Catfight: Sean Hannity Vs. Ted Koppel

Ted Koppel appeared to hand Sean Hannity his lunch, but does he have room to talk? Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, breaks it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below. tytnetwork.com/go
"Sean Hannity on Monday attempted to defend himself against famed journalist Ted Koppel, who on Sunday told the Fox News reporter-to his face-that he thinks he’s bad for America.
Discussing the interview on his radio show “The Sean Hannity Show,” Hannity insisted he “liked watching Ted” when Koppel was the host of ABC’s “Nightline,” before launching into an attack on the respected reporter...
“I’m an opinionated journalist and a talk show host,” Hannity began. “But the difference, Ted respectfully, is I’m honest with my audience, you’re not. You pretend to be fair and balanced, I don’t. And if you really cared about truth in journalism how do you work for a network that’s so abusively biased with the history it has?””*
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[@dodopoopinpoop]

"You have attracted people who are determined that ideology is more important then facts." That cuts so so deep that one line alone.

[@Gaetano.94]

Still true, but right now you can say that about both sides

[@vwgti1985]

The republicans are playing with fire, they are not going to do good in the next elections because the fox right media think everyone is stupid.

[@NeftalyCastillo]

🎯

[@j.tradeforexinc.2819]

Facts 💯... That statement alone won the debate.

[@oceantransistor]

I don't think I heard Ted say people shouldn't have opinions. I think he was saying that your opinions should not trump the facts.

[@jorgelugo4128]

oceantransistor impeach trump now!

[@tuckerfrd1]

Koppel's point was correct in stating MOST American's aren't smart enough to view opinion news as fact based news, and that's why Fox News has lead us to be in the mess we're at. Cenk, I think you're wrong on this one. Not a fact, just my opinion.

[@shellecapos8574]

Trump and facts in the same sentence. Smh.

[@shellecapos8574]

@@tuckerfrd1 Most Americans don’t even know Fox isn’t real news.

[@lp88088]

The difference is Sponsorship! The capitalist system will never have an unbiased media--that's not the nature of the beast.

[@idybdy489]

koppell and his generation of reporter are missed to a huge degree.

[@edwardcason721]

pro trick: watch series on flixzone. I've been using them for watching all kinds of movies during the lockdown.

[@hamzarylan7895]

@Edward Cason Yea, have been using Flixzone} for months myself :D

[@DA-rv6vf]

Yep, along with Phil Donhue, Dick Cavette and Montel Williams

[@09rja]

It's interesting you say that because I always felt the bias of his generation is what created the thirst for stuff like Fox News to start with. That being said, I always felt Koppell was the best of the lot.

[@Hurxen]

It is exactly the job of journalists to give us the facts not opinions...

[@georgeb.wolffsohn30]

John Doe youre partially right but this is important: for decades now, and mostly, but not solely from the right politicians have put propaganda out as facts. The strategy is if you say it loud enough and often enough people will believe you. Now, finally, with Trump and his minions they've gotten brazen enough to label any facts they don't like as "alternative facts" or "fake news". Meanwhile, Trump had been castrating government agencies' ability to collect and disseminate actual facts. The ramifications will be severe. As time goes by there will br fewer and fewer real facts available to the people to help themselves decide what is true. When people such as Hannity continually scream propaganda as fact they MUST continually be challenged and available facts are the only wsy to do it.

[@truthseekerm.e.1570]

Aman

[@richardsmart4840]

@John Doe Also, Fannity's employer is called "Fox News Channel" - so I can understand why some, admittedly dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks, Americans might think it is actually news...

[@user-sp3gq1up9n]

You said it exactly right!

[@lcukei]

@@georgeb.wolffsohn30 so does that mean you don’t hold your party responsible for telling lies ?

[@sandycovey7440]

It's not either/or news/opinion. I'm a 69 yr old progressive. I grew up with old-school newsmen like Cronkite, David Brinkley and Chet Huntley, Ted Koppel, and others who were like trusted family members. They gave the news without exaggeration, sensationalism or opinion. Then an editorial opinion might be offered at the last few minutes. It was clear when we were given facts and when we were given opinion. In the '60's it all began to change as news was too often used for military propaganda and we began to see the Emperor was naked. It became an era of liberalism that was a part of every show from the news to All In The Family and The Smothers Brothers. We are in a swing of conservatism that is using the same techniques fine-tuned by the likes of Norman Lear (who did it so well!) so we have late night comedians for urbanites and conservative radio talk for the working stiffs, The View and Oprah for housewives, Fox News and MSNBC, depending on your leanings. Lots of You Tube pundits like yourselves. But it's not easy to find an unbiased presentation or at least one that presents both/alternate views in a respectful manner. PBS/NPR are the last possibilities for that but even they are increasingly succumbing to presenting only one view. People like myself still try to search out sources who will explain all views and options with the least amount of bias possible. Very difficult to find but I sure do long for it. Can't even put together town halls led by the League of Women Voters anymore in my area. Too contentious.

[@sandycovey7440]

Thanks, but I'm still waiting for the younger minds to take over in the area of reason.

[@cmm3699]

I feel you completely on trying to get sources from all sides cause it is so hard to find an unbiased report of anything. Even in the week, the magazine, all the articles have some bias. I like the week though cause I've noticed that even though it has biased articles, they're written by people of different view points. Plus the Internet is such a great thing cause you can find articles all over the world and get different perspective and realize what is fact and what isn't. Sucks we have to go on an hunt to separate the most truthful of articles from the rest though.

[@jorgelugo4128]

Sandy Covey impeach trump now!

[@ithajean]

Thank you sir thank you

[@roberthaizlip4351]

unfortunately even those guys were just script readers too. They perpetuated lies about the Gulf of Tonkin, Vietnam, Watergate, the hit on the Kennedy's etc

[@brocksampson01]

Koppel is so calm. You don't even realize you've been punked until you get home and think about it.

[@heathfletcher6514]

Interesting that Sean Hannity says the American people are intelligent. If he thinks they are, then just present the news and don't give an opinion, let the American people form their own.

[@PurplerainPurplerain-yb3is]

Hannity is no match for Ted.

[@almostcracked]

You are forgetting that Sean was the one to suggest he was bad for America and Ted simply agreed.

[@kccox8516]

almostcracked Hannity being sarcastically coy.Ted Copel hasn't changed through the years. His arrogance will never change. Turk, everyone has opinions, some more profound and substantial. 💘 from California !!!

[@mykofreder1682]

Hannity is an actor doing it for the money, with a bucket of talking points and cliché's as comebacks, putting the whole interview on the web is OK. For Iraq the argument is lame, to say Bush and the CIA were lying with zero proof and no resources to counter their narrative is fake news. Fake news can be correct in the end, but your opinion of Bush and war in general causing you to hunt for any story on the internet calling Bush a liar then running with it is not news. Intelligent people should tune you out if you get caught with your pants on fire too many times

[@danjennings2719]

phải 8u7u

[@HarryS77]

People lie Hannity, O'Reilly, and Carlson should be selling used cars, not "reporting" the news.

[@kingnobody8539]

Harry Stoddard Thats funny as hell.

[@garrymiller7298]

Marco Polo fox news is establishment media. there's a difference between opinion news which is what Hannity and O'Reilly is and someone who reports the news like Charlie rose. Hannity gives his opinion and most of the people who watch that now believe it as fact. studies shown that fox viewers are the least informed of anybody. Shepard Smith and Chris Wallace are getting a lot of hate from Fox viewers for reporting the truth about trump. they call out his lies and fox viewers get mad for knowing the truth. That's how dangerous it has become with Fox when your own viewers hate to know the truth

[@HarryS77]

www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5

[@purplerain5214]

Oh please hannity dont have anything on ted, he wish he could come close of being the kind of journalist tedd Koppel is,.ted is honest, hannity is not.

[@arthursullivan681]

Absolutely

[@mateo61323]

Hannity can't help but to talk over someone

[@jorgelugo4128]

Mack Gloven impeach trump now!

[@georgeb.wolffsohn30]

Mack Gloven that's why koppel had to stop him.

[@bkbland1626]

That's standard practice.

[@harveycan5820]

Blowhards just gotta keep blowin'...

[@jamesgraham4427]

I'm pretty sure Ted Koppel only said that he doesn't like it when opinion shows present themselves as unbiased. He didn't say he hates opinion shows in general.

[@tron5395]

Thank you...Cenk can sometimes be as dim as a night light (or purposely contrary).

[@MKRex]

James Graham Exactly, Cenk comes across as really daft and literal sometimes. It's like the nuances of language elude him, I'm beginning to find it tedious. He basically took away the same point Hannity did, and he isn't assessing how that's the case.

[@hcivokiz]

Marco Polo < Yup, another moronic comment!

[@HistorysMysterys]

Cenk has been a moron for years, a stubborn moron at that.

[@northofyou33]

James Graham, exactly. Cenk needs to slow down and think these clips through before he shoots them.

[@brandonyoung6612]

Wow, Hannity has no respect for a legend what so ever. Sad

[@martiwaterman1437]

I second that emotion, everready59.

[@dumpsterfire2985]

everready59 b b

[@ROOKTABULA]

Brandon Young Look how his serial sexual assault pal O'Lielly treated Obama. Every talking head at Fux is a douchebag & hypocrite.

[@angelign10]

Brandon Young Then you have Cenk schooling and critiquing Ted?

[@darinloveland6120]

Ted Koppel wasn't a legend. He's in era of CIA controlled media. And Cenk you obviously are opposite of hannity. With that said don't let that distort your view on koppels view on people like you as well.

[@zyzzyvacation]

Score: Ted Koppel - 25 Emmy Awards / Sean Hannity - zero

[@mjohnson8157]

Koppel wasn't saying that opinions in the mainstream news are bad, he was saying that the opinion's at Fox are, and he's right!

[@nathanjamesbaker]

I saw this. Hannity was so arrogant and disrespectful.

[@hudsle]

I know, right? My favorite part was when Sean admitted that, Unlike Ted, he wasnt an ACTUAL journalist, and it wasnt his fault if his viewers werent smart enough to know that.

[@xxxxmimi]

Jon Bones Jones lol if you think this multi millionaire Hannity gives a shit about you, you are mistaken. You do realize that Hannity wante to get rid of medicare and social security right? wtf are you going to do if you get cancer? or when you get too old to make money? You think he gives a shit?

[@unitedjt345]

Ohh so he was being himself?

[@555goahead2]

Jon Bones Jones vs Mandingo no gi match ends in rear naked choke .

[@k9midas1]

Nathan Baker--You mean you saw the entire 90 seconds (of a 45 minute interview) where the lying, corrupt, colluding, king of fake news and lame stream media intimated (with his OPINION) that viewers were too stupid to discern between reporting and opinion? You're a lemming that's racing towards the edge of the cliff. Typical toast libtard that's too stupid to unplug the broken toaster.

[@marcusr6201]

I didn't get the impression at all that Koppel was saying that all opinion content is bad. The quote that went viral from that clip was Koppel saying that Hannity puts "ideology over facts". It's not about saying that having a perspective is inherently wrong, it's about not letting one's perspective get in the way of the way of the truth.

[@RigelOrionBeta]

I don't think Ted Koppel was saying opinion shows are bad. His last point was that Sean Hannity favors ideology over facts. He was specifically saying Sean Hannity and Fox News don't tell facts. The most important thing is that news is factual.

[@jorgelugo4128]

RigelOrionBeta impeach trump now!

[@markfoster1520]

News is factual....and there is consequences if you mess up. So don't!

[@evangiles17]

News should be factual sometimes it isn't but most of the time it is

[@cgeraigiri]

The problem with president hannity is that he promotes a biased agenda not based on facts.

[@tordb]

Ted owned Sean

[@notanundercovercop8851]

Dave, In what universe did that happen?

[@k9midas1]

Bleex--You mean from the 90 seconds he cherry picked to air? LMFAO at your utter ignorance.

[@hcivokiz]

k9midas1 Hannity could owned by a fence post!

[@k9midas1]

Way to go there hillbilly....Typical libtard unable to formulate a coherent, complete sentence while using a whopping 7 words. NEXT.

[@HistorysMysterys]

Just a right wing troll with a fake profile coming to talk shit, probably a russian.

[@YoutubeGirlie]

Hannity is unwatchable.

[@clearsingularity]

Not for the alt right cucks.

[@ciaranosullivan9352]

S. H. I have a female friend who watches him religiously . Yet you could not pay me to watch his show .but somehow we are still friends.

[@jftt42]

S. H. your initials are the same as Sean Hannity

[@seanwhittle9595]

The closest that turd has gotten to 'news' reporting was being in the same room as Ted. Republitards of the gutter hate club unite. Cousinbrotheruncledaddy's do it best... ask their daughters.

[@mateo61323]

unless you're > 80

[@richardsmart2478]

Hey, Sean, how's that advice you got from Michael Cohen working-out?

[@jorgelugo4128]

Richard Smart impeach trump now!

[@richardsmart2478]

Or, just send "him" straight to Guantanamo Bay - I just hope he's got lots of Sunscreen - I've been to Cuba, and it's very sunny. I'd hate to think of it getting horribly sunburned...

[@jenniferramsey7773]

Can't wait to see how it all shakes out. Sean is probably a partner with Trump and the Russians in finance and real estate. You can't trust a person who is involved to give you the truth when it incriminates them.

[@vmangani]

Journalists can't always do the thinking for you and you can't always blame the media for people's stupidity, ignorance and bad choices.

[@cherylcoyote]

You're confusing investigative journalism, which is nearly extinct, with opinion. Ted came from the era of investigative journalism, where conclusions are drawn in the last few paragraphs before the -30-. Opinions about those conclusions should be served separately. Go ahead and have your opinion show - I love your show - just don't call it 'the news'. In fact, guys like Ted should be rapidly bred in captivity and released back into the wild so that you have something meatier than a tweet upon which to actually base your opinion. Just sayin'

[@troypresley]

Couldn't agree more. If modern science could double just one person's life, Ted Koppel would be on my short list.. as long as he kicked ass in the news room.

[@yahsgracemercy1676]

Correct!

[@lva2235]

FOX NEWS is not a news organization, they are categorized as an entertainment organization, like the Jerry Springer Show. They have a free pass to lie, and they don't hold back. What's sad is that millions of Americans believe that they are hearing the news

[@bodyloverz30]

To be fair, Ted Koppel comes from a different generation, where different rules applied, for "true journalists", not opinion makers!

[@Aleyaha699]

George B Yeah but back in the day Cronkite had his opinion on Vetaman which became proven.

[@bodyloverz30]

But Cronkite expressing his own person opinion, was very rare. Thus this action, even sticks out today, many decades later.

[@ashokchidige3621]

Wow suh a sad reaction. Did you hear what you were saying? What Ted said to Sean is that his opinions should be based on facts of the matter and not twist the facts and discredit the facts when they don't match the idealogy that Sean is trying to push. You took it completely wrong. Remember the facts you said you base your opinions on are from honest journalists like Ted.

[@jorgelugo4128]

Ashok Chidige impeach trump now!

[@TheDrNinjaman]

Ted was saying that Hannity is bad for America, not opinion shows in general.

[@daverumpel]

Cenk you misrepresented Ted Koppel's point and you know it.

[@nitroburner1838]

He did the exact thing that Ted was talking about ...

[@dolam]

I agree with Ted Koppel 100% on this. The Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh types have relinquished all objectivity and thus all credibility. Having an opinion on something is completely different from presenting false or skewed information.

[@northofyou33]

Sean Hannity is a snowflake. I am a little shocked that Koppel didn't challenge him on the use of that term. It's idiotic.

[@thop1321]

Leftists can't help but embody what they hate: the Ironic Mirror of Life. Liberals wore KKK garb to Session's confirmation. Leftism and the Leftists themselves, are simply bad. It is not complicated. They are bad people who have addled their brains with an evil and seductive ideology.Enough said.

[@georgeb.wolffsohn30]

T Hop that's called protest. I know right wingnuts like youreself don't approve, but protest is at the heart of the American people. Get used to it

[@bridbrennan8123]

No Ted was correct not to challenge him on snowflake ,he is bigger than name calling

[@careneh33]

7:46, very strange that Cenk confuses not presenting opinions with not presenting the facts.

[@jorgelugo4128]

Caren Ami impeach trump now!

[@georgeb.wolffsohn30]

Caren Ami the confusion was between presenting opinions and presenting propaganda.

[@garettclement6671]

True. Cenk jumped into an uninformed conclusion

[@johnspringer-rc9qo]

Because Cenk is as much an idiot and as biased as Hannity

[@SimplySamiiy]

I actually don't agree with Cenk on his perspective in saying that Ted was saying that all opinion shows are bad. I think the point that Ted was trying to make was saying that opinions without facts are bad. Because he mentioned that portraying Hannity's ideology as fact is bad for America. Which is completely true. However, I also have no idea about who or what Ted Koppel represents. Hannity is a TV personality playing the part of a journalist which is dangerous.

[@dolam]

I agree. I think Cenk missed the point of what Koppel was trying to say. Hannity is presenting false or skewed information as if it is fact merely to pander to an uneducated audience. That is completely different from presenting accurate information and then presenting your opinion afterwards.

[@andrewreid9142]

Sam P I agree with you 100%. Cenk missed Ted's point in his interview with Sean Hannity. Ted is okay with you giving your opinion but it should be based on facts not falsehoods. This is the problem with Fox News. I do not mind that they give a right wing opinion on an issue. The problem is that they just make up their own facts to give weight to their opinions. I believe that is what Ted was trying to get at in this piece. I know when I watch the Young Turks that they are going to have a left wing bias but I also know they are going to present the facts that are backed up with evidence.

[@hcivokiz]

Marco Polo < now your saying stupid things for no reason other than to show that you truly are a moron

[@minisnape]

yeah, i think Cenk totally missed the point and didn't carefully listen to what ted koppel was saying, which was making ideology more important than facts is dangerous. also the whole giving a hannity a point about his opinion that opinion shows are bad is an opinion was false logic. i'm surprised that cenk agreed with that kind of almost there but not quite fox news logic. it would have been hypocrisy for Koppel to say that opinion while hosting an opinion show. he was asked a question and gave an honest answer.

[@surffen]

pun--------your don't know what koppel represents ? how about truth and not ones opinion !

[@ghjvcgn8014]

I think Ted is not against opinions he is against opinions without facts such hannity or rush

[@Republinator]

^^^ there's some bullshit right there. Try paying attention to a fact some time. Ted is incredibly biased in his "reporting", completely ignoring many stories that go against democrats. Meanwhile, Hannity and Rush are dead on the vast majority of the time. You don't think so because they're discussing things you've never heard of because most of the media leans left and won't cover most anti-democrat stories.

[@JP-gm4in]

Yup

[@mojavedesert2610]

Ghj Vcgn 👍

[@josemeza7128]

hannity and Rush are not news Man or reporters they are paid commentators talking to people who don't have a mind of their own, let's teach them what conservative, progressive, and liberal, means. They know the words but not the meaning. They hear but don't listen. they hate their own brothers and sisters.... And call others retarded. Just because they have a different view.

[@alondathomas293]

Republinator: The media is dominated by corporations, not right-wing or left-wing, so stop spreading these damn lies about the "left-wing media", which the mainstream news is definitely not.

[@gilltom8034]

You are far too soft on Hannity. This polemic has not stood the test of time very well.

[@mrmckraken4893]

I've been watching Cenk for quite a few years now. This might be the first time I disagree with his take. I think he's convulsing the issue. Koppel nailed it when he said he's not doing right by his audience by feeding their ideological sensibilities over fact.

[@hakbug]

Let me finish! let me finish the sentence! OOOOOOOH so brilliantly done

[@nobad6134]

Whoever does the Young Turk Background Name for the Stories is a genius. Always great with the word play.

[@clearsingularity]

Haha agreed

[@KaylaMarie_]

Oliver Marawueke I made a similar comment a while back. They are punderful.

[@ice319]

I noticed that too lol... you are so right.

[@hivemind3000]

I think Jayar Jackson does it, but yeah I love them.

[@ReeseMac]

A channel that refers to itself as "Fair & Balanced" with a bunch of right wing "opinion shows"?

[@jorgelugo4128]

ReeseMac IMPEACH TRUMP NOW!

[@carlpen850]

@ ReeseMac... they call themselves Fox NEWS... but it's not news it opinion... they've been hoodwinking the gullible into believing what they say is fact when it's just far right ideology disguising itself as a news program... now that's what I call fake news.

[@csu3524]

ReeseMac ...you lost. Trump won.

[@davegreene8588]

@@jorgelugo4128 Impeach Trump YESTERDAY!!!

[@beverlypearson5254]

Fox is unfair and unbalanced..

[@christopherthorkon3997]

I love how Ted Koppel is so professional and always so at ease and relaxed. No matter how many barbs Sean Hannity throws at him, he is always grounded, calm, and professional.

[@jorgelugo4128]

Christopher Thorkon impeach trump now!

[@csu3524]

Christopher Thorkon ....you would be slow too. When death is in your cancer bones.

[@jorgelugo4128]

Hallelujah. Well said.

[@jdgardner6348]

He's half asleep! Old goat!

[@CourtneyHaynes]

Cenk, I disagree. But that's why I watch. To get a different opinion.

[@clearsingularity]

I wish I can say the same about conservative media.. I just can't watch them for the life of me. I listen to the AM radio shows here in Texas every now and then when I'm driving to work or something.. and I just laugh my ass off at the bs the spread over the air.. Fast talking rhetoric, they cut you off when you catch them off guard, hang up on you to continue to call you a liberal puke when you can't defend yourself any longer. Its their show but I love, even when its 30 secs, to show their listeners logic and facts.

[@charlidog2]

Clear Singularity They are hard to listen to. 90% lies and misleading. Then you realize how many people believe them and it's easy to get depressed.

[@CourtneyHaynes]

Clear Singularity yeah, sometimes I think maybe I'm biased but when you look at TYT, it's various viewpoints on a given topic. When you look at Crowder it's everyone giggling in unison.

[@clearsingularity]

I never knew of Chowder but he seems like a lot of entertainment and I do see what you mean about giggling in unison lmao.. another fast talking host giving you his half truths conservative viewpoint without reaching across the aisle.. basically I'm right, you're wrong _(kinda reminds of Jimmy Dore a bit on the other side of the spectrum)_. At least TYT acknowledges "Hey, we could be wrong, let's look at all sides". That seems to me to be more intellectually honest. I don't always agree with TYT either, hell they're not even my first choice, the only one I watch everyday is The Majority Report by Sam Seder. I'm rarely interested in conservative "alternative" facts after catching them in lies for so long which is ultimately leaving me with zero confidence in their credibility.

[@theos1022]

I understand what Mr. Koppel was saying. There's way too much editorial style news reporting that's slanted towards one view or another, and not enough factual presentation of information. I agree. Should mainstream media do a better job of pointing out lies? Absolutely.

[@heavenbright2342]

Ted summed it up perfectly. It isn't just Fox and Fiends, and not just the Right, but most of America has been led to become fanatical to their ideologies over facts.

[@rvpstudioscanada3991]

People should make their *OWN* opinions on the news... News organizations should just *TELL US* the news. *NOT* their "opinions." That is the public's job.

[@tubafats100]

Cenk missed Koppel's entire point. He never said that all opinion shows were bad, he is saying that opinion without facts are what is bad. Koppel may give his opinion about a subject but his opinion is not along party lines. Hannity has strictly conservative opinions.

[@Swarmandal1025]

Ted got a point across that is rarely done. It is always the conservative media that is shoving their opinions down our throats.

[@kennethcoleman9270]

TRUMP IS A TRUE EXAMPLE OF WHITE PRIVILEDGED.

[@georgeb.wolffsohn30]

Kenneth Coleman rich privilege. Recind Citizens United.

[@markfoster1520]

S. M. ......while complaining that the other side is shoving their opinions. It's the best way to know what they are up to: what are they criticizing the Left for now?

[@Iloveswedes]

And more importantly, that they want to pretend that them calling themselves conservative somehow doesn't disqualify them from ever being unbiased or credible.

[@TheUloth]

Cenk is wrong here. He’s confusing opinions with facts, which is a little self-serving in this context since he’s a purveyor of opinion. Good reporting goes beyond who said what, and drills down into the facts behind the rhetoric, then reports those facts and holds both sides to them. That process is not ‘opinion,’ or ‘perspective,’ it’s just good reporting.

[@rickved]

Cenk is partly right and partly wrong. What I see on MSNBC is not opinion, it's analysis. That's something you do not get on Fox News. Analysis is not propaganda, but Fox is.

[@jdgardner6348]

RACHEL MADDOW IS NOT OPINION??? SHE CREATES HER OWN FICTIONAL NARATIVE EVERY NIGHT!

[@AnInterestedObserver]

Isn't that strange. I see things completely the other way round. I suppose it depends on what your definition of 'analysis' is....

[@Nihilianth]

Rick, I'm a progressive liberal. I'm pretty much in the exact same position as Cenk on the political spectrum. Literally, everything he says I find myself thinking before ye even says it. In this case, I completely disagree with Cenk, for the same reason I disagree with you. "Analysis" is a word that many on the right will immediately shoot you down for. Hell, three people already commented below this OP! No. The media should just simply be reporting the facts. That's it. No "analysis," no "opinions." Just the facts, ma'am!

[@davegreene8588]

Technically, everything (but Mathematics and Physics) falls under the heading of opinion; Yet, in actual discourse, NO ONE is going to operate on that principle. So - arguments, however truthful or false, will continue.

[@davegreene8588]

@@jdgardner6348 Maddow's descriptions are factual, to the total CHAGRIN of the crooked slobs of the "right"-wing.

[@MegaLacedup]

Ted CLEARLY said "YES" in regards to Sean hannity asking if he was bad for america 1:44

[@jorgelugo4128]

MegaLacedup impeach trump now!

[@WatkinsTribeChief]

Hannity asked for Koppel's opinion and then cried SAD because Koppel gave it.

[@Republinator]

no, "genius", Hannity complained because Koppel proved what a hypocrite he himself is by intentionally cutting almost the entire interview and only included the parts that helped him supposedly make his point. That's called propaganda.

[@bellas.9253]

Hannity is such a baby! Wah, he's telling the truth about Faux "News". The problem is that Faux pretends to be "news" when they're actually classified by the F.C.C. as "entertainment" which enables them to lie with impunity - they can't be sued in court for lying in the way that real news organizations can be if they broadcast false statements.

[@jerrellbevers6071]

Republinator actually "genius" Hannity said sad because he's a douchebag. You can't call the video you are filming sad if the editing you mention happened after the interview....he can't call an event sad that hasn't transpired yet "genius".

[@greggsidwell8307]

No! DIPSHIT that's called standing your ground against the Hannity bully!

[@chroniccrypto5621]

Does anyone have a link to the full interview? I can't find it for some reason.

[@stonesoup662]

CBS needs to release the 45 minute unedited version.

[@jimifender22]

It's hard to have a take on this without seeing the whole interview, if Koppel really WAS saying opinion and interpretation has no part in news, that's one thing, but based off the snippet in the interview here there's nothing wrong with his comments. Both interviews here appear to be specifically about right wing media, which has a tendency to mislead, be presented by blowhards, and to place opinion and style over the presentation of facts and substance. Hence you get a portion of the public acting under the guise that they have certain set of beliefs based upon "facts" they have garnered via listening to opinion shows, such as Hannity and Limbaugh, feeling that these shows are factual in basis since they are supposed to be "reporters." That's the harm, and Koppel is absolutely right to say so. There's a stark difference between presenting facts and interpreting vs simply babbling about ideology. I mean, you see it here...Hannity states that "socialism has to be defeated" and then talks about the democratic establishment, and there is simply no basis in reality that the establishment in any way resembles or is in favor of socialism. THAT'S the problem, and what I took out of the footage shown here, that people like Hannity present interpretations which are demonstrably false - that's what Koppel seemed to have an issue with.

[@cycleforwardtime]

Hannity on his show never give any facts, JUST OPINION, I have never seen him give facts!

[@kingnobody8539]

cycleforwardtime Yeah. I listen to his radio program. And its all opion. And one sided

[@Devoted2as]

When we vacationed in Europe and Sweden, we saw news only reported, no comments. It was very refreshing!

[@masterv2041]

I completely respect a journalist that DOES NOT GET INVOLVED. IF you do not have vetted sources. Which is something that NOBODY had until years after 911

[@evilerniez]

Ted isn't wrong

[@crazysoulja]

Not really

[@Factfive]

I have to side with Koppel, opinion people especially on Fox News often do not make the distinction between what is opinion and what is fact, which indeed is bad for the country. I don't see anything wrong with people giving their opinion but they have make the distinction very clear. You can't trust half the people who elected Trump to make that distinction.

[@joanrobie8112]

Hannity should spend less time on his hair and more time on FACTS!!!

[@NiallThailand]

Democracy and journalism are not the same thing.

[@Spyderredtoo]

Excellent reporting - a great example of fine reporting.

[@advlandvideo]

With all due respect, news can report facts without playing stupid (your sports analogy) or just parroting party talking points. Plus we need to point out the line between news shows and opinion. News is always going to have a small degree of bias from the reporter. Whereas, opinion shows are nothing but an obvious party slant. So I would say it is largely a matter of degree.

[@LindaCasey]

No, no ... reporters SHOULD report pure FACTS in a NEUTRAL way and allow the people make an INFORMED decision on their own. Like you said though, AFTER that, the different channels should be allowed to have a panel discussion about these facts with people of differing opinion. I like that format the best .. not all the bias swaying chatter that's on tv nowadays.

[@sirmartinfrobisher]

Linda Casey The BBC journalists used to just report the true facts. The people caught on. Then change! We got presenters calling politicos,"here today, gone tomorrow" to their face! The minister tore his Mike off and left. He lost his job! Gr8.

[@stoortyb55]

Watching this 6 years later and the accuracy of his comments on Hannity and Fox aswell is spot on!...... In my opinion!

[@chandini241]

I think this got distorted. Opinion and analysis after fact delivery is one thing...but I want to think that reporters such as Koppel are frustrated by the editing of facts, their distortion and now delivery of blatant falsehoods to service an agenda....THAT is leading to destruction. To that point, however, the onus still lies on the consumer. For the media to continuously self-flagellate is part pandering and part condescension. Information gathering is a skill and media literacy is now just another tool that is a requirement. Where is this part of the critique?

[@Wildfan-sg3fh]

Koppel smashed em!

[@paulimmaraj4787]

Opinionated news is addictive and a threat to this country.

[@Ebonyleopard]

If Hannity asks Ted if he thinks talk is bad and he answers yes, he's not really offering up his opinion unsolicited, he's literally answering a question before him that required an opinion of an answer. That's not hypocrisy when it was Hannity that offered up that line of conversation to begin with.

[@jayraider521614]

Important topic, but the challenge I'm notoriously finding, is finding the facts amongst so many reportors and analyst opinions. Too often the opinion or perspective is given with the facts in it, opposed to the facts being given first. Allowing for consumers to make up our minds first and then consider alternative perspectives that may change our mind. It's hard to have your own perspective when you're given the facts in scattered bits and pieces inside someone else's opinion. Analyst often jump right in and its difficult to understand what happened. Which results in people's perspective leaning towards the entity or individual that's giving the perspective. It allows people to be programed and indoctrinated without realizing it. Which is why so many are easily manipulated and why Trump saying fake news works. Because it allows him and his party to control the perception of the information by feeding the facts through their own spin. Don't listen to anyone else it's fake news, just listen to us or the those I approve of which is a load of horseshit

[@Sam-pj8yp]

Have to disagree with Cenk here.

[@SolidStateLabs]

Sam Berkshill news is by its nature not commentary. There’s ‘“news” and serarate commentary shows.. remember “Omnibus?” The first comentary show? I prefer separating the two genre, .. varnish up the commentary, but leave the news unvarnished... inventvin a title for news and opinion, like newspapers do...easy peas old school.

[@porculizador]

have to disagree with sam berkshill here.

[@porculizador]

@john i've met amoebas that can out think you

[@piteusx8440]

Sam Berkshill Hannity is not a journalist. He even admitted liberalism should be destroyed. Hence, Hannity puts ideology over facts. My issue with Hannity is that he portrays himself as real journalism. That's a lie.

[@almelrose9663]

they offer no credibility ever they cannot get a news license outside of the states not in Canada not in Asia not in most of europe true fact they started in Australia and finally the covernment gave them 2 weeks to get out of dodge its the reason is the 4th most racially divideded country in the FREE WORLDevery fact is terifyed unfortunately Fox figures at less than 12%

[@radein26]

n.b canada. this show is not allowing audio to me, other tyt shows do, can you please fix.

[@vpcproduction7070]

i understand what your saying but classical news gathering is not responsible for a political party's inability to be persuasive.

[@peridot6777]

Koppel's point is that opinion shows like Fox don't bother to clarify the difference between facts and their own interpretation. TYT is pretty careful to make the distinction, and this is kind of rare. So I actually think Koppel is on the whole correct.

[@oliverfilman861]

love tyt

[@papiless]

Oliver Filman tyt is full of jews

[@soulful41]

You're full of shit. I pick the Jews.

[@hebber1961]

Idiot

[@obrienmiles-rhodes9020]

Ted Koppel was a guest so that's what he's there to do. Give his opinion. I preferred a day when news was made of facts. There is nothing wrong with letting ppl think for themselves. Give the facts and let us process the FACTS. Opinion shows are fine but there is no line between them and the news these days

[@tomcir5374]

Come on, Ted Koppel was not reporting new, this interview was strictly about opinions. There were no specific topics "News" being reported in this interview.

[@magarthur3420]

Cenk defends Hannity. Jesus christ. Why am I still subbed to the sinking ship that is TYT?

[@jorgelugo4128]

MaGarthur impeach trump now!

[@mannyverse6158]

Conservatism, libertarianism, and socialism are all legitimate ways of governance. No liberal says its their mission to destroy conservatism. We disagree with it, but we don't want to destroy it. So when Hannity says he wants to destroy socialism, its not ok. It's over the line. We as progressives believe our beliefs will lead to greater happiness. We don't view conservatism as an enemy. What Hannity is doing is beyond wrong

[@imisstoronto3121]

I don't see how Hannity and his ilk are going to 'convert' those who prefer socialism, and those who don't see the need to 'destroy' it. They speak so easily of destroying something and then rebuilding - I think Bannon et al need their heads examined if they think the public will allow them to deconstruct society and rebuild it in THEIR vision. We don't want to be Somalia.

[@marilynberry3615]

Manny S have you been drinking

[@lyndamackrous7158]

Not just the media, tv shows, movies, look at them from 70s and 2010s

[@pigatt1]

If Ted was deceptive then sue him. You have a lawyer Sean and he isn’t busy...

[@SetoSokotsu]

...hannity? more like, insannity, (dah dum tiss), XD!

[@GaryTheGmanToms]

After 20 years and numerous awards for journalism and community service, I stand with Ted Koppel, Amy Goodman and all those who opt to simply report the news/ facts FAIRLY and without expressing an opinion. During the inception of my career, I chose to report both sides of the issue and provide my viewers with pertinent information so THEY could research the subject(s) and draw THEIR OWN conclusions on any given issue. In other words, I opted to respect the intelligence of those who decided to view my reports. In closing, Mr. Uygur, I felt it was in very poor taste to mock Mr. Koppel and "others of his ilk" as out-of-touch aristocrats, or establishment journalists that didn't do their jobs, when you did your high-brow'/snob impersonation. While I do think your network is transforming the journalism landscape on a number of levels, I truly hope your astronomical numbers are not going to your head and forcing you to look down on or mock those of us who take a different approach to news reporting. At the end of the day, whether it's your show, mine or others that are single-handedly taking on the major news outlets of this country, we're all doing our best to engage.... and enlighten. Continued success to you and your talented staff. "G-Man"

[@j4adtb]

You were actually making sense for a minute. Well more like a few seconds.

[@DivineMizE]

What he was saying is that Hannity doesn't bill that show as purely opinion. It allows people to "assume" its pure unadulterated fact, which it is not.

[@tjbattle7920]

While I agree with you on some stuff.. I do think that many people are missing a point especially sean hannity. While he can claim that teds is being a hypocrite that isnt exactly true here. Sean said something and then notice that ted demeanor wasnt what he wanted and then proceeded to ask him his opinion. His opinion was prompted by the question not by the ratings. Sean didnt like his opinion and honestly thats fine but ted's opinion was only given cause sean wanted it. Opinion pieces are fine but I do think there is a vast difference in that what you do and what sean does. The foundation is the same but method is vastly different. Sean pushes a ideology while hiding under the armor of opinion. Having a opinion today is view so broadly that you could easy attach it to anything and given a pass. You push opinions after presenting the facts which in turn emphasizes definition behind what opinions truly mean. Its important for us to understand the difference here cause that difference will be vastly important in the future. The dissemination of information is where the issues lie. Depending on how that dissemination takes place and opinions can either be a lethal weapon or a mild suggestion.

[@hueyfreeman4366]

nice

[@ataylor3543]

Opinion News isn't news, its just someone's opinion...

[@gabep3586]

Can you not just be report what people said and also fact check both? Wouldn’t that be factual reporting?

[@tammypelletier3195]

And yet someone on the fox team had the audacity to fact-check. Which drove them crazy and caused Tucker Carlson to demand their head. We know that he was more worried about stock value then truth

[@willienixon6847]

I want to see the full interview

[@SLRams340246]

Ted didn't say what you claimed. What he said was that opinion shows shouldn't become the front news story on the newspaper and shouldn't be the front line news.

[@shanelyon15]

No the problem is…before the Fairness Doctrine ended the NEWS HAD TO PRESENT BOTH SIDES DURING THE SAME BROADCAST……and John chancellor did editorial and certainly Walter Cronkite did….

[@imurhuklberry99]

This take makes no sense. Koppel is saying that Fox is reporting ideology instead of fact. And has an audience that prefers that instead of fact.

[@HolyHotSauce]

Why not just keep factual (old school) reporting and commentary separate?

[@TheCommentSmerf]

This is golden a few years later.

[@anthos818]

Why would Ted Koppel want to play more than two minutes of Hannity and allow him to spew propaganda on his show?

[@CreoleLadyBug]

He was very disrespectful to Mr. Koppel as a predecessor.

[@Papillon_2010]

I dont think Ted is saying that you cant give your opinion. I believe he is saying you cannot pass your opinions off as facts because some people will not know the difference.

[@chilib6456]

Hey Turk instead of feeling or guessing or thinking Hannity is wrong about the whole interview, why don't you view it on the interweb?

[@NennieC123]

That wasn’t the point at all. Sean doesn’t present the facts and that is the issue

[@Shirley-lock]

News should find the true facts. It is called investigative reporting. Not a perspective. .

[@danepetersenvoice]

Here’s the thing: yes, the news never used to give opinions after presenting facts. Walter Cronkite’s “and that’s the way it is” wasn’t just a saying