Catholicism Exposed (REBUTTAL to Calvinist John MacArthur)

[@MichaelWilson-ky3pp]

Its very simple: I have never heard of a single Catholic that has become a Protestant by reading the Church Fathers; but I have read of many Protestants that have become Catholic because they have read the Church Fathers.

[@hunter1029016]

I'm one of them!

[@davido3026]

@Eucharist Angel one becomes Christian by being BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT!!! AS JESUS COMMANDED HIS CHURCH

[@MichaelWilson-ky3pp]

@Eucharist Angel There could be no "sola scriptura" before there was a "scriptura" i.e. A bible; and there was no uniform agreement on which books compose the canon of the Bible. To this day there is not agreement as to which books belong or don't belong. Protestants have no way of determining which books compose their canon; or even why they hold the books to be inspired. They also have no authority superior to their own private opinion as to what is the correct interpretation of the scriptures; or how to settle disputes as to the interpretation among themselves. Sola Scriptura was also impractical until the invention of the printing press in the 15th C. Which made possible the widespread availability of books at an affordable cost.

[@anthonycalipjo8669]

@Eucharist Angel you keep on contradicting everyone here my friend.... you better come home 🏠 brother we have enough rooms...🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠...,❤️🤣😆

[@juanisaac5172]

@@MichaelWilson-ky3pp Eucharist angel went to the Martin Luther school of theology. When Martin Luther was before the Holy Roman emperor and he asked him under what authority he added the word "alone" to Romans 3:28 Luther said "I Martin Luther did it." So in other words he just gave to himself.

[@ElenaRoche]

I have to thank John MacArthur. He is one of the reasons I am converting to Catholicism. He played a big role. Thank you Mr. MacArthur!

[@davido3026]

Matthew 16:18-20 Mathew 28:20 1Timothy 3:15 Acts 5:38-39 that was 2000 years ago!!!

[@HenryBonesJr]

Welcome home, Elena.

[@anthonycalipjo8669]

Welcome home Elena, only the hypocrite cannot see the flawed argument of John Mackey...❤️❤️🤟

[@antsmarching1234]

Huh? I know you. You were Catholic from birth.

[@ElenaRoche]

@@antsmarching1234Nice try. If you knew me, you'd know I was born in the USSR where religion was not allowed.

[@Robert-ie8eb]

Even as a Protestant I never understood the idolization of MacArthur.

[@m4641]

He speaks well. He gets some things right. And, he is vehemently anti-Catholic staying true his Bob Jones University roots.

[@jeremydavie4484]

@@m4641 He went to Bob Jones U? Cringe. One of the last universities to end segregation

[@CountryAfficianado]

Because he's a fighter. And he fights often for right.

[@billprorok8115]

I agree. McArthur is accepted like he is infallible.

[@davido3026]

THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND WITH SUGAR CANDY WORDS

[@rosarymanpio]

I love how Mr. MacArthur makes it sound like Baptists are unified but there are 15 or 20 different Baptist denominational in America alone. 241 baptist denominations around world.

[@angelbrother1238]

@Empyreal empyreal it seems to me that MacArthur ignores all of the apostolic fathers and early church fathers when he speaks of the Catholic Church as if their writings are to be ignored or carry no weight at all . But it was the early fathers that helped to fully define many of the dogmas that MacArthur himself just assumes are true.

[@bettye444]

And those baptists disagree among themselves vehemently on some issues.

[@Arcticroberto9376]

You want medium dark wood pews? Well I want light dark wood pews! Schism declared!

[@rosarymanpio]

@@Arcticroberto9376 😂😂 so true

[@christenh359]

@Empyreal what are those fundamental tenants that all Baptists hold to? How do you know that those are the fundamental tenants? Does scripture give you a hermeneutical method to tell what parts of scripture are giving opinions and what parts are fundamental and cannot be denied?

[@erronymousbosh5649]

I am not a Catholic yet. John MacArthur lights a fire to get me to hurry up. How smug he is with self-appointed authority.

[@TruthHasSpoken]

The Church of John admittedly disagrees with 24,000+ protestant denominations (or at least never agreeing with them fully on faith). He has problems, serious ones, long before he ever meets a Catholic.

[@johnyang1420]

Try RCIA

[@kaysandee]

Why wait? The quicker you skidattle to thyou will see

[@JonineBlackshear]

Fantastic rebuttal Trent! Former Calvinist MacArthur junky- now in full communion with the Church. No regrets.

[@davido3026]

@Eucharist Angel the bible you read was made by the Catholic Church you hate, silly. year 382 by Pope Damasus I in the Council of Rome!!!!

[@davido3026]

@Eucharist Angel 1Timothy 3:15

[@davido3026]

@Youdowonk 1Timothy 3:15 the Catholic Church, The foundation and pillar of Truth

[@davido3026]

@Eucharist Angel the Catholic Church made the Bible in 382 AD!!!!she is the mother of the Bible!!!! the bible declares that the Church is the foundation and Pillar of truth TIMOTHY 3:15!!!

[@jesusfaith2232]

@@davido3026 yet to be read and obeyed!

[@Mattfraddsecretpodcast]

So good, Trent!

[@charlotteanneaton1143]

Hey! Great new Channel, Mr Fradd!

[@nathanoppy]

I seriously can’t believe I used to be a Calvinist. Utter insanity

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

Some people say that about formerly being Catholics. I'm not looking to defend Calvinism, because I'm strongly opposed to their stance on predestination. I've come to the point as a Christian though, we need to have grace for each other, and just accept that some Christians have some different theologies. Our core as Christians is that Christ is our redeemer though, and if it weren't for his atonement, none of us could be fully reconciled to God.

[@bridgetgress]

​@@saintejeannedarc9460Strongly disagree. You need to watch more Counsel of Trent lol

[@saintejeannedarc9460]

@@bridgetgress You disagree that Christ is our redeemer and is the atonement for our sins? If you disagree w/ that, you're in trouble sis.

[@bridgetgress]

@@saintejeannedarc9460 No, disagree that we just need “to come to terms with the fact that some Christians have different theologies.” In John 6, Jesus says “You must eat my flesh and drink my blood in order to have life within you.” Seems like an important difference between Catholics and most Protestants. “Life” here would most certainly mean “eternal life.” We should evangelize everyone because the Truth carries eternal significance.

[@PETERJOHN101]

I find it hard to understand how those who have been in fellowship with Christ apart from Calvinist doctrine can become entangled by it later on. I do understand how an agnostic might come into Calvinist belief.

[@anneoutarsingh3966]

What’s so sad about this is that some Catholics do not know the richness of their Faith so ithey become fertile ground for these heretics who give them an easy way out.

[@polybix7517]

That is very true my friend. A lot of catholics out there deny the presence of christ in the eucharist.

[@topherrey8665]

Agree 100%

[@polybix7517]

@Eucharist Angel im good thanks

[@3leon306]

@Eucharist Angel you keep trying but no one is paying attention to you

[@tkj2192]

@Eucharist Angel why to waste your time here. No catholic is going to pay heed to claims from a evil inspired sect called Protestantism.

[@josephalbek62]

I remember in my Protestant days the only information I got about the Catholic Church was by anti-Catholics. Once I actually looked into Catholicism and ALOT of it was by the help of the Catholic Answers podcast and articles you really see the beauty of THE Church

[@bryanwirthlin4444]

Same. I was raised Protestant so it's no wonder I became an Atheist in high school. I spent 15 years wandering in that desert before I investigated the Catholic Church on a fluke (or maybe not a fluke.) I'm actually really mad that Catholicism was kept from me. I heard so much anti Catholic garbage growing up, from Pentacostals no less. Now, this last Easter Vigil, I and my wife, along with our son came into the Church. And we're blessed to have a Traditional, 1962 Father Lasance Missal, FSSP, Latin Mass.

[@josephalbek62]

@@bryanwirthlin4444 wow God bless you and your family, I am currently 18 and in the RCIA hopefully in the proper time I can also become officially Catholic. And yes it’s unfortunate that most Protestants only learn about Catholicism by other Protestants.

[@bryanwirthlin4444]

@@josephalbek62 Do it. Even if the RCIA is a Novus Ordo (mine was.) Although, that being said, if you have a choice, you're more likely to be better Catechized at a Traditional Church that uses the Old Rite. At the Novus Ordo that I went through, the most effort they made was to have a few conversations and run a series of Bishop Barron videos. At this point, I was already well aware of Bishop Barron's... reputation... for waffling on important theological questions. "Dare we hope" and "Christ is the Privileged Way," etc. So, I wasn't thrilled to being taught the Faith in this manner. It went fine though. We were brought in, Baptized, Confirmed and First Communion. Although, I'll tell you this. For our First Communion, my wife and I wanted to receive on the tongue, the way it's traditionally been done. The Deacon and the Pastor nearly had an aneurysm about it because "muh Covid." We pressed the issue though. We wanted to receive our Lord for the first time with due reverence. They agreed, against their rather forceful "counsel," but we had to wait until literally everyone else left because and I quote the Pastor, "If others saw you receiving on the tongue, they'd want that too." So, the clergy specifically acknowledged that they knew what their sheep wanted and were intent to deny them and to go so far as to even prevent them from seeing someone else getting what they yearn for. Incredible. Needless to say, the very next Sunday after our Confirmation we attended the Latin Mass that we still go to and haven't been back to that Novus Ordo. I feel kind of guilty about using them for Confirmation, but not really. They lost us with the way they conducted themselves. The Novus Ordo sacraments are valid, I just cannot bring myself to attend Mass in that way. It's fine if you have nothing else, but seriously, the Traditional Catholics are right. 10/10 would recommend. I realize that there's many people that are upset by that claim, but there's a reason why the tiny parish I attend is packed to the rafters with people parking in the lots of surrounding businesses and walking to Church. Our "cry room" is standing room only during the 1030 AM high Mass. Meanwhile, the parish that I went through Confirmation with, was this massive, palacial Church and was nearly empty. Huge parking lot and finding parking was never an issue. At my Latin Mass Church, you better be at mass 30 minutes early minimum or you will be walking from a nearby parking lot.

[@josephalbek62]

@@bryanwirthlin4444 yeh brother I understand, fortunately the Church I attend and have my classes at is amazing and the community is beautiful and the priest is traditional and people receive the Eucharist on the tongue. With my RCIA classes we are going through the 2 seasoned Symbolon series where me and my the other bloke becoming Catholic watch the episode take notes answer the questions then after Monday night Mass we go into the room where there’s 3 people plus us 2 who go through the questions and have these 2-3 hour discussion and about every second Monday we have guests come and teach and attend our discussion. It’s very comfortable way for me and my mate to be learning about true Catholicism without all the politics of you know what I mean.

[@bryanwirthlin4444]

@@josephalbek62 That sounds pretty awesome. Much better than what my RCIA was like. I would kill for a 3 hour theological conversation after Mass.

[@stevekay4220]

As a protestant and graduate of Fuller Theological Seminary with an MA in Biblical studies I was so persuaded by John MacArthur. I thought he came across as a Godly person. But I saw him in an interview one time where someone asked him when the Catholic Church went wrong and he said he didn't know exactly "maybe in the 3rd Century" he said. But that is when the Church was developing doctrines like the hypostatic union, the Trinity, the incarnation. They were also starting to discuss a possible canon of scripture. If they did something we cannot trust in the 3rd Century then how could we ever know what is true? Jesus set up a Church, the New Testament makes that clear but according to MacArthur it started to fail within 250 years or so? Thank you so much Trent for debunking MacArthur's gross misrepresentations. You were a large part in my coming to see the gross errors in Protestantism and coming home to the Catholic Church. I support your channels and encourage other Catholics to do the same. We need logical defenders of the Catholic faith like you (and David Anders, Matt Fradd, Jimmy Akin, and the great channel "How to be Christian." I think Trent and "How to be Christian" are the best channels to debunk Martin Luther and Protestant's claims. How to be Christian can be found here kzbin.info/www/bejne/fX-oipxjhciCocU&ab_channel=HowToBeChristian

[@johnyang1420]

Welcome home! Right choice!’n

[@wendymitchell8245]

Jesus set up a church which was made up of all the true believers all over the Empire ,Not just one in Rome. What were the churches at the beginning of Rev . warned for ?.They were already falling from the truth The Roman church did start to fall into error in the end of the 3rd cent. as J.M. said, the first to suggest that he had some of the attributes of Peter was Stephanus, and then Pope Leo took this a stage farther. The first councils of Rome were attended by plural bishops ,no Pope ,it was written into history later.

[@ungas024]

​@@wendymitchell8245 There's no such thing as a "Roman Church" but there's only One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church those who say otherwise are lying to you.

[@wendymitchell8245]

@@ungas024 Who told you that. The Roman church was the one based in Rome who the Apostle Paul wrote to .In the N.T. Constantine built the first St. Peter's church there . Later it was corrupted by Theodosius who made it the only legal religion of the Empire, and called any who would not join it heretics. This introduced a false gospel and a politically run false church, claiming ,everyone must join the ONLY TRUE RELIGION THE ROMAN CHURCH. They later adopted the title as they did not recognise any church outside of it .Then they persecuted all others, killing thousand of Waldensians ,Ana-Baptists etc .In the 6th cent Pope Gregory sent Augustine of Canterbury to G.B. to try to get the British church to recognise him as head over all the churches .The representative of the British church Dionoth ,said they had their own bishops and did not recognise the Pope. Augustine threatened war, but died soon after. This was how you ended up calling the Roman church the one 'HOLY' Catholic church. It is still run by THE VATICAN IN ROME .It is still just as corrupt with ongoing scandals ,of money laundering and child abuse.

[@ungas024]

​@@wendymitchell8245 Name me one famous Historian that believes in what you have just wrote. I will wait.

[@mayorofbasedville7680]

Sometimes I wonder how Christendom was able to survive for 2000 years before men like MacArthur and Mike Winger came along to set us straight on the finer points of doctrine and dogma.

[@johnyang1420]

I know….right? They know better 1800 years after the Catholic church stsrted.

[@topherrey8665]

Yep it's pathetic to think that these guys got everything right after 1800 yrs or so. They misrepresent what the early church fathers believed that was passed on by the apostles.

[@johnyang1420]

@@topherrey8665 Where was their church from 33ad to 1986? Mike Winger church was started in 1986. What do they teach about this in Protestant seninary?

[@topherrey8665]

@@johnyang1420 not sure what your point exactly but I'm pretty sure his church doesn't go back 2000 yrs ago. They hold dearly on their 5 solas.

[@johnyang1420]

@@topherrey8665 The point is that John MacArthur/Mike Wingers church did not go all the way back to Jesus in 33ad. Their churches are manmade. Jesus started Catholic church.

[@matthaeusprime6343]

Ah, John MacArthur, I've never heard someone sound so sure of himself without giving one shred of evidence for their claims. Especially when all he makes appeals to sources that if actually observed would decimate his claims in under a minute. This is a great video.

[@celtoroma4013]

Mac Arthur's grand grand grand grand grand grand grand grqnd parents were Catholics.

[@tellernickolas]

@Eucharist Angel please check out Alister McGrath's 'Historical Theology: An Introduction to the Development of Christian Thought' which addresses the classical Protestant view of justification.

[@jessicamellizagonzaga4937]

@Eucharist Angel if you're faith is all dependent in Sola scriptura. An inspired book "Bible" collected by the Catholics then you are following a book made by a counterfeit religion as you claim yourself. So your religion is also counterfeit right?

[@tellernickolas]

@Eucharist Angel I have never met William Webster, I do know however that Alister McGrath is Anglican and that his reputation as an academic researcher is impeccable. What harm is it in reading his book as opposed to going exclusively by an online article?

[@marlam8625]

@Eucharist Angel interesting name you’ve chosen considering your position on Catholicism…. So you’re saying there’s a chance there is something to the Eucharist?

[@judysantmire968]

Calvinism never made sense, even before I became Catholic.

[@davido3026]

it would be interesting tio know where calvin is today? what was he predestined to ?

[@romasliv]

most protestant reject calvinism

[@borderlands6606]

Calvinism is proto-materialism. A deterministic philosophy of the elect without personal agency. Materialism simply removed the God part and left the rest of the furniture intact.

[@ripvanwinkle1819]

@@borderlands6606 exactly. It is a plantation state of mind with the whip master only going to heaven. There is next to nothing theological about it besides the pseudo slaps at actual theology.

[@teth-adam]

I honestly don't know how Calvinism has lasted as long as it has.

[@GratiaPrima_]

What’s sad, soooo many people listen to him and people like him about what Catholicism even is. I wish everyone would stop listening to non Catholics about what we believe... they ALWAYS get it wrong.

[@GratiaPrima_]

@Philip Bolin who says we don’t pray directly to Jesus? And also God the Father? Through the Holy Spirit, we absolutely do. We also believe what the Bible says and that we’re in the communion with the saints of Christ’s Body the Church. So we can pray together for each other. Cool, huh?

[@salanzaldi4551]

MacArthur is a bit off when he says there are 28,000 Protestent denominations. According to Google, there are 45,0000!!!!!!!!! No wonder Protestents don't agree with Catholics, they don't agree with each other either!

[@kingoppsanti5830]

What’s sad is Roman Catholicism

[@kingoppsanti5830]

“Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus” 🤯

[@kingoppsanti5830]

@Luke you a joke. I teach the Bible. Christ is the way truth and life. You a hater of truth.

[@nathanalex6880]

Double predestination and PST were always stumbling blocks for me as an evangelical. Grateful God drawing me home this year and for the glorious truth of the Catholic Church!

[@jonathanw5518]

Thanks be to God! I'm also a convert from Protestantism. Welcome home brother!

[@jeremydavie4484]

No way! I just came home too!

[@tabandken8562]

@Eucharist Angel Shocker, a Christian saying the same thing as all the previous Christians before him.

[@6williamson]

More prayers for our dear brother Eucharistic angel.

[@davido3026]

1 Timothy 3:15 Acts 5:38-39 Matthew 28:20

[@davido3026]

Very good Trent, finally you made it, this was so overdue!!!! by years...

[@ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν]

MacArthur also claims that the Bible gives no support for Peter having been in Rome. Yet First Peter says he writes through Sylvanus from Babylon. Now MacArthur says Rome is Babylon, at least he does when he’s interpreting Revelations. Yet mysteriously and quite conveniently Babylon isn’t Rome in 1 Peter, that is, it isn’t for MacArthur. God bless. P.S that’s from a comment from ARE CATHOLICS SAVED by MacArthur. Edit: Macarthur claims there is no indication that Peter had anything to do with Rome (paraphrase) at the 1 hour mark of “Are Catholics Saved”

[@josephzammit8483]

You're right. Arguments help to strengthen our Catholic Faith. But we need to pray as well because no one is going to convert just by arguments. Only God's grace can convert people, and more often than not, grace alone can convert even without arguments. Then, of course, after conversion, one can resort to arguments to strengthen his conversion. I don't know if you like my videos, intended to convert and/strengthen the Catholic Faith one has or desires to have. I’m publishing a weekly KZbin video on episodes from the life of Don Bosco, entitled ST JOHN BOSCO by JOE ZAMMIT. In this series I’m narrating events and miracles from the splendid life of Don Bosco. St John Bosco used to perform a miracle almost every day, through the intercession of Mary Help of Christians. From the lives of saints we can learn how to love God more and draw closer to him. Thank you.

[@ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν]

@@josephzammit8483 thank you.

[@Phill0old]

So Revelation is the same kind of writing as First Peter? So when Revelation says Jesus has a sword coming out of his mouth he literally does because swords are literally swords elsewhere?

[@ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν]

@@Phill0old No. One is obviously apocalyptic and the other is an epistle. So good distinction to bring up. do you feel that it was the literal babylon? I believe neither Mark or Sylvanus were ever in the literal Babylon. I could be wrong.

[@3leon306]

@@Phill0old dumb comment

[@Christian_Maoist.]

So glad you decided to talk about MacArthur. As bad as Mike Winger is, at least he hasn't implied that Catholics are unsaved unlike MacArthur

[@bettye444]

MacArthur I know from way back. I use to listen to him in the 79’s-80’s while traveling. Winger I do not know. I am a confirmed Catholic since 2015. Love the faith.

[@Christian_Maoist.]

@Philip Bolin ????????????????????????????????????

[@jebbush2527]

I don’t get offended if a prot says that tbh. I’m honest with them and say while we don’t know and I hope that they’re saved, that they may be unsaved due to their heresy & inability to receive the sacraments as well.

[@jamesm5462]

@Philip Bolin First, do you believe in Eucharist? No, you dont. If you do, how do you celebrate the Eucharist which has been done since the Apostles' days? Read John 6:51-57. Apparently, many of you just believe in Jesus by the lips. Second, you seem to forget Jesus' OWN WORDS in Mat 28:18-20. Clearly Jesus instructs the APOSTLES to 1. Make all nations His disciples 2. BAPTIZE them in the name of the FATHER, and of the SON and of the HOLY SPIRIT. 3. TEACH THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU 4. I AM ALWAYS WITH YOU TO THE CLOSE OF THE AGE. You see how BAPTISM is a must. After that FOLLOW WHAT JESUS COMMANDED TO THE APOSTLES. I DONT SEE JESUS SAYING AFTER BAPTISM, DO AS YOU (THOSE ALREADY BAPTIZED) LIKE. NO, WE NEED TO FOLLOW WHAT JESUS HAD COMMANDED THE APOSTLES AND THUS THEIR SUCCESSORS.

[@tabandken8562]

@Philip Bolin I'll respond to all that later. If you respond to this, I'll be notified and be reminded. I doubt you'll actually listen, but I'll at least try.

[@sporttestimony]

Thanks for this video. I used to always listen to MacArthur and even had his study Bible. But now after learning the history of the Church and reading the fathers I realize how wrong his anti-catholic rhetoric is. I'm soon converting to the Catholic Church.

[@heidiaraneta5211]

Praying for you

[@jessebryant9233]

Could you provide an example or two and explain? What of Church history and the Church Fathers? What of the Word of God? ...

[@wendymitchell8245]

if you knew the real history of the church you would never think of joining. Augustine supported torture. I taught R.E. with a R.C. who said read the history of the Popes ,murderers ,fornicators ,nothing Christian about them .She asked priests and monks, how could apostolic succession pass through unbelievers . No answer. Even the Mafia were once the Popes guards who lost their jobs .Where in the Bible, N.T. do you find the church offices of Pope ,priest ,AND AN ALTAR . Nowhere, it is all false .,mainly from the O.T.

[@Reformingstill]

Here is some more Catholic history for you watch this one then continue scrolling down there is a myriad of them kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ7Ef5x3lpKln9k

[@KristiLEvans1]

You are learning church history through what sources?

[@bethmedina9200]

I’m so grateful that you did this rebuttal!!

[@colepriceguitar1153]

He didn’t prove Catholicism at all.

[@apologiaromana4123]

@@colepriceguitar1153 He wasn’t trying to

[@5kydragon347]

I love the rebuttal videos so much!

[@denakelley4363]

One of the most offensive things Macarthur says is that being a Catholic is a "damnable" belief- meaning he believes that all the Christians before the reformation are in hell.

[@HosannaInExcelsis]

including his beloved Agustine for example.

[@matthewbennett3729]

Not only that but hes also shoving God off the throne of judgement imo and replacing Him with himself when he does that imo.

[@ripvanwinkle1819]

@@matthewbennett3729 calvinism is antimonian, a heresy. There is a million things wrong with this guy, but ultimately they are justifying amorality. Forget the commandments, forget love, forget natural law, forget animals, trees, it is all to be raped and pillaged....you cannot argue or make an argument from a negative.

[@wendymitchell8245]

@@ripvanwinkle1819 None of that is true .Study the real history of the Popes .There were more than one claiming to be Pope at one time .Two even fought each other in ships .SOME WERE TORTURERS AND MURDERERS See the video of the Pope at a new Waldensian church about 4or5 years ago , asking forgiveness for almost wiping them out .. Their statement of beliefs can be found on line. They were similar to the BAPTISTS , had their own translation of the Bible and preached the same as Peter .Believe and repent for the forgiveness of sins ,as Jesus died for your sins. Then they were baptised as believers. Read Acts 2. Because they were not members of the Roman church ,they called them heretics . Rome tried, and became a state religion and fell from the truth., the new Roman Empire.

[@wendymitchell8245]

The council of Trent made any teaching apart from the R.C. Illegal. They were called heretics and could be killed . In my town the last woman burnt at the stake was killed for saying she thought the bread did not change into the body of Christ . Many Catholics today do not believe it either. That is what happened to real Christians before the reformation. Thousands of Waldensians and Anabaptists were put to death .

[@Aryanne_v2]

As a former Calvinist, I always felt what Trent was saying about how a Calvinist could never be certain if he was ever really saved.

[@robertwilliams1167]

I think the moment you’re certain, is the moment you’re not.

[@N1IA-4]

Calvinism, if taken to its logical end, creates atheists. I used to be one also.

[@Jack_LaRussa]

Explain

[@BethHutch-pg5yi]

nonsense! Born-again and sealed by the holy spirit means we know we are saved -- I love the roman catholics

[@wendymitchell8245]

@@robertwilliams1167 Nonsense .If you think you are not, it it most likely you never were. Unless you have been misinformed as to what a believer is, by a group like the Holiness movement telling you you should now be perfect in mind and body.

[@roisinpatriciagaffney4087]

John MacArthur is a good hater. Pray for him. Excellent rebuttal, Trent, using bedrock Catholic faith and teaching. Thank you. Pax Christi.

[@roisinpatriciagaffney4087]

@Eucharist AngelYour ad hominem attack on my view has little effect on my Catholic faith. I'll say a pray that you may be enlightened by God's grace. Roisin is female!

[@fluffymoonhair]

@Eucharist Angel innocent martyrs what? No one will take you seriously while you are calling other people “raisin head.” Grow up.

[@fluffymoonhair]

@Eucharist Angel a) Jesus and the council Trent are actual authorities, you’re just a guy with an opinion. b) Raisin-head is a mean insult based on someone’s name and sounds silly as well. (Maybe apologize to Roisin?) c) Innocent martyrs?

[@fluffymoonhair]

@Eucharist Angel Fortunately, I can refute that very easily because my eternal life does depends on it. John 6:47-59 (ESV) Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. I am the bread of life. Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die. I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. ****And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.****"The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, "How can this man give us his flesh to eat?" So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, ****unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.**** Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so whoever feeds on me, he also will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven, not like the bread the fathers ate, and died. Whoever feeds on this bread will live forever." Jesus said these things in the synagogue, as he taught at Capernaum. - He also says the same, but shorter, at the last supper. Luke 22:19 And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” This is a pointless conversation. You aren’t interested in hearing the plain truth of the Bible. You’re too arrogant to consider that there might be an authority higher than yourself and your own interpretation of the Bible.

[@jesusfaith2232]

@Eucharist Angel amen

[@Simba00798]

Mr. MacArthur.... Those that engage in obsessing about the sins of others are usually those most in need of repentance.

[@marteld2108]

Mac Arthur and every other Calvinist cannot prove they were “predestined” to Heaven.

[@christophlindinger2267]

@Philip Bolin what you describe is Molinism, not Calvinism.

[@Crusader33ad]

Philip Bolin -. God does NOT create people for hell PERIOD. Calvin was nuts.

[@Crusader33ad]

Christos Kyrios - that’s NOT what Calvin taught. He taught DOUBLE PREDESTINATION. No one should believe that heretic who as I stated was nuts.

[@Crusader33ad]

Christos Kyrios - Calvin is a 16th century heretic. 1 Tim 2:4- God WILLS that all men be saved. Case closed. Calvin is still nuts. Why follow a dim witted heretic who started his own silly beliefs and has suckered you in??

[@Crusader33ad]

Christos Kyrios -- whoa whoa whoa. The Bible says in 1 Tim 2:4-- God will have all men to be saved. - kinda sinks calvins shaky boat. Calvin can’t understand Free will. He demures and bumbles no raa was yiinak man can follow him. I

[@buckwomack997]

Thank you Trent! This is a testament as to why we need to continue to pray especially for those who condemn The Church.

[@heidiaraneta5211]

Yes, as a Catholic I do pray for all even if we are being bashed by Protestants I still pray for them during my rosary

[@wendymitchell8245]

@@heidiaraneta5211 God does not hear you as you are not converted and follow the false teaching of an heretical church that murdered true believers for centuries.

[@markmeyer4532]

I would rather be an atheist than part of a church riddle with hidden and concealed pedophiles. And I say that as a Father. The Catholic church is the throne of satan.

[@halleylujah247]

This was an awesome rebuttal you covered so much ground in this rebuttal. I am going to have to watch again and take notes. Thank you!

[@catholiccrusaderdeusvult6205]

Hello Hailey God bless you

[@halleylujah247]

@@catholiccrusaderdeusvult6205 hello Kind person. May Christ face shine upon you.

[@andrejgrebenc3235]

Excellent, l rejected McArthur directly. He thinks he is even more than a Protestant Pope.

[@computationaltheist7267]

@Eucharist Angel There's no evidence of sola scriptura in the NT. A doctrine that gave birth to 30000 denominations.

[@patrickhows1482]

He is even willing to use anti-Catholic arguments normally used by atheists, he said that the so-called dark ages in Medieval Europe were due to the obscurantism of the Catholic Church. This is very ironical as the poorest states with the lowest educational attainment in the USA are those with the highest concentration of fundamentalist Christians.

[@ezassegai4793]

the pope supports lgbt, why?

[@gblizzard7518]

We left a Protestant church bc it was under the power of a consultant, named Paul, and he soon got the nickname Pope Paul VII and we soon had to move churches and I eventually discovered I am a Catholic! Peace be with you all.

[@marteld2108]

MacArthur also doesnt allow “comments” on his KZbin channel. He doesn’t welcome responses to his false claims. Trent, you should offer a public debate to MacArthur.

[@ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν]

Yes. A public debate or discussion would be quite a ...revelation.

[@davido3026]

Because the children of darkness ar more clever than the children of the light

[@marteld2108]

@Lemuel G Abarte...Trent Horn already "owned" James White in the debate on Salvation. Trent is too sharp for MacArthur.

[@mjramirez6008]

he preaches but doesn't do debates

[@ripvanwinkle1819]

MacArthur doesnt argue from a position of debate, he argues from a position of authority. MacArthur is so out of his league it would be sad if he didnt want and probably advocate the death of all catholics.

[@nathanoppy]

Former Calvinist here. Getting baptized this and confirmed this weekend. Ready to have the Eucharist in my life

[@Sniper_Cat_71]

Welcome home my friend! 🙏

[@jacksoncastagno9782]

Welcome home brother! May God bless you and Mary keep you!!! I'm happy we are in communion with one another.

[@makeupandtheology1821]

I adore the idea of the Eucarist, I truly do, but I don't see it in scripture. If it's in there, I will indeed cherish it.

[@JJDSports2012]

This is a thorough and devastating counterattack on a man whose hatred of Catholicism has become a horrible spiritual blindness that has misled many others.

[@kickflipinyaface]

I’ve been waiting for something like this for a long time now. Thanks Trent!

[@chaunceyhart1346]

Blue Collar Catholic just did a video on him a couple day ago too! Glad to see people are confronting his errors

[@HosannaInExcelsis]

I also did a couple in my channel in spanish and we have 1k views. So glad we are starting to expose him.

[@ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν]

Justin Martyr...has MacArthur not read Justin Martyr explaining the Mass? Anyways, thanks Trent. We know some folks that we love dearly that have been led astray by MacArthur.

[@catholiccrusaderdeusvult6205]

Lol apparently not, jono macArthur believes the church and the early church fathers began in the 16th century with his daddy jono calvin

[@ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν]

@Curtis MH praying for your sister in law.

[@catholiccrusaderdeusvult6205]

@Curtis MH amen welcome home brother

[@ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν]

@Christos Kyrios Yes I have. And I do see many affinities between the current mass and his description. (First Apology chapter 66 and 67). God bless

[@ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν]

@Christos Kyrios it’s a mass. hence the eucharist. are you unaware of masses being held outdoors to this very day. masses being celebrated underground in places of persecution. these inevitably have a different ascetic than if your in a cathedral free to worship ,wouldn’t you agree? Also in my citation I should have included chapter 65. little more context for you. Again God bless.

[@stevemartin6267]

Thank you for this. As a Catholic I need God's grace to better understand all of this.

[@ArchDragon888]

When they line up before Saint Peter at the gates and call him not infact, The First Catholic Pope, but call him; "pedo", "satanic", "sinful", "evil", and "Pope" from the false judgemental words of their past and of their fathers and their fathers fathers before them, is the very reason to ask Mary to "pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen" Remember to pray the Rosary!

[@Murk_Matter]

Ameen

[@denakelley4363]

I used to follow John MacArthur because, despite being a protestant, he has some great insight on scripture. But his social media page posts are full of vitriol and untruths about Catholicism. And I'm talking about HIS posts, not his followers. I stopped following him after a while because it was so upsetting. It's one thing to disagree on Catholicism based on facts, another to spread lies.

[@ElenaRoche]

I am grateful to MacArthur, he played a role in my return to Christ. He doesn't know what he did, but his lies about Catholicism told me exactly where to go.

[@davido3026]

stay away from satan, the subtle lie to eve still works today

[@sproutfire8878]

Yeah, JM is an anti-Catholic cheerleader. I pray more and more people dig deeper into the facts of the Catholic church and learn how deceiving JM's messages are.

[@wendymitchell8245]

@@sproutfire8878 It was an R.C. . teacher with degrees in theology and Roman history who told me to read the real history of the Popes ,as they were more like the Mafia and only interested in power and position and material things and sexually immoral .Read real history not the R.C. propaganda. It is they who deceive the uneducated.

[@wendymitchell8245]

@@davido3026 Do you mean the R.C. church. .It fell into heresy when Theodosius made it the only legal religion to try to unite the Empire. He then threatened to take the property of anyone who would not join. This of course was not the gospel and filled the church with hypocrites . The laws of Theodosius can be found on line.

[@davidaimer314]

Wonderful job as always

[@iqgustavo]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:03 📺 Introduction to the response video and its purpose. 01:23 📜 Church history support: Church history doesn't universally back the Roman Catholic Church; diversity exists among church fathers' views. 03:37 🕊️ Calvinism vs. Catholicism: Catholicism aligns more closely with early church fathers than Calvinism on doctrines like eternal salvation and justification. 04:56 🔗 Baptist Successionism debunked: The theory that modern Baptists trace back to ancient heretical groups lacks historical credibility. 06:08 📚 Early church fathers' agreement: Church fathers' unanimous agreement on Catholic doctrine is not accurate; diversity in their views exists. 07:47 ⛪ Apostolic succession: The concept of apostolic succession isn't biblical; apostles had unique authority due to personal encounters with Jesus. 09:52 📖 Scripture's role: The Bible is seen as the ultimate authority in Protestantism, but its interpretation varies among denominations. 12:39 🧐 Circular reasoning: Both Catholics and Protestants have elements of circular reasoning in their arguments about authority and infallibility. 14:45 🏛️ Church authority: The Protestant emphasis on individual interpretation lacks unity, whereas the Catholic Church claims continuity and authority. 18:02 🌐 Church unity: Protestant denominational diversity raises questions about the lack of a unified structure and authority. 20:50 📜 Solo Scriptura: The doctrine of "sola scriptura" (Scripture alone) as the sole divine authority is challenged by historical context and interpretation. 23:51 🕊️ End of public revelation: The argument from Jude 3 doesn't definitively support the belief that public revelation ceased with the apostles. 24:04 📖 God's revelation didn't cease after apostles; no evidence for living apostles giving revelation. 25:02 🎁 Cessationism: Holy Spirit doesn't give miraculous gifts like in apostolic times. 26:13 🧩 Calvin questioned by Catholics about miracles supporting Reformation. 27:23 🔮 Continuationists: Spiritual gifts continue; potential risk of accepting continuing authority. 28:21 📜 Authority dispute: Scripture vs. Tradition; Protestants emphasize Sola Scriptura. 30:00 🕊️ Tradition's role: Not extra-biblical, but pharisaical misinterpretation. 32:24 📚 Sola Scriptura: Divine revelation in Scripture, not in man-made traditions. 34:12 🙏 Catholic approach: Mary as mediator, contrasts Calvinist God's determinism. 36:03 ⛪ Catholicism: Plea to saints and intermediaries; Calvinism's predestination. 38:52 🕊️ God's nature: Reconciliation and salvation offered to all, not just elect. 43:29 🕊️ Imputed righteousness: God's treatment of Jesus, not actual sin transfer. 45:10 🔥 Atonement models: Penal substitution vs. Sacrifice of love. 46:05 🕊️ Atonement interpretation: Incarnation as 'being made sin' in 2 Corinthians 5:21. 47:27 🕊️ Alternative view: Imputed sin refers to humanity's fallen nature. 47:56 🤨 Catholic interpretation of "made him to be sin" refers to Christ as a sin offering, compatible with Catholic understanding of atoning death. 48:49 🐑 Second Corinthians 5:21 aligns with Catholic view of Christ as a passover sacrifice, offering himself for humanity's sins. 49:20 🕊️ Second Corinthians 5:21 does not refute Catholic concept of Christ's atoning death; individuals must choose to accept its effects. 50:01 😇 Catholics don't need to wait until after death to find out if Christ's sacrifice applied to them; it's a settled fact in life. 50:57 🌟 Catholics believe in justification by grace, apprehended by faith; human actions don't contribute to salvation. 51:26 😳 Calvinist view leads to double predestination, where God decides both salvation and damnation; contrary to Catholic belief. 52:07 🤔 MacArthur's view on imputation and righteousness is inconsistent with Paul's use of different Greek words. 52:21 🙏 Catholic view: Christ's righteousness applied to believers through sacrifice, transforming them and making them pleasing to God. 52:48 🚶 Catholics believe in transformation through Christ's righteousness, leading to obedience and a new heart. 53:45 🛐 Catholic view of transformation aligns with God's promise in Ezekiel for a new heart and spirit. 54:54 🕊️ Jesus' full life and obedience were necessary, fulfilling righteousness and inaugurating his mission, not just for a weekend crucifixion. 56:04 😇 MacArthur misunderstands Catholic view; infused grace is not about multiple infusions, but about transformation and cooperation with God. 57:16 🤝 Catholics believe in cooperation with God's grace, not diminishing God's sovereignty; faith and works intertwined. 58:41 🏰 Misinterpretation of Catholic teaching on purgatory and works by MacArthur; salvation comes from Christ's sacrifice, not personal efforts. 59:53 😇 Both Catholics and Protestants emphasize the role of faith, but differ in the role of works in demonstrating and increasing faith. 01:00:08 👀 MacArthur's interpretation of James 2 is flawed; James talks about genuine faith being evidenced by works, not about earning salvation. 01:08:10 🕊️ Catholics and Protestants have overlapping concepts of justification, sanctification, and glorification, with differing emphases on process and cooperation. 01:11:33 🤨 MacArthur claims that Roman Catholic theology prevents people from being saved, as it involves cooperation with God's grace for salvation. 01:12:15 🧐 MacArthur's strict view could limit true Christians to only five-point Calvinists, which is unlikely. 01:12:57 😇 Many new Christians in their church are ex-Roman Catholics, drawn by their existing belief in the Trinity, Jesus' deity, salvation, and desire for heaven. 01:13:39 🌱 Roman Catholics are fertile ground for effective evangelism, and it's tragic to misrepresent them as Christians already in the kingdom. 01:14:08 🌐 It's beneficial for Catholics to understand biblical foundations to share their faith with Protestants and vice versa. 01:14:48 🌊 Baptism is a response to salvation and an act of obedience; it follows conversion, not a human work that produces conversion. 01:15:29 🔗 Water baptism symbolizes joining Christ's body, while spiritual baptism unites believers into the spiritual entity of the Church. 01:16:25 🤔 MacArthur's view of spiritual regeneration before faith leading to later inclusion in the body of Christ is questioned. 01:17:05 🌊 Baptismal regeneration is not just a Catholic belief; many Protestants and even Eastern Orthodox accept its importance. 01:17:31 📖 Romans 6 suggests water baptism as uniting believers with Christ's death and resurrection, indicating its centrality. 01:18:26 🤷‍♂️ MacArthur's arguments are summarized, highlighting the importance of understanding diverse Protestant theologies for Catholics.

[@LauraBeeDannon]

John McArthur made me a better catholic. Being challenged by his teachings through Calvalry chapel I had to do my own research. I started going to bible study and grabbing any apologetics I could. He gets little credit in my book. 😊

[@Mkvine]

I think reformed Christians make the best Catholics, iron sharpens iron.

[@LauraBeeDannon]

@@Mkvine converts in general or converts who had something to lose becoming Catholic. Yes reformed turned Catholic are like a force on their own 😄

[@juanisaac5172]

Dave Hunt and all his lies did it for me.

[@LauraBeeDannon]

@@juanisaac5172 who is Dave Hunt?

[@juanisaac5172]

@@LauraBeeDannon An anti-Catholic writer who wrote several books attacking the Church. He had debates with Dr. Fastiggi y Karl Keating. You should listen to them on youtube. Fastiggi and Keating tear his books apart. Quite enlighting to see where the false attacks on the Church come from.

[@susanmann8643]

I couldn’t love this more Trent! Thank you for your work.

[@faithfulservant83]

You make a very good case Trent, I am struggling to remain a protestant after listening to your very well articulated arguments.

[@daninspiration4064]

You struggle because you want to do what's right but satan tries to stop you. Look into Scott Hahn and John Bergsma or Keith Nester if their conversion story doesn't convince you. Nothing will. God bless

[@faithfulservant83]

@@daninspiration4064 Thanks, I will be sure to check them out. God bless.

[@johnyang1420]

Try RCIA

[@TheCatholicChurchIsJesusChurch]

Pray that the Holy Spirit will guide you! Come on home to the Catholic Church! 😄

[@stephenjustice6097]

Maybe take a look at the ecclesiology and see if that nudges you back. Peter clearly saw himself as one of the elders not the head.

[@sretchko]

I was a nondom Christian, Calvary Chapel, for 30 years and found the Church that was started by our Lord Jesus Christ, The Catholic Church, 7 years ago by Studying the early Church Fathers after reading the book "Rome Sweet Home" by Scott Hahn and listening to Patrick Madrid on Relevant Radio. Thank you for making these videos and your kind and generous take on anti-Catholic arguments! "Millions say they hate the Catholic Church for what they think it is, but only a few hate it for what it truly is." -Bishop Fulton Sheen. Blessings & Prayers for you.

[@victordoofilipe9002]

It's their rhetoric that needs dismantling. White, MacArthur, Winger, Durbin etc. are effective not because they're right but because they deliver their content with an emotive frankness that exudes an assurance and intellectual arrogance that to the ignorant will easily become convincing.

[@michaelarchangel130]

You've hit the nail on the head about modern American protestantism; "emotive frankness". People want quick and easy answers that are spoon-fed and that make them feel good. They do not want to have to do deep thinking on their own or have to connect dots. It's why they are so good at pulling one verse of scripture as a proof-text, whereas Catholics rely upon the Catechism which draws upon all of Scripture for a complete view of a teaching.

[@michaelarchangel130]

@Eucharist Angel "WE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE PRODUCED MORE COMMENTARIES ON THE WORD OF GOD than anything the RCC has come up with, THAT'S FOR SURE. " Considering the Catholic Church has existed for nearly 1400 years longer than Protestantism, that's a highly dubious statement. Do you have any statistical data to back up such a claim? Or are you merely stating your opinion? Case and point about shallow thinking is to label the mystery of the Eucharist as a re-presentation as "science fiction", along with other terms such as "sham and a hoax". That's the language of a person who is not filled with truth and wisdom, but with bigotry and hatred.

[@mazikode]

Wow i am so glad you covered him!! I used to listen to him i cant believe you have done a show on him. Thank you!!!!

[@josephpack7315]

Converted from Baptist to The Holy Catholic Church five years ago. Now my mission is to convert my Protestant brothers. I start by telling them everything they were taught about the Church is wrong, and I show them the actual teachings, and they have nothing to say against it. Truth defends itself. After that, they basically have a choice to make: stay inside their false belief, or answer the call to come to Holy Mother Church and be cleansed and purified through the Sacraments, including my favorite, Confession. Virgo Potens, protect us, your children!

[@wendymitchell8245]

JOSEPH .P. If you were a baptist you must have heard the gospel that you now deny . You have turned your back on God for a false system and will have to answer to him one day, if you do not repent and believe the true gospel .Read your Bible and see what it teaches .Acts 2.onward.

[@josephpack7315]

@@wendymitchell8245 what an ignorant statement. You are obviously ignorant or anything other than your own little sect of Christianity, and I’m assuming you don’t know much about what you profess to be true either. Not much difference between Catholics and Baptists, but you’r know that if you actually tried to learn something instead of just convincing yourself you’re right and everyone else deserves to burn in hell.

[@wendymitchell8245]

@@josephpack7315 Try reading more carefully ,I DID NOT SAY there is not much difference between BAPTISTS AND R.C.'s. I SAID YOU SHOULD HAVE HEARD THE GOSPEL IN A BAPTIST CHURCH AND THAT IS NOT WHAT IS TAUGHT IN A R.C.church. See what Paul Washer preaches in a baptist church. about the gospel .Nor have I ever said everyone else will burn in hell ,but those who reject the gospel will ,God said so .

[@josephpack7315]

@@wendymitchell8245 so, you admit Catholics and Baptists aren’t much different, but I’m going to Hell if I choose the wrong one, UNLESS I haven’t listened to a guy on KZbin, in which case God will have no choice but to torture me for eternity? Is that really your best argument?

[@wendymitchell8245]

@@josephpack7315 You have not understood anything I said , I even said read more carefully .I will assume you are being serious ,but you are saying the opposite. If you went to a Baptist church they should have preached the way of Salvation. This is what Peter preached at first at Pentecost ,opening the door of the kingdom. He always preached the same.,all of you have sinned ,but because God loves you ,JESUS CAME TO TAKE YOUR PUNISHMENT. If you believe in Him and repent he will forgive you and give you everlasting life. This applies to all of us ,as we have all sinned .Acts 2.He did not preach what the Roman church now teaches ,that is bring up your babies and dip them in water, and then they become inheritors of the kingdom of heaven. This does nothing ,God does not judge those who are too young to even know what sin is. God is a just judge. Repent means to change your mind, about your relationship to God, that you are condemned because of your sin .Then realise who Jesus is and what he did for you. If you really mean it your life will be changed ,and you will inherit eternal life. Paul is preaching this to a liberal church that has many young people who think they can continue in sin.

[@takmaps]

Sadly this level of misinformation probably has basis in the spiritual realm. We must pray for them

[@catholiccrusaderdeusvult6205]

Spot on 🙏

[@j.navarro9976]

How does one access the spiritual realm?

[@takmaps]

@@j.navarro9976 I don't understand the question, friend. You can ask your guardian angel to pray for and protect you by praying the Angel of God prayer. You can also ask for the intercession of the Holy saints to ask the Lord our God for help.

[@theTavis01]

@@j.navarro9976 you do not want to access it uninvited. If God wants to grant you a revelation of it, He will, as is recorded numerous times in the Old and New Testaments.

[@CreativeMechanic]

Just came in to smash the like button: will watch the whole thing later

[@nicholaseleh9253]

Damn! Beat me to it... Lol.

[@stefanielozinski]

Thanks for this video! I’ve been waiting for someone to tackle McArthur. I am hopeful you’ll do more videos on Jeff Durban, as well. I actually really enjoy his show on other matters (his discussions with atheists, Mormons, abortion supporters etc are excellent) but his errors are frustrating to say the least. God bless!

[@TheIncredibleSulk86]

Remember that one time John MacArthur denied the blood of Christ and that other time he said you can take the mark of the beast and still be saved? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[@junacebedo888]

Is it on youtube?

[@estherl3902]

what?

[@PInk77W1]

Why u have to throw Pepperidge farms under the bus ?

[@juanisaac5172]

Yes I do. I even showed it to protestant who told me Macarthur was not wrong.

[@Ben-fm1tp]

It's just amazing how for so many objections to Catholicism there is Biblical backing for the Catholic stance. True presence - John Chapter 6 Faith and works - letter of James

[@myrddingwynedd2751]

This verse alone refutes John MacArthur`s notions of salvation. Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Philippians 2-12

[@myrddingwynedd2751]

@Brent Braxston The next verse only proves synergism, that it is both God`s grace and our response to it that is at work here. If it were not the case, Paul wouldn`t emphasize the need for "us" to work it out. This is congruent with the concept of love, that love is not possible unless it is reciprocal. How you cannot understand this is beyond me.

[@phoult37]

@@myrddingwynedd2751 "This is congruent with the concept of love, that love is not possible unless it is reciprocal." Good point and fits well with our understanding of free will

[@myrddingwynedd2751]

@Eucharist Angel For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done. Matthew 16:27 The bible says that God desires the salvation of all. If that is the case, which it is, and his grace is irresistible, there should be no one who is lost. Think about it. The Jesus you espouse is not the Jesus that the bible speaks of, or the Jesus I believe in, or the Jesus that the verse I just gave you speaks of. Please pray that your mind may be freed from the errors it is filled with. I eagerly await your mental gymnastics to get around this verse. God bless.

[@myrddingwynedd2751]

@Brent Braxston So, Paul here doesn't, as you suggest, "emphasize the need for 'us' to work it out," That simply isn`t true, and the text doesn`t suggest anything of what you`re saying. Perfect eisegesis. Furthermore, if one is elected, and no one can interfere with that election, it would make no difference if anyone were to interfere with the work of God, since they cannot lose their election anyway. Total nonsensical claims.

[@myrddingwynedd2751]

@Brent Braxston It still says that "when their free will is added". So it's clear that it is synergistic. Of course, no one us the initiator of the good, and that's what Augustine is warning against, to not claim the good work as belonging to you apart from God. So Augustine agrees that the free will of man is added, but to not boast that the good is solely your own. Its very simple when one realises that love requires the consent of two wills responding to each other, otherwise it cannot be love, and neither can God be loved by his creation if they are not free to respond or reject.

[@geoarchon7227]

He became his own pope in his own terms.

[@gblizzard7518]

Yes. And accountable to "elders" he likely hand selected / conform to his ideas.

[@hailholyqueen]

As Catholics, we always need to remember to ask Johnny Mack how that Thomas More Law Center worked out for him in his lawsuit against California.

[@MrViktorolon]

Calvinists are the chosen one, why bother with arguments? The case is closed...according to them, of course.

[@EJ-gx9hl]

But if there’s pre-destination and some have already been chosen to be saved and others to go to hell, then how do they know whether they’re the chosen ones? Did they receive a letter in the mail? What if MacArthur himself wasn’t chosen to be saved?

[@EJ-gx9hl]

@Eucharist Angel I’ll gladly take the dunce cap. I’m refuted. Or I’m not. Truth is I don’t know and I’m fine not knowing. But one day I will know. We will all know. I’m just here on this journey learning and loving God and doing the best that I can and when I can’t I know I have Him to help me.

[@EJ-gx9hl]

@Eucharist Angel I know nothing about Calvinism, as is evident, so please explain the 50 verses and how is it that one whom is a Calvinist knows for a fact they are saved?

[@davido3026]

@Eucharist Angel I work my salvation with fear and trembling!!! PAUL SAYS THAT, THE CHURCH TOO!!!

[@PedroAntonioLea-PlazaPuig]

Trent please! Where can i buy your books in spanish? The physical copies

[@davido3026]

catholic-link.com/25-libros-catolicos-que-no-pueden-faltar-en-tu-biblioteca/

[@diegofuentes6639]

Great Video, Trent. I had LONGED for Trent to respond this liar

[@diegofuentes6639]

@Eucharist Angel And why do have a Catholic name Eucharist

[@nickw9766]

Question: How can the Catholic Church possibly be the wrong history when the Protestantism didn’t appear till the Reformation?

[@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc]

Read some Non-Catholic History. It’s beneficial to get out of the Indoctrination zone. Can’t learn anything new in an echo chamber. RCC put The Bible on “Forbidden Books” List. That’s 1 snapshot of the Counter Reformation. Christ instructed His apostles & disciples to Spread The Gospel and Shepherd His sheep, so WHY was The Gospel Truth hidden and forbidden ?

[@coolcatbaron]

That's why they claim that the early church was somehow like Baptists, because for them it has to be the case to remain in their position. Only ignorance of history or refusal to accept it, justifies the Baptist position. Many are ignorant and some are in willing denial.

[@randysteinke9802]

This is great stuff! Thanks Trent!

[@sdboyd]

I'm so thankful that I left this group. I remember listening to my Sunday school teacher telling me that Baptists were the first Christians. He said that there was an unbroken line since 33 AD. He was either lying or ignorant.

[@davido3026]

he was making money!!! that's for sure!!! mandatory tithing!!! or you'd be robing God!!

[@wendymitchell8245]

Stevan that has to be America ,with so many variations ,because of it's size. I have never heard a baptist say that . They might mean there have a line of believers who taught' baptism of believers '.The Waldensians baptised believers.and were mentioned from the 12th to17 th. cent when they were almost wiped out by the R.C' .s Their statement of belief is on the internet and similar to the Baptist's . The Anabaptists were also persecuted for baptising adult converts . It was a Roman Catholic teacher with degrees in theology and Roman history ,who told me to read the real history of the Popes as they were so evil .It took her years to face the facts, and leave .

[@wendymitchell8245]

@@davido3026 Sunday school teachers do not make money .Most baptists do not tithe. The Roman church even had a questionable bank .now investigated . The problem is the Vatican is a state with it's own laws .Even if they killed a Pope . Italy could not investigate.

[@sdboyd]

@@wendymitchell8245 I think the internet helped squash this ridiculous idea. However, when I was a kid I heard it in several sects. Regardless, no Catholic assumes that a pope is especially holy. Some were and some were only nominal Catholics. We don't expect the human element of Holy Mother Church to be perfect. We expect ex Cathedra proclamations to be infallible, but they are few and far between. As far as holiness goes, I've seen the vilest people ascend to the highest levels of Protestant sects. No group is immune to it.

[@wendymitchell8245]

@@sdboyd There are many protestant sects that are not Christian therefore that would be normal ,but not if the church claims to be the true one . If they were just nominal how can succession pass through them or is there a' bypass.'

[@dominicluke7]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:03 🎙️ *Introduction to responding to John MacArthur* - Responding to John MacArthur's arguments against the Catholic faith. 01:10 📜 *Church history and Catholicism* - Evaluating the claim that church history universally supports Roman Catholicism. - Historical perspective on the development of Catholic doctrine. 03:02 🕊️ *Baptist Successionism and Church History* - Examining the theory of Baptist Successionism and its historical context. - Why Baptist scholars have abandoned this theory. 06:08 ✝️ *Early Church Fathers and Catholic Doctrine* - Discussing the diversity among the early Church Fathers regarding Catholic doctrines. - The development of certain Catholic teachings over time. 07:47 🧑‍👨‍👧 *Apostolic Succession and Its Significance* - Exploring the concept of apostolic succession and its role in the Catholic Church. - How apostolic succession relates to the legitimacy of the Roman Catholic Church. 11:16 🔄 *Circular Reasoning in Claims of Infallibility* - Examining the charge of circular reasoning in claiming infallibility for the Catholic Church. - Comparing presuppositions about infallibility with regards to the Bible and the Church. 14:17 🏛️ *Definition and Organization of the Church* - Defining the nature of the Church and its organizational aspects. - Discussing the role of ecclesial authority in early Christianity. 16:08 🧩 *Protestantism, Autonomy, and Unity* - Addressing the issue of autonomy and unity within Protestantism. - The challenge of unity without a central authority. 18:18 📖 *Scripture, Interpretation, and Tradition* - The Protestant perspective on Scripture as the ultimate authority. - Examining the role of tradition in interpreting Scripture according to historical sources. 19:54 ❓ *Debating the Authority of Scripture* - Discussing the argument from silence and the debate between Protestants and Catholics regarding authority. - Analyzing the claim that the Bible does not explicitly forbid an additional authority. 20:08 📜 *Misinterpretation of sola scriptura* - The argument against sola scriptura is based on the idea that the Bible doesn't explicitly teach it. - Evidence from the Bible and Christian history supports the existence of an infallible church with apostolic authority. - Statements like the warning in the book of Revelation about adding or taking away from the Bible don't apply to Catholic teachings. 22:26 💬 *Debate over cessationism* - Cessationism, the belief that miraculous spiritual gifts have ceased, is a point of contention among Protestants. - Some continuationist Protestants argue for the ongoing presence of miraculous gifts in the church. - The debate over spiritual gifts has implications for the concept of apostolic succession. 25:44 🔮 *Miracles and the Reformation* - During the Reformation, Catholic apologists argued that miracles performed by Catholic saints validated the Catholic Church. - John Calvin acknowledged the lack of miracles among Protestants but claimed that they were reaffirming apostolic teachings. - Calvin believed that miracles could only be found in apostolic churches, making Catholic miracles suspect. 27:38 📖 *Tradition and Scripture* - The dispute over tradition concerns the interpretation of Scripture, not the introduction of entirely foreign traditions. - Sacred tradition guides the Catholic Church's understanding of God's written word. - The Catholic Church sees tradition as a way to ensure the correct interpretation of Scripture. 32:52 📜 *Divine inspiration and traditions* - The Bible uses the word "theonus" (inspired) only once in 2 Timothy 3:16, referring to Scripture. - The early Church Fathers used "theonustos" to describe various writings, not limited to the Bible. - Divine revelation is not limited only to what the Bible explicitly calls "theanustas." 36:03 🙏 *Intercession and Mary* - Believers are encouraged to intercede for one another and trust in God's promises. - The concept of intercession extends even beyond death in the Body of Christ. - Mary's intercession is seen as an expression of God's grace and willingness to hear the prayers of His people. 39:47 📜 *Calvinism and God's Grace* - Calvinism asserts irresistible grace, but the Bible shows that people can resist the Holy Spirit's call. - God invites everyone to eternal life, and people can refuse His offer. - The tension of MacArthur criticizing Catholicism while holding unbiblical Calvinist beliefs. 40:28 🛐 *God's Nature as a Savior* - God's nature is that of a savior who pleads with sinners. - Roman Catholic theology misses the concept of God as a natural savior. - God's desire for reconciliation and the role of intermediaries in Catholic doctrine. 42:14 🕊️ *Imputed Righteousness in Protestantism* - Imputed righteousness in Protestantism involves swapping our sins for Christ's righteousness. - Our own righteousness remains unchanged; sins are covered with Christ's righteousness. - Martin Luther's analogy of covering dung heaps with pure white snow. 44:10 ⚖️ *God's Justice and Atonement* - The necessity of Christ's sacrifice as a means to obtain salvation and demonstrate God's love. - Addressing the idea that God could have forgiven sins without Christ's crucifixion. - The difference between Catholic models of atonement and the penal view of Protestantism. 46:11 🙏 *Interpretation of 2 Corinthians 5:21* - Examining alternative interpretations of 2 Corinthians 5:21. - The view that Christ becoming sin refers to His incarnation rather than imputed sin. - Understanding the significance of Christ's sacrifice as a love offering that pays for sins. 50:17 🔄 *Assurance of Salvation and Cooperation* - MacArthur's view of assurance of salvation and its reliance on God's predestination. - Comparing the Catholic view of infused grace and ongoing cooperation for salvation. - The idea that both Calvinism and Catholicism have uncertainty about one's salvation. 55:12 📖 *Living a Righteous Life and Justification Process* - The importance of Jesus living a perfectly righteous life for imputation. - The concept of fulfilling the law through love and living in conformity with God's law. - A brief overview of the Mass and its role in Catholic theology. 59:53 📜 *Catholicism's Impact on the Gospel* - Purgatory and good works being seen as detracting from the gospel. - The Catholic perspective on initial grace and baptism. - Justification as a divine act and the difference between Catholic and Protestant views. 01:00:08 🕊️ *MacArthur's Misinterpretation of Romans 11:6* - Examining the interpretation of Romans 11:6. - Clarification of the Catholic perspective on grace and works. - Dissecting the role of the Mass and purgatory in salvation. 01:03:16 ✝️ *James 2 and the Role of Works* - Analyzing James 2:14 and its relevance to faith and works. - Differentiating between saving faith and the evidence of salvation. - Addressing the misconception about "faith alone." 01:07:43 🛐 *Understanding Justification, Sanctification, and Glorification* - Distinguishing between justification, sanctification, and glorification. - Comparing Catholic and Protestant views on the process of salvation. - Highlighting the role of grace and cooperation in Catholic theology. 01:14:22 💧 *Baptismal Regeneration and Its Interpretations* - Exploring the concept of baptismal regeneration and its significance. - Discussing the timing of baptism in relation to faith and salvation. - Addressing the different perspectives on baptism within Christianity. 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[@jonathanw5518]

Thank you Trent! May God richly bless you and yours!

[@andrewscotteames4718]

When I was a baby believer and an RC Sproul fan, I stayed away from John MacArthur. He gave me bad vibes. A decade later and having thoroughly studied multiple groups’ systematic theology, historical theology, and exegetical theology I am grateful that I did. MacArthur is a con artist. He masterfully mixes lies with truth, and it is truly unnerving to listen to the man.

[@gblizzard7518]

Hey I too was a RC fan but never could claim predestination and then saw a red flag when I discovered how much they agreed on. And oddly it was the disagreements that gave me pause to consider Catholicism. So, I am one now.

[@Gericho49]

Debunking the evil doctrines of Calvinism, (Continued) To start, let’s turn to Paul’s first letter to Timothy where he urged that “supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men” (1 Tim. 2:1). Paul considered this good in his sight because God “desires ALL MEN TO BE SAVED and to come to the knowledge of the truth” (1 Tim. 2:4). If God wants all people to be saved, he must have provided some way for any person to be saved through the reception of the grace Christ merited for him on the cross. This saving grace is available to all people, but it won’t have the same effect in every person. Those who accept God’s offer of salvation and remain in his friendship make God’s grace efficacious. That is why Paul said that God “is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe” (1 Tim. 4:10). God makes salvation available to all, even if all do not choose to receive it. John 3 16 is perfectly clear when he says "God so loved the WHOLE world..." not just the few self-declared "elect" or a privileged social class! Calvinists dishonestly spin this argument by saying that in 1 Timothy 2:1-4 Paul is merely talking about how God desires the salvation of all “kinds” of men, even if he doesn’t desire that every one of them go to heaven. For example, in verses one and two Paul says, “I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life, godly and respectful in every way. Context? But desiring the salvation of all people and desiring the salvation of all kinds of people are not mutually exclusive. Even if Paul were emphasizing that we should pray for people in all social classes of his day rather than for all people in general, this doesn’t detract from Paul’s wish for all people to live in peace because this pleases a God who wants all people to be saved. The atheistic scholar Richard Carrier, who has no vested interest in either side of this theological debate, says that Paul “is telling people to pray for peace, on behalf of everyone alive, but in [verse 4 he is describing what God wants . . . There is simply no other way to interpret what Paul is saying except that what God actually wants is all people, not some of all kinds of people, to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.” And because God wants all people to be saved, he has made the salvation of anyone a real possibility. This means that Christ indeed offered his life as a sacrifice for every human being. St. John affirmed that Christ “is the expiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD” (1 John 2:2).

[@mayorofbasedville7680]

I'm sorry, I know it's not very Christian of me, but when I hear someone that preaches such a heretical doctrine like Calvinism criticize apostolic Christianity, it makes my blood boil. These guys seem to think that Christianity was founded in 1519 by some European men and that the Bible descended miraculously, in the handwriting of God Himself, from heaven at the behest of King James. I really think their worship of the Bible could be interpreted as idolatry.

[@davido3026]

bibliolatry!

[@willsavebygod7774]

Idolatry of the Bible? So where could we find the Word of God? Where did you get your Faith? Ahm from nowhere? Of course in the Bible. If the Bible readers are Idolatry in the Bible, the could we say You are Idolatry of Rosary? You are believing in Heresy. According to? Your faith is in accordance of Whom? Is He your god?

[@colvinator1611]

Your blood will boil in hell. The true Bible was together at the start of the second century in Antioch ( Syria ). The early Church in the Acts of the Apostles were not the 'protestants' you are obsessed with. They were followers of the living God meeting in houses with the doctrine of the Lord Jesus Christ. They were hunted down and slaughtered ( all to no avail ) because of their belief in Gods Truth. In due course, the pagan emperor Constantine came along ( 4th century ) and invented the roman catholic cult thus declaring himself 'bishop of bishops'. See what the Lord Jesus Christ says about the 'mother of harlots' catholic system in Revelation 17 and how He prophesies it's total destruction in Revelation chapter 18 along with all the catholic heretics. Read it SLOWLY in the King James Bible.

[@colvinator1611]

@Christos Kyrios Excellent comment Christos Kyrios. The catholics are lost and in bondage to the satanic cult of Rome. The unbiblical priests have led countless millions to hell and continue to do so.

[@colvinator1611]

Your knowledge of true Church history is woeful.

[@Ergorexestu]

They reject the infallibility of the Church yet preach in their own infallibility of their interpretation.

[@johnyang1420]

Lol!!!! Yeah!!!

[@carmenanico2786]

Wow, how rich is our Catholic faith. Thank you, Jesus, for your church ⛪️

[@ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν]

“Christianity is not a thing of mere silence, but also of manifest greatness”. Ignatius of Antioch 107 AD. I’m not sure Mr MacArthur understands ancient Christianity.

[@verum-in-omnibus1035]

He doesn’t understand ANY Christianity ✝️

[@kingoppsanti5830]

Roman Catholicism started after 300 ad 🤣😂🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν]

@@kingoppsanti5830 well that’s a tough sell due to the fact Catholic Christians were celebrating mass in Rome. John’s pupil Πολύκαρπος celebrated mass with Anicetus Bishop of Rome in about AD 157. So again 300 is not even ballpark. God bless.

[@kingoppsanti5830]

@@ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν did you the romans were killing Christians in the first, 2nd and 3rd century? Do you get your education from Wikipedia? Constantine started the peace.

[@kingoppsanti5830]

Do you forget*

[@georgegiannis4337]

I'm so glad to see people standing up to this guy, John MacArthur and others, who can be at times ferociously anti-catholic. Even as a former protestant I would get irked in my spirit listening to his sermons and talks and I know others who did too. He not only goes after catholics but other protestants as well (charismatics, Billy Graham, Rick Warren, etc...). He seems to think he is God's watchdog and goes on the hunt and attacks. The man is entitled to his opinion as we do have freedom of religion but he seems to state things as though they were facts instead of merely his opinion. People seem to hang on to his words like he is the pope of the evangelicals. In my opinion, I find his views to be very narrow minded and he seems to take some things very literally in the bible. Thanks Trent for doing these videos. We need more people like you.

[@wendymitchell8245]

He shows up the false teachers. I would make an exception of Billy G. as he was suffering from dementia ,and should not have been interviewed. I expect you are not from a gospel preaching church or you would know better. Preachers are told to correct false teachers .Titus 1;11 whose mouths must be stopped ,who subvert whole houses ,teaching things they ought not. Of course he does not take things literally unless they clearly are. .Trent does not know what he is talking about.

[@tralfazruk1]

I can see why you are an ex protestant. You are obviously either a fake convert pretending for Trent or someone who never was born again. Trent has fake conversions in the comments.

[@justthink8952]

MC Arthur ..... Pope of the evangelicals. Very good observation.

[@fantasia55]

He's just like John Calvin.

[@eetwins21]

Thank you, thank you, thank you for this!

[@cantrait7311]

Thank you for the video Trent. Great job as always

[@DrChaunceyBlevins]

I feel like MacArthur would be the first person you’d meet at a Toyotathon

[@rappmasterdugg6825]

I think that's really unfair to Pat and Jan.

[@shibaos]

hearing a calvinist quote from 2nd cornthians 5 so much is crazy knowing he has to carefully dance around 2Cor5:10,14-15

[@ruanfirefox]

Bro, it is already very crazyness for me to be protestant for so long of my life, but imagine being a calvinist protestant! That's nuts!

[@eusol2517]

Praying for John McArthur's conversion to Catholism🙏😇

[@Earthtime3978]

That’s a big one but the man upstairs can do anything

[@colvinator1611]

I wouldn't pray for anyone to go to hell.

[@johnyang1420]

Actually….there is no salvation outside the Catholic church….you got it backwards

[@stephanustlm3797]

Love it. Thanks, Trent!

[@FrJohnBrownSJ]

Boom.

[@lukebrasting5108]

Are you a Jesuit? You should check out a book called The Plot Against the Church by Maurice Pinay, written under a pseudonym by high ranking prelates just as the second Vatican council was getting under way. You can find free PDF copies online. Be careful who you share the information with because your order is crawling with them and you'll probably end up being snuffed out.

[@rossdsouza]

Calling John Macarthur a Theologian is like calling Weird Al-Yankovich a Philosopher

[@Emper0rH0rde]

Except Weird Al has some pretty compelling thoughts.

[@LagMasterSam]

@@Emper0rH0rde For real. Weird Al is much closer to being a philosopher than John Macarthur is to being a Theologian.

[@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc]

RCC Errors? Ancient & Current.

[@thegoatofyoutube1787]

@@ShirleyAnnPetrillo-oj7sc😂 ok Shirley. Time to educate yourself and read the early Christian writings .

[@wendymitchell8245]

@@thegoatofyoutube1787 You mean like the J.W.s follow the heretic Arius . The truth is found in the N.T. not the errors of men.

[@erikschultz7166]

Is there any of the 28,,000 Protestant denomination that don’t claim scriptural authority.

[@jonathangolding7361]

For such a sharp guy on some matters of Scripture, it's astounding how much ignorance, dishonesty, and poor reasoning MacArthur uses when discussing the largest branch of Christianity.

[@davido3026]

mac arthur leads blind to doom!!! just for his love of money!!!

[@joea8842]

When I listen to John MacArthur, I see visions of a Protestant kiddie pool next to a Catholic ocean. Someone should tell Trent it isn't nice to take candy from babies.

[@mi-ka-eltheguardian3837]

22:34 , 22:54 and also not stick his fingers inside his nose , while recording....Is just not nice 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jesusfaith2232]

All I see are “shuffle priests “ giving candy to kids 😉😂

[@row1landr]

Thank you Trent for all of your rebuttals!!!

[@myrddingwynedd2751]

1:11:34 How can Rome`s gospel prevent someone from being saved if God has predestined them to be saved? John, this is a huge non sequitur.

[@spyroninja]

Well said, my Welsh friend. Calvinism only makes sense if you think about it so hard that you confuse yourself into accepting obvious contradictions.

[@PInk77W1]

Good point

[@rc3088]

Wow. McArthurs belief/teaching is scary 😨 freaky

[@bradk7310]

So I wonder if John MacArthur would say that the Bible Answer Man, Hank Hannegraph is lost since he became an Orthodox Christian?

[@GratiaPrima_]

Oooh, good question.

[@maasneotek1977]

He did and Hank Hanegraaff addressed it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5SueIp9lqqfaqM

[@Crusader33ad]

I didn’t know that. Hannegraph always dissembled on John 6 and denied Christ in the Eucharist. He’s one step closer to the full truth. Orthodoxy is now fragmented into at least 3 denominations

[@GregorasProject]

Yes, he had a scathing "sermon" attacking Hank Hanegraaf's decision

[@ammonschumer8589]

John McArthur is insufferable. Interestingly enough reading and listening to him helped me convert to Catholicism.

[@johnyang1420]

Welcome home! God bless you!

[@KristiLEvans1]

Another person who picked an extra-biblical religion because they didn’t like a famous preacher. Do we not use our minds and Scripture, anymore? And people are congratulating this; presumably, other adults.

[@MeisterEck]

haha same with me

[@KristiLEvans1]

@@MeisterEck so, annoyance or hatred. Not Scripture and history?

[@MeisterEck]

@@KristiLEvans1 mcarthur encouraged me to dive deeper into scripture and church tradition. If you do this honestly, you will come to the catholic church. So I can only thank him

[@CraftyNessi]

I remember years ago watching some of MacArthur’s sermons when I was going through a young earth phase (I don’t really care for either, old and young earth still speak to the glory of God there’s better hills to die on) and I watched a few videos and his stuff didn’t really sit right with me. Watching this now explains why I didn’t like his stuff. I will say, something I’ve realized about the works thing between Catholics and Protestants… is that it’s literally something we should be doing anyway. Like technically MacArthur is right when he says that our works should be proving that we are Christian. Exactly! That’s what’s going on in Catholicism too. Yeah they connect it to our ongoing sanctification but they are literally things we should already be doing!! So praying, going to mass, taking the Eucharist, the Ten Commandments, the laws, confession, and everything, we should already be doing those things with a joyful heart! That obedience comes from a joyful heart. It only becomes legalistic when you make it legalistic in your heart. I hear Protestants complain about the venial and mortal sins and how it’s horrible how legalistic Catholicism is when they are literally already doing that in their own mindset of obedience and ongoing sanctification in Christ and trying to be like him! And then I’ve heard Catholics yell at Protestants for not fulfilling these things when in reality they are, just outside of communion with the Church! That’s something Catholics need to realize when talking to Protestants, when you’re talking about the different types of sins and indulgences, you have to tell them that it’s what they’re already doing but it’s to make us closer to Christ not to keep us out of purgatory. Because that’s what they hear most of the time, indulgences keep them out of purgatory when from my understanding purgatory is just cleansing you of the last pits of sin before you died because you don’t want to come before God in any state of sin. Otherwise they’ll think “well I already am trying to be more Christ like, I don’t need to go to mass and get *your* Eucharist.” Especially since many don’t believe in purgatory. Purgatory is the refining place that many Protestants sing about but only associate to the trials of life not the place they go before meeting the Father. It’s crazy, cuz as soon as I put two and two together as a Protestant going Catholic, everything literally made sense! Like it clicked for me!! So yeah. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk! God bless!

[@robertweidner2480]

It’s one thing to say that transubstantiation was made up in the Middle Ages. It’s another thing entirely to see the thing “transubstantiation” being described by St. Ignatius of Antioch who was a follower of St. John. There’s no “middle man” or many centuries to mess with that. Reading that saint made me convert.

[@davido3026]

Every sincere protestant looking for the truth, who reads the Church Fathers and the lives of the saints will become catholic automatically!!!! guaranteed

[@justfromcatholic]

Following Reformers, MacArthur says that justification is instantaneous and completed by faith alone. The Greek phrase "justified by faith" appears four times in NT (Rom. 3:28, 5:1; Gal. 2:16 and 3:24). The one in Rom. 3:28 is in Greek passive present tense while the rest are in Greek passive aorist tense. Both tenses do NOT imply (1) a completed justification by faith and (2) the person remains justified ever since. Inspired by the Holy Spirit, if Paul intended to teach justification by faith alone, then he would write those four phrases in Greek passive perfect tense. Unlike that of English Greek perfect tense indicates the action described by the verb (to be justified) was completed in the past with continuing results to the present. The concept of double imputation taught by the Reformers also contradicts Ezekiel 18:20 that says: "the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself". Ezekiel 33:12 says "the righteous shall NOT be able to live by his righteousness when he sins". This verse also contradicts Reformers' teaching that after justification (by faith lone) we are both justified and sinner at the same time.

[@justfromcatholic]

@Eucharist Angel You made a silly caricature in saying that Catholics believe salvation is in the hands of sinner and it'd depends on our good works. CCC 1821 does NOT support your false statement. Our ability to do good works comes from and is only possible by grace (stated in # 1821). Scripture says he who does what is right is righteous (1 John 3:7) and the righteous shall go to eternal life (Mat. 25:46) and through Christ we are MADE righteous (Rom. 5:19). God rewards us with eternal life for our good works, accomplished by grace (STATED in # 1821) as Scripture says in John 5:28-29 and Rom. 2:6-7. It is a reward or gift, not something we deserve. Scripture would not contradict itself. Your blunder is you follow unscriptural double imputation concept taught by the Reformers. In OT an animal must die for sins committed by Israelites. God does NOT impute sin to that poor animal and in return the righteousness of that animal (if there is any) is imputed on sinner.. Just like OT animal sacrificed for sin of Israelites, Christ died for our sins, which He did willingly. Scripture does not teach imputation of both righteousness and sin as it says in Ezekiel 18:20.

[@thomasjorge4734]

God does not Need us to co-operate. He Desires this.

[@jamespetyrycia4214]

Who found the Calvinist? who found the protestant? It started after Martin Luther which cause split after splits and splits.

[@ripvanwinkle1819]

Different people, different countries (or states) different theology. Luther doubled down on the law( due to the constant warfare in germanic region) and went hard on the peasants (endorsed the killing of 300,000 german peasants).... calvin was a ideologue, and old school corporate CEO, feeds on the weak and ignorant and wanted a plantation state vision with the whip master ( himself) going to heaven. An elect few. Which is why it expanded in places like the deep south of america. Luther started it, but totally different people, and wanted to contain his people, calvin wanted to expand in defenseless territories ( like australia, english protestant world)

[@matthewbroderick6287]

John MacArthur preaches Scripture alone! Jesus Christ in Holy Scripture, teaches the bread, WHEN BLESSED, is "My Body ". ( Matthew 26:26). John MacArthur says, "no, it is not Jesus's Body!" So much for Scripture alone! Why should anyone listen to the fallible John MacArthur, instead of going straight to the infallible Bible? Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink

[@AllanKoayTC]

exactly. protestants like MacArthur claim we should not follow what the Papacy says because the Pope isn't infallible. well, neither is MacArthur, so why should anyone listen to him, too?

[@matthewbroderick6287]

@@AllanKoayTC excellent, so true! "It is by WORKS and NOT BY FAITH ALONE that we are JUSTIFIED ".( James 2:24). Holy Scripture speaks for itself! Yet, the "Scripture alone," John MacArthur, says, "No, it is not by works, but only by faith alone that we are JUSTIFIED!"

[@xv1c10usx]

@@matthewbroderick6287 where do those works come from matthew?? from your faith. belief in the lord jesus christ. if there are no works than its a false faith. the whole faith alone argument is getting old lol

[@matthewbroderick6287]

@@xv1c10usxPaul, Even if one has ALL FAITH, but does not love, it is useless . ( 1 Corinthians 13:2), as Jesus Christ warns those who HAVE FAITH in HIM, that if they do NOT BEAR FRUIT, they shall be taken away, ( John 15:2), as we must cooperate with God's grace and love one another! Faith alone is a man made tradition not found in Holy Scripture! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink

[@matthewbroderick6287]

@Eucharist Angel Thankfully, God shall have the final say on who is actually ignorant and foolish! For, even if one has ALL FAITH, but does not love, it is useless. ( 1 Corinthians 13:2), for " To those who HAVE DONE GOOD, THESE SHALL ENTER INTO THE RESURRECTION OF LIFE ", ( John 5:29), for "God shall render to everyone according to one's works. To those with patience in WELL DOING, seek Glory and honor and immortality, He shall give ETERNAL LIFE ", ( Romans 2:6-8), as the Son of Man shall give to each according to one's works or lack of works, ( Matthew 25:35-42), for indeed, James is Speaking of salvation, for "it is by WORKS and NOT BY FAITH ALONE that we are JUSTIFIED ", ( James 2:24, Revelation 2:23, 1 Peter 1:17). You are in my prayers as you journey toward Truth! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink

[@iqgustavo]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:43 📚 The historical support for the Roman Catholic Church is not unanimous throughout church history, as there were always dissenting groups. 03:17 📖 The claim of Baptist successionism, where Baptists trace their lineage back to the apostles, lacks historical and scholarly support. 06:08 📜 Early church fathers did not unanimously support all the doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church, and diversity existed in their writings. 08:01 🕊️ The concept of apostolic succession is questioned, with some arguing that there is no biblical support for the continuation of the apostolate. 10:07 ✝️ The Catholic Church asserts its infallibility, but critics argue that its doctrinal errors and historical misconduct disprove its infallibility. 13:50 📜 Catholics do not make a circular argument for their infallibility; instead, they appeal to historical evidence for their authority and continuity. 15:55 ⛪️ The concept of the church in the New Testament implies an authoritative and organizational structure. 17:19 📚 Disagreements among the diverse Protestant denominations have led to debates about the need for a centralized church authority. 20:23 🔍 The debate centers around whether Scripture alone should be the sole source of divine authority, and whether the Catholic Church's authority is based on a presupposition. 23:22 📖 The end of public revelation is a theological debate, with differing interpretations of passages like Jude 3 in the Bible. 24:19 📜 Many Protestants, like John MacArthur, believe in cessationism, which means they think that miraculous spiritual gifts listed in the Bible have ceased as normative with the apostles. 25:29 🙏 Catholic miracles in the 16th century were used to validate the church's claims, but John Calvin believed that only apostolic churches could have genuine miracles. 27:09 🔄 Some Protestants, called continuationists, believe that spiritual gifts continue in the church, leaving room for the continuing authority of the apostles. 29:46 💬 There's a dispute over the role of tradition in Christianity, but tradition serves to guide the church's understanding of God's written word. 31:56📖 The Bible doesn't teach that traditions are inspired; instead, it emphasizes the inspiration of the Word of God. 33:04 🤔 John MacArthur's Calvinist views are in tension with the biblical idea of resisting the Holy Spirit's call, as seen in Stephen's statement and Jesus's lament over Jerusalem. 34:12 🤝 In contrast to MacArthur's view of irresistible grace, the Bible suggests that God invites human beings to eternal life, which they can choose to accept or reject. 41:23 📜 MacArthur outlines the concept of imputed righteousness, where Jesus is treated as if He committed all the sins of humanity, which is central to his view of atonement. 44:55 🤔 The doctrine of penal substitutionary atonement, as described by MacArthur, raises questions about the nature of punishment for sins and the traditional concept of hell. 46:27 💭 Some church fathers and theologians historically interpreted 2 Corinthians 5:21 not as imputation of sin but as a reference to Jesus becoming human, with humanity being associated with fallen nature. 48:23 📜 Second Corinthians 5:21 does not refute the Catholic understanding of Christ's atoning death, and it's compatible with the Catholic description of how Christ offered Himself as a sacrifice of love. 49:20 🛐 The Catholic view emphasizes that Christ pays the penalty for sins in full, and salvation is apprehended by faith without the need for additional actions or cooperation with God's grace. 51:26 😇 The Calvinist view leads to a belief in double predestination, where God sends people to hell, and it only becomes infallibly known after death whether someone is saved, while the Catholic view provides more psychological security about one's salvation. 52:07 🙏 Catholicism sees infused righteousness, where Christ's righteousness is applied to believers and transforms them, making them righteous by putting on Christ, as opposed to the Protestant concept of imputation. 56:18 🙌 Justification, sanctification, and glorification are distinct components of salvation in Christian theology, emphasizing salvation from the penalty, power, and presence of sin. 01:11:33 🤔 John MacArthur's argument against the Roman Catholic theology of salvation indicts not just Catholics but any Christian who believes in cooperating with God's grace for salvation or growth in holiness. 01:12:27 🙌 MacArthur believes that Roman Catholic theology does not align with the gospel, and that Catholics need evangelizing. 01:13:26 📖 MacArthur acknowledges that Catholics are often very open to discussions about faith, making them a fertile ground for evangelism. 01:13:54 🤝 Cooperation in salvation: MacArthur opposes the idea of baptismal regeneration, asserting that baptism follows conversion. 01:15:02 💧 Salvation and baptism: MacArthur believes that a person can be saved without water baptism, but that it is an act of obedience to the Lord. 01:16:25 🙏 Baptismal regeneration: MacArthur suggests that the Holy Spirit gives the gift of faith and the desire for baptism, but baptism itself is not what saves. 01:16:53 🛐 Baptismal regeneration is not exclusive to Catholicism and is also accepted by some Protestants, as well as the Eastern Orthodox and Mormons. 01:17:45 💧 Romans 6 and baptism: MacArthur interprets Romans 6 as symbolizing baptism as uniting believers to Christ through water baptism. 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[@thomasjorge4734]

All are Invited to the Wedding Banquet! Many refuse.

[@dwightschrute900]

Hey Trent, I’m interesting in getting your book on the papacy. Do you know any good books or articles against the anglicans church’s claim against the papacy and rome sending missionaries to England? Thanks! God bless.

[@cb352]

Eamon Duffy. Stripping of the Altars. Jesse Childs. God's Traitors. Eamon Duffy. Fires of Faith: Catholic England Under Mary Tudor. These are all up-to-date historiographical accounts of Catholicism in England, if you are looking for some more let me know. God's Traitors will be of specific interest to see the interaction between state agents and Jesuit missionaries.

[@chintagada1]

“POPE PETER” by Joe Heschmeyer

[@lukebrasting5108]

The Early Papacy by Adrian Fortescue (he was from a family of Anglo nobles and converted to Catholicism) and Upon this Rock by Stephen Ray.

[@dwightschrute900]

@@lukebrasting5108 thanks! ill check it out!

[@stephenjustice6097]

Watch stuff by Calvin Robinson too.

[@PInk77W1]

As of 2021, The net worth of John F. MacArthur is over $14 million. He has earned an annual salaried income of $160,000 for his services. John F. MacArthur earns as pastor-teacher for sermons for the Grace Community Church of Sun Valley, California.

[@JaythePharmacist]

You're videos are so addicting! I love all the rebuttals and "exposed" videos. I was previously a baptist and have come home to the Catholic Church; however I have realized I still have a lot of "protestant" or "evangelical" colored glasses when it comes to many teachings of the church and Christianity. Also in my small town there are many many many Evangelicals (post protestants i guess) that espouse a variety of beliefs even denying tenants of the reformers and instead advocating for a variety of beliefs from many different evangelical teachers. Your videos have educated my family and I so much in how to properly hear and identify Catholic ideas/philosophies and know what is truth, versus truth 'adjacent', versus false teachings. Please keep making these videos.

[@lukebrasting5108]

Have you read his book The Case for Catholicism? Meeting the Protestant Challenge by Karlo Broussard is another good one, then there's the Essential Catholic Survival Guide by Catholic Answers. All worth checking out.

[@noahalexander439]

@Eucharist Angel Nothing you said makes any sense, read church history and fathers.