The Return Of The SORROW Lantern

[@CasuallyComics]

Justice for Nathan?

[@ManuelDietrichsteiner]

Yes .

[@erikbihari3625]

Not know, and care. Just exactly, how many plane related comicbook characters are called"carol"? Thus fare have two nickles!

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Nathan is the Kite-Man of this comic. Hope he gets his redemption arc soon

[@sonicguyver7445]

#justicefornathan

[@erikbihari3625]

@@halfmettlealchemist8076. Wait, his sorrow man now? Instant downgrade!

[@darryljack6612]

I like the idea that the Ring is a Parasitic one, like that of the Orange light of Greed and Indigo light of Compassion. Where it doesn't choose it's users based off a strong emotion alone, but can inflict the essence of the Emotion just by wearing or being near it. Also hell no, i dont feel anything for Hal and Carol. They do this nonsense all the damn time.

[@MidnightAge]

I think that's a very good idea, I like that a lot. I could see a narrative where it is specifically because of Hal and Carol's proximity and involvement that the ring of sorrow chose Nate. Will and Love seem like antithetical to a kind of existential, unrestrained Sorrow. Perhaps their rather selfish, unheroic demonstration of their own feelings without regard to Nate's is specifically why the ring chose Nate. Or perhaps their utter callous lack of regard to Nate's feelings manifested it. Nate seemed like a genuine dude and a respectful significant other. Even just from what Sasha shared he expressed interest in Carol's feelings and concern for her well-being multiple times. It genuinely feels like he was the wronged party here.

[@seeleunit2000]

I don't get why they have to couple up superheroes... Especially when they're relationships aren't that interesting and so contrived

[@Bogkun]

If there is one thing the universe abhors it’s imbalance, so when two of the most powerful emotions existing not for themselves but for each other, this would cause an imbalance so great that the emotional spectrum would have to do something to balance it all out. It needed to do something to break the two of them up and bring things back the way they’re supposed to. Sorrow exists when love has existed and has been rejected and so reaches out to crush all love in the environment. You ever been at a couple’s get together after being ditched? You would do anything to make all of those happy couples around you as miserable as you. With regard to will, in the face of sorrow, all will evaporates. As the Sorrow affected Dove states, there is no point to doing anything in this world when confronted by absolute sorrow. My theory, Hal’s gonna go up against Nate and find all his power drained away, carp is going to find hers warped and corrupted and out of her control and the two are going to see just how bad being together is not just for themselves, but for the emotional spectrum in the universe as a whole and break up, thus righting things again. Sure the comic seems to be showing them together in a happy hero light, but as we all know, pride always comes before the fall. They are delusional in their positions that there is nothing to regret with what they’ve done and that being together is for the best and the writers will flip this around as the realization of the truth hits them. Mark my words.

[@ProjektTaku]

@@seeleunit2000 Carol wasn't even a hero originally. She was a villain, and her villain persona came after she was just a regular love interest for Hal. Also, Hal and Carol's relationship's is one of the most interesting comic relationship's period.

[@d.francescovalls9321]

*[Hal & Carol seem pretty] toxic, and I've kinda hated them since I started reading in the 90s. *[edit]

[@gunfighter009]

If people are calling Nathan an incel then that term has officially lost all meaning it ever had

[@HyattHyatt3179]

Right? Even if the point was that he had been horrible to Carol (which he wasn't) then that still wouldn't be the right word as he'd fall into depressive/obsessive lover territory which isn't the same thing. But it's probably more to do with it being a recognizable term and his behavior as a lantern coming across as manipulative, obsessive, and destructive and not really with what the word actually means.

[@Ronin_Vector]

I want to see the Incel Lantern Corp now though.

[@zufalllx]

It did that a long long time ago.

[@negligible_reality]

Buzzwords like "incel", "woke", etc. all lost their meaning a long time ago lol. They get overused and misused so often, especially online, and have become completely divorced from their original meanings and become just catch-all terms to be thrown around.

[@Maskedmenace8267]

​@@Ronin_Vector niw letsws think do you wanna see the incel lanterns or do you wanna see what you think a incel is

[@Halovex]

Poor Nathan. He read as a genuinely likeable, loyal guy who got used and abused and then ultimately discarded by Carol. I hope he finds some sort of peace and Hal and Carol deserve some sort of karmic comeuppance for this. We’ll see if that happens though. Depression and sorrow aren’t a zero sum game, you can’t help someone with their anguish by saying someone else has it worse… Calling him an incel lantern is just blaming him for having feelings other than anger as a man. It’s a hideous take.

[@MatthiasPendragon]

@Halovex speaking of feeling anger, can you imagine the reactions if he had become a Red Lantern out of this scenario?

[@Halovex]

@@MatthiasPendragon Oof!

[@HyattHyatt3179]

My issue is that they sort of wrote him in a way that made his depression seem manipulative rather than genuine and painful. It's not his fault as a character, and we do see that he has no intentions of being manipulative when he becomes a lantern, and is just genuinely crushed. But now he seems more like he uses his sadness to cause pain and corrupt other people. It's not him as a character, but unless the writers plan to reveal it as a parasitic ring that's making him worse and makes him want to make the world miserable, then it's probably more of a meh writing problem, or a characterization issue, because in this one he doesn't come off as sympathetic as in the last issue.

[@meumundosecreto7694]

​​@@HyattHyatt3179for me it sounded like parasitic ring situation, he says "Kyle is not here" smth along those lines in the issue.

[@HyattHyatt3179]

@@meumundosecreto7694 I hope that's the case, showing how he's consumed by it. That would be the better way of writing it. I'm just a bit worried that they threw that in there to make it edgier which would be pretty poor writing in my opinion

[@ihavenoideaatall7381]

Hal and Carol really cemented how much they deserve each other in this comic. Imagine leaving one guy for never being around and standing you up and then doing the same to your new boyfriend and getting back together with the previous guy without any remorse or empathy for the guy you left at the altar. I had an audible WTF moment when I saw those last panels.

[@davidburnett5049]

Isnt that normal behavior? Bad, insane, stupid, but also common?

[@ihavenoideaatall7381]

@@davidburnett5049 Just because it’s “normal” doesn’t make it right. I’ve never heard of people normalizing this without getting labeled as a psycho or abuser. If they wanted to make Carol look good why not have her boyfriend be the one to insist on marriage or have Carol doubt their relationship or give him some flaw of being needy or self destructive. There’s so many ways this could’ve been done without making it seem like the writer is okay with this behavior or that Carol is some how a victim of the guy she led on and abandoned during the marriage that she insisted on.

[@davidburnett5049]

@@ihavenoideaatall7381 i dont think my comment implies it is right or good. My intention was the opposite. Its sad it is normal.

[@Dinoman-mo7mt]

At least Carol knew why Hal was leaving and Hal tried rather than just taking off with zero explanation aside from "by the way I'm a Star Sapphire"

[@Corey.Coolidge]

"And then he does it. He makes her feel sad." *slow clap* Amazing Sasha. Top notch. You got me.

[@6trillionmiles]

Incel lantern is too much though. Emo lantern is better. Not to be confused with goth lantern, who’s way cooler

[@derekstein6193]

​@@6trillionmiles "goth lantern". Now I have imagined The Crow as the leader of his own Lantern Corps, and it is glorious.

[@spiderboy43]

@@derekstein6193 This needs to happen, somehow.

[@MatthiasPendragon]

The thing is, a Sorrow Lantern is actually a really interesting concept. Sorrow is a core emotion, and a neccessary one. A sorrow lantern could represent the power of grief and its neccesity in order to ultimatately find solace and peace. If they approached it like the Valar Nienna in Tolkiens works (who Gandalf sat with and learned wisdom) then that could make a cool character. Story as it stands, big yikes. Also, Nathan is the victim here. Justice for Nathan.

[@dajohnniesanders6997]

Still waiting for the joy and stress lantern to join the color club.

[@zufalllx]

​@@dajohnniesanders6997I think stress would go in with red and joy is indigo. They just haven't exactly called them that at this point

[@MisterCynic18]

​@@dajohnniesanders6997they already made a gold joy lantern

[@dajohnniesanders6997]

@@MisterCynic18 gold lantern are not joy nor happiness but justice lantern. The closest was the white lantern being powered by the joy of life in the Early run

[@dajohnniesanders6997]

@@zufalllx Anxiety, and joy I just feel like would be the next

[@briancurtis6022]

Star Sapphire started out as a villain, and she still is. If nothing else, this story shows why Carol and Hal are a good match. They're both jerks!

[@SpaceJawa]

They really do deserve each other...

[@AnomalyINC]

@@SpaceJawa Misery loves company!

[@braynap8283]

I love how you can either have Star Sapphire and Green Lanturn be a hero or villain couple if you want too. (This is for some who don't know, but Green Lanturn was Parallax)

[@Aloysius10]

@@braynap8283 well Star Sapphire is gonna be a hero now. Or try to. Hopefully will stick unlike Black Adam.

[@johnthai6188]

@@Aloysius10 well she's on Mark Waid's Justice league run; she is going to be a hero for awhile.

[@ishmiel21]

Nathan did nothing wrong and Carol is a terrible person. Being a hurt person never gives anyone the right to hurt other people. Carol absolutely sucks

[@somethingclever4297]

By her logic. Nathan isn't responsible for his actions, because he's hurt.

[@mikemorro140]

and that's why her an Hal are perfect for each other

[@ishmiel21]

@@mikemorro140 Exactly! Toxic love is the best kind of love ;)

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

@@mikemorro140I still see Hal as a chomo

[@Unresolvedissues101]

I agree she's a terrible person who hurts everyone she's with

[@ScadrianGhostblood]

I absolutely love this sorrow lantern and I hope he sticks around. His powers are mostly what I thought they would be, but I expected the mist around him to create rain/tears that would destroy light constructs of other lanterns.

[@SecondBestArtMuseum]

“Someone better than me,” honestly, manipulative villain who tries to kill her ex-boyfriend a lot and left her partner at the alter, is a low bar to jump over.

[@johnthai6188]

well she is going to jump from that to justice league member.

[@eman67rp]

She was gaslighting the sh t out of him.

[@ramblingRJ]

The idea of a character who gains power from feeling sorrow was first done with the pulp hero 'the Avenger,' in 1939. He was a billionaire industrislist who discovered rubber in Java, but when his wife and child were murdered, the sorrow caused him to develop the super power to mold and reshape his face like rubber. The sorrow also turned him into an albino. (Not gray, but close.)

[@theodorejenkins6066]

Very cool thanks for sharing

[@ramblingRJ]

@@theodorejenkins6066 You're welcome.

[@rebeccakickass1776]

Yeah thanks for that info and mini recap 👍

[@ramblingRJ]

@@rebeccakickass1776 Glad to inform.

[@einwolf]

Classic Punisher Face from Amalgam!

[@bensneb360]

DC flashes a spotlight of tears in the sky, which Sasha sees… Sasha: it’s the Sorrow Lantern signal, quickly, Alvin, to the casually comics cave lol

[@andrefantin832]

Also when DC flashes the clownose signal

[@scottboswell6406]

I can see him hanging out with Batman's villains, like a couple of the Clayfaces and Mr. Freeze. They don't talk, they just sit around in a dark room drinking, listening to Adele.

[@SpaceJawa]

[*Brooding Intensifies*]

[@mrbrainly]

Sometimes comic books are epic battles between good and evil, and other times they're soap operas with better fight scenes

[@xelaander8429]

The 60s era silver age superman stories were basically soap operas drawn on paper

[@MisterCynic18]

Most of the time they're both lol

[@andrefantin832]

- Engages in a relationship and allows another person to have their feelings reciprocated even though still haven't processed feelings for former partners; - Is abusive towards partner, still reciprocating their stronger feelings and affection; - Ends relationship badly and says that it is okay, because they are abusive, and that the other person should only shrug it off amd find another person who won't be abusive, as if abuse doesn't severely scar one's self-esteem and ability to trust in others Carol here been a textbook example of how to identify a toxic person, congratulations to the comic!

[@ProjektTaku]

Its not like Carol has never been toxic. Star Sapphire was a villain and her love has always been portrayed as unhealthy, especially since she likes to walk over people, including the person she loves, which couldn't work with Hal since he's so determined he'll never be submissive to anyone or bend to their will.

[@HelenaCanyon]

So Carol's arguement is "I hurt you because I was hurt, and hurt people hurt people so it's okay. But even though you're hurt because I hurt you, you're not allowed to use this as an excuse to hurt other people because only I'm allowed to use that as an excuse to be a crappy person." I'm on Nate's side.

[@macaemeia146]

Damn, Guess she truly does deserve Hal, let Nate find someone better

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

I like how the sorrow... Grey? Coming out is basically the other side of emotion coming out due to the instability of the spectrum this arc. The corps emotions (including ultra violet) are all MOTIVATIONAL emotions. Greed to get something, fear to do something, rage for revenge etc. But sorrow as shown with nate doesn't motivate you to *do*. It drives you to do nothing because it overwhelms you and exhausts you. But now, the Grey light allows this guy who can't take revenge, who maybe doesn't want Carol back, who isn't afraid, has no hope, and only thinks about himself to do *anything* with that emotion which is SPREAD IT. hurt people hurt people and the Grey light seems like aj infectious meme that exists just to perpetuate itself, just like sorrow just enforces itself the more you adress it

[@SilverTori104]

The "daddy i love him" edits took me out XD this feels like the dc version of MTV and i love it

[@hartthorn]

I'd almost like the resolution to have an almost Community or Frank Grimes style ending. Carol and Hal have to win by convincing Nate that he dodged a damn bullet in all this. That they are just absolute disasters, and the SAFEST thing for the rest of the GALAXY is that they remain together for the sake of EVERYONE ELSE. OR! Nate flips out and starts acting JUST LIKE Hal and Carol to show how reckless, cruel, and petty they can be. And in the process gets himself killed. Leaving Hal and Carol to just kinda stare off into the distance as the weight of this buckles their already ramshackle relationship.

[@Arclight-Arcanum]

I think people tend to gloss over the fact his whole life he has held Hope that by abiding in the system, doing all the right things. He thought he was finally getting his reward in Carol. He even tried to give her an out and she set him up to fall. This was the straw that broke him under the weight of a life time of disappointment. But I don’t think the writers might not keep it that way. Just like they probably won’t express the toxicity that a Hal/Carol relationship has. Sid and Nancy.

[@arkhamcreed4326]

As someone who suffers from depression I adore the grey fog aspect; that is what life can be like when you're at a low. I have been calling that headspace "the grey" for years. And I really hope that Nathan's powers and character develop into the next phase of chronic depression; numb. Depressed people don't cry all the time, after a while, as a coping system, we emotionally shut down. So I'd love to see Nathan as this emotionally dead figure surrounded in a grey fog that is seemingly unstoppable because nothing anyone throws at him seems to effect him, but in reality its all just fueling the fog, expending his influence over the emotional spectrum, and causing him to passively shut down other lantern rings just by proximity. That's my opinion of the best depression based super power; you can't hurt him because nothing you can do is worse than what he already feels, and when you get caught in his aura you become as powerless as he feels.

[@BenChanNYC]

Maybe Nathan can team up with Carol's ex-fiancé Jason Belmore and her ex-husband Gil to form the "I hate Carol and Hal" Corps.(or a support group at the very least)

[@johnskrip7174]

What I appreciate about Jeremy’s writing is that like you said, this is messy, but this makes a lot of sense. Carol and Hal are destructive and I don’t think Jeremy is making it seem like they’re in the right. Hypocrisy is a key character flaw in the Lantern characters and this works for me. Still wish Jeremy was on The Flash though.

[@BenChanNYC]

Nothing casual about those line readings! I think the "atmospheric fog" is literally a dark cloud following him around. (he's so extra!)

[@mollyospikminio]

It kind of reminds me of the Silent Hill fog which makes sense; he’s stuck in his own misery and is having a hard time trying to escape.

[@ezramatthews3399]

Absolutely Justice for Nathan, few things drive you further to madness, than noticing key details about your partner, someone you love and care about, and the change in their feelings towards you, only to be reassured that you actually are worried about nothing, of course they love you and you should believe them. Just to get the rug swept from under you, the one you were urged to step on. Make Hal sad!

[@ezramatthews3399]

Also, I adore this wig, I'm obsessed with the prismatic color scheme and your dedication to fitting the the outfit to the comic theme is top tier 👌🏽

[@Ronin_Vector]

You are the champion of all characters nobody asked for or think of. I love it.

[@kemmdog4444]

I could see Nathan turning into a Weeping Angel.👼

[@CasuallyComics]

The panel of him descending from on high is really eye-catching.

[@ManuelDietrichsteiner]

Doktor Who : No

[@kemmdog4444]

@@CasuallyComicsI agree.

[@Halovex]

@@CasuallyComics Angel of Death imagery. The mist almost looks like wings.

[@ScottWaa]

Omg I'm a concerned about the amount of joy you find in the sorrow lantern Nathan... and I'm here for it.

[@georgej.2481]

Hal & Carol have never been a relationship that I’ve followed closely. Now, I want them to stay together so they don’t hurt anyone else who gets in the crossfire. PS: "Is Hal going to cry about how he doesn't know what will is?" - This killed me. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@PutzShaka]

“This character fascinates me atm…” Same, girl. I GOTS TA KNOW MOOOOORE!

[@jds3k_616]

I can’t wait for Tom King to write this guy. It will be his Magnum Opus

[@mariah519]

OH NAW, SON. That would surely be something 😭

[@stevelandmartin-khan2430]

I wish there was a better speech/monologue of Nathan confronting carol and really laying into her about how she hurt him and how awful she was. Not just a “but why though :(“ and carol’s “it was an oopsie :(“

[@zarrg5611]

Hal Jorden - The man that leaves

[@SpaceJawa]

He doesn't know what will is, and it shows in that he never has the will to stick around.

[@lorenzogeere1956]

I love how morally frey this story is, that heroes make massive mistakes, that villains can be totally justified, that the person who was the jerk can have the happy ending and the nice guy gets his heart broken, perfect way to introduce a sorrow lantern. Also I enjoy the way green lantern has juggled the tie-in and the main storyline. I wasn't reading this green lantern story before and now I want to

[@joshuaingobo1559]

I like that we get to see Hal and Wally working together to deal with Waller’s forces, Alan convincing Jadestone to use his powers for good and save the world from Waller, and Carol using her powers to try and save Nate from sorrow (making sure that she’ll become a hero, even though she was a hero since Blackest Night in 2009). I like that Jeremy Adams tried his best at combining his Green Lantern subplots with Absolute Power. Also, Hal and Wally using the Bat-Wolf because they’re the Brave and the Bold. Overall, this is a good comic. For the Green Lantern: War Journal backup, I like that John told Irons what has happened to him since their last encounter and that he has to deal with him working with his family to save the world from various threats. Overall, this is a good backup.

[@davidmelon9409]

Considering that Carol is a Star Saphire of LOVE, and her actions towarss Nathan, I think she should say "I don't even know what love is".

[@egutierrez3961]

Your voice over work truly sells this comic. Great work

[@jefferygeorge4205]

im so glad you're keeping up with Nathan. I kinda hope he gets his punches in on hal and maybe carol????

[@paultapner2769]

I can't feel joy at Hal and Carol being together like that because I just can't trust that it will be a permanent change in the status quo. That's what reading comics for decades does to you. But I like this storyline. The sorrow Lantern is truly original, so can't wait to see where he goes next. Would there be people out there who his power wouldn't work on though? Just like Dr Who's psychic paper doesn't work on the the strong willed. I can't imagine Lex Luthor [with memories] or Amanda Waller falling prey to it. Among others.

[@thatHARVguy]

Somehow, the Sorrow Lantern returned. 🎶 *Mad World intensifies* 🎶

[@The_Phantasm]

Someone should make the Weeper a Sorrow Lantern.

[@milkiassamuel780]

OMG yes that would be a perfect fit

[@kingmagikarp97]

I know that guy from Batman the brave and the bold 😂

[@erikbihari3625]

Thought the sorrow lanterns already existed, maybe something adjacent!

[@erikbihari3625]

​​@@kingmagikarp97. Ditto! Case you like him, not watch the blockbuster buster video about that show.

[@sonicguyver7445]

Really. He's lived his whole life on sorrow but the ring goes to this guy? #justicefortheweeper

[@KR91201]

what really pisses me off is the fact in the issue after the poor man became a lantern they had carol and Hal looking at each other with the caption reunited at last. as if she didn't fuck Nathan over.

[@sonicguyver7445]

Carol had so many ways put it. "I don't speak English." "I'm married to the sea." "I don't want to kill you, but I will." Or just six simple words, "I'm not gay, but I'll learn."

[@NightshadeDE]

Oh. My. God, THE COLORS I LOVE THEM that look is incredible!

[@Hi_Just_Fred]

Nathan deserves someone better

[@taniaselfindulgart3847]

Nathan, please, get better, and become Red Lantern. You deserve it.

[@MatthewPrower]

idunno, mebbe he should wait for guy gardner to become red lantern leader again for that to happen

[@samuelturner6076]

Yes, I appreciate being kept in the loop about Nathan. Dude got done dirty, and Carol and Hall deserve each other, keep their messy selves together so they can lie in their own mess and not affect anyone else. I really dislike that Nathan is being branded an Incel. As others pointed out there's a good amount of subtext pointing to a parasitic ring situation, and even if that wasn't the case while it would make his actions/words so far bad it's not like Hal and Carol aren't much worse. Their not even incel actions/words, he's not acting like he owns her or being misogynistic, he's just making her feel sad because she tossed him asside.

[@caanan02]

It's hilarious, although the idea os a sorrow lantern isn't bad - could become very powerful. I just wish it manifested differently. I love your voice-over for the sorrow lantern though! had me laughing out load! well done!

[@HyattHyatt3179]

I feel bad for Nathan because Carol has been nothing but horrible to him and is excusing it with "that's just how I am" but at the same time Nathan's character is at least to me written in a way that makes him being the lantern of sorrow come off as almost more manipulative than genuine. Which I find quite annoying because we do see that it is a very genuine emotion, and he's been nothing if not a good person throughout these stories, but the "I shall make the world feel my sorrow and it's all your fault angle" just doesn't sit well with me. I'm not sure if I like how they wrote him as a genuinely sympathetic character only to turn him into this. He comes off as the stereotypical "you don't love me anymore so I guess there's no point to life" person more than "I am genuinely heartbroken and can't help it". Which is mainly due to him wanting to spread his sorrow instead of being alone and miserable in it himself. I really hope that the ring turns out to be parasitic and we have one of those "this isn't the real you, fight it" moments where he does win over the ring but is still heartbroken and can't really forgive Carol, and Carol and Hal also comes to realise just how much they hurt people, and Carol decides to get some help with her mindset. Also why did they write Hal like this? I feel like he's gotten some hate from his writers in the past few years, what happened to flirty but good at heart Hal?

[@MisterCynic18]

"You don't love me anymore so I guess there's no point in life" and "I am genuinely heartbroken and can't help it" are the same thing. Depression often comes with hefty servings of vindictiveness and self-pity, and neither of those are any more under the depressed person's control than the depression itself. That doesn't make their sadness less genuine. Emotions just suck like that.

[@HyattHyatt3179]

@@MisterCynic18 It's not just the no-point in life bit, it's how he goes about it. My point is that he currently comes off a bit more like "you broke up with me so I'm going to drag you and everyone else with me" rather than "I'm giving up just let it be over with". I'm not saying it's his control what he feels, my issue is more how he's acting on it, even with depression it feels very out of character. Which is why I really hope they're going for a parasitic ring that consumes the wearer as much as the people around them, as he's become rather destructive by acting on his feelings. Which is in the person's control

[@tsylpyf6od404]

I don't think so I think that was just The straw that broke the camel's back he always do the right thing but he Lost what he wants to the bad guy when he finally thought that he finally have something he lost it for the "bad guy" too so he just give up in being the right person

[@lopiditty]

@@HyattHyatt3179 i think it's implied in the [SPOILERS] epilogue of issue 18 that nate's feelings have more control over him than he does over them to the point where he seeks someone to help him stop them outright

[@NathanWeeks]

Wait until Nate finds out about Lantern Corps: “So, there's a Sorrow Lantern Corps?” “No, it's just you.” “oh. … Can I join your Lantern Corps?” “Um … no.”

[@sebswede9005]

Sorrow Lantern: 😭😭😭🏃

[@aqacefan]

The voice you used for Nathan made me think of Lou Gubrious from the PowerPuff Girls episode where he made everyone sad…

[@roberth.9664]

Carol's reaction to Dove asking her to kill her was just feels wrong. She's doesn't seem shocked by hearing it at all, she seems more annoyed and dismissive of it. Like Carol really seems to have no feeling for anyone give that she is suppose to have power fueled by love.

[@oosbeckanderson3199]

Well, to be fair, Compassion is a whole other corp.... One Carol and Hal have probably been on the edge of joining at least a few times; in their decades of self-destructive behavior.

[@MisterCynic18]

Well romantic love can be rather selfish. Many a tragedy has been written about two lovers caring about nothing and no one beyond themself and their lover.

[@genisvel]

If Nathan and Punchline ever team up, we may need to stage an intervention for @CasuallyComics

[@Demona9999Marluxia]

This whole plotline just proved that Hal and Carol are both a disaster, thats why they are meant to be lol. So I guess it succeeded in what it was trying to do maybe XD

[@nate1daniels745]

I find it interesting how Nathan got so overwhelmed with sorrow he became Nihilistic. A nihilism Lantern if you will.

[@NLord]

Can I just say - this is a very cool looking wig... That really distracted me through out the video every time it's on screen, literally had to rewind back a little couple of times :D

[@mynardomacaraig2697]

Sasha's unabashed love for flawed characters like Sorrow Lantern and Punchline is enthralling even if you don't care about those characters. But all this really makes Carol seem really messed up. She already divorced one guy for Hal. And didn't she murder Katma Tui? They should bring Cowgirl back into Hal's life, just to screw with things further.

[@CasuallyComics]

Yeeees lol add to the mess.

[@thefoxesmind]

I think that one of my BIGGEST pet peeves is when writers try to excuse their characters' shitty actions with 'but they're in love your honor!'

[@WhiteRaven696]

I feel bad for Nathan. Justice for Nathan!

[@masterrbg]

Whoo! Self-satisfaction award! [becomes a self-satisfaction lantern?]

[@dallasgrey4247]

Hal should stick to flying planes. It’s what he wants to be remembered for.

[@CasuallyComics]

Well, he did fly a plane this issue, lol

[@djpegao]

_The fact Nathan basically has all of Inside Out Sadness abilities but he's turned it up to 11, is the most unintentionally hilarious thing they've done with the GL spectrum..._ *Also Debbie Downer would be the biggest Sorrow Lantern ever...*

[@zufalllx]

So, I think there's a lot of potential here if you get the proper writer on it. I can easily see situations where despair could be damn powerful and pretty insurmountable.

[@azentboyspike5354]

Your voice over is so much fun and on point lol it’s the life it gives to the comic. I also believe they should just get him a pet as an apology could upbringing his spirit. And I wonder what avatar is the sorrow lantern ore?

[@leol2926]

Nathan is perfection. I want him to have his own self discovery mini series. Eat Pray Nathan

[@noah_j_mc]

Top notch voice acting in this.

[@willverschneider1102]

During an intense battle, Hal accidentally breaks Nathan's legs. Nathan appears later as the Sorrow Lantern, but in a wheelchair. He looks at Hal, and in a silly voice says "I have crippling depression!"

[@tobiasglass7653]

Stop 😂😂😂😂

[@megan_alnico]

There's this fantastic graphic novel series called 'DIE' about a bunch of edgy teenagers that get pulled into their very edgy d&d characters world. One of the characters gets more powerful, the more sadness he feels. This sorrow lantern has very similar vibes.

[@iceryu66]

Some days it really hurts to have Hal as your childhood hero. But in this arc in particular, yea, everyone needs to split from each other. Also resisting making Big Lebowski nihilism jokes.

[@lockskelington314]

A ring that can give people depression? That sounds hella scary.

[@erikbihari3625]

Honestly sasha, liked the red lanterns for their concept, and yellow with the green dicothamy, but others seem weird. Greed not more mind's state than emotion, along with will power too?

[@kevinmalone4341]

Depression Lantern is my spirit animal.

[@MidnightAge]

"Carol and Hal are a disaster," ...yeah. It's Carol. And Hal. That's... yeah. That's Carol and Hal. The least interesting, most frustrating parts of what is arguably DC's most interesting non-magical mythos. Green Lanterns, big yay! Hal and Carol, big boo! (I might be slightly biased.)

[@benjohnson9224]

Honestly, I just feel sorry for Nathan. The only thing he did wrong was not run for the hills when he met Hal.

[@KiEntertainer]

Making people sad, it’s a predictable power but at least it’s not a white/black lantern rip off like every new ring we have gotten. I’m actually looking forward to his story

[@Blaciu]

He's not an Incel Lantern, he's an Emo Lantern

[@seeleunit2000]

Well, that is a massive step up considering

[@Achieme]

IDC if i sound like an incel but Carol sounds like those type of people that complain about how abusive or how much of an ass their SO is but refuse to leave because she/he loves them

[@tobiasglass7653]

Literally her

[@TheGreatDevlin]

Yay. The two most flat ring slingers are together again. Hooray for the Silver Age. 😂 I did notice a little Tom King-aficaton of this relationship, which is not as effective as Bat/Cat.

[@Cartoonray]

I forever going to hear this character in your voice now, thank you. 😂

[@CasuallyComics]

Lol, oh no!

[@WTSD850]

I wholeheartly belive things will go badly between hal and carol, maybe not now or a while but whether it's the insanity the saphire ring brings or just the unhealthy nature of their relationship things will go badly

[@r4z0rv1n3]

Carol never deserved you Nathan.

[@skynightprincess148]

Thus is what I mean when I say some characters need a villain arc as a treat.

[@williamsipes5744]

I think i would vote for Hal and Carol over Joker and Harley as the most toxic couple in DC. Joker and Harley are dangerous, but the harm they can do is usually localized. Hall and Carol are almost as bad, but their love problems can affect whole worlds and beyond.

[@DCis1]

The difference between Harley and Carol is Harley truly excepted that Joker was toxic for her and truly moved on with others and didn't use them like Carol did Nathan.

[@aiakumu3579]

But Harley always knew that she didn't care. Her issue was that Joker always loved Batman more than her. ​@DCis1

[@seanread5556]

It's kinda hard to be intimidated by a Lantern that can be defeated by giving him a kitten. (Because it's impossible to be sad with a kitten)

[@MemesToa]

Unfortunately, we know so little about how this Lantern Ring works that we may run the risk of it making the kitten itself sad. And everyone knows that seeing a sad kitten will only make the viewer sad as well.

[@spiderboy43]

@@MemesToa "Now I will make you all weep with the most devastating thing imaginable, this sad kitten!" Suddenly Sorrow's power grows ten fold.

[@ravenwilder4099]

"But were they tangentially harmed by Hal Jordan? Maybe." :)

[@acereporter73]

Dang... instead of getting powers from the emotional spectrum, maybe--therapy? It helped me (for real), and I have not turned into a supervillain.

[@Shadowofzero]

This is my first time coming across your channel and your narration was hilarious 😂😂

[@H0n3ysuckles]

Need to sacrifice Hal and Carol as a couple so we can get Nate back to being the great character he was! Hal Carol and Nate all need to run in different directions

[@AlexanderJWF]

Seems to me like the initial intent of Nate's character arc & the actualization were completely different. Like, he was clearly menat to be a tragic villain but the comic just keeps portraying him as a sad sack victim of himself & of Carol. No one in this is run redeemable because everyone kept making obvious mistakes. Leading it to read less as tragic & more as a satire of itself.

[@thetux459]

I refuse to accept this plot as anything other than another game Despair, Desire, and Delirium are playing.

[@demonpniff]

Love it when you do the voices.

[@Zeromegas]

The Grey Lantern

[@darryljack6612]

I think it works really well as a lantern color. With Sorrow being grey it's somewhere between or a combination of the white light of Life and the black light of Death.

[@alexsolomon7991]

I'd be more impressed if this wasn't obviously turning a disposable character into a disposable villain... I would bet money that the sorrow lantern showing up is going to have no lasting effects on Green lantern's status quo, regardless of how many NPCs get killed along the way. Like the joker breaking out of Arkham and killing ANOTHER family..... Maybe surviving family member will pop up every now and again to point a finger but nothing actually changes.

[@kemmdog4444]

Sorrow Lantern is no longer a whim,it’s a calling.

[@AussieDragoon]

Is it just me, or does this art make Carol's face look really scrunched in? Like it feels like her eyes are really close together and her lips a too far up so there's a lot of real estate up there not being use to its fullest and she has a Bruce Campbell chin I don't recall being a regular trait for her.

[@hunterfogleman7443]

Honestly, not her best look. I have to agree.

[@otakujin100]

That's, a polite way of saying ugly, which I would agree. I just wonder if it's by accident or drawn by someone that says, "if you want pretty women then go watch porn."

[@jong208]

I love that he showed up in the Crisis movies for about a minute of out of character screen time just to hand John Stewart a new ring

[@McFoxxie]

Love the sorrow lantern, though it kinda feels like blue diamond from steven universe on a DC level

[@Pawek13]

I'm loving the Sorrow Lantern. That Hal-Carol-Nate love triangle is peak soap opera material.

[@curse1756]

I love the Sorrow Lantern. Here's hoping they randomly give him a push. Or you know what? Hook him up with Shauna the Ventrilloquist. Make them make each other worse.