The Plane That Couldn't Take Any More Passengers - UTA Flight 141

[@usmale49]

Their first clue should have been the passengers that were standing. Guess the executives orders were more important than a safe flight! Absolutely horrific. Great video...thank you!!

[@NCLUSA]

Well at least there were no people hanging on the outside ): ?

[@adotintheshark4848]

It was a 727 with a 747 load.

[@adotintheshark4848]

@@usmale49 totally unnecessary. Notice the airlines went out of business the day after.

[@Zickcermacity]

usmale: A Titanic of the air of sorts, where the pressures of an Ismay dictated operations, not the common sense of the cockpit.

[@anthonydebono8647]

@@NCLUSA

[@rocketscientist1594]

The captain totally abdicated his decision-making responsibilities. I really like the way that at the end of each video you show the aircraft flying as it should have been.

[@ValleyProud916]

So the co-pilot, the only one who had any sense was the only one of the crew to die. That's ironic

[@Milesco]

Seems like that's how the universe works. Or as is often said, "Life isn't fair." 😕

[@joojoojeejee6058]

He could have walked away.. Or DEMAND the weight to be measured. But obviously if they have the wrong manual in the cockpit, they could be overweight even if calculations say they aren't.

[@grahamstevenson1740]

@@Milesco No,it's how Africa works. Similar for some Asian countries too. Indonesia I'm looking at you !

[@ajeltheflightsimmer]

He's now in a better place don't worry.

[@rubiks6]

@@ajeltheflightsimmer- Unlikely. The vast majority of humanity is not going to that better place.

[@williamlouie569]

The co-pilot called it. He told the executive that resulting take off will end in the water!

[@ouroboris]

Excellent review of a crash that absolutely should not have happened. You do good work, MPC!

[@BestEachDay]

That's insanity. What idiocy. No controls anywhere. People being boarded with no seat assignments. Luggage not weighed. That's just unbelievable.

[@Dilley_G45]

At concerts and sports at least you get discount for standing area

[@jdaniel3068]

The African aviation way! It would still be occurring all across the continent if they cld get away with it. Some likely still do. There are only a couple of airlines I would agree to board in that part of the world.

[@grahamstevenson1740]

In Africa 'anything goes'.

[@TheLitehart1]

And the only buffer to all that hazard would be the crew, who seem to have allowed themselves to be cancelled by the executives' opinions. What a helluva reason for mass death.

[@richardshiggins704]

Excellent graphics . The B727 was a very elegant aircraft . Once again Africa at it's best . Total chaos and lack of discipline .

[@glenrosarian2352]

Yes and they said it was a 727-223, meaning it used to be one of American's 727's. I might have even flown on it a few times. So sad to see a plane you love end up like this.

[@adotintheshark4848]

Africa isn't that bad when it comes to aviation..However, no way would I board a plane in Indonesia.

[@jrt2792]

Africa actually has good airlines, except for Nigeria who has Air Peace which is..... chaotic...

[@adotintheshark4848]

@@jrt2792Air Peace? No thanks. I'll get there by elephant.

[@TR6Telos]

The Africans will never get to the moon.

[@davidmccann9811]

An airline being run by lunatics. The pilot even said they could end up in the sea, but he still decided to give it a go none the less.

[@ramblingrob4693]

He was a genius

[@grahamstevenson1740]

@@ramblingrob4693 No, no genius needed, just some common sense !

[@taproom113]

He wasn't "THE" pilot ... he was the First Officer. The Captain is the Pilot in Command and has the final say. The first officer is technically 'second in command. Having only been with the company for "just over 2 weeks" ... usually won't argue to the point of being fired.

[@southerncross3638]

I'm a truck driver on my semi. I have weight sensors on each axle that tells me my exact weight. Need to put them on planes.👍

[@MorganBrown]

The Aerosucre of passenger airlines

[@michaelbedinger4121]

May the victims all rest in peace 🙏

[@thomaskoss7477]

Unfortunately the F/O died. The only one who spoke up...

[@blancabulgrin5560]

Full plane with people standing?It sounds more like a bus in 3rd.world country ,then an airplane.Did this total include the chickens?

[@glenrosarian2352]

No chickens, but a whole load of cattle! No disrespect meant to the passengers.

[@telecomgear]

Lol

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

They included the weight of the 23 live chickens, but forgot to add the weight of the 3 pigs, 9 goats and 2 sheep.

[@billolsen4360]

That's a fowl accusation!

[@taproom113]

@@billolsen4360 Nice ... 🤣

[@TheSafariHunter]

The truth of the story is that ONE person was denied to board the plane and asked to take next available flight. He saw the crash from the airport. Unbelievable crash, but this is Africa.

[@jonmcfarmer6954]

Taking off without knowing: How many passengers, passengers STANDING with no seats, no weight on cargo AND its distribution! How on earth can a so expierenced captain do that? I am speechless!! 🙄

[@adotintheshark4848]

he didn't see anyone hanging off the roof outside so he thought he was safe.

[@jdaniel3068]

General low IQ.

[@nigeleast-jg7yv]

They should have installed a roof rack for the luggage

[@billolsen4360]

It's hilarious. Some people don't understand that they're not operating a bus company where people can ride on the roof.

[@stupididiot6116]

Banana Republic flying rules no.1 :- there are no rules !

[@thomastoups3451]

Don't unquestioningly trust ANYTHING out of Africa. I lived there for years...

[@Eds7570]

This is Africa.

[@James-FL]

took off with passengers standing!

[@frankfarago2825]

"Ah, chuck it. What's a few tons of gross weight difference between us aviation and scaling pros?'"

[@markorr7035]

So little time to react and they got it perfect. Amazing flying by pilots that knew their plane really well. Vastly superior airmanship!!

[@garylawrence7547]

Captain…why the hell are you even talking to these executives? You are the person in charge. You make the decisions.

[@hendrikdebruin4012]

In the corporate world it does not work like that. You are just in charge on paper, the megalomaniacs running companies are always in charge. Especially if they were appointed due to BEE or DEI.

[@offyotto]

amazing video!

[@bigsby211]

Even though they still decided to go ahead with the flight despite of all the craziness that was going on before they started to taxi during the take off run they should have aborted the take off before reaching V2 but guess the executives were in command and not the captain.

[@lbowsk]

Before v2? Don't you mean V1? Prob is, they had no idea what the appropriate V speeds were in the first place so predicating anything upon them was just a SWAG. They should have simply used every inch of the available runway to accelerate and then rotated at the last 500 feet. It appears from the vid that there were zero obstacles and they were at sea level.

[@watchhans]

Flight attendant: Captain, passengers still standing, no more empty seats. Captain: continue with take-off. Such an unbelievable stupidity and fatal ignorance!

[@mikeoittinen5623]

Ive been on 3rd world busses with no seating for all, but an airplane?! Jeepneys, too, you hang on the outside, lol. Philippine Rabbit was the bus line.

[@Sol-bg7rg]

Never heard of passengers standing on take off without a seat😮😮😮😮😊

[@TheLitehart1]

It's unbelievable! So when the message comes up to "Fasten Your Seatbelts", what were these standing passengers gonna do???

[@Eds7570]

There's passengers who are standing, passengers boarding loaded with luggage, and the pilot decides to take off without knowing the total weight he's carrying. Just brilliant. Those executives were morons. If I would've been the F/O, I would've insisted that the total number of passengers be made known, and all the luggage weighed, it not, then I would've walked right off that death trap.

[@guinnog2]

Great video.

[@MD-tv5fp]

The UTA logo in the graphics is the same as the French airline, which was operating as far back as the 1960's and was later merged into another. The livery is also an old Air France stripe. Only a three-year operation?

[@julosx]

It's quite not the same UTA than the original French one. This one just took over the name and the logo to make it look better.

[@adammcdonald798]

Shades of the MV Dona Paz disaster. A ferry boat with a passenger capacity of 1,424 sinks with 4,100 passengers and crew aboard.

[@JEHOVYIREH]

Excelentes reconstrucción capi Mauri el capi dé capi en la aviación mundial gracias saludos cordiales Cincinnati Ohio bendiciones 🙏🙌✈️🎉

[@rodolfoayalajr.8589]

How can a Capitán 👨‍✈️take off with passengers standing. Rip. Great recreation friend. Amen 🙏.

[@TheLitehart1]

Yes, how could standing passengers possibly be safe in take-off, turbulence, etc? And the flight attendants were OK with this??? This really challenges belief!

[@cll1639]

The video states the runway is 2400M in length or 7800 feet. The takeoff roll for a 727-200 at MTOW is shown as 8300 feet and this one was 5T overloaded. Reckon that might have had something to do with the incident? No way that jet was going to lift off at the speed it was traveling when they hit V1-rotate. They weren't even aware the plane was a different model. What a tragic chain of inexcusable errors.

[@Technoriety]

Is that the correct airplane livery? My understanding is there was a French airline called UTA, which ceased operations in around 1992, with its assets acquired by Air France. Then there was a different airline based in Guinea, that also had the name UTA, which operated in the early 2000s, and is the one that crashed into the Bight Of Benin.

[@juliusnepos6013]

It seems to be UTAGE

[@julosx]

The real UTA closed down at the end of 1990. Its assets indeed end up in Air France. I noticed this company copied both the name and the original logo of the French UTA. For the record, the actual UTA never used the 727. If they had purchased one, it would have been a 727-2B3.

[@Technoriety]

@@julosx Do you know of any real photographs (not computer 3D renderings) of the Guinea UTA using the French livery?

[@billolsen4360]

The Frenchies are 25 to 75% to blame for all the decrepit conditions in their former colonies. They treated Africa like scum.

[@stephengrimmer35]

I've been on several overloaded chaotic flights like this in Africa, or more specifically, being on someone else's time and money, I've gotten up and walked off. A TAAG 737 Dundo-Luanda, an AN32 Conakry-Lungi, and a Let410 Hastings to Yengema come to mind.

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

Was it the Let-410 that had the crocodile on board?

[@juliusnepos6013]

The deadliest air crash to occur on December 25

[@Glenn-mq8ts]

Of course, we don't want to inconvenience the passengers.

[@ImperialDiecast]

Passengers standing in an aircraft which is still cleared to takeoff. Just Benin things.

[@timothywilliams1359]

African aviation is to be avoided, unless you love rolling the dice.

[@julosx]

They did much better starting in the 2010s. I'd say South America is the continent that has the most efforts to make for improvement..

[@suzannerickles6169]

I can remember in 1960s in either New York or Cleveland a plane with too many passengers that had to be emptied and refilled to make certain seats for all. Never should have been done

[@Siren113Studios]

what flight sim is this?

[@YeahYeahBruhBruh]

Prepar3d (P3D)

[@maxinefreeman8858]

I would get off a plane if I was standing or seen others.

[@flyingtigerline]

Very nicely done.

[@jaym1512]

Passengers standing? I might understand if this happened in 1955. This was 2003.

[@jochenfrohlich1976]

Union des Transports Africains de Guinée!

[@hunting69doehle62]

To be fair, taking off without knowing your exact weight is not exclusively a third world problem. Just one year prior to this, Air Midwest Flight 5481 crashed in Charlotte, North Carolina, because they underestimated the weight of the passengers and luggage. The NTSB report recommended to use actual weights instead of estimates in the future - the report was published on Feb 26, 2004, just 2 months after the UTA accident; but I am not sure if it would have made a difference, had the report come out earlier. Looks like at UTA they did not care much about safe procedures anyway.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

did they have people standing?! Were they at least trying to keep track of the weight? And situate cargo for a proper center of gravity?

[@Milesco]

It must be noted that the Air Midwest flight had two separate problems. Yes, it was overweight, due to reliance on outdated average passenger weights from the 1930s (I'm not kidding), but in addition, the elevator controls had recently been serviced improperly, resulting in a significantly decreased range of motion for the elevator. If the elevator had been able to be fully deflected, the plane would have stayed in the air. And as Raptor pointed out, did the Air Midwest flight have extra passengers standing in the aisles?

[@GBEdmonds-j1i]

Not evven close by comparison its happened almost exclusively in 3rd world countries 5481 was a prop plane not damn liner!

[@billolsen4360]

Air Midwest hadn't take a real look at their passengers over the past 60 years in order to appreciate the amount of blubber they'd added to their frames over that period. Even young teens are now weighing in as much as adults did in the 1960's. If most people in north america want to haul ass these days, they have to make two trips.

[@billolsen4360]

@@Milesco The 1930's? About 100 years ago, LOL.

[@jamesx4952]

What’s the music at 8:50

[@YeahYeahBruhBruh]

@jamesx4952 It's *I Am The Man Who Will Fight For You Honor* From Chris Zanriskie.....

[@brucebeen5036]

Simple weight and balance

[@johnhanson9245]

I have a vision of an over-crowded bus with chickens and people hanging out the windows. Except it is a commercial jet barreling down the runway at 150 mph and no chance of defying the aerodynamic limitations of it's design flown by and run by a bunch of incompetent bus drivers with wings on their uniform

[@oneworldawakening]

Those poor people.

[@glenrosarian2352]

I just cannot understand why (money, the bottom line I know) executives put on-time performance and efficiency ahead of passenger safety. I think most of the passengers would have preferred them to delay the flight and fix the problems rather than hurry up and take-off.

[@ellischernoff8603]

A rotation to 3 degrees will not result in a liftoff in a 727.

[@MPCFlights]

Their bet didn't pay off unfortunately

[@MeaHeaR]

Yes u Korrekt, itt shood bees 25 Degree or Moore for highéf Łifts

[@hj8272]

What sane person could board this 'plane'? Flying in that region is worse than russian roulette.

[@JOHSONH]

Lo mejor de lo mejor en KZbin capi mau saludos cordiales desde oklahoma bendiciones 🎉✈️🙏🙌

[@michaelclarkson2218]

I've just been reading up on the french airline UTA's history and I can't find any mention of UTA flight 141 and this particular accident. Furthermore there is no mention that they ever had a Boeing 727 in their fleet. They did have one 737 in their fleet. Unless perhaps there was more than one airline called UTA. ? Please correct me if I'm wrong. As for passengers standing with no seats I wouldn't have thought that was allowed.

[@juliusnepos6013]

This is a different airline, another complete name that showed up for this particular operator is UTAGE

[@michaelclarkson2218]

@@juliusnepos6013Thanks for putting me right on this. It was just that the livery on the the tail was identical to the french airline and I got confused. Interesting video by the way. I've seen one or two videos where the aircraft actually lifted off right at the end of the runway due to overloading. One was an overloaded cargo plane which almost took a fence with it.🙂 Scary stuff.

[@julosx]

@@michaelclarkson2218 The original (French) UTA never had even a single 727. They used only 737s and 747s when it comes to Boeing.

[@LouSmorals2066]

I just cannot understand how anyone with sufficient intelligence to pass their commercial pilot's licence, can then show such utter disregard for the most basic of "red light" situations. I know had I been any one of those 3 pilots, with idiot company executives behind me or not... instant resignation and I'd walk off the plane and down them steps before that door had closed !

[@pascalcoole2725]

Guess, this is one of the few accidents, that need not further discussion.

[@paulw4310]

Wow...what a cluster of an operation that had no business carrying passengers...or anything else for that matter. Sadly the FO perished; the only one in the cockpit with any semblance of sense...along with a lot of others. Both sad and infuriating. Airliners need to be flown by the numbers...not slipshod guesses.

[@julosx]

UTA used to be a French company (Union des Transports Aériens) but this one just copied the name and the logo after the demise of the first UTA, the real one. By the way, this 727 was formerly an American Airlines one (727-223).

[@adotintheshark4848]

The real problem started early..a pilot who had no idea what weight he was carrying and of course, also the CG.

[@eyestoenvy]

"SPIRIT" existed way back then? An d 727's too?

[@JamieW-o7b]

Proof that corruption isn't always clever!

[@treefrog1962]

It was estimated there were 345 passengers plus their families but it was probably more!

[@ronjones1077]

Third world mentality by the crew and the owners

[@TheLitehart1]

The moment I saw there were 2 executives on hand I knew there would be trouble. Executives have no business being anywhere near the crew, imho, much less being involved in any flight decisions. When the crew didn't know the total luggage weight and there weren't enough seats for passengers, there should have been no take-off.

[@ronduncan9527]

This would only happen in Africa. No passenger manifest and no load numbers? The captain should’ve known better. He should’ve requested all of that or not flown. Could you imagine the passenger standing? They went flying!

[@allen480]

Note to self: Never, never fly into or out of a third world country.

[@MRPhoto_Digital]

Sure because there were never any crashes outside the “3rd world”

[@MrVeemoteandHisFriendShelly]

I think uta airlines was old or new cause the 727 was crashed climb but not the kilograms, so this plane crashed rest in peace but i dont have been this airline. 7:28

[@RindaJane]

And the executives live.. Imagine that. At least they lost their freedom 😮

[@jeanneewaseck6635]

Did, in fact, anyone actually serve time? I ask this b/c it notes "severe injuries".

[@sararet5]

Hope they learned this BIG lesson. KNOWING DA RESPECTABLE WEIGHT + da model of da plane is being used.....😢

[@skipcampbell4226]

That 727 must have been severally and I mean severally over grossed. They have been known to fly under extreme circumstances. I guess not this time! I remember Continental 727s to hold before take off. They would sit there with engines screaming to burn off fuel to get the weight down. That was in the dark ages. Awesome pilots though. They would rip down the runway and off they would go.

[@dusseau13]

I don't care if Elon Musk just bought an airline, the Captain and First Officer have the last word on the flight; not some pencil pusher, or in Elon's case, geek. Switching operating manuals is criminal, I hope.

[@cremebrulee4759]

In theory, that is true, but the pilots know that refusing to take off will probably cost them their job. It has certainly happened.

[@billolsen4360]

@@cremebrulee4759 In a slap-job corporation like this UTA bunch-of-clowns seems to be, it's better to lose your life vs your job.

[@ragnoklothbruute1145]

@@cremebrulee4759 t/ff$$

[@paolobovio6920]

What happens if u fly at 25th December

[@richardshiggins704]

You go straight to Heaven , no purgatory , pearly gates wide open .

[@mikeoittinen5623]

Greed, fraud, scalping, etc. and some 🐜 ants behaving as cargo led to this crash.

[@tariksiddiki1404]

15 UN Military Observers from Bangladesh also died in this tragic incident who were on their way to Bangladesh for leave.

[@russcudney1469]

Profits first

[@railroad9000]

The law of gravity will always win!

[@dingledav]

Standing room,a worrying development

[@bunglejoy3645]

Isn't it illegal to have people stood its not a bus or a train regardless of executives onboard he dhould have gone back to the stand

[@garyblunk]

Proofread!

[@Uswesi1527]

Since when African governments comply with any laws or regulations. !!!

[@cogitoergospud1]

Like a clown car at the circus.

[@england902]

Typical executives. Know sod all

[@Rogsie-p6l]

Sadly, in a lot of activities the executives not only lack institutional knowledge but despise those who have it. They regard this as a virtue.

[@billolsen4360]

@@Rogsie-p6l Such as?

[@Uswesi1527]

In many African airlines , it’s normal that passengers onboard standing , and overweight.

[@Eds7570]

If that's the way airlines are run in Africa, best not to fly commercial there.

[@Glenn-mq8ts]

Sounds like the Captain is attempting to drag race to the takeoff, holding the brakes until full RPM is something drag racers do in drag racing at the starting line? Doesn't sound like something you would want to do with a commercial airline taking off. I could tell as I watched this what the captain was doing was criminal. He was jeopardizing everyone's life aboard that aircraft. Everyone but the captain seemed concern by the issues before takeoff.

[@Blackdog222]

Standing room only on a passenger jet about to depart. No one has a clue as to the amount of weight that has boarded the plane. Ah, the African ways, they are the best ways.

[@ellischernoff8603]

No they could not each have 200 kg of luggage. That would be 440 lbs each!

[@MPCFlights]

Not 200 but 20.

[@yovannacoboslopez503]

10 days after my birth!

[@YeahYeahBruhBruh]

January 4th? EDIT: (December 15th 2003)

[@yovannacoboslopez503]

​@@YeahYeahBruhBruh No, December 15th of 2003.

[@YeahYeahBruhBruh]

@yovannacoboslopez503 Oh. Sorry, My Bad.....

[@yovannacoboslopez503]

@@YeahYeahBruhBruh Don't worry.

[@GrantJohnston-dr9rt]

The UTA employees now work for Boeing!

[@malcolmwhite6588]

Designing door securing fasteners

[@adotintheshark4848]

actually, Spirit Airlines

[@billolsen4360]

Their former executives too!

[@billolsen4360]

@@malcolmwhite6588 As if people didn't already know how to make those gizmos 60 years ago.

[@lilibethdoherty295]

Comedy of Errors, Tragedy for the Passengers.

[@richardcline1337]

One thing I see missing is whether or not any of the executives that basically CAUSED this crash by interfering with the flight crew even survived. Damned shame if they did!

[@Franklin-jj4jz]

Unfortunately, the crew (minus the FO) and executives survived. Ironically, the FO was the only crew member to express any concern about overloading. The only way he could have prevented the crash would have been to retract the landing gear as Jimmy Stewart did in 'No Highway in the Sky', if that's even possible with the 727.

[@LeeAnn-j3i]

Any decent person would know that the first officer should have made a scene since he was the only one who had any understanding of the danger. People died because he didn't actually do anything.

[@palco22]

Greed trumps every thing.

[@johnnyc.holmes4251]

I’m an executive with Johnson and Johnson. We are forbidden from using airlines that are not IATA Gold standard airlines in third world countries. THE CONTINENT OF AFRICA has some of the worlds finest airlines, but so many “ Chicken coop” regional airlines that have one or two antique jets in their fleet and operate from day today with no guarantee of tomorrow. Poor corrupt and inefficient authorities, rubberstamps everything for a few dollars in the back pocket. I have seen this happen more times than I can count. I was on a Philippine airlines flight 40 years ago from Cebu to manila One day before Christmas. They had a brand spanking new airbus, widebody plane! Everyone tries to get home on Christmas in third world country. Of course I had a first class seat that was purchased by the company several months in advance, so I was OK. However, when I was taken out to the plane, it had already been pushed back from the gate and was sitting on the ramp. I boarded the plane and noticed it was not only full, but there were several people standing around. I went to use the restroom and I will be damned! People were occupying the restroom! It turns out the captain was accepting bribes for people to just walk on, and find a place to sit or stand for the one hour flight to Manila. CASH ONLY. This is very common in the Philippines around Christmas time that happens on ships on planes, buses trains they are grossly overloaded with undocumented passengers. Because this was only a one hour flight, they were able to use a minimum amount of fuel on board to make the weight of the plane light. As soon as we took off, I noticed the people coming out of the restrooms and congregating around the gallery after we landed, people just started leaving like nothing happened. This is the way it is in poor countries.

[@ronduncan9527]

You could’ve put Aerosucre on the side!

[@michelscotto3900]

a plane with former air france colors on the fuselage and a former name of union des transports Aériens transformed in union des transports africains : DISGUSTING 🤬🤬 RIP TO THE FATALITIES 😢😢

[@julosx]

This company name was pretty much a steal.

[@TillyOrifice]

Not UTA. UTAGE. Confusing.

[@carel20081]

What do you aspect; it is Africa...

[@Dilley_G45]

A 727 lost? What a shame

[@ramblingrob4693]

I liked an been on one, better than DC9 an 737

[@adotintheshark4848]

@@ramblingrob4693I like the 727 best of the mid-size jets. The only jumbo I've been on was the Lockheed L-1011. Nice plane.

[@heidithompson6895]

I wish there was narrating

[@gusmc01]

"When 3rd Graders Ran An Airline"

[@grahamstevenson1740]

Botched weight and balance calculations have claimed the lives of SO MANY ! Clearly the Captain know something was 'iffy' when he talked of a 3 degree climb to gain speed. Sadly this is all too typical of local operators in Africa. Check out Air Peace for example.