Supreme Court Sides With Colorado Baker In Same-Sex Wedding Cake Case

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@Twelth21
@Twelth21 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gay myself and i thought what that couple did was ridiculous. Why didn't they go elsewhere???
@InsanityHere
@InsanityHere 6 жыл бұрын
Black Owt, I guess so they could make their mark in this worldly "system of things". Their puny mark will be made insignificant, yet no less an insult in the face of Jehovah God (along with billions of other violations of which man is capable), on Jehovah God's Day.
@AnonURnot
@AnonURnot 6 жыл бұрын
Ray Charles but that's not real.
@michaelsoweto4744
@michaelsoweto4744 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know, why didn't the blacks during the Jim Crowe era just find another restaurant to eat at, or another bathroom to use, or another drinking fountain to drink from... Are you fucking for real?
@Kornknealious
@Kornknealious 6 жыл бұрын
Black owt; Exactly! why did the gay couple not give their business to their own community first? Why did they have to go to someone they knew would deny them a catered cake. The baker did offer them a pre made generic cake...which is not exaclty denying them service.
@michaelmiller7786
@michaelmiller7786 6 жыл бұрын
Black Owt Because that would be allowing discrimination.
@kecola
@kecola 6 жыл бұрын
Just give your money to another baker that actually wants your business. If I were gay I wouldn't want someone that doesn't agree with my sexuality baking a cake for me anyway and would you really want to force him to? The lawsuit was frivolous.
@meekleak9597
@meekleak9597 6 жыл бұрын
Well said
@kecola
@kecola 6 жыл бұрын
meek leak Thank you!
@kecola
@kecola 6 жыл бұрын
Graph Guy Also, you do realize that it was the gay couple that brought forth the lawsuit, right? For you to say the lawsuit was not frivolous means that you agree that Jack Phillips, the baker, deserved to be sued for refusing to customize a cake that goes against his beliefs.
@Figs3
@Figs3 6 жыл бұрын
That's like someone refusing us because you're black or because I'm Mexican. Naw fuck that baker. Yes it might be considered an extreme, but this is how it starts. I would like to think as a fellow person of color you'd understand that biggotry is biggotry regardless of who it's targeting.
@armandoponce170
@armandoponce170 6 жыл бұрын
Figs3 you sir are stupid
@androlibre9661
@androlibre9661 6 жыл бұрын
just go to another damn baker
@androlibre9661
@androlibre9661 6 жыл бұрын
If I was banned from this one I would....and I wouldn't expect an LGBT themed baker to have to bake a cake for Westboro Church with a message on it they didn't agree with. The gay communities greatest strength has always been the gay dollar. Hell, the only reason the DNC ever pretended to support gay marriage before it polled over 50% was because gays raised a lot of money for them.
@ChrisofCT
@ChrisofCT 6 жыл бұрын
thats not the point, of course they could find another baker and of course it makes sense to do business with someone who actually appreciates your business. its about challenging our public accommodation laws. Does a baker's free expression claims allow him to deny service to someone based on their protected identity? The court did not answer that question, but agreed that Philips was treated unfairly.
@androlibre9661
@androlibre9661 6 жыл бұрын
My answer to your question would be YES. Especially when you're talking about custom goods. I wouldn't expect an LGBT cake store to have to make an ANti LGBT God Hates F**s cake for the Westboro Baptist Church nor would I want a Jewish Bakery to have to make a Nazi themed cake. And public accomodation laws went too far in the first place. I like people being able to self segregate and market amongst themselves. FYI i'm black and gay and I can tell you the gay community is making the same integration mistake the black community made. I'm sure you'll immediately disagree with me but implore you to think about it from the prospective of not what you think you can gain but what youre going lose if this presses further and you force yourself into everybody elses space
@ChrisofCT
@ChrisofCT 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to get into whether public accommodation laws were good or bad but I think the "custom goods" question should be revisited by the Court.
@ChrisofCT
@ChrisofCT 6 жыл бұрын
Ian Jones what is there to disagree about exactly? When a baker makes a cake that conveys a message, no reasonable observer thinks the cake’s message is the baker’s words, it’s clearly the message of the customer. If I get a “happy birthday” cake for my son, does everyone at the party think the baker is wishing my son a happy birthday? I simply don’t buy the compelled speech defense from the baker.
@thecolourred6857
@thecolourred6857 6 жыл бұрын
As a gay man I'm happy they found in favour of the bakery and not those bullies, let the free market decide not the government
@hardovski7103
@hardovski7103 6 жыл бұрын
I no spel good that’s the truest answer of them all. The internet will find you an alternative and someone happy to serve you.
@ColonelCarnage
@ColonelCarnage 6 жыл бұрын
That sort of attitude those two displayed only makes their cause worse off
@mgtowarena9636
@mgtowarena9636 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. I don't agree with the cake baker's decision, but anyone should have the right to do business with whomever they choose. I will tolerate his behavior, regardless if I agree with it or not.
@Sarah001994
@Sarah001994 6 жыл бұрын
I no spel good would it be okay with you if people could deny service based on skin color?
@mgtowarena9636
@mgtowarena9636 6 жыл бұрын
Sarah, if I read his comment correctly, whats considered "ok" to I no spel good is irrelevant because people should have the right to do business with whomever they want. Sure, morally it could be considered wrong to deny someone business for whatever reason, but it doesnt make it illegal, thats the idea of a "free market". The liberal notion of tolerance and acceptance of everyone works both ways. Diversity of thought is just as important as diversity of gender, skin color, age etc. I am not religious, I disagree with the cake maker decision, but I agree with the court ruling. Make sense?
@KILLER171865
@KILLER171865 6 жыл бұрын
If he was a Muslim this wouldn't even be a problem.
@heneraldodzz4978
@heneraldodzz4978 6 жыл бұрын
KILLER171865 agree
@racpatrice
@racpatrice 6 жыл бұрын
Because Christianity is the truth so the devil wants to shut us down. I heard about this story all the way from my little country of Trinidad. I'm so happy the court ruled on behalf of the baker.
@dondraper4438
@dondraper4438 6 жыл бұрын
KILLER171865 As a Muslim man I am inclined to agree with you. The left definetly has double standards.
@mr.cotrain7042
@mr.cotrain7042 6 жыл бұрын
packr72 Triggered!!
@KILLER171865
@KILLER171865 6 жыл бұрын
packr72 Seems we got a member of the LGBT mafia over here who wants to shove his lifestyle and beliefs down everyone's throats and force all of us to kiss up to the LGBT community's fragile ego. No, a religious Muslim man should not have to bake a gay wedding cake just like this Christian man shouldn't have to. That is fundamentally against their beliefs. But leftists defend Islam left and right and act like it's the greatest thing ever while ignoring that it is even more strict on gay relationships that Christianity. You LGBT people I'm really getting sick of. I have no problem with gay marriage or relationships but I do have a problem with the LGBT community harassing and bullying everyone on the internet who does not accept or feel comfortable with gay marriage.
@Megatron-sl5us
@Megatron-sl5us 6 жыл бұрын
As a Liberal, he has a right to freedom of religion, freedom of speech and freedom of expression. I couldn't believe this incident made National headlines. The gay couple should've gone elsewhere as I pretty sure many bakeries would've created a wedding cake for them. Instead they took the guy, his family and business to court. It should've been thrown out immediately. The gay couple, Jack's family and business all received unwanted attention, media coverage and threats from both sides. Its simple. If a business denies you for whatever reason, go somewhere else.
@angelcap4371
@angelcap4371 6 жыл бұрын
because its the same principle when a doctor refuses to treat a patient, who''s of a different religion...so with this court ruling, will doctors now be free from liability if they let their patient die, coz of the person's different religion.
@chronocross85
@chronocross85 6 жыл бұрын
Angel Cap... Treating a patient is a matter of life and death. Baking a wedding cake is not. The baker has made cakes for gay people many times. They just dont do wedding cakes for gay ppl. The baker has also said he doesnt do Adult theme cakes and halloween cakes because that is also against his beliefs
@kellyannwalter4615
@kellyannwalter4615 6 жыл бұрын
angel cap ppl die all d time cause they can't afford life saving treatment. The Dr chooses not 2 treat. So should they b prosecuted? Is that discrimination?
@AnonURnot
@AnonURnot 6 жыл бұрын
Megatron2013 what if the reason is a white man marrying a black girl. Would it still be better to go somewhere else? I agree they (the gay couple) should've done that, but what the baker did was discriminatory.
@ezioehxo9870
@ezioehxo9870 6 жыл бұрын
angel cap and who died because he didn't want to sell them cake?
@yourwisecousinjoe8841
@yourwisecousinjoe8841 6 жыл бұрын
This is an absolutely right decision.
@Jojohumf
@Jojohumf 6 жыл бұрын
It’s Christophobia, they want to force their beliefs over those Christians. As long as he was respectful then what’s the issue. Who’s belief is superior
@williamruiz1919
@williamruiz1919 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it is!
@williamruiz1919
@williamruiz1919 6 жыл бұрын
Jay Smith I agree the baker had a dream and made it a reality, to run a business that allowed his beliefs not to be trampled on by others who hold other beliefs. The court said his dream is valid too, great day in America.
@berjaboy
@berjaboy 6 жыл бұрын
Would any of this ever been an issue if the gay couple were refused by a Muslim baker? I don't think so, I believe the media and local courts would of sided with the baker and that would of been that.
@AnonURnot
@AnonURnot 6 жыл бұрын
berjaboy double standards. If this was a black man marrying a white woman and the baker refused due to his views, what would you think?
@ElinWinblad
@ElinWinblad 6 жыл бұрын
MrSpinel then it would be discrimination . I don’t think any religion has anything about interracial coupling. Could be wrong though.
@hardovski7103
@hardovski7103 6 жыл бұрын
berjaboy probably right. Christians in particular are treated with little respect compared to other religious groups.
@hardovski7103
@hardovski7103 6 жыл бұрын
MrSpinel to be fair if you want to refuse to serve customers that’s an easy way to a bad review and would hurt your bottomline.
@Skydron
@Skydron 6 жыл бұрын
The issue is that both gays *and* Muslims are essentially 'protected classes' according to progressive and the Left. I think that the Left and Co hope that such a situation *never* occurs because it would show them for what they are... and they could never be able to justify their actions. The Muslim establishment would be homophobic for refusing to serve the gay couple, as the Islamic faith frowns on homosexuality... but at the same time, if they tried to do what they attempted to do here (ie force the baker to violate his religious beliefs), then they would be guilty of Islamaphobia. There is *literally* no way for them to justify their actions in such a scenario.
@michaellongoria9162
@michaellongoria9162 6 жыл бұрын
I think people wear their ethnicity and sexuality like a shirt just so they can find conflict of interest. Being gay should be a secondary priority behind being reasonable. Whatever touches your genitals shouldn't define you as a person. It's just a preference. I don't let being bisexual rule my life. Excellent ruling, and good luck to the baker.
@Kornknealious
@Kornknealious 6 жыл бұрын
Detox; PREACH!
@michaelvalencia9826
@michaelvalencia9826 6 жыл бұрын
Detox Sense finally someone gets it.
@irreligiousidiot3541
@irreligiousidiot3541 6 жыл бұрын
Detox Sense No they just want to be treated like people and not have to hide it in the closet just to get the same treatment as a straight couple.
@Kornknealious
@Kornknealious 6 жыл бұрын
Irreligious Idiot; that is an irrelevant excuse today. No one has to hide in the closet any more. (except maybe straight white men) And you're pushing your personal ideology against someone elses personal ideology...which always creates a bad outcome. (yes, always)
@Kornknealious
@Kornknealious 6 жыл бұрын
Thah; nope
@SouthernGentleman
@SouthernGentleman 6 жыл бұрын
Why do people expect Christian bakers to have highly sexual themed cakes on the menu? That’s like going to a Chinese restaurant and demanding them to serve you Texas barbecue.
@crystalwashington9280
@crystalwashington9280 3 жыл бұрын
Haha
@johnwinchesterp2963
@johnwinchesterp2963 6 жыл бұрын
Well done supreme court.
@OvroProductions
@OvroProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic outcome! Real justice has been rendered.
@nathankolosh4216
@nathankolosh4216 6 жыл бұрын
I’m all for same sex marriage but no one should ever be forced to make something that they don’t support
@Joeyblondewolf2
@Joeyblondewolf2 6 жыл бұрын
For someone who is in the LGBT and is gender-fluid I'm happy for him! Just go to another damn bakery! Don't make it into a big deal and be a bully! I bet if he was Muslim the left wouldn't make a fuse over it.
@alexcarrion4450
@alexcarrion4450 6 жыл бұрын
it's his right 🇺🇸
@alexcarrion4450
@alexcarrion4450 6 жыл бұрын
jfsfrnd yes it is deal with it....
@InsanityHere
@InsanityHere 6 жыл бұрын
jfsfrnd, Soon, it seems to me, that there should only be a SCOTUS, to rule any cases here in the USA. It's possible the SCOTUS just doesn't realize this yet. I'm sure the individual Justices have pondered the possibility over many sleepless nights.
@ShadowOfRahl
@ShadowOfRahl 6 жыл бұрын
Ryan Brooks - I didn't realize that "telling it like it is" was the same as melting.
@Mizuna752
@Mizuna752 6 жыл бұрын
Pryzmatiq look at the end of the day who cares, that couple could have probably walked less than a block and found a baker that would have made a cake that was just as good if not better but instead they made a big deal out of nothing. The baker has every right to say they won’t do a specific item they do it all the time he didn’t out right say “I won’t serve you at all” he simply said he wouldn’t make a custom wedding cake which is actually quite common for bakerys to do especially if they have a large amount of orders.
@rockbeauty3439
@rockbeauty3439 6 жыл бұрын
Peanut Butter Alright so I can put up a sign in my future bookstore that says, no Christians, no conservatives, no white people and no people named Joel? Cool beans. Free market and ect.
@muhammadabdul7038
@muhammadabdul7038 6 жыл бұрын
I respect someone’s decision not to do what’s against his morals. This is good news.
@LissaBroyles
@LissaBroyles 6 жыл бұрын
Just as it's wrong for the state to tell 1 group of people they can't marry, it's also wrong to tell businesses or churches who they must serve. For those who don't know, the next totalitarian step had this decision went the other way would've been forcing churches to oversee gay weddings under threat of government punishment using the cake decision as a precident.
@tradebasedonnaturalresourc8777
@tradebasedonnaturalresourc8777 6 жыл бұрын
"it's wrong for the state to tell 1 group of people they can't marry" That is so confused. Firstly... They would not be prevented from marrying, they would just be prevented from marrying someone of the same sex. There is a purpose for marriage that same-sex couples do not fulfill. But the destruction of marriage came decades before this garbage. Same-sex marriage was just flies on a cadaver. And we are all in very deep trouble because of it.
@ChrisofCT
@ChrisofCT 6 жыл бұрын
this is just completely wrong. Churches and private religious clubs are not public accommodations and are totally free to discriminate.
@usul573
@usul573 6 жыл бұрын
Scott Broyles Can we refuse to serve black people? Women? Christians? Jews?
@LissaBroyles
@LissaBroyles 6 жыл бұрын
TradeBasedOnNaturalResourcesAndClimateNotSlaveLabor No it's not confused. The state telling 1 pair of law abiding tax paying citizens that they can marry while telling another pair they can't is ridiculous. & it's legislating religious taste. Since all anti gay sentiment stems from religion, & we are supposed to have separation of church & state guess what? The government should by it's own doctrine see no difference in marriage based on sexuality. & did you just argue that because gays can't have children they shouldn't be able to marry? Ok. What about sterile people? if some farm girl gets kicked in the cunt by a mule & can't have kids is she out of the wedding club? How bout the elderly? What about straight people who don't want kids? Do the same rules apply to them, or just the people your trusty holy book condemns to hell somewhere between people who eat lobster, people who pick up sticks on Sunday, & people who fuck their wives while on the rag?
@LissaBroyles
@LissaBroyles 6 жыл бұрын
Usul573 Sure why not? If that happened today the free market, the media, & a public mob would sort that shit out in under a week.
@lenalove8138
@lenalove8138 6 жыл бұрын
You don't want the bakers GOD or his truth...... but you want him to make your cake
@michaelvalencia9826
@michaelvalencia9826 6 жыл бұрын
LenaLove there's a cake God? Sounds delicious!
@NileSings
@NileSings 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this was decided this way, but I'm sure this baker has baked cakes for many atheists.
@agentfayelauxx8164
@agentfayelauxx8164 6 жыл бұрын
LenaLove LOL.
@jasondyrkacz8270
@jasondyrkacz8270 6 жыл бұрын
NileSings I'm also pretty sure that the atheism wasn't even in the conversation.
@drewbartlett460
@drewbartlett460 6 жыл бұрын
If he makes good cakes...
@kennethbowers2897
@kennethbowers2897 6 жыл бұрын
The most disturbing part was when the CCRC stated that Jack Philips' views were comparable to perpetrators of the Holocaust. Statements like that are very unprofessional, unnecessary and over exaggerating
@charlie4christ536
@charlie4christ536 6 жыл бұрын
Romans 1:27 " And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved."
@chronocross85
@chronocross85 6 жыл бұрын
I would have baked the cake but as a small business owner I am happy with this ruling. You should never have the Government telling you who you have to serve. The gay couple should have just gone to another bakery. Now they wasted their time and money on lawyer fees. The baker also doesnt bake Adult theme cakes, and halloween cakes.
@joshipp761
@joshipp761 6 жыл бұрын
That's Right, he can refuse service based on Christain beliefs
@garrettstephens3081
@garrettstephens3081 6 жыл бұрын
He didn’t refuse to sell to them. He just didn’t want to make a custom wedding cake for their wedding. He would of happily sold them a birthday cake
@TheGuitarplayer112
@TheGuitarplayer112 6 жыл бұрын
but that's not what they were there for there were the for a wedding cake and the baker refused hence then breaking Colorado law making it illegal to refuse service to gay people
@garrettstephens3081
@garrettstephens3081 6 жыл бұрын
TheGuitarplayer112 Which went against what he believed. He doesn’t feel any ill will against them but we just couldn’t do that particular cake
@Jose04537
@Jose04537 6 жыл бұрын
TheGuitarplayer112 They did it specifically so they could sue for discrimination & blackmail him. Otherwise they would have gone to a baker who would accommodate them. Notice they didn't go (through 3 states) to a Muslim Baker (and they would never do it). It's not a vital service that you are obligated by law to provide. Imagine if you sue a Muslim to paint an Muhammad portrait, same here: you violate his freedom to act, artistic freedom & religious freedom.
@Mizuna752
@Mizuna752 6 жыл бұрын
TheGuitarplayer112 except he didn’t refuse them service he just said he wouldn’t make a specific item which he has every right to do.
@jayden7945
@jayden7945 6 жыл бұрын
I want a cake with swastikas on it , make me the cake or I’ll sue you
@justin-ej1wt
@justin-ej1wt 6 жыл бұрын
Great victory, glory to the lord Jesus
@johndanielson3777
@johndanielson3777 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus is hatred
@justin-ej1wt
@justin-ej1wt 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Hawkins you are being possessed by the devil , repent of your sins,
@jimmiecisco
@jimmiecisco 6 жыл бұрын
justin Praises and Glory to Our Lord Jesus Christ!!! AMEN AND AMEN
@angelcap4371
@angelcap4371 6 жыл бұрын
a hateful Christian...hard to put those 2 words in one line, but fits you...and Jesus also said dont judge others...what makes you so sure, they're already judged?
@angelcap4371
@angelcap4371 6 жыл бұрын
really, you speak for him? In Jesus' 3 yrs of ministry and preaching, he could have mentioned at leaast once, of his opinion of homosexuality...If it was so important, Jesus could have something, but didn't ..What he did speak against was juding others, adultery, hypocrisy...what people of this country practice and do....
@agentfayelauxx8164
@agentfayelauxx8164 6 жыл бұрын
Praise God. That’s the best news and best win in 2018. Keep up the good work.
@ElectrikkPaperClipxx
@ElectrikkPaperClipxx 6 жыл бұрын
Mad Dog XYZ please tell me you’re joking
@agentfayelauxx8164
@agentfayelauxx8164 6 жыл бұрын
ElectrikkPaperClipxx i am serious. People have the right to follow their beliefs. None of them go bother the muslims. Can you tell me Why?!?! I am waiting for them to go ask for their services. It is not like they don’t have bakery shop.
@ElectrikkPaperClipxx
@ElectrikkPaperClipxx 6 жыл бұрын
Mad Dog XYZ I asked because you said it’s the best news
@agentfayelauxx8164
@agentfayelauxx8164 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, because he didn't lose his job and wasn't force to make a cake.
@ElectrikkPaperClipxx
@ElectrikkPaperClipxx 6 жыл бұрын
Mad Dog XYZ better things have happened this year than discrimination
@ericl1608
@ericl1608 6 жыл бұрын
If the bakers like Phillips refuse to bake the wedding cakes for the same sex couples, that's fine; they could go to other bakeries or somewhere than file the lawsuits. Good luck to Masterpiece Cakeshop and gay couple!
@ericl1608
@ericl1608 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's true.
@amykolterman3744
@amykolterman3744 6 жыл бұрын
The Oregon State commissioner did far more damage and had more biased ZEAL, against the other cake baker. The Oregon case is very in your face, religious HATE I have ever seen. This particular case will bite the LGBT community in the butt. Sometimes you become what you fight.
@jimmiecisco
@jimmiecisco 6 жыл бұрын
Jean Kennedy but that's NOT what has happened in this case. Don't bring up variables and hypothethic scenario. In other words stop adding your own spin because you are way off track😑😐
@ColonelCarnage
@ColonelCarnage 6 жыл бұрын
The Baker was more than willing to sell them anything else or point them to another baker who could make their gay wedding cake. These two clowns were just out to try and ruin his life and make an example of him.
@RaizerZ
@RaizerZ 6 жыл бұрын
Jean Kennedy So people should be forced to do something they aren't comfortable doing or go against their belief? Fuck off back to Europe if its so much better.
@ShadowsandCityLights
@ShadowsandCityLights 6 жыл бұрын
Yay! I'm happy for them!!! This shows that harassment goes both ways. I wouldn't walk into a muslim bakery and expect them to bake a christian cake.
@justice_k6440
@justice_k6440 6 жыл бұрын
ShadowsandCityLights Dude. You can say that again!
@mahmudulhassanhasib3816
@mahmudulhassanhasib3816 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's like going to an airport to ride a ship. You can ask them for anything normal or neutral though. There are a couple of nice Muslim bakeries.
@joshipp761
@joshipp761 6 жыл бұрын
Cant go to McDonalds & expect them to serve Burger King
@bryancampbell2484
@bryancampbell2484 6 жыл бұрын
A person owning his own private business can refuse to serve anyone whom they want, even on grounds of their religious beliefs. This is America, if you want a cake so bad, go to another bakery. It is obvious that they were seeking something else by taking it to court on grounds of discrimination.
@joshinthesauce4636
@joshinthesauce4636 6 жыл бұрын
Bryan Campbell Its not like the Baker's bakery is the only bakery on the planet.
@datemasamune2904
@datemasamune2904 6 жыл бұрын
He wasn't against baking a cake for gay people, but for making a gay themed cake. He said he was perfectly fine if he made them a cake with a different theme. You can't force someone to make something they don't want to do. That's like expecting Wendy's to host a party for McDonalds.
@Wii602006
@Wii602006 6 жыл бұрын
Good, those two gays were just trying to BULLY the shop owner into doing something they KNEW was against his religion. If you want RESPECT, you MUST give respect.
@williamhenley8593
@williamhenley8593 6 жыл бұрын
The gAyS in this story we’re idiots
@lenalove8138
@lenalove8138 6 жыл бұрын
GOD WINS AGAIN
@Jbayz
@Jbayz 6 жыл бұрын
LenaLove God will always win. Its not a contest for Him.
@Wingedmagician
@Wingedmagician 6 жыл бұрын
Fuck god. This is about freedom.
@ShadowOfRahl
@ShadowOfRahl 6 жыл бұрын
Your God must be equivalent to descrimination , because that's what won. Objectively.
@Wingedmagician
@Wingedmagician 6 жыл бұрын
Pryzmatiq discrimination that someone refused to do something for them? What if you were asked to make a pedophile cake? Just show a grown man and little girl kissing on the top. Oh you wouldn’t do that?
@nonyabidness5708
@nonyabidness5708 6 жыл бұрын
Not God. Just common sense.
@Man0fSteell
@Man0fSteell 6 жыл бұрын
That man stood for his faith in GOD ! BRAVO!!
@larikipe940
@larikipe940 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gay and I say it's about time someone stand up to the bullying and intolerance of the radical left. !*!*! 20 TRUMP 20 !*!*!
@ragnagamez5644
@ragnagamez5644 6 жыл бұрын
Lari Kipe lol if the left sees this comment they’ll be like “but ur gay, u should be on our side”
@larikipe940
@larikipe940 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, prymatiq, more words of hate and intolerance from the anti-diverse left. If you don't follow their very narrow and specific narrative, they even call into question your sexuality and validity. You fucking hypocrites.
@Ranstone
@Ranstone 6 жыл бұрын
@ Lari Kipe If this conversation was in real life, I'd give you a high five, and offer to treat you to lunch. I respect your respect, dude.
@myloveisallyours4217
@myloveisallyours4217 6 жыл бұрын
Lari Kipe RADICAL left??? I’m so confused lol
@marissa21211
@marissa21211 6 жыл бұрын
I’m a Christian and I have a gay close friend. He knows that being gay is a sin and I told him about the gospel but he refuses not to be my close best friend because he tells me that every time when he’s with me he feels so comforted and feels the presence of God when he’s around me. His worst fear is losing me as a friend. It’s hard but I always pray for him and I hope God will save him. I love my gay friend so much. It hurts me to see him live in that lifestyle.
@joshipp761
@joshipp761 6 жыл бұрын
Mary, yes I know exactly how you feel. Hard to see the ppl we love contimue down path of destruction
@AnnabelleJARankin
@AnnabelleJARankin 6 жыл бұрын
Good. No private business should be compelled to act against their will or conscience.
@TheGuitarplayer112
@TheGuitarplayer112 6 жыл бұрын
well its a good thing he wasn't a private business
@Cappellano
@Cappellano 6 жыл бұрын
Finally some common sense! Nobody should be forced to go against their convictions, especially if they are in the right within the law to do so. The couple thought they could play the victim, but the court knew what they were up to.
@YourWeirdAunt
@YourWeirdAunt 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you God.. some sanity still remains in our country. So happy for Mr. Phillips and his family, and hope they're able to take wedding cake orders again without any further confusion or opposition.
@YourWeirdAunt
@YourWeirdAunt 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah the days of the government forcing people to do things they are opposed to doing/providing services that they are not obligated by law to provide( AKA slavery) are over. They can go buy a cake somewhere else. Maybe try a muslim bakery next time. See what happens.
@YourWeirdAunt
@YourWeirdAunt 6 жыл бұрын
also, cry about it some more. The decision is made. The right person won, and there isn't shit you can do about it :)
@YourWeirdAunt
@YourWeirdAunt 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Hawkins yeah you might wanna lay off the meth
@YourWeirdAunt
@YourWeirdAunt 6 жыл бұрын
Jean Kennedy its his store. Free market. Dont like it move :-)
@angelcap4371
@angelcap4371 6 жыл бұрын
isnt this the same principle when a nurse or doctor refuses to treat a patient of a different religion?
@Evergreen_77
@Evergreen_77 6 жыл бұрын
to read all the comments from gay individuals siding with the supreme courts decision is so wonderfully refreshing.
@LissaBroyles
@LissaBroyles 6 жыл бұрын
I'm disturbed that the vote wasn't unanimous.
@NotAGoodUsername360
@NotAGoodUsername360 6 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: Don't trample on the rights of others in the name of flaunting your own rights.
@Jprager
@Jprager 6 жыл бұрын
As much as I don't discriminate at the end of the day you can't force someone to do what you want, it's his shop, if he doesn't want them as customers then he doesn't have to
@sakurakou2009
@sakurakou2009 6 жыл бұрын
The bakery should sue the couple for the fee of their lawyer and wasted time and defemation
@tradebasedonnaturalresourc8777
@tradebasedonnaturalresourc8777 6 жыл бұрын
+bochap21 Hey! Seen much of that spammer lately? BWAAAHAHAHAAA!!!
@TheNaphisa03
@TheNaphisa03 6 жыл бұрын
CONGRATULATIONS!!!! This is a win for us Christians! They want respect but cannot give the same to others.
@veridisquo5164
@veridisquo5164 6 жыл бұрын
The Hollanesian I think his point was that Christians have been bashed on by the media and finally there’s a ruling supporting them. Not saying that everyone shouldn’t have the ruling but Christians haven’t gotten a win in a long time because of the media blaming them for everything.
@CVert151
@CVert151 6 жыл бұрын
That's a joke. Since when have Christians ever been denied their rights to worship without infringing on the rights of others? Christians are the ones that fought tooth and nail to deny gay people the right to get married.
@footestomp
@footestomp 6 жыл бұрын
I'm straight and support the baker xD
@niamhbutler5685
@niamhbutler5685 6 жыл бұрын
Just go to a different baker, why would you want to give your money to someone that isn’t tolerant.
@rigobertolopezmateo
@rigobertolopezmateo 6 жыл бұрын
I'm Mexicano and I support Jack Phillips!
@angelcap4371
@angelcap4371 6 жыл бұрын
as a Mexican you shoud know what inequality feels like...stop @sskissing.
@rigobertolopezmateo
@rigobertolopezmateo 6 жыл бұрын
angel cap inequality exists in Mexico! I know it all to well amigo.
@rigobertolopezmateo
@rigobertolopezmateo 6 жыл бұрын
bearpapie69 I'm not calling you a snowflake but I will say that you're melting faster than the popsicle you're sitting on right now!
@rigobertolopezmateo
@rigobertolopezmateo 6 жыл бұрын
bearpapie69 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@AnonURnot
@AnonURnot 6 жыл бұрын
Rigoberto Lopez Mateo calm down meng. Ju actin all craysi I'm salvi
@hecke1959
@hecke1959 6 жыл бұрын
Congrats Mr.Baker because you stood for what you believed. Now that's freedom.
@Mr78nozza
@Mr78nozza 6 жыл бұрын
Wow 2012 if trump hadn’t won 2016 this baker would been baking that cake for the gay couple right now
@therealrobinbullock
@therealrobinbullock 6 жыл бұрын
Would you have eaten a cake baked by a guy you just crushed in court?
@PolishAviationStaffordshire
@PolishAviationStaffordshire 6 жыл бұрын
What does Trump have to do with the ruling? I'm sure that only one Supreme Court Justice has been appointed since President Trump took office, that of Gorsuch in 2017, which clearly didn't affect the decision that the Court made today as it was a 7:2 majority...
@InsanityHere
@InsanityHere 6 жыл бұрын
MrYouthworker16, Not necessarily so. Trump or Clinton would make no difference who's in office. If he testified baking the cake for the gay couple went against his faith, then why would a worldly influence (like Trump or any other human) compete against God?
@AnonURnot
@AnonURnot 6 жыл бұрын
Ray Charles because there's a separation of church and state.
@ezioehxo9870
@ezioehxo9870 6 жыл бұрын
MrSpinel there's still freedom of religion
@TheHipisterDeer
@TheHipisterDeer 6 жыл бұрын
Thank god, democracy isn't quite dead.
@TangibleExistence
@TangibleExistence 6 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love it!
@Scorpio-lz5bm
@Scorpio-lz5bm 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Hawkins You are pathetic! Move on, is this the only bakery on earth? Lol.... By the way, since you are gay, try to pull this stunt in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Indonesia n etc...
@zxzxx7998
@zxzxx7998 6 жыл бұрын
Great! Love from Sweden. Would love to have him bake my wedding cake!
@bigfan1041
@bigfan1041 6 жыл бұрын
At least there's still some sense in the world. The government shouldn't infringe on a private business freedom of association.
@kategreaves_daisies1000
@kategreaves_daisies1000 6 жыл бұрын
Religious hostility has no place in today's society! Well done! ❤️
@maureensvitak2586
@maureensvitak2586 6 жыл бұрын
look, there must be basic respect for religion....if you hire a caterer and he is kosher or follows halal preparation....you can't sue because you want pulled pork barbeque......please do not tell me every baker in town is a strict Christian.....they did it for purely political reasons....got called on it....and lost...
@hvdiv17
@hvdiv17 6 жыл бұрын
it shouldnt have gone to court to begin with. i would sue Colorado.
@syscoby226
@syscoby226 6 жыл бұрын
hvd iv no doubt colorado needs to be sued
@rocksolid5362
@rocksolid5362 6 жыл бұрын
Donate, Donate, Donate! Support Moral/Ethical Businesses!
@METALMAN4Wii
@METALMAN4Wii 6 жыл бұрын
Good for him, his fucking Business.
@aleksandrt.4500
@aleksandrt.4500 6 жыл бұрын
Very Pleased with the court decision.
@1nsaneviper2
@1nsaneviper2 6 жыл бұрын
USA USA USA 🇺🇸
@FalconsEye58094
@FalconsEye58094 6 жыл бұрын
Patrick Stewart commented on this years ago saying nobody should be forced to do something if they don't want to. Seems like gay discrimination has been flipped around
@FUW-guy
@FUW-guy 6 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is Muslims refuse gay cakes. Yet no one brings it up also I have nothing against gays, but the way the skinny one is walking at 1:07 is weird to me.
@pandapal13
@pandapal13 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like in this country you have the right to be wrong. I completely disagree with the baker and his stance, however I believe he has the right to that stance no matter how offensive I find it. Tolerance is a two way street.
@RandomRandomnessKCMO
@RandomRandomnessKCMO 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly .... It's a private enterprise ... He can refuse anyone for any reason ...
@TiltedShot25
@TiltedShot25 6 жыл бұрын
"We have the right to refuse service to anyone." Every restaurant I go to, there's that sign. Simple to follow, simple to understand. Keep that in mind and don't gloss over incidents where you're unjustly refused. You can always leave a bad review.
@walterhigo7658
@walterhigo7658 6 жыл бұрын
YES!!!!!! #DivineJusticePrevailed
@walterhigo7658
@walterhigo7658 6 жыл бұрын
Jean Freedom of Speech and Religious Liberty won today, so you are ABSOLUTELY WRONG! #DevineJusticeNeverFails
@walterhigo7658
@walterhigo7658 6 жыл бұрын
Jean You got it ALL WRONG! 1) The phrase "Freedom of Religion" in THIS particular case, refers to Jack Phillips's right not to be FORCED to become a FACILITATOR of an EVENT that is contrary to his religion. Jack is not imposing his views on anyone. In fact, he offered this couple other cakes in his store but they REFUSED service. 2) This is not about the "SELLING" aspect, or about "BAKING" something. It is about the ENDORSING of an EVENT by virtue of an ARTISTIC CREATION. It is like forcing a writer who identifies as LIBERAL to write a speech promoting CONSERVATIVE views. You just CAN'T do that. It's WRONG! #NoActOfDiscriminationPresentInThisCase #JackPhillipsWasKindToThisCouple
@atheistsrnumber1
@atheistsrnumber1 6 жыл бұрын
Jean how's it feel being on the wrong side of history? The only bigots are against the baker
@atheistsrnumber1
@atheistsrnumber1 6 жыл бұрын
Jean Kennedy could you sound like any more of a talking point?
@atheistsrnumber1
@atheistsrnumber1 6 жыл бұрын
Jean Kennedy comparing the civil Rights movement in the 60s to homofascism just shows how ignorant you are
@lariat4t
@lariat4t 6 жыл бұрын
As a previous business owner Kudos to the Supreme Court. We are free in America and if I as a business owner choose not to do business with any customer that is my right. As a customer if a business does not want to do business with me, I will take my business elsewhere. For instance you wearing addidas sneakers and tommy bahamas clothes walk into Norstrom or Gucci the sales people become reserved. Do you continue to shop or walk out and shop elsewhere? Its America the land of the free. I say to the newly married couple get over it! Just because you are gay does not mean you are better than anyone else.
@acts238ministries8
@acts238ministries8 6 жыл бұрын
Good! Christianity wins.
@nonyabidness5708
@nonyabidness5708 6 жыл бұрын
Conservative Roulette No. Common sense and RIGHTS win. This would have been the outcome no matter what religion was connected with this issue.
@acts238ministries8
@acts238ministries8 6 жыл бұрын
Nonya Bidness true.. but in his case in not believing in same sex marriage and his belief in Christianity gives Christianity a win.
@nonyabidness5708
@nonyabidness5708 6 жыл бұрын
Conservative Roulette They didn't rule this way because of Christianity. That only happened to be the religion involved.... If it had been a believer of Islam involved, would you be saying it was a win for Islam? They also don't believe in gay marriage. The point is that it was a win for religious freedom, not one specific religion.
@acts238ministries8
@acts238ministries8 6 жыл бұрын
Nonya Bidness no.. I would not say a win for Islam. Don’t put words into my mouth. You obviously misconstrued my post and read into it waaay toooo much! It’s a win for Christianity
@nonyabidness5708
@nonyabidness5708 6 жыл бұрын
Conservative Roulette I didn't put words in your mouth. I took what you described as your point of view, removed the word Christianity in there are replaced it with a different religion. And now you're saying then you wouldn't say it was a win for Islam? Why not? Literally the same situation... Friend, that was my point exactly. This wasnt a win for a specific religion. It was a win for general rights including some religions. #Logic #CriticalThinking #StopAndRereadYourArguments
@mrtimjitsu
@mrtimjitsu 6 жыл бұрын
Last time I checked, forcing someone to perform labor against their will was... what's that word that we keep being reminded of?.... oh yeah, slavery.
@avacrawford3175
@avacrawford3175 6 жыл бұрын
mrtimjitsu paid labor.. that’s such a shitty and ignorant analogy. i support the decision the court has made but going and whining that this situation is any bit comparable to the suffering black people went through is so ignorant and honestly just dumb.
@charlie4christ536
@charlie4christ536 6 жыл бұрын
Glory be to God. People need to turn from their sin and turn to Christ for salvation instead of seeking a "wedding" cake.
@GermanRojas-wf3hr
@GermanRojas-wf3hr 6 жыл бұрын
They could just go to another bakery instead of making drama.
@marquaswilliams5817
@marquaswilliams5817 6 жыл бұрын
Praise Ye The Lord
@dread12059
@dread12059 6 жыл бұрын
If the man was to refuse because of their sexual preference then that is a personal issue. Now if the 2 guys went to bully the man then yeah he shouldn't make them a cake for that matter.
@felixpereira4183
@felixpereira4183 6 жыл бұрын
In good time, the supreme one gives respect to what is logical and natural. I congratulate this person for his courage and his religious convictions. Sadly, homosexuals have a limited "happy life", not because society rejects them, but because they know that their position is sinful and goes against the laws of God.
@nathanieladjei3573
@nathanieladjei3573 6 жыл бұрын
Felix Pereira congratulations, you are a moron
@InsanityHere
@InsanityHere 6 жыл бұрын
Nathaniel Adjei, OK, so what do you think is the alternative for people who are not gay?
@cbell3922
@cbell3922 6 жыл бұрын
Shut up moron!
@InsanityHere
@InsanityHere 6 жыл бұрын
C Bell, And what are your qualifications? See www.jw.org. You're welcome.
@cbell3922
@cbell3922 6 жыл бұрын
Ray Charles 🙄
@tiffanyh5421
@tiffanyh5421 6 жыл бұрын
Freedom of religion needs to be protected as well. He wasn’t refusing to sell you anything or to service you at his shop, he was refusing to create art celebrating something that goes against his personal beliefs. This couple could have easily gone to another shop to get their cake they were just picking a fight for their LGBT agenda. They cry out about intolerance yet are not tolerant of others who disagree with them. I don’t care if someone disagrees with me and then sue them because of it that’s crazy. You can’t make people go against their beliefs. It would be like me asking to have my wedding at a mosque or a Jewish temple where they disagree with my beliefs and way of celebrating. Go ahead and get married just don’t make others submit to you and your beliefs.
@carolswitzer8327
@carolswitzer8327 6 жыл бұрын
Fabulous glad to hear finally a victory for people who own businesses. They should have the right to serve or not serve anyone they choose. Regardless of reason. No shirt no shoes no service comes to mind.
@jackcrow9736
@jackcrow9736 6 жыл бұрын
Carol Switzer I totally agree. For me what came to mind first was "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone"
@ChrisofCT
@ChrisofCT 6 жыл бұрын
yeah but "no shirt no shoes no service" has to do with the person's conduct in your establishment. denying service simply based on something immutable, ie. who the person is (ie. black, Christian) rather than what the person does is illegal discrimination.
@NumbDigger22
@NumbDigger22 6 жыл бұрын
He doesnt have to service degenerates if he doesnt want to.
@shezad7165
@shezad7165 6 жыл бұрын
Congratulations!
@tradebasedonnaturalresourc8777
@tradebasedonnaturalresourc8777 6 жыл бұрын
This issue is not just about religion, it is about FREEDOM. Not about WHO to serve, it is about WHAT to serve.
@PCasas88
@PCasas88 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@lunachilde2000
@lunachilde2000 6 жыл бұрын
Yes!! While I support LGBTQ rights I also support the rights of business owners to refuse service for whatever reason they want. This gay couple could easily have gone to another baker but instead decided to make a political stink and it blew up in their faces. This wasn't discrimination, it was a man standing up for HIS rights and freedoms. WELL DONE!
@jonmacdonald5345
@jonmacdonald5345 6 жыл бұрын
Just bake your own damn Cakes you pole Smokers!
@bobsaget7315
@bobsaget7315 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with the baker for refusing but I do agree it is his right to. Good ruling by the SC.
@luxeternity
@luxeternity 6 жыл бұрын
Of all the shops they can order..it must this one they target ..like really ?
@nonyabidness5708
@nonyabidness5708 6 жыл бұрын
They drove out of their way to set this up...
@robd8336
@robd8336 6 жыл бұрын
2018, have to find a way to feel like a victim somehow.
@emmi55310
@emmi55310 6 жыл бұрын
Hallelujah !
@Dajen_Tk
@Dajen_Tk 6 жыл бұрын
Woohoo!! Oh yeah!!
@munkimunki1496
@munkimunki1496 6 жыл бұрын
Merci n thank you
@seanstuder60
@seanstuder60 6 жыл бұрын
The secret ingredient? Hatred.
@ChronicBreakdown
@ChronicBreakdown 6 жыл бұрын
Thank God. He has every right to refuse.
@eddnhaila3895
@eddnhaila3895 6 жыл бұрын
Long ago when it has just started I have commented on this incident by saying he has the right to refuse, now I salute the American justice. For being just.
@dionnet24
@dionnet24 6 жыл бұрын
The Baker shouldn't be FORCED to do anything he doesn't want to do. He has rights as well.
@TheGuitarplayer112
@TheGuitarplayer112 6 жыл бұрын
no he doesn't Colorado law says otherwise refusing service on the basis of sexual orientation is illegal
@milagrosmiracle80
@milagrosmiracle80 6 жыл бұрын
That’s ridiculous that they went to court for this. They could’ve just gone somewhere else.
@DavinR16
@DavinR16 6 жыл бұрын
You simply have the right to refuse service
@michaelnelson9211
@michaelnelson9211 6 жыл бұрын
*Tummy rumbling* Great. Now I'm hungry. 😂
@ondreatorrence4322
@ondreatorrence4322 6 жыл бұрын
Yessssss!!! So happy to hear this !
@mq8543
@mq8543 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad he won. That's like going to a Chinese restaurant and expecting them to take their Buddha statue down because you're from a different religion.
@joshipp761
@joshipp761 6 жыл бұрын
Victory In Jesus....how SWEET!!!
@enigma3383
@enigma3383 6 жыл бұрын
My question is why is this a courtcase at all. Its a goddamn cake.
@kingplays5364
@kingplays5364 6 жыл бұрын
Thank god he was supported
@TheBoss2288
@TheBoss2288 6 жыл бұрын
Bro this started 6 years ago. I was in in high school hearing about it in government class. I’m now a senior graduating from college....
@ReneAensland
@ReneAensland 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gay as well and I'm glad he won. Thank God for reasonable judgement.
@CanadianLoveKnot
@CanadianLoveKnot 6 жыл бұрын
You wonder why other countries think America is a laughing stock.
@ngreat4390
@ngreat4390 6 жыл бұрын
Can't they find another baker? What if he had said he was too busy? So they were attacking him for his faith yet they wanted to foist their indecent behavior, flaunt their queer and force him to bake them a cake. No! He's not their slave so he had the right to refuse. The couple look sick and unhappy especially the one with spindly legs.
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