NYPD test launches electric cars

[@seandoyle5083]

Electric actually makes a lot of sense for the police considering how often police cars are left in idle

[@tuckerstafford8266]

Wouldn’t be bad for garbage trucks either if the didn’t need to run a compactor

[@REDFURR]

​@@tuckerstafford8266 Miami has some EV mack trucks already.

[@shm-62u30]

Except when the car is on 20 hours a day and doesn't have hours to recharge

[@themidnighttavern6784]

​@@shm-62u30 Of those 20 hours, maybe 5 are spent driving. The rest are spent idling on the side of the road, or parked while cops are outside of them. Fast chargers that can go from 0-80% charge in about 10-20 minutes are also a thing, and being installed in places like restaurants. So cops can charge while eating lunch.

[@BlueOvals24]

@@themidnighttavern6784 Idling still takes power, they've got all kinds of equipment running in them, and I'm sure many cops use their A/C. Diesel makes the most sense for police.

[@alexanderkim4889]

As someone not from NYC, the NYPD's commissioner talks EXACTLY how I would imagine him to.

[@azurtez75]

I agree

[@rugsdelite]

As born and bred Queens boy...he make me miss NYC. That dude is SO NYC.

[@v1nigra3]

Lmao I didn’t realize it was NY all this time till I heard him talk and I’m like… *Oh New York Police Department*

[@thecringeinspector5636]

As a European, I can confirm.

[@thechannelflow7840]

He resigned due to corruption

[@azureactivedirectory]

Police cars (especially in the city) spend so much time idling it makes sense to switch to electric. For highway patrols maybe not so much

[@davidkee2363]

They are faster than gasoline cars, so I would say they're perfect for highway patrol too. Also, there are lots of electric out there and they need cars that can keep up with.

[@Sprchgjeep]

@@davidkee2363 plenty that keep up. At higher speeds EV’s drop,performance significantly.

[@kcchiefsproductions8687]

​@MooreFamilyVlogs I heard it had some to do with the tork. But idk

[@chinookh4713]

Ok tell me what happens when the car runs out of charge? Next shift got to go back and wait for it to charge

[@chinookh4713]

@@davidkee2363 NYPD has strict no chase policy

[@SecretCollage]

The Tesla police car issue just sounds like "I forgot to pump gas" so it doesn't really count as a data point.

[@EinfachFredhaftGaming]

Fr and he is allowed to work as a cop, lol

[@louisbarningham]

Ford is better as their is more support, also more better build cars

[@cory8837]

​@@louisbarninghamwrong

[@rockguitardude]

@@louisbarningham Ford EV's are a distant 2nd behind Tesla.

[@coolbluereview]

Exactly!! Everyone that asks me the question of whether I’m scared or not if I’ll run out of juice in traffic and I always repeat the same question back! EVs have the same mileage capacity today, atleast the teslas do.

[@najthesavior4286]

Nypd doesn't even do that many police chases.

[@10RRASK]

Don’t NYPD bicycle cops probably do more miles than those in cruisers?

[@jeepcam84]

U can test them out

[@najthesavior4286]

@Jeep Cam Don't need to. The highway patrol are really the only ones who would put in that type of work. Not the work on the beat, stay stationary at 1 spot for a couple hrs, and move on PO.

[@BootyWarrior80892]

@@10RRASK 😂😂😂

[@CDN_Store]

Them bring up the reduced space is down to it being a smaller car than other patrol cars such as the Explorer rather than it being an EV.

[@BLWard-ht3qw]

I'm sure they'll need to make some adapting adjustments while addressing unforeseen problems, but I think it'll be interesting to see how it performs and holds up with use in NY.

[@markplott4820]

FORD vehicles in General are UNRELIABLE and require TOO much Maintenance . they will find out that Muck-e , also requires too much Maintenance. Tesla model 3/Y com with 60% less maintenance, than any ICE car. TESLA vehicles last longer also , they are made like Commerical vehicles.

[@RzVids]

Such as?

[@goodboi1232]

Me in a discussion post:

[@imrytebeehyneu]

@@markplott4820 I hope you're talking about the Crown Vic...

[@Sprchgjeep]

It will perform poorly and will not hold up.

[@moritzrossbroich]

As a german LEO I can say that in bigger cities EVs make a lot of sense. The medium to low speed that is driven in cities and the amount of time you often just stand around in your car greatly qualifies EVs for use in cities. Range is also not really a problem and with newer cras that are able to charge upwards of 75% in less than twenty minutes it's ideal for charging at the station when you've got some paper work to do. We already use EVs in some german cities and the results are promising...

[@bigt7706]

Agreed!

[@pythons206]

​​@@bigt7706also charging is a lot cheaper then gas witch saves taxpayers money and allows the department to use that money for other things

[@BBBUrMom]

Cop: "I won't tell if you don't tell." Me: That's their slogan 😂

[@cortlandsahlt8982]

😭I’m glad someone was thinking the same

[@Drakosayso]

That cop is itialian and sounded so a line from sopranos

[@Anthony3k]

My question is why isn’t there any barriers to separate the front & the back like the normal ones unless they dont use these to arrest people

[@25yrsotj]

The policy of the NYPD when transporting a prisoner is that the perp sits behind the recorder ( front passenger ) and thats always been the policy, when the barriers were introduced that stayed in effect, and the arresting or escorting officer would sit behind the operator. Only time you really need a barrier is if the perp is combative.

[@nancypelosi2627]

​@@25yrsotj So you call the shop to build the barrier when the perp becomes combative?

[@yelruta]

​@@nancypelosi2627 no you call for a van with a cell built into the back

[@nancypelosi2627]

@@yelruta That sounds efficient

[@yelruta]

@@nancypelosi2627 the NYPD is anything but efficient

[@89five3five]

The only way to see if a technology is ready is to test it in real time. I used to help my company deploy new hardware and software. I know what works in the lab does not work in the street. I’ve had to burst many a developer’s bubbles to let them know fancy stuff they spent months on doesn’t work. So kudos to the NYPD for field testing this. I hope Ford is smart enough to partner with them to get real time data which will help the consumer market.

[@Bell_plejdo568p]

How is something works in lab shouldn’t it work in real life, can u explain why it means

[@larrysernyk6154]

There's lots of room in the back seat which can fold down. Mach E is like an EV SUV. We have one. Lots of room for 5 passengers and cargo or 2 passengers with lots of cargo.

[@PersonaN007Grata]

Somehow I feel like law enforcement doesn’t really care about the comfort of rear seat passengers. 😂

[@warhammerfaction]

Should be a model Y

[@pavito9997]

not true, i own one can barely fit 5 18year old + in and if you want to go on holiday with 5 people there is barely enough room, the front trunk isnt big enough and the trunk only carries about 9 cases of wine

[@bitemyshinnymetalass1569]

True if the police are going to use a ev pursuit vehicle. Might as well be a Ford Mach E or Tesla model 3

[@ljmorris6496]

For police work and suspects, not suburban mom work. Imagine getting a once in a while struggling teen in there..

[@christianjeanbaptiste1994]

It’s crazy how most of them are the GT model too, used to work at the dealership that they ordered a lot from. It was wild too see them lined up

[@ejicon3099]

For those wondering. Ford Mach-E's base price is $42,995. The Ford Police Responder Hybrids Original MSRP is $30,145. The overall savings might be trivial but lets go!

[@KnightRider1983]

They no longer make a Ford Police Responder Hybrid, which was the Fusion variant. They make a Police Interceptor Utility Hybrid, an Explorer variant.

[@JacktheSmack]

Hybrids can require more maintenance than ICEs and EVs due to being more complex than either. EVs require far less maintenance so that means less total cars needed for the force since less will be in the shop, and more reliable so the savings are across the board when it comes to EVs.

[@ejicon3099]

@@JacktheSmack Absolutely not true. All electric vehicle's initial cost outweigh everything you just mentioned.

[@JacktheSmack]

@@ejicon3099 You will go through 2 or 3 ICE vehicles before you need to replace an EV.

[@errant3]

@@JacktheSmack what? an ev is more delicate with more complicated parts. if the car is ok you can just replace the engine in ice

[@musicalhistory4392]

Considering how such a small percentage of the population drives and presumably they could retrofit EV chargers at every city corner (that has a station at least) NYC is probably the best city to test something like this out.

[@magallon643]

Yeah They could Probably make a City Hall Charging Network Across the USA,imagine.

[@nlpnt]

Ford is probably supplying these at a DEEP discount to use as rolling test beds to learn what changes are needed for a proper Police Interceptor version of the Mach-E, with production to start as soon as capacity becomes available.

[@xplayman]

Not to mention that the NYPD buys everything in bulk as the largest police force in the world.

[@AugustBanks]

why would they have to do that? They are already saving police departments tens of thousands of dollars in fuel and maintenance even after correcting for original cost. Their product is in extremely high consumer demand, and their only competition in the space is Tesla, who is not going to mod their cars for a police department.

[@whatusernameis5295]

​@@AugustBanks actually Tesla has worked with a police department to mod one of their vehicles. it doesn't actually take much. by no means are they going to make a special version but I doubt Ford will do that either

[@ameritoast5174]

Doubt it about the mach e. The mach e being used right now is probably liek you said jsut a test bed of the technology for the police force to get an understanding of how they would need to run them and get used to using an ev. If anything they would probably use a new electric vehicle like the ford explorer as the new police interceptor. Cheaper than a mach e and is big enough for their needs.

[@Chris-st9mm]

They actually look pretty cool. Always loved the look of the Mach E

[@colechapman6976]

It makes sense in NYC when they do not have to travel long distances before charging back up

[@timeforbeans]

EV's are the future....I have an EV, Nissan Leaf....I hope the US Gov does MORE...to help average American to afford an EV. Tax Credits are stupid for EV'S Why not give us a EV down Payment

[@bronxtaskforce01]

The worst thing they did was buy a Ford Mach-E electric vehicle. Some of the issues that Mach-E owners have encountered include battery cell failures, charging system and electrical problems, and frozen display screens. Mach-E models have even become immobile at times. The electric vehicle lost its Consumer Reports recommendation because of its many reliability issues

[@PyroShields]

What do you expect from a Ford.

[@RayNLA]

So it really is a Ford!

[@rajkumarbharathi3139]

They should wait for toyota or Honda to make a eV

[@whatusernameis5295]

​@@rajkumarbharathi3139 did you seriously just suggest Toyota? Toyota does NOT want to make an EV for some dumb reason

[@rajkumarbharathi3139]

@@whatusernameis5295 they made bz eV. But still made in Japan only. They should start building it everywhere to reduce import tax

[@turbo_marc]

0:20 sure it might reduce the 100 million spent on fuel each year but what about that electricity bill?

[@dwnrange7812]

…’as long as they’re plugged in at night’. ?? Patrol cars don’t have a night off, they’re passed from one shift to another.

[@slapshotjack9806]

They’ll probably have a car for each officer in the unit or they’ll just swap them out at the end of each shift

[@KMT15]

@@slapshotjack9806sounds just as expensive.

[@chelsea7xhf]

Since police idle a lot, I am sure they can find 4 hours in their shift to plug in

[@imrytebeehyneu]

Speaking of 4 hours: does the Mach-E have fast -charging plugs?

[@Simon-dm8zv]

@@imrytebeehyneu of course

[@Junior-lh6zy]

Ok I will endorse this ❤ The savings of gas when idling will be HUGE for sure

[@chinookh4713]

This dumb, ok NYPD not the most liked in NYC second people start realizing this cars when ignited cause huge issues will become targets secondly Its not going to be used as a “cop” car it’s a publicity stunt used for senior officials to travel around thirdly charging it takes longer then gas they can’t idle cause they run out and the next shift will have to wait for the car to charge technology and the Infanstruture isn’t their yet

[@blue06lt]

How many miles does an officer usually drive in a shift? EVs shine driving in stop and go traffic, they actually do worse on the highway. They also need less maintenance than gas powered cars. I wonder how they will hold up for durability because patrol cars tend to get the snot beaten out of them.

[@AugustBanks]

and it takes like 15 minutes to added 75 miles of range. Does the officer not take a lunch break?

[@ProXcaliber]

@@AugustBanks Actually, more than that if they are using DC fast chargers.

[@bandombeviews6035]

They should be pretty durable, they’re just fords at the end of the day.

[@peppapigthekiller7539]

It’s NYC. They probably drive 12 miles in a total of 2 hours.

[@henrypp8]

Weren’t they advising people in the summer to slow down on using their A/Cs? lol imagine the entire fleet down because they can’t charge 🥴

[@NithinJune]

but this is in comparison to the gasoline which is just petter

[@williamerazo3921]

That was in California

[@AugustBanks]

They just asked people to use less power during peak time including not charging EVs during peak time. Just like they have been doing for air conditioners for 50 years.

[@BenjaminOienMB]

@@AugustBanks Exactly. They will charge at night when grid usage is very low.

[@UlexiteTVStoneLexite]

You charge them at night, not a problem at all

[@Emjackson89]

I'm a police officer and trying to keep an electric car charged for 3 shifts is near impossible. Plus pursuits will always be an issue. I don't see how emergency service vehicles can overcome electrification

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Charge during shift changes, it will rarely if ever be near zero charge. Pursuit also won't matter, it isn't like gas cars are always 100% full tank. Low on gas and that car has to drop out, no matter what the "fuel".

[@portiazwicker3986]

Are you pursuing for 100s of miles? Maybe you are, I don't know. Couldn't you also run out of gas pursuing?

[@spicinq3439]

@david McCarthy police cruisers usually top off when they are around 1/2 full so that they always have gas in them

[@GaijinDT]

@@davidmccarthy6061 Charging takes hours even if you only want a 50%, they would need 3 cars for 3 shifs, it's completely inefficient and a waste of resources

[@ProXcaliber]

@@GaijinDT Charging with DC fast chargers takes the battery from 10% to 80% in less than 30 minutes. I am more than certain they can fit a 30-minute charge into their schedules and all use the same vehicle. The majority of their time is spent idling, either way.

[@phillipcampbell7885]

Better come out with a bigger grid system buddy

[@christhomas9842]

Don’t forget normal police cars are used two shifts in a 24 hour period. Now you’ve restricted yourself to one car per day while it charges overnight

[@rgray3173]

Dispatcher to One Adam 12: "Respond to 4th and Vine. Robbery in progress." One Adam 12 to dispatcher: " Sorry but we are 10-7. Unit is on charge."

[@chang-kp9sp]

One issue is range since this Mustang Mach E range is shorter than Model Y . Also these EV police car shouldn't use for pursuing suspects which means it need back up of other police cars. They are only for patrols until the range of EV improves magically.

[@mrallelectriccarlunacy]

How far do you think police cars drive in a day in a city like NYC? Traffic is backed up. That and range becomes significantly better (not that it was bad in the first place) when you’re not at highway speeds.

[@siamimam2109]

I drive for uber usually 10-12hrs/day and usually average 200-250 miles. I don’t think patrol cars will be far off. Most of the battery will be used up powering the AC, Electronics, Lights etc. That problem can be solved with an AUXILIARY Battery 🔋

[@pavito9997]

my mache says it can do 280+ but in reality it barely does 200.

[@AugustBanks]

The Mach E can add 120 miles of range over a 30 minute lunch break.

[@Sprchgjeep]

Model Y range is WAY overstated. Tesla range is based on EPA estimates and is way off. Rented a Model X and hit one charger showing range at 220 miles but stopped with 0 range about 2 miles short of the 120 mile segment.

[@terribrad24]

why on earth did they call that thing "Mustang"???

[@DavidVanHelden1]

It looks like they pick the department's pretty boy to do the test drive...

[@junyaiwase]

Is that a problem? 😅

[@CubaRican908]

I do believe the NYPD should use the rivian vans that Amazon uses for deliveries and incorporate those into their precincts as well..... Maybe Tesla Model 3's might do better then the Mustang Mach e but either way I think using EVs for the city will work out it's just I believe they should use ice vehicles for maybe the surrounding highways for backup in case they have to get into a long chase that way they don't have to worry about running out of battery power like what happened in some of the California car chases but within the city with stop-and-go traffic it should work out just fine

[@paulk2735]

They only use Ford, Chevy, or Chevorlet. supposed to be "Patriotic"

[@nahnahson]

​@@paulk2735 you do realize Tesla and rivian are American companies right? Built in the USA

[@nahnahson]

They should look into the rivian SUV, it's big and very capable.

[@masonbeaver]

They already get good deals on the cars they buy from ford/chevy. I barely doubt that they would consider using any different car manufacturer than those.

[@paulk2735]

@@nahnahson I completely understand what you are saying, my point is just that the government typically sticks with Ford and Chevy for their motor needs

[@spaceship4494]

Crime is surging in nyc but at least they have electric cars am I right? Climate cult

[@marquisethomas5611]

Them hellcats in trouble now

[@Ovicron]

Tired of getting scared of civilian ford taurus and fusion's, and thinking they are unmarked NY🐷D.

[@supremisis.]

😂

[@dbflexer7320]

Funny you mention that. Lately I've seen US Marshals in force and they'll drive anything. Mostly seized vehicles so they'll roll up on you in a Lincoln Continental and they don't play. Don't know what's up but they've been out a lot lately. Picking up the slack??? 🤔

[@EnjoyFirefighting]

of course it makes sense, especially in the city ... there are electric cars for private use, taxi, vans, delivery trucks, buses, why shouldn't there be electric fire trucks, ambulances and police cars?

[@jamesstpatrick8493]

Just watch when winter comes and battery life goes to 60%

[@williamerazo3921]

Ok. Cop cars are Designated to their precinct so it wont matter

[@karlstrasen4758]

Surprised that air quality wasn't mentioned as another benefit of these vehicles being used in big cities.

[@mugensamurai]

Demolition Man irl?

[@PistonAvatarGuy]

Absolutely where we're headed.

[@thegirthquake8574]

What's the point? The car is the slowest form of transportation in NYC-- just reeks of "We're wasting tax dollars!"

[@markplott4820]

these Muck-e police cars are EZ to Fully Charge overnight using LEVEL 2 charger, and for top ups can Charge while on Lunch break using DC fast chargers.

[@slapshotjack9806]

Say whatever you want it’s still a mustang

[@Spekticon]

@@slapshotjack9806 no its not

[@slapshotjack9806]

@@Spekticon if it got a mustang badge on it it’s a mustang

[@cacodemon_doom]

@@slapshotjack9806 No it isn't.

[@cacodemon_doom]

@@slapshotjack9806 So if I put a Bugatti badge on a Corolla, then it's a Bugatti?

[@noahjenkins8408]

For city patrol may work but for highway patrol maybe not.

[@buddyels]

I really thought I was about to watch them test the launch control…

[@toptiergaming6900]

*shoots battery once* *Car battery explodes or catches fire*

[@Jimmyxsx]

The mach e is easily the worst vehicle they could have chosen, Tesla is way ahead in terms of battery tech, range, power and features.

[@markplott4820]

Police Departments REQUIRED to buy from LEGACY , unless SMALL Department.

[@comments.cuestionsandconcerns]

agree but i don't think they can by law.

[@pavito9997]

true

[@Jimmyxsx]

@@comments.cuestionsandconcerns why not? The law only requires the car to be from an American company, tesla is an American company.

[@comments.cuestionsandconcerns]

@@Jimmyxsx i believe it has to be one of the big 3 in america.

[@chilogutierrez8760]

Maybe they should focus on actually arresting criminals

[@alsjogren7890]

Hermosillo Sonora already did this with Chinese electric patrol cars (JAC). They started with 70 a year ago. They reduced the response time in the city to a maximum of 5 minutes. I believe that Hermosillo has 220 now.

[@tdgdbs1]

You are a fool to believe that response time in Mexico, they will most likely show up when the amber is put out. Permanent resident here for decades and never seen incompetent/corrupt cops.

[@lianalonge1984]

The Fremont, CA case could’ve happened with a combustible engine vehicle if they forgot to gas up. 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@magicmagus1459]

Different types of cars still NOT gonna change criminal behaviour that city refuses to arrest or prosecute.

[@NazriB]

Lies again? Department Of Justice Ezlink Card

[@drjekelmrhyde]

The only pro I can see about these cars, is that's it's easier to sneak up on criminals.

[@ryanb8719]

@@drjekelmrhyde what’s the point if they’re just gonna release them without bail/on their own recognizance shortly after they get caught? And just have their crimes downgraded or dropped altogether so they’re just back out there.

[@junyaiwase]

@@drjekelmrhyde😂

[@dbflexer7320]

There you go. 👍

[@Fernication]

The ROI on EVs for police departments is actually huge. Maintenance and fuel costs are huge cost drivers.

[@Rsmith420]

Don’t blame the car on the fact they forgot to charge the car. If you forget to fill up a gas tank, it’s the same thing.

[@vblic]

Human factor. Always screws things up.

[@theminimagic7255]

yea but it takes 5 minutes to get gas and at least 2 hours to charge

[@portiazwicker3986]

@@theminimagic7255 Tell me you don't understand DC fast charging without telling me...

[@ProXcaliber]

@@theminimagic7255 It takes less than 30 minutes to go from around 10% battery to 80% and a little more to charge it higher than that. I also don't know what car you drive, but it used to take me more than 5 minutes to fill up my tank. At minimum, it would take me about 10 minutes to fill up to full and that's also if I didn't actually go inside, grab snacks, a drink, etc.

[@sturdyvw]

@@ProXcaliber if you fast charge constantly you will degrade the battery much faster and range will suffer. With as much usage these will see they will need to stick to level 2 or about 48 amps to preserve the battery. Even then it’ll lose 15% in the first year then taper losses, about 1-2%/yr after that.

[@coolbluereview]

What a waste of taxpayer money to buy any other EV than a tesla. The ford or GM EV’s are terrible quality and cost too much compared to teslas.

[@Quickfleet]

Why in the world do they have an optioned out Mach-e? Should have gone with base trim. Waste of tax payer money. It goes faster but it’s in the city of traffic so😊

[@LaJuanHughes]

That bought Tesla also

[@Quickfleet]

@@LaJuanHughes probably used the money they garnered from “illegal parking” gotta love government!

[@neojoda2007]

And Tesla Model Y is much cheaper and better... also MADE IN THE USA... why not TESLA?

[@wantsanewvehicle]

Somewhere in PA the other day I saw a Rivian truck that had something to do with the police department I believe..we were both driving opposite directions, so I can't be 100% sure but yeah.

[@CRAPO2011]

Waste of resources a mach e probably costs as much as 2 of the older fusion hybrids.

[@atarijones5056]

I deliver 40 loads of oil to power plants to get electricity fir these vehicles and I don't hear anyone talk about that they keep that part secret and people think electricity is created from magic!!! 😂😅

[@whatusernameis5295]

whatever you think. it's still more efficient then all the idling engines it's replacing

[@Lucas-gu7sj]

no one thinks that, but per miles per kWh for EV is way more efficient than ICE. Thats what MPGe is based on, kWh equivalent of a gallon of gas. Not to mention idling.

[@dbflexer7320]

Exactly. So what there's no engine idle. Churn up those power plants. it's all slight of hand bullcrap. Don't forget the pollution created to make the batteries. Where do those come from? Mostly China. The biggest polluter. EV reliability? Poor and very expensive.

[@JD-tg5ib]

Why do they need cars when they aren't allowed to pursue criminals or make arrests?

[@OGmaster_Yi]

Because they love to waste taxpayer dollars on useless things

[@walterkestel8252]

I was at the 2023 auto show in NY.

[@Cam1an]

man that car looks sick! hopefully someone makes a grand theft auto 5 mod for this car.

[@alejandrodiaz8010]

Dearborn police in Michigan already have a Mach E rolling around for a while now.

[@Stargazzer811]

Of course, the Glass House is right there.

[@bludowski]

Bro thats sick! Mach E Mustang GT. Top of the line power!

[@Crismodin]

And while not truly important in NY, but in other states, EV police vehicles can now keep up with sport bikes.

[@markplott4820]

not when PD are deploying Microwave guns to short out Electrical systems.

[@vittubravo]

During chase it Will be limited for certain range.

[@kris1089]

This actually makes sense, literally one of the few times it makes sense

[@coolcat6303]

EV’s make sense most of the time. They’re cleaner, quieter, faster and some of them will even go over 500 miles on a single charge.

[@Tunnelsnakes]

@@coolcat6303Police cars would not want to be quieter though. Their presence need to be known when giving chase or going to an emergency, and sirens would make the car loud anyway. The instant torque might help initially, but I wonder about top speeds.

[@splenced7091]

@@Tunnelsnakes he’s talking about all scenarios, not just police.😊

[@Tunnelsnakes]

@@splenced7091 Fair enough. Ideally, the police don’t want to be chasing cars that have higher top speeds than the normal EV, and hopefully their battery compartments are isolated enough to rarely get punctured if they have to deal with crashes (police cars are often meant to be rugged at this point). The heaviness of the EVs would be an advantage though, would make for easier pit maneuvers.

[@solesurvivor3253]

If only we spent this money on our children in public schools…

[@solesurvivor3253]

@Joe Mama Well Mr. Mama, that funding that is not put in our children and communities, results in one of the concerns you just expressed.

[@LeoNation007]

What about government corruption and Inflation due to the economic recession?

[@solesurvivor3253]

@@LeoNation007 that can be another question to ask the NYPD, to figure out why would it be necessary to invest this money on these vehicles. What I am talking about is an issue that exists for generations.

[@RyanKusuma]

I wonder if you have the same energy when it comes to military spending. The military budget for 2022 was $715B. The newest budget for 2024 is $842B. We literally pulled $127B out of thin air in 2 years

[@bobjones1999]

Agreed, and in a few years, when the battery dies all New York Taxpayers will have to pay for a new set of cars because the old ones are obselete.

[@v_spw4355]

Aint no way gonna replace our dodges, Explorers, crown vics, Tahos, suburbans, and tauruses!!!

[@bullbutter9699]

COMMIES

[@mistermood4164]

Literal NPC comment 😂

[@Followerofchrist2091]

Just wait till you hear that GM is designing electric transport vehicles for the military. What a joke.

[@cortlandsahlt8982]

“I won’t tell if you don’t” 😭 police motto of the year

[@markplott4820]

Dont ask, and NEVER tell.

[@xroda_]

out of all cars they using a mach e💀

[@alg003]

*when the average person can barley afford a decent car but the government can spend our hard earned money on overly priced electric cars*

[@Simon-dm8zv]

You think that ICE police cars are cheap?

[@Kiwi-rn4pp]

@@Simon-dm8zv Multiple times cheaper than an electric car

[@ProXcaliber]

@@Kiwi-rn4pp Do you not understand that you don't have to worry about maintenance on an EV? There are no more oil changes, no worrying about transmissions, etc. You literally only have to worry about occasionally changing breaks, swapping tires, and refilling the wiper fluid. Not only that, they are also WAY better for city driving and save tons of money from not having to use gasoline. I would rather my tax money goes to something like this that actually SAVES money than an expensive and wasteful ICE car.

[@Kiwi-rn4pp]

​@@ProXcaliber It doesn't save money at all because the battery goes bad and it's still ridiculously expensive to replace. Tesla charges 15k for a new Model 3 battery, for that money you can get a new ICE car. and then there's the fact that the battery degrades with use like a smartphone, so range gets worse. Whereas a 20 year old Crown vic will run like new with just basic maintenance

[@ProXcaliber]

@@Kiwi-rn4pp You are thinking on consumer levels, while this is on a fleet level. The savings on maintenance alone will easily offset the cost of battery degradation and replacement. As an example, there is a reason Amazon is investing so heavily into Rivian to give them EV delivery vans. The savings are astronomical when you are talking about hundreds or thousands of cars. This is also the reason that large electric trucks are also in high demand. These companies would not be investing in EVs so heavily if they didn't save money and increase profit margins.

[@bcar1ify]

Why not test the model Y Performance?

[@2011Savere]

All the Tesla haters. You have time to jump in now before it's too late. Get that stock now. Telsa will be at $300 a share by 2025. Mark my words.

[@phillyphil1513]

btw these Fords were just on display in Javitz recently for the New York Auto Show, and the NYPD is not the only sector getting these top trim/top power GT models, no, they also had a Mach-E done up in livery for NYDOC/Department of Corrections (still have the pics on my phone).

[@go86go]

the news lady in white had her share in the back seat of a cop car.

[@Ghanaquankel2776]

No it's not that She's the only one that seem to have a sense of humor on the panel.

[@johnnywadd3020]

lady in white concerned about BACK SEAT SPACE

[@iVitaliy1]

Good for them I approve

[@Mogadypopz]

Los angeles did the same with i3's but ended up storing and never using them.

[@pohanahawaii]

😂 I've never wanted to join law enforcement until now.

[@schandy655]

I just don’t understand why these stats like: “ NYPD spends 100M on fuel” they really think electricity doesn’t cost money and its ALLLL POSITIVE. MORE electricity = more POWER PLANTS. 🤦🏼‍♂️. But to them: More electric stuff = significantly better environment.. better, yes. Total problem solver, NO.

[@fredfrederickson]

Wait till that summer heat comes and see that range drop and then wait till winter comes and see the range drop off a cliff

[@fredfrederickson]

@Joe Mama I have no idea what that is supposed to mean

[@jefferypease3920]

How’s that gonna work in the summer when you’re running the AC when you’re running the computer will that charge last a full shift?

[@noxnyc23]

these carries more charge than your regular mach e..

[@AugustBanks]

The A/C and computer don't use that much power. This Mach E when fully charged has a 91,000 W of usable battery. The A/C uses about 1,500 W per hour on a very hot day. The computer and other equipment use 1,000 W per hour max. That is 2,500 W per hour which is 2.7% of that battery (or 7 miles of range per hour) running full blast 100%

[@YourMajesticKyng]

I'm assuming they aren't transporting arrestees in these seeing as they have no partition.

[@aaronsavage8018]

Yeah but I’m assuming they won’t fully fit one with one if it isn’t up to par.

[@YourMajesticKyng]

@@aaronsavage8018 It looks like it'd be very cramped in the back if they added a partition.

[@aaronsavage8018]

@@YourMajesticKyng I mean no more than any other police car. They’re not made for comfort. I’ve seen them with partitions as well and they don’t look odd or anything.

[@markplott4820]

chain Criminal to hood , like a Deer.

[@danieltitanx7232]

Robbers seeing electro cars:EMP OUT!

[@Lobsterman5481]

When two or more cars that need to be charged because someone forgot to charge them, the officer will be off the field, because it will take time to recharge.

[@mrallelectriccarlunacy]

Cars have downtime for oil changes too. Coolant flushes. Tire replacement. Pretty sure they have schedules figured out.

[@LuizHartkopf]

10-80% in 45 mins is not too bad if you ask me

[@julioibarra7156]

They'll still have ICE cars nearby either way. Different tools for the job

[@sharkdegrijze]

I'd say they should have an emergency battery in those just in case or even change the batteries for a longer charge

[@ProXcaliber]

My man's thinks these run on double AA's 💀💀💀

[@sharkdegrijze]

@ProCal No, they work on 3AAs 🫡

[@WangLaker]

Wow. That's cool.

[@patleung4176]

What happened to the Model 3 the 111 Precinct was testing?

[@Anthony-hc7ej]

By adding those big lights, they will be reducing range dramatically by increasing drag. Additionally, the ford cannot charge any faster than a typical stage 2, which is at least 4 hours.

[@mrallelectriccarlunacy]

It’s NYC, not LA. Drag is negligible at the road speeds NYPD operates at.

[@mrallelectriccarlunacy]

Not to mention what you said about charging is just plain wrong. Mach-E supports DC fast charging the same as any other modern car. 10-80% in 45 minutes is what I’ve read, and that’s only if they need to top up during an unusually long day.

[@Anthony-hc7ej]

Not at all. Drag applies to any speed when talking range. All EVs, outside of Tesla do not have access to level 3 charging. Tesla is slowly rolling out access, but the chargers shown here are Level 2, which is considered “fast charging” but not as fast as it needs to be to support a 45 min charge as you’ve stated. The Level 2’s have the same power as a dryer (220). Although more than than a typical plug (110), most EVs being built do not obtain a full 220 charge. The label “DC fast charging” is misleading and heavily dependent on the charge and type of battery, similarity the way we use the terms “organic” and “free range.”

[@mrallelectriccarlunacy]

@@Anthony-hc7ej Anthony-hc7ej (auto-gen bot name?), that’s another lie. DCFC using the widely-known CCS connector standard charges non-Tesla vehicles as fast as 350kW, depending on the model. Respected publications like Motortrend note that Mach-E fast charges 10-80 in either 38 minutes or 45 depending on the battery size. You’re straight up lying, trying to make it look like it’s a contested fact. Hundreds of KZbin channels post their experience with these exact cars and chargers.

[@Anthony-hc7ej]

Your missing the main point, LEVEL 2 charger (the charger itself) does not have a high enough output to charge a car in 45 min. As someone who actually owns multiple EVs, your not getting the same charge as you would a Level 3. The NYPD only owns Level 2 as shown in the video. This is the exact reason why Biden wanted Tesla to open the charging network. ElectrifyAmerica offers some Level 3 but no nearly as much as Tesla. There are a few variations of Mach-e with different batteries and charging speeds. Again, it doesn’t matter what battery you have if your not at a Level 3 or 4 charger, your not charging under an hour if your at 10%. FYI, no car is charging at 350, even teslas (most throttle back to protect the components). Current tesla’s get 250 usually except the RWD M3 that’s getting 220. The Mach e’s are getting about 140, although they do get 160 in the first couple of minutes. They are advertising 350 for future use, but again if your at a Level 2, your not getting anything close to that. ONLY Level 3’s have the ability to go up to 350. Here is a great article from a reliable source: www.kbb.com/car-advice/fastest-charging-electric-cars/ Good luck with your reading of the Ford pamphlet (No one fact checks them btw), it may make you a good salesman but wont fool someone that actually owns one.

[@railtruckdriver853]

could we please bring back the GM/Chevrolet 9C1/BC4 police package-capris/Caprice Classic/Camaro Silverado/Sierra Yukon/Tahoe

[@conceptcs]

Also possible is you plug in to charge, and it doesn't end up charging. Then you are down a vehicle the next day someone needs to use it.

[@mrallelectriccarlunacy]

Kind of like when cars don’t start or they need service. Way less prevalent with EVs, NGL. You’re grasping at straws.

[@PyroShields]

@@mrallelectriccarlunacy Of all the things this dude thought of is an electric car not charging lol.

[@markplott4820]

LEVEL 2 chargers are pretty RELIABLE 99.99% of time. DC fast chargers , other than TESLA are Unreliable.

[@Kimbrough187]

It just blows my mind. Mind you I am a mechanic by trade and work on cars every single day. THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK!! And they are WASTING MONEY. 300 miles pre day And then you need to spend hours charging. These cars are not BUILT to last.... Its just annoying...

[@carlfriedrichs2404]

I’ve been using electric vehicles since 2018. I’m currently driving a Ford F150 lightning, that vehicle may be too big for New York City streets, but the back row space is probably big enough for at least six or seven suspects if you pack them like sardines. My Tesla model Y has plenty of room for 2 to 3 suspects in the backseat and a Tesla model. S has plenty of room for that as well. I have not been in the backseat of a Ford MachE mustang so I can’t comment on the size of that. The future is electric.

[@vblic]

Charging is going to be the main issue. Everyone is bent on saving fuel.

[@heilaw7002]

They will never mention about the cost of the tires😂. Everything on the EV are good until you see the tires replacement bill. Almost all of the cops are heavy foot driver.

[@PyroShields]

Whatever they save on gas and maintenance they can buy tires.

[@infernoking7504]

@@PyroShields those suvs don't save any gas they are just a worst ford explorer

[@markplott4820]

400,000 miles on my TESLA stock tires. let that SINK in.

[@PyroShields]

@@markplott4820 Better than my corvette that gets about 20k miles

[@markplott4820]

@@PyroShields - my Tesla tires lasted over 200k miles.

[@jehehdjdjdjdjdj9772]

didn't know george santos was being interview in this clips as a cop😂

[@RobertUrsery]

All you got to do is outlast the range of the police cars now 🤣

[@mrallelectriccarlunacy]

That’s always been true and it’s always been counterbalanced by their team tactics. NYC isn’t Smokey and the Bandit. It’s Pac-Man.

[@a-aron2276]

In New York I saw patrol cars parked in regular positions all the time, those spaces that the NYPD occupy should also be equipped with wireless charging to keep them topped off.

[@PersonaN007Grata]

With the advent of electrification, heavy vehicles with more torque, wheels and tires are going to be a serious concern for heavy duty fleet use.

[@markplott4820]

NOPE , its non issue . CATTERPILLAR already has HD dump trucks that are BEV. the Wheel hubs & Tires are TALLER than a Human.

[@AugustBanks]

Mach E weights less than the Ford Explorer.