I struggled with this case for years. Been gay myself my obvious loyalty I guess should be with the gay couple but my conclusion is 1) They targeted his shop to prove a point 2) if I were getting married the last thing I would want is someone creating something so personal who didn't support my right to marry the person I'm in love with and 3) They are persecuting his rights in exactly the same way gay people have been persecuted for years! Everybody is not going to live the same life and have the same beliefs...ever! My philosophy is very simple, I respect everybody's right to freedom, to live their life in the way they choose (so long as it hurts nobody else) Been Gay isn't a choice and it isnt easy but the LGBT community has embarrassed and failed many of us and frankly I'm ashamed that people I'm supposed to support have put someone like Jack through such a horrendous ordeal just for having different beliefs! Please don't judge all gay people to be the same because we're not.
@slayerette86m6 жыл бұрын
The thing is that, you are free to have whatever beliefs you have. The law is there to create an equality among this country's citizens. It equalizes us. The thing is, even if they wanted to prove a point, which is totally childish by the way, you are operating a business to the public. Everyone involved is being childish. Everyone. There is no good person here.
@mt.lagunatimelapse3116 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fox Very respectful reply.
@sagheerahahmed15466 жыл бұрын
I'm happy that you being a gay person can understand that it is not right to restrict someone's freedom in such a way, forcing them to be artistic. It would be like forcing a musician to play, a poet to write or an artist to paint. It simply can not and should not be done. Jack Phillips respected them and who they are, but they didn't respect his business or his beliefs.
@TheMelocoton77775 жыл бұрын
I believe you. And I'm very happy that you shared that bc I really hope that not everyone one is like those people that did that to him. I hope that we will never have to be threatened just bc we don't agree with other people like you for example. I want you to know that I don't agree with what you're doing or what you are but I will always respect you and love you like I will try to do with everyone else, and I hope that all people have the same respect as me to you especially we christians. I pray that you treat us the same way ❤️
@befirmbefair66745 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@letwinmujokoro41516 жыл бұрын
100% behind you Jack. God will see you through this persecution.
@TheMoggFREE6 жыл бұрын
The fact that he is a gentle soft spoken person, you know he doesn't want to discriminate. He's just want to live his faith.
@PracticalPerry2 ай бұрын
B.S. A gentle soft spoken person who will not make a cake for a committed same sex couple, but instead wants to call them sinners and horrible people. We are not fooled.
@protochris7 жыл бұрын
This is not about discrimination; it's about someone who was "offended" by Jack's religious beliefs. They are using the government to force Jack into a submission of conscience.
@protochris7 жыл бұрын
A California judge just ruled in a similar case for Tasties Bakery in Kern county, not on religious grounds but instead "free speech" or free expression. The ruling essentially says the couple would have had to be denied a cake that was "already made" instead of contracting a design. This makes perfect sense. The gay couple is essentially forcing the man/woman to create something he finds objectionable for not just gay, but straight customers to request..
@slayerette86m6 жыл бұрын
Yes, call it what it is. People can't keep using religion to justify their views. The way you all spin this is ridiculous. I think a lot of you will live and live and live on this planet till you learn the ultimate lesson: love.
@protochris6 жыл бұрын
The Beatles tried that; it doesn't work. It only works if we love God first.
@hjalmar.poelzig3 жыл бұрын
No one cares about Jack's religious beliefs unless he uses them as an excuse to discriminate against others in his business. The Religious Right's campaign against gay people is certainly odious, but you're entitled to your personal prejudices.
@protochris3 жыл бұрын
@@hjalmar.poelzig Jack didn't discriminate against anyone; he offered the same product to all. He also didn't bake halloween cakes; I suppose the goblins can claim discrimination.
@saviinicole22006 жыл бұрын
john 15:18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world." jack phillips is a true hero! for the kingdom of heaven awaits him. he is a true leader for ALL Christians. when your faith is tested STAND BY WHAT YOU BELIEVE.
@b.r.17914 жыл бұрын
So your saying even though gays are hated by the world that its okay Jesus was hated too :o. And he choose us to be alive. So its okay to be gay thanks
@kleeamd8274 Жыл бұрын
@@b.r.1791 You clearly don't understand the meaning of the scripture😂😂 "If the world hates you, keep in mind it hated me first" Jesus is saying there "if the world hates you for believing in Me, keep in mind it hated Me first" You do NOT believe in Jesus because you live your life in sin & do NOT repent for it. And if you actually read the Bible, then you'd know God hates 🌈 people.....because He killed them all in Soddom and Gomorrah So.....nice try😂😂😂😂
@madeline60486 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry this happened to you and your your family Jack. Stay strong in the Lord brother!
@judytaggerty61087 жыл бұрын
KEEP AMERICANS FREE. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, IN GOD WE TRUST.
@marymarshall70627 жыл бұрын
Judy Taggerty yes.yes.yes!!!
7 жыл бұрын
PrincessLuLu, "KEEP AMERICANS FREE."? So in practice being free not only means the makers of the cake has the inherent right to reject anyone and everyone they for what ever reason they don't want to serve? So that means you think it's OK to reject any customer on grounds of race, religion, gender, age, class, status, size, hair colour you name business should have the right to refuse to serve them? Do you seriously think that would be an acceptable workable thing to do?
@Mk101T7 жыл бұрын
It is an acceptable thing to do , to stop doing business with people who have expressed a christian persuasion on the internet or otherwise social media. It's time that we make the mark of the beast rEAL~ cuz you know they believe it. Hence they are not interested in humanity doing better ... they would like to see it burn down. So no more working with anti social people ... yur done ! Bye bye ... go hang with each other in a closet. Back to the Caves Biotches ... which is when you were better christians by the way. Now your just a bunch of whiney holy er than thou ass holes. Who alot of times are hypocritical.
@luvdomus6 жыл бұрын
Gods divide people, they do not unite us. You live in a society with many religions, not just your own, and an increasing number of Americans want no part of your religion.
@jamesdelinois30697 жыл бұрын
Jack did the right thing like the three young Hebrews did to the king NEBUCHADNEZZAR with the abominable golden statue. Gay people have the same right with everyone. Jack have the right to refuse service to someone who asked him to do something that goes against his belief and faith. Just go somewhere else.
@diversejoe6174 жыл бұрын
Those gays were like the king who forced the 3 Hebrew men to bow down, they forced him to support they're gay wedding, great example, as a result they hurled them into the firey pit but survived, as a result with Jack, he lost several relationships but in the end he got help amazing lesson about sticking to your guns
@neilyakuza65957 жыл бұрын
You should sue the other party for loss of income due to their self centred actions.
@rusty79846 жыл бұрын
Neil Yakuza He really should but he’s not about that vengeance and hate filled life he appears more like the type that would forgive and forget unlike this couple that threw a hissy fit because someone hurt their feelings which is ironic because they want to make him out to be the hate filled, intolerant, homophobic, bigot
@BloodandSoil9906 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy for him. So glad he won his case. He seems like a great nice and humble human being. God Bless you sir. He will honor you.
@trevorjames74904 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Agree.
@dexter16731386 жыл бұрын
Im gay and I support you to be honest. I can always go to someone else, I dont think you hate me my dude.
@dextermorgan64646 жыл бұрын
God loves you and so does this baker who just wants to keep firm in his faith.
@johnisaacfelipe63576 жыл бұрын
dexter1673138 thank you, one of the nicer comments here.
@ems38326 жыл бұрын
dexter Thanks, Dexter. You're a refreshing voice of reason and intellect! Now, go give that message to the dingbats up above like luvdomus, jean kennedy and michael swofford! Get ready to be called a "bigot," however. Oh, wait... (LOL)
@ems38326 жыл бұрын
Tomas L Well said!
@howardfowler22556 жыл бұрын
How can you hate someone you don't know or have just met? And do we really show hatred to someone if we don't affirm their lifestyle or choice of who they love or don't love? And why do so many label a person phobic this or phobic that when that person is neither fearful or hateful of any special group of people?
@avowedindependent39346 жыл бұрын
Delano Igba 1 second ago It is apparent that this gay men did not really want only a wedding cake. Else, they would have quietly gone to another baker to bake their cake. They went to this Christian baker to pick up a fight with the intent to persecute him, and if possible bankrupt his baking business with the ensuing legal battles. This is not an end but just a beginning. You can't, in trying to give certain individuals their peculiar freedom, trample on the freedom of others. I am a Christian that believe all creation was created by God. The same God did not only create the first humans (Adam and Eve) to exist on the earth male and female, but instituted marriage to be a conjugal union between a man and woman; male and female. Through this union of marriage between a male and female, humans have procreated over the years to cover the earth. If two men, or women want to marry each other and the state has granted them the legal grounds to do that, I have no problem with it. I will not go to their wedding to tell them I do not believe in what they are doing because I want to respect the state law. But I will have a problem if they want to use the state's ant-discriminatory laws against gay marriage to force me to render service for them to do what I believe is a violation of a sacred institution that God Himself instituted - most especially if the service they are trying to force me to render is under a private business that I am running. In my opinion, this gay men persecuted this Christian masterpiece wedding cake designer / baker. More of these Christian persecutions are going to be happening in USA and the western world generally in the years to come.
@mintyjang7 жыл бұрын
This is a travesty of justice...I support Jack.
@song91197 жыл бұрын
I support this baker all the way! No one should be able to force him to do something that conflicts with his religion.
@sams.98036 жыл бұрын
so i should be forced to come to your aid if you are in car wreak is that right becouse of religion becouse i would'nt bigot
@mt.lagunatimelapse3116 жыл бұрын
Sam S. Not having a cake at your wedding is not a risk of life.
@mt.lagunatimelapse3116 жыл бұрын
Jean: It is the attitude supporting comments like yours that pushed the court to their decision. Keep up the good work.
@mt.lagunatimelapse3116 жыл бұрын
I did. And you continue with your hate.
@mt.lagunatimelapse3116 жыл бұрын
You can't stop can you.
@dorisgarcia66837 жыл бұрын
Thank you for supporting Jack!! In God we trust!!!! Let us hold EVERYONE up in prayer 🙏🏼 thru such a time as now...
@princesslulu57957 жыл бұрын
Really sad he and his family have had to go through all of this all because he dared to have a belief that disagrees with some people's views. He wasn't hurting anyone and didn't turn anyone away. That's very different than declining an individualized contract such as making a wedding cake. No law says every time a customer makes an offer for a custom cake you must accept it. That would be nonsense. Honestly seeing jack and his family fight so hard I would choose his business over another in Colorado if I lived there. Someone who cares that much about their convictions they're willing to fight and risk everything for it, that's a good person to have in your corner
@kwazooplayingguardsman56157 жыл бұрын
If I confess to you that I'm a nazi and I want to buy guns or if I go to a jewish synagouge and demand their synagouge to house my muslim marraige. These people should be able to refuse service. There's a difference when talking about private and public institutions, In public institutions your teachers can't deny students certain topics, In private ones, they can, nor could a doctor who's hospital fees are payed for by the government, Taxi drivers refuse riders all the time, some even for petty things like their clothes or behavior. Anything you own, should be yours, and that means that if you own a service or business, you have the right to do what you want with the business or service provided that it doesn't hurt anyone. Refusing someone a cake because of their religious beliefs didn't hurt them. and yes, we already deny people certain services based upon race and sexuality, Affirmative action, gender specific programs and schools, religious schools, disability-specific programs, etc. We exclude sections of populations when we commit to these programs yet its perfectly fine in the law. They're forcing them to make a cake for an event they don't want to participate in, If I said that I want you to make a cake for my KKK meeting, I would expect you to have the right to refuse.
@jerrykrause44587 жыл бұрын
+Piper Vail - You are challenged to substantiate your ill-claim that Jack Phillips declined to create the cake because they were gay. Thank you.
@jerrykrause44587 жыл бұрын
+Piper Vail - He declined the request to created the cake for the message that he was asked to create (same-sex marriage), regardless the sexuality of the individuals who made the request. Anyone could have asked for the same cake and Jack would have declined. Otherwise, he offers the same exact service to all regardless of their sexuality. This is well documented. Thank you.
@partyhearst65797 жыл бұрын
Jerry Krause Who OTHER than a gay couple would request a wedding cake for a SAME-SEX wedding? Clear cut discrimination. You parrot ADF's terrible talking points very well though.
@jerrykrause44587 жыл бұрын
+Party Hearst - You said it yourself and seemingly do not even realize it. It is undisputed that the exchange between Jack and the couple lasted maybe 30 seconds; that Jack politely declined, explaining that he would gladly make them any other type of baked item they wanted, but that he could not design a cake promoting same-sex because of his faith. See, Supreme Court blog: www.scotusblog.com/…/wedding-cakes-v-religious-beliefs-pla…/. Nor is it disputed that Jack is a Christian who closes his business on Sundays and declines to design other cakes that conflict with his religious beliefs-for example, cakes that contain alcohol, have Halloween themes or celebrate a divorce. Id. In other words, it is all about the cake; not who requested it. Thank you.
@bryan21277 жыл бұрын
I support you, Jack. I pray God protects you.
@RandolphAgarn17 жыл бұрын
what a scam
@unlucky13496 жыл бұрын
Well he didn’t
@luvdomus6 жыл бұрын
It's bigoted men like Jack Phillips that are giving Christianity a bad name and discouraging young people from religious practice.
@luvdomus6 жыл бұрын
Jack the baker acted out of hate, not compassion. Shame on him.
@vitus.verdegast6 жыл бұрын
Bryan 212 Jack the anti-gay baker is giving God a bad name.
@SomeOneFromOFS6 жыл бұрын
The couple's only interest from walking out of that cake shop that day is to become victims and try to be heroes... Didn't quite work out. He is the hero in this story.
@SpritMatterMan6 жыл бұрын
Jack is an American Hero and an American Icon!!! May The Lord God Almighty continue to Bless and Protect Jack and his family!!!!
@jenniferwillis26025 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good fight and protect all of our freedoms! I can’t believe they are after you again, Jack. Sending you lots of love and praying for healing from the pain this process has taken on you and your loved ones. ❤️
@emilyanderson725 жыл бұрын
A kind, humble man who simply wants to respectively live out his faith. Thank you Lord for this beautiful example of unwavering faith in the face of adversity, and quiet strength that preservers through difficult circumstances while still showing respect and love to those who oppose or even strive to do him and his business harm.
@란-w1z6 жыл бұрын
If Jack was discriminating against LGBT, than explain to me why he refuses to create anti gay cake.
@Tsuruta17 жыл бұрын
When they mentioned how they received numerous phone calls after he declined to make a product not included in his product line, THAT told me that vehement LGBT DELIBERATELY targeted his business knowing he is Christian, with a Christian-based business. And they like to call those of us who are benevolent in disagreeing with them "mean spirited."
@RandolphAgarn17 жыл бұрын
boo hoo follow the law.
@Tsuruta16 жыл бұрын
Randolph Agarn He did, and you people can't stand it.
@RandolphAgarn16 жыл бұрын
he is a fucking criminal
@Tsuruta16 жыл бұрын
Randolph Agarn On what charge?😕
@jayfarias84406 жыл бұрын
Randolph Agarn Please tell us how it is illegal.
@Tsuruta16 жыл бұрын
SCOTUS ruling 7 to 2 in favor of Phillips Masterpiece Cake shop.🎊🎉😁🗽💒 Justice prevails!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@avalineboyce-regis36005 жыл бұрын
I agree with the SCOTUS, and really it should have been 9 : 0 instead of 7:2, because NO ONE should be forced to do something against his/ her beliefs. Mr. Jack Phillips is a christian that believes that marriage is between a man and a woman. Why should he has to go against his christian's beliefs? Those two gay men set out to make an example of him. Let us be clear here, Jack did not refuse to sell them any item in the store, he refused to make a wedding cake for two men, which goes against his beliefs. If the cake was for a man and woman, Jack would have made the cake. Why does anyone have to go against what he/ she believes in to please someone else, or the LGBTQ people? It is very simple, the gay men could/ should have gone to another baker to have their cake made for their wedding, and choose never to go back to the store. Then because the gay men did not get what they wanted from Mr. Jack Phillips, then people going to use death threats to force the baker to go against his beliefs. Where is the acceptance, and tolerance for Mr. Jack Phillips, the baker from the two gay men, and the people that threatened the baker?
@kekkelpenneypeckeltoot57007 жыл бұрын
People want their right respected yet refuse to respect yours. It's horrible and I'm so sorry for you all. Remember our treasure is in heaven and Jesus said to be happy when we are persecuted for him. I can't imagine that it's easy, but I'll be praying for you continually. Be strong and lean on Jesus. He is your rock.
@BDR01106 жыл бұрын
Lots of love from Indonesia, Jack!!!
@Decomposer-rl3bw2 жыл бұрын
He knew he is right to refuse them
@TheNaphisa036 жыл бұрын
We need to put a GO FUND me for him. He's lost a of income since those 2 attention seekers messed up.his business
@drag0nerd5 жыл бұрын
www.adflegal.org/enough-is-enough/donate Since he's in court again, I found something similar
@in2surfing7 жыл бұрын
God bless you for standing up for Jesus. You are honoring an audience of One and that’s Jesus 💕💝💖
@blueberryfan70446 жыл бұрын
"Standing up for Jesus" my ass! He is discriminating against LGBTQS!
@GP71_OO4 жыл бұрын
Jesus said nothing about homosexuality, not even one word
@KelechiNwoko3 жыл бұрын
@@GP71_OO he said it mathrew ch 19
@KelechiNwoko3 жыл бұрын
@@GP71_OO and are you saying that a Jesus have his own different opinion than the Father ?
@vicious-pi3rd6 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Jack 👍 Amazing, how the gay community would do this to him. Instead of going to another shop. Yet, they talk about peace and love!
@vicious-pi3rd6 жыл бұрын
Jonny Sevent The fact of the matter...nobody is better than the other but humans sure stride to keep it going with each other don't they! Always finding reasons ways to cause conflict with one another.Until somebody or group declare a so called "victory" When in hindsight you was no better the moment you started the argument!
@johnisaacfelipe63576 жыл бұрын
Jonny Sevent says the guy who has absorbed the lessons on morality from societal tenants that Christianity has erected. Study the case, Jack acted as a complete gentleman towards the gay couple.
@johnisaacfelipe63576 жыл бұрын
Jonny Sevent "Christianity pretends that they invented morality" we don't, but we have practiced it and introduced guidelines to a virtuous life. Christianity itself is a marriage between Hebrew script and aristolean philosophy and the multiple catchechism of the church. the dominance of the church during Europe's formative years have enveloped its societies with Christian philosophy and most nations who were direct derivatives of Europe owe much of its practices and social doctrines to the church. The doctrine of monogamous marriage, coveture, familial piety, laws regarding statements done in confidence, perjury, and a majority of natural law which owes much to its existence to Christian scholars law Augustine and Aquinas.
@johnisaacfelipe63576 жыл бұрын
Jonny Sevent and I care how Jack acted because I'm not an insipid hypocritical bigot who'll lay judgement without understanding the particulars of the case. You have essentially acknowledged that you are forming your opinions on your perceived notions and prejudices rather than the facts of the case.
@johnisaacfelipe63576 жыл бұрын
Jonny Sevent and what's the unjustified claim? That the man cannot personally design a cake advocating gay marriage? He offered them any of his pre-made cakes instead yet they stubbornly refused and threatened to sue him. He was cordial and gentlemanly, never was aggressive to the couple and asked that they should respect the limitations of his beliefs and offered them a different kind of service in compesention. Yet we are supposed to act as if Christians aren't allowed to hold and practice their beliefs. "Not-christian-sense", is something that you cannot sure ascertain as the culture you are born into has already infused itself with Christian philosophy and ideals. The time you acknowledge that faithful monogamous relationships are good is you already acting on Christian philosophy. The time you believe that mercy is better granted than complete domination, the time you refrain from lust, gluttony, wrath, sloth, envy, pride, and greed or viewed these characteristics as destructive is already you kowtowing to Christian philosophy. There are multiple cultures that venerates or accepts pederasty, or child marraiges, or bigamy/polygamy, or lust, etc. The reason why our culture is different from theirs stems mostly from our heritage as a Christian nation.
@kennethbowers28976 жыл бұрын
There is no *redefining marriage* , it's between a man and a woman. This man is an inspiration.
@scottcorbett24463 жыл бұрын
@Kenneth Bowers absolutely
@reflections4me5 жыл бұрын
I support you... thank you for standing up, for speaking up, and most of all to still remember what a original family looks like.
@psalm1627 жыл бұрын
As a Christian, I'm seeing more and more hatred for the faith . . . but then, Jesus did say to expect it (John 15; Mt. 10, Mark 13) and John said "don't be surprised" by it (1 John 3). Praying for Jack and those under similar persecution. The supreme court ruling is only supreme as far as US borders are concerned. God is the Supreme Judge, and under his authority every knee will bow. Would love a victory here, but looking forward to the guarantee of victory to come! #comelordjesus
@robkaOK7 жыл бұрын
"God is the Supreme Judge, and under his authority every knee will bow." This is why religion continues to lose the argument. As long as the religious in our society continue to pretend that the deity they worship is "supreme", whether that deity is Krishna, or Baal, or Zeus, or Yahweh et al, civil law will continue to win court cases. It is no small wonder that our criminal court system includes verdicts of "guilty, not guilty, and not guilty by reason of insanity"...end of list. There is no "god told me to"; the Abrahamic religions would love to have that included, yet there is no civil court in this great country that will allow it. Ever wonder why that is?
@robkaOK7 жыл бұрын
Only your narrow religious-indoctrinated world-view is in danger of being destroyed.
@robkaOK7 жыл бұрын
Well, you just wait til Zeus gets wind of this. You'll be burning in a lake of fire, for sure.
@robkaOK7 жыл бұрын
You're just making it worse for yourself. Repent now while there's still time and I may put in a good word for you with Odin.
@robkaOK7 жыл бұрын
Time's running out. Better repent now, and Vishnu will perhaps be pleased with your sacrifice. Oh, and learn to spell god's name. You've been warned.
@Crazyaboutpaper17 жыл бұрын
I see NO discrimination here, Mr.Phillips served these customers before ,it is only in their wedding he would not participate by baking the wedding cake. I pray our Supreme court makes the right decision . kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJi6epuPdtmUpJY Steven Crowder went to a Muslim bakery and asked to bake a cake for Gay couple and they refused , so it is ok but when Christians do that ,it is a civil rights issue?
@jerrykrause44587 жыл бұрын
+SM - Ignoring the trolls, you make many good points. Thank you.
@jeffreyscottsgames93087 жыл бұрын
sciencetrumpsfaith lol rather believe in that then a science that cant prove whether he is real or not 😂😂😂
@partyhearst65797 жыл бұрын
S M That 'Louder with Crowder' video has been debunked. There were no legal protections for LGBT people in Michigan at the time that was made. Plus a number of those bakeries didn't specialize in wedding cakes. One only sold bread. I thought it was the fire and brimstone bunch that hated "fake news" 😂
@jerrykrause44587 жыл бұрын
+Jeffrey Thiele - No need to give any thought to Sciencetrumpsfaith who is a verified troll. Of course, a "troll" is a person who breaks netiquette on a regular basis by posting inflammatory messages (called flames) when responding to other users in the forums. Trolls are also users who will find older flame-filled threads on a forum and reply to them just to get users worked up again. They may also fall into name-calling, lies and spreading fallacies. Thank you.
@jerrykrause44587 жыл бұрын
+SM - Just to let you know ,or if you already know then a reminder, this being your thread you can always block trolls like Sciencetrumpsfaith. He gets blocked by many. Thank you.
@keenanflowers36146 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad the case was won! Let's support the re-establishment of his business! To God be the glory!
@Mustafa-Kamal-Satar3 жыл бұрын
Can a non-Muslim customer ask a Muslim chef to cook PORK for him, and then deciding to drag the chef to court because the chef refuse to cook PORK for him even though the chef insists that touching, handling and cooking pork goes against his Islamic religion?
@zunino6313 жыл бұрын
That's right!
@pyrochemists63092 жыл бұрын
Straight adult couples always being the only good couples ever, No valid exception.
@nqobizithaalbert85006 жыл бұрын
GOD BLESS YOU ELDER JACK, Am real convicted by the Sermon God Has preached through a sincere servant Jack, Your unconditional humbleness has proved it all that indeed you're God's extension of love.. we'll keep on praying for you and family.
@playbook0087 жыл бұрын
I am with Jack. As a paralegal, I know what is at stake. I hope Freedom of Speech, with the right of artistic expression wins the day. Glad Alliance Defending Freedom is repenting Jack Phillips. He is in good hands. Carpe diem!
@friendsdontliepapaisntdead24515 жыл бұрын
I support LGBT and was raised by a gay couple and we all support the Baker. My parents said they would have thanked him for his time and just left.
@MrCryptler697 жыл бұрын
We got your back Jack. Our prayers are with you and your family! God is blessing you!
@Malignus687 жыл бұрын
Don't let this video mislead you. Jack admits he didn't discuss any element of the same-sex cake's design. He didn't refuse based on any element of the cake's design, he refused because it was for a gay wedding. Even if they wanted a plain white cake, he would have refused. That is NOT artistic integrity as this video would have you believe, it's pure discrimination and in Colorado it's illegal.
@atheistsrnumber17 жыл бұрын
Try using facts.
@ZachYDeng6 жыл бұрын
Finally heard some just comments on this
@wlk24087 жыл бұрын
Jack God bless you and your family.
@selamuselam39276 жыл бұрын
Jack philips , you’re a true Christian and hero , God bless you and your family.
@leehan-yeol70497 жыл бұрын
Present day American: Forcing people to do something that is contrary their beliefs. Just sickening.
@vitus.verdegast6 жыл бұрын
If your "beliefs" include bigotry, you should change them and the law should should encourage you to change.
@vitus.verdegast6 жыл бұрын
An how about the government preventing white Christians from discriminating against blacks and Muslims-- is that also 'sickening?' Or is it just gays that it is OK to do that to?
@williampratt33576 жыл бұрын
Poor homophobic Evangelicals, forced to obey anti-discrimination laws and respect the rights of people they hate-- sorry, no one feels sorry for you.
@hjalmar.poelzig6 жыл бұрын
Ryungun Rie We force racists to serve minorities, do you want to do away with those anti-discriminarion laws, too?
@hjalmar.poelzig6 жыл бұрын
Ryungun Rie It's prejudice and discrimination that is sickening, not civil rights laws designed to protect minorities.
@StormTanyaLane6 жыл бұрын
Good on your Alliance for going to the aid of a faithful man. So happy to see the outcome in Jack's favor
@vreedlak72686 жыл бұрын
I don't know what you've been smoking - BUT THE DECISION HASN'T BEEN DELIVERED YET. It's expected at the end of the Supreme Court's term at the end of June 2016.
@d.anthonynelson77177 жыл бұрын
I 100% support jack phillips!
@Benjamin-iu5ys6 жыл бұрын
D.Anthony Nelson same
@mt.lagunatimelapse3116 жыл бұрын
Zach Kettel - not very tolerant of someones beliefs.
@blueberryfan70446 жыл бұрын
I don't really support him.... It is kinda against *us*
@mt.lagunatimelapse3116 жыл бұрын
Not really against "us" - whoever "us" is, just because he believes in something different.
@blueberryfan70446 жыл бұрын
Us LGBTQs -_-
@mabco8887 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jack Phillips. Thank you ADF. May God bless you no matter what happens. I pray that the Justices see the love, kindness, and conviction in your heart, and rule for what is right and Constitutional.
@vreedlak72687 жыл бұрын
I'm with you Marco. Apparently Jack Phillips fucked his daughters - but, it's OK - just like Lot in Leviticus, he was drunk.
@mabco8887 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your input, Lucifer.
@jerrykrause44587 жыл бұрын
+Marcos - They are simply being trolls and as such showing their immaturity and ignorance. On the other hand, your comment was very well stated. Thank you.
@ZachKettell6 жыл бұрын
Marcos constitutional? Fuck you!! What’s constitutional here is liberty for all! That includes everyone of any religion, race, gender, disability, and sexual orientation! Don’t call yourself a Christian if you believe its okay to discriminate against LGBT because the Bible says otherwise Matthew 19:19 “Honor thy father and mother; and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.”
@johnisaacfelipe63576 жыл бұрын
Zach Kettell learn to read the constitution. The first amendment forbids the government from enacting any law regarding religion and thus allows men freedom from and freedom of practice.
@artourious63467 жыл бұрын
Jack Philips, thats a real hero.
@luvdomus6 жыл бұрын
What are your other heroes-- George Wallace? He also upheld discrimination.
@dakotaadams14327 жыл бұрын
Your in my prayers jack from an artist to another, no one should force any one to do something they don't want to do. If I could give money to keep your business and keep creating I would. Don't give up creating.
@Jane-West7 жыл бұрын
Charlie and David, are you proud of yourselves? It will be interesting to watch the viciousness of your inevitable divorce.
@jgehbinv5 жыл бұрын
@Jean Kennedy - just one thing here Jean regarding your misquote of Jesus. You failed to point out that He forgave the women caught in adultery and told her to go and sin no more. He did not support her being stoned to death. That said your comment about Jesus supporting death to someone who commits adultery is without merit. That is a misquote. Respectfully.
@jgehbinv5 жыл бұрын
@Jean Kennedy - you did not respond to the point I made about the woman caught in adultery who was brought before Him. He did not uphold Leviticus. He forgave her for her sin and said go and sin no more. Yes it was in Leviticus. It is not in the New Testament. Regards
@jgehbinv5 жыл бұрын
@Jean Kennedy - Though Jesus did not explicitly condemn homosexuality (though He actually did, as will be noted shortly), that certainly could not be used as evidence that He condoned the practice. For instance, where does Jesus explicitly state that bestiality is wrong? Where in the New Testament does Jesus state that polygamy is wrong? Where are the “words in red” that specifically condemn pedophilia? Are we to suppose that the Son of God condoned using crystal meth because there is not an explicit statement from Jesus’ mouth that says “do not smoke crystal meth?” The idea that silence from Jesus on a subject means He approved of or condoned the practice cannot be substantiated. It must be considered that Jesus did, in fact, speak against homosexuality. On numerous occasions, Jesus condemned the sins of adultery (Matthew 19:18), sexual immorality (Matthew 19:9) and fornication (Matthew 15:19). These terms describe any type of sexual intercourse that is not within the confines of a marriage ordained by God. Jesus then proceeded to define exactly what God views as a morally permissible marriage. He stated: Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh”? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate (Matthew 19:4-6). By defining marriage as between one male and one female, Jesus effectively condemned all other arrangements, including but not limited to one man and two women, one woman and two men, three men and one woman, three men and three women, one man and one man, one woman and one animal, etc.
@jgehbinv5 жыл бұрын
@Jean Kennedy - Jean, God made us male and female. That is clear in Genesis and clear in the New Testament. We were all made perfect to start with and we made the decision, not God, to do it our way (sin). God did not make people to be gay. And with that science has made it clear that it is not genetic and it violates anatomical design and function. Reference a book on anatomy from a medical library Also, you did not respond to what I said on Jesus not specifically speaking to homosexuality as sin. Just because Jesus did not condemn the practice of homosexuality did not mean he approved it. It must be considered that Jesus did, in fact, speak against homosexuality. On numerous occasions, Jesus condemned the sins of adultery (Matthew 19:18), sexual immorality (Matthew 19:9) and fornication (Matthew 15:19). These terms describe any type of sexual intercourse that is not within the confines of a marriage ordained by God. Jesus then proceeded to define exactly what God views as a morally permissible marriage. He stated: Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh”? So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate (Matthew 19:4-6). By defining marriage as between one male and one female, Jesus effectively condemned all other arrangements, including but not limited to one man and two women, one woman and two men, three men and one woman, three men and three women, one man and one man, one woman and one animal, etc.
@jgehbinv5 жыл бұрын
@Jean Kennedy - Wow, God comes here as Jesus, lives the perfect life, dies on the cross for the forgiveness of everyone's sins, and you state he is not an expert on marriage? LOL. The God of the universe not an expert on marriage? LOL. Secondly, you choose to live in the Old Testament and ignore Jesus (God) in the New Testament, deeming him some inadequate human being on the matter of marriage and sexual conduct. is matter and that the Old Testament has the final say. That is not the case. Your repeated reference to the death penalty is not in the New Testament. Adultery is addressed as sin in both testaments, with Jesus making it clear that death for the adulterer (i.e. stoning) no longer is valid with Him coming here and dying on the cross for the forgiveness of sins. Also, just because all you quote in the Old Testament is mentioned there (i.e. multiple wives and concubines) does not mean God gave his stamp of approval on it. Old and New make it clear sex is to be confined to marriage and that marriage is between one man and one woman. And though he never directly states homosexuality as wrong, he never states it as right. Finally that is a very intolerant, hateful thing to say that male and female is only for reproduction. Very intolerant. I can assure you that my marriage to my wife goes WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY beyond that. LOL. In addition, it is physically natural, complementary between penis and vagina. Same sex can never be. That right there illustrates the sham of same sex relations and that is a fraud. Regards.
@Winchester19735 жыл бұрын
I could imagine Jack will create the wedding cake in heaven, when Christ will be reunited with His Bride. Bless your heart, brother!
@PaulA-vc6sn7 жыл бұрын
Jack, Stand Fast my friend, more support you than those who don't ! strength in numbers and Gods blessings !!!
@highqueen39116 жыл бұрын
This made me cry. No one should be forced to make something for your matters. It is his religion. Someone refusing to make your wedding cake is not the end of your life.
@mariobrony13967 жыл бұрын
Call me a homophobe, scream all you want, but i say, Jack is within his rights! Stand with Christ, and His message and let well enough alone!
@joelrodriguez12327 жыл бұрын
Dan Kisly amen! I would rather go to jail than bow down to a gay couple. My wife and l are praying for this man, l hope he wins.
@mariobrony13967 жыл бұрын
Jesus WILL have the final say!
@johnmark1507 жыл бұрын
So you are ok with a Muslim bakery refusing to serve Christians? Nobody has a right to discriminate.
@joelrodriguez12327 жыл бұрын
That is not the case here. If I went to a Muslim bakery and requested to have bacon in the icing on my cake, I know that the Muslim baker will refuse to do it because it goes against their religious beliefs. If you ask a Christian photographer to do some photography work for a porn movie, they are also going to refuse to do it because it goes against what we believe. it is that simple.
@mariobrony13967 жыл бұрын
Joel Rodriguez no he said his Christian beliefs are core why he refused
@mls-a98377 жыл бұрын
Support you totally Jack !! May God keep blessing you with your right to express your gift! And your beliefs 🙏🏻
@2804Freedom6 жыл бұрын
Support for the baker! These LGBTQSTUVWX ... guys should order their cakes in Saudi Arabia or Iran and celebrate a great big gay wedding there too! 😊
@milhouse147 жыл бұрын
There are states, cities and towns which have laws that ban public accommodation discrimination based on sexual orientation. Businesses are public accommodations. If you choose to run a business then you have to follow the law. If you don't like the law then don't set up a business or just move to a different place where discrimination based on sexual orientation is not illegal.
@kathy8886 жыл бұрын
yeh! supreme court decision! what a lovely, godly man serving God. I destest how they have tried to take the symbol of the rainbow over which is God's covenant to us. God is not mocked.
@garybone20707 жыл бұрын
Wow so much for a free country R.I.P America
@slayerette86m6 жыл бұрын
Guys, what are you all talking about? Enough with this persecution complex.
@Nicoratboy6 жыл бұрын
Now I know where I don’t wanna spend my money
@rusty79846 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry it’s heading back there again this man won his case about a month ago so we’re heading in the right direction
@n03l596 жыл бұрын
God bless you and your family,....
@scottcorbett24464 жыл бұрын
May Jack have a FULL recovery for his business. God Bless.
@sodapop88857 жыл бұрын
I want to get married just to order a wedding cake from him.
@jerrykrause44587 жыл бұрын
+Soda Pop - Your mentality is obvious. Thank you.
@accidentsurvey35537 жыл бұрын
Soda pop ...your heart is showing! :-)
@jerrykrause44587 жыл бұрын
+Tewdy Quew - If we were to challenge both his education and credibility, Sciencetrumpsfaith would fail terribly with his nonsense. The fact is, he is a well known troll. Rarely does anyone acknowledge Sciencetrumpsfatih and many even block him. A "troll" is a person who breaks netiquette on a regular basis by posting inflammatory messages (called flames) when responding to other users in the forums. Trolls are also users who will find older flame-filled threads on a forum and reply to them just to get users worked up again. They may also fall into name-calling, lies and spreading fallacies. Thank you.
@MrCryptler697 жыл бұрын
Are you saying your marriage is dependant on whether you get a cake from him?
@randyh42587 жыл бұрын
sciencetrumpsfaith why does that matter
@HopingforGodsreturnsoon3 жыл бұрын
@JackPhillips what an awesome man. My heart ♥️ is with you and your family and your business. I will start praying 🙏🏻 for you, for your family, for your business. Also for those that are attacking you, to stop 🛑 them, to restrain them and it is just so extremely sad that we are losing our freedoms in the country that used to be all about freedom. God Bless You for Your Courage and for Standing for God’s Principles. You are a rare gem 💎 nowadays. Kind of Daniel and Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, they were the only ones that didn’t bow and didn’t follow the world for fear of them, instead trust and have faith in The Lord. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@befirmbefair66745 жыл бұрын
What is at stake: The government shall not compel an individual to go against his sincerely held conscience.
@morganconder4017 жыл бұрын
Lots of prayers sending your way!!!💕
@candyclews40476 жыл бұрын
Well done on your victory Jack, in the name of Christ.
@natevince31545 жыл бұрын
In the 1960s and 1970s there was a mass movement for people’s rights: feminists, lgbt, race, etc. Now there is a fight for the right to believe in what you thing is right. Those beliefs are being further and farther away taken from us as American society becomes more and more secular, shying away from religion. God bless you jack and God bless anyone who believes and sticks to them no matter what.
@kristenelizabeth49226 жыл бұрын
My dear brother in Christ, you are standing up for God and He is with you! God ordained marriage, not man. We will all be going to the wedding of all royal weddings soon, "The Wedding Supper of the Lamb." Time is short, judgenent has started. Jesus is coming very soon. Your reward will be great in The Kingdom of Heaven. God bless you 💖
@dashmatt74457 жыл бұрын
Ahh I like this comment section. :) lots of people with hearts
@LoudGuitr7 жыл бұрын
Jack's beliefs are not being violated in any way. If they hadn't told him, he'd never know. Using religion to discriminate (indiscriminately, because he wouldn't know if it wasn't mentioned or they omitted the details) is not religious freedom. His freedom is intact because he isn't being forced to marry a man. Hasn't he made cakes for liberal democrats who are pro choice, unknowingly? What are the chances that that discussion would ever arise in the purchase process? Isn't it likely that he has sold cakes to plenty of gays, unknowingly? Could he sue a client who he discovered bought one of his cakes without disclosure of sexual preference? Hoping SCOTUS gets it right.
@slayerette86m6 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is why this case is beyond stupid. It's just a bunch of childish adults walking around like "I know you are but what am I." Pathetic. And these are the adults. I hope the next generation is different. I can't wait till these attitudes phase the hell out. It's just a cancer to the world.
@juleswinnfield2446 жыл бұрын
What an incredible man. God bless you Jack.
@creatvlioness33486 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe some of the people commenting on this video. They keep talking about how Jack and his business discriminates against gay people. If you watched the video, you should have heard all the times they said it wasn't the people, it was the cake! They didn't want to do something that conflicted with their values.
@rrano63316 жыл бұрын
If people haven’t noticed yet, the entire world has become a classroom...each day is bringing a new lesson about God and how we each understand Him. Watch and be utterly amazed...
@katarascal31837 жыл бұрын
Praying for you and your family Jack, what you have gone through is so unreal. Bottom line , your business, your rules.
@Brandon-w3o3 жыл бұрын
He may not fully appreciate this right now but his decision to stay firm in his beliefs has had and will continue to have a ripple effect throughout the world.
@veritasverita48397 жыл бұрын
They SCREAM "tolerance" and yet are THE MOST Intolerant. Go to another bakery. Brats!!!!!!!!
@slayerette86m6 жыл бұрын
Wait what? You're saying that people need to be tolerant of the intolerant?
@gourabkundu63246 жыл бұрын
slayerette86m Yes that is true tolerance. If u believe we should not tolerate the intolerant, then u should be against free speech.
@teleyq.90686 жыл бұрын
Veritas So true!!!
@luvdomus6 жыл бұрын
Veritas Verita Why should anyone have to go to another bakery just because of the prejudices of a business owner? You've never been discriminated against or you wouldn't blame the victims.
@luvdomus6 жыл бұрын
caveman Versace Bigotry is not a religious belief. Bigots simply invoke relgion as an excuse. You can still have your religion and serve all customers equally.
@Ir0nMa1d3n6 жыл бұрын
I support you. Those guys are making people with their own belief look terrible. You are brave, true, honest, and enduring. You are very loved.
@AliceNLi6 жыл бұрын
I want to be like him when I grow up :')
@avaranabraham85072 жыл бұрын
the gay couple are the bullies because they were victims to a bullies and they use their frustrations to attack that poor man like jack
@margaritapayne58037 жыл бұрын
God did say we will be persecuted for our belief stay strong cause even if the gays win ultimately there will be judgment. God will bring justice for your faithfulness in him
@slayerette86m6 жыл бұрын
Omg, no. Stop. Please. Don't poison yourself with these views. You guys are not being persecuted. Please. We are all on the same planet. We need to share this space together. Persecution is being rounded up. Omg, no.
@margaritapayne58036 жыл бұрын
Read Gods word what they are doing to him is wrong they. And you know even though I’m a devout Christian I still have gay friends that agree they are being persecuted for their beliefs they can easily go to another they just want money .my gay friend got married invited me but I didn’t go cuz I don’t support gay marriage and you know what he knew that and he didn’t mind we still are excellent friend to this day
@visionsofxtacy57716 жыл бұрын
I bet hell is fabulous 🌈
@TheNaphisa036 жыл бұрын
slayerette86m CHristians have been perseceuted from thr begining of times and its no different now. Plus it says so in our Bible. You must not be a Christian. So please keep.SHUT.
@TheNaphisa036 жыл бұрын
margarita payne good job, Maragarita for staying true to your beliefs! Going to that nasty wedding will be co signing thrir sexual deviant lifestyle
@TheNaphisa036 жыл бұрын
Jack is a true leader!!! He stood up for his beliefs and was immovable and unshakeable!!!
@teleyq.90686 жыл бұрын
He WON!!!!! 🙌
@teleyq.90686 жыл бұрын
Speak Truth Yes!!!! ✝️
@jewando16 жыл бұрын
They didn't really rule on the main issue just agreed the Colorado treated him poorly because of his religion, I think they're waiting to add one more conservative to the supreme Court before they take on the big issue
@vitus.verdegast6 жыл бұрын
Teley Q Why are you celebrating an act of bigotry?
@alfredabraham78226 жыл бұрын
michael swofford Because it is not?
@teleyq.90686 жыл бұрын
michael swofford what bigotry exactly?
@duronimos7 жыл бұрын
oh Jack. We love you man. Please please tell your dear wife that you arent alone. I am a baker from Australia so i know what your passion is. Good will come out of this. Baking and artistry is a difficult call. It requires total devotion.We are watching for you to be vindicated. You are lovely people and know that the stand you have taken is a godly one.
@ME-vr1qi7 жыл бұрын
This man wasn’t refusing service of his business. Just did not want to preform” his art” on a cake because he held it sacred and the Gay couples life-style conflicted with this shop owners spiritual and or religious beliefs This gentleman has just as much right to his faith and beliefs, Just as much as the Gay couple have the right to live there life. Forcing someone to except anything they don’t won’t to by suing, is redundant and counter productive. So he’s force to paint the CAKE. Big Deal. He still feels the same, just forced to do something against his will against something he holds dear! Where have I heard that before🤔.....Oh yeah that’s it, WWll NAZI GERMANY!!. You’ll do what we ask or we will sue and destroy ur life by making you. No thanks, just get someone else to make and design or paint the cake 🍰.
@slayerette86m6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's called discrimination. Enough with the nice sounding argument. Call it what it is.
@ieatbreadsticksow72266 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but did you just compare this to World War II?
@savedbygodsgrace.90586 жыл бұрын
slayerette86m then the gay couple are discriminating against a man's beliefs. 2 different views don't make it right if both parties are in effect committing the same offensive output against each individual belief. God will not be mocked.
@visionsofxtacy57716 жыл бұрын
Their*
@gigischuster30787 жыл бұрын
God is with Jack, he has us Christians that follow the bibles truth, and we pray for you and believe in him. That couple didn't care about oppressing others that don't support their view, but they feel their rights should be accepted shame on these mean and self centered attention seekers. I support the right of freedom of expression, and feel awful for this family and Jack. The couple are bullies and violating his rights, because they felt entitled, David and Charlie are evil and mean manipulatative bigits, self centered bigits who've hurt this family deeply, without any care and no remorse, that couple wanted to destroy a business with no tolerance for freedoms of others rights. I SUPPORT JACK JUSTICE FOR JACK.
@vreedlak72687 жыл бұрын
For fuck's sake. The gay couple reported a violation of the law to Colorado's authorities. The baker can't use his religious beliefs to cause his corporation to violate the law. The law governs commercial conduct - not expression. How were the gay couple to know that this baker wouldn't find a logical solution to his "dilemma" - instead of appealing loss after loss - all the way to the US Supreme Court. That's the baker's decision. It's the baker's decision to have gone on a media blitz about this case - which is going to tank his business. If he objects to using his OWN hands to create the cake, he could've easily just assigned the task to employees, 6 of whom he fired when he elected to remove wedding cakes from his corporation's menu. He admitted in his affidavit that he most certainly did not design and create all of his corporation's wedding cakes.
@ME-vr1qi7 жыл бұрын
I honestly didn’t think the world could get any crazier. If someone does not want ur business because it clashes with their religious or personal beliefs. Find another store. Why sue and destroy lives. This does not serve the LGBTQI Community. It just makes the couple involved look malicious. 🙄
@timauteri38187 жыл бұрын
Glen Hutton because you don't get to take advantage of the infrastructure that everyone pays into, to operate your business, then deny service to gay people. What makes a black person black=science, what makes a woman a woman=science, what makes a gay person gay=science. Faith is not equitable to science. Diversity is a great thing in the world including religious diversity, but stop pretending religion and science are the same thing!
@timauteri38187 жыл бұрын
bochap21 so how is it right for gay people to be denied service that would not be ok to deny a black person, a woman when gay people also pay into the infrastructure that allows that business to operate. If you accept basic scientific premises, difference in brain patterns of gay people, pituitary gland differences, homosexuality exists amongst most animal species, how is being gay not equitable to being black or a woman, unless simply you are a bigot
@ME-vr1qi7 жыл бұрын
Tim Auteri. I’m gay, dip-shit. Not a bigot. If someone didn’t want my business FUCK-IT. I would go else where. This bending everyone’s fingers back, because “ I’m Gay”, and “How dare U! Give me a break! The Evolution of the Gay migration has come along way and we still have a way too go, but suing people for refusing to design a cake is just stupid!! 🧚♂️
@timauteri38187 жыл бұрын
Glen Hutton what are you missing, besides critical thinking. This is not just about a cake. What if a Dr doesn't want to serve them? We all pay for roads, sewage, etc. Some of which allows their business to operate, the business serving us is a return of our investment. I did not call you a bigot I said either you buy into the science and believe gay is not a choice, it is how you are meant to be, or you are a bigot. If you buy into the science then you have to believe we deserve equal service.
@ME-vr1qi7 жыл бұрын
Tim Auteri. I agree we deserve equal service. But I think if not served, why sue? I just feel it’s gotten ridiculous. (Critically thinking),there are other cake shops other options, rather than suing. Sometimes the Push gets ridiculous. It’s just my opinion. We are not going to debate this forever Tim. I just was thinking , rather than getting caught up in suing, and counter suing. And all that goes along with this. Instead of concentrating on the wedding 🎩. Find another Cake Shop. Just my thought. (For this situation). I get the discrimination, I get feeling of being disenfranchised. I have lived this shit for 50 years. But it’s a little man with a family and a cake shop. I just feel choose ya battles. And this seems silly to me. That’s all. 🌺
@alyfferalves5934 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for him but I’m tierd of people using religious beliefs as a pass for discrimination, in his case he is obviously a good person and I don’t think he’s a bigot or deserves death threats and hate but in terms of a business and pr, this kind of discrimination clearly would lead to backlash. If you don’t like/“agree” with people for whatever reason, race,gender,sexuality etc then go ahead but when others look down on your for acting against them then don’t be all too shocked.
@malkindirecttube17317 жыл бұрын
The music is a nice creative touch
@JustBreatheOkay7 жыл бұрын
Jack you are man of God and you are doing the right thing, you are serving our lord Jesus. When you suffer for Christ, you always going to be rewarded by Lord. God bless you 🙏
@katherinemakinney72787 жыл бұрын
This man should be free to serve who he wants to serve. That is fundamental freedom.
@Christopher-pf8qt7 жыл бұрын
It's a public space. What if someone opened a bakery and before selling to you asked if you were a Christian. When you said yes, he refused you. Is that his right? His freedom?
@katherinemakinney72787 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. It is a private enterprise. Have you ever seen a sign "service may be refused to anyone?" As long as there are other bakeries that will serve me, why do I care to FORCE someone to submit to ME and SERVE ME DAMMIT. It's tyranny. And I for one, would prefer to give the right to someone to refuse me for my religion instead of forcing them to do something against their beliefs. BTW, you do know what they do in restaurants when customers are a-holes? Is that what you want?
@jerrykrause44587 жыл бұрын
+Katherine Makinney - People can say the most idiotic things in their responses, as you have discovered. In any event, you are encouraged to go to facebook.com/researchmarriage/, to the article "Just Days Away: Oral Arguments in the Colorado Baker's Case" for starters. I say for starters because if you send a friend event and are accepted in their Closed Group (trolls are filtered out before even entering) there is so, so much more said. Thank you.
@johnmark1507 жыл бұрын
So should he be free to refuse to serve women who have had an abortion? What about adulterers? Because surely they would also go against his religious beliefs. So all his customers should be required to pass a morality test before he served them. How ridiculous. Freedom of speech is not a freedom to discriminate.
@katherinemakinney72787 жыл бұрын
Yes, if there are a multitude of other choices, what difference does it make? It doesn't hurt anyone but your feelings. Freedom of expression is fundamental and it trumps your feelings. What if it hurts your feelings that a woman won't have sex with you? Do you see where this goes? Grow up.
@medicceja73667 жыл бұрын
Your a Great man Jack. Never stand down. God Bless.
@kevinrodrigues15826 жыл бұрын
the gay men wanted to make him commit sacrilege... that is what they wanted! they did not want a wedding cake. the gay men wanted to make Jack commit sacrilege and in doing so attack Christ and all of us who believe! FAITH! TRUTH! BELIEVE!
@luvdomus6 жыл бұрын
Selling a cake to gay people is not committing 'sacrilege" but refusing to do so is discrimination, prejudice and bigotry.
@kevinrodrigues15826 жыл бұрын
It is sacrilege to force someone to go against his or her religious beliefs.. It is not bigotry nor is it discrimination and prejudice. Maybe a christian couple should go into a gay bakery and order a wedding cake with this on the cake! "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."
@luvdomus6 жыл бұрын
People have a wide variety of religious beliefs and some use their beliefs as an excuse to dislike certain groups. that does not give them the right to discrimination in business dealings. Christians in business have been serving gay people for generations, it only became a big deal in recent years when the Religious Right decided to make a 'statement' with wedding cakes and urged their followers to deny service to gays. This is not a religious principle it is a petty act of ideological spite. If you want to be truly Christians, treat everyone fairly in business and private life.
@kevinrodrigues15826 жыл бұрын
again it is NOT discrimination and the gay couple chose to go to the christian baker to make him commit sacrilege! There is not two ways about it! They thought it would be a "cake walk" and that the court with agree with them and they would stop this man from expressing his religious beliefs thereby forcing him to commit sacrilege. I will bet they would have celebrated and laughed at all christians if the court agreed with them as they have in the past! This is why people are turning on gays. In order to have religious beliefs in a rights oriented society like America you must be free to practice your religion. Forcing someone to make a cake is ridiculous! I will not entertain your view anymore. WE DISAGREE ON THIS. THAT IS ALL!
@luvdomus6 жыл бұрын
How were the gay couple supposed to know that the bakery was run by an anti-gay baker? Did he have a sign outside that said "NO GAYS"-? Don't lie and claim that the couple "targeted" him, all they did was order a cake from a baker just like any other customer would.
@zenitadesilva47695 жыл бұрын
Jack's reward is in heaven...everything else is so temprerory ..god bless you jack!!
@killaplays78037 жыл бұрын
Jack. And family. God bless you. I feel your heart and honesty. We need more people like you... Blessings
@blueberryfan70446 жыл бұрын
'Blessings' that should go to hell....
@zzzroxyzzz7 жыл бұрын
My one question would be will he make a cake for couples being remarried after being divorced? I'd guess he would and has. I understand standing behind your religious beliefs but you need to stick to them if your going to use that as your foundation of decision making.
@chocolatemotoko6 жыл бұрын
I'm just here to say that HE WON!
@Ir0nMa1d3n6 жыл бұрын
He represents the way those guys will probably ever have a child. Jack is a procreator. I'm all for his decision. Those guys don't love humanity by the way they are making a huge deal about it. Victims? Try being beat to submission and not getting justice for it. Yeah, me. You don't see me on news. I have balls and believe in forgiveness. I feel terrible for Jack and his loving family. Just because he turned down a customer, doesn't mean he loves you less. He just doesn't agree or is willing to advertise it. He has the right. May God bless you Jack, for all eternity.
@marcogaming20997 жыл бұрын
The gay couple did it on purpose just to spite Christianity. there is a purpose for everything. Right now, I'm looking at how I've been. How I've been complacent. How I went with the ways of the world because to fight for your beliefs isn't popular now. Thank you Sir Jack Philips.
@danieldavis70857 жыл бұрын
tlinc YOU should check your Facts, before you post stupidity again. The baker stated he didn't know they were Gay and the couple, stated they didn't know he was Christian
@marcogaming20997 жыл бұрын
Oh please have pity on yourself. Listen to what you're saying or re-read what you posted. He was willing to bake the cake for anyone L, G, B, T, X, Y, Z...anyone not just for the wedding of same sex people which is against his beliefs.. you check your facts..
@marcogaming20997 жыл бұрын
and you name calling just shows what kind of person you are... exactly what you called me=)
@danieldavis70857 жыл бұрын
tinc Your Comments Prove what you are, You don't need any help showing your stupidity
@marcogaming20997 жыл бұрын
Why bother? you're so desperate to tell me what you should be telling yourself. Is there no other bakery in the area? To fight for your OWN rights is now illegal? Your right ends where my right begins brother. Gay people have a right to go wed but they cannot enforce any private citizen to join them and forget their own rights, like you cannot enforce your thoughts to me. I have so much pity for you now, I could cry. And by the way, you also have the right to post your own thoughts and not bother me here. See what you are doing? You are doing the same exact thing these gay dudes did to the baker who was minding his own business. Do your business somewhere else...thank you=)
@LeoWhalen19336 жыл бұрын
Im an atheist and I support this cause 100%. Nobody should be forced to do anything in this country.