Momir vig hackball deck tech cEDH

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[@thekidmartian1]

As someone who got started into cEDH on this deck I can say from experience that this deck is actually very very budget friendly if you would like it to be. It also is an interesting intermediate level deck because it requires a lot of thinking about what type of tool boxing you are going to put into your deck.

[@lucasdomingue9319]

I built a more complex, slightly less performant version of this combo on the cheap and it works fairly well, even in competitive groups. With the expensive cards removed, I slotted in even more elves, acceleration and I love how each card has 2 roles: help the combo AND interact/ramp. It's really all about slot efficiency and building a toolbox.

[@Bcdeano]

Great video man! I never really had been all that interested in Momir, but now you have me wanting to try it! Looks fun

[@gamergirlpiss319]

Walking ballista is fun, the first thing i thought of though was Squall Line in the spirit of jank druids. Love this deck!

[@Bobbeloud]

I’ve been playing this deck for years with the Heritage Druid/Nettle Sentinel/Phan Image combo and I’ve always thought the noncreature hack effects are awkward. Stick to beast whisperer, painter servant, and vizier. RIP paradox engine, but glad we still have intruder alarm! Great video, love the channel!

[@stevieivaughn-petelle3837]

Dont worry the intruder alarms are still working

[@nzephier]

Masked vandal is a nice upgrade for rec sage, and I'd add glasspool mimic instead of phantasmal image. HEAR ME OUT: it's a land on the backside! That may come in handy! Personally I'd try to find a way to add biovsionary to this with augmenter pugilist//echoing equation, makes it feel like an exodia deck! Just my 2 cents!

[@ghostofkrows]

Thank you for another great video. I hope everyone has good games this week.

[@cedhtv]

I have had a lot of good games againest it.

[@bryanbonar]

Momir is maybe my second favorite simic commander behind Ezuri Claw of Progress

[@sunnysidefriendakdk2829]

I really like the decks that you talk about that are more off the main stream and I like the thoughts on how the format may grow

[@nzephier]

I have a high power casual momir vig deck, I'm thinking I'm gonna build this!

[@NeoAxiom]

My friend literally built momir vig as his first edh deck Also from a Yisan player: play sylvan safekeeper if you're trying to protect your commander

[@hooliganking2659]

NeoAxiom SS is near busted in my Korvold Lands deck

[@tonyontilt3522]

My 1st edh deck as well. Didn't know about hacks then

[@nathanlall6840]

One of my favorite decks to pilot

[@waynefeller8824]

Why?

[@nathanlall6840]

@@waynefeller8824 it's very consistent in two very strong colors, I always feel like I can win when I have a certain amount of mana

[@waynefeller8824]

@@nathanlall6840 - Thanks for that. I am designing a Momir deck around combos, so was eager to hear your experiences

[@tienkieu4806]

Cool deck, but I am wondering if Clone theme is actually a viable variant for Momir Vig nowadays

[@Silver-zf1bh]

Could you make a as competitive as you can narset deck tech and explain how to play or build her

[@cedhtv]

Jeskai narset? Narset turns?

[@evanalexis3757]

@@cedhtv I'm assuming the OP is leaving it up to you to decide which style is more competitively viable

[@siivamander8460]

cEDH TV I would love to see a narset deck

[@isaachaahr8691]

The answer is fairly straightforward. Narset would be a proactive deck so play as many pieces of fast mana as possible a few ways of enabling haste and the rest is extra combat or extra turn spells.

[@shikabaneconga]

i love your accent, also i love this combo, subscribed!

[@cedhtv]

Welcome to the channel.

[@FyrebirdLP]

decklist link doesnt work sadly

[@cedhtv]

It works now. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/momir-vig-hackball-cedh-deck/?cb=1582399205

[@somersetbassett4580]

Is Mikaeus the unhollowed a deck in the cEDH meta? How do u define that? Im used to the legacy meta, but cEDH seems scattered and I think that's bc not everyone is trying to win. Wyt?

[@cedhtv]

So Mikaeus is not a valid commander in the cEDH meta. I made a video about what is making a commander valible. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYbQpX1ui7iAldk This video explains it quite well I think. So his problem is that he is mono-black with no card draw. You wanna have a lot of color identities and a good commander at the same time. 6 mana is bad. He is a combo piece but that isen't enough. He needs to be more. All cEDH players are different. Your opinion might be different than mine depending on what cEDH players you have played against. But we (or the ones I play with) are all focused on winning.

[@JBeleren]

Hey Mons I like to hear your thought about Spell Snare? It's counter a Lot of Hatebears, Commanders (Thrasios) and Cyvlonic Rift and new to the List Thassas Oracle. So is it vaible now?

[@cedhtv]

YES! It is definatly viable now. It has a lot of different targets.

[@crovax1375]

How would you build around Lich and similar cards? That's been something I've wanted to do for awhile now

[@yanborlapireslimabatista6953]

As a Hackball player, I have a question: why get rid of Nantuko Tracer?

[@cedhtv]

WHen you have infinit mana it dosen't matter wheter you go with nuntuko tracer of eternal withness. If Momir vig gets killed all the time. I think it is better to get a card from grave back to hand compard to putting it back into the deck.

[@stevieivaughn-petelle3837]

Where are cloudstone curio, grindstone, venser , whim of volrath, drakeand Navigator, ezuri renegade leader, selvala, and umbral Mantle

[@stevieivaughn-petelle3837]

A lot of vig players overlook the vizier, and i have consistently been told that its not worth it until the game ends and the vizier gives me 1 of 8 wins

[@romnicksalvador8348]

So thats explains it. Neat..

[@ilianceroni]

To be honest this seems less competitive that my semi-competitive Momir deck. I may be wrong, with my friends we're starting to get into cEDH, but still "casually". My Momir has three win cons: --Thassa's Oracle + Leveler Both are creatures, so I can fetch them (if possible during the opponent turns, with a flash creature like Frilled Mystic) and win spending 7 mana. Of course, it's risky, if Thassa's oracle get countered I'm screwed. --Experiment Kraj + Knacksaw Clique + Bloom Tender/Incubation Druid/Ilysian Carytid Needs Kraj able to tap and the others two pieces with a counter +1/+1 (pretty easy with Graft and other simic tricks). Kraj can now tap for two manas (at least one blue) and untap to exile a card from opponent library. It can goes infinite and because the untap is a cost, it doesn't go on the stack, so I virtually can not be stopped. Unfortunatly, it's a three pieces, cluncky and expensive combo, even with Momir as commander to fetch them and a lot of ramp this is a bit slow and predictable. Both the mana dork and Kraj can be usefull even when I'm not trying to combo up, tho. --Simic Ascendancy + Vorel of the Hull Clade/Hydra's Growth This became the first win con if I draw Simic Ascendency early on the game. With a creature with Graft or others simic counters-synergetic creatures (like Fathom Mage) it's pretty easy to reach those 20 counters. Unfortunately it triggers during upkeep, so even if the deck it's "control" and I often play most in opponents turns, this win-con is very obvious and easy (enchant remouval) to disrupt. Because all the pieces are low in mana cost and it can actually go by itself, I use it only if I draw into Simic Ascendancy. However in some games becamed a distraction for my opponents: they looked to the card with "win the game" and not to what I was serching with Momir. -- There's also Flash+Hulk, wich can be used to came out from nowhere "closing" a combo. Like If I got Thassa's Oracle I can spend just 3 blue manas and one of any colour to do the first combo. But I guess that's was obvious, like painter servant in Momir :D

[@stevieivaughn-petelle3837]

As a momir vig player who has consistently played him your deck wouldnt stand a chance against any mana sink combos, or ezuri sage of wins

[@ilianceroni]

Steviei Vaughn-petelle yeah, it’s still “in development” and all the win con have a lot of draw backs. But you mean that Momir hackball works better against these strategy/archetypes? Or you think the commander is just not enough competitive per se?

[@dock_dotcom2029]

Are you Swedish?

[@cedhtv]

Yes I am. Ja det är jag. Är du svensk?

[@dock_dotcom2029]

@@cedhtv Ja

[@dock_dotcom2029]

Bra KZbin kanal btw

[@TheNotoriousJTS]

warning: i built this on mtgo and some of the hack effects crash the game or dont work. deck is sweet though

[@cedhtv]

Good input. That is way I stay with paper.

[@louis1111111111111]

i v quit a video about haktos, which deck build was awfull, to this intro. And god are you better at presenting thing x)

[@dystopianaverice1981]

First

[@cedhtv]

According to youtube analytics you where first.

[@coconutmilkisbestmilk1702]

i am so confused

[@cedhtv]

In that case how can I help you?

[@RadicalSquidward]

Second!

[@cedhtv]

According to youtube analytics you where second.

[@RadicalSquidward]

Fixed @@cedhtv