Renault Zoe review - the best value for money EV in 2020!

[@carwow]

So would you choose the new Zoe over the Peugeot e208 or MINI Electric?!

[@gamingwraith]

Helllll noooo 😂😂😂

[@shahsheriff]

Laferrari vs mclaren p1 drag race please!!

[@shahsheriff]

Laferrari vs mclaren p1 drag race please!!

[@oluthandoxolo6090]

Mini electric

[@Mark__A]

Non of them thanks, I had a Zoe it was a nightmare.

[@ampfromiisy]

Drag race: Mat and Yianni e scooter.

[@mega8726]

😂

[@tara-seemyvideoplaywithmyt1028]

🧡💕

[@intergalacticsucker1724]

Should be easy win for Mat in breaking test

[@PrinceaIIy]

The amount of bots here upsets me.

[@Cheese-oi4gx]

Bruh I support that all the way

[@sushi777300]

Drove it over the weekend and did over 500km with it Gotta say that it's a fun little ride and feels quite spacious in the front Could definitely imagine driving it on a daily basis

[@DavidHughes-op6zl]

I bought a new Zoe last year and for the most part, except for the satnav shortcomings, I love it. Its range is generous, the ride compliant, seats comfortable and in my opinion the design, remarkably still fresh and modern looking despite being unaltered since introduction, graceful and elegant from every angle - a big selling point for me. No surprise that for a very long time it's been the best selling BEV in France. (Being a card-carrying technophobe all I now have to do - and I'm serious - is discover how to switch the radio on. Modern cars are so complex. On the move my last vehicle had to be legally accompanied in front by a man at walking pace waving a red flag.)

[@chrisogrady28]

Mat just bought an electric scooter and needed to do something with it on video so he can claim it as a business expense 😂

[@FormulaWhine]

@5:18 my ten year old Renault Laguna has the cruise control buttons on the steering wheel, and Renault's audio controls are among the best and most intuitive in the industry that you don't need to look to see what you're doing - that's why they haven't changed the design since the early 80s. Sometimes, it just needs leaving as is...

[@J0nny61]

I'm driving the top of the range version of this car, it's a 2020 model ZE50, until my Megane E-Tech arrives next week. I think it's brilliant, I'm a big bloke and have found it comfortable, the handling is fine, but I'm not a hooligan. The boot is huge for a little hatchback apart from the sub woofer takes up a bit of space in the boot. The infotainment system is better than any other car I've used, that includes a BMW330E, Audi E-Tron, VW ID4 and a Hyundai Kona Electric. I agree with all Matt's negatives, but the positives far out weigh them. I was astounded that I could do 200 miles on the motorway in eco mode. No doubt you could knock 50 miles off that in the winter. A really good practical car IMHO.

[@jimmy2die]

Isn't it time for reversing cameras to come as standard?

[@nielskolder6434]

Nha i dont need the camera's and it saves me a lot of money on the car. The base price would go up if they include the camera's. I can see why they are not standard.

[@athl0n]

@@nielskolder6434 The cost of a 720p camera with cables is what? 5€ max? And do I really care if the price will be 5€ more for a car that is already over 24K€?

[@AniviaS]

@@athl0n The cameras are actually not that cheap. They can't just use cheap camera sensors because the camera needs to be able to work properly in the dark, without too much noise

[@athl0n]

@@AniviaS Let's take the worst case scenario and say the manufacturer is gonna use the flagship smartphone level camera - the Google Pixel 3 camera module is 20€. It has a fantastic night time performance, one of the best in the market, and can record in 4K (imagine 4K reversing camera) - a total overkill. The cost of cables to connect them from the back of the car, all the way to the infotainment system will be what? Not even 10€. Do I really care if the car's price will be lifted from 24,650€ to 24,680€ for a feature that I'm gonna use everyday and is legitimately handy? A little more than 0.1% of the car overall value?

[@CryinOwl]

The Citroen c1 and Peugeot 108 gave you camera and the car is cheap as chips. Good quality camera too. All affordable.

[@jayakrishnabiju16]

even though i dont't like the car i watch it because i love the way mat explains everything

[@piotrceglinski1555]

I'm waiting for the day when after reviewing a car Matt will say: definitely avoid... These car reviews are all getting too nice... All of them just buy or shortlist...

[@Sartheris]

no kidding, "carwow avoid cars" is actually a popular search query

[@martinmaier4789]

Hyundai Kona

To be fair in a sea of cars that are the same, it's quite hard to find a really terrible terrible car...

[@bign3ck]

Most cars are competent enough nowadays, and price is also a factor.

[@mochannel25]

Most cars are just pretty good these days.

[@34psbolide]

Audio Controls behind the steering is perfect! Better than anything else. Total intuitive.

[@LeonZaneFigueira]

“It doesn’t look much more modern than before” you okay my Zoe from 2019 looks like it belongs in 2007

[@capetowncoffee]

As a owner of many renaults over the years, the audio controls are 100% logical once you've owned the car for a while. You shouldn't have to look at the steering wheel controls anyways for the other functions, so why would you for the audio?

[@iikde38]

When is the ID.3 review coming? 👀

[@davewsh8434]

One day it will

[@honza2755]

No soft touch plastic there )-:

[@jojodroid31]

Doesn't matter when the journalist doesn't even know the unit of power. Ah yes, a 52 kilowatts battery. So converted to hp that is a 69 horsepower battery. Facepalm. Matt, get another job

[@mrjoe12345]

Werner Definitely agree with you on this one. You don’t even need to know anything about EVs in particular because this is just basic physics (and Matt‘s statement was simply lacking logic). Some people should really think about what they want to say before they do!

[@MotorTorq_ZA]

It will come when it comes

[@thehelperofthepeopledems2525]

It’s crazy how none of us are interested in the cars we can actually afford 😩

[@FrozenDung]

This is more interesting than am Audi RS6 or a McLaren because 99.9999% of people will never afford those. Cars like this you can afford and actually buy.

[@mattcc9435]

I still think its crazy that this tiny car costs 30K..cost of batteries have come down massively so there's no excuse for an electric car to be so much more expensive than a ICE

[@Noah-gv6zj]

I feel so called out! 🤣

[@yosyp5905]

@@mattcc9435 you're not factoring it costs half to operate and maintain. if you have a PV array, it can actually cost 0€/km. you can't have that on ICE I just bought my mid-range Zoe for 25.5k€, battery included. I think it's a good financial move for long term usage.

[@TroyHR123]

@@mattcc9435 cars are more than the sum of its parts development costs are huge for an entirely new power train, electrical systems, software and auxiliary devices (windows wipers/HVAC systems) in some cases all need to be redeveloped. It's still early days for electric cars, early adopters tax is still being applied.

[@TheXLuuk]

About the media control stick behind the steering wheel. It's actually very natural once you get used to it. Since it has like 2 buttons for volume, a knob for switching stations/tracks and 2 buttons for call accept and switch mode it's actually quite good (tried in Clio gt 2012 and Clio rs line 2019)

[@johnyboy780]

4:47 Matt listening to Trap Queen got me there

[@leesmith9299]

0% to 100% charge time is really not the relevent stat to keep giving. Going above 80% when charging on route is just silly in most cases.

[@Groaznic]

Also you wouldn't drive to 0%, so 20-80% is more realistic info to give, which on CCS would be 40 min, and on Type 2 would be 1,5 h.

[@Errhhk]

Idk man usually when I’m at 80 and road tripping, it’s not that big a deal for me to wait a bit more to get an extra 20 in

[@simonyapp]

Totally agree! Please DON’T give 0 to 100 time. No one fills a petrol car from bone dry!!

[@Muskar2]

I think 10-80% is more relevant, but I also think the Zoe is a car that requires planning to take longer road trips in, like with the ABRP app or similar. It still charges too slowly to not be a compromise over ICE equivalents, and I'm guessing they didn't improve the built in navigation enough over the ZE 40 to rely on it for charge planning.

[@mediacc8372]

true

[@derekholcroft]

Your wrong about the gear selector, you don't need park as it has an automatic hold next to the electronic parking brake. This works well at traffic lights and the parking brake comes on automatically when you stop the car at the end of your journey.

[@revmedia8108]

Me: I want a new S-Class review! Matt: Renault Zoe? All jokes! From your friends at Rev Media!

[@businessexplained9578]

Ahahahah good one!!

[@antwnpowell]

You forgot to mention that the zoe has 22 kWh type 2 ac charging, so you are not stuck to finding ccs chargers that work. Nearly every public charger in france, Spain & Ireland offers this feature. Wish my zoe had this.

[@ashleybailey1785]

I'm getting one next year, maybe. I was going to get a 2019 model but then this beauty got announced. To say I'm excited is an understatement. Great review btw, as always!

[@anothertesla7284]

Be sure it’s what you want. I had one and after a few days you begin to discover just how cheap it is. Range is good but the car itself is pretty garbage to be honest.

[@stickygaiden]

@@anothertesla7284 I had one and I Disagree, they are ok for what you paid for. It has more than 265000km without a single fault. And his size for the City is the best.

[@arthemis1039]

@@anothertesla7284 I have driven one in rental and it was a very pleasing experience, especially when coming from cheap ICE like my 2009 VW Polo. I understand however that the level of finition is not on pair with many cars of the same price however, although hard plastic is so common

[@Groaznic]

@Ashley Bailey, I fully support you, Fiesta ST ex-owner here, was also looking at the previous gen Zoe for years, and this new gen looked good enough to actually go for it, drove 3300 km since buying it and it's a dream to switch away from gas engines (although I dearly miss the ST's noise and suspension). The Zoe 135 hp motor has decent punch, you can always get some smiles out of it although the suspension is not sporty.

[@e-tradeglobal]

Did you buy one?

[@subscribetomeoriwillstealy2568]

Me: *opens phone* Mat not even 0.0000001 seconds later: *get a load of this hot hatch*

[@parassinghwadhwa9405]

Hot hatch😂😂😂

[@MrJDH5]

What kind of car doesn’t have height adjustment for the drivers seat?!? It’s a 30k car for goodness sake

[@XzzVttll]

an electric one. you pay 30k for new technology, not the comfort or gadgets

[@tarikajvazi9066]

For 30k, I would rather buy a new vw t roc or an used Audi Q5. Its much better

[@mediacc8372]

not 30k, but 29 449£

[@Rhaman68]

Do most car models in Europe have this feature, electric, petrol/diesel?

[@maczetamaczeta189]

@@tarikajvazi9066 "For 30k, I would rather buy a new vw t roc" And you definitely should do that. But if for some reason you want electric OR live in a Norway and soon will be without other options, you're going to pay 30k for car without height adjustment or 60k for car that have all you are used to from normal cars.

[@georgelewis6410]

mat :five anoying things about this car me in my head : wasnt the whole review about anoying things about the car

[@rustyjoints4857]

Hi Mat, interesting review but nitpicking a little I think. Regarding not having 'park mode' - not really needed because of the 'auto brake hold' function when you come to a stop, handbrake will then turn on after a period of time if you haven't set off again. Glove box is a little small but I suppose it's called a glove box for a reason. We put the cars manual etc in the seat pocket, and no, nothing falls out when turning corners! You can purchase boot underfloor storage, if you're lucky the dealer might throw one in for you. To be honest we haven't had any issues accessing things in there without one. Infortainment screen is super easy to use and has the best satnav out of the bunch in my opinion, and will even search for nearest charge points if you need one. Overall the best all rounder as a Fiesta sized replacement. Completely happy with ours.

[@jmsmaster1]

Matt - “It’s not all negative though..." Me - "Yes it is."

[@charlesmuneri]

But you get that thing to clean the infotainment screen

[@TobiasOliveira685]

@@charlesmuneri which didn't work.

[@spacefreek]

Mat even took the effort to colour himself equally to the Zoe! @10:47

[@tabous2]

Renault never had the cruise control at the back of the steering wheel ;) Also, the point of the music control behind the steering wheel is for better ergonomics. While taking a turn, you can still change songs and volume without having to look for the control upside down on the steering wheel - it becomes muscle memory then and is easily done while turning, even though it seems far fetched, I often do this, something I would not be able to do on many other cars

[@bjornaustmarorsson2066]

Yeah exactly my old Megane 2 rs had the cruise control on the front and love the music control at the back

[@JohnJohnson-jm8ku]

Radio controls should always be behind the steering wheel. You can always find them and use them without looking at them.

[@GBLyrics]

Why can’t they just make affordable electric cars that you’d actually like to be seen in 😂

[@leesullivan1916]

Like a Sinclair C5 😏

[@yosyp5905]

the rear is horrible but the rest of the car's nice.

[@Noah-gv6zj]

or at least make them comfortable!

[@wclifton968gameplaystutorials]

Lee Sullivan the C5 is an electric bike with a boot and is not technically a car

[@yosyp5905]

@@EliasSchmid00exactly, but why won't people stop giving priority to "being cool"? it's a car, it's a tool, it's not made to show off. so many problems which don't exist. people just don't give a shit what car you drive to buy groceries

[@smpro_]

Love your content carwow, you inspired me to start my own youtube channel. Thank you for motivation.

[@fatpigeon1066]

Just a heads up that Renault removed airbags from the facelifted version resulting in a ZERO star Euro NCAP rating

[@thenextelectriccar6529]

This is an excellent review. Maybe next year I'll get one. I was planning to get a 2019 model, but then this gem was shown. I'm ecstatic right now.

[@rishimarrivada4574]

How many are just watching these videos for Mat 😁

[@wotrulke5868]

It’s about time electric ⚡️ car manufacturers developed some sort of retractable charging lead thing! Instead of the big heavy lump of lead in the boot 🚙 great review as always Mat👍🏼

[@4nglez107]

I would love to see the Zoe against the Jimny in a drag race 😄

[@paulprosser1289]

Spec it with 17" wheels and then try it on a twisty road. The difference is amazing.

[@edwinsmith9617]

Really do the 17” really make a big difference over the 16”?

[@zainsacur4161]

Everyone wants a drag race between the new and old defender stock 😇

[@denisbaraniak9715]

I love how Mat throws parcel shells that are unable to be stored properly

[@Ma12345Ho]

3:08 kWh, not kW 12:20 kW, not kWh Other than that, pretty neat video :)

[@TheUllberg]

yes, thought exactly the same - and surprising from a professional as Matt

[@djlim4612]

I don't get the hate from reviewers about the audio control at the back of the steering wheel. Once you've gotten used to it after a few drives, it's fantastic.

[@scarsolp]

Honestly, an electric version of the Clio would've sold me better than this.

[@SeaRasp]

Exactly idk what the point of this car is

[@edwinsmith9617]

This basically an electric Clio 😆

[@ytlurker220]

@@SeaRasp a compact city car that has no competitor selling globally and is cheap to run. Clio is too big to move around efficiently with this drivetrain.

[@nilsgunnarsson3537]

@@ytlurker220 that is just wrong the Zoe IS a Clio but ugly

[@seybertooth9282]

Well, you are in the minority given that this became the best selling BEV in Europe 2020, beating out Tesla Model 3.

[@ryanfrisby7389]

Howdy, great review as always Mat! Now if only Renault would come to the U.S!😸😻😸

[@alistairlambert3275]

Having owned the Zoe for nearly 3 weeks I'd say that the Zoe is worth buying. The prices for the ZE50 are comming down. You can buy a 3 year old model for about £14,000. Once you have a fast charger you are quids in at 2p per mile with certain off peak tariffs. There simply is no other car for that kind of money unless you like driving something powered by fossil juice.

[@SparkyLabs]

First honest review I have found that does not grovel to the manufacturer and repeat ad verbatim everything the manufacturer says without actually validating the claims.

[@ianthomas7863]

Even Mat's, good points about this car were bad.

[@IgorsPlay]

I got one around a month ago as a business car at my work. Everything Matt says I agree. About seat adjustments, it is really weird, to be honest, I'm 184cm in height and it's is almost too high for me, I can drive it without bumping my head, but it is close and it is a really weird feeling, not comfortable seating position at all. I average 13kw per 100km which is good for mixed driving.

[@seybertooth9282]

It's hilarious reading all the Zoe-hating comments here, five months later, when we know that this became the best selling BEV in Europe 2020, beating Tesla Model 3. So these comments didn't age very well 😂😂😂

[@maczetamaczeta189]

Some critique do have a point. Zoe has many shortcomings and its main advantage is that, it is quite "cheap". So there's a reason for its popularity not only in 2020 but in last 7 years actually. And I'm saying it as a Renault fan, who just bought new Megane. Car half that expensive with far superior features.

[@apn42]

Zoe is one of the few electric cars that may be able to AC charge at 3-phase 32 amps which is equal to 22KW. This is very useful in the city as many 11KW chargers will do 22KW if there is only one car at the charger.

[@UIracing]

Still waiting for the review of the Mercedes-AMG GLE63s coupé

[@frankstocker5475]

Great review, I prefer to know all the negatives rather than find them out after the sale.

[@Erodenmark]

I drive the old zoe at work really fun littel car! 😁

[@johnduncan5117]

I love it when Brits complain about foreign manufacturers not moving the fuse box in right hand drive models. The whole of Europe is left hand drive but yet again we expect them to adapt to us. Isn't it about time we got off our high horses ? My dad bought a left hand drive MG Montego back in the 80s and the car was a total basket case due to the right to left-hand conversion.

[@YounesLayachi]

Remember, the Zoé is electric from scratch like the Teslas , unlike the "electrified" mini and 208 or golf

[@jamo8896]

Always better like that

[@Olliemon]

208 is from scratch also, it's a brand new platform

[@YounesLayachi]

@@Olliemon 🤡

[@savedfaves]

The 👍 print to show you where to press is a good idea.

[@Kromer0]

Mini electric when Matt? I want to see that compared to the Zoe since it looks a bit better.

[@4lfie420]

Matt bro did abit of a stoopid moment on the backdoor handle, the thumb is smart because the majority of the time it's not you sitting in the back so safe to assume they would be unfamiliar with the door mechanism

[@jargcardigan5122]

Mat: *complains for 10 minutes straight* “...and that brings me on to 5 annoying things about the Zoe!”

[@TomLaceyJohnson]

Yeah, seemed to complain more about the ZOE than show what’s good about it from the get go.

[@mattpitt]

Nobody ever charges from 0-100%. More realistic rapid charge timing would be how long it takes from 20-80% which is what you'd do on a roadtrip. It's probably about 40mins so a lunch stop at a service station.

[@JohnSmith-hy1ir]

Imagine this as a hot hatch. That would be amazing.

[@Groaznic]

They made a one-off last year, absolute monster, just search Zoe 460 hp on KZbin.

[@markplott4820]

John - TESLA is making a Hot Hatch in 2023 !!!!

[@Dirty_Jester]

Stereo control behind the steering wheel is brilliant, Ford has it as well. You! should know the whole point is to not need to look at the controls.

[@riccardoschiarra]

Mat watson, please review the new maserati Sports car. Big fan ♥️

[@werty2]

Mat and Yianni should review a car together. One that they both don't like or they each take a car they both like and compete.

[@ssameerzia]

Me when I find out school starts next week: 2:28

[@aksel2316]

bruhhhhhhh i started school 3 weeks ago😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Ouaziz186]

aksel23 1 3 weeks????? I started yesterday😂😂😂😂

[@aksel2316]

Jay M 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 i live in norway. our summer vacation started june 18 and lastetd to august 15

[@Ouaziz186]

aksel23 1 oh right well even here in the UK with Rona we missed a solid 7 months of no school😂😂😂

[@aksel2316]

Jay M yes we were in lockdown before the vacation but we had school at home

[@richardblais5232]

I'm glad Zoe is selling well and has a strong market, but I could never buy such a small car ...

[@MudhaffarAdhwa]

Maserati just released a new supercar so this wasn't really the video I was expecting

[@sergiosantos9418]

Regarding the radio control behind the steering wheel, I own a Renault and a Mazda with the radio controls on the steering wheel and honestly, I prefer the radio control behind the steering wheel as Renault cars have. For me it's a plus.

[@soup97]

Video starts: *mat rides scooter* My young brother:*demonic screech intensifies* mum where's my scooter!!!!

[@gorrilagaming4036]

Just subscribed liked ,,and i will be with every video mat

[@ChuckNORRlS]

carwow should really include "km" even as a popup

[@MintzGarage]

You guys have a lot more options for electric cars than us in the US

[@albengeorge]

That charger plugged looks like an oxygen provider for COVID-19 patients

[@mBurdzy]

Sorry but i cant agree about the radio buttons behind the steering wheel. It’s the best thing ever. When I drive in any other car I always miss them. You just remember where wverything is and the layout is so clever that you can remember everything in like 10 minutes.

[@ibra1200]

okay everyone how’s this for an idea, mat vs yianni on, wait for it...MOBILITY SCOOTERS

[@archechme]

I do like the london tube map embossed in to the headliner. That's nice.

[@ChadWilson]

So, this EV is primarily being marketed to urban dwellers?

[@victoriajackson5747]

I love Renault zoe because French and I love because my nana owns Citroen c3 from 2004 and it has only done 79652 miles and I love the look of car

[@rob_lightbody]

Is "faux leather" not just vinyl, like base model cars had in the 70s and 80s?

[@jamo8896]

Pretty much

[@seybertooth9282]

No, it's not.

[@Petrol_head44]

This car could be the first one where carwow can actually do 20 Negative things about Zoe..

[@VanessaNaomiR]

Been waiting for this

[@jahashwahash2805]

He just wanted to flex his galaxy s10 plus

[@wholenutsanddonuts5741]

It’s a shame they don’t sell this in the US. :(

[@Magnusfication]

The amount of adds in these vids is getting ludicrous

[@A.Dude.]

You can get YT premium for $9/month and you won't have any adds...

[@crabrangoon2493]

@@A.Dude. imagine paying to use KZbin

[@brunobeltranbelmonte1081]

I think the wheel for the seat adjustment on 11:35 is not meant for you to put your full hand in and turn, but to push just from one point to make it turn. Like this ↙️ instead of this 🔄

[@Robertdesterk]

seriously 33k euro no thank you

[@Jo_Wardy]

That’s $54,000k in Australia that’s overpriced

[@thetad1242]

Matt corrections. Renault never had cruise control behind the steering wheel. That's Merc ,Audi and Peugeot and Citroen. Just by the way the satellite radio is good where it is. It's intuitive for most RENAULT owners. Once you are used to it, you'll use it absentmindedly

[@BrandinooWOW]

Pretty sure those 15inch standard wheels were steelies 👀

[@ZanyZoomers]

16 inch alloys, none of them come in steel. You need the iD 3 for that!

[@NPMCrz]

The stereo controlles behind the steering wheel are very usefull. In every Renault's.

[@MachoMadness69420]

One of my main issues with many of the cheap EVs is that they tend to look more like something out of a sci-fi movie than a normal car. In other words: I want my car to look like a car.

[@Groaznic]

The new Zoe and the new Leaf sure do look like nice regular cars, especially from the front.

[@viswanathannair4596]

Hey mat bro......love you man Without any lade fabulous review of awsome car by renau Its great man

[@YounesLayachi]

14:26 THIS IS THE SAME FOR ALL ELECTRIC CARS The braking energy has to go somewhere

[@alexanderwarne1715]

Something you should test is the sound in the cars

[@307skylake7]

Hey Carwow, how much can I save on that electric scooter through carwow.co.uk? 🤔

[@ampfromiisy]

LOL

[@warek-bs5hs]

1£

[@anjuswarup2947]

-1000$

[@crabrangoon2493]

@@anjuswarup2947 that one was going like 12 tops. Commuter Escooters don't cost much.

[@Talwar3k]

Clio E-Tech next please.

[@victorc.979]

9:20 imagine how old is this video consider that Math has the S10+(for people who don't know Math one month ago buy an S20)

[@leesmith9299]

Maths it's fun

[@mrjb5327]

Loving your channel Mat

[@beemaniauk]

Nearly 30K for such a crappy tiny car...Where is motor industry going...

[@buca9696]

That's the problem right now with electric cars. Entry level ones aren't that great and they're really expensive.

[@tarikajvazi9066]

Yeah, I mean you could buy a new vw t roc r line, or used audi q5(new model)

[@mediacc8372]

must consirering gaz saving

[@beemaniauk]

@@mediacc8372 Exactly! When you consider that, its mindblowing! This car is worth around £15k so in the lifetime of this car you will have to go through another £15k worth of fuel. it will take about 20 years for the average user to start paying off this extra £15k 😱😭🤯

[@edipires15]

@@beemaniauk you forget that electric cars are much cheaper to run and to maintain, and you have government grants that lower the price of the car

[@redward4383]

Matt: Well,that is designed for testing tanks,let's see how this car does

[@Mark__A]

It is a really bad car. I had one for a year, the on board computer is useless, so as the navigation. Lots of cheap and annoying solution. In winter less than 100 miles, if you going highway with heating less than 75. Wasn't able to do a Luton pickup from North London??? Front headlight was useless, AC was like your upper body is sweating and your leg is freezing. I bought a cheaper 6 years older Lexus Hybrid, 100 times better in every single way.

[@I_THE_ME]

I recently read a real winter test of electric cars in the Northern Europe. The heating system was so inadequate that at a certain temperature (around -15°c) the car just wouldn't get warm. In the end it was by far the worst of the available electric cars, but this new one probably fixes some of those problems.

[@Mark__A]

@@I_THE_ME Its not really a new one, just a mild facelift (in my opinion). It is not cheap but so many annoying and cheap short cut solutions all around the car... Unreal. Also I had a full black out on the screen, they sent me a renault pen-drive from France to reinstall the car system??? I saw a YT test 2 months ago and same thing happened to this facelift version. I mean seriously renault?

[@rustyjoints4857]

Doesn't sound like the same car to me. Sure you had a 2020 version? 🙄

[@TomHarleUK]

@@Mark__A We traded in our 2018 40kw model for this new 50kw one, honestly it feels and drives like a completely different car. Even the central screen and computer are not that bad at all. Maybe it doesn't feel premium *enough* yet for the price point, but it's a much better attempt than the previous one. At times for me it feels a lot like the BMW i3. Vibes

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@@TomHarleUK I'm glad its getting better, but honestly a 30k car which is outperformed in every single way by a half price super reliable hybrid Lexus? Our Zoe, 40kw don't have an armrest at all, I needed to go back to the dealership to buy one, it wasn't even on the options list. No alarm at all, the triangle window was smashed Christmas eve in front of my house, and the Zoe said please feel free to open the door and take what ever you like. My 20 years old Volvo V70 if its locked, you stick one finger inside trough the window, alarm. Smashing the window? Still unable to open because the door handle unhooks it self after locking. Battery out? No problem there is a hidden secondary battery in it. Summer? You sweating apart from your toes, they freezing. Winter? No range, no heating. Headlights? Way too weak. Interior quality? Non existent. It was good to use between 10 to 20 degrees, in town. B roads or motorway? Forget the overtaking. It was too much for me, I sold it put back 4k on my account and from the rest bought a Lexus which is amazing in every single way. Still doing the regen braking, EV mode, 60+ MPG in town. Every single button, function you can feel the engineering. They tried it many times to make it better and better. It is from a different universe for sure. Not to mention no option for memory seats on an electric car? Ahhh I'm sorry to say but I glad its gone.