Celite545

[@RobvanGils]

like to see the end result without the ethanol. must be super clean oil.

[@genericmainer]

Pro tip : instead of water just use 200 proof alcohol so you don’t have to wait for it to dry

[@genghischuan4886]

yeah Im thinking these folks doing video are amatures at best with the way they do things

[@maxtheyouth]

i wonder what grit to use , the 2 micron? or can i use whatever grit and add a 2 micro paper. im saying 2 micron because the DE is 4-5micron. i dont want to contaminate my oil

[@proz71ful19]

190 proof is essentially as pure as you can get. As soon as you crack the seal on a 200 proof, it’s absorbing moisture from the air

[@SetTheCurve]

@@proz71ful19unless you know that and prepare for it.

[@DROWXXI]

Have you guys noticed that carbon tends to grasp thca when washing for the regular in line filtration. Some test for our scrubbed & polished shatters are coming 27-34% while our unscrubbed extract will hold 72-80% potency. Any thoughts?

[@JuryDuty666]

curious about this and how much is being removed. how much testing has yielded these results?!?

[@sarahlarick3055]

Warm the tincture up first

[@sarahlarick3055]

Bbv offers a bleaching powder use this first 180° for 10 to 15 mins this will decarb with out the darkening it like it likes to do when you decarb fliter out the bleaching powder re run it thru the 545 and active chacoal... i just warmed the tincture the first time and that helped a lot but the potency was so high that when i mixed it with terps to make cartridges it crystalized in the carts... I tweaked the process with the bleaching powder now i have pale yellow clean carts that dont crystalize n they are way more fire than anything iv got from the store

[@nusultanelk]

Just scrube with anhydrous mgsu

[@philipcammarano6442]

@@sarahlarick3055 A LINK WOULD ROCK PLEASE!

[@ronwitek4539]

Would it have been wise to pout the carbon into the flask with the organic material and swirl it around

[@crucifyrobinhood]

uh, he did.

[@andremarcelinopinto622]

I LOVED YOUR VIDEO!!! thanks for sharing!!!

[@joelopez7492]

Does anyone know what type or size of fritted disk buchner is used for this?

[@gajananinamdar2620]

Was there any difference in the contents of the extract after you clarified using the process?

[@jasonmarosi3503]

We typically do this process if we need to winterize the material before distillation. To catch all the waxes. We have cleaner distillation runs with filtering. Cool fact. Celite 545 means 4.5 microns for reference.

[@gentiligiuliano7882]

Adding carbon directly to fluid and let it work overnight you can use much less activated carbon, if cost is critical

[@MatanuskaHIGH]

Don’t wanna leave charcoal in the mother liquor long. It has adverse effects

[@ignite_welding]

Could you theoretically not winterize and still do this process, removing the ethanol in a rotary evap, pouring the product onto parchment and into a vac oven to still retain stability? Or can you winterize and still end up with a stable more shatter like product. I understand that if i want to put into cartridge or syringes i need to dewax and winterize but what if i just want a cleaner shatter?

[@Jmarosii]

As long as the fat stays dissolved (not sub chilled) you can filter an extract with a fat content through Celite and Activated Charcoal yes.

[@hrjdjddjefhurjfhid8032]

Guy for BVV said we still get clean shutter If fat stays in product, anyone try to achieve that and get GOOD RESULTS? After, celite-carbon, no wenterization process, rotary avaporator(remove ethanol), vacuum owen. Anyone?!

[@dnnortheastseeds]

I was under the impression that the activated charcoal also removes some of the oil which contains thc/cbd.

[@joshsmith-uy5iw]

Whatever it removes you didn't want anyway.

[@danielpuig9476]

@@joshsmith-uy5iw what about the smell? I want that terpenes there bro

[@joshsmith-uy5iw]

@@danielpuig9476 no you don't. Not when winterizing and distilling. The whole point is to separate them. Please do a little more research on what you're talking about.

[@danielpuig9476]

​@@joshsmith-uy5iwthe point is to remove waxes, and chlorophyll, stay with clear yellowish and smelly oil! in destilación you just want to remove the ethanol! in winterization the waxes! with the activated charcoal, just the color, allegedly I don't want to separate terpenes, that is an other process with water, using flowers. And if you want to separate you don't just mix with charcoal like that, terpenes are expensive you don't want to throw them away. be humble kid! go to school!

[@joshsmith-uy5iw]

@@danielpuig9476 dude. Obviously you don't do this for a living. You go mix ethanol and try to keep any terps worth a damn after distilling it back haha You're good with Google but doesn't sound like you know your way around the front side of a roto or spd.

[@Jimothythe2nd]

About how much % of yield is lost?

[@crucifyrobinhood]

I'll chime in. Hardly anything is lost except for the tiny particulates and chlorophyll. The main loss is what the filter media absorbs and you can recoup that with a decent wash at the end of the run. Ethanol is cheap and evaporates nice. Use all you need.

[@MrBangtongket]

Do u need to heat up the carbon before the scrub ? What size of the celite 545 ? Even i filter thru the celite bed , the color still the same . I even use more celite than what u show in this video . Thanks !

[@PapaVikingCodes]

it works better when you do. There's another issue here: cannabinoid loss to carbon. You have to balance that with aggressive use of carbon.

[@mattsmith1568]

Brian Kenny I was wondering about that same issue recently and I had no luck finding any literature on the subject

[@sarahlarick3055]

You have to use the active charcole for color change the 545 just improves clarity

[@gsquad599]

Can you explain what the carbon is filtering out and what the celite545 is filtering out . I know it clarifying it. But I would like to the know the difference of whats being filtered

[@Jmarosii]

Carbon is used to remove chlorophyll from your extract. Chlorophyll will create unwanted chemical impurities and unwanted flavors in your material. Celite is used as a filter aid, and the carbon adheres to the Celite to filter out any carbon from your final solution. There are a lot of filter media out there! Let us know if you have specific questions about any of them.

[@toscataurus9319]

How often can I use this celite-carbon-mixture? Only one day/one or two filtering runs or even the next day or week? Thx!!

[@chrisgoldbach4450]

Which carbon do you buy on the website? Is there a good place for the filter flask and pump also?

[@Jmarosii]

@chris goldbach you want to use the BVV Activated Hardwood Carbon Decolorizing T1. For the vacuum pump, you can use any rotary vane pump. The flask and filter are found here: shopbvv.com/collections/filtration-equipment-systems/products/ceramic-buchner-funnel-kit

[@johndouglass3691]

Do you use a filter paper between the Celite and fritted disc?

[@Jmarosii]

John Douglass if it’s a fritted disc Buchner then no. If you don’t have a fritted disc then yes. In my video I had a fritted disc Buchner so no media will pass into the flask.

[@briancampbell5824]

@@Jmarosii Is this a fine, medium, or coarse fritted Buchner?

[@maxtheyouth]

@@Jmarosii exactly what im wondering, guessing its a 2 micron if De is 4-5

[@davidmcghee7696]

So many people post process with the extractor when they should be doing this. We calculated over 50% loss of THCA when doing this by extracting cold instead of post processing color out.

[@Jmarosii]

@davidmcghee7696 there is potential loss while performing any refined extraction. In your case you may have had the solvent in contact with the material for far too long. THCA can precipitate out of the solvent! Running multiple post filter setups to clean ethanol extraction could destroy all your terpenes. Ethanol vs hydrocarbon extractions are both widely used and both have their benefits per desired end result.

[@josephmcdonald777]

What's the best carbon mix to buy for industrial use?

[@Jmarosii]

@josephmcdonald it would depend on your preferences for what you would like mixed with the carbon. We have a wide range of options available, including carbon alone and various other media. Feel free to look through our website shopbvv.com or give us a call (331 281-0154) for more information.

[@calvincraig3224]

Do you think you could add the filter media into an RO filter if the RO filter is 5 microns?

[@Jmarosii]

Great question! You could use a RO filter to filter out the media and other particulates. The RO filter would need either a vacuum pull or a positive pressure push to get the solution through it. Feel free to give us a call at [phone] to speak with a tech.

[@STLUVNU]

What equipment are you using to actually clean the buchner funnel? I've ruined one (no flow even under vacuum), and another is now becoming slower and seems like the fritt is discolored. I've ordered a sonic cleaner that should work, but really would like to know what you use.

[@Jmarosii]

@STLUVNU Nice purchase of the Sonic cleaner! That is what we use to clean our glass pieces. You can run the funnel empty with clean ethanol to clean the fritted glass disc, but it will get clogged over time.

[@ethanestkowski1648]

Does any activated charcoal or Celite 545 get into the finished product? If so what methods would you use to filter out excess contaminates?

[@Bigray1993]

run it through a 1 micron filter

[@normandobinkier363]

The water when dry sets the filter cake?

[@PapaVikingCodes]

why not prime the filter aid with ethanol?

[@Jmarosii]

You totally can. Ethanol is super fast. I use either water or ethanol depending on the time frame

[@zelaniesariel4671]

Which Vacuum pump are u using here?

[@Jmarosii]

@zelanie Sariel the vacuum pump being used here is a basic rotary vane pump. i.e. BVV 4CFM 2 Stage

[@edwinfcd]

How many grams are in your alcohol?? (of: concentrate? or herb?)

[@Jmarosii]

@edwin fcd we recommend to use a 10:1 ratio. 10 parts of alcohol, 1 part concentrate.

[@apm4376]

I thought i was rude and messy with my equipment till i saw this video

[@crucifyrobinhood]

Lol, forget it. I work in my bathroom.

[@michaelbarnett2198]

Does this remove THCA or THC?

[@Starting-Over-Easy]

Neither.

[@fduane]

I would like the scientific explanation that thc(a) isnt captured.

[@PapaVikingCodes]

Yes. Some. Depending on medium used. Carbon will absorb everything to a degree.

[@okccitizen4400]

Will still keep most

[@siamland2691]

can i use Celite 700 ?

[@Joeystro32]

Can I filter bho through this or does it have to be alcohol?

[@Jmarosii]

You have to dilute the bho with alkanol to filter it.

[@Jmarosii]

200 proof ethanol works best 1 gallon is $59

[@Joeystro32]

@@Jmarosii I’m trying to ask if I can do a form of dewaxing with this filter media. Can I take cold butane straight from a open blast and filter through? Or can I use this in a closed loop filtration column?

[@stephenroldan5107]

​@@Joeystro32yes

[@moufidwehbe5130]

Hi there Guys, would this be considered dewaxing as well or not

[@Jmarosii]

No, this is done post dewaxing. You still need to perform the winterization, this is an excellent clarifying step, prior to roto evaporation.

[@moufidwehbe5130]

can this step be used for shatter as well

[@Jmarosii]

Moufid Wehbe No you can’t. shatter requires wax to stabilize. This process is really only used to clean the oil to prep it for the roto then distillation. You would have to test the idea with waxy oil to see what the outcome would be. The application is wrong but sometimes it works for some people’s process. We hear crazy ideas all the time. Dosent mean it’s wrong. Just not tried by us yet.

[@snookcandy2330]

Best Value Vacs can’t you put the filtered content in something like the extract source and get something fairly decent and close to shatter with an clear appearance?

[@aljoejoe1]

@@Jmarosii Can you run Crude Oil with 200 Proof Ethanol through the filter or is it only before Rotovaping?

[@southfloridawaterman1]

What size pump are you using?

[@Jmarosii]

The Chad a 3cfm single stage. Nothing fancy

[@Jmarosii]

A 3cfm single stage pump. Nothing fancy

[@regularross4453]

Lil pump

[@anatoliyrubanenko7277]

You have to make sure your filter medium is a perfect cylinder shape or the buchner won't be cleaning at full potential

[@devingonzales9999]

Sad you had to point that out

[@tycho8525]

Does this process filter out THCA?

[@stephenroldan5107]

No

[@area51r]

What is filter media?

[@Jmarosii]

@area51r filter media refers to the material or substance used in a filtration system to remove impurities or particles from a fluid or gas. It acts as the medium through which the filtration process occurs. These filter medias are similar to the medias used to purify your drinking water.

[@ltsgobrando]

5:06 you must go through ALOT of glass 😅. Microfractures are a thing my guy, and glass on glass is the very best way to get them. In short almost every type of "glass" whether it's good ol' silicon dioxide float, a quartz fusion, borosilicate, or even sintered aluminum oxide have a few key properties in common. Namely they are hard, perfectly elastic, have innumerable inclusions, and are brittle. Individually none of these are bad persay, but when combined they are horribly detrimental to glasses longevity... and the worst possible sinario is a glass on glass collision. With any collision there's obviously kinetic energy that has to be dissipated. For most materials is no issue; steel will ring like a bell or deform if hit hard enough, wood will flex and dent... but glass is kinda an ass about it. Molecularly it's a stubborn old man about it; it won't give an inch until it collapses. This is exasperated when glass meets glass- that energy has to go somewhere. The physical structure simply says "i ain't 'avin it", boots in the mud and arms crossed. The only place for dissipation is via sound, thermal, and radiation... unless the glasses integrity is overwhelmed. Now complete failure does take a fair amount of force, but on a microscopic level all those inclusions are perfect little spots for fracture nucleatiom to occur. Worse is that gass is perfectly elastic: a shockwave is formed and spreads monstrously quickly, but the surface will spring back pretty much instantly... so one little "tink" of glass on glass is actually more like a pair of nanosecond jackhammers firing into each other. Lastly the brittleness comes into play. That energy wants out so damn bad it doesn't care how it gets it, which leads to fractures. Sometimes even full-blown elections of material. So a tap or two won't bust much, but after a few weeks/months of accumulation and failure is inevitable. Just wanted to let ya know incase ya weren't aware. Figured I'd mention the what and the why. Much love and respect brosiff, keep being your stellar self! And thanks for the awesome content 😁 Further reading incase your interested/sources (not all, some was from memory): www.nature.com/articles/srep23720.pdf www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.osti.gov/pages/servlets/purl/1250403&ved=2ahUKEwj5yIaXkIv1AhXNFTQIHQQnAMQQFnoECCAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2Fn0kLN9PDqvOeh217S4-D

[@tycho8525]

Thanks for not offering a solution

[@ltsgobrando]

@@tycho8525 don't tap glass on glass 😁 Unless you ment for the specific situation I time stamped, if ya did then few things come to mind. 1) transfer the solution to a beaker so the carbon can be scooped in directly. 2) add an interface so you can still tap but without causing damage. A ring gasket on the funnel spout perhaps. Hell even a quick wrap of tape would work. 3) use a stir rod to poke it through. 4) connect the funnel and the flask and lift it by the neck of the flask, then wiggle it back and forth. 5) scoop with *EXTREME* precision. 6) connect the funnel and flack then set the flack on the counter top. Smack the counter right beside the flask with the flat of your hand. (or a book if your fanger be delicate) 7) use a large syringe to transfer the carbon. (has the bonus of no dust/spills. Its my preferred method when working with powders) 8) pray for devine intervention. 9) if its a non reactive substance use a plastic funnel. 10) don't add the carbon, just skip this optional step. I could keep going but I'm officially bored. Just remember that ya always got options holmie 🤙

[@chrisweatherley9587]

glass is a consumable. get over it.

[@mikenethery9418]

WTF!!!...lol.....I'll have to get my Funk and Wagnel...out of curiosity; what would be optimum vacumne pressure for removal of particulates from my undies at sea level?

[@danielpuig9476]

activated charcoal is known for catching odors, so, will it capture terpenes? resulted solutions is so clear...I'll be scared of do it...I need to see some yellow on it, unless its pure cabaninoids solved in there and I want some oily stuff

[@doylee469]

Daniel Puig yup, the clear makes me think the thc got leeched out

[@MatanuskaHIGH]

If you’re adding ethanol they will be lost during the distilling process when removing ethanol anyway🤷‍♂️

[@morteza067]

Does anyone know if the cannabinoids are destroyed in this method or the purity of the substance is preserved?

[@Jmarosii]

@mortezaebrahimi737 when ethanol gets a little too hot and bothered, it can cause some cannabinoid decarboxylation. But fear not! Cold ethanol extraction is the hero here. An observed increase in acidic cannabinoid concentrations indicates that cold ethanol extraction doesn’t play the villain by decarboxylating our precious cannabinoids1. So, keep it cool, my friend!

[@morteza067]

@@Jmarosii Thank you very much for your answer, dear friend. I have another question Regarding the color of the substance extracted after distillation, what should we do so that the color of the substance does not darken after a few days?

[@garydoherty7043]

What power vaccuum pump? Mine just wont pull

[@Jmarosii]

@garydoherty7043 maybe you have a screen/filter clogging too fast? You can use a 1/4HP rotary vane pump on a buchner funnel. In this video we used a 1HP vac pump.

[@RobvanGils]

Have a really old weed and my oil product is dark brown put it thrue activaded carbon and still dark brown could it be the old clohrofiel and it could be taken out with celite 545?

[@Jmarosii]

The Celite 545 can be used to filter out carbon that has been introduced, but it will not take out any color from the material by itself. I recommend a hot scrub of the material to take out additional chlorophyll color. Celite should be used beneath any powder in a filtration column or funnel just to keep the powders in place.

[@GoldThumbGardens]

@@Jmarosii Could you explain what you mean by a hot scrub?

[@mikemichaud5825]

@@GoldThumbGardens I don't think he can lol

[@johnty505]

I cant see clearly in the video but are you still putting a filter in the bottom of the buchner funnel? Or is it the fritted one just without a filter paper?

[@Jmarosii]

johnty fiveofive Im using a celite filter over a fritted disc no paper filters are being used

[@johnty505]

excellent thank you. i ordered a fritted one too. just double checking. phew!

[@andremarcelinopinto622]

What type of carbon are you using please?

[@Jmarosii]

Andre Marcelino Pinto www.bestvaluevacs.com/activated-charcoal-50-grams.html

[@Jmarosii]

www.bestvaluevacs.com/celiter-545-diatomaceous-earth-150g.html

[@Jmarosii]

Andre Marcelino Pinto I posted the links to exactly what I used.

[@andremarcelinopinto622]

thank you for reply me bro!

[@Pizzam4n]

@@Jmarosii Is the starting green solvent pre or post winterization? Thank you.

[@noid8814]

What I do is put the Ethanol and grass in the freezer overnight when you mix them together they come out yellow none of the green. Then there's no need to add all those silly chemicals you don't want in it. The ideal is to keep it natural not put all that garbage in it.

[@Jmarosii]

@noid8814 that is a fantastic operation procedure! When the initial extraction is done below -20 you will not extract the green chlorophyll to begin with. The filter aids used in this video along with the other filter medias we carry are all earth materials, we also use to clean up our daily drinking water.

[@jcenergy2493]

a little UV light and the green is gone... sunlight works fine. winterizing should be part of the filtering process......

[@klean8198]

Can you do a video for the color bleach?

[@foreveryoung8807]

Is this after winterising?

[@sarahlarick3055]

Yes its advanced polishing itll get you as close to distillate as you can get with out actually distilling

[@tokertalk9648]

will this work if i used iso 99 as my extraction solvent?

[@crucifyrobinhood]

Absolutely.

[@DROWXXI]

do a B80 video

[@sumtinez111]

What are you saturating with? Ethanol?

[@chrisweatherley9587]

he states reverse osmosis water

[@raymondjmcclain]

Activated carbon removes terpenes. Place solvent solution in sunlight on cool days or mornings to remove chlorophyll.

[@jacknicole1347]

HOW MANY MICRONS IS YOUR FRITTED GLASS FILTER FUNNEL?

[@RobvanGils]

gues it is 1 micron

[@SolarMillUSA]

omg why is the audio so low

[@mimoubadisi8316]

What is this

[@Jmarosii]

@mimou This video shows using filter media to clear up an Ethanol extract. Filter media used in our water purification process can be used to remove unwanted colors and particles from biomass extraction. Just as we don't want to drink dark water, we don't want to smoke dark extract. This video shows a simple process to add to your ethanol extraction to create a superior product.

[@vivichanning457]

Man I bought this product and my extract turned red

[@GoldThumbGardens]

Same here I wish they would offer more advice when you ask them about there products.

[@del4u270]

@@GoldThumbGardens try to choose another carbon, probably you need a hard wood charcoal or coconut.

[@GoldThumbGardens]

@@del4u270 Thank you for the tip.

[@d4rkblizz4rd0]

@@GoldThumbGardens red/pinkish color often happens when not using the proper metal for the tools. In general use plastic for carbon. ;)

[@GoldThumbGardens]

@@d4rkblizz4rd0 Could you elaborate on that?

[@generalingwer4341]

Please up ur audio cant hear videos.thanku.

[@Jmarosii]

@general ingwer this is an older video. SORRY! We have corrected audio issues in our more recent videos.

[@jayt8552]

Liquid goes in pump be careful will damage pump

[@TheBrander]

Add a gravity siphon

[@happyhemp1191]

Please teach me how

[@chrisgoldbach4450]

Mine is still dark. I have a hand pump.

[@Jmarosii]

@chris goldbach try using a "color bleach" media powder and more of it. Allow the solution to slowly pass through the media providing a stronger color strip.

[@miguelperezgonzalez5623]

nice clear result, but you lose cbd and thc at this process

[@MatanuskaHIGH]

Not enough to worry about.

[@crucifyrobinhood]

What matanuska high said, plus chlorophyll in the dab is frikkin' disgusting. I wouldn't use that green shit to start a campfire. Sometimes it just better to blow the BHO.

[@Sidebranches]

Sunlight will make it clear as water

[@xochipili1]

Use a big spoon

[@hank689.5]

Clearly that works well See what i did there

[@jamesnorris1380]

why aren't you using lab coat, gloves or a fumehood?

[@Jmarosii]

www.bestvaluevacs.com/celiter-545-diatomaceous-earth-150g.html

[@drpimp2234]

Best Value Vacs how do you purge the Celite 545?

[@hughbert4208]

What all does the ehtanol charcoal take away besides cloraphil do you lose the flavor of the bud using this prosses or even just using ethonal is there much flavor left like say bho or rosin

[@Jmarosii]

www.bestvaluevacs.com/activated-charcoal-50-grams.html

[@geekinhard343]

use clean product holey shit. When you get shitty product take it as a learning experience and try to do better next time. Dont just fucking run everything possible because you think you can "clean it out". Just learn how to make quality product or find someone who has it.

[@lar-cisleg9029]

Causin cancer I see,

[@errlshmirl3130]

Buckner eh lol