Castle's NATHAN FILLION: Managing Expectations, Firefly, and New Projects

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Nathan Fillion (Firefly, Castle) joins me this week for an episode largely centered around the idea of managing expectations throughout life.
Nathan shares how he’s had to manage expectations of new projects after personal experience with disappointing ones that he thought would be hits and others that were surprise cult classics.
He also talks about managing expectations of his relationships with his parents, helping tame the expectations of actors to get the best out of them on set, and curbing the expectations on things you cannot control versus the things that are within your power.
Awesome episode folks, hope you enjoy it.
NATHAN FILLION (2020) | Inside of You Podcast w/ Michael Rosenbaum #insideofyou

[@ComfortablyLost2020]

Nathan seems like a real genuine person, and that makes me happy as hell! You hear so many terrible things about certain actors and it makes me happy that he's the person I thought he was.

[@kennylaysh2776]

Every time I see Nathan being himself, I'm reminded what an incredible human being he is. I feel like I just had some therapy watching this, lol.

[@lovelywaz]

Imagine if THAT mustache appeared in Firefly... The whole crew will have a field day roasting their Captain 😀😀😀

[@DanTasticEntertainment]

Captain Tightpants becomes Captain LipFairy

[@layna-heyhey]

definitely would roast Mal. Captain Mustache

[@jmhaces]

As soon as he came onscreen I was reminded of the flashbacks episode where they show how he hired Wash back when he had a huge mustache. 😀

[@CannonRaw]

What's that on your face?" River said to Mal with a confused look. Zoe walks up to him. " Captain" before Mal can say a second word. Zoe rips the glued on mustache. Jane forces a bonnet in Mal's weathering body. " Enough of this bush dressing, wear the bonnet already. " Cut to Mal and Jayne on a wagon with their eyes of over the horizon looking for movement. While Mal hams a scorned wife to Jayne.

[@dirkspatz3692]

@@DanTasticEntertainment Captain Magnum p.i. 🙂

[@ataaah]

"If it's outside of your control, let it go. If it's within your control, *control it*." Wise words!

[@Zeaiclies]

Very wise indeed. The secret is, the only thing that one really can control is yourself. The more you master yourself the more you will be in control.

[@ruthbennett7563]

It’s Epictetus, from the first fragment of the Enchiridion. Our well-educated Nathan is a Stoic (... & a bit of an Epicurean). How could this guy be more charming?

[@bensneb360]

Wow, Nathan Fillion looks like Tom Selleck with that mustache. Great interview as always, very insightful and fun.

[@TMNerdy]

He totally does I didn't realize that but now I can't un see it

[@BitBanger41]

Man, he'd make a fantastic Magnum PI!

[@SurahOnline]

OMG. he does lol

[@thorne1239]

I was thinking more 'handsome Nathan Lane'

[@Sakrysta]

I was gonna say Burt Reynolds, but Selleck might be the better match!

[@RhysYorke]

Damn, he's looking in much better shape than he was in Castle. He could easily jump back into the Malcolm Reynolds role tomorrow.

[@jmhaces]

I remember Nathan from back in the day when he was with Ryan Reynolds in a sitcom called "Two Guys, A Girl and a Pizza Place" and I've loved a lot of stuff he's done since, like "Firefly" and "Dr. Horrible," but I have to say that the one thing that's stuck with me the most was his small cameo in the recent "The Muppets" TV Show where he plays himself and it's implied that he boned Miss Piggy. It was as unexpected as it was hilarious. He's always been a great comedic actor, but I also really like that he doesn't just stick to doing comedy and has done some great stuff in other genres.

[@JohnSmith-wr7lg]

The real Nathan Drake!

[@stupididiot5975]

“Crap” -Nathan Drake

[@paigedickinson8459]

He has a kind soul!!!

[@ravfan123]

Yes sir

[@gregjones2472]

Fact, it is a crime we will never get this

[@colinkeane7539]

With the stache he's got a young Sully look going

[@sevnhana2898]

I didn’t know I could love Nathan Fillion anymore than I already did. What a lovely and humble man. Thank you for this conversation it brightened my day!

[@Brook11223]

Nathan Fillion another amazing actor and voice actor from Green Lantern to Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 1 to The Suicide Squad and Buffy The Vampire Slayer where he was just badass. I like his personality because he himself is a fan and understands from a fans perspective. He is a character actor.

[@ericpatterson5050]

Nathan has the Best Mustache I've ever seen since Tom Selleck. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🙌🏾🎨🎨💜

[@dhaisley]

Nathan. We want more of you. Never die sir.

[@kentuckycal5890]

How does this interview not have more views? It's one of the best interviews ever done.

[@annie2232]

I met Nathan Fillion at a photo op a couple of years ago. What a delightful person. He actually took time to make me feel important even though it was a short encounter and I was so nervous meeting him.

[@StopReadingMyNameOrElse]

Michael's impression of Eastwood absolutely killed me. Will always be my Flash, the Wally West.

[@LiLisa24]

🎶 Take my love, take my land, Take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free, You can't take the sky from me. 🎶 Freaking Captain Mal!!!! I'm so excited for this episode! Love Nathan Fillion and loved him in Firefly. Whenever my mom played Destiny I always enjoyed hearing him as Cayde-6. Thank you so much for asking my question and thank you for having him on the podcast!! You are the best Michael! Happy Tuesday ^_^ 💙

[@leahswenson7776]

Have you seen dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog? He is hilarious in it!!!

[@ultracrimson2040]

Many years ago my family got to meet him at a comic con in Chicago. I was so impressed with him. From the signing to the photo op an hour later, he remembered our names and was extremely nice. Love all his work.

[@CharleyCarey]

Wow!

[@isitunlimited]

Someone green light "Son of Quigley...Down Under" right meow with this absolute gem of a man please.

[@MarisaP1978]

That actually sounds like an awesome idea!

[@Dagnabit888]

Just netflixed that an hour ago

[@Adama85]

Firefly is my very favorite TV show. Aside from that, I love everything I've seen him in. Buffy, Dr. Horrible, and Castle. Serenity was the first thing I saw him in and it made me a fan. Then I watched Firefly and as I watched the behind the scenes of the show I fell in love with the whole cast. Nathan is great; as an actor, he pulls you in to the story. As I follow his career, I can't imagine anything he does that I won't like. Now, ladies and gentlemen. . . a Firefly reference. Mal, bad, in Latin. - River Tam

[@ShaneAddinall]

It's crazy how while this is a conversation with Nathan Fillion it could so easily be a scene from Castle or any of his other shows. He is so charming and engaging - in real life and in his roles. A gem of a person.

[@jamesmcreynolds7307]

I can’t wait for Nathan’s staring role in the “Tom Selleck Story”

[@jarrodtollett2668]

Rosenbaum, you have a great interview style. Sorority Boys was awesome and I laughed so hard through the movie, I thought I was going to split a rib. Fillion filled the room on a zoom call, which is amazing in itself you could host such a great conversation without the person in the room. I love your acting and love to see your honesty in these interviews. Thanks.

[@Maja-Danmark]

''What about a picture with a guy who looks like Nathan Fillion but a little more annoyed than Nathan Fillion usually is.''

[@AuthorTLGray]

I have been a fan of Nathan since Firefly, however the character of his that stole my heart ...where I don't even see his handsome face (great stash btw), is Cayde-6. I cried when Cayde died. I became a Hunter because Cayde made me smile, and often laugh out loud. The fact he can bring an inanimate character, Exo-Robot, character to life with just his voice ...I'm awed. Destiny isn't the same without him. I'm also an author like Castle ...loved that character. Now on Rookie ... I love everything he does.

[@ericjauregui3089]

Hear, hear! I finally got to playing Forsaken after a long hiatus, and I was unprepared to find out he died. A most emotionally delivered performance by Nathan for sure.

[@introverted_unicorn]

100% he's giving me Pedro Pascal vibes with that amazing stash! Seriously, he seems so down to earth & level headed! I LOVED this interview, please have him back on again. I could listen to his stories all day! Great job guys! 🤟👏❤

[@Zettoman]

the guest with the best camera so far.

[@blackkatt777]

I clicked the like button just for seeing Nathan's name as the guest. He has this magnetic personality that I can't help but feel drawn to. Truly a beautiful person, inside and out. I think getting Ryan Reynolds, Nathan and Michael in on the same movie project would be like trying to capture a barrel of monkeys back in the barrel. They'd give chaotic humor and sharp comedic timing like a 1940's or 50's golden aged movie used to. Just pure gold. Btw....I have always wanted to tell Michael that he needs to make a merch shirt, that says "I'M DA 'BAUM!" I used to always say that whenever he did some amazing scenes on Smallville, where he just knocked it out the park. I want to see him wear it for his show. Because Michael, you are. 🥰💜👑

[@TCT92Graphics]

I'm a huge fan of Nathan Fillion. Been following his career ever since he played The Bad Priest Caleb on season 7 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Castle is my favorite cop show. I truly believe if he was given the opportunity he would have been an Amazing Nathan Drake in The Uncharted Movie. Can't Wait to listen to this one!

[@Brook11223]

He was great as Caleb the priest.

[@InsideOfYouPodcast]

hope you dig it

[@TCT92Graphics]

@@Brook11223 He was incredible

[@rdp16rulez]

Nathan Fillion did a fan film (about 20 minutes long) of Uncharted recently. It's still on KZbin and it's really good. If you haven't seen it, check it out!

[@amandabowers9396]

Caleb was my most terrifying Buffy bad guy. *shiver* I thought I'd never be able to watch Nathan in anything. But then FIREFLY! Phew! 🤣

[@danschillin8558]

I can't believe how great he is. I was already a fan, but damn he's a nice dude

[@shawndarixey4678]

When Nathan said you know how kind you are I have a very short story. I did something for a co-worker and she said I am to kind. My response was "No, I am the right amount of kind." I believe people could be kinder to everyone.

[@bingbongproductions5569]

Richard Castle is such an iconic character I wish they had made 10 seasons

[@christopherwhite1648]

I would trade 10 seasons of Castle for 5 seasons of Firefly any day.

[@Alex-wh8xr]

This is such a GenXer podcast, which is something I definitely appreciate.

[@hawleyclan9496]

He will always be Captain of Serenity. Amazing. Our family watched the series over and over again. ❤️

[@sare1969]

What a lovely pair of guys. I love Nathan Fillion. He’s so funny and so inspiring, Michael is so sweet and interesting. They should be in a movie or series together ❤❤

[@joshheffernan3789]

Nathan did a damned good job on all the castle series and loved firefly series and the movie serenity. Wish he did another movie as they left it open when it came to ending of that.

[@davidvantonder3820]

I like it when Michael has guests that you can tell he has a connection with. That was cool, just friends catching up.

[@VanCrane]

Nathan Fillion is by far my favorite actor. I saw Castle so many times ✌🏻 He seems such a cute person in real life ☺️

[@panpiper]

The difference between lucky people and unlucky people is perspective. I've got to remember that.

[@R1SEYY]

This was amazing, Nathan is an absolute sweetheart.

[@beata5937]

That was a nice conversation. What a nice guy.

[@Jonas.A.Larsen]

Been a fan of this dude since Two guys a girl and a pizza place, always delivers top notch performances. Keep kicking ass Mr.Fillion!

[@whoopimom]

Same here, he was SO funny as Johnny ❤ 😂 I'm glad it was mentioned, loved him and Ryan Reynolds ever since that show 🥰

[@PrevailPress]

While Nathan voices Green Lantern, he would have been the perfect live-action GL when he was a bit younger (or maybe now as an 'elder' Hal Jordan). Great guy, fun actor and can pull off confidence and arrogance that is not remotely off-putting. Dude's never done a bad role. Amazing.

[@claudielaudie1]

I love Nathan and have done for a long time, always following his career. And this episode was so good! Not only is he funny, talented and very articulate, he’s also ruggedly handsome. And he is right up there with Tom Selleck and Ted Lasso in the moustache department. Such a good bloke! Love him. Thanks Michael for another great episode!

[@claudielaudie1]

And thanks for my shout out from the StageIt win. Probably the only time I’ll hear my name on IOU. 😂

[@LiLisa24]

@@claudielaudie1 that was awesome hearing your name on the podcast!! You deserve it my friend. So happy for you ❤️

[@nathanfillion3301]

Thank you I really appreciate the lovely comment and kind words, I just what to say thank you for supporting me. i hope I"ll always give you the best. I want you to send me a direct message via hangout using my personal email, also endeavor to add your name to the text so I can know your the one texting because, I don't reply unnecessary messages. Hangouts mail: [e-mail] ☺️☺️🌹

[@rizvaldo7209]

@@nathanfillion3301 the real Nathan Fillion would not have zero subscribers 🤣🤣🤣

[@pillcursmelly5851]

@@rizvaldo7209 or publicly advertise his email address:)

[@fotoeins]

Michael, your Johnny Carson impersonation was pure gold; glad you got Ed McMahon ROTFL.

[@charlesfarley28]

O Captain! My Captain!

[@pennyhancock5197]

Michael is very successful to me and i love his podcast! Will always love Lex and what his character was to Smallville!

[@kylegibson5432]

Man, I'm a city worker, it's so nice to hear two grown men have a conversation without swearing.

[@bethannawhite2275]

I am just a grandmother from Tulsa Oklahoma but I just love your podcast! My husband and I are watching Smallville on Hulu for the first time. At the end of every one of your podcast I just wish I could give you a hug. You are enough! Don’t forget that

[@joshuaaustin4355]

Why does this only have 101k views (at the moment). It was great. Rosenbaum was great. Fillion is awesome! The conversation between them was so natural. Amazing! Sounds just like my buddies and I hanging out. Loved it! Great job.

[@JustS0meChick]

What a just utterly lovely man. Cool when your heroes turn out to actually be good people.

[@haloed-hero]

Nathan's a cool guy, super down to earth and has an every other man type quality. You jus wanna see people like Nathan win

[@esthervaneijk4586]

Just turned 42 and hearing Nathan's advice about letting go things outside your control... best advice ever.

[@kerrietc]

Canadians represent! Just a wonderful person... who happens to look like Tom Sellek So inspiring. I knew I liked Mr. Fillion but now I love him. Thanks for this. And you would have been an excellent teacher/therapist

[@PeaceFan1]

LOVED Nathan on " Castle ".. SUCH a Great Show and he and Stana had SUCH Amazing Chemistry!!! xoxo

[@jowalnut8822]

Thanks Michael. Nathan is such a lovely guy, a great actor and above all a great human being.

[@rajivc1]

Love this guy! Dr. Horrible's Sing-A-Long Blog is one of my favorite musicals. Seems like a genuinely nice and humble guy. Awesome interview

[@InsideOfYouPodcast]

Couldn't agree more!

[@BrandonHeat243]

He really is a nice guy. When I was a kid I was working at my small town movie theater and we happened to have a promo showing of Serenity with some of the actors. Nathan being one of them. I was working the snack bar and during the middle of the movie he came out to get a hot dog. He was with some other guy. Not entirely sure who the other guy was. Anyway, I was just a kid and I was a huge fan of Buffy and Firefly so I was pretty nervous and too shy to like fanboy out or anything. I tell Nathan that it's $2 for the hot dog or whatever and he starts to go for his wallet and the guy with him looks at me and says "No, no, no. He doesn't have to pay for it. Put it on our tab." and I'm like "Uhh...we don't have tabs here..." and I start to kind of freak because I didn't want to make a big deal about it but I'd get in trouble if inventory was off. And the other guy starts to brow beat me a bit and then tells me to find my manager. Nathan then calmed the situation down, got rid of the other guy, politely paid for the hot dog and went back to the movie. Nothing all that dramatic but little moments like that say a lot about someones character.

[@ManyfiresWoman]

So much energy. And charm. What a lovely man!

[@RachelStClair-pw5be]

I love that his whole family has gift closets. My husband teases me because I use a closet in our garage as a gift closet, but now I am going to tell him Nathan Fillion does too. I am not the only one.

[@ACGreviews]

Damn the dude aged in reverse

[@jesse2450]

I love it when people find out what a hoser is

[@jeffreyknutson]

I stumbled upon your channel while looking for interviews with Nathan and your show came up. I loved you on Smallville, and I've watched and heard you in movies and games - but I didn't know about your show. (How did that happen?!) I watched the show and was totally entertained! Now I've gotta go back and watch every show you've ever done! I LOVE IT! And now I'm addicted! AWESOME!! You drop your commercials in the show like old radio programs, and it just makes me feel happy. I gotta buy merch!

[@RTS907]

Thanks Michael, Nathan is one of my most favorite of all people, that I will never meet! ♥️

[@MsJosefinAndersson]

I loved your chat. Nathan feels so genuine.

[@HeddaHopscotch]

He is always such a "real guy' when I see him interviewed. Huge Castle fan here. Great interview. Thanks!

[@gabriellunoch6346]

This was my favourite one yet. Nathan is so natural and unguarded.

[@rossfunderburk]

THAT. MUSTACHE. IS. AWESOME.

[@Gnarledwolf]

One of my all time favorite actors!

[@ArticWolfv]

Fillion and you should do a podcast each week that is title "total Zen with Nathan" and its just you to having a 3rd wheel that needs to calm down and you facilitating Nathan getting people to manage their expectations.

[@BarriePoole]

Nathan is a class act! Super guy with an awesome sense of humor! Great interview!

[@barone8889]

THE ROOKIE!!! Awesome! Love the show!

[@lawrencehawkins9642]

I absolutely loved that it ended with "Love you man". "Love you, too". This was my first "Inside of You" video and I can't wait to see them all!

[@alexanderverdoodt]

The guest list on this podcast is just amazing. Great podcast.

[@InsideOfYouPodcast]

appreciate it :)

[@banjosandwitch]

this episode brought back some nostalgia for me, my late mom and i loved to watch Castle together and it will always a smile to my heart when Fillion is on screen. working my way through your episodes Rosey next up Bob Odenkirk

[@JasonRyanWilson]

OMG! Joey Buchanan from On Life To Live! Yes when I was 16 my girlfriend would make me watch soaps. Love, Nathan Fillion. Great podcast, Michael.

[@vaskylark]

LOL I remember him on OLTL but love him from Firefly.

[@persaunna]

Oh SO excited for this interview!! Really loving your podcast. You are killing it!! Thank you.

[@moder_nord2475]

I just LOVE this man...!!

[@iLoveBlink182sTom]

So excited for this one! Always loved Nathan! Thanks for always getting such amazing guest Rosenbaum! ♥️

[@InsideOfYouPodcast]

Hope you enjoyed it!

[@natashaheath1]

This was an awesome interview. Thank you, Michael!

[@sandrajoiner19]

Loved this interview! Love Nathan and you Michael! I could listen to you all day!❤️

[@maureenstevenson2923]

One the best Inside of You podcasts yet sir, Michael!

[@Lerah99]

This was a DELIGHT to watch!

[@hawkeye1448]

I love this podcast. I always feel better after listening. Thank you

[@ganseytheiiird]

You're such a great host! Thank you so much for this wonderful series

[@lukas1658]

Man such a great show/podcast! and this was another testament to that!

[@carlymestep9001]

This is one of the best interviews I’ve ever seen.

[@bdtuttle]

Two of my favorite guys on the planet. Just down to earth and amazing.

[@wiz1forme]

That was sooo good. I love Nathan so much. And i really love watching you talk to all these people. I feel like you just bring everything down to earth and i love it. Keep up the good work Michael, you are the best.

[@mackenzie98]

I loved this interview. Just a couple of great guys (who you can tell have a mutual genuine respect for each other) having a great conversation.

[@JeffdaRev]

I was so upset that Nathan was not chosen for the Uncharted movie. I think of him every time I play the Uncharted games. As well as Firefly; those higher-ups were so stupid to cancel that series. It was the best thing ever!!

[@11Bbq]

Thanks for the therapy session. I genuinely feel better after listening to this. 👍🏼

[@The280TimesTriviaChannel]

I've watched a bunch of the clips of your shows with various guests, Enjoyed them all and its always "I gotta make some time" this was the first one I've watched in full.. I made the time. Thank you. very enjoyable.

[@bandotaku]

I love Nathan so much! Dr. Horrible, Firefly, Serenity, that Peter Johnson movie, as Green Lantern, he's such a delight to watch. That mustache really suits him for some reason. I don't think in a Tom Sellek way, but he looks at home in it. Like a dad in the 80s.

[@gaara24sand]

OMG What a guest, thank you for this episode been such a big fan of Nathan since Firefly.

[@duncandavenport1138]

What an uplifting and insightful interview. Thanks to Michael and Nathan for this tonic as we deal with life during a pandemic. There are some important life lessons here in all the fun. Just fantastic!

[@gozirraizroose]

What a great conversation. I'd never seen your channel before, it just popped up on my timeline, and I've been a fan of Nathan's for a long time. Good enough interview that I've subscribed and when I get some time I'll go back through your catalog. Thanks again!

[@frozenfrost5647]

Thank you Michael and Nathan i learned so much from this.

[@deannhunt6615]

Love Nathan & all his work! Great interview!

[@Letter10music]

Finally getting around to watching this episode. As a Newfoundlander it was funny hearing those town names mentioned.

[@md28stads]

Nathan Fillion is such a cool guy!

[@Lurklen]

I love this guy, he's like a cool uncle. His desire to just sort of enjoy life is a great aspiration, and I'm glad he's been able to build that life for himself.