What could be so bad on this '16 Hyundai Sonata that the CAR WIZARD is sending it to the junk yard?

[@karlegonnielsen7354]

People say, they dont have time to check the oil and water in the car, but they have a lot of time for Facebook and Instagram. Its a strange world now a days.

[@ljbrandt500]

Haha, so true. Imagine a car maintenance system that wouldn't let you get on social media until you checked the fluids

[@Derek8487]

My favorite is the ppl who buy new or almost new cars that cost big money then scoff at the Idea of paying for oil changes and run that shit 20k every time. Nice cars with bald tires get me too.

[@spicysnowman8886]

A good percentage of modern cars don't even require you to open the hood to check the oil level and people still don't do it.

[@bsgarey]

@@spicysnowman8886 Modern cars want you to destroy it and buy another one.

[@spicysnowman8886]

@@bsgarey in my car you can literally see an oil level readout in the gauge cluster, there's no excuse for not checking it at that point.

[@brucemitchell5637]

My niece had a Volkswagen rabbit convertible back in the early 90's that she completely ran dry of oil till the engine locked up. When I told her what was wrong with her car she said " Well i'll never buy another Volkswagen again!" I told her that the same thing would have happened if she had a Mercedes or a BMW. It's a vehicle, not a purse. It needs to be maintained!

[@MrEnglischjules]

wtf.....

[@MiGujack3]

That's how stereotypes stay alive.

[@zen-Tii]

A friends son-in-law bought a brand new Dodge with a 100% pre paid service plan. He drove it for a few years without ever getting it serviced or even checking the oil.

[@drunkenhobo5039]

I have a very similar story. A couple I knew had a diesel Mazda 6. It had snowed and they needed to go to work. But instead of digging the car out of the snow, they decided to just sit in the car and redline the engine in first gear with the wheels spinning, trying to get out of the snow. Needless to say that tactic didn't work and it just broke the car. They took it to a local garage and the mechanic spent weeks trying to figure it out. Ended up tearing down the engine to find they'd put so much torque back through the engine that they had bent the camshaft. The mechanic hadn't even thought that was possible. Of course the punchline is that they said they'd never buy another Mazda again due to it being unreliable... As an aside, the same guy from the couple once tried to force me to put boiling water on my windscreen to melt ice. I kept politely declining his offer until I just had to walk away...

[@nobatteriesincluded3968]

Preach 💯💪🏼

[@alexramos2066]

Wow I was one of the lucky ones... I have a '16 Hyundai Sonata where this exact thing happened. Keep in mind that I have always serviced my vehicle at the dealer, including all oil changes. Here's how it went down: I went for an oil change, and on my way back home, the engine lost basically all its oil, and I was leaving a trail of oil on the highway. I had to immediately pull over because it felt like the engine was about to blow. Ended up calling a tow truck. I then called the dealership and told them what just happened, given that my car had literally left their shop less than 30 minutes before it happened. With this being the case, and my maintenance history with them, they replaced my engine free of charge, and now I also have lifetime warranty on the new engine they put in. After the engine was replaced, they mentioned a lot of the same issues... flakes in the oil and cylinders, knocking, etc. I'm glad I was able to escape such a scenario as what this customer is going through.

[@Joseph1NJ]

Yeah, dealers,,, can they be trusted? Maybe they put a cork in the drain plug, Hyundai pays for the engine and the labor, and the dealer makes out.

[@raven4k998]

yeah paying for the oil changes can get you a free engine in there's a recall on that engine for being bad if it's a junk engine maintaining it is still worth it incase of recalls

[@peterharrell7305]

​@raven4k998 I have a 2019 sonata with this engine that my wife drives. Every maintenance has been at the dealer for this exact reason.

[@AustinRides7264]

Wow you got lucky. Hyundai's and kias are junk. Thank God they took care of you 🙏

[@4ksandknives]

It's because its a flawed design from the start as Scotty Kilmer said. Avoid Hyundai + Kia. They'd like to be considered in the same realm as Toyota and Honda, and while there's 'value' for the short term, there isn't long term reliability. You pay for what you get.

[@bulletheadbeatz2296]

My wife and I bought a 2016 Hyundai Sonata for our youngest daughter, who's in college. After driving the car just over 6 weeks, the engine locked up and put my daughter down on the highway. The oil had been changed 3489 miles previously. We had the car towed to the dealership, and after diagnosing the issue a week later, they said the engine had seized up. The car had 131,410 miles on it and before that happened, the car ran perfectly. It didn't smoke or leak any oil. So they submitted a claim to have the engine replaced, but Hyundai denied the claim. The reason they gave was because we hadn't had the KSDS software update performed, which is included in the 953 recall campaign. Honestly, at that particular time, We were unaware of any such recall or software update, and Hyundai hadn't sent us anything recommending we have it done. Had I known the significance of it, I would've made sure to have it done! After all, recalls and such are free! So the car sat at the dealership for a long time while we tried to figure which route to take. They wanted to replace the engine for $7k+, which I thought was ridiculous, since we had paid only $7k for the car to begin with. So I decided to call Hyundai's claim line and try and plead my case, hoping for some sort of sympathy or monetary relief. Once I got someone on the line and pleaded my case, the person on the phone asked me for my VIN. She then asked me why did they deny the claim and I told her it was due to not having the KSDS update. She said "Sir, your car had the update performed on Feb 9th, 2022"; your claim shouldn't have been denied. So she assigned me a case number and said someone will call me in about 3 days to further my situation. In the mean time the dealership called me and said I needed to come get the vehicle due to them running out of room for other customers. I then told them what the lady said about the update and they told me they would go double check the VIN and call me back. They called me later that day and said someone had indeed "fat- fingered" the VIN, which still pulled up a blue 2016 Hyundai Sonata that hadn't had the update performed. The service manager said they would have to resubmit the claim and call me back. The next day they called and said the claim was approved and that they were extremely sorry for the 3 month long mix up, and that they would place our vehicle at the top of the list once the new parts arrived. This mad my wife and I extremely happy because our daughter really needed her car to get back and forth to class. She lives off campus... So if you know anyone who owns a Kia or Hyundai, make sure you advise them to take their vehicle in and have the update done, if they haven't already. Because that and low oil upon arrival, is an easy out for them and they'll surely deny your claim.

[@audiquagaming]

Hyundai is trash

[@StraightUpRainbows]

This just makes me want to stay away from Kia and Hyundai all together. I’ve heard so many nightmare experiences from Hyundai dealerships.

[@ChasL704]

As they should if maintenance wasn't done. Look at it this way. You got a few more miles then most people who neglect them.

[@markschmalenberger8301]

I'd drop the pan, lremove the rod caps, emery the journals throw in rod bearings .if the knock is gone I'm good to go. I'll even do the job in a dirt lot under a shade tree. Good thing I've always done my own mechanical work.

[@Ron-kp5ow]

"What I did over my summer vacation" would have been shorter

[@blistery1875]

Last summer while at the lake, I spotted my 95 year old neighbour with the hood of her vehicle up and she was checking the fluids in prep for a 150 mile trip she would be making the next day. I had a good chat and let her know that over 90% of drivers today either don’t know or don’t care about the importance of what she was doing. How did we lose these important life skills?

[@zburnham]

We've been convinced that we don't have to put up with the inconvenience of basic maintenance on a car. Witness the "lifetime" transmissions on some cars. One trip to the shop for a few hours is too much for people. And anyone, I don't care who you are, if you have a driver's license, there is no excuse for not being able to check the oil. Pull the damn dipstick. And check it every time you drive away from a shop, because mistakes do happen.

[@AB-pl1ko]

- because some people don't appreciate it as 'I don't have time to check those things' and literally assume it will always work.

[@johngaither9263]

Almost all brands have better reliability now than before. Electronic ignitions and fuel injection did away with tune ups entirely. 100+ years of building ICE has taught the manufacturers how it's done. That is until they cut too many corners as evidenced here.

[@Mabeylater293]

@@zburnhamor just buy a car that DOESN’T burn oil.

[@joecap2919]

@@Mabeylater293 Are u on crack?

[@ghiggs5096]

My oldest sister did this with the car our parents bought her. She never even checked the oil and ran it till it died. Her friends ended up putting a junk yard engine in it.

[@kuyre2239]

buddy of mine got a Hyundai suv check oil and change oil every 3 -5000 miles. start burning OIL almost immediately. the engine lock up on highway almost killing him at 50k.

[@ghiggs5096]

@@kuyre2239 I'd never buy a Hyundai, they have known bad engines. My oldest sister bought an Excel when Hyundai first came to the USA. When she let me drive it, I couldn't believe how bad it was.

[@richardhoating23]

Female drivers should be required to take a course on basic maintenance on a vehicle BEFORE they are issued a driver's license...

[@chumbawaumbacumpa]

@@richardhoating23 Male drivers too buddy, you oughta see some of the excuses for young men out there these days.

[@rudyardganuelas6254]

nice casual sexism.

[@Immopho]

Have a 2015 sonata with the 2.4l engine. With meticulous maintenance. At just 116k miles the engine randomly started misfiring and the check engine light came on while driving down the highway. After limping it home I got the car scanned and it showed a misfire in the 3rd cylinder. After attempting small fixes like spark plugs and plug wires I decided to take it to Long Hyundai, this was my second mistake aside from buying a junk Hyundai in the first place. I stopped taking our car there for oil changes initially because I found an oil filter I had changed the last time still on the car after I paid them for an oil and filter change. With the car at Long, Chris from service stated it had no compression in the 3rd cylinder and it needed head work ($5300), but was pushed to do an engine replacement which was quoted to me at $7-8k, that I would be responsible for. After trying and getting no real diagnosis on the actual problem and a very difficult time trying to communicate with the service department, I picked the car up and coughed up the $200 “diagnostic” fee for nothing. Once I picked up the car I finally got the service report and the diagnosis was “blown head gasket.” I did not have a single symptom of a blown head gasket- no coolant in the oil, no overheating, no smoke out of the exhaust, coolant was clean in the over flow tank with no bubbling. I immediately drove to S&S Auto for a second opinion and they quickly found metal material in my oil and no symptoms of a head gasket issue. Long either completely missed this or did not want to tell me. I personally saw the shavings in the oil when I picked it up from S&S. They advised me about the warranty campaign Hyundai has on the 2.4liter engines and they didn’t charge me anything for the diagnostics. After doing my own research I decided to take it back to a dealership to have them handle the situation. I called the service director-John- at Long Hyundai to explain the situation and told him I was taking the car to a different Hyundai service center to reassess. He did not care that I was taking it to another dealership after Long has misdiagnosed the issue. John just told me, “Well let me know what they find.” (Tried getting a hold of him multiple times since and have never gotten a call back) After moving the car to a third shop, this time Mnt View Hyundai, which is about an hour from my house, I talked to Brian about what was going on and he stated they have been cleaning up a lot of issues from Long. After he had the car for a couple of days he stated he had found the metal shavings in the oil and that the car was misfiring and it should be taken care of under Hyundai’s warranty campaign 953 for excessive bearing wear on the crank. He went back and forth with Hyundai Motors America and I had to give them all my receipts for the oil changes I had done and they stated that my issue was not covered under warranty since my engine wasn’t knocking or locked up yet (basically because it hadn’t left me stranded on the side of the road), but that they would cover 85% of the replaced engine. After fighting for another week and hours on the phone with Hyundai’s warranty departments and Hyundai customer care with no resolve, I had agreed to cover the 15% that Hyundai wouldn’t cover. I was still mad they wouldn’t cover 100% from their own warranty, but it was better knowing Long was going to charge me $7-8k. Brian helped me get a rental car covered from Hyundai since some of the items were on back order. I was very grateful for that since I hadn’t had the car for two weeks at this point. A couple weeks later Brian called me and stated the car should be ready in a day or two and suggested random replacements, like air filters and brakes (all I take care of myself and have receipts on the last time I changed them) I picked up the car and paid my 15% of the cost which ended up being $828. I told him I wanted a test drive, no offense to him or the dealership, but I can’t trust anyone. Upon entering the vehicle I noticed the abs light and traction light on and the blind spot detection wasn’t working. I took it for a drive and went back and talked to Brian about that, stating there was no issue with this when I brought it. He had a tech sheet stating they ran the code when they got the car and it was on. I asked why it was never brought up to me while the car was in his shop for almost 3 weeks. He stated the tech ran some tests and stated it was operating properly and didn’t want to sell me a part I didn’t need. I stated having the abs and traction light on could be dangerous and could malfunction and he stated “it won’t lock up” and “it’s fine”. However, he did offer to fix the issue for free labor and I pay for the part, which was $360. I told him I wasn’t giving Hyundai any more money and drove my car home with all three of those lights on my dash. I am glad the car has a new engine and Brian did help me out with a lot of things, but there are still issues that should have been taken care of that just weren’t. The last month with the car and dealing with all of Hyundai has been beyond frustrating and I now have a car I don’t trust or feel safe in. They have definitely lost me and my family as customers and I hope anyone reading this will think twice before buying anything made by Hyundai.

[@Sunset4Semaphores]

Toyota is similar. They don't issue warranty enhancements for known problems... and it took six attempts to get a defective CV axle replaced under warranty in a Prius Prime... that had a cancelled TSB about the issue.

[@mjb180]

This is why the traditional automaker and dealership model is doomed to fail. Nobody wants to deal with this. I have had a direct sale EV(Tesla) for 5 years and service has been awesome. I had one issue which was common. Squeaking upper control arms. They replaced them in my driveway, charged me $120 for parts and $0 for labor, out of warranty. The 30 seconds I spent on the app creating the appointment was the entirety of time I spent dealing with it. Car Wizard is exactly right on his point about why people will switch to EV’s. We just want to get in and drive.

[@leonxl]

You just had a bad experience. That doesn’t represent all Hyundai dealers or vehicles. I have a Hyundai for 6 years now and it still runs like a charm. Yes, I’ve taken it in for its recalls and updates and have definitely kept up with oil changes and minimal maintenance. But in the 6 years I’ve had it, it’s given me almost no issue.

[@Immopho]

@@leonxl well it was bad enough for me to have the personal opinion that their cars, and Hyundai are trash. Seen many other stories similar to mine as well. Best of luck with your Hyundai.

[@williamsmith716]

When you said the grandmother bought the car for her granddaughter, I knew immediately she was not maintaining her car. Just hearing that, before you can see in the car already knew what the problem was. Lack of maintenance and I would expect to have very little oil in the car without even seeing the car. I've seen this so many times. People are just gas and go especially when they're given a car because they just don't take care of it. Either lack of knowledge about maintenance or just laziness

[@anthonybelyea1964]

It is a weird world we live in when it's cheaper to throw something away then it is to repair it. The amount of Natural Resources being wasted is insane!! Love your videos cheers from Atlantic Canada👍😎🇨🇦

[@modoc852]

Yes and especially in a time when society is supposed to reduce landfills we seem to be practicing a more of a throw away society

[@themanthemyththebanger]

This is part of the reason I'm keeping my old car as long as possible. Also because new cars do dumb things like the known piston ring blow-by issues with this GDI engine, and they nearly require a second mortgage to buy them. I've put $1,400ish into my car this year so far. Still way better off financially -- and environmentally -- than buying a new car.

[@James_Bee]

It's a consumer driven society. When Apple sells a new iphone every year with miniscule improvements over the previous model, what do you expect? And electronics recycling is mythical at best. These companies don't care about the environment. And apple is just ONE company. Everybody uses plastic these days, but plastic is terrible!

[@worldhello1234]

@@modoc852 Your virtue signalling still makes no sense.

[@worldhello1234]

How do you even know that and why do you even care?

[@piusg]

@15:45 Wizard, you're truly a class act. Thanks for this. It's sad that people have to be reminded to be kind and have sympathy. I've always admired your attitude toward protecting your customers. It seems that you truly care about people, and it shows in your work.

[@brayannexon4613]

Idk as a car enthusiast its hard to be empathetic to someone who wouldn't spare a minute to potentially save their car's engine. Now they get to go byy another car just for that.

[@saratc660]

@@brayannexon4613 idk man, I don’t think anyone deserves a 8-10k bill for not checking their oil or for mistakenly thinking “it’ll probably be fine” and getting hit it with the bill. It was clear even wizard was shocked that no one would rebuild it

[@brayannexon4613]

@@saratc660 there is saying that goes: Oil is cheap engines are not. The gaint bill was avoidable. Yet the lack of effort has bit them in the rear.

[@AI-qd4vb]

@@saratc660 what do they deserve then? A reward for their stupidity? To have a car so poorly maintained it barely had any oil left deserves very little sympathy.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

@@saratc660 Yeah anyone can rebuild an Ecoboom the 2.0 i4 turbo in the lower trim mustangs... And you could always just swap in a coyote the GT Mustangs's V8.

[@trom120]

From first-hand experience, the oil consumption on these 2.4L Hyundai engines is greater than usual. You'll run through a FEW quarts between oil changes, so you have to be really on top of the levels. You won't get a low level or low pressure warning, either.

[@tomtomorange]

That's the real problem why is there no oil light. When it is 2 quartz low

[@RichardSammartino]

Hyundai considers 1 quart per 1200 miles normal for the 2.4l engine

[@trom120]

@tomtomorange 100%. It's ridiculous that you don't get some kind of warning. A lot of drivers with that 2.4L may be running substantially low without warning. And this engine already has an extended warranty for knocking due to a defective bearing. The mfgr./dealer will take any excuse not to replace your engine under this program, and low oil is definitely on the list of excuses.

[@zteburner5882]

​@@RichardSammartinoHow many quarts of oil are expected by Hyundai for the 2.0L Turbo?

[@freedom0164]

We bought a 2016 sonata for our daughter and let me tell you, is been a nightmare for me checking the oil level every three or four days, now is smoking more that usual, that's the greatest garbage from Hyundai, I will stay away from them forever

[@sbedulin]

I’ve had engine for my 2011 Sonata replaced at 160k miles by the dealer for free due to high oil consumption (quarter per 300 miles). There is now a lifetime warranty for those engines by Hyundai because of all the lawsuits. If the dealership denies the warranty, please contact Hyundai customer service and also try another dealership. I have several friends who also replaced their 2.4s by warranty. There is a ton of info on Hyundai/Kia forum. I’d be happy to provide more details, your customer should not pay for the replacement of this engine. Good luck!

[@fmartin59]

Dealer already saw the low oil.

[@185chargers]

Did the dealer do an oil consumption test?

[@digitalrailroader]

I bet the dealer that the customer went to probably saw that they didn’t have any oil change records through them, so that gave them grounds to decline the service. But I would definitely go to another dealership and get Hyundai/Kia Corporate involved.

[@bpalpha]

Yup. Going to need that info. Got a 2011 with the horrible 2.4ltr Theta 2 engine.

[@Mike-si7mv]

My 2012 Sonata had the engine replaced two years ago by the dealer here in Tampa absolutely free. The rod bearings completely failed and seized the engine. Hyundai should replace the engine.

[@FredFlintstone223]

Note to self always make sure to top off fluid levels before issuing a car to a dealer for possible recall issues

[@0utc4st1985]

It used to be you wouldn't have to worry about excessive oil consumption in older cars unless the miles were high. But oil viscosity is much lower than before, which makes them more vulnerable to this issue.

[@kuyre2239]

hyundai make one of the worst engine in the world. they used to OEM Mitsubishi engines those were solid. as soon as hyundai made own engines, they all fail around 40k-70k.

[@BartStar009]

that doesn't work, the dealer is smart enough you just added new oil

[@0utc4st1985]

@@kuyre2239 The 2.4 Liter 4 cylinder that Sonata has is a shared engine with Chrysler, Kia and Mitsubishi. It's called the "world engine" for a reason.

[@dyer2cycle]

@@BartStar009 get some used oil from a repair shop..they should be thrilled to get rid of it...then, they can't tell you just added fresh oil...

[@nicholasrobinson2237]

As a service writer at a Hyundai dealership alot of those 2.4s have an engine warranty extension. I bet if I ran the vin through our system I could see if it does. Also low oil is common because these motors burn oil like crazy

[@fmartin59]

You should email car wizard of you can help

[@185chargers]

I own a 2016 Hyundai and it does burn about a half quart a week. I check the oil level every Saturday.

[@jciarkowski3109]

in oil consumptions ive seen them burn 4qts in 1000 pretty common

[@CarWizard]

The dealer, and corporate, have already informed the customer that warranty / recall will not be honored on this car.

[@Gruxxan]

If owners don’t check the oil level at all, then this will happen sooner or later. It’s so easy to check a dipstick, or get someone else to check if you don’t know how.

[@s.h.5726]

My brother did that to a car back in the 90s. Locked up the engine in the middle of the intersection. He said he didn't know cars needed oil. Heared the same thing a few years ago from my girlfriend's little brother. People just don't know and it's a hard lesson.

[@AbcAbc-sp1od]

I can understand women not knowing cars. But your brother and your girlfriend's brother? Men should know cars.

[@Windows98R]

@@AbcAbc-sp1od I know someone’s gonna go snowflake and get offended but this is true. Men should know cars. It doesn’t have to be in-depth knowledge but at least basic knowledge like how to change a tire, when was the last oil change, brake pads etc. Even the most uninterested person I knew towards cars still knew the basics of how a engine worked. Needs oil, needs gas, needs air.

[@Sodapopper100]

@@AbcAbc-sp1od It’s not that they should know cars, it’s a responsibility for any car owner to know some basic things about how cars work. It’s more likely that growing up, they had no one in the family that was interested in maintaining cars, so in turn the rest of the offspring wouldn’t care either.

[@tocreatee3585]

90s TOYOTA is more reliable today than new 2023 hyundai. hyundai KIA engines are Almost always Junk.

[@evoman44]

@@Sodapopper100 I have a few friends that are school bus drivers. And as part of their training they are taught how to do a basic check up like checking the oil.

[@MF-le7fp]

I bought a 1992 VW Golf for $100, that was in pretty much the exact same shape, except the oil pressure light (and buzzer) was on. Dropped the pan, and the “oil” was nothing but sludge. The oil pump pick up screen was covered in a solid “mud cake.” Cleaned the pickup, shoveled out the pan, and reinstalled. Filled the engine with 2 quarts of “Motor Flush” and two quarts of cheap 5W-30. Let it idle for 10 mins, then proceeded to steadily increase throttle until it was near 4K rpm. Expecting it to either “grenade” at any moment, or clear the blockages. Miraculously, it suddenly cleared, and the oil light/buzzer went off. Dropped the pan, dumped all the new gunk/sludge, and recleaned the oil pick up. Plasti-gauged and replaced one horribly torched rod bearing, and filled it back up with 4 quarts of Mobil 1 10W-30. Proceeded to deliver Dominos pizza in that car for the next two years. It ran just fine, and sounded relatively normal in the winter. In the heat of the summer months, though, someone once asked me if it was a diesel. 😂 So, sometimes “dead” doesn’t always mean it MUST be buried. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. You mentioned the salvage yard, as that Hyundai’s likely destination. And halfway through the video I was thinking salvage yard. Not for drop off, but for pick up, of a used engine out of a wrecked donor car. Aside from that option, you could have also purchased it from the customer for a song, and started parting it out on eBay with “local pick up only” for all the parts. No hassle in dealing with shipping, and you’d make a ton of $. Thanks for reading my novel. Have a nice day everyone!

[@chowchow2386]

I tried that with my lemon. Previous owner never changed oil regularly. Good luck with that. Ended up selling it for scrap.

[@chrispaulson2934]

Many years ago while working as a tech at a local Hyundai dealer I had a customer bring in a 2000's sonata. (Can't remember the year) anyways for the most part it was really clean with high mileage. Customer made a comment about an oil change so I figured this was gonna be easy. Well apparently at 90,000 miles or so, this was her time coming in for an oil change. I checked the dipstick and yup it was dry. I tried telling the service manager that we shouldn't touch the car, but I was ignored. Put the car in the air, removed the drain plug and it was pretty much chunks and metal shavings coming out with pitch black sludge that was remnants of oil. The service manager wanted me to perform 2 oil changes on that car in "hopes" it would fix it. That's not how oil changes work. I felt bad for the customer, but also annoyed that they brought this on themselves. And pissed at the stupidity of the service manager. I didn't stay long after that.

[@AJ-xm4xc]

That is clear negligence on the owners part.

[@chrispaulson2934]

@@AJ-xm4xc agreed

[@tlechoppa9691]

Service manager sounds like scum. Anything to make money off the customer.

[@adotintheshark4848]

a lot of owners are just ignorant. They think all they have to do is put gas in when the gauge reads empty and that's it. "maintenance? what's that?"

[@kuyre2239]

some of Hyundai / KIA dealers are straight scammers.

[@mrnick13100]

My mother has the same car, with the same issues. I bought the 2010 Accord she chose this car over. 210k miles and it's mechanically perfect.

[@darkiee69]

When you're taking your drivers licence in Sweden there's a "garage lesson" where you learn to check the fluids (oil, brake, washer, coolant) and other essentials.

[@TheMentalblockrock]

That's a really good idea, I have a lot more respect for the Swedes when you refused to lockdown! Also SAY NO to the 15 min cities!

[@nathanielbailey108]

Man the US has really gotta stop paying for yalls defense budget 🤣

[@darkiee69]

@@nathanielbailey108 Well, seeing that you haven't spent a cent to the Swedish defence budget yet just go ahead.

[@spicysnowman8886]

@@darkiee69 if we weren't so damn caught up in being the world's police, other countries would probably be inclined to put more towards defense. We bolster our allies defenses simply by being allied, but it's the American tax payers who pay for it.

[@kampar82]

@@spicysnowman8886 Please read a bit on Swedish defense industry, they're doing nice things with the Swedish tax payers money. But on another note, yeah, I think Finnish drivers license also gives the basics on maintenance, I drive a Swedish car so I need not worry.

[@z8669zzz]

Thank You Mr & Mrs Wizard, I just repaired a minor turn signal, and I will go and check my oil! 2006 Hundia Elantra, I deliver flowers with it, just turned over 90,000 miles. For my last oil change, they replaced the oil drain plug with an oversized plug. As my mechanic stated these oil pans were aluminum. The idea was to decrease the weight of the engine. So every oil change, I will just cross my fingers, you convinced me not to let this go! I do like your inspections of the vehicles both inside and out! Thank You!

[@cincy9381]

I have this same car only with the 2.0T. I think you're spot on with the oil change interval point. Hyundai says you can go 7500 miles in between oil changes which is way to long IMO. I've changed the oil every 3k in mine since the car was new, and check it frequently. At 100k miles, it does not burn any oil. If I was the customer I wouldn't give up fighting just yet. I've seen several people on the sonata Facebook group that I'm in get told no several times, but finally get it approved after a battle. These engines are junk and Hyundai/Kia know they're junk. Unless they just flat out never changed the oil, hyundai should cover it under the campaign. Id fight them tooth and nail. This is exactly why I've always had my service done at the dealer, and keep all the records so they can't pull this BS if the engine blows up. I think with proper maintenance these engines can be decent. But couple 7500 mile oil changes, which probably turns into 8500 mile oil changes because they're "a little late", and never checking the oil, and these engines are a recipe for disaster.

[@XAMPOL]

Strangely enough I also own a 2015 2.0t, oil changes every 3-5k, oem oil filters, topped up my oil as needed, and it STILL spun a bearing at 98k literally a couple weeks ago. I was recently just approved a "new" engine, turbo, and intake manifold under the lifetime warranty due to huge settlement over these engines. Covers my ass about 10k+ dollars! Unfortunately the impending doom these engines have is inevitable, especially the ones that come from the Alabama factory. Even the 2017 sonata 2.4L i had before this only lasted about 120k miles. Hopefully yours does last a lifetime though. Good luck!

[@cincy9381]

@NLOE ya I think it's hit or miss. That's why I've got everything documented though from the cars service history. So if it does blow, it definitely wont be from lack of oil, and they wont be getting out of replacing it under the campaign either. My goal is 150k. At that point, I'll be ready to trade it off anyway.

[@LabCoatPaul]

A 7,500 mile oil change on a Hyundai turbo GDI engine is crazy. I sent several oil samples to Blackstone-Labs from my 2017 Hyundai Tucson with the 1.6L T-GDI engine, and it failed all of them for fuel contamination in the oil. MY car has 32,000 miles on it. The first sample I sent in had 6% fuel contamination after 3,600 miles. That means 6% of my oil is actually gasoline and not oil. The limit is 2%. Any more than that, and the oil can't protect the engine from wear. The lab said "1,200 mile oil changes and go fix your car" I did a second oil change and had the same results. The dealer replaced the high pressure fuel pump under warranty. I did a couple more oil changes and now it's fixed. I got 1.8% fuel contamination after 2,600 miles. That means I can do 3,000 mile oil changes, just barely. Any more than that and I risk damaging the engine. My friend has a 1998 Toyota Tacoma with 250K miles and sent his oil in after 6,000 miles. He has ZERO fuel in his oil. Also, he doesn't have GDI. Is it a coincidence? I think not.

[@JoelKaufman]

I have a 13 2.0t limited. I keep oil changes regular and it uses just a bit, maybe a quart between changes at 5k. But I know the turbo can cause that a bit. I got the car 4 years ago with 57k on the odometer, it has 101k on it now. Runs well on the road, mpg in town isn't great but I expected that. I know the dealer told me, when I went in for a recall, that there is now a lifetime wty on the long block. I have actually been happy with the performance and the features, so I will keep driving it and if it locks up I will get the engine replaced. I am also using LiquiMoly 5w-40 in it now instead of the 5w-20 or 30 the dealer would put in there.

[@cincy9381]

@@LabCoatPaul I agree. I think the actual reccomendation on the turbo models by hyundai is 5k not 7500. But still I'm doing mine at 3k. Oil is cheap engines aren't. I still think 7500 miles in any GDI is to long. Regardless of if it's a turbo or not.

[@SphericalThinker]

It’s a hard lesson to be learned but hopefully the granddaughter now understands the importance of maintenance.

[@joeydeemendoza]

Agreed, not trying to be unprofessional or mean to the owners, but while the motor in this car isnt the best, this was not the manufacturers fault. This was the irresponsible owner/drivers fault.

[@speedmaster001]

@@joeydeemendoza there is a current massive recall on Hyundai for faulty engines. There is even a live class action lawsuit. There's a real problem with Hyundai engine knocking. You just need to do a search on youtube for Hyundai engine knock and there are at least more than 30 videos in there.

[@readone7201]

It’s not really the daughters fault but the car. This engines burn 1 quart every 500miles 😂😂😂😂

[@ronijr4918]

Not very much about maintenance they are built very poor. I see vehicles with 40k miles and already consuming oil. Kia/hyndai engines are horrible, even if you replace your oil every month.

[@Alex11Magic]

Their newer engines must be like this, I drive an i30 1.4 N/A (I think that s the Elantra in America) and I hit the redline everytime I drive it. Close to 100k miles, doesn't burn a drop of oil and it runs like new, though I change the oil every 5k miles or so. If it's true, it's really sad, the appeal for a Hyundai for me was their rock solid reliability...

[@robbieraychannel]

Wizard, That is some good and honest advice for your customer. I did a rebuild on one of those junk GM 3.6 motors for a family member. I am a pro mechanic and I used the highest quality parts I could get. The motor took a crap about 8 mo. later. Like you said some motors aren't worth rebuilding. I did the labor work for free yet I still feel bad about it.😔

[@Dozav7]

That’s so crazy that these engines are disposable. I replaced the bearings on a 74 454 in my driveway as a teenager and it came out fine.

[@tocreatee3585]

My mom just traded her 2017 Santa Fe sport because it burned 2 Quarts every 1.5k miles. Only had 80k miles. It was ridiculous. She got a 2019 rav 4 with 17k miles. I’m happy she listened to me and got a Toyota.

[@mph5896]

I maintain a 2014 Acadia with the 3.6. It currently has 207k on it. It does burn oil, 1 qt every 1500 miles, but keep it topped off and going. I have seen plenty of 3.6l with 200k+. The earlier ones were bad with timing chains, but the 2012 or so + that was resolved.

[@pierrerouvroy2433]

I ll bet that the timing chains went... we cannot use aftermarket parts they are all from china with low quality for sure...

[@chuckwalla2967]

I had a 2005 CTS with the same engine that didn't make it past 60K miles. Lost a shit load of money.

[@rofotheman2230]

I’m so glad I stumbled upon this video! I appreciate that you took the time to advocate for this family. There are plenty of videos demonstrating these 2.4L engines are poor in design and likely to fail with many seized engines. Shame on Hyundai! I own both Hyundai & Kia I can assure they will be my last vehicles I will buy from them…even if they go strictly electric!

[@Mikkiboo]

Oh wow! I’m looking for a used vehicle and there is one 2019 Kia 115,000 miles. Probably not a good idea then 😢

[@baconbities]

Its so crazy how a car can look perfect fine on the outside but one internal problem can completely make it unusable

[@rolandthethompsongunner64]

Kinda like humans 😂

[@fffwe3876]

because its Hyundai

[@Runco990]

That explains the many high mileage but clean looking cars on craigslist asking a fortune for what are really clapped out heaps about to die.

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

@@fffwe3876no numb nut, it’s because the owner neglected to maintain the engine.

[@chairrider2462]

The problem here was defective daughter.

[@tmanepic]

Not to mention likely the worst thing about hyundai/Kia ownership is the dealerships are horrendous.

[@nathanielbailey108]

Hyundais and Kia’s are horrendous

[@swissmrkc]

To be fair every dealership is horrible... I don't buy Ford or Chevy but I for better for worse have driven a different brand car for each of my purchases and I would say Acura is one of the better experiences. But that being said a dealership is a dealership they always try to nickel and dime even Toyota dealerships..... Hyundai and Kia aren't great either but it helps if you're in an area that has at least two or three competing dealerships because then if there's more than one place you can buy the same brand car within a 30 mi radius they have less gumption to be dick heads

[@mikefoehr235]

@@nathanielbailey108 Man you are dead RIGHT about that.

[@scottalston8670]

Even Genesis sucks. Had a G80 and was treated horribly…went back to Mercedes

[@waterloo123100]

In my area the Gm and Ford dealerships are better Would never buy or have my vehicle serviced at the dodge dealership. Which is unfortunate because I love Chrysler cars.

[@doubleaaaron]

So sad. I'm mechanic myself, and You are right car wizard, life just gets in the way just as it has for me. I let my trucks oil go longer than normal and it was a little low and also black. (I never do that) but with life's normal problems and for me, I go to doctors often due to my health, and I'm your age, and i tell you, it is tough to keep up with everything. I hope the sonata owners find another car and check the oil in it! 🙂 Sometimes it takes things like this to remind us to take better care of what we own.

[@TheInFam0u5Drag0n]

With most other vehicles it wouldn’t be as egregious a problem. Hyundai is just ridiculous. Trust me, I know. Hope you’re holding up ok

[@8bpianoplayer]

I owned a 2016 Sonata with this same Theta II (2.4L 4 cyl) and had the dealership handle all the maintenance, and every oil change was documented. Started having oil consumption issues around 120K miles, anf had the motor replaced at 137K. All was well...until the transmission died at 191K.

[@jasonan8800]

I am Korean. I expected an American car mechanic to talk about Korean car engines someday. It was your video today, and my prediction was right. In fact, the issue of modern direct injection engines in Korea is quite old. Past MPi engines still have great durability. As a Korean, the fact that Korean cars are often mentioned by Americans. I feel quite happy, but I feel bitter about many bad issues. I feel that. Thank you for the video.

[@anasevi9456]

I remember Hyundai in 2000s; their engines were very reliable. My father owned an elantra with over 500,000 km on the original engine and gearbox. It's sad to see how Hyundai engines have declined since.

[@kaywonderer]

@@anasevi9456 As long as retards keep buying them why bother.

[@nthgth]

2000s were definitely the heyday for Hyundai/Kia

[@mitchellsteindler]

@@anasevi9456 Americans love Korean food and technology. We also love your cars, but they are having problems right now. And many even like your music!

[@Browningate]

Some of Hyundai's higher-end products have a much better reputation now, starting with the 2009 Genesis onwards. They're basically seen as "the new Lexus."

[@SalemTechsperts]

Such a shame that for a few years Hyundai and Kia were looking so promising, offering seemingly decent cars at an affordable price. Then those cars began to age, and we saw just how unreliable and disposable they really were, specifically the engine's. Every day there's a new recall. Then the whole USB thefts put the nail in the coffin. It's a shame, I was really rooting for them and personally love the Genesis lineup.

[@elesjuan]

Lipstick on a pig, my man. Just like building a budget performance car, you have to cut some corners. Cheap, Reliable, Luxury. Pick two.

[@EdgyNumber1]

Only made to last 100,000 miles. Even Mercs and BMWs are disposable these.

[@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow]

Hyundai's early 2000s cars were actually much more reliable, and lasted a lot longer, than their newer stuff.

[@spicysnowman8886]

@@elesjuan the triangle is cheap, reliable, fast

[@elesjuan]

@@spicysnowman8886 Thanks, but I prefer it my way.

[@bradnoyes7955]

I check my oil (almost) every time I fuel up. Gets me strange looks at the gas station sometimes. (Especially the time the stupid plastic handle of the dipstick broke off and I had to crawl under the car to get it.) But then everyone is surprised when they learn the car has over 260,000 miles on it. Take care of your investment, and it SHOULD take care of you.

[@lamaquinadefuego]

I suggest you check with another dealership to see if they'll file warranty for you. I had the same issue on a 2015 Sonata SE mode I bougth at 44k miles. I never serviced it at the dealership. Noticed that I had to keep adding oil and took it to the dealer at 125k miles. They did an oil change, asked me to take it to them every 1k miles to check the level. After the 3rd time they filed a warranty claim for me that day and it was replaced w/in a week. Oh, and no, it does not give you a low-engine oil warning when the car is burning oil. I only noticed b/c I checked it periodically but nothing ever showed up on the dash. The issue I'm having now after about 2 yrs is that I took it 1yr ago for a software update and I think it caused a computer issue. 1 out of 5-10 times I start the car and start driving the car will not accellerate and revs up a lot, then it also feels like the transmission is not getting into gear. I then just pull over, turn off the car for 5-10 seconds, restart it and it drives perfect from then on. Took it to the dealer but it didn't do the fault when they test drove it a couple of times. Any ideas what it could be? I think it might be software.

[@daveisdead]

Did you find out what it was? My old Altima had that and it was the transmission

[@deoxysx1657]

My family had 2 Sonatas, both same model as the one in the video. Both ran perfectly and drove so smooth. The only problem was an occasional infotainment problem with the Bluetooth. It’s such a shame that these are apparently problematic but I’m glad our experience with these was nice

[@mplslawnguy3389]

The overall quality control on Hyundais and Kias is very poor. Yes, some people have good experiences, but a lot don’t. There’s a reason you pay more for a Toyota or Honda.

[@seeya205]

No car can run on low, dirty oil.

[@FSXgta]

Put in an aftermarket radio if possible. They are so much better

[@deoxysx1657]

@@mplslawnguy3389 very true. We’ve had several JDM brands and had pleasant experiences for the most part, Nissan being the best overall for us if you can believe that

[@Carculture73]

I also had a few Hyundais and never had any problems.

[@nick_vee]

My 17 year old nephew got his learner’s permit to drive and soon will be shopping for his first car. Extremely intelligent kid but has never turned or held a wrench and hates to get his hands dirty. His dad is the same way and his stepdad pays people to do everything on his and my sister’s cars. I hope someone other than me shows the kid how to do basic car maintenance or handle emergency situations in a pinch. I’d love for him to be able to change his own oil or at least check it along with tire pressure, fluid levels etc. like my dad showed me how to do as we bonded 50+ years ago. The boy is a master at video games, social media, schoolwork etc. Unfortunately, I think we’re raising a generation of kids these days without mechanical or practical skills and it’s sad. Thank you Wizard for helping these customers honestly and for not charging them a dime to let them know this car is totaled and not mocking or bashing them for doing it. We don’t know their life situation or level of skill. Hopefully they can come up with a solution at this point (perhaps sell the car for parts?)

[@jake960]

2015 Sonata that we got my daughter had the same issue. The engine is notorious for burning oil. Thankfully the dealership we bought it from had a free engine/drivetrain for life policy and replaced it for free.

[@aabidamn]

But if they don't fix the problem in the new engine, it would need replacing again. Even when it's free, it's always a hassle to go to the dealership for the same thing, over and over and over. Still a waste of time and effort.

[@believeinyourself4457]

Hello Car Wizard, firstly, let me say that I am very grateful for what you do here, smiles for many miles indeed. I just got my 2015 Hyundai Sonata back from the dealer, after getting the engine replaced at no fee, other than the two serpentine belts that were due. The motor just stopped after turning onto the street I live on, coasted as far as possible, made it onto a side street, and later used it as a leg press machine alternative, pushing it up the incline to get it in to a place where the road was flat. And it began to collect parking tickets as options were considered. The battery wouldn't take a charge, ....so when Hyundai was called, it was after the mechanic I had it towed to told me the motor was gone. Mine is in great shape, at least, this is what every single person that has been inside it tells me. The engine is a flawed design, whether or not the flaw was due to many assumptions being made in its design, which would be in line with how Hyundai began, but you are fully on point with your decision. It wasn't a car I would have chosen on my own, neither was that rather generic 2014 Jetta I had for a year. If you hear about the equivalent of a nuclear level industry shaking event happening northeast of you.....bigger than 2008, in the insurance industry....that would be me.

[@Sciophobia.]

Did you have the 2.4L or 2.0T? I have a 2.0T from the same year and this is very concerning. I got the Service Campaign 953 so I at least qualify for the lifetime warranty, still pretty concerning.

[@giorgiogreco4978]

I personally check the fluid levels in my car at least once a week and when a big trip comes up I check them one time before I go and one time when it's time to come back. It doesn't take more than 5 minutes and you have peace of mind that something catastrophic won't happen

[@tocreatee3585]

never checked my oil. the secret? Honda

[@giorgiogreco4978]

@@tocreatee3585 they truly are great cars. I used to own a 99 civic sedan. I had it for 5 years until a drunk driver wrecked it

[@dyer2cycle]

@@tocreatee3585 Hondas need oil, too...let it get too low(and it eventually will) and she will blow..Hondas are quality, but they are not magic...

[@dyer2cycle]

..Yes, same here, and I check the tires as well....

[@betterbeavailable]

The car should warn about low oil. Or is that too advanced tech for Hyundai?

[@wildbill6366]

My dear old dad used to tell me the oil is the cheapest way to protect your engine and always had me check it ..That's a sad story on that Sonata ....But I agree with your assessment.💯

[@RobertReagin-j7q]

I’m on my second Sonata. 254,000 miles on my 2011. Currently at 272,000 plus on my 2016. Other than tires, brake pads, oil and filters it is totally original. I hear horror stories about Hyundai’s but I’ve had great luck with them. Still runs great and gets 34 mpg.

[@SwingArmCity]

S-u-r-e

[@1mlb704]

My buddy has this exact car, same year, same engine. It has around 110k miles and it's been very good to him so far, but he's good at keeping up with maintenance. I actually changed the spark plugs in it for him last year, it was super easy to do.

[@scene24man]

Hopefully he got a good engine. Many from factory were just junk.

[@djncrti2860]

You go by the book on maintenance and it’ll still be crap.

[@1mlb704]

@@djncrti2860 pretty sure he goes 5k between oil changes

[@FusionBoost2.0]

@@1mlb704 Tell him to trade it in, it's going to fail anyway

[@volvo09]

Just tell him to watch his oil usage, it starts fast and gets bad quick. Maintenance helps, but they still suck. If it's ok now it'll probably be using a lot of oil near 150k, where you need to add some or else it gets dangerous.

[@christianpullen2165]

In the UK when taking your driving test you will be asked the following, As part of your driving test you will be asked to explain how you would perform under the bonnet technical checks for oil, coolant, windscreen washer fluid and brake fluid. You will be asked to open the bonnet and show where you would check for each. So there is hope for the next generation of drivers.

[@Network126]

Bonnet 😂

[@bostonstrong1738]

Hey wizard, you saved me from a bad purchase on the range rover sport, thanks brother. The sonata is spot on I had 2012 sx optima with 79000 miles. And it drove great the first 5 miles from the dealership driveline. But when I got it home the engine had a light knock. Next day took it to the dealer repair. They said it was the gdi pump.........ok now I sold cars for Kia few years before. So that was b.s. anyway took it home and it drove normal. When I wanted to take my daughters out for ice cream. Not 3 miles from the house the engine knocked, squeeked and sized on i4 in Orlando. Me , wife and 3 girls on a interstate with no emergency lane. They are all garbage engines. It's like mass produced crap to keep supply up when they inevitably fail. Great story keep em comin 👏 👌

[@ricklodestein1101]

Just because a car is low on oil doesn't equate to lack of checking. It could be low due to many factors. I bought a car in Oregon. Checked fluids and drove it home. By the time I got it home it didn't register oil on the dipstick. Car drove perfectly fine! No warning lights. Nothing.. I was beyond impressed it survived without issues. I've since owned 14 of them. 98-2008 Crown Victoria's.

[@CCharlesHahn]

Used to be pretty common that every time you fill up the gas tank, you check the oil while the pump is running. I see barely anyone doing that anymore. That one simple habit could easily prevent situations like this. (Incidentally, this is a good argument for full-service gas stations to make a comeback; the attendant checks that stuff for you including topping off the washer fluid...)

[@MickeyMishra]

Equality! 🙂 There are articles about it in the the various MSM Rags that a certain section of the public would blame full service attendance for messing up their vehicle and then gas stations were held viable since they opened up the hood

[@bradnoyes7955]

@@MickeyMishra That plus components of gasoline are carcinogenic. It's not much of a problem with the exposure you get occasionally fueling your vehicle, but if you are exposed to it all day every day, it can be a problem.

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

12:42 this is the same problem with electronics repair. Most of the times it’s not repairable, and even if it is repairable, the parts cost will essentially end up costing as much as a good used unit, if not more

[@williamjones2350]

Common problem with Hyundai and Kia with the blown engines. I had to replace my engine and luckily it was covered by the recall. Changed oil regularly, checked it every Saturday morning, and the engine still went. The 2.0 liter turbo and the 2.4 are just bad engines. Hopefully, Hyundai and Kia will remedy this issue.

[@henlo1910]

I wouldn't hold my breath. They're still crapping out cars that blow engines early and they've known about the issue for a decade. They know what they're doing. If they can cheap out on manufacturing costs, and move enough volume, they can save money in the long run even with all the recalls and their 100k powertrain warranty. Techs only get paid 6 hours for replacing these engines and they're cheaply made so they can afford to throw you a couple new engines until your warranty runs out. You still paid upwards of 20k for the car that cost a fraction of that to slap together.

[@quackdracular7610]

​@@henlo1910Exactly! To manufacturers like Hyundai/Kia, it's the cost of doing business.

[@lushlagoonbomb901]

Are 1.6 liters non turbo engines good?

[@listeningtoreason5499]

No! Mine is blown. I’m at the bank forfeiting the junk right now. It’ll cost 2x the value of the car to repair it.

[@JKB3670]

Checking the oil is very good advice, I check mine weekly, and let everyone I know to do the same thing . As far as that car goes I hope it doesn't go to the junkyard. There are small car dealerships in Texas , they're called note lots. And they will sometimes buy cars like this , that don't run so good , and have their own in-house mechanic repair them, and then sell the car for double its value to people .

[@danstehler9062]

My wife had a ‘10 Kia forte with the 2.4 and it spun a main bearing at 107k. Dealer gave me similar quotes on short and long blocks. I ended up sticking a used motor with 65k in it for $850 and had it up and running in under 12 hours. We traded it in a couple months later on a new car for her.

[@bush_wookie_9606]

I work as a mechanic myself and have lots of work colleagues who don't even bother to check their levels, let alone maintain their vehicle.

[@calebniederhofer6529]

That has no relevance to this engine though. It is a manufacture defect, and causes catastrophic damage. Maintenance will not prevent it.

[@AI-qd4vb]

@@calebniederhofer6529 Well, this one last 120k miles while being terribly maintained. Tell us again how is it the engines fault

[@calebniederhofer6529]

@@AI-qd4vb You are arguing about something, that you clearly have not researched, or educated on. I already explained it in my comment. The motor will have catastrophic damage regardless. My buddy sold them , and owned a 16 2.4. He maintained his meticulously, and the motor knocked around a 110k. There was issues during the manufacturing process, causing metal shavings, and catastrophic failure to the crankshaft, and pistons.

[@jasonhsu4711]

WHAT? I'm shocked that there are mechanics who don't maintain their vehicles. If they were doctors or nurses, they'd smoke and eat excessive junk food. Oh, wait, there really are doctors and nurses out there who do that.

[@wirenut138]

I like the way you do business and not judge your customers. If I lived in the area I would definitely give you my business Mr Wizard. Carry on!

[@biggianthead17]

I love the way you ended this video... life gets in the way and let's not blame anyone. You're a good person, Wizard. Good bless you

[@dwadd7528]

blame Hyundai Hyundai engines are ALL JUNK. 😊

[@dfsdh432v9]

but dealer blamed owner for not checking oil. thats Hyundai warranty

[@biggianthead17]

@@dfsdh432v9 dealers will blame their own mothers just to make a buck. My brother in law is a dealer...enough said.

[@SpeedyHuskee]

For a car like this, I'd put a used low mile engine in it, change the timing set to the updated components immediately. After that, keep up on maintenance, and it should be fine. No need to junk a decent car. As you said - Nobody changes the oil, or stops when the lights come on. That's the main issue, even with crappy cars. Some inherently burn oil bad, but Once a week when filling up, checking the fluids would help to save the bottom end until it's fixed.

[@TheOzthewiz]

"Crappy cars", perfect description of a Hyundai/Kia!

[@elviscocho2374]

BS my Hyundai sotana always had oil did all the maintenance & that peace of shit broke down at 129k miles engines are trash

[@ChrisConley1]

He didnt wanna fix it and gas lit the customer then made a whole video to gaslight all of us too. There's plenty of places selling reman 2.4L engines for $4500

[@jimbob3030]

@@ChrisConley1 So you are saying a remanfuctured engine could have saved only $1000 off the bill, when you factor in the cost of all the labor and other parts and tax, and you think that should have made him want to spend more fixing it than it was worth?

[@ChrisConley1]

​@jimbob3030 it's worth about $12000. Probably more with a new engine.

[@jackhoek2811]

I had an engine replaced by Hyundai on an old sonata. The deal was the car had to "die" and they would check the" codes". I received a replacement engine and intake manifold with a lot of persistence.

[@Matt_from_Florida]

I was married for 17 years. After our divorce my wife bought a brand-new Toyota Corolla. The engine locked-up solid at *30-something thousand miles* as she never did ANY maintenance, including bothering to check or change the oil. I can't blame her 100% as I'd always done the maintenance on her car(s) when we were together. We remain amicable and she said the mechanic who installed a used engine told her that her dipstick didn't show the presence of any motor oil at all!

[@paulcarmi8130]

Brother, you can blame her for that all you want. Oil change=common sense.

[@Matt_from_Florida]

@@tooltime9260 What's the point of *ME* blaming her? She's already learned her lesson from it. She bought the car that she THOUGHT would require the least maintenance; a bone-stock, almost zero-option Corolla. Heck, it (1998 model year) even had the old 3spd automatic and manually winding windows!

[@Pkari]

@@Matt_from_Florida wow...how on earth does one kill a 98 Corolla! I think here in Germany they would take your license away for that :-D

[@realfloridaredneck1988]

I think a lot of this is happening because people don't know how to properly take care of their vehicle. Dealerships and oil change shops charge a pretty penny to change oil, when they could change their own oil for 1/3 of the price if they learn how to do it themselves. Takes less time than waiting on dealerships or oil change shops and they can change their oil at their own convenience. My grandpa told me when I was a kid "take care of your things and they will take care of you." That quote is especially true for vehicles. Learn basic vehicle maintenance (oil change, filter replacement, plugs and wire replacement), because it can save a lot of time and money.

[@karlhungus545]

Dead wrong. The 2.4L engine in Kia and Hyundais are junk, doesn't matter what you do.

[@SheRNB]

No this car is literally trash take it from someone who religiously has maintenance completed on time. Even after multiple repairs I'm still having issues

[@DigitalSubset]

@@SheRNB Maybe its hit or miss, mine has been reliable so far from 24k miles to 80k now. I did have to change the intake manifold runner but it was under warranty around 40k miles. I do oil changes every 3k miles

[@prakhar.29december]

One of the most sensible & fundamental video I have ever seen regarding Car ownership. I am from India and here, the awareness level of Car owners is even lower. They’ll just drive n drive for as long as the Car doesn’t cough then just become a sheep & drag their car to the mechanic who’ll either rip them off by doing cheap quality work or charge exorbitantly. Basic car care is extremely easy & accessible which can save a lot of money & trouble for the owners. Thanks for posting this video, please keep going with such videos that help in educating Car owners about the basics.

[@Land_Raver]

I learned long ago as a kid that if your oil light comes on, it's probably too late already. My goal was to never let that light come on. Never had an engine blow up or any other catastrophic damage.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

I change my 2020 Ecoboost Mustang oil when it says 30% which is like every 4 months and when I just checked this morning it was perfect on the upper of the 2 holes aka 100% where it needed to be... Which the light might turn on at 10% or even less butt I never want to test it.

[@mds2465]

Hyundai/Kia dealerships are notorious for doing that to customers! I see that all the time with them. And yes you're absolutely correct about those engines not being very well built to begin with. Another thing that was problematic on those cars was the timing belts. They were not well designed and they would fail prematurely, sometimes at 30k, and then they would snap and destroy the engine. Replacing or rebuilding it is not worth it because as you've said many times before "if you get into a wreck, insurance gives you the book value of the car and the rest is lit on fire, you burned all that money!" So yes I agree it's not worth it!

[@dougfisher1813]

As bad as Hyundai is, no manufacturer will honor recall or warranty on a maintenance neglected engine.

[@zabryant01]

This car doesn’t use a timing belt… Hyundai and Kia since at least 2011 all have been timing chains. Only the early and mid 2000s did (some) of them still use timing belts and those were the ones before the theta 2 engine. It’s all timing chain not belt and they don’t have issues with them. The only thing other than burning oil and outright failure they have is some 2015s had a issue (and this sonata in general) in some instances would throw a P0010 code which is the intake camshaft position actuator (E-CCVT) it’s very cheap, simple, easy fix and is literally on the right side of the engine block a seal goes bad and leaks oil into it and you can watch a KZbin video on it and anyone can order the part and replace it.

[@mds2465]

@@zabryant01 yeah I know that. It was the early 2000 year models that had premature timing belt failures

[@waltchan]

@@zabryant01 Theta I also uses a timing-chain. All Hyundai Sonatas 2.4L, since 2006, come with timing-chain.

[@beebong1]

First things first: Love the channel and the content! Secondly, regarding the Hyundai I have a few questions regarding the vehicle and the ownership: 1) Was this the original or subsequent owner? 2) Regarding the vehicle, was the vehicle maintenance records kept up to date? 3) Were they any records of any major services done (30K, 60K, 90K)? Here is the reason why I asked these questions: I purchased a 2012 Kia Optima with 88K miles on it. Since I am a subsequent owner, I had no idea what type of maintenance the vehicle had. I stated off with my 90K service (more on that in a minute), replaced the spark plugs at 100K, transmission service as well as other services completed to keep this response short. I had all my work done at a Kia dealership. 30K miles later, my engine had a catastrophic failure. Within 10 days I had my engine replaced. Why? Because the dealer has ALL my receipts. It is the FIRST thing Kia/Hyundai will look for when it comes to an engine replacement, but especially on the 2.4L Theta II which is what the engine in your video had. One of the things in the major service is the fuel service. As you know in a GDI engine, carbon deposits are left in the combustion chamber. Over time, it will make the engine sluggish and the driver will notice reduce performance. In my estimation, this should be mandatory for all Kia/Hyundai owners, especially with the Theta II engines every 30K miles. Having this done in concert with scheduled oil changes (5K miles or 6 months if the shop uses synthetic oil) should prolong the life of the engine. Lastly, to all Kia/Hyundai owners KEEP ALL YOUR RECEIPTS! This is where the corporation will get you on a "technicality" because you didn't live up to your end of the "contract" by having service done in a timely manner and "abuse" was found. If you can afford to get your service done at a dealership, do it. If, not save every receipt that you have spent on the vehicle, because they will be called into question. Keep making your "car wizardry" that I see you do in every video. I am a fan! 😊

[@TheLifetraveler1]

I had an absolutely gorgeous red 2016 Hyundai sonata. Ran flawlessly with no problems. However because of the theta issues that I heard so much about, and the car was prone to be installing because of the social media foolishness. I finally sold it sadly last week. I miss that car but replaced it with a 2020 Honda Accord. Which immediately made me happy after it got 46 mi to the gallon compared to the sonata getting 33 milesvt9 the gallon.

[@thesultan4030]

My neighbour has a '14 Accord, she blew up the engine by not checking or changing the oil. It only had 135,000 KMs (83,000 miles). I work for a big fleet cab company which has good junkyard connections and it's own commercial garage. I was able to get her a used engine (low mileage,one year warranty) for $900 and get it installed for $1000. It's still running perfect a year later. I suspect she's still not being vigilant with the oil checking,lol.

[@briangil2163]

Hi Wizard - I sold 5 years ago a 2008 Kia Sedona with the 3.8 L at 110,000 miles to a neighbor who still drives it today. I don't know the mileage, but I see him zippin around in it all the time. When I had it, she lived on full syn oil - changes never went beyond 7000 miles, NEVER ran low, and it ran very well. Thanks

[@squirrel8296]

Those Hyundai 2.4l engines are well known for super excessive oil consumption. Unless they were checking the oil every single gas fill up and topping the oil off every single time chances are they would have ended with the exact same result at some point anyway.

[@Scypher0th]

its not just the 2.4....its there entire 4cyl line up

[@atx-cvpi_99]

These engines fail left and right. I’ve even heard that they failed even when properly maintained. Another engine that is known for excessive oil consumption is the GM 2.4 EcoTec with GDI, BMW N63, VW 1.8 and 2.0 TSI, Subaru EA and EB series, and the 2018 and newer Ford 5.0 V8. Hyundai/KIA, Fiat, and Subaru are the most common engines that catastrophically fail today.

[@atx-cvpi_99]

@@Scypher0th and some of their V6 engines as well.

[@md2k8]

@@atx-cvpi_99 Agreed

[@kskate91]

I’ve been lucky with my 2014 Hyundai accent and I rebuilt my engine here in SoCal Los Angeles there was many shops that would do it and I pulled it out of the car and took it in to a shop it was done in a week and it’s a been a year since the rebuild and still running like a champ took the car to Yosemite and back to la no problem

[@holicanoli123]

When I worked at Hyundai, around half of the lease returns still had the first oil change sticker. It was right there on the windshield, so the owners definitely see, but just don’t care if the next owner gets screwed. These are reliable, long-lasting cars for people who buy new and maintain them, but they don’t hold up to abuse and neglect.

[@tails300]

These cars are trash 🚮🗑️.

[@MrSloika]

Back in the 80s a friend of mine worked at a shop where his older brother was the lead tech. One day my friend's brother walked him over to a 2-3 year old Corolla with a seized engine. My friend's brother informed him the car had a seized engine and asked him to look under the hood for 'something obvious'. My friend was stumped. My friend's brother directed his attention to the oil filter. Again my friend was stumped. At that point his brother said to him, 'That's the original factory oil filter, I don't think this car ever had an oil change.' When they called the woman who owned the car and asked her if she ever had the oil changed she replied, "Oh, no. I'm not falling for that dealer trick."

[@brayannexon4613]

@@MrSloikapeak women ☕ ☕

[@RJT80]

These are nice mid sized sedans. Just as nice as a Camry and more spacious but the engine burns oil and with time it starts burning ridiculous amounts of oil. My mother's 2016 Sonata was burning 2 qts a month over 500 miles or less. So if you check it one every two weeks and top it off you should be good. But as someone whose first job was at Jiffy lube 25 years ago, this trend of new engine burning oil like this is going backwards. With the oil and filter quality now they just shouldn't be burning 2-3 quarts so quickly.

[@lancenorton1117]

@@RJT80 My 2015 GTI with 168,000 plus miles was using about a half quart of oil per 4,000 miles. However the timing chain tensioners were going bad and that would be at least $1500 to repair. The repair shop told me that the mileage I had on the car was right around the point where Volkswagen's start failing one part at a time till you have bought a new car one part at a time.

[@joksal9108]

Always good info from the Wizard, and nice not to charge them. They already have a big issue to deal with, with a mechanically totaled ride.

[@Itstime2029]

Wizard wouldn’t be in business long, not charging for his work

[@bmichelin1574]

With all those foreigns he’s got in his garage Im sure he can afford to give these lovely people a break.

[@arvbergstedt3303]

I’m

[@bmichelin1574]

@@arvbergstedt3303 your fucking hilarious

[@FrankySilverFace]

@@bmichelin1574 ima seein sarcasm right here yo

[@bamcintosh1]

On top of needing to change oil regularly, you must keep those service records! If that car was brought to the dealer with regular maintenance records and with the known consumption issue, it most likely would have been paid by warranty. I've seen them replaced many times well over the 100k mile mark when the owner can show they did their part.

[@donc6781]

But they replace it with the same crappy motor

[@bamcintosh1]

@@donc6781 that if maintained will easily run them 100k miles. Not sure of other manufacturers that will do this but, maybe I'm wrong.

[@spicysnowman8886]

@@bamcintosh1 an engine should be just breaking in by 100k miles, especially one as simple and non-stressed at that one. My bmw has 125k miles and is still just as smooth at 7k rpms as it is at 2k.

[@ghenkhoash2440]

@@donc6781 Those new engines are redesigned and don't have the same issues. And I'm 100% sure lack of maintenance killed this one.

[@heatherviggiani8499]

My 2013 sonata did the same thing last year, low oil, running out before my oil change, and the engine siezed on me last may. A few months after I had the dealership do an oil consumption test and tell me it was fine. At 125,000 miles hyundai ended up replacing my motor for free through the recall and paid for my rental while in the shop. Here today looking for a eps fix now 🤦‍♀️

[@walterzoomie]

A year ago I was needing to replace two VERY worn out vehicles. I looked at all Asian imports, and decided to go with Toyota. I am reminded of my wise decision every day. Hyundai/Kia engine/transmission failures are design features.

[@medeirosm90]

The sad thing about Hyundai is they not built to last my mom bought a 2011 brand new and ended up getting rid of it because of too many issues then she ended up getting a 2015 which only lasted her eight years then the motor crapped out It’s amazing that these cars are still being sold with all the problems they have.

[@tomchanter62]

Yes, it does seem that the owner did not keep up on maintenance. However, these engines are known to consume oil - which increases the risk of self-destruction and makes them very unforgiving to any neglect. I would not purchase a used Sonata - since the engines are seemingly fragile - I would not want to risk another time bomb. Also, at least in my area, it might be hard to get insurance on this car, as they are very popular to steal. As always, your knowledge and wisdom excel!!

[@roadeagle]

had the same issue with my Sonata. The story is if the car was made in Alabama, there was an issue with spinning bearings. Hyundai dealers do not want to do the repair because they are tying up a lane for days. No money to be made from a recall with Hyundai. I flipped it and got another brand, even though we have three Hyundai's. Time for change that will hurt them in the long run.

[@danielhartin7680]

A real shame. I own a 2016 Sonata, with the 2.4. Bought new as a demo, about 4K miles on it then. Now still low mileage, about 45K. Never been in a collision of any kind. The very best car I've ever owned, and I'm 65 years old. Have faithfully changed the oil every 3K. The only issue I've noticed since buying it is the oil darkens very quickly after each change, not sure what to make of that.

[@highbrass7563]

I suggest you only use a high quality synthetic oil

[@murasakifjc]

It’s normal for the oil to get dark quickly.

[@ksignedoff]

It's normal sir, no need to worry about the color of the oil.

[@whozaskin3639]

Run amsoil until you can get something else. Dealt with several Kia/Hyundai cars....junk. can't beat a Camry lol

[@kurtjammer9568]

Shouldn't darken much between changes..if it does..that's increasing blowby

[@brycefrazier8173]

I had a Hyundai Elantra GT. I drove mostly on the interstate, performed normal maintenance and sold it with 140,000 miles on it. It still had the original brakes that did not need replacing!

[@mojoman77100]

From my own experience it is also beneficial to keep up to date on recalls and other information provided by the dealer. My 2016 KIA had a catastrophic engine failure but it was covered as I had responded to all of the service requests and customer alerts from KIA. KIA has also committed to reimbursement for my towing and rental expenses during the time my engine was replaced. So far the new engine is running fine and has a warranty extension to 100,000 miles. I have not read the fine print on the warranty extension.

[@jon199680]

This is why it's so risky to buy a used car. You don't know if the last owner took care of it or totally neglected it. I'm not a car guy myself, but I'm a stickler about matinence being done on time.

[@nakiapollard4093]

I unfortunately bought I car that I found out was abused they drove it around without a oil change

[@inkydoug]

Piston rings that don't grip the cylinder bores as tight result in less friction, and thus better fuel mileage, but that also lets a little more oil into the combustion chamber, so you'll see the oil go down on the dipstick between changes, and need to top 'er up. Possibly that's something that needs to be printed on the dashboard.

[@jimmyaber5920]

The low tension rings seal the low tension means that longer oil change interval and vehicle use that pushes sludge build up leads to oil deposits in the groove the ring fits in piston. the low spring tension of rings is not enough for the rings to push free from sticking, THEN they don't seal and burn oil. This is true of most every brand for some of their engines. Money saved by lengthening oil change interval Never pays off if you own the vehicle beyond 100 k miles.

[@fibonaccisequence2891]

It's all to meet CAFE polution and emissions demands, build car with almost 200hp that uses 30mpg or more, reduce frictions by using thin oils and don't forget required changes on 10000 plus miles because of environmental problems, now they even reduce amount of cylinders and add more power because of amount of turbos they hook up, and when I get with someone in disagreement about technical problems, they justify how Rally cars are usually have same set ups and they run great. Yes that's correct but they are built only for one race, or one event and bye, bye, they will be going to get overhauled or disposed, not to be used for 10 plus years and 200000 plus miles.

[@taralholden4696]

My daughter is going through this right now. The oil was low but the dealer couldn’t say anything because they had just changed it. There is a recall of sorts. You have to jump through their hoops to get anything done. 08/15/24--Hyundai replaced my daughters’ motor, at no cost.

[@colinwood8998]

I had a Hyundai with one of those engines. Mine burned crazy amounts of oil. I check my oil regularly and it was very difficult to keep it topped up and it used expensive oil too. I always made sure the oil was filled up before taking it in for service. Eventually sold it to Vroom for way more than it was worth. A guy I know at work did the dealer warranty engine replacement and didn’t get his car back for 6 months. I’d stay away from Hyundais personally. It was an ok car otherwise but that’s about it.

[@TheRealCatof]

Would be nice to get a loaner to abuse for 6 months

[@kyleansley]

Just had the same scenario with my cousins 2014 Kia Soul. I advised them so send it to the junk yard. Their scenario was a little different, they drove it from Texas to Florida with a stopped up Catalytic converter. In most other cars that would not be an issue but they apparently had a Recall for that car.

[@timgibney5590]

I own that exact car and it makes me nervous. Mine was stolen so it was replaced last year so no worry about that recall. I now have synthetic oil in it as the engine is now

[@asdewq9683]

My mom had a 2016 Kia Optima and the engine caught fire on the highway driving to p.a from nyc and they told her it was her they couldn’t pay cuz it was to much damage to determine where the fire started even tho that engine was recalled and they gave it back to her a few weeks before saying it was fine

[@fffwe3876]

The engine blew on my 2016 Kia Sorrento I got it back a week ago

[@disneyfan9099]

@@fffwe3876 Well yeah it’s a 2016 lol

[@disneyfan9099]

Yeah that car is worth nothing

[@eugenelove874]

My 2011 Hyundai engine locked up at 120,00 miles. I always change the oil and check ✅. It was covered under the recall. Got a new engine ❤

[@kentuckyboy541]

Car wizard is a solid guy. Wish he was near me. He'd definitely be my mechanic. Honest, knowledgeable and trustworthy. Hard to find in this business.

[@jackdough8164]

I have the opposite problem with mine. He’s too honest and has the old school mentality of don’t fix it till it’s broken. Trying to get him to take my money can be a fight sometimes lol. He doesn’t get that I spend a lot of time in the middle of nowhere and would rather have something fixed beforehand rather than have it go on me on the side of the road. And it’s not like I’m trying to waste money. I just want my car to not break since it’s old lol

[@michaelcrockette8694]

hard 2 get an accurate reading if ur checking at the gas station because the car has just been running. oil should b checked on a cold engine while all of the oil is in the pan.

[@markneukirch577]

This video may have saved me a ton of money. Currently looking for a gas saver under 10k. Been avoiding CVT'S and now I'll add this engine to the list. Sounds like they're dropping like flys. Really starting to lean towards a older Buick with the 3800 V6 and just pay for a little more gas. Just aren't many of them left in good shape and lower miles.

[@skryptec]

The Mazda 2.5L skyactive engines are very solid. When my camaro was totaled out I spent a week shopping and researching. Ended up deciding that based on price, performance, reliability, and trim that Mazda is a great value alternative to the higher cost options such as Lexus, Toyota, Honda. Toyota even owns 20% of Mazda and has a partnership with them. I got a Mazda3 NA 2.5L with an automatic 6 speed. All models of Mazda use the same 2.5L. Just determine if you want a car, SUV or hatchback. Then if you want/need Turbo, AWD or Manual and go from there. I went from 20MPG V6 to almost 40MPG i4.

[@jordanstark2454]

Cvt in my prius has been solid

[@alexl1820]

@@skryptec thats funny. After i had enough of my 2012 Ford Mondeo mk4 2.2 tdci (All kind of electrical problems, the dpf not working well, check engine light on dashboard. Problems to lock/unlock the doors i said to my wife we have to get rid of this car. I started to search for a new car and long story short i wanted a Japanese car for its reliability. So found a Mazda 6 2014 model with 2.5 petrol engine without turbo,( less that can break)automatic transmission. And so far after a month i am really happy. So nice and well built car. Only has 90.000 km on the dash and everything works well. Only one previous owner, all the maintenance made every year. Time will tell if it was a good choice. Greatings from Sweden 🙂

[@Tigerwarhawk]

The Toyota CVTs are very good. Change the fluid every 50-60,000 miles, and don't use the car as a race vehicle 😉

[@ssz28envy]

I bought a 13 Passat with the 2.5 in April of 21. 72k miles, one owner, dealer serviced the entire time. $8800. I get about 26 mpg on mixed driving with a very heavy foot. When I got it I changed the plugs, all filters, and all fluids just to be sure. I have had zero problems out of it, plus it's so big inside.

[@DavidVegas-n7z]

I bought my 2015 hyundai sonata brand new and changed the oil every 4k miles including trans oil every 30,000 miles. Im at 256k miles and its still running as strong as it was the day i rolled it off the lot. Only issue i had was battery and starter and replace cv boot. Love my sonota. ❤

[@PascalSaucer]

Something that the dealer will omit to tell customers on these engines is that not only do they have rod bearing failures, but they also have oil consumption issues. They (the manufacturer) have said that a normal running engine can burn up to one quart of oil in 1,000 miles, which I believe is one quart too many. So you have a dealer performing 5,000, 7500, 10,000 mile oil change intervals, but you will not have enough oil in the crankcase to even make it to your next service.

[@TheOzthewiz]

It is STILL customers' responsibility to check oil level at EVERY fill-up!

[@samtatge8299]

My first car was a ‘66 vw bug in 1978. Keeping an eye on the oil was a way of life. I’m still in the habit.

[@Electra225]

What a shame about the situation on this car. I have two Hyundais and have had good luck with both....because I kept up with regular maintenance and fixed things that needed fixing when appropriate. The 2009 I still have and everything still works on it. It is a second car and has served me well. Yes, set a regular routine up to check your fluids and see what is going on. Oil lights coming on usually means it is too late. For me, have a reliable car to get to work was just as important as the other priorities in life.

[@daveisdead]

Agree. Hyundai might not be the best but if you keep up with the maintenance then it should last you a while. My old Hyundai had 267k miles and original engine and transmission

[@roylindsey7030]

Love your honest reviews and car repairs. I have 2022 Kia Sportage EX with a 2.4 and every time I see or hear about a engine problem with a Hyundai or Kia I almost get sick. These are not expensive cars by todays average car prices but they aren't cheap either and 25k for a car should guarantee a little reliability. I am frantic about checking/changing my oil and listening to how the car sounds. Most vehicles I've owned last 10-15 years and I'm still driving a 99 Chevy Blazer. I just hope my Kia will last half that long.

[@mhtube01]

This car definitely looks like it was lost to lack of maintenance but even well maintained Hyundai and Kia vehicles built within the last 11-12 years don't always hold up well. The dealers have crazy stock of these motors because they are notorious for oil consumption. As I'm sure you've heard, Hyundai has been facing lawsuits and doing countless engine replacements under warranty for years now. I work at a shop myself and we literally have some customers who come in with these cars to have their oil checked and possibly topped off every 700-1000 miles. (And by topped off I mean a quart or more of oil put in) This year alone we've had two Kia Optimas and one Soul come in with knocking engines, all 3 were less than 10 years old, had less than 100k miles on them, and were owned by people with pretty decent service records. It's not just these 2.4l engines but most of their 4 cylinders. They really need to get their act together because if that's not an example of unacceptable build quality, I don't know what is.

[@TheOzthewiz]

The 2.4L "theta II" is a HORRIBLE engine!

[@nobatteriesincluded3968]

This video has priceless information something so small can turn into such a huge issue,checking our car’s oil should be on our smartphones reminder list at least once a month great content 💯

[@spacepope-1]

Every other fueling should be the rule of thumb

[@donc6781]

This has nothing to do with checking oil. This is about a horrible motor that was used many Hyundais & Kia’s

[@Dozenfury88]

Unfortunately this is fairly common. Young drivers usually with little money for oil changes and busy with dating, school, work, etc. don't remember to check. The other scenario that happens is something breaks like a water pump or a rock hits the oil pan and leaks and they keep driving, and next thing the engine's toast. And because of the cost involved it's often parents that end up having to foot the expense to get them back in a running car, so no one's happy. Even if a parent mentioned the importance of checking it when helping them learn to drive, it's a prevalent enough problem to be a pest about reminding to make sure it is being done.

[@DaPepster]

This 2.4 GDI engine is very problematic for Hyundai right now. My sister's 2015 Sonata's engine just grenaded back in August at 67k miles and was covered under warranty, but she had to wait over 7 months for it to get it fixed because the dealership had a huge list of 50+ cars of identical vehicles that also needed engines and the dealer was waiting for a bunch of them to be shipped from South Korea.

[@donalddube3359]

Lesson learned. Always double check, bring even your car to your local mechanic to make sure they checked everything that a dealer will use to avoid warranty.

[@TakuroSpirit77]

Dealers aren't going to commit warranty fraud against the manufacturer just because Becky doesn't know how to check her oil.... This is on her.

[@donalddube3359]

@@TakuroSpirit77 I worked at a dealership i know this game. If the dealer was honest they would try to understand why the oil level is low. Did she miss an oil change? Is it leaking? Is it burning oil? If she did not miss oil change the level should be fine. If it was leaking oil, she would see that in her driveway and bring it to repair shop. From that perspective, this car is probably burning oil, means bad engine, toyota has replaced alot of engines under warranty for excessive oil consumption. The dealer and car manufacturers do everything possible to cover their a** and avoid warranty work, consumers should play that game two!

[@jackdough8164]

Thank you for videos about newer lemon cars. It makes me feel better about my 2011 escape with 200k and still runs great. I often curse and swear at it about the lack of quality in some ways but at least it’s not this bad lol

[@Benz242]

You got a good one..... Ford also never had good luck with them myself but seen a lot of good ones.....

[@jackdough8164]

@@Benz242 lol what do you mean? The second gen escape, 2009-2012 specifically since the 08 still uses the old engine and transmission are known to go to 500k if you don’t let them rust away. They’ve held their value well too. When I was looking for this used they were all around 7 grand for low kms, yet the explorer of a similar age and mileage was like 1500 bucks lol. The biggest selling point to these is the Mazda engineering/influence on them lol. And the 2.5 Mazda engine runs forever although I’ve not heard much bad about the 3.0 Ford V6. Don’t get me wrong though I wouldn’t generally buy any Ford. The quality of some of the stuff on this is questionable but easy and cheap to fix at least. And I won’t even get started on how ridiculous it is they don’t have a recall on all of these for the power steering issues. I’m a 6’2 200lb relatively fit guy and when mine went I had to use all my body weight and strength to turn the wheel. Definitely a danger to someone who doesn’t have my level of strength. But yea I’d defo recommend doing the research before buying any Ford. And nowadays they all come with ecoburst engines that are absolutely shit

[@jackdough8164]

@@Benz242 sorry for the rant lol. Didn’t plan on it being that long

[@Dailyfiver]

I just want to say I honestly look up to you Car Wizard. You’re such an honest guy who truly cares about others. On top of that you really know your craft.

[@spywell6970]

He is really doing this customer wrong right here though. Hyundai will replace the engine, the engine must completely seize first. Him not knowing that is going to cost his customer 10k and his credibility suffers.

[@Dailyfiver]

@@spywell6970 they already denied the customer a replacement engine because he didn’t change the oil on time and they used that as an excuse to not count it under warranty. That was stated in the video. The Wizard knows what he’s doing more than any of us that’s for sure. He owns a shop dude.

[@spywell6970]

@Drew Dobransky no, first hyundai denies everyone, I got denied and now I have a brand new engine. Second, nobody gets denied over oil change history, they tried this with me and a few other people but in the end after the engine locks up it gets replaced through the lifetime warranty. Third, think about it, if you have an engine so bad that it only lasts 100k, and you are required to replace it, are you going to replace it at the very first sign or wait as long as possible? Hyundai will NOT replace the engine until it seizes. In my case they got an extra 25k miles out of my dying engine which might help them save money in the long run when they got to do it again.

[@Dailyfiver]

@@spywell6970 well just because you were able to get them to replace it doesn’t mean everyone can. I’m sure there’s more to the story than car Wizard even knows.

[@spywell6970]

@Drew Dobransky this car looks good, so as long as it has recalls done and not a salvage title it will get the engine replaced. Hell I'm half tempted to visit this guy. I pass his shop regularly and didn't even know it. The issue is, he doesn't know anything about these engines, or the way hyundai manages this and he seen low oil and the denial from hyundai and rode with it throwing the client under the bus. He is wrong and I'm so confident of that, I'm willing to buy the car and get the engine replaced for free to prove it.

[@normbyeyou]

First and foremost I love your Channel. I just did a quick Google search for this exact make and model and found many long blocks available. Some were used somewhere remanufactured some were brand new. Typically the most affordable route in this situation is swapping long block for long block. I believe with the inventory available you could have completed this job for around the 5500 to 6000 maximum mark. I am not discrediting the flaws that you have pointed out with this motor but just based on my quick search and your labor rate I think it could have very easily been done. This is coming from someone who has replaced two long blocks in the past 2 years

[@christopherkraft1327]

Hey Wizard & Mrs Wizard, Happy Super Bowl Sunday!!!! Thanks for sharing another interesting video, I really enjoy your channel, it's great to see a shop that's honest & has integrity & does good work!!! Go Chiefs!!!! 👍👍🙂🏈

[@JeffDodge]

My 2011 Sonata had what I presume was the same recall. They said it was a "manufacturing process defect". It checked out OK by the dealer under the recall at 100k and I then sold it to a guy at work. About a year later, he said the engine died & Hyundai put a short block in. Completely unforgivable that 5-years later those engines had what appears to be the same problem.

[@DA-br9xd]

Same. Had a 2011 Sonata. Engine had oil changed religiously with full synthetic. Engine seized at 110,000 miles. Dealer replaced short block at no charge. Immediately sold the car after engine was replaced.

[@paulkuras18]

Thanks wizard for adding in not bashing them because some people either don’t know or they’re too busy well said my friend

[@cedricjackson7521]

You are absolutely correct Mr. Wizard all it takes is a couple of minutes periodically just to check the dipstick

[@fffwe3876]

KIA engines burns OIL at much higher rate. nightmare/