CASE OFF - Chrome Vanadium versus Tru Sharp - I was suprised

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Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors

Cedric & Ada Gear and Outdoors

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@cpprcrk1833
@cpprcrk1833 4 жыл бұрын
The whole reason for the Trapper slipjoint knives is exactly what the name implies . They are made for skinning animals . As a hunter , I've always carried either a Trapper or a Muskrat style of slipjoint knife . Go clean a few animals with a Spyderco type blade , then use the clip & spey blades of a good quality Trapper , and you will soon realize why they are as popular as they are .
@k9razz
@k9razz 4 жыл бұрын
Tracy Stubblèfield I agree used mine to do a lot of skinning over the years great knife
@doctoruttley
@doctoruttley 3 жыл бұрын
Great point! 👌🏻
@astrazenica7783
@astrazenica7783 3 жыл бұрын
Which trapper slip joint would you recommend then?
@TheBootyWrangler
@TheBootyWrangler Жыл бұрын
@@astrazenica7783 any of em they’re all the damned same
@Muscovy7
@Muscovy7 Жыл бұрын
Well yeah, I’m super late but Spey blades are literally designed to cut the balls and stem off an animal’s junk. Plenty slicey lmao
@joshtiscareno1312
@joshtiscareno1312 4 жыл бұрын
CASE knives aren't dull, but they do come with a burr on the blade from the factory. The idea is that the user is supposed to do the final sharpening themselves. This is a very "old school" tradition and it's they way that old school knifemakers used to sell knives. That approach has mostly fallen out of favor, and most people in the modern era expect a razor sharp knife from the factory. CASE's approach allows the user to fine tune the sharpening to their own satisfaction. It's not hard to take the burr off, and once you get used to sharpening your own knives, you might find that you like this old tradition. I can remove the burr on a full sized trapper (with 2 blades) in about 5 minutes with a Spyderco sharpmaker, and I'm hardly an expert of any kind (those of you without a proper sharpener can use the bottom of a coffee cup).
@AurelienCarnoy
@AurelienCarnoy 3 жыл бұрын
Intresting
@JustIn-op6oy
@JustIn-op6oy 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a few different case knives from 4 different decades (according to the tang stamps) and can confirm. I think I would prefer a similar option for "modern" folders so long as it's not a crazy super steel that is going to take a couple hours to deburr.
@whyillustrated5610
@whyillustrated5610 2 жыл бұрын
I could saw into my arm with no danger on both blades on my new CV Peanut. Lol
@Youtube-Censorship-Police
@Youtube-Censorship-Police 2 жыл бұрын
is it also tradition to fix wobbly blades, gaps, bad centering and bad action? if so i finally understand what case knives is after.
@johnhildenbrand2642
@johnhildenbrand2642 2 жыл бұрын
This is partially true, but make no mistake, Case has gone through (and still is) a plethora of QC issues, blade play, general fit & finish issues, uneven grinds, blade rub on applicable models, the list goes on. Now before anyone gets the idea that I am a Case hater, I own a couple, and carry them regularly, and I also have no delusion that a company which has been in continuous operation doing EXACTLY the same thing for over a century is going to go through ups and downs based on who they have and those individuals skills over the years, I wholly agree that knives from anywhere that first show up on my door get a fresh edge on the edge pro apex, but there are a number of issues that are only fair to point out, I still recommend Case, and love the brand, but it is worth trying to make an in person purchase to make sure your Case has a walk & talk, fit & finish, and scale quality that you are happy with...probably an old fashioned way to buy a knife, but these are pretty old fashioned knives.
@pop4803
@pop4803 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete, as a kid growing up with a sportsman father I went almond for fishing, rabbit, quail, squirrel as well as deer hunts. I've seen him field dress all these animals with this exact knife. He preferred the stainless for corrosion resistance. This company knows what they're doing, been at it for a long time.Thanks Harry
@alaskaraftconnection-alask3397
@alaskaraftconnection-alask3397 6 жыл бұрын
Reality Check here (should be for many folks) realistically exhibiting that GEOMETRY is truly one of the greatest key factors vs. steel compositions. Always enjoy these cut test videos and the obvious time consuming real-world efforts that you are thankfully putting into these demonstrations. G'day, Ta, and cheers in my best Aussie slang!!!
@sopwithcamelus
@sopwithcamelus 3 жыл бұрын
People who are Case lovers who have used both would tell you, that as far as cutting ability and edge retention of go, both are indeed very similar. Case tells us that too, but no one seems to listen. The big difference is when it comes time to sharpen them. Chrome vanadium seems to me a bit easier to sharpen than the Tru Sharp. But for pocket knife steels they both do and have done very well for many years. I love the character a good patina can give to a pocket knife, so I am a fan of the chrome vanadium. For Tru Sharp knives, I prefer the basic Delrin work knives, with the satin ground blades. The edges and points are better defined.
@briang530
@briang530 9 ай бұрын
Yup. Biggest difference I notice isn't even sharpening on a rig or with the equipment at home. It's the ease of maintaining and touching up the edge in the field with minimal equipment. CV also patinas very nicely.
@KosherCookery
@KosherCookery Жыл бұрын
This just confirms my experience (10 years carrying case knives with both types of steel) that the difference in performance and sharpening is negligible. I prefer the stainless because I do not have to pay attention to moisture or maintain a patina.
@brentuphoff5084
@brentuphoff5084 3 жыл бұрын
If a pocket knife can do what you are doing with it in this test I would say it is a really good knife! Most people don't even come close to using their knife that hard In a year.
@Tilbily
@Tilbily 6 жыл бұрын
Their stainless is excellent. Unless you need to cut your way out of an impenetrable forest, Case stainless is more than enough knife without the worry about rust.
@acratone8300
@acratone8300 4 жыл бұрын
But I like how CV sparks better when you drag it across a hard rock to spark a fire. A knife can save your life at night when temperature drops.
@garrow12225
@garrow12225 6 жыл бұрын
Next comparison, GEC 1095 vs Case CV
@Vinyl389
@Vinyl389 6 жыл бұрын
Mohawkjk 2 case CV is 1095 Cro-Van, or so we're told at least. So, in theory, the Case should do better. But, I think the edge geometry and heat treat of a GEC is better, so it'll preform better I'd think.
@craigcook1571
@craigcook1571 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if it's 1095 or not. I'm a 1095 fan and case CV feels completely different, in edge holding, and sharpening.
@johnd9357
@johnd9357 5 жыл бұрын
craig cook it is 1095. It is simply 1095 with tiny amounts of alloying elements added in.
@mt_baldwin
@mt_baldwin 6 жыл бұрын
I only have case yellows but they all came with that funky burred edge you described.
@AlMullard
@AlMullard Жыл бұрын
One of the most underrated knives, excellent tool...spade blade is good for spreading peanut butter, mayonnaise, stirring beverages, pots of food etc..
@OLMmedic
@OLMmedic 6 жыл бұрын
I actually guesstimated this on my own years ago after having both.Cases true sharp is actually good👍🏼 , as you said. I prefer it
@mikewestbrode4986
@mikewestbrode4986 3 жыл бұрын
I have had a case sod buster for over 40 years that has done everything. I have had a stainless steel version for years now and it is great cleans easier and doesn't rust which is nice to eat with and when you put your knife in your pocket all bloody
@johnnypetty7931
@johnnypetty7931 3 жыл бұрын
I've had that same knife for 27 years. Yellow handle Case Trapper with SS Tru Sharp blades. I have no complaints. I hand sharpen it on a small stone and get it razor sharp. Does everything I want it to do. Very good knife. I have medium Case Stockman with CV blades and it's good knife too. Little easier to sharpen but both knives perform the same. The CV blades do tarnish and it looks like an antique now but that's ok. To me that's the only point worth considering. If you want the knife to keep looking good get SS, bút if you want an older antique look get the CV.
@Lex5576
@Lex5576 4 жыл бұрын
Case is like Buck when it comes to using 420 Stainless. They know how to heat treat it better than anyone else. Case has it's proprietary TruSharp process.......Buck has the BOS process. I like these steels because you can actually sharpen them without having to spend all afternoon getting it that way.
@sopwithcamelus
@sopwithcamelus 3 жыл бұрын
That's why they're still in business, that's for sure.
@Crazy_Joe_Davola
@Crazy_Joe_Davola Жыл бұрын
The trade off is the cv takes more stropping; the ss takes less stropping. Seems it all evens out. Great video.
@RobinAnderssonGarage42
@RobinAnderssonGarage42 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting result. However I have the cv version myself, because i like the patina.
@clydestamp6970
@clydestamp6970 3 жыл бұрын
Mine just begging to turn. I'm so glad cause don't care for pretty in a knife.
@paul_schuette
@paul_schuette 6 жыл бұрын
So glad you did this testing! I've always wondered about the difference.
@MrTravis789
@MrTravis789 4 ай бұрын
If you want to be impressed with a kitchen knife, keep your eyes open for 1970s-90s vanadium steel kitchen knives. Thin them out on a belt grinder. Best knife in my kitchen and I spent $3 for it
@MrTravis789
@MrTravis789 4 ай бұрын
I cut up 50 square feet of cardboard with it a dozen times a year and just touch it up with a steel. Needs a stone (or more likely back to a fine belt on the grinder because it is slow to sharpen) about every 4 years
@MrTravis789
@MrTravis789 4 ай бұрын
Better materials were found and utilized 30 years ago, but people didnt appreciate it (or sharpen their knives for that matter) we are past the xenith of high quality materials in common knives. Not that you cant get a custom or high dollar knife with better steel
@nitrorc4life1
@nitrorc4life1 Жыл бұрын
This test was a fine benchmark, yall need to stop obsessing over edge retention and focus more on sharpening and use skills. I have gone full circle, from budget to premium to semi custom and back to more basic blades. Have many hundreds of knives and now use my Case traditional knives as much as my premium modern folders now. Was hung up on super steels for over a decade, and can sharpen them to a razor polished edge with no trouble,.....yet I am just fine using a basic steel that case, Buck ect use today. At end of day a few swipes to hone at end of day (if needed, and I use them daily) and good to go. We just moved and packed all knives except a mini griptilian, Roper med. stockman, oldtimer 94otb) roper was the lender to those asking and I mainly used the 94otb, all were still sharp enough after the move was complete.....guessing I didn't need any of my elmax, 20cv or m390 stuff for the job......for regular daily use, "budget" steel is just fine.
@Hunter-mu7sp
@Hunter-mu7sp 4 ай бұрын
Same here, their fine knives that don’t seem to get enough credit.
@chs53021
@chs53021 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome set of tests and great information that you cant really get anywhere else. thank you!
@norby0418
@norby0418 3 жыл бұрын
I have never had an issue with Case SS vs CV. Really can’t see much difference. Victorinox isn’t all that bad either.
@brianfollett687
@brianfollett687 6 жыл бұрын
Try using the other blade , the clip point . Those blades look like really thin stock, really slicey , which is probably helping them cut better .
@dwainsw4076
@dwainsw4076 6 жыл бұрын
Based on concerns about blade shape and its effect on test results, would you be better off doing test on clip point blades?
@johnnoodles2155
@johnnoodles2155 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly! On the other hand I wonder how much of a noticeable difference it would've made. I'll treat this test as part of the other edge retention tests!
@nitrorc4life1
@nitrorc4life1 Жыл бұрын
This test was fine benchmark, yall need to stop obsessing over edge retention and focus more on sharpening and use skills. I have gone full circle, from budget to premium to semi custom and back to more basic blades. Have many hundreds of knives and ow use my Case traditional knives as much as my premium overnight folders now. Was hung up on super steels for over a decade, and can sharpen them to a razor polished edge with no trouble,.....yet I am just fine using a basic steel that case, Buck ect use today. At end of day a few swipes to hone at end of day (if needed, andi use them daily) and good to go. We just moved and packed all knives except a mini griptilian, Roper med. stockman, oldtimer 94otb) roper was the lender to those asking and I mainly used the 94otb, all were still sharp enough after the move was complete.....guessing I didn't need any of my elmax, 20cv or m390 stuff for the job......for regular daily use, "budget" steel is just fine.
@ChrisEbbrsen
@ChrisEbbrsen 9 ай бұрын
And did you do a. C.s.? Very currious? Interesting study thanks!
@Nothingtoya
@Nothingtoya 2 жыл бұрын
The stainless feels a bit gummy when I sharpen it. I do wish they offered all of their knives in CV.
@ianrawlings2546
@ianrawlings2546 Жыл бұрын
Was his dog testing the steel in its bowl in the background at the end of the video?
@SmilingGator96
@SmilingGator96 3 жыл бұрын
New comment on old video. Those are mini trappers. They're about 3 thirds or half the size of a full size CASE trapper. They are actually a more popular model than the full size trappers. You can tell they're mini trappers due to the sharp hump on the clip points. Also, yes, a lot of CASE knives come with that rough edge. What's funny though is that not all of them do. So, if it is a tradition, they don't do it on all their knives. I personally think it's do to their overall fit & finish going downhill.
@49giants3
@49giants3 6 жыл бұрын
I love these tests. Thanks Pete
@ansonleJH1
@ansonleJH1 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, half the reason i enjoy these videos so much is the music. The other half is the knife nerd out.
@kentuckyboy541
@kentuckyboy541 Жыл бұрын
Big case fan. The factory edge always needs a touch up and strop.
@jamesbranham2217
@jamesbranham2217 6 ай бұрын
You were talking about putting different steel in a different knife.. that's not what it was intended for.. i think those are great knives and the yellow color is pretty if that matters.. nice review though ..thanks
@alicedeen720
@alicedeen720 Жыл бұрын
A very good video thank you. Love your presentation style and some really great information. That True Sharp system looks good and runs off a standard drill I'm guessing. Thank you.
@0zmosis2001
@0zmosis2001 6 жыл бұрын
yes finally the question I always wanted too know witch one CV or ss another great video Pete. Keep them rolling. now here in the US where I am anyways I always try to keep a case Sod-Buster or a single blade in my sis pocket for a backup or when I need a smaller knife when I'm in public
@edm2822
@edm2822 2 жыл бұрын
Great objective review! Thank you! I would suggest modern Case just likes finishing blades on a 400 grit belt which leaves them toothy. Some might like this but I prefer a finer edge. Older Case knives that are mint have a much finer edge.
@johneykennick102
@johneykennick102 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this comparison. I've been very curious about this for some time now. Could you do a video on L7 high-carbon Swedish Steel that comes on the Svord Peasant Knife please?
@astaschak
@astaschak Жыл бұрын
That's interesting. Bit of an older video but I was looking at some case knives to add to my traditional collection. I felt it wouldn't be right if I didn't have at least one Case knife. I honestly felt that the CV was going to be loads better and I had that same thought that the tru-sharp was junk. Idk where I got that honestly. To see that it's a bit better than victorinox which I've always been pleased with for what the knives are is surprising. It's no k390 sure but it's a small pocket knife, for small tasks. The trapper specifically is for general cutting and skinning of animals. Which obviously it does just fine for that I'm sure, seeing how popular the pattern is. For almost everybody this would do fine for an edc steel. Especially since I can go a week or so without having to touch up a victorinox with my normal edc use. I sometimes carry a small pocket stone too if I know I'll be using my knife a bit more than usual for whatever. Probably unnecessary but I also enjoy sharpening knives and get upset if it doesn't at least shave hair anymore haha.
@norby0418
@norby0418 6 жыл бұрын
You've proven what we already knew! Not a whole lotta difference between CV and SS. I prefer stainless, no worry about rust and better for use around food.
@MountainFisher
@MountainFisher 4 жыл бұрын
At 0.2% vanadium doesn't make carbides, it is included into an alloy to restrict grain growth during heat treat and that's why it is a little better than the other steel. Don't expect vanadium to form carbides under about 0.6% like in CRUFORGE-V which runs about 0.7 vanadium, it is essentially 1084 with vanadium carbides and boy you can feel the difference when sanding a linear satin finish.
@LarsRibe
@LarsRibe 6 жыл бұрын
Cool test. I have been wondering exactly that. And isn't it beautiful how different we are and yet I love this channel.. I really like those classic knives (like the Case Trapper) and I am quite sure I will never buy a ZT..
@asmacr.8391
@asmacr.8391 4 ай бұрын
Though case always have burr out of the box they can easily bite on smooth surface you’re cutting it with
@knifetimestory
@knifetimestory 3 жыл бұрын
Been on the CASE tour. I live near there. The amount of time spent sharpening is roughly 3 seconds. Not joking. One pass on each side on a belt. Yep. That's it. I was there with a friend and we both looked at each other and were stunned. For God's sake, you are a freaking knife factory and for the most important part of the operation, actually putting an edge on the blade to make it sharp, and it takes 3 seconds? That includes time spent in the operator's hand switching sides.
@swamp.stomper
@swamp.stomper Жыл бұрын
Awesome man!! Thanks for doing this. More recently you were having a bit of fun at the expense of Case collectors which made this even more fun to watch
@davids9549
@davids9549 Жыл бұрын
Both Case's Tru-Sharp (actually 420HC) and CV steels contain (among other things) carbon, chrome and vanadium, just in different quantities. So not an entirely surprising result. I might be mistaken, but I think the Tru-Sharp has more chromium, making it more corrosion resistant, and the CV has more carbon, making it harder.
@Outcaste153
@Outcaste153 6 жыл бұрын
Ever case ive gotten has been that out of the box. But i have never found it to be a big deal. Not trying to be a dick but I can tell you not a traditional knive guy btw the clip point is your work blade not the spay.
@lanced3256
@lanced3256 3 жыл бұрын
A great comparison thank you very much for the vid very comprehensive
@richardsteinbergmakingknives
@richardsteinbergmakingknives 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Cedric, great video! You have my Subscription. Well done.
@j-rush2266
@j-rush2266 6 жыл бұрын
Great test! Have you ever handled/reviewed the Kabar Dozier. It is one of the best budget folders I own.
@mdubb4855
@mdubb4855 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see the Kabar Dozier tested too. In AUS8 and D2. But his poor hands.
@charlescollier7217
@charlescollier7217 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting stuff! Also, what is Cedric doing with that dish?
@andreilukyanov4286
@andreilukyanov4286 5 ай бұрын
Carbon is not supposed to hold edge better, it is supposed to be sharper and easy to sharpen. The fact that it also held the edge better is awesome.
@MH-zu3kg
@MH-zu3kg 6 жыл бұрын
Why not give your cutting board a good sanding down? Not so there's no cut marks, but at least where it's leveled and smooth. You use it a lot. Shit looks rough and full of rope fibers and possibly micro metal shavings from all the knives.
@CedricAda
@CedricAda 6 жыл бұрын
good idea, will do that
@franciscapatar1040
@franciscapatar1040 6 жыл бұрын
I was looking at a case knife with a really cool pattern recently but I was worried with their Tru Sharp steel. Seeing the results of this test, I might actually get that knife. thanks!
@insanogeddon
@insanogeddon 2 жыл бұрын
Steel snob lols .. bugger patereons and multitude requests lets just totally ignore the other blade we could have used so we can say the vid is an inconclusive waste of time. Personally, I have found case, like the gerber LST, better than most trending(earn marketing dollars) knives from working wood to breaking down game. Old patterns are even better as more blades for same weight, relaxed classic looks, better long term use in hand, and even on the worse quality pull-through V sharpener gets back to working order in seconds. They just work w/o the pretention or disappointing promises.
@butchy586
@butchy586 2 жыл бұрын
case puts a work knife edge on their knives thats what theyre intended for.WORKING TOOLS
@asmacr.8391
@asmacr.8391 4 ай бұрын
Yes!! And they cut through boxes, rope etc. like butter on that toothy edge not good for paper cutting sht but that’s not the point. Im glad that someone understands why case put rough edges on their knife
@chaseboatright
@chaseboatright 6 жыл бұрын
Pete, I am not sure if you are aware of this or not but there is a different clamp available for the lansky that does not have rubber inserts. It's does however accommodate thinner blades such as these. I have used it to sharpen SAKs with great results.
@chaseboatright
@chaseboatright 6 жыл бұрын
LP006 is the part number btw.
@CedricAda
@CedricAda 6 жыл бұрын
nice! thanks!
@96xr400
@96xr400 6 жыл бұрын
I am very curious on how a GEC knife's steel would compare. May be the same as cv idk
@mdubb4855
@mdubb4855 3 жыл бұрын
Dropped the same steel in both accidentally or to rationalize production?
@agentjonburrows9595
@agentjonburrows9595 5 жыл бұрын
CV>SS any day! They can get scary sharp! More maintenance but if you’re a knife guy then that is fun to maintain a knife. CV can have a beautiful patina or if ya want you can keep it oiled up. CV gets so sharp! Real cowboys prefer the CV blade.
@krustysurfer
@krustysurfer 3 жыл бұрын
Pure dedication!
@oldeays5085
@oldeays5085 Жыл бұрын
It's 1095 with vanadium. Not 1087! Same steel k-bar uses, they call it 1095 cro. Van !
@BaxtersBlades
@BaxtersBlades Жыл бұрын
Well my Yellow CV Case is on the way. I just it holds up as long and the quality is as good at my $13 Rough Ryders! Im also a Big ABKT Roper Trapper Fan!
@niclewis8469
@niclewis8469 2 жыл бұрын
Case gets a bad rap from some people. Having owned buck knives, old timers, spyderco, and a whole list of others the case knives get the vote. I live in the south, and around these parts it has to be cv steel. They sharpen with less strokes than the stainless and what they may or may not lack in edge holding capacity, they make up for in ease of sharpening. we skin deer and hogs with a case slimline trapper and full-size trapper. use a texas toothpick for squirrel joints and dove breast. I may be biased but the tool should sharpen with a diamond stone QUICKLY, and if cutting meat it wont need to be sharpened as often if you miss the bones.
@Hunter-mu7sp
@Hunter-mu7sp 4 ай бұрын
100 percent agreed. From the south also and we’ve skinned countless hogs with Case 54 pattern large trappers.
@Gpknives
@Gpknives 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. Not often you are able to get two knives that are exactly the same with different steels. Performance is about what I would have expected from those two steels. For what they are they get the job done.
@patrickbledsoe2176
@patrickbledsoe2176 Жыл бұрын
If you come across this comment whats your thoughts on the new s 35 v case traditional knifes?
@VincenzoNero94
@VincenzoNero94 6 жыл бұрын
High carbon steel generally always sharpens better then ss, and is normally more responsive to strops.
@justamason6869
@justamason6869 4 жыл бұрын
What sharpener are you using? I'm in the market for a new one
@mosherogoff1252
@mosherogoff1252 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe if your board was mounted on an angle so that it is easier to cut in the main, long flat section of the blades whilst still being ergonomically without excess strain?
@Pew7070
@Pew7070 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete!
@andreafabiano5185
@andreafabiano5185 3 жыл бұрын
Do a test with the rough ryder classic carbon and the case carbon
@semco72057
@semco72057 5 жыл бұрын
I have one of those knives which I purchased from their company store and had my name engraved on the blade. I am not sure which type it is right off and it is with my other collector knives since I didn't want to damage it.
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 4 жыл бұрын
Probably true sharp, they are a little bit more common.
@acehartless6075
@acehartless6075 6 жыл бұрын
♤Thanks for doing this test. Can you do a sharpening comparison (lansky) to see which one is easier to sharpen? I have always been told the CV is easier. Thanks for you time!!
@curtiscf1986
@curtiscf1986 4 жыл бұрын
I think that is a pretty crude and ineffective form of testing when you think about it. My argument is this: You are involuntarily putting slightly different amounts of pressure on the knife with each different cut you make. The cutting board is probably what is causing the majority of the wear on your knife edge....and not necessarily the rope itself. I would suggest folding the rope over the belly of the knife and slicing through it like most people normally would when cutting rope. I would completely eliminate the cutting board to do this kind of a test. Every case knife I have owned came straight out of the box with that dull crappy edge just like yours had. They couldn’t cut soft butter out of the box. Lol. I think Case Cutlery knows that most people prefer to put their own edge on their knives anyway, and therefore don’t invest much time in striving for a perfect grind at the factory. However, despite all that I think Case makes a great EDC traditional pocket knife. Why else would they have been in business for as long as they have? I love mine.
@CedricAda
@CedricAda 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Curtis. I have conducted this test over 120 times on different steels, with different finishes and many other variables. I have three separate videos out acknowledging all the weaknesses in these tests. I acknowledge often the ambiguity between whether or not its the rope or the board doing the edge wear, which is why I keep the same rope and board in every test. I do these as there is a personal curiousity and people tend to like seeing what happens. Folding the rope over the belly of the knife doesnt account for each knife having a different belly and some knives will get longer lengths to cut than others. Cutting downward into the board allows me to as best as I can repeat the cut the same way with about the same amount of edge. Its one of those things that in the end, its up to the viewer to decide whether they like the test or not. I do everything I can to prevent them from bothering people too much. Some folks have decided that a steel is the best regardless of what anyone says or what I or anyone else can show so I’ve never been too bothered about those things. Just kinda do what I do and try not to stew.
@zeuqramjj2002
@zeuqramjj2002 3 жыл бұрын
They’re mass produced, they’re probably ok leaving factory, if the edge is brought together. Leatherman straight edge are the same way, it’ll saw rope out of the box, YOU gotta get it there if you wanna shave with it.
@clarenceshuemake3519
@clarenceshuemake3519 9 ай бұрын
I love my Banana Case
@DS-vo8me
@DS-vo8me 4 жыл бұрын
Just a few years ago a knife case was very sharp out of the box😔
@void1984
@void1984 2 жыл бұрын
I just like the patina.
@peanutsmith1462
@peanutsmith1462 6 жыл бұрын
That’s the True quality of made in the USA 🇺🇸
@UR_Excluded
@UR_Excluded 4 жыл бұрын
I tried to buy a couple Case knives and they had the same burred edges. I just returned them because every other knife I had already bought, from a Buck 110, several GECs, to an Ultratech were all scalpel sharp right out of the box.
@_BLANK_BLANK
@_BLANK_BLANK 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, why not just sharpen them? You would have to sharpen the knife eventually anyway. Its not the same knife world, but japanese chef knives come with rough edges a lot of the time, they do it so you can put the type of edge you like on the knife once you get it. I doubt case is doing it for the same reason, but the principal is still the same.
@DrJuice1
@DrJuice1 Жыл бұрын
I like my Cases a lot, but yeah, they came pretty rough overall, and not just the blades.
@nativewildman9335
@nativewildman9335 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video I have a few Case Knives I like them. Case makes fixed blades with true sharp . I have one it's the Case Mini Finn it has lots of use and easy to sharpen using a whetstone. Great video!
@VincenzoNero94
@VincenzoNero94 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t put them in the work sharp 🙈
@FURFEELINGS_3
@FURFEELINGS_3 5 жыл бұрын
I'm curious on why I was considering getting one lol
@FURFEELINGS_3
@FURFEELINGS_3 5 жыл бұрын
I also have the same knife in the video the CV
@serkanst15
@serkanst15 4 жыл бұрын
There is a debate between case and rough rider why dont u make a shot for a rough rider 440a vs true sharp edge retention
@rocko2753
@rocko2753 3 жыл бұрын
this is the way
@camojoe83
@camojoe83 6 жыл бұрын
Burrrr.. that's just how cases come. Points are rarely good as well. Mostly made for lookers, they can be tuned right up to actually use tho.
@sopwithcamelus
@sopwithcamelus 3 жыл бұрын
If you want a pointy Case, get one of the satin finished work knives in Tru Sharp. They don't tumble polish the points and corners off.
@michaeljustice124
@michaeljustice124 4 жыл бұрын
That spade blade was designed to cut the balls off of farm animals not rope!
@josephr2766
@josephr2766 4 жыл бұрын
Spey blade. But you got it. The round tip allows for castrations without puncturing, especially your own hand.
@cubehire3653
@cubehire3653 6 жыл бұрын
I am surprised the blade did not come sharp as Buck and Spyderco Knives do.
@graham765
@graham765 6 жыл бұрын
Try a sharpmaker or a whetstone edge, spend about 30 minutes on each one. something tells me you will get different results.
@chrisbowden8622
@chrisbowden8622 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there. Do you or anyone on here have a Case Copperlock (not a mini) with a chrome vanadium blade for sale?? I am looking for one for my brother. We cannot find one anywhere; will pay top price for one in good shape.
@Bce3gme3
@Bce3gme3 Жыл бұрын
Old reply but I did look in my collection.. I found over a dozen Large Copperlocks all SS. All I found CV was a Case Trapper and a Mini Trapper. Both in the yellow synthetic handle. I did find a Canal Limited Edition Moon single slim Trapper in 14-4 Chrome Moly.
5 жыл бұрын
I have around 10 case knives, the edges have come either in the pretty rough to the decent range. I've abused my CV Russlock like crazy trying to learn how to sharpen on a whetstone, many hours of absolutely horrible technique... getting muddy grit in the locking mechanism... Some cleaning and a proper honing with the Spyderco Sharpmaker and it's cutting great and still looks great.
@Greenmanbacchus
@Greenmanbacchus 5 жыл бұрын
According to one reviewer, his Case XX Presentation Bowie has had heavy use since coming out of the box. He still sees no need to sharpen it kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4iaoH9sor93m5Y
@Greenmanbacchus
@Greenmanbacchus 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, and the Case XX Presentation Bowie is Tru-Sharp, not CV He says he beat it up for seven months, and it still needs no sharpening. Myself, I passed on the Case XX Bowie 30+ years ago, tried it out for balance etc and did not like what I found. Maybe I should give it another look, if I can find one to handle before buying
@Greenmanbacchus
@Greenmanbacchus 5 жыл бұрын
@ Good idea,,Papi....thanks
@latetodagame1892
@latetodagame1892 Жыл бұрын
I think the edges would work well on rope.
@nathenwallis5664
@nathenwallis5664 6 жыл бұрын
Great test!. As I have mentioned when in comments before, I enjoy carrying traditional folders a lot, and CV vs Trusharp steel is debated a lot in the Facebook groups and what not. Usually it's just people saying "I think this one is better because...", so no real "testing". You could try using the other blades ( the clip points ), because those blade shapes might have about the same amount of cutting board contact as the knives you usually test. I have been wondering which pattern you went with, and the funny thing is I literally just finished sharpening my brother in laws Case Trapper, in CV steel....The exact same knife you just used. It was a bit of a pain in the ass to sharpen on the lansky, but turned out pretty good, my brother in law was surprised by how sharp I was able to get it. It was kind of tricky to get centered up in the clamp
@juliangomez9749
@juliangomez9749 5 жыл бұрын
Have you ever cut paper before?
@RSP3557
@RSP3557 5 жыл бұрын
Look how blown away this guy was. His hair is out of control after he did that cut test lmao 😂
@conradsmith9332
@conradsmith9332 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, my case texas toothpick is not very sharp either which supreised me.
@gvigil609
@gvigil609 6 жыл бұрын
thats the same conclusion they got on bladeforums as well
@KnifeThoughts
@KnifeThoughts 6 жыл бұрын
They come with rough edges.
@AurelienCarnoy
@AurelienCarnoy 3 жыл бұрын
Great video but without the sound is better. I lasted until 2:58 and I realized that I was seriously straining myself to watch a fast forward of something I will not buy and would feel better listening to nothing at all.
@francispotter5300
@francispotter5300 4 жыл бұрын
I carry a CV, med trapper 6207, my favorite knife good old 🇺🇸 made Case l have been using mine since 2013 still look fine (Doug in Ga)
@michiganedge4770
@michiganedge4770 4 жыл бұрын
Javier Hernandez I carry a medium 3318 with yellow derlin scales. The cv steel naturally will patina. Especially if you use it for cutting food like me. Just wipe the blades with your shirt after use and it holds up fine. Once in awhile I will oil my pivot and springs. Other then that I just keep it clean. If I use it ice fishing or on the water just give er a wipe down later and all is well
@Madkent94
@Madkent94 6 жыл бұрын
I'm supprised at how well the tru sharp went in this test, I am not particularly impressed with the tru sharp steel on my Case sodbuster, it seems to roll over if you look at it wrong. These are really interesting tests though, keep it up! It would be interesting to see how long you can keep an edge going in these tests with a honing steel, lately I've been using one on my pocket knives and even utility knives and keeping an edge going almost indefinitely. Also, traditional folding knives are the best. By far my favourite part of my collection (even if they're objectively inferior to my modern folders)
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 4 жыл бұрын
Might be a bur removal issue, I have found true sharsharp tends to hold a bur a little more than some other steels.
@JustIn-op6oy
@JustIn-op6oy 3 жыл бұрын
You might want to try deburring on the corner of a block of wood. I found during major sharpening sessions with the case knives in my collection I cannot be tentative when it comes to removing the burr. It's one of the times that overkill is underrated.
@johnruff7417
@johnruff7417 6 жыл бұрын
I say put them on the list, it specifies what knife it was on anyway.
@tikkidaddy
@tikkidaddy 5 жыл бұрын
Case knives are just fine as long as you carry a small ceramic rod in your pocket. Buck HT IS far better on the stainless. According to Mike Stewart in the Bark River FB group Case formerly used Sharon Sttels variant of High Carbon that was the same as Cold Steels vaunted Carbon V. The heat treatment is everything.
@sopwithcamelus
@sopwithcamelus 3 жыл бұрын
I believe KA-BAR's 1095 CroVan may be the same. I love the stuff. Case runs the steel a little soft, but that's because people still use their knives to scrape, pry and unscrew things...
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