How To Make A Garden Trellis For Huge Profit

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[@MatthewPeechWoodworking]

Awesome build brother! Love the new twist! And now that the price of 2x lumber has came down... you can actually make one of those for a little over $3 in material! Margins don't lie... follow the profit margins and they will lead you to the $$$.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you, I really appreciate the support. The 2x option is a great way to do it too.

[@samsanderson7159]

$80!! Man I want to live where you do! I couldn't give those away last year for $25.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I'm sorry to hear that, maybe you could include them in some type of bundle.

[@huejanus5505]

I hear you. Around here you’d be lucky to get $20 for one. People just go to the dollar store for those cheap, little plastic ones.

[@brandonculver2403]

From what I have seen if these people make a video for a project and say they are selling. Stay away from them because all you will have is a bunch of crap that nobody is actually buying in real life.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

@@brandonculver2403 Interesting take. I just make these videos to give other ideas on what they might be able to sell. It's your choice to add them to you menu or not.

[@thequickbrownfox7289]

I am a bit surprised that local greenhouse didn't stipulate what price and shopping radius from their l9cations you would be allowed to compete.

[@russellchevalier3606]

Great simple build. This is going to be awesome to build with the grandsons for my daughter and wife’s Mother’s Day gifts.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I love the family builds. I hope you enjoy the project.

[@chrishouse5753]

Me too. Going to try to get my teens into the shop to make some of these for the garden.

[@mikeallen3545]

I like the longer center sections. It gives it a smother look.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you. I appreciate the support.

[@mishawakafire]

Thanks for the build video Andy!

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I'm glad that you enjoyed it.

[@shawnhowell156]

These are great for a variety of vines that grow in the garden. I personally like them for cucumber and squash but add a kick stand to the back for support. It makes harvesting easier and they seem to produce more. Thank you for the video.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I appreciate the tips. I will see if that's something I can add.

[@imsowright90]

I like the longer section better. Great video.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you. I appreciate the support.

[@wilburrrrr742]

I made about a dozen of these last year. About half were 6', the rest 8'. Priced them at $40 and $60 I only started to move them when I made a deal with a local plant nursery with a retail side to take them on a consignment basis. I had to drop the 6' price to $30 also. The big box store has them for a little less but theirs are only stapled together much like their fence panels. I did get some orders for custom sizes and shapes from it, though. Basically, just a lattice with more substantial edges.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I appreciate you sharing your experience.

[@tangoindiamike9189]

Could you glue and nail these with a nail gun and outdoor wood glue?

[@hiltonferguson-gj7cp]

Great video, can’t wait to make several trellis for my garden. Thanks for sharing this and the planter box. Keep making these great videos. God bless. Hilton

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you. I really appreciate the support.

[@larrystone5749]

Great job and build thx for sharing enjoyed it Keep building

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you very much.

[@greatgrandpaswoodworking]

I like both. Yours's is simplest. I like the idea of boards as spacers instead of screws. Over all both are great.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you very much. I appreciate the support.

[@angelknopp7083]

I like a mix of sizes honestly. It can service many different sizes of plants and veggies.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thanks. I appreciate the input and your support.

[@johnlagerstrom8620]

Thank you for the video. I like the longer cross pieces.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Glad you like them! I appreciate the support.

[@loristeger9381]

Wow. Awesome build. ❤️the video. Thanks!!!

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you. I appreciate the support.

[@katspeace5550]

I like the longer section. Nicely done 👍🏼👍🏼

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you very much and I appreciate all of your support.

[@michaelwillson6847]

Looking at trying these.

[@collinsganson5115]

I'm definitely building these.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

You'll have to let me know how it turns out.

[@mrmyblessednest1722]

Another great build Andy! I like both the long and the short cross pieces. I did like your use of the 7 inch spacers at the top while building too!

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you very much! I appreciate your support as always.

[@steponacracker3865]

Good vid! Great explanation! Now, I've gotta go build these!

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you very much. You'll have to let me know how the build turns out.

[@Da1CrucianMassive]

I love the build. I'm heading over to watch Matt's video. This is inspiring for sure, as I just put in a garden in my back yard.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you! Good luck with your garden.

[@patsymatsumura4539]

I like yours better, it just looks nicer 👍I am new to your channel and am happy to find you. I’m an 80 year old female woodworker ❤️

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I'm glad to have you. I appreciate all of the support. If there are any projects you would like me to cover, please let me know.

[@georgeherman7846]

Awesome video. Loved the casual chat session.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@yellowdogadventures]

Thanks Andy

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you.

[@user-oj4mb6fm9e]

I made to the end because I like it!

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I appreciate the support.

[@kevincarter9081]

Looks great. Only thing I would change is to use an 8 footer for the middle. Then you have a 2 foot spike to drive it into the ground so it stands on its own.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I like that idea. They do make 8ft pickets.

[@SaintSpire]

Thanks for the build. I looked at all my knots had one right in the middle of the board near the 2’. Had good wood on either side of it, but still didn’t hold on the outside. Def could on the inside. Learned twice today.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Learning is important.

[@deborahsmith6366]

I like both versions. I am going to make a few.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I hope you enjoy the build.

[@rolandothompson3088]

Nice thank you Andy ,really nice

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@louisscott3874]

Yours looks great with my eyes

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you very much.

[@Ron-0417]

I started building Matt's version last year. I did alter it though, as I too use a longer center board and I use the short cut off to add a forth cross board down at the bottom for added strength. I also don't use the 2 bolts to hold it together. I glue the board ends together and put 2- 3" screws in from each side. This way there is nothing sticking out on the sides. I also put a coating of glue on the bottom board ends to help prevent water from sucking up into the grain and slow rot. As far as selling them, I put them in my flea market stand, but there is no way I could get $60-$100 each for them.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I like the addition of glue, I also considered using screws. I like that they are working well for you.

[@corymichaels8670]

I definitely like the longer section better. I think it looks more symetrical/balanced. Well done, and thank you for the video.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thanks for watching! I appreciate the support.

[@dottielynch9763]

Definitely like the longer piece.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you. I appreciate the support.

[@aat3tville181]

Great build

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you.

[@kathrynnewton8721]

Really good - love it!

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thanks a lot! I really appreciate all the comments.

[@earlkale9616]

I made Mathew Peachs' trellis a while back. I thought it was a little flimsy. I like yours better. I will give it a try. Well explained for each step.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you very much. I appreciate the support.

[@owatagi]

Thanks for the video and the tip tips

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@PaulaFurlong-wd9xp]

Great affordable project! I plan to make these for my garden. Thank you! Id love a video for an easy garden arbor build.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I love that idea. my neighbor has been asking for one lately too.

[@jefferyhaws6942]

This was a really good video. I like how you demonstrated how easy it was to do and that. It was definitely very profitable depending on where you live. I don't think I would ever ship it anywhere. I would only sell locally.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you very much. I don't think they are worth it to ship anywhere.

[@paulmichal]

I like the longer cross piece in the middle.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you very much.

[@Rotirollkitchen]

Wow, Amazing work😊

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thanks!

[@jameswhitbeck7512]

Like the long center

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you.

[@D-B-Cooper]

Just a couple of suggestions from a design guy. The proportions are a little heavy. The cross members look better when curved in an arc. I made some for the wife that had sewer pipe sliced off and used as spacers/cross members. The circles you see are pleasant and let yours stand apart from other people’s. Normally those are shipped flat and the customer fans them out . Other possibilities are using bamboo, wattle (willow branches) with woven cross sections. 👍

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I appreciate the suggestions and I will give them a try.

[@1927Scavengers]

Great build. Going to get a few pickets tomorrow.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you very much, You'll have to let me know how the build turns out.

[@1927Scavengers]

Made it today. It was a PT picket. Kinda thin but it worked. Going to figure out a simple jig to build more. What’s your email to send some pictures.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

@@1927Scavengers [e-mail]

[@mohawk81371]

There is a video for a trellis from 1 cedar picket assembled with brad nails. I made a couple of them for my Wife last spring and they held up well, she is using them again this year. They were basically $3 in materials, and roughly 10 minutes to make. I think i will try some from your plan next, as they look a little more solidly built. Thanks for the video !

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I'm definitely curious how they might feel compared to each other. You'll have to let me know how the build goes. I appreciate the support.

[@lloydbannister8062]

There both cool I like them both

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I appreciate the feedback.

[@petebecker8145]

Great video. I especially liked your cost summary and your story about selling to a local greenhouse. Your personal marketing experience is usually missing from most other DIY videos. BTW, I am a big fan of Matt's. I will be watching for more of yours too.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I appreciate the support. I will be sure to include sales and my experiences with them. I look to help beginners grow and that is part of that process.

[@nomanejane5766]

I agree,also i would like to know how u wrapped this if at all so it doesnt get damaged in transit to the store

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

@@nomanejane5766 They aren't. Everything is inspected when they are put into inventory. Any damage is loss to the greenhouse and not me once it is put into stock there.

[@byfordbarnard2264]

Plan on making some. Ty

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

You'll have to let me know how they turn out.

[@workingwithwood1528]

Thanks Brotha I appreciate you

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thanks. I appreciate the support.

[@user-jl1hn5pu3u]

Very Nice!!! I will try to sell some to my local greenhouse as well.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

It's a great option and you can try to sell locally also.

[@daviddura1172]

Like what you did Open to customization Via rounded edges or pre staining pickets $$$ + $$$

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Customization will always bring in extra money. I like where your head is at.

[@jasonzwart2316]

Wow very clear and simple information what a great job and is why I’m subscribing to your channel 😊

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I appreciate the support.

[@JosephWestra]

I like yours!

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you. I appreciate the support.

[@robertrice5272]

Thank you for the video

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thanks for watching!

[@scottshawwoodworking1752]

I like your longer section.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you very much.

[@donthornton2402]

I like the longer piece

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you.

[@michaelwillson6847]

Looks great. Ive seen and watched Matt's video on these so many times. Considering doinh it this year although suspect won't get much more than £45-50($50-60) each. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

That's still some really good profit. I appreciate the support.

[@TheBirdman66]

awesome build and info thanks just subscribed because of it!

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thanks for the sub! I appreciate the support.

[@user-qx2np1jy2k]

Thx for the video,I did build Matthew’s version and I can’t keep them stocked. I do paint some of them. I get 75 for the painted ones and 60 for the natural ones. So far I’ve sold about 140 to 150 ,I lost count Lol. I think both versions are cool.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

That is some great success! Thank you so much for sharing and I appreciate the support.

[@GodsMan500]

Where do you sell them?

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

@@GodsMan500 Facebook marketplace is a good option

[@johnwilliams1353]

Man this was a great build and I like how you layed it out with the spacers at the top. I have made several but usually give them away lol. I used one picket per though per trellis. Gratitude

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I'm glad you liked it. What's your process for making them out of a single picket?

[@johnwilliams1353]

@cedarriverwoodworking they are a shade thinner about 1an1/4 wide is the only difference and I start at the bottom but I like how you did yours from the top. It's the small things... Gratitude

[@cyotedude]

Hey, Great safety advice on the use of a push block on the table saw. I would love to see you use full safety shield glasses too. The open blade, I get it, guards and shield around the blade are a "pain" and are problematic in themselves with regard to controling the wood product on the far side of the cut. I love this trellis project. For my part, im not sure I would be selling them. I would merely make some for our garden; and perhaps some for family and friends too. Thanks for the video, a great show overall.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Unfortunately I have been trying to source a full blade guard and I cant seem to find one on this old saw. I do see what you mean on the safety glasses and I have a new set coming actually. I appreciate all of your support.

[@dawn7028]

My local Home Depot sells them for $19.98. I do appreciate the video and would love to make my own. With several friends who are gardeners these would make great gifts.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I'm glad you like them.

[@gaile2241]

I like the longer section

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you very much.

[@chrishouse5753]

To keep the cost just about the same, I'd add a small metal cap where you put the bolts and weld on a piece of scrap re-bar, off cuts from a build site, to fashion a stake that could be forced into the ground just about anywhere the gardener wanted the trelis to stand.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

That is a great option for those that have access to a welder.

[@danieldelaney1312]

Good video and I am sure Mathew took it in stride

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you. He has his brag board and I wanted to share my experience in that fashion. I meant the most respect possible in making the video.

[@rusticwood121]

I'm going to add these to my inventory for my first Spring show this April. Great video.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I'm glad to help add to your ideas. I appreciate all of your support and good luck with your builds.

[@scott31312]

Unfortunately, they sell for $25 in my area but yours does look better and I appreciate your video. And you have a nice shop.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

That's still an okay profit and something you could do as an add on. I appreciate that. everything in there has been paid for by projects like this one, so I am just trying to show others how to do it too.

[@thegringobaker]

I stumbled on this video while rabbit hole jumping...and now I have to build two of these for my wife. Really good video, btw.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Those rabbit holes will get ya! Thank you very much, you'll have to let me know how the build turns out.

[@Brooke-st1kc]

I'll take two as well! Thanks! 🙃

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

@@Brooke-st1kc If you're local feel free to contact me. If not feel free to share the video with someone locally to build them 😁

[@papapsadventures6119]

I just built one yesterday for my wife's rose bush. Mine was more of a "prototype" for me too see if it would work. I used a 2x6 plain pine and ripped it to 5/8. I know it won't last as long but again it was to see if I could make it. Didn't have any bolts on hand so I just used construction grade screws.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I like how you adapted to make it with the things that you have, good job!

[@donniewakemup8729]

Damn you! Who's the Voss got me making planter boxes, which are selling like crazy by the way, and now you are gonna have me making these. Great explanation on how to do this. New subscriber here!

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Hey it's that time of the year to be pumping out the out the outdoor items. I'm glad that I could add to your menu. I appreciate the support.

[@donniewakemup8729]

@@cedarriverwoodworking , keep up the great content!

[@GodsMan500]

Where/how do you sell them?

[@Michael-xd3hs]

I did the same with the center cross piece. I made about a dozen for family and friends 2023 Christmas gifts, had rave reviews from everyone. I was also told by many that they’d pay $100 for one no question.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I love it! I appreciate you sharing what your experiences have been.

[@wilburrrrr742]

Anyone who told you that they would pay $100 for one was probably just being nice or spending daddy's trust fund money. LOL

[@Michael-xd3hs]

@@wilburrrrr742 Shows how much you know, as I've sold several for $100. If you don't have anything positive to say you should just keep the hole under your nose closed.

[@Michael-xd3hs]

I apologize, I didn't realize what a HUGE INFLUENTIAL KZbinR you are with all of 1 subscriber and 3 shitty videos (two of which are the same) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@wilburrrrr742]

@Michael-xd3hs It was closed the entire time. I type with my fingers. Sorry you got your panties in a bunch, but anyone who would pay $100 for that..... Ah , nevermind.... you'll just get mad because I'm not being "positive".

[@robertsmith3518]

If you can slap a 7.25 circle saw blade on the ts ,you can then do your rough cuts with a $5.00 blade ,not a hi dollar one . The wood from the box cribs are filthy . This saves your good blades . Nice build . Love the channel

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I appreciate the tip, and i appreciate the support.

[@conradwheeler68]

6ft trellis around Tampa from Lowe's or Home Depot average $20-25 each, with cypress/cedar a bit more. BTW, It might be easier for some to use 2x4 PT SYP (which are already 1.5x3.5) ripped into .5" width, for about $3-$4, which is about the same price as 2 PT pickets. It might also be nice to chamfer the bottom of the trellis a little to make it easier to drive into the ground

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Those are great suggestions as well. I appreciate the input.

[@rosemills2423]

My grand dad was a carpenter an he would build them for all the people around town but back then he only got thirty dollors a peice for the painted ones he woul sell about forty a month of those during garden season .he also made porch swings an Adirondack benches an chairs .he dugwells an built storm shelters a was always building barns an chicken pens an hoop houses lock boxes out of cedar .I'ma grand daughter I use to do carpenter work until I had four heartattack which has limited my work .I worked in a furniture plant building sofas an chairs an so on wish I could still do that work .now I'm lucky to build a bird house .lol.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

That's quite the series of events. I hope to have a video for you sometime that you can build.

[@bradmallery435]

Cedar pockets in my area (mid Michigan) are $4 each, but I bought them to try and sell in our store. (The White Pallet Chair. Clare Michigan.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I like cedar better than pressure treated. Thanks for sharing your business name, do you have any social media pages?

[@dammitbobby283]

It would help if you used a branding iron on the back of the trellis that identifies who manufactured the trellis and use that for advertising your own website that sells similar garden items.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

That is a great idea.

[@alexduff361]

Yours is preferred!

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I appreciate the input.

[@JaCk-bj6hs]

great video. Thanks you make it so clear. As soon as I clean off my bench I'm going to make one or two or or. Should I finish or treat them before heading out to the next craft fair?

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Good question. There is no real need to finish them at all.

[@sandman2651]

Great build vid, cedar is soooooooooooooo costly here in the uk but they do look nice

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I agree, cedar looks much better than pressure treated, but it can get expensive.

[@steveelias6824]

Very nice video. Really easy to follow. New subscriber here

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you and welcome. I appreciate the support.

[@jeffhungerford7760]

I like your videos. I kind of like the shorter middle cross pucket.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Glad you like them! I appreciate the feedback and your support.

[@andrewbalint1628]

Looks good Andy and I would say it’s a toss up whether yours or Matt peach,

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you very much.

[@CreativeCustomDesigns]

I'm in the process of making a few of these.....fence pickets in our area including tax comes to about $11.50 ea. So we won't make as much, but still worth making. We are planning on a selling price of $50.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Are you using cedar pickets? That is still a very solid profit.

[@CreativeCustomDesigns]

@@cedarriverwoodworking Yes they are cedar fence pickets. The dressed 1 x 6 are even more money.

[@brittanymackay6611]

I swear I was on the hunt for a garden trellis this weekend and my exact thought when I saw the price of how much they are now I was like I could build that s*** for cheaper so this video made me laugh I haven't finished watching it but I'm going to!

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I hope that it will be something you can build. They aren't too expensive to make.

[@intothewoods_23]

Great video, just found your channel, I'm gonna see if those will sell around here ..

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Good luck. Let me know how it goes.

[@Jari-rf9jx]

You can make center cage from that scrap wood 3 holes , 2 pegs and pencil.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

That's a great idea and a very helpful tool.

[@MrJaxparadize]

I made 6 of these when Matt made these. I still have all 6. Can’t sell them, even at 20 bux a pop. Not even online.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe they aren't that popular in your area.

[@user-vs1qy5tl5p]

Liked the way you built the trellis from the top down...I will certainly try it out. I'm Canadian and the lumber prices post Covid are stupid expensive I had to pay $10.43 Can. for a single picket/fence board. Have to charge 80.00 off the get-go just to make a buck!!!

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I appreciate the feedback and your support. Yes prices on everything have gone crazy the past couple years.

[@BethOvertonCPMmidwife]

I love this and was thinking of making a few just for personal use. How would you recommend placing them in the ground, not necessarily against a wall or fence?

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

If you cut another picket into 1-11/16" strips, you can cut those down to 12" with a point on the end to make a spike.

[@stephenknipe175]

Like this trellis better. Also I don’t need a jig. Will be watching Cedar River from now on!! Great job!!

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I really appreciate the support.

[@Redneck_Renaissance]

Great video but in Metro Atlanta and North Georgia retail on those tops out at about $35.00...which is still a good profit.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

That's a big difference, but yes that is still a pretty good profit. Thank you for your support.

[@thedoorguycharlie]

Good build. How does it stand up straight?

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Great question. They typically lean, but you could rip down another picket to the 1-11/16" to 24" with a point on the end to drive into the ground.

[@86abell]

Nice video. What part goes into the ground?

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

If you cut another piece at 1-11/16" with two 45* cuts to make a point, that could be used as a spike.

[@daynedonaldson6722]

I think they look great. Thanks is there a written plan with sizes?

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thank you! plans are found here www.etsy.com/listing/1697220019/high-profit-garden-trellis-build-plans

[@woodandwheelz]

What do you use for them to stick in the ground? Or are they for leaning up against something else?

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

You could rip down another picket in 1-11/16 strips and cut those to 24" sections as supports, but mostly i've seen them leaning against walls.

[@its4electric]

I need to my ideas on how to stick them in the ground. What actually holds them up.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

If you cut another piece at 1-11/16" with two 45* cuts to make a point, that could be used as a spike.

[@kearstynselene]

There is absolutely no one in my area that would pay more than $40 for that

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

That's what the purpose of this experiment was, to test and see what i can sell them for in my market.

[@cabman86]

Hand made ones like this in North Louisiana are hard to sell for $40.

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

Thanks for letting me know. I'll have some more projects coming out soon, maybe those might be better sellers.

[@MrGoatman07]

Like it. Didn't hear where you factored in your time. But I could have missed it

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I only based it off of material cost. If i factored in everything (materials + time)*1.2=$12.49. They really don't take a long time to make.

[@dclinks]

my lowe’s cedar fence slats are 19/32. could we use a thinner screw?

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

You should be able to use the same process.

[@iancathcart3751]

Sorry to burst your bubble but $53 profit on a $60 selling price is 88% profit. Profit is always calculated as a percentage of the selling price. Still a very good deal 👍

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

I think we are both thinking the same thing but just different. Since I'm the manufacturer I just calculate the raw goods and the I get my profit from there. Either way tha j you for the support.

[@martymartin2009]

What's the best way to mount to ground

[@cedarriverwoodworking]

You can cut another strip and add a point to the end. Then screw it to it.