Catholic Answers Focus | Has Modernism Infected the Church? | Fr. Sebastian Walshe

[@mcburns04]

“America The Jesuit Review” by Fr James Martin should not be allowed to be published. And if he can’t be stopped, then the Church needs to be vocal that his publications are not approved by the Church. This is a clear example of what Father was talking about in the video. But Martin’s bishop doesn’t say anything. It is sad.

[@valariousv7697]

Yea; they make Cristianity seem like a massive psy-op. The violations of Gods law by the leaders of the earthly Church just ring to familiar to tyranic movie characters making Pagans look saintly.

[@Peterwhitlock]

Science has proven CREATOR GODS ALL ARE LIES and the ATTRIBUTES do not work and the definitions do not work...God you worship is MYTH ONLY and if you think you can lie he is real we call YOU SATANIST and history IS recording YOU and you shall die one day like us all and be recorded for all times as satanist and not have nonour or truth on your side but words like VICTIM and INFECTED WITH LIES and VIRUS able to attack minds DO NOT READ this section of satanist! So even in the future you are rejected by all the worlds just because you chose a MYTH God to lie about and push lies about and be lies about then died lying about truth...see how you have no choice now...leave or stay we are JUDGING YOU and we know what them words are and how CREATORS can't use them....so time to admit your god is lies or that you been fooled or you continue to be satanist and care not about truth just like you been doing as victim used by lies set into you just like a virus to make YOU act like you are for them. SHAME will lead you o Atheism where truth and good are REAL and better than made up lies. I hope you find way out and save as many as you can or you be guilty of letting them be victims and then we call you satanic demon in the future..because you know now....knowing makes you 2 times as guilty if you refuse to use truth and knowing. Good luck fooled ones the best is not in the lies but with us in truth that we like or not but have no choice but to acept as truth//leave the lies and lose NOTHING but gain truth and place with all others in the future not fooled by the virus infected to lie.

[@danpan001]

Martin is like a Saint comparing to Bergoglio

[@isabelfelix1646]

Thanks Fr. Sebastian📓cant wait to get my hands on it "Once a Catholic always a Catholic"👌

[@ApostateBoohoo]

Really glad I watched this. I think I was in heresy because I thought "We can't know God exists with 100% certainty." I am still struggling with it but now I know. Thank you so much CA! God bless!

[@luisblanco4371]

I dont think he was saying with 100% certainty. I think what he means It is that you can have a lot of confidence in it. Its kinda like you dont have to doubt your sense until you see evidence of the contrary.

[@fireballgarcia1281]

I have met Father Walsh, he is a truly great man.

[@boogerandfriends]

I like how he to a T described Fr. James Martin without actually saying his name.

[@ATageH]

Thanks for this, very good guest.

[@isabelfelix1646]

God bless you🙏🙏🙏

[@ericleming1734]

God bless you Isabel Felix.

[@AnselmoFormolo]

Yerp, it's infected everything. But i have faith in Christ's promise.

[@Peterwhitlock]

Christ was proven lies same as definition of god and the attributes of god can't exist to be used....you are SATANIST now opposing truth with lies and myths and words from stories also proven myths...you must leave the religions that claim CREATOR for that is the ultimate satanic cult claim.

[@jspike96]

I just wanted to say regarding Fr. Sebastian's comment about many places bearing St. Thomas Aquina's name not teaching his works; my girlfriend went to the University of St. Thomas in Minnesota and she was required to read some of his works. I'm unsure as to the depth, of course, but it wasn't lacking from her education.

[@loganw1232]

We definitely have mentality towards seeing everything subjective, or we can always see only ourselves in knowledge. These processes of thought are in my history class in college and religion class.

[@ericleming1734]

I agree about once a Catholic always a Catholic.

[@Thomas-dw1nb]

This was a great and refreshing interview. See "Breaking in the Habit" for a KZbin channel that toys with modernism (in some cases openly espouses it) and James Martin for an outright modernist.

[@merrylittlelife7674]

I have watched "Breaking in the Habit". Can you give me an example of a video of a video that toys with modernism? and one that directly espouses it?

[@jacoba7275]

Fr. Sebastian is the antidote to the evil in the Church. Change my mind. He needs to be more regular on catholic radio, along with his confrère Fr. Hugh

[@jimmydavid1993]

i see this guy becoming a pope

[@rondouglas4296]

Great interview on a critically important topic.

[@pf4005]

Short answer: yes, the church is infected. For example, from Vatican II: It is through his conscience that man sees and recognizes the demands of the Divine Law. He is bound to follow this conscience faithfully in all his activity so that he may come to God. Therefore, he must not be forced to act contrary to his conscience, nor must he be prevented from acting according to his conscience. Declaration on Religious Freedom, "Dignitatis Humanae," December 12, 1965

[@salez9830]

The same Vatican II clearly teaches that conscience is rational and must be formed in accordance with Magisterium, so stop manipulating the Church teaching in order to excuse your rebellion against the Church. In fact it's those who dissent against living Magisterium of the Church, that embraced liberalism with it's idea of putting their subjective interpretation as the only true Magisterium. Lefebvre's vision of the Church was more protestant, that a Catholic.

[@luisblanco4371]

This video should go viral. I think this is one of the best way I could see the Rad Trads agreeing with the Conservative Catholics.

[@Christopher-ew7jw]

I’m somewhere in the middle I guess.

[@daricehenriques1200]

It's unlikely that Conservative Catholics will agree with Trads simply by watching this video. Most of them think that the TLM is simply the Novus Ordo said in Latin. Many are in the Charismatic Renewal, which has Protestant Pentecostal roots and is based on feelings/consolations and has some of the Scriptural heresies Fr mentioned. Or they are Catholic by convention (born and brought up Catholic, so follow what they are taught without questioning).

[@luisblanco4371]

@@daricehenriques1200 Would you consider Fr Sebastian a Conservative Catholic or a Rad Trad? I think what you described, I would consider a modern Catholic or maybe if it gets worse a progressive Catholic(postmodern). Only when the Rad Trads and the Conservative Catholics become one in a new culture, (neo renaissance) the Church will be very effective again.

[@daricehenriques1200]

@@luisblanco4371 the term Rad Trad is a bit of a misnomer. One is Trad or not. Fr said the blessing in Latin and wears a cassock. So Trad.

[@luisblanco4371]

@@daricehenriques1200 Okay. I would consider him conservative. My experience with Trads is that some may or may not say that Vatican II is not a legitimate council and they want to live in a pre 1960 culture.

[@Trwanddon]

Excellent interview. Great guest. ❤️

[@paynedv]

Pope Pius X - 1910 THE OATH AGAINST MODERNISM To be sworn to by all clergy, pastors, confessors, preachers, religious superiors, and professors in philosophical-theological seminaries. I . . . . firmly embrace and accept each and every definition that has been set forth and declared by the unerring teaching authority of the Church, especially those principal truths which are directly opposed to the errors of this day. And first of all, I profess that God, the origin and end of all things, can be known with certainty by the natural light of reason from the created world (see Rom. 1:19), that is, from the visible works of creation, as a cause from its effects, and that, therefore, his existence can also be demonstrated: Secondly, I accept and acknowledge the external proofs of revelation, that is, divine acts and especially miracles and prophecies as the surest signs of the divine origin of the Christian religion and I hold that these same proofs are well adapted to the understanding of all eras and all men, even of this time. Thirdly, I believe with equally firm faith that the Church, the guardian and teacher of the revealed word, was personally instituted by the real and historical Christ when he lived among us, and that the Church was built upon Peter, the prince of the apostolic hierarchy, and his successors for the duration of time. Fourthly, I sincerely hold that the doctrine of faith was handed down to us from the apostles through the orthodox Fathers in exactly the same meaning and always in the same purport. Therefore, I entirely reject the heretical’ misrepresentation that dogmas evolve and change from one meaning to another different from the one which the Church held previously. I also condemn every error according to which, in place of the divine deposit which has been given to the spouse of Christ to be carefully guarded by her, there is put a philosophical figment or product of a human conscience that has gradually been developed by human effort and will continue to develop indefinitely. Fifthly, I hold with certainty and sincerely confess that faith is not a blind sentiment of religion welling up from the depths of the subconscious under the impulse of the heart and the motion of a will trained to morality; but faith is a genuine assent of the intellect to truth received by hearing from an external source. By this assent, because of the authority of the supremely truthful God, we believe to be true that which has been revealed and attested to by a personal God, our Creator and Lord. Furthermore, with due reverence, I submit and adhere with my whole heart to the condemnations, declarations, and all the prescripts contained in the encyclical Pascendi and in the decree Lamentabili, especially those concerning what is known as the history of dogmas. I also reject the error of those who say that the faith held by the Church can contradict history, and that Catholic dogmas, in the sense in which they are now understood, are irreconcilable with a more realistic view of the origins of the Christian religion. I also condemn and reject the opinion of those who say that a well-educated Christian assumes a dual personality-that of a believer and at the same time of a historian, as if it were permissible for a historian to hold things that contradict the faith of the believer, or to establish premises which, provided there be no direct denial of dogmas, would lead to the conclusion that dogmas are either false or doubtful. Likewise, I reject that method of judging and interpreting Sacred Scripture which, departing from the tradition of the Church, the analogy of faith, and the norms of the Apostolic See, embraces the misrepresentations of the rationalists and with no prudence or restraint adopts textual criticism as the one and supreme norm. Furthermore, I reject the opinion of those who hold that a professor lecturing or writing on a historico-theological subject should first put aside any preconceived opinion about the supernatural origin of Catholic tradition or about the divine promise of help to preserve all revealed truth forever; and that they should then interpret the writings of each of the Fathers solely by scientific principles, excluding all sacred authority, and with the same liberty of judgment that is common in the investigation of all ordinary historical documents. Finally, I declare that I am completely opposed to the error of the modernists who hold that there is nothing divine in sacred tradition; or what is far worse, say that there is, but in a pantheistic sense, with the result that there would remain nothing but this plain simple fact-one to be put on a par with the ordinary facts of history-the fact, namely, that a group of men by their own labor, skill, and talent have continued through subsequent ages a school begun by Christ and his apostles. I firmly hold, then, and shall hold to my dying breath the belief of the Fathers in the charism of truth, which certainly is, was, and always will be in the succession of the episcopacy from the apostles. The purpose of this is, then, not that dogma may be tailored according to what seems better and more suited to the culture of each age; rather, that the absolute and immutable truth preached by the apostles from the beginning may never be believed to be different, may never be understood in any other way. I promise that I shall keep all these articles faithfully, entirely, and sincerely, and guard them inviolate, in no way deviating from them in teaching or in any way in word or in writing. Thus I promise, this I swear, so help me God. . .

[@justinward3218]

Curtis Mitch’s introductions in the Ignatius Bible do a good job at addressing modernist Scriptural “scholarship” (although not labeling them as such) and presenting the evidence against them.

[@antaine1916]

The modernist heresy is related to the Modernist movements in art, architecture, and literature. Modernism was a disillusionment with and attempt to de-traditionalize Western Civilization (including the Church). After two world wars, Modernism gave way to post-modernism (because modernism by then was triumphant), which seeks not to reform but to destroy Western Civilization and holds forth the promise that reality can be unmade and remade according to our own wills. Like Modernism, it is nothing new. Pilate was the first Post-Modernist when he uttered his famous "quid est veritas"?

[@bengoolie5197]

For over a century, now, there has been a sign placed near the resting place of Pope St. Pius X which reads: "Modernists and dogs keep off the grass."

[@justinward3218]

What a priest! So few people talk about Pascendi, more should read it. I’ve read it, don’t understand it completely, but enough to know that the word “modernism” is often both over applied, and not applied when it should be. As for Vatican II, I go with the hermeneutic of continuity as explained by Tim Gordon, I hope he is in accord with Pope Benedict, but Tim explains it in a way that is clear to me. Whatever seems ambiguous or strange by the initial reading, interpret it in light of previous documents that were more clear on the subjects. Why does Fr. Walshe wear a white cassock?

[@mkr3128]

Short answer yes

[@Steelers86860]

It absolutely has.

[@garthhunt7238]

Catholic Answers is not the place for Catholics who are seeking the truth, to find it!

[@jtrlatinist2227]

I appreciate Catholic answers going out on a limb and throwing a couple bones to the way of the traditionalist. We need more of this. But we also need honesty in covering where we have failed. Pagan idols brought into the Vatican, Constant confusion in this papel era, The fracturing and further dividing of catholics from within, And last but not least It seems the messages and evangelization is to let people do with thy Wilt.

[@Mike-qc8xd]

Good show thanks guys

[@michaelmasztal7871]

St. Thomas Aquinas did well explaining potential to actual, essence, etc.

[@davegugg7177]

Why did the V2 council make statements that were deliberately ambiguous versions of earlier recognized teachings? These ambiguities have been used to justify all sorts Modernist interpretations. I would have liked Fr Walshe to provide more specific examples of how Modernism is currently present in our Church because he really seems to know what he's talking about.

[@r.c4914]

You cant fight modernism by embracing the Cross for starters and humility. The Cross No pain... , no gain , no humility , no holliness , no hollines no Heaven .

[@patrickvernon2749]

Yes is the answer the question is what are they doing about it? Is there a tradition faction in the church who is traditional on jews, usury, and church and state relations?

[@rosiegirl2485]

I trust that Jesus is in charge of His church! Even if Pope Francis turns out to be a bad Pope,(wouldn't be the first) and allowing modernism into the church, I trust the Holy Spirit has His reasons, and can guide us out of it when He chooses!

[@Johannes-bu6np]

Just to be clear - Modernism is an actual Church condemned heresy (see Pope St. Pius X encyclical - Pascendi circa 1907). So if the Church has allowed modernism into it (as you say) and you go along with it - that makes you a full-blown heretic - which is a damnable sin (all heresy willingly embraced is a mortal sin). I am not saying that is your position - only pointing out some obvious teachings. Last point, the Holy Spirit could never, never ever will/want/lead someone to be in a state of heresy/mortal sin - so if the heresy of Modernism has infested the Church it is our duty and obligation by God to resist and denounce said heresy and be not partakers of it in any way!

[@patm4116]

Our ancestors haven't prayed for holiness in the Church and Its clergy. So when we don't ask we don't receive. Yes, Pope Francis is our current Pope. But since our previous generations have not prayed and asked for holy prelates God in His infinite wisdom sends us. And I'm not blaming God here. Far from it. It's us that are to blame. Non other. Peace out 👍

[@rosiegirl2485]

@@Johannes-bu6np I don't necessarily believe modernism has taken over our church. Nor do I partake in modernism! I do not believe Pope Francis has entered into heracy at this point..though I do believe he enjoys the uproar he brings to himself, when he brings things to a close shadowy line! Do I think he should do this..No..but he does! I do know he won't be Pope forever. I think we have been blessed with some really Holy Pope's since Pope Leo Xlll..and now we have a bad Pope..and he really is standing out! I don't even think he cares that he will go down in history, as a bad Pope! As a lay person in the church, I can only do so much..and that's where trust comes in. I have to trust that Jesus is in total control! That's not saying that I don't think our Bishop's should be doing their job's..and I am well aware of the fact, that most are cowards! No matter what is going on with the "politics" of the church...I will standby her! After all..where should we go?

[@jorgemortiz1543]

subtitles available pleas

[@loganw1232]

We can know God in certitude with reason. Modernism denies reason.

[@moisesvasquez9262]

Amen 🙏

[@luissalinas7762]

yikes

[@justinreany1514]

Honest question: If a well-educated faithful practicing Catholic were to ignore Vatican II and any of its teachings/documents - would he or she be deprived anything necessary or essential for their salvation or practice of the perennial Catholic Faith? A friend asked me this question and told me to ponder it for a week before I answered. Floored me! The answer is a resounding NO! There is nothing taught in V2 that I would not be able to practice the Catholic faith fully. I dont "reject Vatican II" but I pay little head to it. It has played an inordinate place in the life of the Church with a net negative yield by way of faith and Church life.

[@nicolandon5262]

He's LITERALLY describing the PAPACY OF FRANCIS...

[@r.c4914]

The difference between Modernism and Relevitism ?

[@oimss2021]

Ask James Martin.

[@loveandmercy9664]

Guilty of all seven of those.

[@tomgervasi4653]

Yes kings

[@amandathibodeaux4864]

Wow

[@pf4005]

My question...were they both steered by the Holy Spirit?

[@Mike-qc8xd]

But they don't do that anymore In fact they are promoted Mercer Comes to mind Many priests and Bishops quote him

[@pf4005]

Now compare that to Pius IX: "That it is right for each individual to follow with tranquil soul what is acceptable to his own religious creed makes the divine establishment of the Church of no consequence. The true Church of Jesus Christ was established by divine authority and is known by a four-fold Mark which must be believed. No other Church is Catholic except the one founded on Peter and on his successors in the Chair of Rome. Especially fatal to the salvation of souls is that erroneous opinion that Liberty of Conscience and Liberty of Worship is the proper right of every man. By Our Apostolic authority, we reject, proscribe, and condemn this evil opinion. Ven. Pope Pius IX

[@toddtaylor6192]

Why it took until 257th Pope to come around point out Modernism seems specious? The Industrial Age 1865 To 1917 in the US. I don't see any difference in greatest or change if a person would the compare the Great Roman Empire to rest of the world for it's time, same speed.

[@bsoroud]

Actually we don’t like the modern world

[@Joe-bw2ew]

I doubt Jesus was a Modernist

[@CatholicBossHogg]

Is modernism a problem? Well a Catholoc host on the largest apologetic channel didn't even know it was a heresy and barely even knows who Saint Pope Pius X is.

[@ApostateBoohoo]

What makes you think that??

[@CatholicBossHogg]

@@ApostateBoohoo his words

[@TheCASSMAN777]

there's no evidence that the host didn't know what modernism is lol.

[@beewizerm8]

Exactly!!!

[@RestingJudge]

You've clearly never conducted an interview lol, the interviewer takes the role of the audience asking any possible questions & follow up questions.

[@donjon2023]

The 2020 nativity that the Vatican put out was Postmodernism

[@jodygoodson8442]

Yes!!!!

[@anthonylozano8035]

when you say Modernism do you mean Marxism?

[@Miatpi]

I doubt that, but they sure are correlated. Marxism is modernistic while all modernism isn't marxistic.

[@donjon2023]

I think they are talking about Postmodernism

[@CM-Benedictus]

There is no "Marxism" left. The philosophy you are seeing is today in the world is that of Michel Foucault. Who grant it uses some Marx in his ideas but ultimately changes many things into a really scary philosophy much worse than Marxs ideas.

[@gracianomendoza8671]

Marxism can never exist. Much that equality can never be acheived. There will always be someone higher in stature than another. It is common and normal to have a leadership. Surely a leader would be treated differently from its constituents. For example: just because ALL Russians eat bread and drink milk does it follow Stalin, being the czar, should eat only bread and milk too. I doubt it. So ultimate or total equality cannot really exist. IT IS EASIER SAID THAN DONE.

[@anthonylozano8035]

@@CM-Benedictus id disagree. The CCP is backed backed by Marxist philosophy. I’ll have to look into Michel focault

[@raymack8767]

Bergoglio sold out to the demonic Pachamama when he invited Pachamama devotees onto solid ground and blessed the idol - and thus cannot be the Vicar.

[@Miatpi]

A pope can be a heretic but still vicar

[@raymack8767]

@@Miatpi But how many heretics, bad as they were like the monothelites, ever stooped so low as to bless pagan, demonic idols or invite their devotees onto sacred ground?

[@versatilelord8893]

@Delawanna I read about that. I’d like to assume he did out of simple humility