Caterpillar c12 misfire

[@geesss8675]

Warren is a intelligent hard working man driven by strong core values. . . I wish there were people like him in my area. . He is an asset to youtube and America. I think he grossly under rates his abilities and under prices his services.

[@samuelw.3992]

your awesome Warren, i heard you say, you just dont seem to enjoy it anymore. me im crazy passionate about this line of work, and i know your a veteran. youve taught me alot already but im far from a pro yet. so i thank you for keeping me wanting more. i use to work construction and i had a chance to go to college for diesel tech and really going after mechanic work, but im 32 now and been at this wrenching thing for 3 yrs now, and this is my true passion, wish i wouldve tackled it sooner, but better than nothing, anyways thanks for everything.

[@ShitMyPants316]

If you don’t love what you do, you’re destined to fail long term. I’ve been working on farm and heavy equipment since was kid always loved it, but my dad who owned several service companies said most of the time something you love turns into something you hate because at the end of the day you have to be making good money. And if you’re dealing with crappy customers and the pay doesn’t compensate for it, then you’re gonna begin to hate it

[@nathankisner8332]

Keep going!

[@jddiesel7409]

C12, c10, 3176. All are notorious for the bushing in the injector follower wears and falls apart. The floppy roller then beats the hell out of the cam lobe and wipes it out. There was a revision on the followers that had a wider bushing in them and they survived much longer. If you pull out that injector pushrod and reach down with a long pick, you can move that follower up and down and see the roller flop around on the bushing. You can't get the followers out without pulling the head off. There are two different head gaskets, one has a straight edge along the pass through opening for the pushrods and the other has a scalloped edge. Once you get the front cover off to pull the cam out, there is a single bolt in the back driver side with a 5/8 12 point head that goes through a groove in the back of the cam. I have seen a couple of cams that have survived, but they were shut down right away. Oregon cam grinders can usually fix the cam and they used to stock one. I don't know if they stock them still. If you use them, you have to pull the gear off before you send it. They won't pull or install the gear. It's a very very tight press fit too. Before teardown, listen for a noisy compressor drive gear making a rattle. Pretty common problem too, and if the cam is coming out, you'll be right there to do it. Hope this info helps. You're in my hometown!

[@raymeus]

He should of read your comment, he seems to think its a flat cam, just like you said.

[@elir6565]

So whats the recommended repair for this? Replace all followers? Replace engine?

[@jddiesel7409]

@@elir6565 pull pan, check a couple of main and rod bearings, if they look good, replace the cam if it did end up getting damaged, replaced all injector followers and if it's in the budget do the intake and exhaust too. There was an updated design with wider bushings in them. Get injectors checked out. If an injector is sticking it will contribute to this failure as well. Pull the oil strainer and clean it, pull the filter head and clean it, metal likes to collect right at the bypass valve so if it does open up, the first thing it gets is metal passed through it to the bearings.

[@musthaveclutch]

@@jddiesel7409 as soon as I saw the play I figured it was the bushing issue. Had to put a cam in a c12 last year for that.

[@austin_94gt18]

Im glad you talk about your personal life while working. It makes it feel more realistic and less like a programmed video on autotune.

[@rodgersmith4116]

Hi Warren, I am 68 and I live in the Uk near Sheffield, I was directed to you channel by KT3406E, the guy who rebuilds CAT engines. I am disabled and watch a lot of your KZbin videos . I just would like to be able to fly from the UK and spend a day with you, you are an inspiration on how to 2FIX IT". Please carry on with the YT video's. I used to do my own repairs to my cars, but now,,, well the years have caught up. Can you imagine WELL MAYBE YOU CANNOT, ,, a 16ftx8ft garage with an old UK HILLMAN/CHRYSLER avenger, WITH THE SUMP OFF, HEAD OFF AND NEW BIG ENDS, PISTONS,RINGS. SUCH A TINY ENGINE.

[@richardlincoln8438]

Thanks for sharing the diagnosis of the problem Warren. I liked what i could see of the wet kit on the red truck. Best Wishes to You and Your Family.

[@michaelmcdonald6727]

Hey Warren, more work at the house. Maybe you should look into building another shop on your property. That way you wouldn’t have to work out in the weather. Anyways, another great video fixing people’s stuff. You the best, thanks much!

[@Dieseltech109]

As a fellow field mechanic I enjoy your videos and definitely learn things from watching you. I totally get the whole being burned out with this trade.

[@benbaltazar1236]

I been wrenching for 50 years as a backyard mechanic, I definitely know the feeling , but I still take on work it's in our blood, you are one hell of a mechanic and I'm always learning from ur videos.

[@killerace2014]

Warren i wouldnt be near as far agead in life if it wasnt for you and guys like you! I hope to contribute as much as you have one day!

[@richardhoneywell7411]

Great video Warren really enjoy watching you work on this C12 Cat for a miss fire problem. Cam going flat is a bad problem to have. Thanks for sharing stay safe Warren.

[@martyjr540]

That's seams to be a problem with the C12

[@RobertYoutsey]

As always, appreciate the effort to post the video. I always look forward to it. And as a membership contributing member (as i hope others are as well) I thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@butchphillips873]

G'day Warren, You do a great job for your clients. With the state government and emissions I think everyone will be forced into some sort of compliance, at least till the country comes to a stop. As for the prospecting here in Victoria Australia our state government is bringing in rules, lots of rules, an infringement will carry a penalty. I don't know where one can move to to avoide all this compliance. I guess I winge to much. Merry Christmass to you, your family and all your viewers. cheers , Butch.

[@user-ln7of9gs4s]

Happy New Year Warren! 🎉🎉🎉 WE miss the videos, and your commentary to feed the trolls.

[@mayberrygobber5818]

Warren thank you for all your knowledge sharing on your videos. It has helped me tremendously. I can certainly understand your frustration on working on trucks and equipment and the earning/payment end of it. I have recently retire and now have lifted a ton of responsibilities of the grind to earn money. I just want to say that getting old sucks and we are most definitely living in some challenging times. You are a smart cookie and will do what is best for you and the family. Hang in there buddy.

[@matthewevans5915]

Thank u for all the content this year warren you've helped me in more ways than u know. Merry Xmas to u and your family and a prosperous new year brother. God bless

[@marklowe330]

I do agree on the flat cam diagnosis. Thanks for the video and your time. Best of luck with the prospecting. Take a little more time off and enjoy life now that you have that school payment off your back.

[@manddservice.manddservice]

Warren, I would Never dislike you for your opinion. That is your right. We agree on many things. I'm not sure we disagree on few. Love the channel and the input. Thank you

[@douglasmayherjr.5733]

Really appreciate your videos and commentary, Warren. I hope you are able to do something that you enjoy and make some money doing it. Definitely looks like something is out of adjustment or worn out on the C12, hopefully you will have another video once you figure it out. Thanks again. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

[@calumanderson5617]

Thank you for the video Warren, great new hobby to have to enjoy, especially geology, by the sounds of things you'll get rich quick !!!.👍

[@chenderson4969]

Good work mate! I was thinking collapsed/broken injector spring initially but you would have felt no resistance setting your pre load. You’re onto it

[@g-man7938]

Can certainly understand the burnout. Hope you and your family have a great holiday season.👍🏻

[@steveb290]

Warren funny how you have a passion for prospecting. I,m 37 years into driving truck and have a few metal detectors. Take them all over Canada and just love hunting for stuff,can't get enough of it. I like the content you are doing now, if and when you get into prospecting please take us with you.

[@user-ln7of9gs4s]

I hope you’re safe and have a good New Year Warren!

[@chrisgreeby3056]

Those C12 Cats were known for cam problems. My 98 Western Star had a 9ns and the cam had a deep groove in one lobe, you could hear a slight lope in the exhaust.

[@calumanderson5617]

Hope you and your family are alright Warren, Happy New Year to you and your family.

[@PrairieMechanic]

Warren, I’ve told you before but I’ll say it again, I’ve been watching you for years. 5 for sure. You’ve been a major influence on me and my decision to become self employed. Totally understand the burnout and the lack of interest. It’s hard to do a thankless job all day everyday. I support you whatever you do and I just hope your camera goes with you from time to time. I feel like I’ve come to know you like a good friend over the years. Take care bud

[@rustynail4676]

Sounds like it's time for a change. My hope is you bring us along for the ride.

[@adamdnewman]

Thanks again Warren for letting us join you

[@chadowens3254]

I like watching some of the stuff jeff Williams puts out he covers some pretty good geologic features for prospecting

[@gerrycomfort7027]

A

[@timskiff9422]

Drop the oil, look for shiny stuff.

[@noseeum6385]

You sound excited with the Prospecting possibilities and have obviously attacked the knowledge end with your usual dynamo attitude of self education being the key to understanding and success. I think your spark will brighten when you get back to doing something that challenges you in a different way. Good for you.

Merry Christmas and happy new year to you and your family Warren from Vancouver BC ❤

[@philglover2973]

Awesome video thanks Warren for your time and consideration top job 🚛🚛🚛🚛🚜🚜🚜🛠️🔧

[@timcharlton7423]

merry Christmas and a happy new year Warren keep up the amazing work you are doing 👏

[@rodneymiddleton9624]

It's not an ECM issue for once. Lots of work to replace a cam on one of those. Thanks Warren.

[@mcd5082]

Thanks for sharing Warren!

[@cwmbc]

Ive found that when i personally "lost passion" for my job. As an auto electrician since leaving school. I worked boy and man on anything from electric wheel chairs to open cast mining equipment spanning 28 years. The gring of cold. Wet and heat got in my bones. So i stepped back and moved on. A change sometimes is for the better.

[@jakestahl749]

I wish you were closer to me you have a lot off hands on experience have a wonderful holiday season

[@billdornan4379]

Hey Warren. Kindest regards,Bill 🇨🇦🇨🇦

[@Tom-Carraher-Fla]

Warren!lookin forward for results on this c12, sure does seem like the cams gone to me also, oh!good luck with your prospecting hobby,we’re all slowing down Warren,maybe you’ll have those yrs till 2029. Hope things well w/ kids and wifey,catch ya again.

[@docwy8763]

follow your dreams my friend, life is short. happy holidays

[@keithwallington4966]

happy new year to you and your family the white batterys are the ones to get as they handal the cold better

[@johnwesner3935]

Once the chrome or surface hardening goes south the cam goes pretty quickly. Had that with cranks that were machined beyond surface hardening.

[@jamesmorrison8279]

I will miss you, sounds like you are ready for a change. Not surprising, you've been doing this most of your life. Do it. One thing may be your phone will only ring from your wife and family, I left work 20yrs ago, built houses renos and new. went fly fishing for trout, never looked back, learnt heaps and still am, met wonderful people and enjoy the solitude of the rivers I fish. Fishing for gold, sounds good, best of luck.

[@karlsborgwi.jewell9919]

i care

[@douglaskuhn3781]

Any metal in the oil filter? Wiped cam should show some metal.

[@northwoodsguy1538]

Happy New Year, hope you and the family had great holiday season.

[@johncone9516]

You're welcome to come to the UK Warren. There's a shortage of skilled mechanics here that are independent from the dealers.

[@Skidderoperator]

Too socialist. Turning Mooslim.👎

[@flyboy6876]

Hate to tell you this, Warren, but you can also go very broke with gold. Oh, don't get me wrong, it is a blast. Very weather related, I go to northern Washington where the ice age glacier came down, primarily alluvial but some hard rock. I minored in geology, so understand rocks. Most of the time, I made enough to pay for the trip and time up there, but making a living doing it. The cost goes up exponentially, and the regs are murder. I love doing it though

[@MayorofDipshittery-lq7if]

Biggest problems we had with Cat C12 engines were the turbos running way too hot and cracking the housings. Expensive job because it scrapped the turbos.

[@martyjr540]

The C12's were known for head problems, The rest of the engines are normally pretty good.

[@ShawneeTrail-s6g]

Getting Old Hurts lol.. I do miss the days lying under my D6 with snow flying lol.

[@adams5153]

I think most critical thinkers believe both political parties are a joke. Neither is for the people.

[@Prariedog]

Great video Waŕen,thanks for sharing ,safe travels bud

[@TheAde71]

When your prospecting gathers pace,maybe you should call your channel western sieve and sluice 😊. Best regards from the UK

[@hddm3]

That’s bad ass Warren. Glad to hear it man. Godbless

[@douglaskuhn3781]

Prospecting sounds fun! Just don't get rid of ALL your tools. Prospecting videos would be good.

[@StephenRamsden-d4i]

I do like your "crack/chat" Warren, u r not daft and u know your job, well done, keep batting on and thanks no body works likes Warren, but u do what u want mate

[@chadpyett6441]

Guess moma didn't raise no fool! Have a merry Christmas warren

[@ChrisHarding-lk3jj]

Alaska is a great place to go. People with skills can make a lot of money in Alaska.

[@jacobsargent7627]

Which part?

[@kneedeepinit]

re: farmers not parting with money quickly - the old saying is Saskatchewan is that he has deep pockets and short arms.

[@jtrack33]

Moisture in the fuel once caused injector corrosion and it would not fully return, leaving an excessive clearance.

[@alwatts3778]

Looking forward to some gold prospecting content in the future

[@deepwatercane]

Warren, come on down to Florida, we need good mechanic's.

[@teamcummins]

Are you not working out of the big shop anymore Warren?

[@cupitosbornejr.7905]

It does seem like it's going to hell in a hand basket 🧺

[@larryesmith5060]

That Cat is Definitely not purring correctly

[@PoliticalGangster]

RIP Warren, I will miss and always remember you

[@user-ln7of9gs4s]

What happened to him?

[@PoliticalGangster]

@@user-ln7of9gs4s im sorry i cant divulge that personal info. please understand.

[@cluckhead1913]

@@user-ln7of9gs4s He registered as a Democrat.☹

[@ogle475]

Future reference Warren C12 you can run the nuts that hold the jakes on tight against the rocker stud nut and you can run the engine with the jakes removed. Bad news on the cam only way to replace the cam follows is to remove the head on a C12

[@leonmccall5942]

You had a code for oil pressure, I bet they ran low on oil

[@StephenBeale]

Great video. What is that software you're using to diagnose it, please? Looks useful. Thanks

[@keithwallington4966]

merry chistmas warren have a good time

[@AnthonySmith-hr2kp]

Dang it Warren good job. Check of a guy!!!!!

[@billdornan4379]

Hey Warren…have you found any Leaverite in any of those old mines? Kindest regards,Bill 🇨🇦🇨🇦

[@noelhohberger1188]

Do you still have the other shop Warren or did I miss something?

[@brianbesmehn4882]

If you can get out, i wish you all the luck. I think all get to the point were turning wrenches becomes burden. O dont see the industrie getting any better any time soon

[@billtodd6509]

I have to 100% agree with you on farmers slow pay. We quit hauling for farmers direct anymore and only haul for the feed lots COD. These farmers are always poor mouthing the truckers but always ride around in the 125ooo duallys and talk like big shots, right?

[@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353]

Oh yeah, waiting for another subsidy check from the government.

[@billtodd6509]

@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 I wish you and your family a great(and warm) holiday. That's a neat plumbing job on the Volvo.

[@billtodd6509]

Wouldn't a dial indicator be able to see if cam wasn't lifting?

[@terrellscaife2411]

Yeah, I had a spark plug Snap on me when I was removing it on a Cadillac CTS four-cylinder turbo, but I managed to get it out

[@homerdude5831]

I feel like I'm in the same boat. 20 years of being a mechanic for a job. Some days it gets old but not sure what else I would do if i wasn't a mechanic.

[@nathangridley7349]

Number 5 valve stuck open?

[@jasonbayer2096]

I'm working on a c12 at the moment as well have you ever seen the rockers flat out and eat into the bridges

[@martyjr540]

Yes That is a problem. It's advised to replace all the components at once. When you start seeing this issue. From personal experience. It's labor intensive to get down to the worn components.

[@jasonbayer2096]

@martyjr540 ive got all the rockers and bridges coming they had then in stock but we are going on 3 days now

[@martyjr540]

@@jasonbayer2096 I just did a C12 a few months ago. Had similar issues. All started with a stuck injector. And turned into a lot more.

[@dennissmith460]

Could you have a bad roller on a couple of the cam followers ?

[@ianlulham]

Happy Christmas

[@ThatGuy-AG]

I sure hope you take your camera with you when you retire to the gold mine!

[@roadsideservice2406]

❤ great video

[@ethantracy337]

I have worked for a lot of farmers, and you just get burnt out. Everything is a rush, then you don't get paid.

[@misterhipster9509]

You'd do well to inventory a couple hose hooks, makes removing stuck rubber routine. Just saying.

[@user-ln7of9gs4s]

Disregard the bot comments, do not click on their profiles, they are not real.

[@oldbones3092]

Thank you.

[@kevinmoore342]

You need to get the newest version of the gold monster. It's called the gold monster 8,000. Oh no wait that's the intoxalizer 8,000. Dammit l watch way to much KZbin But you have to admit those police videos are pretty cool.

[@erikbahena1086]

Could you use a dial indicator and see lift compared to other?

[@yowser8780]

Cam has gone flat... or something else has gone awry. Cam flat, the customer should have noticed the drop in engine performance over some time. Either way... it's a disaster, there will be metal in the oil... bearings probably toast.

[@martyjr540]

@Warren what software are you using to look at these older C12?

[@nathanmarshall9951]

Hey Warren!!

[@billtodd6509]

Warren, maybe one of these days you will be putting up a video of you leading a couple pack mules up that mountain valley with a pick over your shoulder, haha. Did you ever see Humphrey Bogart Movie Sierra Madre?

[@davidholder3207]

Pushrod/rocker arm?

[@andresfrias6953]

What software are you using ?

[@dennissarver1963]

What country appeals to you ?

[@stevegwinn68]

If customers make you wait for the money just price it accordingly

[@JACKATTACKED]

👍

[@isaiahkane9282]

Hey Warren brother I’m a bit late to this video. But when I first found you a few years back I initially said “he’s tired” maybe not tired of the work specifically but just work in general. I think it’s time you do what you want to do. KZbin’s and trucks may not be your niche anymore. Only one life brother try some new shit out. Never to old!!!