CEDH Deck Types | Intro To CEDH Series

[@justingrenier1610]

I've been a cedh player for a couple years now, and I love this new content series Introducing CEDH casually is a very smart approach

[@borosman720]

Wow! Every day! Keep up the great work!

[@tajicbladeofthelegion5474]

Greetings, comrade!

[@borosman720]

@@tajicbladeofthelegion5474 Greetings, Tajic! How's protecting Ravnica been?

[@tajicbladeofthelegion5474]

@@borosman720 It got a lot harder when I lost indestructible, but ah well.

[@borosman720]

@@tajicbladeofthelegion5474 That's sad when it happens, but well, might as well still put our lives on the line for protecting Ravnica! How's Aurelia and the rest of the guild?

[@tajicbladeofthelegion5474]

@@borosman720 Aurelia's great, definitely one of the cooler folks in the multiverse. Mileva's a bit sad about not being legendary yet, but hopefully that'll come soon. She's earned the promotion, for sure.

[@BanditDil210]

I don't have a CEDH play group nor do I even have a deck to begin with. But videos like these just make me enjoy the game more without even having to play the game!

[@jordangarner87]

Been trying to get my EDH deck to CEDH level so this helps

[@thomastremusini8501]

I appreciate the Tatyova shout out. 💙💚

[@eqwhite21]

You guys are doing a fantastic job with your videos, I'm from Kansas and wanting to learn and play more on the cedh side of the game, your videos help me out.

[@bencemolnar4231]

Would love to see a video about explaining the main combos you can see in cedh, worldgorger dragon, food chain and doomsday are cards/combos i often hear about but i couldnt really find any good videos that cover the usual combos to a full extent and explains how all of them work in detail

[@joskajiri]

i love those short and nicely done new vids of yours! Well done and pls continue in that^^

[@aortega]

Absolutely loving this series.

[@dustinalsbrooks5091]

Loving this series guys keep it up, my son is starting to get it to CEDH and these are helping him jump the curve

[@ChromeDome72]

Love this video series, hope it keeps up.

[@kinya88_]

thanks for creating such contents, my fav cEDH deck is my jvp high tide

[@nicolasjarro3197]

Mano, as séries de vídeos que vocês tem feito recentemente estão excelentes. Real, parabéns pelo trabalho e eu curto de mais o canal de vocês! 👊🏽

[@devnakz]

You guys are awesome!

[@heroofcanton101]

A little follow on from your last video on card evaluation, how would you weight different effects that do similar things? You used Natures Claim as an example of a good card, because it was a destroy effect for 1 Mana. How much more weight would exile carry? How much more would you be willing to pay for that? Or making them sac rather than destroying? I guess I am asking how do you pick between similar but distinct effects assuming you arent tailoring to your meta?

[@addambarcelos]

Enjoying the content, pretty good ^^

[@romeogauthier6934]

I've been really liking these posts that you have been doing. I've found them really helpful and would like some ideas you have for my Kalia of the Vast deck.

[@artemoila1]

Amazing content!

[@darrenengland6269]

Hi, I've been gradually turning my Gitrog edh deck into a CEDH deck. But my deck seems to be in the more adaptive spectrum of decks. I use disruptive pieces like the black and green force of (despair, vigour), abrupt decay, nature's claim, beast within & fatal push. Manglehorn is also in the deck as a stax piece (although it isn't a stax deck). I use heroic intervention, automn's veil, veil of summer and sylvan safekeeper as protection (with sylvan safekeeper also doubling up as a combo piece). The deck is 48 lands and is looking to ramp and disrupt my oponants decks until I can either directly spend mana using coffers, urborg or urborg, bubbling muck (or all 3) on torment of hailfire, or resolve splendid reclamation or worldshaper (death trigger) and either or both amulet of vigour and lotus cobra. To cast torment of hailfire. I also use titania protector of argoth with sylvan safekeeper or zuran orb as a backup beatdown option and Kozilek, Butcher of Truth to either cast as a massive threat and less counterable card draw, to protect the graveyard from being exiled or overmilling through Gitrog and Underrealm Lich combo or discarded to either Noose Constrictor or Key to the City, or placed there instantly using entomb. I use crucible of worlds, ramunap excavator, life from the loam and sometimes eternal witness to get specific lands out of my graveyard and use boseiju who shelters all and cavern of souls to protect some of the spells I cast depending on timing and availability. I use crop rotation, Elvish Reclaimer, expedition map and Nylea's Intervention (can sweep flyers too) to search for specific lands. I also use Glacial Chasm to buy time to win. I use worldly tutor, demonic tutor, vampiric tutor and green suns zenith to search for creatures (or dryad arbor gs). I use animate dead instead of reanimate because I can then also destroy it myself (in the case of world shaper). I use life and death instead of reanimate for flexability. For ramp I use Burgioning, Exploration, Springbloom Druid, Azusa, Driad of the Ilysian Grove, summer bloom, carpet of flowers, harrow, kodama's, explore and cultivate (plus mana crypt and sol ring) Plan to use all the fetchlands on colour. I use stripmine and ghost quarter, ash barrens, barren moor, polluted mire and tranquil thicket, high market, Dakmor Salvage, field of the dead, vesuva, nurturing peatland and one of each snow covered lands, homeward path and emergence zone. Based on the info above, is it reasonable to call it an adaptive deck, or is it still proactive but slower?

[@hectormorales4090]

This is gooood stuff.

[@cwinship]

Bro stop putting so much quality content out on a daily basis, you might just scare the big guys at YT Headquarters!

[@douming5899]

what can the proactive player do when the play group facing your deck too many time(e.g. turbo hulk vannifar)? the players are willing sacrifice their mana efficiency play and leave up the mana to counter the key spell and because the demonic consultation oracle combo can finish off with 3 mana, they can easliy winning form nowhere. Love you works!

[@any5334]

What turn should a proactive deck plan to combo off?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

While a proactive deck can go off early, there isn't a defined "turn" they should go off. Proactive decks seeks to execute their combo asap. This might mean turn 1 for some decks and turn 4-5 for others. However, from a proactive standpoint, it's more advantageous to go off before the other decks have a change to setup and stabilize. That normally means turns 1-3.

[@josepholiver5713]

Really cool. Based on your description, Grenzo Doomsday sounds like it would be a proactive deck right? I feel like it would because all you really need is to get to five mana and tutor up doomsday for an early wincon with Grenzo on the board. And it also has a moment of glory kind of feel where winning after the doomsday method is thwarted gets harder.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Correct. It wants to execute its combo more than control the board.

[@jonwalquist4016]

I've been playing Klothys mass land destruction, which is a disruptive midrange deck, since she came out. CEDH is the best.

[@hiddenleaf414]

Do you come up against a lot of players who have a lot of mana rocks? How Do you deal with them?

[@travelmind5487]

Do you have a Decklist to look at? :D

[@jonwalquist4016]

Hidden Leaf I go about that with Collector Ouphe, Null Rod, and Bane of Progress. And 3 of my 7 MLD spells also destroy artifacts.

[@jonwalquist4016]

TravelMind I'm posting it to TappedOut

[@jonwalquist4016]

TravelMind Here it is: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/klothys-apocalypse-cedh/?cb=1597258969

[@dallen3375]

I've been working on a Kozilek, The Great Distortion deck for a while and was wondering if you'd be able to do a deck tech for him as the commander? I'd like to make him as cedh playable as possible. Thank you.

[@jayceehampton9694]

This video will be a great asset when I revise my Lemures Citadel later this afternoon. And for that I thank you.

[@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena]

So what you are saying is Phage the Untouchable is a proactive deck? noted especially if you are using Last whispers and ways to cheat her out of the command zone without dying to her yourself

[@bencampsall8563]

Will all green decks run mana dorks or is this only for the proactive decks?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

depends on the deck. There is no hard and fast rule. Usually though, they do run dorks to accelerate their game plan.

[@the_social_gammer1976]

What is kenrith. I have multiple combos u talked About

[@kennystone3822]

why do you guys not play more zur??? he's soooo fun

[@mattmiller8818]

I love playing Zur!

[@samp3983]

Nah let Zur stay in the background. I don't want people to see me coming when I stomp them with my Zur deck.

[@DraconisMarchVII]

Do you think Emry is better played proactively or adaptively?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Adaptive, since he requires multiple zones of the game to work and a fair bit of setup.

[@burningdragon91]

Can you make a video on "How do I use tutors?" More often than not I dont know if I should get 1 Part of a combo or rather something like Necropotence or Study to get more draw power. Thanks

[@jesseengmusic57]

A good question is to look at how many counterspells and removal spells have been used and also how many spells are in your opponents hands and how much mana they have open. I usually go for draw in the early game to get card advances but I will go combo piece when I notice an opening.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

That's a great idea! Thanks for the suggestion!

[@Metallicerciful]

Even when playing competitive tier 1 lists I have trouble winning as early as turn 1-2 or even 3. I have maybe won 1 or 2 games on turn 3 all others have been later. It is kinda hard for me to understand how people do it since when watching online games they always seem to have good opening hands and still have 7 cards which means they havent taken too many mulligans. How is that possible? I often find myself having to mul down to 5 to have a normal hand and if I do this it is so much harder to win versus decks that have 7 card hands. Do you have any tips for that? Keep mulliganing to have strong competitive hands?

[@ssnow5516]

Peicho Ivanov It depends on your deck. If you’re on Gitrog, aggressively mulliganing to have a hand with frog mana and a discard outlet/ tutor for dakmoor is better than an ok first seven. Opus Thief on the other hand can go off early. But more often it does plays a long game. Your hand essentially needs to do one of two things. Attempt a win by turn 3 or interact with someone elses attempt by turn 2. You probably need to change up your deck if you are often mulling to 5 for normal hands

[@Lcngopher]

Proactive is kinda aggro Adaptive is basically midrange Disruptive is control

[@andrest-germain92]

Great video! Im just finish my first cedh build right now!!! I have a question i think you cover the subject i Little but Ill ask.. can you Win or can you be competive with a budget Deck?(500$) ??

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Yes, you can be competitive with a budget deck. $500 is more than plenty to be able to compete.

[@andrest-germain92]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG cool thanks a lot! I just finish building Yisan Deck hope IT Will be competive haha! Do you have any reference for good "budget" Deck ?

[@isakl9042]

Ias there any viable sisay weatherlight captain cedh decks?

[@666Metalbassist]

yes. She can tutor things out of your library which makes her a pretty good adaptive commander.

[@calebcrain5086]

So I have a question about my deck. I've been slowly brewing my Lavinia, Azorius Renegade together for the last two years. It has lockdown pieces like Knowledge Pool, Omen Machine, T3feri, Creature Teferi, and Dranith Magistrate, but it also runs efficient counter magic and few extra turn spells. The deck trys to execute lockdown as fast as possible but definitely has the ability to sit back and control the table. Would this be considered an Adaptive deck? And could I send a decklist to you guys for tips or would that be something thats more Patreon exclusive?

[@ssnow5516]

Caleb Crain Thats a disruptive deck.

[@luisedgarcortes]

Quick question I really like the way you guys do the competitive EDH I am looking for making a good Commander CEDH but I am thinking going for Atraxa or Sliver Overlord, which one you think is better an easy to be around. I seen you guys play Breya, so which of this three mentioned you guys think it has the most potential I have almost any card in Magic been collecting since the beginning but I only use it for art porpoises especially the old ones but I want to have one competitive EDH. So you kindly give me a suggestion I really appreciate it.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Breya is probably the best of the three. Then Sliver Overlord. Atraxa is not going to be great from a CEDH standpoint, but if you look into Tymna/Thrasios, those get you the same colors and you'll get card advantage in the command zone.

[@matthewbesherse7001]

What do you guys think about Prossh, skyraider of Kher?

[@matthewbesherse7001]

Mailus I mean I have one so yea. Not fully tuned. Don’t have all the tutors or rocks. But just about everything else.

[@orsettomorbido]

It was the premium Food Chain commander before Korvold! So absolutely it can pack a punch or two. Sadly, it's "just" a combo piece and not a value engine too.

[@matthewbesherse7001]

orsettomorbido true but I have like 6 or 7 other combos with him. Where as korvold needs the infinite combo first before he wins. And he doesn’t have access to ass many different one as Prossh does. Or as easily. Like Korvold is totally in my Prossh deck as a wincon for when I go infinite, but you couldn’t put Prossh in a Korvold deck. Korvold’s backup plan of doming people is for efficient but not as unexpected.

[@Foxribble19]

Would chulane be considered proactive or adaptive? I'm pretty sure it's not disruptive.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

You're correct, it's not disruptive. It's considered adaptive.

[@Foxribble19]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG so I just out of curiosity what makes yisan adaptive? Is it because it can find toolbox creatures for certain situations? Because I honestly thought More of decks like godo helm and yisan to be proactive because I know want to get their commanders out asap because it's either a tutor in the command zone or it just straight up wins on resolution. Sorry if I'm bothering you guys over this but I just want to make sure I'm building my decks right.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

@@Foxribble19 He is considered adaptive, because he can either go for a win forsaking an interactive board presence, or switch to a disruptive strategy by tutoring up hate bears with Yisan's ability. His ability to change his plan depending on the board state is what makes him adaptive.

[@Foxribble19]

@@PlayingWithPowerMTG okay that makes sense well thank you for the enlightenment I'll have to keep all of this information in mind when building a cedh Deck I really appreciate what you all do thank you.

[@mauiipantii]

is there a cedh version of the scarab god?

[@johanhi2]

Maui Panti you could build him relatively strong, but I think not cedh viable. He is not the most effective value engine and not a combo piece if you get an infinite Mana combo out...

[@alexanderpavlov2558]

Every day is nice, but make sure you can keep up. I wouldn’t be mad if it was every 2 or 3 days.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

This introductory series is only 5 videos, so this will conclude at the end of this week. We will be returning to gameplay next week.

[@alexanderpavlov2558]

Playing With Power MTG you should do longer videos about how to play the different strategies, like adaptive you would talk about the specifics for when you are proactive and when you are reactive

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

@@alexanderpavlov2558 We will definitely be doing deeper dives at a later time, but this video series is targeted at players new to CEDH. We don't want to overwhelm players with too much info too quickly.

[@chlebo21]

Do you think that god eternal kefnet is a viable option for cedh?

[@Arcdemon44]

Perhaps in the fringe tier, Kefnet is just too much mana invested for a do nothing card the first turn it comes out.

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

Absolutely. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kefnet-turns-cedh-primer/

[@GT-ok3ev]

Is it possible to make adeliz viable she's my favorite commander

[@ssnow5516]

GT 210 Negative. She doesnt gain you card advantage. Afaik shes not apart of a combo. She doesn’t generate enough damage on her own to be a viable aggro commander. A turn 1 Najeela will have done over 120 damage on turn 6 if none of the warriors are blocked Thats the benchmark

[@GT-ok3ev]

@@ssnow5516 ok thanks

[@Magnivore519]

Uhm, excuse me, I prefer to wait no less than one week between episodes of my favorite series. Slow your roll.

[@heroofcanton101]

This is CEDH, it is often faster than you expect.

[@haoranfranklinsu4204]

Proactive deck with the background picture of force of negation LMAO

[@ian-kr8kc]

Wow, no love for brago huh

[@romnicksalvador8348]

So basically its aggro, control, combo version 2.0

[@Magnivore519]

Somewhat. Aggro, unfortunately, has little place in (c)EDH due to how much life you need to remove from your opponents, so it's more or less absent. There's more of a 'combo beats mid-range beats stax beats combo' loop here.

[@velocevisrin5060]

Not gonna lie tasigur is feeling lonely not getting a mention in any of the three videos so far

[@stuartalt7418]

Your intro on your other videos say you play with the most powerful cards in the most powerful formats. When are you going to do formats that aren't cEDH?

[@PlayingWithPowerMTG]

When the demand presents itself

[@guffawker]

Proactive - Combo Reactive - Control Adaptive - Mid Range

[@RossBox]

I lost the die roll. Guess I'm the second comment

[@Lavorre]

Ahh, so its rock-paper-scissors....

[@lordofdeath1876]

first

[@any5334]

How did you comment 15 hours before the video released?

[@lordofdeath1876]

@@any5334 I am a Pateron member to them

[@ColinRichardsonMUSIC]

Completely irrelevant to the video, but I’d love to see somebody tune up Winota

[@Galopino1994]

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[@borosman720]

Yesssss!

[@gangrel1234]

Realy Like cEDH, your Channel, etc. But to be completly honest, cEDH means only Combo and interaction :/

[@ssnow5516]

You can play Najeela if you want. It does have combo finishes but I have seen plenty of games end in najeela beats

[@hiddenleaf414]

Yuriko, Najeela and Edric can all win through just combat aggro. Fill them with counters and you’re good.

[@jakobostheimer4066]

That true. Njeela and blood pod are strategies that can easily win through combat damage too tho