Celebrating KTTV's 70 Years: New evidence in Menendez murders could mean new trial

[@rmscott8013]

They don't deserve to be in prison. In my opinion, they should get psychiatric and mental help for their PTSD. It's their parents fault they snapped

[@natalielaanee]

YES^^^

[@natalielaanee]

i definitely think they should serve time but not life in prison . hell some rapist don’t even get life.

[@alexisgreenwood9496]

They did

[@theylovelivv_9337]

@Jeepman89 doesn’t mean it never happened you don’t know what they been through 😐

[@Eva-iy8vl]

This ^^^

[@stephanieveliz7795]

dude where the trial at ??? its 2020 alreadyyyy freedddddd themmm

[@gbecks3672]

Stephanie Veliz right

[@keishi4080]

Is there maybe a Petition we can sign?

[@arisworld6711]

They deserve to be out by now

[@arisworld6711]

Gie Gie there father raped them and they told there mom and she wouldn’t listen and they were young and did not know how to deal with the situation.

[@arisworld6711]

Gie Gie if you watch the footage of them in court you can see that it was hard for them to open up about it. I believe it is true. There cousin once saw there father and Eric.

[@shantaedavis4393]

I can't take my focus off of Eric. I believe he was a good kid he was hurting bad and you can see it.

[@readynow12345]

He was a good kid robbing all the neighbors houses, my ass.

[@shawnjohnson7608]

Let them out

[@readynow12345]

Fuk you my nigga.

[@rz7995]

🤦🏾‍♀️

[@90i3xiwus]

@@readynow12345 he didn’t rob

[@queenyuistar2421]

Free those innocent boys!!! They had been totured sexually by their cruel parents

[@nicoleboutilier882]

I agree...you wouldnt make up those stories of abuse..the details...they did 30 years..that's enough

[@seminp205]

What was stopping them from reporting there parents

[@parkthemusician]

nils1134 You don’t know them or they’re real intentions. No one does.

[@agnessammut4939]

@@nicoleboutilier882 I don't believe them...they are manipulaters...

[@nicoleboutilier882]

@@agnessammut4939 yes, you're probably right ..however we'll never really know

[@mistyrivers4995]

I hope these brother be pardoned for they did what they did because they were humiliated by their own parents to the lowest unimaginable disgusting unacceptable action from a father to his own child

[@Clintsessentials]

Yep

[@cue1806]

Nope didnt happen. Maybe Biden will

[@abmarin9308]

@@cue1806 Biden a bitch he ain’t pardoning anybody

[@samieD22]

Contact governor Newsom for a commutation of their sentence: @projectMenendez has letters formatted on instagram, they will send one in your name of you don’t want to do the work.

[@lifeonwheels5756]

The father was a jerk not stupid, he wouldn’t have sent them to a therapist if he had actually molested them, a molester doesn’t want to bring any attention to themselves esp in the form off a therapist

[@BossChronicles]

Free them already

[@AngelQueenTK]

Yes yes let us out

[@bbkayy1854]

It’s so sad to think that literally there whole entire life has been filled with nothing but misery and pain, I hope they are able to get out and have enough time left to experience atleast somewhat of a happy life

[@nellym.6555]

This letter does not prove at any time any type of sexual abuse, these boys just wanted to be at parties and drugs and their parents wanted them to be successful people. Unfortunately, today's society sees everything as abuse. That's why today's young people dedicate themselves only to committing crimes and being involved in drugs due to lack of rigor from parents.

[@christar9527]

They do not belong in prison! Let them out! They suffered enough at the hands of their parents and theirs was a natural response to trauma. Free the Menendez brothers.

[@francelewis4628]

You don't know that we all don't know that, no one knows the real truth

[@Crazy_Peanutz]

@D B How does that make any sense? They needed money for what? They were rich they had all the money they wanted it makes no sense to kill your parents for something you already have. Besides there IS evidence and testimonies that they were indeed abused

[@Crazy_Peanutz]

@D B Yeah, cause a 13 year old kid would think: "hmmm I want to murder my parents but not now... Maybe in 8 more years, but still, I could write a fake letter now to my cousin so it looks like my dad is raping me so MAYBE I could get lesser prison for it." Do you hear how fucking ridiculous that sounds?

[@Crazy_Peanutz]

@D B Dude, you know that that letter they found was from WAAYYYY back you know that right? It wasn't written just before the killings, or even a few years before, it was written by a KID. A SCARED KID THAT COULDN'T LIVE HIS LIFE BECAUSE OF HIS DAD. You also know that if their parents are rich, they would've just gotten the money anyways right? It's not like they needed the money in a hurry. And if they DID do it for the money they would've used it to get away from the police, but they didn't, they turned themselves in. Why would you kill your parents for money and then spend the rest of your life in jail? It makes cero sense and thank god you're not actually investigating the case cause your level of retardness is outstanding

[@Crazy_Peanutz]

@D B Okay, you just destroyed your whole "argument" you say they had a carefree lifestyle, then again, why would they live like that? they knew they were getting caught. Wouldn't it make more sense to use that money to escape or buy their way out? Its more likely they wanted to spend the money just before they were arrested, enjoying the few months they had before prison. Also, if they had a bad defense and weren't prepared, like you say, HOW WOULD THEY MAKE UP THE BIG STORY ABOUT BEING ABUSED BY THEIR DAD AND EVEN MORE SO, GET THEIR COUSIN TO TESTIFY AND AGREE AND HAVE PROOF??? See?? It doesn't make fucking sense. Have you seen how they react in the trials? THey are either the greatest actors that ever lived or they're telling the truth, and it's obvious its the latter one

[@barbarabyrne8653]

They should be freed by now. And a public apology given to them by the press for the handling of their image during the trial. How they portrayed them as greedy rich kids affected their case.

[@jennifernunya909]

Somebody needs to start a petition for Biden to pardon these boys...

[@elenasdcuz2793]

I agree ... the boys did the only thing they could

[@ritawilliams8686]

Your idea go for it?.. The governor can parden them

[@samieD22]

@projectmenendez on instagram can help yall. She has letters for commutation of their sentence. Please go and she’ll send a letter in your name to the governor and DA.

[@trudyseeker3550]

Biden that's a joke.. President Donald Trump hes been saving children for years that why they want to kill him because they don't want to go to gitmo or be executed it will blow your mind when it finally comes out the MSM are very culpable in blinding the people xxxxx

[@anheiravi]

Let's start one.

[@CL-ii9cx]

Years ago, jury did not reflect the impact of abuse especially by own father. Free them.

[@kaylinwhite6584]

The jury in the second trial didn’t hear the abuse until the penalty phase and much of it was blocked by the prosecution to insure a conviction.

[@kuyaj7469]

Justice is really hard to achieve. I feel so sad for them. 😭

[@endure1922]

They have being punished enough and it started in childhood. Free them

[@ghostwrldd]

i believe every word they say, no child should face the trauma they had. its so sad. they deserve to finally be loved by their loved ones and have a normal life. if what theyre saying is all fake, then man theyre really good actors but i really do believe that theyre trauma is real. you can see the pain in their eyes.

[@JJ-bi4ri]

They should be freed now!!

[@pierrepinson2906]

😊I'm happy that the two brothers are reunited👍👍👍👍. They had DISGUSTING, cruel parent. I HOPE they Will be free sooner.

[@90i3xiwus]

That letter really hurt, you can see the pain all over it 😞

[@arunaabikar5099]

I am being haunted by this case. Erik was of my age when he snapped. I know kids who have been taken advantage of and the lasting psychological impact it has on them. Damaged for life. I am sincerely begging the system to reconsider this case. Give them chance to live a normal life which they never got a chance to live. Don't look at the lifestyle they enjoyed. It was a facade, sad sort of retail therapy to compensate the abuse they were made to endure. Lyle never got to experience childhood because at 6 he was already in sexual relationship with his father. No wonder his mother hated him. if they didnt do this.. father would have done it to save family reputation and God knows how many more kids would have been subjected to similar atrocity. My heart is heavy just thinking of the little boys and the burden they were made to carry

[@curlyheaded._kenziee1788]

FREEEEE THEM!!!!!

[@AngelQueenTK]

Free US all

[@StellaGizzi]

Free them! 30 yrs is enough for any crime. Let them go home to their wives and families.

[@sunnyroses3202]

I pray for the Melendez brothers they don't deserved that sad life

[@MiliaSanASMR]

*Menendez

[@Yasmearr]

Is it just me who thinks Eric is cute?

[@C.I366]

I like Lile

[@Jupiterwind]

I agree. He is very charming. 🤭

[@goatw0rld628]

he fine af

[@よしこさん-g4p]

No

[@lacherieana1125]

They’re both very attractive. It’s too bad it worked out this way

[@palomahealing5073]

Poor Lyle...I feel sorry for him! I went through life with a Monster mother and nasty/twisted strict Father. I can't believe Lyle was forced to have to testify all those detailed sexual encounters? That's was straight out Cruelty!!!!!! This kind of shit marks you forever, regardless of Therapy or not!🤨 I hope you help them get their life back in some way! Thank you

[@nellym.6555]

This letter does not prove at any time any type of sexual abuse, these boys just wanted to be at parties and drugs and their parents wanted them to be successful people. Unfortunately, today's society sees everything as abuse. That's why today's young people dedicate themselves only to committing crimes and being involved in drugs due to lack of rigor from parents.

[@PAMAROSHOUSE]

hope thet get their trial.

[@annetteslife]

So do I

[@katalinaaniseto5632]

Can they just be free already sad they get to grow up into the adult life with no kids no wife

[@veronicarolling9054]

actually, they’re both married and Erik has a step daughter!

[@irisiris3842]

@@veronicarolling9054 now they are free?

[@veronicarolling9054]

@@irisiris3842 sadly no. the men are still in prison, and they met their wives as pen pals! and the child in the picture is Erik’s step daughter.

[@irisiris3842]

@@veronicarolling9054 @Roni Rolling ooooo poor boys. Life was so cruel and unfair for both of them. Thank you for replying. Have a nice day 😊

[@veronicarolling9054]

@@irisiris3842 I agree! And no problem. You have a great day also!! 🧡

[@joellehatem5309]

Full support to those brothers.

[@jherzenneo5512]

Look at them smiling so widely even if they're in prison,it's like they are in prison but they felt free Let them out!

[@Venezia41]

Pretty much. One of the psychiatrists actually stated something similar concerning Erik.

[@heolimlie]

its 2021 but where's the trial?? its time to freed them. they just want to get away from that hell

[@samieD22]

If ya’ll wanna do something, @projectmenendez on instagram has letters to send to Governor Newsom in support of their commutation. Idky everyone doesn’t know about this.

[@cynthiadavid5282]

They killed their parents period don't free them keep them in prison for life they seem to be adjusting well they could have left this abuse seek counseling they had other options they committed the crime they do the time

[@kts5920]

THEY ARE INNOCENT!!

[@kaylinwhite6584]

Killing your parents isn’t an innocent thing to do. I don’t understand where you got that conclusion.

[@yourbeloved5251]

@@kaylinwhite6584 dude they were sexually ASSAULTED and they were out of the will Jose said so they couldn’t kill their parents for the money

[@yourbeloved5251]

@@kaylinwhite6584 Erik also has a scar on his leg when Jose cut him. There were nude photos of Erik and Lyle. One pictures had Jose touching lyles private area 😐

[@yourbeloved5251]

@@kaylinwhite6584 they did it in self defense

[@stephanyortiz2464]

They deserve freedom. I believe they should live their lives free they had enough with their abusive father all they wanted was for everything to stop.

[@kellybosch1828]

They've been in jail long enough for killing their parents so now it's time for them to get justice for what happened to them. It's 2021, child molesting is a big deal they need justice

[@pazvababe89]

Free them ,they should have just served 5 years or less

[@Eva-iy8vl]

@Jeepman89 but it’s why they did it

[@doublebraincell6458]

Not less then 5 but 15 years would be good

[@Soper.Nova69]

They already suffered so much under their parents and they continually suffered in prison up to this day. Thank you Sir Robert for sticking with this case and helping the truth come out. As a survivor of sexual myself, this means so much to me and to all the other victims of sexual abuse. I sincerely hope and pray that the brothers will have their justice soon. The brothers deserve their freedom! The incompetent justice system needs to pay them for all the years they have spent in prison!!!

[@Littlemisssunshin500]

Free them!

[@anosabihanogah2288]

They deserved to be happy now with their own family. The suffered long enough. Where's the justice there?

[@tiffanyblack9704]

Its time those boys were let out of prison.

[@lilax7203]

1:45 show the whole damn picture

[@CheyennefromTaos]

BLESS THIS MAN 💜

[@TIGRESSA73]

I hope they do get another trial!! Those horrible parents cause these guys to snap!

[@raymondkwamie9966]

They were old enough to LEAVE!! Never believed they were sexually abused by their father..they killed their parents for insurance and inheritance money!! They should rot in jail!!!!

[@IsabelaPeña-q8e]

give them a new trial!!!!!!!!!

[@mayraecheverria898]

This is so sad how 😢

[@anheiravi]

Take them to trial again.. I will pitch in for them.

[@katherinebacs1324]

Erik and lyle deserves to be set free

[@fransiscarumiris9944]

They got their punishment already when they were living with their parents. So set them free already❤️❤️

[@Jackie371]

Letters can be analyzed chemically & back-dated to within 2 weeks of when they were written. I'm sorry that I didn't believe them back then. I understand more now, having had a sexual abuse situation in my home since then. I wish they were out to live their lives abuse-free. They were young, abused for so long, & wanted to make sure the it stopped.

[@autumnburton2091]

Why are you on every video about them commenting the same thing? Is this an obsession of yours?

[@jennifernunya909]

@Jeepman89 please do tell how you "know" this... you sound pretty cocky for a KZbin detective. What are your credentials? Please enlighten us🙄

[@samieD22]

You shouldn’t have to be abused to be believe them. There was def prejudice against men back then. Lorena bobbit cut off her bfs dick and was set free. Other lady set her bf on fire on the basis of battered woman syndrome... Set free. No manslaughter charge... Nothing. Yet these boys have 101 witnesses on the stand and the justice system bulldozed them. Sick and gut wrenching.

[@chameleonsoul9237]

it’s been 2 years... where’s their trial..?

[@riri-zb1ig]

exactly smh

[@heolimlie]

ikr

[@Jacky_115]

fr

[@raquel_becks]

the letter was never admitted into evidence in either trial, neither the judge, the attorneys, or the jury ever saw it. that's why they're talking about it.

[@C.I366]

I saw a video where a judge says "this doesn't denote sexual abuse". No it implies happy times with your dad 😅

[@lacherieana1125]

Get them a new trial and the possibility of parole. Charles Manson was sentenced to death and had the possibility of parole. How many parole hearings did he have?!

[@sarahdurgin7483]

I am thankful every day that I was born into a family that was not abusive. But it isn't too hard for me to imagine that if I had been tortured like these men were by their own parents, that I would want to end them for the irreparable damage they inflicted. The only difference between these two and most other abuse survivors, is that they actually went through with it. Things that happened prior to and following the murders seem like acting out, not greed. They have been paying the price for their parents' abuse their whole lives. They have been model prisoners for 35 years and deserve to be free.

[@alexnimni779]

they were convicted wrongfully in my opinion they should’ve been convicted for man slaughter. been let off after 30 years

[@jstephenj]

-- They planned out the murders days in advance. -- Lyle gave his brother, Erik time to think it over. -- They purchased the rifles using an I.D.. Lyle had stolen from on of his friends from Princeton. -- The brothers traveled several miles from where they lived to purchase the weapons. When they killed their parents, they ambushed them while they were sitting on the couch watching TV. -- They had to go out to the car to kill the mother because they ran out of ammo. -- They shotgunned their dead parents in the kneecaps to make it look like a mob hit. -- They collected the shell casings. -- They got rid of their clothes and weapons and after showering went to see a movie to fabricate their alibi. -- They then made their infamous 911 call to report that their parents were murdered. These two men were not helpless boys. They had every opportunity to back out but went ahead with it anyway. They are where they belong.

[@Muirmaiden]

@@jstephenj Anyone can be abused. Age, gender, etc, makes no difference. Their father was a powerful man and very controlling. His wealth was part of how he controlled them.

[@iiMercc]

@@jstephenj thank you. Only knowledgeable person i’ve seen on here.

[@iiMercc]

@Halima M you’re wrong. Theyre murderers . Sure the parents had it coming, but they still took 2 lives. Murder is Murder. You can’t/won’t change my mind

[@estrelladelamanana2416]

JUSTICE, JUSTICE for Erik and Lyle.

[@sandraramos5915]

Only God knows the truth. God have loving Mercy on their souls

[@BelleAtisHMi]

28 years is enough for killing especially when you’re not guilty

[@gillianschmidt7318]

Oh please someone help these boys get out they deserve a little bit of life left outside.

[@estrelladelamanana2416]

I strongly believe that they kill their abuser not their parents .

[@annmariepardo6989]

I hope that these Brothers, get help to get out of jail That they are free to have and enjoy a normal life, in this world. They never had a chance to have a normal life, in the past people did not focus on the rich and famous. Those are the kind of families that dirty secret gets buried and people like these two boys are left to suffer. I am sad 😔 for them both, unfortunately, they did not found this letter before.

[@trudyseeker3550]

I wonder if some hollywood child stars might have something they know of their dad please release these guys xxxx

[@racharina]

At two years of finding that letter why there is not another trial yet?

[@marikuna750]

Poor boys💔💔💔💔💔FREE THEM

[@NicE-jq3wv]

Pretty sure that letter and cousin testimony would have been evidence in the original trial if true.

[@jstephenj]

@TIME! The brothers had the opportunity to introduce the evidence from their first trial, but that was taken off the table when Lyle refused to take the stand in light of incriminating tapes that would have been introduced into the second trial. The defense tried to exempt both brothers from taking the stand, instead allowing their testimonies from the first trial to be introduce as evidence to protect them from cross examination. The idea that the brothers were barred from introducing evidence into testimony is laughable because they had the opportunity to do so, but decided not to because Lyle was afraid to take the stand.

[@C.I366]

@TIME! Yes I read that too. But coersive control nerds to become a crime and then it light be different

[@C.I366]

@@jstephenj yes I would have handled it better at that point too if I was their lawyer. Truth always shines they didn't have to hide anything.

[@jstephenj]

@@C.I366 Well, if incrimintating tape recording of me saying that I had fooled half the country during the first trial was going to be introduced into the first trial as evidence, I too probably would not have taken the stand. However, much of the abuse allegations hinged on Lyle's testimony. And because he refused to take the stand, much of his claims of being molested by his father became somewhat irrelevant at that point. If he wanted to deploy the abuse excuse during the second trial, he should have taken the stand.

[@Muirmaiden]

@@jstephenj That "recording" never existed. Dominick Dunne paid a woman named Martha Shelton to fabricate stories about the Menendez brothers in his articles in Vanity Fair Magazine. The tapes of Lyle's conversations with Norma Novelli (which were recorded without his knowledge or consent) were never admitted into evidence because the judge listened to them and stated that there was nothing of significance on them. Please get your facts straight. 'Shelton, 40, who lives in Stafford, Va, says Dunne first paid her to lie for a piece he wrote about Erik and Lyle Menendez in April 1994, then paid her to keep quiet over 10 years. She is quoted in Dunne’s April 1994 piece saying she overheard Lyle Menendez tell someone, after his first trial ended in a mistrial, “We’ve snowed half the country. Now we have to snow the other half.” “That was a lie,” Shelton now says. According to stories in the Los Angeles Times and Washington Post in mid-May 1994, authorities searched her home to find evidence to support her quoted statement, but came up empty. Shelton now says she never overheard Menendez say that, but she was coached by Dunne. Shelton says she told Vanity Fair fact checkers at the time the quote was made up, but they were only interested in getting her tape-recorded statement owning up to the quote - which she provided. Shelton admits she lied in the past. “What I did was wrong,” she said, referring to the quote she gave to Vanity Fair. “But what he did was wrong as well. He backed out of a deal.” It was while in prison for the check-writing fraud in the early 1990s that she first wrote to Lyle Menendez, and they continued a friendship when she got out, she said. In the second trial, Erik and Lyle Menendez were convicted of murdering their parents. ' nypost.com/2004/05/14/she-says-he-dunne-her-wrong/?fbclid=IwAR24pj6tspQ4SBE2OopHQh2wG272hVFKkjZxZcDYF7GHsesjhDjNPiDYa9w

[@marcierenee15]

And NOW even more has come out about the father molesting a boy from a boy band. So much has come out now about the extreme pedophilia in the entertainment industry, I hope these brothers FINALLY get released.

[@nikkigill4038]

What was the point of living a lavish life in a beautiful home and be treated like a nothing.

[@atikahlilian1797]

Please set them free... they deserve a happy life,they really deserve it so set them freee

[@anosabihanogah2288]

It's not psychiatric they need psychological help after the trauma the suffered from their parents and been jailed for many years .all they need is understanding and mental support

[@hopeday8358]

bro.. free them it was self defense this is crazy, it’s 2021-

[@Azizam.tz1]

there will be a vote when it is full the brothers will be released from prison this year, right?

[@hopeday8358]

@@Azizam.tz1 i hope so

[@Azizam.tz1]

@@hopeday8358 i hope so i cry for them because they don't deserv jail life !! But atleast we now there are alive with us sorry for my Englisch

[@brianping3105]

Funny how the letter now comes out, twenty years after the conviction...and how he wrote it after the murder..too funy

[@doublebraincell6458]

He was talking about how he was still being abused lmaoo

[@C.I366]

It's abvuoys that letter shows sexual abuse. At least physical, at least psychological. This letter shows terror, this is way to big emotion to be felt by a child towards the father on a daily basis. Fucking free them, you heard enough. You dont want to, really, as all the evidence is there

[@90i3xiwus]

These men are completely innocent I don’t get why there still in jail, we need to do something about this

[@kaylinwhite6584]

They are not” innocent” when they confessed to the crime. There’s no disputing that. It is a matter of why they did it

[@90i3xiwus]

@@kaylinwhite6584 no. They are innocent cuz they killed there parents as self-defense

[@Jacky_115]

@Kaylin White it was kill or be killed. they had no choice.

[@Jacky_115]

@Kaylin White read your reply, notice something? you said 'in the moment' yes, they WERE gonna kill the sons soon. explain why they had hidden guns in their room and threatened to kill them many times.

[@Nailsbyjo]

They need to have a new trial and set them free already . Let them have some peace before they leave this world !

[@aimem.4776]

It’s easy to judge & there will always 2 sides to every story in general but only 1 truth. Killing wasn’t the answer but these brothers only know why they did what they did. People are so quick to judge, leave that to God. I hope they find the peace they need.

[@onlyoneil4160]

I luv u for saying this I honestly got so tired of ppl just saying let them go that there not lying cause we nvr rlly know if it’s the truth or a lie it only GOD that can judge us !!!!!

[@dahliacastillo9352]

They don’t deserve to be in jail for so long

[@acc4465]

It doesn’t matter if they were molested. It’s irrelevant.

[@leighgaffney1360]

eriks voice hit different

[@bucc8622]

Casey Anthony, who killed her child who did nothing wrong to her, with all those evidences pointing at her is walking free. While these two abused men, with evidences and witnesses are in prison for life with no parole because the jurors & judge focused too much in the murder, but not the cause of it. The brothers were telling the truth, you can tell it in their emotions. You can't fake those in your first trial and murder. You can tell that they're not psychopaths or sociopaths like Casey.

[@kaylinwhite6584]

I think the reason why the letter was amiss able in court was being maybe the judge couldn’t pinpoint the date it was written.

[@marooqi]

No, it was only recently discovered in the dead cousins belongings. It would certainly be enough to prove they are telling the truth about the sexual abuse, if anyone still doubts them.

[@heythere2033]

can they get a new trial then and show that letter ?

[@beatlemccartney9227]

I am still torn about all this

[@HopefulInterventions]

These men deserve to get out. Shame on the prosecution!

[@adwoasays0693]

Freee them please

[@Mcoogie]

We can't ignore the fact that these young men MADE THE DECISION to murder their parents, premeditated or not- and this is a decision MOST people won't make, either because they are law abiding, or they didn't want to in the first place ( healthy social behaviour) and found an alternative solution to escaping their problem. Citizens who DO DECIDE to murder, premeditated or not, need to be punished when they do commit these acts. We should also remember that these boys DID demonstrate antisocial behaviour before and after the murder, so if they had not murdered their parents, there is a possibility they would have murdered later in life, etc. Their act of murder speaks to how they think and interact with their world around them. Aside from this, if we were to pardon all murderers who had pain inflicted on them, we would be pardoning 70-90% of killers. In fact, plenty of psychopaths have patterns of abuse as children. We can add people who murder their spouse because of the abuse of cheating, the list goes on. The first question is: Is murder excusable, and if so, what makes murder excusable? And to this I would say defense, only. Any other type of situation may be really bad, but there is always a choice other than murder to get out of your circumstances. And the second question is: if you believe that having experienced abuse makes you immune to murder, how do we know how much abuse makes it excusable? And how do we measure the impact of that abuse on the person? Where is the line here? Is any of this fair? And is murder the only offence we pardon due to abuse? If we found out the father was sexually abused by his father as a child, would we pardon him for what he did to his sons? I think people are over-simplifying the situation here. Abuse doesn't relieve one of culpability, IMO, and unfortunately. God bless the whole family. Very tragic story. 💔

[@mrcompatible5432]

They were pushed to murder. They were pushed to insanity

[@success1304]

I agree with what you have said

[@repssrepps]

A cheating spouse and sexual abused children not the same trauma or pain you must be a psychotic yourself for that claim they are not even in the same category

[@repssrepps]

I’m not condoning murder but validation of murder in this country is not new depending on the circumstances if they benefit us or not abortion is legal murder, wars on foreign countries to take their natural resources legal murder so lets not act like double standards don’t exist

[@shannonbrown560]

I don't agree. The sexual abuse and years of trauma clouded their judgement. They said they thought their parents would kill them because Erik told Lyle of the abuse. Based on the dad threats they wanted to save their own lives before the dad took theirs.

[@ninjauzumaki7874]

tsk , tsk, when it comes to sexual abuse it is nothing , dont you know that many of the suicides and mental illness is because they are abused , bulshit

[@musiclovetara]

Our world is a bleaker place while these men are in prison.

[@badmotorscooter1000]

No need for a new trial they served their time. The parents were monsters. Those guys were kids at the time and nobody should have to endure what they had happen to them. Good ridence Joe

[@lamiya900]

Get them out of prison now

[@starperez1040]

To the uncle and he choose not to believe them have you seen those?

[@estrelladelamanana2416]

Set them free Erik and Lyle were victims Justice for them now .

[@ritawilliams8686]

Don't just post here,take action. Contact The governor of California or the State Attorney

[@AdorableDeplorable40]

These boys have served 31 years in prison and I say that’s way too long! Let them out and here’s an idea... Let’s start holding rapists accountable.

[@mysteriouslights4046]

They had a choice to go to authorities about their lives instead of killing their parents. I'm not judging them at all but I wonder what would happen if they did.

[@samieD22]

Nah… The officer who was working at that department indicated that the father “could not have been touching his kids bc he was MARRIED AND WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR.” POs are not trained in the psychology of Child molsters apparently especially ppl from the fckn 50s. Children of child abse are just recently being helped by the system and CPS has been established since the 80s. The system sucks arse. The Turpin children are a perfect example of how Child abuse isn’t taken seriously. They transferred hem to a “nice” foster home and those ppl emotionally abused them on top of what already happened to them. Also, they’re males. Males don’t report much bc of the way society treats them when they do. They certainly don’t deserve LWOP.

[@dominicsantiagodelavega4306]

Nothing

[@anabelrios1968]

nothing, exactly

[@lindacella185]

Free Them

[@marthacymbaluk3513]

A huge beautiful mansion does not make it a home. Nothing made it home. They both need help and should be set free to finally heal.

[@sarahhhhhhhh569]

Anyone else think maybe they were hyperventilating knowing they were facing a life sentence...the way they behaved after their parents death just doesn’t add up it seems like money was the motive

[@C.I366]

Why would money be, they were the natural inheriteers.

[@sarahhhhhhhh569]

Chrysa LPL I read somewhere due to their recklessness their parents took them out the will 🤷‍♀️

[@C.I366]

@@sarahhhhhhhh569 yes I found out after. But they inheritance would come in their hands in 30 years, why would they kill someone now to benefit in 30 years?

[@sarahhhhhhhh569]

Chrysa LPL thirty years is still a heck of a long time. They were in their twenties and this is a time where most people party and act reckless (money would help; I.e parties and cars) and by your thirties ur financially stable which they wouldn’t be unless they had the inheritance immediate . They were born rich and had no sense of struggle and waiting for that money means they would have had to go out and live like an average person until their fifties which is not ideal especially for rich people. But since their parents aren’t here I guess we can only speculate since they are unable to defend themselves

[@RevisitingMenendez]

@@sarahhhhhhhh569 I'd highly recommend watching the entire first trial. The "money" and "greed" theory was completely discredited. The brothers always had access to money and they thought they were out of the will many months before the shooting. It doesn't make any sense as a motive.

[@belindawalters377]

They didn't need life without...but bet spot of people don't kn Leslie had a case before there's where boy killed father an she got him off with abuse so she used her pay book that works...but will say he was a really strict dad

[@gloriagraz910]

Eric and Lyle s childhood Traumas were not made up stories. Their case had nothing to do with the case Leslie dealt with beforehand, and who knows maybe their stories were true in bothe cases, it might happen more frequently than you know about. But the second trial Was completely unfair for these boys, there was literally photographic evidence of their abuse which was forbidden by the judge to be shown in the second trial, only so they could convict them. They have been through so much, they deeply regretted it and would have never done it if their parents had not created this terrifying Situation in which they felt they had no other options left to save their own life. They served their time, they are no threat to anybody and really deserve to be freed after all.

[@user-tw6bj4xx1l]

They deserve a second chance they deserve another trial. And they certainly don't deserve life in prison

[@SarahSarah-rm5lq]

Free Eric and Lyle

[@annadembowska1160]

It's hard believe this tragedy happened unexpected

[@xeobelsxo8033]

Eric was beautiful

[@minaledwards8229]

did the new evidence result in a new trial?

[@1990vm]

So they found naked pictures of them taken by their father and said “ yup , this is normal” lol like what ???

[@unlimitedyou5857]

The sadness even The Judge cannot perform the proper judgement! How the punishment solved the domestic and sexual abuse. Their childhood was destroyed by their parents and life was punished by the Justice system...that's tortured.