Caste System - BBC discussion

[@HinduAcademy]

This video is about Caste System in UK, This discussion with Eugen shows how some anti Hindus try to show Hinduism in poor light. Jay Lakhani sir has spoken against caste system many times, Please note Caste system is a social evil, it is not Hinduism, it is atrocity committed in the name of social system, it is not sanctioned by any Hindu scripture of Authority, Manu smriti is not scripture of authority, its content are outdated and no longer applicable, therefore Hindus are doing whatever job they are interested in doing. It is on the way out and will slowly die out as economic and social changes happen. See video in link below: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2ixhniEjb5qisU ▼

[@NativeVsColonial]

In Hinduism, birth based caste is a superstitious system, however Varna was the original system, in Varna there was no upper or lower, people chose the work of which they are qualified for and according to Bhagavad Gita, anyone can be a Brahmin (Teacher, Scholar profession), Shatriya (Warrior, Army profession), Vaishya (Trader, Business profession), Shudra (Other social workers) based on as per their skills, knowledge, and capabilities: 🔹In Bhagavad Gita 4:13, Krishna says that he created different Varnas (Profession) on the basis of one's Karma (Activity) and Guna (Quality). 🔹Bhagavad Gita 5:18 "The truly learned, with the eyes of divine knowledge, see with equal vision a Brahmin, a cow, an elephant, a dog, and a dog-eater" 🔹Bhagavad Gita 9:29 "I am equally disposed to all living entities: there is neither friend nor foe to Me: but those who with living sentiments render divotional service unto Me, such persons are in Me and I am in them." 🔹Bhagavad Gita 18:41 "The duties of the Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, and Shudras are distributed in accordance with their guṇas (quality) and not by birth. Caste is a Spanish and Portuguese word 'casta' which stands for 'Breed' or 'lineage'. During earlier times Caste use to be Varna (Profession) and based on merit and not merely by birth, I can give instances from the ancient times, where a so-called modern day "lower caste" moved to "upper caste", e.g. Guru Valmiki, Kabir Das was from a shudra family but became a brahmin based on merit, etc and btw Ravana, his younger brother Kumbhakarna all were Brahmins knowledgeable person from Northern India but because of their notorious activities all were punished by Rama (believed to be an OBC if we abide by today's caste categorization). Lastly, you have to understand the British motive behind imposing caste: The Caucasians (Europeans) created Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda, Africa, to divide and control the native population, and for this reason, the Rwanda Genocide occurred. The same attempts and inequalities Europeans also tried to create amongst Indians by separating Northern India and Southern India into "Aryans" VS "Dravidians" and further dividing Hinduism into 3,000 castes and 25,000 sub-castes. And also read about Herbert Hope Risley who created casteism, racism in Indian society by one's facial features and skin color, and Bishop Robert Caldwell who propagated the "Aryan Invasion" in Southern India to convert "Dravidians" into Christianity. Read the book 'Castes of Mind' by Nicholas Dirks

[@ninadtaksande]

So in UK there is a report which shows there is discrimination. But where in Subcontinent, it doesn't exist? Champion Chomu

[@dantepal7948]

Its dark reality in India and mostly supported by Higher cast peoples, Tell me if there is any inter-caste marriages happen in your family with a dalit cast

[@Barwal7]

Everybody knows how caste atrocities are being rubbed on Hindu faces to make them appropriate for missionary conversion cults devoid of any sense.

[@polaris1985]

@@dantepal7948 dalits don't want to marry in different caste themselves, my friend was a yadav(belongs in OBC) said to me he will only marry a Yadav women and he was a MBA passout( a well educated lower caste person), so if all the castes themselves higher or lower want to marry into same caste then how will you term this is into discrimination.

[@RamG360]

"Brahmin caste believe in Brahmana" I gagged when I heard this statement

[@maheshc37]

Me too. Haha

[@an1ketsharma]

Oh bhai 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@shashwatpandey7939]

me too XD XD

[@anonymousanonymous2319]

Me too

[@Changinglives2000]

yes that other guy was so frustrated 🤣

[@krishkmani]

The guy in the middle doesn't make any eye contact and refuses to turn towards the other guy.

[@johnferoz1314]

Cause he believe in book. 😄😄

[@VNavale]

I've been in the UK for 20 years and from a backward caste, no one has ever asked me my caste to date.

[@JayInMelbourne]

Good one Vidyadhar, the local missionaries want to divide and rule policy...!

[@sumanaghosal5072]

Thanks 🙏 dear ...who want to divide us make them understand that truth. 🕉🇮🇳

[@bc5197]

I'm Indian, born and bred in UK and I went to school here and trust me people have asked me my caste SO many times, only those from a Sikh background however

[@thebestbuscuit]

@@bc5197 When I was in school here in India, none of my classmates or teacher gave a sh*t about such stuff. Idk what sort of classmates you have. Only time, we were asked about "category", not specifically caste was for providing tuition fee compensation to financially weaker sections. Although this maybe still be prevalent in some backward areas here, and it surely is getting eradicated with education and awareness.

[@dantepal7948]

you are saying in UK when they go for marriage they(Indian) dont check the cast

[@gustunitisastra7269]

When i dont have money,, I see cast in Hinduism,,and when I am rich,,the world is mine,,😀

[@subhashmahale8607]

Exploiting caste system is a rewarding and highly paying thing for the Church and it's emissaries like Eugene. They just don't want to lose it

[@prakasmohan8448]

How could we lose it?

[@abhishekdey2001]

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/85524/caste-discrimination-summary.pdf

[@PlatypusPerry-]

And in the mandirs also.... People will donate anything and everything on the name of caste and religion that's why thet don't want lower caste people to among those who controls mandirs

[@gopalramanathan7062]

Rogues like Eugene loves exploiting something that doesn’t exist so that he can indulge in Christian Evangelicalism.

[@gopalramanathan7062]

@@PlatypusPerry- Utter nonsense. Such practices of course exist and thrive in Islamic mosques and Christian churches. Ask any Taliban or a Jehovas Witness and they would be glad to confirm.

[@umeshgurjar4304]

He even dont know the scriptures properly mixing brahman and brahmin😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@isocpp0xf830]

Yeah, he literally said brahman is god of bhramin 🤣I guess he woulda known better if he'd taken 101 course on Hinduism

[@ericbjrnson5993]

The bullshit that Eugine was preaching. LMAO! Mr.Jay Lakhni clearly owned him.

[@advaita1976]

Caste system has no support in Vedas, Upanishads or Gita. Manusmriti is just a work that describes ways to ideally run a society. It is not considered a work of Hindu scripture. The fact is that there was class system all around world until concepts of egalitarianism became strong in Europe during period of Enlightenment. There were still classes of patrician & plebian during time of French Revolution in a strictly Christian society, not to mention practice of slavery in North America. I am given to understand that there are still White supremacists in America & Europe. Those ideas are still to percolate fully among the masses in India. It will take time. But to blame that strictly on tenets of Hinduism has no basis, as there is no support from Hindu scriptures for this practice.

[@peacegod101]

Yeah Europe had a class system. Well that was then and this is now. And now British Indians are defending the caste system. It's pure and simple, if you don't want caste discrimination illegal it's cause you think it's acceptable to discriminate on the basis on caste. Period

[@prakashrathod4125]

+peacegod101 no offence, your comment here does not make any sense at all.

[@vishvajitsinhkosamiya7154]

Peacegod101 i appreciate the firocity at which you love God. I.e Humanity. But creating a Law and implementing it will need that people Officially on Goverment document describe themself from One of the Four Caste. This Law will Cementise the very thing it was ment to distroy.

[@DarkKnight-or1ck]

Loll know the difference between class and cast system both are not same .......

[@krishnanb.s.5581]

advaita1976 Caste system was purely a system of dividing labour in the society purely based on Merit. It was not not heridetary .

[@koushikreddy1214]

How much does the catholic Church pay you mate for eradicating Hinduism? Huh mate Eugene?

[@eggytoast]

In the UK caste discrimination is rare but in India it's very common due to corruption.

[@megatron6382]

Selfishness flow in blood of everyone.. without putting effort in rising conciousness, nothing will change..

[@personal6191]

To abolish cast system government created new discrimination like OC BC. Etc

[@shivamjd9018]

First u start doing intercast marriages...

[@abcdpqrs1281]

@@shivamjd9018 that's not going to solve caste problems in any way or form.

[@anand1311]

@@abcdpqrs1281 that will! Just start it!

[@polaris1985]

@@anand1311 all my cousins are intercaste married, we are Rajput, 2 married pandits, 1 married christian, 1 married Chinese, 1 married baniya, 1 married south Indian(dont know caste), 1 is having relations with a sikh. So now you know, when are you ending reservation in Jobs and colleges?

[@dhirajreddy56]

​@@abcdpqrs1281caste system is followed by old people who are still alive, not by current generation

[@falbycourt]

" I am a bard, my father is a physician, my mother's job is to grind the corn ..."~ Rig Veda 9.112.3 The most sacred ( Rig Veda = Shruti ) Vedic text.Tell me again how the Varna system is hereditary ?

[@Sticklemako]

The problem is the poorly referenced but widely used Manu Smriti... If we can drop that stupid book Hindu Philosophy is the best in the world..

[@jaivijayful]

@@Sticklemako You're an uninformed accidental Hindu if you consider the great Manusmriti as a stupid book. Talk about yourself, moron.

[@ashokvudayagiri5725]

@@Sticklemako Manu smriti was never an official law book till the British made it so. It was only one of the several shastras. Today's Hindu law code is based on Mitakshara, not Manusmriti

[@sunildutt7650]

Manusmriti is very clear with the concept its people who lack the abilities to understand and the chutiyas come degrading the texts

[@kenopedia7023]

@@Sticklemako bro read the true manusmisrti

[@sanjaynithin6053]

There's always a difference between scriptures and reality

[@RojaJaneman]

It’s not in scriptures either

[@agookchild]

manusmriti is not scripture

[@Omegacrafton]

This is the reality of your relegion and no need to hide your fake books these cast cruel syestem is in mahbharat and ved also , just go and check alina ali and samstalone channels and the easy way is to to read your books so then need to feel ashamed and hide things it,s not hidden now everything is exposed

[@varunganapathi5081]

@@Omegacrafton what do you even know? Caste system was a portuguese-spanish concept. What did exist in India and in the vedas is the varna system which determines the social classes in society not based on birth but on the work you do. The scholars, teachers, poets and authors were called brahmans, the warriors or soldiers were called kshatriyas, the traders, merchants and businessman were called vaishyas and finally the common man who worked as a farmer, carpenter, blacksmith, a dancer or anything else was called a shudra. Matter of fact the king who defeated Alexander the great in the north-east of India was born to shudra parents but when he became a warrior and a king he was in the class of kshatriya . The manusmriti that was portrayed to the outer world was just a piece of paper that nobody cared about and it was fabricated during translations by william jones. The manusmrithi is not even considered a part of sanathan dharma but the british made it seem so to push out a false narrative to the outside world. This is what the first governor general said about it. "The Brits were bewildered by the variety and diversity of India’s customs across the breadth of the country and looked for a neat and simple 'lawbook' to govern all Hindus. Manusmriti provided just that. Thus they have unwittingly played an important role in the enduring significance of Manusmriti". Warren Hastings (1772). Like you claimed in your comment that the varna system is mentioned in a different way than I mentioned in the mahabharat and the vedas, show me those verses and lines and I will acknowledge you to be an intellect. You Muslims are hate mongering radicals who are finding one way or the other to undermine another culture. If you're not a radical missionary, show me where caste system is mentioned in the vedas or the mahabharata.

[@Sid-qf6vr]

​@@Omegacraftonyou guys have slavery and worse SEX Slavery . Your rigid doctrine says every non believer is the worst of creation. You better not talk about morality in other religions.

[@swamybhimala]

Very well debated Mr. Lakhani, the man seems like lying a lot.

[@gokusupersayiandbgt]

swamy bhimala they are paid and developed by missionaries...

[@ankitverma545]

@@gokusupersayiandbgt as well as he is leftist

[@bharata5496]

Babasaheb Ambedkar would given a tight slap to this Eugene He himself fought on contaminated Max Muller English version of Hindu Scriptures. He explicitly said Why he converted to Buddhism rather than Christianity or Islam.

[@ameydeshmukh6482]

Mr. Lakhani Owned this Convert Clearly.

[@keshavsatyadeo2928]

It's disheartening to see a proper Hinduism practitioner always defending it against moronic scriptural interpretation

[@bishansinghbohara8682]

The topic of discussion was caste system in uk not india.few people want to revive the systems in UK so that they have benifit.

[@dyvxpp6427]

Once a christian in India, who came from Britian wrote, "Dogs and Indians are not allowed". Still dalits are converting to Christianity. Lol. Each society had caste/class system, even in Buddhist country. Nothing to be shamed of. Caste=skill. Have you ever seen a doctor be shamed of his/her profession? Hereditary was important, because all the ancient universities were burned down by Muslim conquest. How else, are you going to pass down the knowledge? Caste = skills = communities that provide social and economic security.

[@db-ui8bw]

Many indian hindus still behave like dogs

[@reetasingh7008]

I salute you sir ,Mr.Jay lakhani

[@nikeriskeverything185]

Can this person in the middle tell with data that where in india or anywhere does anyone has to show a caste certificate before entering temple? Totally absurd . I am a brahmin .And I have never looked down upon anyone because of their caste. Todays young generation doesn't ask anyone's caste .

[@anonymousanonymous2319]

It's ridiculous, people will use whatever to demonise hinduism

[@thebestbuscuit]

That dude himself told he has been living in the UK for the past few decades. He doesn't know the ground reality here.

[@polaris1985]

I'm 37 and Rajput but I use Kumar as my surname, people dont discriminate on bases of caste now in schools or colleges in India and make friends regardless of caste and eat and drink and worship Gods without discrimation but... they do ask you about your caste, because I use Kumar so no one could determine my caste by my name and so they had to ask, I did schooling in Delhi and students in higher classes 9th onwards did discuss about each others caste because of curiosity I guess, but when I went to a college in Alwar city and lived in hostel there were people from all over the northern states(small cities and towns) in the college hostel and the first question fellow students would ask was which caste are you from, not to make friends or enemies but they did ask. All higher castes people do have a sense of pride in them that they are higher caste and all lower caste people live in misery why they have lower caste and not higher castes and so they want reservation not because of discrimination but because of they can have because of vote banks political system in India. Today it has nothing to do with social discrimination but it has become a status quo like money. HIgher caste + Rich = Happiest man/women in India, This superiority/inferiority complex will never go away. Its the same a being born as African american and White american in the US, there is always a form of superiority or inferiority complex in the minds weather you like it or not. Thats just human nature. I have seen students discrimate on the basis of area too like Harayana guy not liking a Bihari. One of my friends like all Bihars just because he was a Bihari.

[@Saurabh.Nikhade]

Hindus are not moved away from caste system. Still today 95 percentage people in India Marry in same caste

[@RanjivKurup]

Eugene Colas? Never seen anyone so confused about his own culture.

[@creatorlight4346]

Nepal has the most caste system. More than India.

[@kiddscaartoonvideosworld8298]

In India,we are trying to forget castism, but some dalit converted people are not at all .caste is a need for them to criticise Brahmins .

[@rajasekarr7456]

Its so much fun to see you guys suffer.

[@kamartaj3010]

kidds caartoon videos world nice joke then why brahmins marry their daughters to dalits. If brahmins are forgetting casteism??

[@yrooxrksvi1645]

@@rajasekarr7456 We moved on. Cant you?

[@megatron6382]

@@kamartaj3010 , because you are not man.. people will choose to make relationship with someone they are comfortable with..

[@nirajmishra5133]

"Hinduism is a living religion." Awesome statement by Lakhani sir

[@HinduAcademy]

Jay Lakhani sir has spoken against caste system many times, Please note Caste system is a social evil, it is not Hinduism, it is atrocity committed in the name of social system, it is not sanctioned by any Hindu scripture of Authority, Manu smriti is not scripture of authority, its content are outdated and no longer applicable, therefore Hindus are doing whatever job they are interested in doing. It is on the way out and will slowly die out as economic and social changes happen. See video in link below: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2ixhniEjb5qisU ▼

[@anjalichaurasia2271]

My father is vaishyas because he is a business owners and my mother is brahmin because she is a teacher and I m brahmin because I am a doctor. We should start identifying ourselves like this

[@kamartaj3010]

Can u marry to other caste? Then stop defending the bullshit concept

[@anunitajayaprakashpillai6014]

@@kamartaj3010 yes she can marry a different caste...why not

[@jackyuda]

Absolute garbage lol.

[@Vladimir_Putin_2021]

@@anunitajayaprakashpillai6014 ya why not...

[@y1.5]

You not human. You want to believe caste

[@SharkCoach]

In Hindu culture it's not only separation of labour but saparation of labourours too on the basis of birth.

[@சூனாபானா-ப1ங]

The difference between doctor and housekeeing. Why any country haven’t avoided that? Why can’t you call housekeeping as a doctor? This difference will be there as long as human life exist. ( it doesn’t mean discriminate)

[@Jay-tu9vf]

This has nothing to do with Hinduism , Hinduism only teaches seperation of labour based on one's abilities. It got corrupted and now people are pointing at Hinduism as the cause , but when they are asked to provide one single verse from any scripture of authority (Vedas, bhagvad gita) they remain silent. Because there is no mention about a seperation of labour on the basis of birth.

[@omkarchaudhari1783]

You know nothing about hindusim…. Get your facts right!

[@KM-ff2gm]

Caste as we know today is a seed planted by British...Varna is a great foundation of any society.

[@kamartaj3010]

Stop lying. Sant ravidas fought against casteism there were no british then but lots of brahmins

[@BhanuPrakash437]

@@kamartaj3010 Copied from Wiki: There is no historical evidence to verify the historicity in these hagiographies, which range from Ravidas's struggle with Hindu Brahmins,[23] to his struggle with Muslim Sultan Sikander Lodi.[24] Remember, Caste is the Latin, Portuguese word. Even the kings culture in UK comes under caste system, it's not tied to hindus only. Social inequalities arise because of societal differences, not because of some verse in scriptures. If you feel that's because of scriptures, then all the violence, oppresion done by the british during their expansions over africa and asia is because of Bible?

[@db-ui8bw]

go and tell your bs somewhere else

[@iamrebel660]

Cast System is The Most Cruel System in World. Dalits and Adhivashi still suffering from this cast system.

[@HinduAcademy]

Jay Lakhani sir has spoken against caste system many times, Please note Caste system is a social evil, it is not Hinduism, it is atrocity committed in the name of social system, it is not sanctioned by any Hindu scripture of Authority, Manu smriti is not scripture of authority, its content are outdated and no longer applicable, therefore Hindus are doing whatever job they are interested in doing. It is on the way out and will slowly die out as economic and social changes happen. See video in link below: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2ixhniEjb5qisU

[@akshitthapliyal]

shree jay lakhani is a legend. Respect and hats off to him.

[@spg6651]

Manu smrithi is not practiced since last 300 years -- 1780 it is stopped in BHARAT

[@anishghoshchowdhury340]

Eugene doesn't know a single thing about Hindus!

[@AnitaSingh-ye2hp]

Shri Jay Lakhani!Thank you sir

[@bc5197]

I was born and brought up in the UK. I would be considered an untouchable, I'm from a Sikh background. The amount of times I've been asked by people here, in school and even outside, what caste I was is ridiculous. I'm 33. Girls from other castes have decided not to be with me because I was a low caste. People tried to bully me for being a low caste, being called a "dirty chamar" etc. It is very much alive and well but people will ask you, there aren't laws to try and oppress you. It's a culture thing that badly needs to change. Look at Punjabi music for crying out loud, they glorify the Jatts, and we all stand by and do nothing and blindly accept caste division doesn't exist when it's staring us in the face 😂😂😂

[@marthanda-977]

You face casteism even from Sikhs?

[@tarnvirsingh1201]

As a jatt sikh I agree with u because I have always felt bad about it . Since my childhood I have never liked it . Sikhism main agenda is to abolish caste system. I believe the main reason of a way life according to caste other than that it shouldn’t be exist at all . Atleast no discrimination should be allowed at all .

[@linneshwharparameswaran6147]

The point is not to say that there's no discrimination at all. The point is that the discrimination that exists is nothing to do with Hinduism, and people should be educated about it and the fact that it has no religious ground. Instead of doubling down and saying fk brahmins or wtv. This would stop the discrimination for good ( people would just regard one another as Hindus ) . Many people don't know that it has no religious basis and they do so on said assumption that it's there. With education, even the most hardcore dude would have no religious basis and hence no ground to demean others. That's the point

[@advocatevarunrathi2831]

Become a hindu

[@rashmiaryagurjar1871]

Dear for some persons foolish practice you can't accuse whole hindu dharm. And for that you have to collect data how much % of people are discriminative in behaviour, and you will find they are fewer but due to public demise you think "all are same "

[@drbuddha4885]

@Jaylakhani u are phenomenal. U should have given example of tulsi das ,who is consider low cast by this mongers....TULSI DAS wrote epic RAMAYANA which is recited by all strata of hinduism(specially by bramhins who perform rituals). All caste system fall deep down to marina teranch.....!!

[@sreelekshmi7636]

What... Ramayana is aadhikavya and it is writtened by not tulsi dad.. Its writtened by valmiki... Dont try to change the author

[@anand1311]

Tulsidas ji was a Brahmin! I know you wanted to say Valmiki! 😂

[@nebulosa4347]

According to the Wikipedia article called "Caste System in India," the caste system started between the 18th and 19th centuries (see entry "Post-Mughal period (1700 to 1850 CE)) while Hinduism began at least 3450 years earlier, around 1750 BCE.

[@AnkitRaj-pg1sp]

WTF. 18/19th century traditions have almost no place in indian culture and so if caste is this new thing it could not be so embedded in spirits of Indians

[@solid1378]

Yes. However what is not discussed, that under 200 years of British colonialism, Brits strengthened the caste system, because it was an very easy way to divide and control Indians. Sashi Tharoor gave a very excellent presentation, in which he illustrated that before the Brits, caste mobility was normal. The Brits were the ones that imposed a rigid and immobile caste system because it served their interests.

[@bastabey2652]

so many members of upper caste are desperate to deny the prevalence of discrimination based on religious caste doctrine among the Indians in India and abroad

[@armadilloburns4880]

The world is getting small.These boundaries are not allowed.

[@123xyzabccba]

Nobody is asking for forced inter caste marriages but the fight is against discrimination on the basis of castes.

[@xtracell4685]

We, Hindus, Indonesia don't practice caste systems like in India anymore. There are only 3 castes here, The Rich, the Middle income and the Low income. I was asked several times about my caste when I visited India and my version of Indonesian caste system was able to make them shut their mouth

[@nathenpeter7]

India thrives on caste system.

[@KUMAR786NAREN]

Best thing about hinduism is that it never accepted the fact that their is caste system in society.

[@divineyogacentre7125]

Casteism can be checked on 2/3 km soho road More than 12/15 mandirs and gurudwaras belongs to different caste Check matrimonials based on casteism

[@hajarmatveeva]

And all drahmasutras agree on casteism not just Manusmriti but also Gautam Sutra which is much older

[@ramatgan1]

Where in Africa do you find a caste system???

[@creatorlight4346]

🐸😂😂😂

[@JayInMelbourne]

Jay did a great job in this discussion, Exploiting the Caste system by the church has been prudent way to cause divisions in the Hindu society all over the world. Mr Euguene lost me when he didnt know the difference between Bhahman and Brahmin.Jay should have given examples of Prime Minister Modi and others.

[@deepakkissunkalki690]

Caste system was never meant to be hereditary ...caste system is still followed today throughout the world. People are still divided into sectors...religious preachers, army, business, medical, service sector etc

[@iXpress]

Does Eugene go to any temples?

[@ishanvidyarthi7340]

M also a dalit and i know that yes we were discriminated but, now we are not facing d same as in earlier we will get our place in our own religion very clearly and Christianity z nothing in front of sanatan dharm. This is my Dharma no one can take it from me. And i ll not leave it for anyone specially pandits and muslims

[@AnitaSingh-ye2hp]

आप की बात बहुत सही है, सनातन धर्म किसी का copyright नहीं है। किसी के वजह से कोई अपना धर्म और संस्कार क्यों छोड़ेंगे।

[@Tom-sp3gy]

This gentleman in an orange sweater is living in an alternative reality

[@menaceman42069]

Lakhani is saying there is not caste discrimination in UK only in Indian villages and yet there are many reported caste discrimination in UK.

[@stand4reason]

This Eugene guy is a nutcase!!!

[@baqirhemraj7639]

To do away with the caste system and those who are being disadvantaged by it should become Muslims as a permanent solution. Trying to justify a caste system like slavery is unacceptable in any form or substance even in India where the situation is worst.

[@HinduAcademy]

What a wonderful solution, but one should truly investigate what is Islam, Do you have answers to challenges posed by Apostate prophet channel, see some of their videos here 1. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fX-uiHV6aNBqbdU 2. kzbin.info?search_query=apostate+prophet+end+of+islam 3. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqDJXoOYh9uXp9E regarding caste system, Jay Lakhani sir has spoken against caste system many times, Please note Caste system is a social evil, it is not Hinduism, it is atrocity committed in the name of social system, it is not sanctioned by any Hindu scripture of Authority, Manu smriti is not scripture of authority, its content are outdated and no longer applicable, therefore Hindus are doing whatever job they are interested in doing. It is on the way out and will slowly die out as economic and social changes happen. See video in link below: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2ixhniEjb5qisU

[@Madzguy007]

Eugene doesn't seem to know anything but just the definition of caste system...

[@TheGuroLOLITA]

Eugene guy seems to be ignorant.

[@ramarajs1792]

Hey, Caste discrimination and dowry came from Portugese and Dutch. India only had 3 Varnas - Brahmin, Kshatriya and Vaishya - based on the profession. Rest were called Shudras. There is no word called Jaati or Caste in Sanatan Dharm. Caste came from the word European word "Casta".

[@menaceman42069]

Stop lying the caste discrimination came 2000 years ago

[@solid1378]

Yes. However what is not discussed, that under 200 years of British colonialism, Brits strengthened the caste system, because it was an very easy way to divide and control Indians. Sashi Tharoor gave a very excellent presentation, in which he illustrated that before the Brits, caste mobility was normal. The Brits were the ones that imposed a rigid and immobile caste system because it served their interests. Unfortunately, politicians in India today are using the British class/caste system they left behind for political gains.

[@harshitbalaji1019]

That Dalit guy is casteist himself....

[@only-is-pure]

I think lakhani ji is talking on ground reality

[@rushi6130]

thats how it should be

[@rajaguru8684]

Hello sir, this is a huge request, the slow listeners such as me in need of understanding your speech want to have closed caption in all of your videos sir.

[@singularsink]

just shows how ill prepared we r to give crisp response on the face of barrage of false claims. I bet none of them read/understood Manu-Smiriti or Rig Veda Purasa Sukta which mentioned four varnas. God called Bramhan so Bramhin is the highest, does not mention the responsibility of Bramhin in society... This joker does not have basic concepts clear about Hinduism, just throwing muck and Jai Ji started defending this crap! I would have simply challenged him to give reference of the text every time he says Hinduism says this, says that and proved him a ignorant fool and a lier. I would always start from the basics. People does not know the basics that's the biggest issue!

[@shambhavitripathi6401]

It is not out of lack of knowledge, it is deliberate. Look at how he is careful to not mention a particular religion when he talks of religions disriminating on the basis of caste

[@oneforallah]

Exactly sire let's stop legislating Caste system once and for all and stop asking about it.

[@opanpro9772]

The guy on right side is right on Hindu not being a religion. It didn't start off as a religion but he is probably wrong about caste being prevalent in UK communities.

[@njpravin]

I wish to give my view. Caste system will not go away but caste discrimination should

[@harkeeratdate2015]

I wear "nihang bana" with knives wrapped around my head. #SIKH

[@arunavakali7182]

In ancient times, occupation was based on the competency of people, not by birth. People in different occupations were categorised into castes based on their occupations. In today's society, there are also poor, middle income and the rich, and there is still discrimination and oppression against the poor and respect for the rich. What is the difference between hindu caste system and today's social stratification except the name?

[@anniesingh5348]

love Mr Lakianis response

[@theeternal6890]

*This man is equating "Brahman" the supreme reality with "Brahman" caste.* What a shameless and ignorant he is.. as a hindu I am ready to throw caste system but It can't be done on the corruption of Hinduism.

[@munishkmittal]

I thought there were people in India only who make a living in caste issues. But good to know that there are people in UK also

[@nightmannomad6760]

You are right bro . They all are pure indian . And they also accepted that they are orginal hindu indian in own country , ha ha ha

[@himalayapictures]

Great Mr Lakhani ......you should do this often

[@lovingboy4763]

In interviews and in private Companies.(j obs) we faced caste Discrimination .Yes 100%...

[@nawalmridulya4255]

Gurudwaras are built on caste basis... Valmikis Ravidasias Rmadasias Tarkhans Jatts all have their own Gurudwaras.

[@stopcasteevilanjanienanlal8693]

Exactly. It was MISINTERPRETED!!!

[@thewall9327]

Wow jay lakahaniji, completely practical and sensible

[@sunildutt7650]

I fully agree with mr jai lakhani because the rig veda manusmriti and geeta teach the same philosophy . Anybody born falls on the category of shudra and has to climb the stirs by building the karma like valmiki kalidas rohidass vishwamitra and even lord krishna was a vaishya so sanatan dharm does not teach about practising discrimination and double standards against human beings

[@RohanPatil88]

Hinduism in past had varna system which gradually became birth based. What you are talking about is varna. And yes you can technically change varna coz it primarily is based on ur skillset not birth

[@hajarmatveeva]

Vishwamitra, Valmiki etc. lived before castes became hereditary i. e. before sutra period. All Dharma Sutras agree that caste is birth based and even imbecile kid of Brahmins got upanayana and taught Vedas while from smart and healthy Shudra boy education was denied

[@lakhanpatidar3572]

yeah thats true smritis are of less authority and also changes with time, Mr. Jay Lakhani have knowledge about the depth of Hinduism. I am sorry to say but the other one is fool and do not accept that smritis must change with time.

[@polaris1985]

Dedo bhaiya dedo, reservation dedo inko UK mai bhi ....

[@scoobygang911]

The caste system was introduced by the Portugese and has spread like wildfire in India unfortunately. Good explanation Mr Lakhani 🙏

[@sunilchoudhary-lt6pw]

Its mentioned in the Rig Veda

[@KK-gc5lj]

Eugene colas is not able to debate in a professional/ethical way. He is just bluntly giving statements without any explanations .

[@vijnanabandhu2167]

“They [Indians] are particularly anxious and attentive to instruct their children to read and write. Education with them is an early and an important business in every family. Many of their women are taught to read and write. *The Brahmins are generally the schoolmasters, but any of the castes may, and often do practice teaching.* The children are instructed without violence, and by a process peculiarly simple. The pupils are the monitors of each other, and the characters are traced with a rod, or the finger on the sand. Reading and writing are acquired at the same time, and by the same process…” Pietro Della Valle, 1623, Italian traveller to India

[@RekhaKumari-vr9lp]

So there is no caste system in Vedas as mentioned by prof. Jay and I agree with him so why were we practising and still practising till now

[@NikhchansGaming]

Social programming

[@Noone-gz8li]

Don't u understand cast system was always as ur duty what u are doing not by birth But with time cast system become by birth

[@snehashispanda4808]

Caste rigidity was a British construct. 😉 So as a hindu remove caste.🔥

[@Crymeareva]

India has officially recognized castes and they've categorized it into 4 or more community. Castes have transformed themselves into Community, Each community has different beliefs, different culture. India had diversity of faith, belief, food, culture, regional administration, and community diversity isn't new. A white man won't give you his daughter just to prove he ain't racist, ofc Whites have different culture too. Caste politicians/activists like this guy are the reason Hinduism would succumb to church/izlamists lobby. A poor brahman won't get anything extra, but a rich dalit would get everything.

[@tonguewarrior5020]

A person who walks on the path of Brāhm is known as Brāhmin Anyone can be Brāhmin id he/she can master SCRIPTURES Anyone can be Kshatriya if he can master WEAPONS Anyone can be Veshya if he can master TRADE Anyone can be Shudra if he can master SOCIAL SERVICE After my India got Independence, there were 500+ princely states who wanted to separate from India In these 500+ kingdoms, more than 400 kingdoms were of *SHUDRA* Kings The author of Greatest Epic "Mahabharat" - Shri Ved Vyas was himself a Fishermen (low caste)

[@DeepVerma728]

Wrong class system is not the same as caste system. You can move up and down in a class system but you cannot do it in a caste system. You cannot change your caste.

[@encarnacion007]

If one shows the symptoms or characteristic of being a brāhmana, kshatriya, vaiśya or śūdra, even if he has appeared in a different class, he should be accepted according to those symptoms of classification. Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 7.11.35

[@kushaq1173]

Deep Verma that's because british instiotionised it.

[@sudheeramara6253]

At origins of caste system facility of Interchange,after that was turn into based on birth not on merit

[@omanam3799]

Caste depends on ones quality & ability and not on birth hierarchy.. so when there is a change in ones character & ability his level too changes in caste system or Varna system. Sure you know Valmiki & Vishwamitra. Unfortunately this system created for the good started changing with the end of Satya yuga and today it is at the worst phase..

[@taraknj]

Try becoming the Queen of England! So much for moving up in the Englis class system. Lol

[@Adhyayan_ak002]

Caste is a Portuguese word Casta, Caste system was bought by the Portuguese

[@eyyeff]

Gita 1.41-43 “By the prevalence of impiety, O Krishna, the women of the family becomes corrupt. Women corrupted, there will be intermingling of castes (Varna-Samkara), O descendant of Vrishnis. Confusion of castes leads the family of these destroyers of families also to hell; Manu Smriti 3.239 A Kandala, a village pig, a cock, a dog, a menstruating woman, and a eunuch must not look at the Brahmanas while they eat Mahabhara 13.23.5 “Gifts of articles that have been proclaimed before many people or from which a portion has been eaten by a Sudra, or that have been seen or licked by a dog, form portions of Rakshasas.” Manu Smriti 4.223. A Brahmana who knows (the law) must not eat cooked food (given) by a Sudra who performs no Sraddhas; but, on failure of (other) means of subsistence, he may accept raw (grain), sufficient for one night (and day)

[@talluris.prabhakar2782]

There is question to Mr JAY LAKHANI . Sir,. Why father ( Dr AMBEDKAR )of the INDIAN Constitution Converted to Buddism? Why he told Hindusm can't be reformed,It must be distroyed ? Answers please.

[@immortalwisdom4515]

@ let me tell u Ambedkar converted to Buddhism is His personal choice, he is free to do it. Suppose,if want to make u a Bodybuilder it takes lots of effort time,diet, sacrifices... BHARAT which such a complex demographic dividend if any reforms need to impose u need generations to achieve it , it's not possible in 30 or 60 yrs ,but it's impossible to destroy d oldest civilization of earth how much ever anyone tries 🙏.Hope so I have answered.

[@eldergod4817]

Your been misled you moron

[@taraknj]

Because Dr Ambedkar was an intellectual not a devotee. It was a natural avenue for him. An intellectual cannot help flow into the arms of Buddha.

[@expertbihari]

Dear Lakhani Sir, Its my immense pleasure to write to you and submit my feedback. I keep watching your video and Mr Rajiv Malhotra's, too. (i) One thing I have noticed, when media, journos and others ask about "Caste System/Varna System", I found you both are got in their trap and becomes speechless and reason-less. Sir, Varna system appeared once and first time in Purush Sukta in Rig Veda. According to various scholars, like John Muir and others have come to a conclusion that "Purush Sukta" was added later in Rig Veda to justify "Varna System" which was absent in Original Rig Veda. It is clear that Purush Sukta was added with some ill motives by Brahmin and other dominant varnas. Hence, why don't you and other hindu scholars simply reject "varna system" or so called "caste system" that it was not present in original Rig Veda and it was added with ill motives of Brahmin and other dominant varnas. But what I see you all start justifying it by giving so much logical examples and rationalize it. (ii) Even In Bhagwat Gita, Sri Krishna, Himself has justified Varna System which is also purposeful misdeeds of Brahmin and other upper varna. Simple, Sri Krishna, We Call Him God, Can not tell like such disgusting thing i.e. Varna System. If He, Sri Krishna, has told like this, He does not qualify to be God, God Must see all and does not put choices like Brahmin and so forth. Hence, why don't you and other hindu scholars simply reject "varna system" or so called "caste system" present in Bhagwat Gita and it was added with ill motives of Brahmin and other dominant varnas. But what I see you all start justifying it by giving so much logical examples and rationalize it. (iii) It is better to reject and nullify rather than justifying it that bla bla. (iv) Many Hindu like Me who practice Hinduism besides being born in Dalit Caste feel "bad" and "like leaving Hinduism" because You all start justifying that it was based on this, that bla bla. (v) All Religions and Societies have some Merits and Demerits. Instead of justifying "demerits" better to Accept it as Demerits, that "It is horrible and it was incorporated with illwill and greeds of "Brahmin and others" This is right Choice to exercise to "accept demerits and move on" rather than "justifying it" Thanks and Regards Proud, Practicing Hindu, Born as Dalit in India

[@Vladimir_Putin_2021]

What is the definition of dalit????

[@tushkoli]

Caste discrimination is banned legally in India since 1950. But it is still practiced as an age old habit in many Indian villages.There is a lot being done by Indian Government by giving high reservation quotas in higher education and Jobs, to these 'depressed classes', but it is also a reality that once they become educated and wealthy, they forget their own people and make no effort for their upliftment. This caste barrier is hard to break really, because the privileged class will never give up their privileges. We must increase the prestige of lower classes, rather than bringing the privileged classes down or punishing them. It is found that the educated people from the lower classes harbour hatred and ill will against the upper classes for the wrongs done to their ancestors, which is understandable, but it is not the way forward...Let bygones be bygones and any person who is educated, whether lower or upper class must consider their duty to educate and take responsibility for their fellow Indians, who still suffer because of ignorance! Also class system is not uniquely a Hindu thing. All cultures and civilisations have some sort of class structure in place, and many so called advanced countries were built on cheap and forced labour of slaves, who were heavily discriminated against. In India, instead of blaming everything on Hindus, it would be wise to gently but with firm resolve end this bad practice, and every Indian must participate in its demise, and not politicise it. having said that I also believe Hinduism must be defended, because it is still one of the oldest and the wisest traditions alive....Abrahamic faiths are no match for it and this is the truth! Just because of some perversion that has creeped in Hinduism because of its antiquity, does not mean Hinduism is evil? So love Hinduism, and try to eradicate the bad practices in it.

[@megatron6382]

Change occurs on emotional level,not by rule..

[@meenujakhmola8412]

lakhani ji is the the the best caste system is been used by some people for their own benifit

[@RohanPatil88]

Dr Lakhani please check how Indian arrange marriage works and how matrimony sites use caste as a category! If hereditary caste system does not exist then why do they have these categories even now! And if you say this birth based system came later why was Karna discriminated in Mahabharata!

[@DattaMusics]

Karna was the son of Surya so people knew that and even after that they discriminated and then go to Mahabharat and see Vidur you never talked about these things because you know your this is will fall who was vidura with dasiputra who was Matunga Maharishi home Shri Ram visited Chandal Putra there are ample examples like this

[@DattaMusics]

There are too many examples like this goddess matangi Vidur Valmiki who are these people ??... Bhishma discriminated against karna and Shri Krishna discriminated against Bhishma and killed him and learn the full story had obviously done enough nonsensical Ka Master attract it upon himself in the most horrible manner!!

[@NativeVsColonial]

In Hinduism, birth based caste is a superstitious system, however Varna was the original system, in Varna there was no upper or lower, people chose the work of which they are qualified for and according to Bhagavad Gita, anyone can be a Brahmin (Teacher, Scholar profession), Shatriya (Warrior, Army profession), Vaishya (Trader, Business profession), Shudra (Other social workers) based on as per their skills, knowledge, and capabilities: 🔹In Bhagavad Gita 4:13, Krishna says that he created different Varnas (Profession) on the basis of one's Karma (Activity) and Guna (Quality). 🔹Bhagavad Gita 5:18 "The truly learned, with the eyes of divine knowledge, see with equal vision a Brahmin, a cow, an elephant, a dog, and a dog-eater" 🔹Bhagavad Gita 9:29 "I am equally disposed to all living entities: there is neither friend nor foe to Me: but those who with living sentiments render divotional service unto Me, such persons are in Me and I am in them." 🔹Bhagavad Gita 18:41 "The duties of the Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, and Shudras are distributed in accordance with their guṇas (quality) and not by birth. Caste is a Spanish and Portuguese word 'casta' which stands for 'Breed' or 'lineage'. During earlier times Caste use to be Varna (Profession) and based on merit and not merely by birth, I can give instances from the ancient times, where a so-called modern day "lower caste" moved to "upper caste", e.g. Guru Valmiki, Kabir Das was from a shudra family but became a brahmin based on merit, etc and btw Ravana, his younger brother Kumbhakarna all were Brahmins knowledgeable person from Northern India but because of their notorious activities all were punished by Rama (believed to be an OBC if we abide by today's caste categorization). Lastly, you have to understand the British motive behind imposing caste: The Caucasians (Europeans) created Hutus and Tutsis in Rwanda, Africa, to divide and control the native population, and for this reason, the Rwanda Genocide occurred. The same attempts and inequalities Europeans also tried to create amongst Indians by separating Northern India and Southern India into "Aryans" VS "Dravidians" and further dividing Hinduism into 3,000 castes and 25,000 sub-castes. And also read about Herbert Hope Risley who created casteism, racism in Indian society by one's facial features and skin color, and Bishop Robert Caldwell who propagated the "Aryan Invasion" in Southern India to convert "Dravidians" into Christianity. Read the book 'Castes of Mind' by Nicholas Dirks

[@raj98510]

Jay made an excellent point when he gave the example of the child being asked to find out his caste when in reality, he would not be aware of it.... It's another western policy to further divide humanity for political gain

[@WelfareChrist]

The idea that in one generation you can undo hundreds of generations worth of systemic oppression is something you'd really only argue if you somehow benefit from arguing it, because it's just clearly not true. Apparently it's very visible in Silicon Valley because of how many first generation Indian immigrants work there (there's a bunch of articles on it), which is to say even amongst an educated and moneyed class in another country the caste system is still present.

[@sudheeramara6253]

Dalit scholars should come out from medieval society,they exploring the books written by Westerns who misunderstood and misintrepreted the Bharat and cultures and our scriptures

[@hemanshuchudasama3535]

Lol

[@321sarahbob]

Very interesting. Also I think some people in the comments are being a little unnecessarily hostile... So Mr. Culas (they misspelled his last name in the video btw) has been campaigning to end caste discrimination for a lot of his life it seems, which is a very noble thing to take up. However, predictably, this has also given him a very biased view on Hinduism, which is sad. It is sad, because Mr. Lakhani is actually saying the same thing- if only he would have engaged in more of a conversation and listened with an open mind. Mr. Lakhani is not saying that the caste system never existed or that it wasn't/isn't harmful. Also, this discussion is about how this affects Hindus in the U.K. When I first heard about this legislature, my mind first went to: That sounds great, ending discrimination against the Dalits sounds great, who wouldn't want this? But turns out, the legislature would require Hindus to state their caste, which would just promote more caste-based discrimination- in short, it is misleading. If Mr. Culas would recognize this, I think he would realize that Mr. Lakhani and he were speaking the same language. Such a shame because it seems like his (Mr. Culas) heart is in the right place.

[@Oo7Hola]

This is why I like Freemasons In The 21st century. Everyone under one roof. Let’s argue and agree. But we have to work together in the end.

[@SuperRajudada]

i dont kow about uk but it in india its everywhere....still all the elections ,marriage are cast based in all sub sect of hindu religion even in muslims also

[@omanam3799]

Yes in all religions including Christianity..

[@HinduAcademy]

This video is about Caste System in UK, This discussion with Eugen shows how some anti Hindus try to show Hinduism in poor light. Jay Lakhani sir has spoken against caste system many times, Please note Caste system is a social evil, it is not Hinduism, it is atrocity committed in the name of social system, it is not sanctioned by any Hindu scripture of Authority, Manu smriti is not scripture of authority, its content are outdated and no longer applicable, therefore Hindus are doing whatever job they are interested in doing. It is on the way out and will slowly die out as economic and social changes happen. See video in link below: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2ixhniEjb5qisU

[@indianamerican6362]

For caste discrimination to go away, ask the govt to abolish reservations in education and jobs. Then advocate for equality.

[@HinduAcademy]

or those who want reservations change their surname to a lower caste surname and be eligible for reservations, no one can stop you changing your surname, caste was based on work people did, no one is doing their ancestor's profession now, so caste is dead, and anyone troubled by it choose a lower caste surname