous times that the vehicle was pretty impressive and even in his summation in the written article was praising how good it was. Yes it had a problem and there’s a few issues that some people don’t think are ideal that doesn’t take away from how good it is.

[@carsales]

You make a salient point. The car is fundamentally very good. Significantly better than its predecessor. But of course we have to report on everything we experienced, and the breakdown is what people are focussing on, which is understandable.

[@daviddyson7359]

Toyota 4WD are finished. Thanks emissions laws Thanks Hybrid mandates Thanks unelected bureaucrats

[@tonylane8873]

Thanks Toyota's incompetent engineers and cost cutting accountants.

[@Leo555ZZZ]

Thanks elected politicians pushing more 'action on climate change'.

[@airessarmento3563]

Now days vehicles not so reliable because of loads of electronics systems or computers installed

[@krh007]

Exactly and with a couple of puddle crossings on testing ground it died. Not want you want when your offroad in the bush and needs to be towed to a Toyota Dealer. Also it is not going to be a decent tow vehicle for your $100k. In all seriousness the complex electronic driveline system is taking away the joy of learning the skill of offroading leaving the driver reliant on electronics to do the calculated thinking & he/she just steers which is pretty boring. Your better off spending your money buying and older reliable rig as a blank canvas and customising it to suit your needs or just doing that to your existing rig

[@Deatomizer]

A quick search on KZbin and you'll find there are many many other channels having issues with their Landcruisers and Prados.

[@chibbyylol]

Search hard enough and you can find issues for any vehicle on the internet

[@Deatomizer]

@@chibbyylol This model has only been on the market for a very short time and already has plenty of problems. Not good.

[@adamdennis7016]

The new hilux is blowing motors too. Over priced junk.

[@glenfarrawell9972]

Did not mention issues adding 12V accessories and this is why my wife is going for the reliable and capable Suzuki Jimny

[@livintherealworld]

@glenfarrawell9972 this car still has 12v

[@MargaretCollopy-jr3xh]

Broke down at the shops!

[@aussiemate2320]

Prado at home on the back of a tow truck. 😳

[@jackmeoff6095]

Not ideal to break down when being tested by a motoring journo 🤣🤣🤣

[@carsales]

This is true.

[@ozymandias7940]

I've got a 2022 Prado 150 and the air intake is in the R/H wheel arch. So if you plough through a pretty decent puddle, it's probably gonna suck water in. I think they're all the same? 🤔

[@mattmacca3990]

$100k… Its more suited to highways and weekend country drives than hard country - unsealed roads… reliability will be interesting..

[@bradralph4668]

It’s not ok that a $100000. Car breaks down and not ok for the reviewer to say that’s fine!! REALLY!!!!

[@Greg-jn8cc]

For that sort of cash I think a Grenadier would be more in my sights as a sturdy off road unit.

[@marty754]

seen lots of these 250 series videos ... this video at the 7 mins mark made me deeply appreciate my old 2007 Y61 patrol .... a dumb simple farm truck , but the simplicity resonates a golden song against this newer junk .... yeah I had the 2013 FJ Cruiser in MEA region and it was a gem .. but the older the 4wd the better it is overall .. better built .. better in reliability , better in simplicity .... I give up on 2024 .. I cant sink 100 k on any new 4x4 ..... except a merc Daimler zetros or unimog .... 46 inch tyres .... ok its about 270k for these ,, but no mods required....

[@carsales]

Unimog!

[@leosheppard8517]

What about that trolley? Did you return it to the shops?

[@carsales]

We can find out. Feann ended up pushing the trolley all the way home... can you get fined for not returning a shopping trolley?

[@tonyn1991]

So it’s a very capable 4WD as long as you don’t take it off road with any puddles. Payload is more than disappointing. So, don’t buy it for going off road or towing or if you need a big boot or anything heavy in the boot.

[@fatdoi003]

so power washing can also cause the same thing?

[@byronnightingale5550]

I couldn't stomach this in petrol-electric form. NO WAY!

[@carsales]

Yeah Australia is a still a diesel-loving country when it comes to 4x4s.

[@bradwebber3211]

I hope you returned that shopping trolley😂

[@carsales]

Well, the presenter (Feann) said his back is sore after pushing the trolley all the way home, haha. We had to laugh. He shoulda filmed that too. "This is the only 4 wheeler that's still going - the trolley!" Whether it got returned... not sure.

[@KevinFrampton-h4v]

To much electronics we found the same problem with a camry

[@FutureSystem738]

The days of Toyota reliability are long gone! It’s still ridiculously over priced though, and guess what: it’s also GUTLESS.

[@theozBandit]

VERY GUTLESS

[@peterbrowning1251]

Nice car & the look of it has grown on me. So don't go bush if it's wet, got it.👍

[@tonysmith26]

So far what I’ve learned is * The 250 transmission is “tasty”? I’m not inclined to climb under my 150 to lick it and see what it tastes like * The engine and transmission motivates it? How do I tell if my 150 lacks motivation?

[@NickG_]

I saw a similar error on my mum’s hybrid corolla when she drove it in a puddle of water during a heavy rain, the engine had to be replaced (MY21)

[@carsales]

Crikey! That's not good...

[@atiksepbintung2147]

Grenadier the way to go.. spaces interior, bigger luggage space, solid front & rear axle and turbo i6 diesel which has more power/torque . If I’m in the position for 100kplus 4x4 the choice is clear.

[@tersy9862]

Why did toyota aus bother with that stupid mild hybrid system. Its an over engineered stop start that doesn't actually do anything.

[@Coastmac2001]

Either needs the LC 300's oiler as a single turbo unit with 170 Kw & 600 - 700 Nm matched with the 8spd Auto , or the US Markets hybrid petrol. Why not both power trains??

[@boc3499]

Because toyota know the sheep here will buy it anyway.

[@petertimp5416]

Getting the Fortuner 2025 pre-48v in January……God willing

[@Anonbruzz]

Have a 2023 Crusade Tuna. Best purchase ever was around $65k for top range with bull bar fitted. Have done 50,000klms without an issue. Love the thing

[@richardwalsh5570]

Yep 2022 30000km, Brown Davis Bash plates and offroad animal sliders love them. First thing pull 3rd row seats out. Videos on KZbin as there is 3 bolts in each. 2 easy, 1 tricky.

[@petertimp5416]

@ good job, very encouraging 👍

[@petertimp5416]

@@Anonbruzz great!! Thanks for the encouragement 🙏👍🙂

[@peterward9755]

When is the new fortuner being released in oz it hasn’t been released in Thailand yet

[@ypwu1]

None of the other countries has 250 with 48v except Australia. So we are paying more compared with other countries and also pay testers for their 48v system😂.

[@leosheppard8517]

I’m here due to John C. Why did you wash it before return? You are supposed to return dirty and with no fuel back to the manufacturer.

[@carsales]

Wash before return? It's called courtesy. And John C needs to learn the difference between peaches and mangoes. Funny vid though, we all had a larf.

[@anthonybugge5220]

No mention that the doors sound like thin tin when you close them or the super soft suspension with body roll

[@billybob1511]

I love super soft suspension for rural touring. Prado 150 is a lot softer than 250. The door sound is unacceptable IMO.

[@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD]

mud fouls up alternators.. we've done it on our GX460/Prado 150... experienced offroaders know not to blast through mud

[@shreckm6470]

Something they need to address for 100G+ so called off roader.

[@gogogeedus]

that's right wading through water is different to charging through like a bull at a gate.

[@barrybbq1]

@carsales you know that if this had happened to a non journalist, Toyota would be A ignoring them or B blaming the driver for abusing the vehicle such is the state of modern "customer Service".

[@sydneyraj]

Alternator location? If it is low, that mud splashing drive can cause it. After market is gearing up for sealed unit replacements. Everyone is making money with a Toyota starting from manufacturer, dealer, after market and repairers. Buyers are ready to pay the tax for inflated pride. Keep it going guys as it helps a lot of us to find other reliable and affordable cars.

[@carsales]

Location of the alternator is a pertinent question and we'll find out. Given the 48V motor-generator died as well - which you have to assume would be very well sealed for water crossings given the higher voltage - suggests there may be more to this story. Stay tuned.

[@carsales]

We've had more talks with Toyota and they've said the vehicle has been repaired but we'll get a full report (hopefully) in early January. Christmas break etc.

[@awesome_comment]

​@@carsales where will you post the result? I am keen to know what they say. Not that I would fully believe it.

[@campbellreither550]

Exactly how did it break? Have I missed something

[@mickfitz76]

watch the video until the end 😮

[@carsales]

This is from Feann's (the presenter) written review over at our website: "After running diagnostics at a nearby dealership a day later, Toyota Australia came back with an explanation: water infiltrated the air filter, which messed up the 48V motor-generator (and the alternator for the 12V battery), thus causing the malfunction. "How did this happen? That’s still a bit of a mystery, especially since we test all our 4x4s in the same place in similar conditions. And when water gets ingested, the engine usually seizes - which didn't occur. "The Prado has a claimed wading depth of 700mm and the powertrain should be sealed up tight, and there’s no doubt Toyota put this thing through the wringer during testing and development - much of it in Australia. "Maybe there’s a small crack or leak somewhere we didn’t spot? We’ve asked Toyota for more details; if we hear back, we’ll post an update. But perhaps the moral of the story is to get a snorkel if you plan on getting it wet." Full review: www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/toyota-landcruiser-prado-2025-review-148308/

[@carsales]

We've had more talks with Toyota and they've said the vehicle has been repaired but we'll get a full report (hopefully) in early January. Christmas break etc.

[@timothykorner3080]

There needs to be another class action on the 2.8L for the timing chain issue they have.

[@noctilucent7396]

the 250 Land Cruiser looks more like a land cruiser than the 200 and 300 series, 250 looks like a mixture of 100 and 80 series

[@carsales]

Visually Toyota nailed it.

[@markins1234]

Why do Aussie Landcruiser lovers never accept the product is now old fashioned. Thankyou Carsales for such an honest review and wake up call to some of the contributors below.

[@Abu7929]

We do, but in Australia nobody recognises this as an LC, it's a prado. The 300 series wagon is an LC and is modern, the 70'series are old and we all know that

[@markins1234]

Agree, I was trying to be diplomatic. The Prado is basically ancient, which still has the LC label.

[@jamesdowning1798]

Reviewers seem to avoid the AdBlue consumption when in the Bush or Towing?

[@Fanta....]

no more questions. just buy now.

[@craigmooney2630]

Like previous models’ if you’re towing heavy your going to have to keep an eye on high gearbox temperatures

[@hoadie]

You’re right, it’s no spring chicken - it’s brand new! It is tubby though. Great review and I’m glad you covered the breakdown, when you didn’t need to. Can’t say I buy Toyota’s explanation, it doesn’t seem plausible.

[@carsales]

We're in communication with them now and will hopefully have a more detail answer to the problem early in the new year. We'll pin the comment, stay tuned.

[@Thesilverrat]

my PAJERO has most of the good parts and few of the bad!

[@veneratedmortal4369]

When towing your payload is 130kg if you're fully fuelled up with no accessories fitted.

[@carsales]

Yep, it's not a lot! Better skip lunch eh?🥴

[@dzat]

there goes toyota's reliability reputation....hahahahaha

[@joshuaschubert6276]

It’s a press vehicle given out to multiple people and abused something will always go wrong.

[@Notinserviceij]

​@joshuaschubert6276 no. What do you think people will use an off road car for, stop letting multi billion dollar companies off the hook for sub par products

[@daweigo6851]

​@@joshuaschubert6276nonsense, it's a 4wd and should not have issues

[@hoadie]

@@joshuaschubert6276what a cop out. It only has a few thousand km on the clock. There’s no way it’s had a harder life than many other cars will get during warranty period.

[@vitorharalambus6537]

They have had lots of issues with DPF’s and injectors but a certain sector of the market will always go Toyota whatever they do

[@PP-bm7zp]

Where is the alternator situated? thinking mud in the alternator has cause the whole electrical system to $hit itself and Toyota are trying to hide the fact

[@carsales]

We've had more talks with Toyota and they've said the vehicle has been repaired but we'll get a full report (hopefully) in early January. Christmas break etc. Stay tuned.

[@PP-bm7zp]

@ as a prado owner for many years and a admin on one of the largest Prado groups in Western Australia, good luck getting a straight answer from them😅

[@HammerRocks]

You shared what caused the issue, but did Toyota share how they fixed it? Was it simply drying & cleaning the areas impacted, or where parts needed to be replaced?

[@carsales]

Unknown if it's fixed. Tis the season for office closures so it could be a while. But stay tuned - we're looking at doing a follow up video.

[@HammerRocks]

@@carsales A follow up to this would be good. Keen to know as I'm seriously considering putting an order the Altitude next year.

[@carsales]

​@@HammerRocks We've had more talks with Toyota and they've said the vehicle has been repaired but we'll get a full report (hopefully) in early January. Christmas break etc.

[@FvN-tq9yv]

Well you know what they say “If you want to go into the bush, take a Land Cruiser. If you want to get out of the bush, take a Land Rover."

[@Rabsallawah]

They don’t say that… At all. Land Rover reliability is shockingly bad. Even worse that this Prado.

[@rovert1284]

Nice vehicle, very capable. The break down isn't what you'd expect, but at the end of the day it depends if it turns out to be common or a rare incident. I prefer to let teething issues in completely new models to be resolved, however it is really exciting to have a new model before they get common. Each to their own.

[@carsales]

It's likely Toyota will get on top of this issue, and the car is a beast on and off road. But if it doesn't address the many and varied issues it could take a reputational hit.

[@GhostofZuuzGaming]

$102k haha rather buy a bigger y62 v8 warrior for around the same price

[@brycem0]

Yep, bought one...Epic and plenty of smiles per miles...400 horses🐎.

[@robincollis6349]

But likes a drink as petrol only and Nissan is soon to be no more which will make major issues hard to repair as no factory backing ( if it happens apparently only have about a year to go unless someone steps in)

[@erker6423]

Nonsense ! get your Y62, and guzzle tons of petrol. By the way, Nissan is in big trouble, fused with Honda .....why ? As the car industry economists........

[@malcolmmcinnes888]

Except Nissan is on verge of financial collapse and now undergoing a merger with Honda - not sure where that will leave the Y62 in next few years

[@ianweal3081]

​@@malcolmmcinnes888 Christ there are some nonsense comments here. Rueben Dolfin tested both the Y62 & 200 series both back to back, off road, on road and towing same van over same route. The Y62 was as economical as the 200 series in all his testing. He declared the Y62 the more logical buy. Now Rueben was a Toyota fan boy, he went out and purchased a Y62 himself, converted it to ute and totally loved showing how extensively capable it was. Yes, he smashed CV joints doing it but he was doing extreme things, oh, 200s destroy CVs also. Plenty of oomph, driven correctly, economical also. Nissan has just released the far more powerful economical Y63. The UNE market alone will keep Nissan viable, don't be too worried about Nissan being around in the future.

[@harlequin904]

Well balance review. Subscribed as a result. Pity about The car’s a bit hit and miss for an expensive option. Seems very competent for off road, but the interior design and boot are less than optimal.

[@carsales]

It is supremely competent off road but there are issues, for sure.

[@drivingparadox]

‘Interior robust’? As you press the climate and seat heating buttons did you not note the whole centre piece flexing?

[@carsales]

There was a bit of flex!

[@aalhout]

You did pushed it (Hard) compared to old Prado and land cruise, if Toyota didn't solve their reliability very soon they will be in a big trouble to sell their toys, because most of the people are buying (EXPENSIVE) Toyota as it has a good reputation (only) over the last years only, but the market now has so many cars with better quality and cheaper.

[@gonegliding2966]

Trying to link the air filtration system with the electrical system.? I'd love to see that schematic ! Sounds like Toyota BS to me.

[@jakefrederics2724]

How on earth are you going to tow 3.5T (or even close to 3T) with that payload?

[@carsales]

With great difficulty!!

[@TheLawndryman]

FYI 92k AUD is equivalent to 57.5k USD.

[@albertkang1052]

Oh, what a feeling! 100k Toyota

[@stevenalexander403]

Outrageous! Typical Toyota ripping off the consumer. This thing wreaks of cost cutting, and the boot design compromises are unforgivable. A sombre, dull and grey interior, and what's with the class action and underpowered engine? A huge disappointment indeed, and that breakdown is completely unacceptable. Look out, the in-denial fanboys are lurking and ready to pounce.

[@pearce360]

I think my 10 year old commodore had similar interior design

[@Abu7929]

The malfunction is unnacceptable. He went through a puddle big deal. The aftermarket will have this covered soon enough but you shouldn't have to. The offroad capability is extraordinary. The way he crawled up that section with even a rear Locker was confusingly good. I'm over these sorts of high trim level offroaders. I considered it but got the new 79 instead. Can someone explain why they'd Put carpet floor mats in an offroad spec trim level

[@carsales]

Seems odd, agreed. It's a premium feature for a premium price perhaps? And yes, Feann stands by his comments - it's a weapon off-road. Absolute monster.

[@ianweal3081]

You think it's extraordinary no diff lock was required, that's only because you purchased a 70 series, they require diffs locked to go anywhere. I purchased a twin locked 76 (prior to traction control) it was so disappointing and incapable off road unless diff locks were engaged. Guarantee more vehicles are capable of doing that without diff locks as well, traction control has come a long way in other brands as well as Toyota. Ex, Patrol Y62 series 5, with no diff locks would walk up the rutted eroded incline. I'd be inclined to say my series 5 Y61 with it's prehistoric traction control would walk up there also, knowing my vehicle as I do, the diff lock is the most underutilised feature in the car. I brought our Patrol after owning the 76, as the Y61 only had a rear factory diff lock. I purchased an aftermarket front one, guess where that is today, still on the workbench at home, the std traction control takes our Y61 wherever I point it.

[@Abu7929]

I don't know maybe, makes no difference to me as long as I get where I want to go. I'v had pretty well you name It, never a patrol but driven one. Had a few N80's before the 79, no way they would walk up that climb like that without the locker either

[@bubbleboy468]

Can you turn off that Stop/Start thing?

[@carsales]

You can yes.

[@operation4wheelz]

Tho prados have always been a bit fragile in all things water related, you shouldn’t be splashing in to water puddles and crossings like that. Second low, and just push through the water at a steady pace. Yes, it doesn’t look cool for the camera, but splashing through water is not ideal.

[@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD]

yep we learned that in our GX460: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJ6up4mjpptjoKM

[@bubbleboy468]

True dat.

[@carsales]

Yep fair call, and you make a cogent point. However we've done the same - and worse - in dozens of 4x4s over the years. We try to keep the testing as consistent as possible.

[@FriendsPride]

website not opening overseas. it says 'you have been blocked'. advise please. Regards.

[@carsales]

We are working on making our website accessible globally, but that is not yet available.

[@FriendsPride]

​@@carsales Thank you for reply, hoping for carsales website to work again. this website not only consist of cars like many others around the world but also contains history of right hand drive automobiles with their current market value. "Such an informative website" for cars enthusiasts. in my free time i used to browse it and enjoy seeing latest cars, Maintained vintage cars with prices and also american cars in right hand drive. hope those days would come back. years ago it was carpoint i remember. Greetings of a season to everyone at carsales.

[@lot6129]

Get a VPN