CFMOTO 450 MT | How Hard Can We Go Off-Road

[@hondaslex]

THIS!!! This is the best and honest review on KZbin I have seen so far. Fair "critism" on the bike. 90% of riders aren't capable to use it to the max, but 90% of the riders will enjoy this bike on trails/Offroad as it allows them (and me too) so much offroad experience versus a big Yamaha Tenere, Suzuki DE 800 or equivalent stuff. Kudos

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Thanks, we try!

[@oscr_zen]

Isnt Yamaha Tenere 700 just slightly heavier than this bike? I feel these bikes are almost the same.

[@hondaslex]

@@oscr_zen Yes, about 14 kg's lighter. But CF weight distribution is way lower than the T7. For normal sized people (around 1,74 m) the better option. Feeling so confident offroad due to the riding height.

[@roaminguero]

@@oscr_zenYes, and almost (or can be with some accessories) be 2x the price…

[@achmadrizkiramadhani1869]

Cf moto got 800 too tho

[@WorldBiker]

I'm beginning to think we shouldn't use the word "cheap" anymore. It implies poor quality. These are "very competitively priced" or "inexpensive" motorcycles that are changing expectations. I will probably, and gladly, have one of these in my garage for pottering around the hills of Greece.

[@paradoxworkshop4659]

Correctly priced.

[@mac22011964]

Spot on.

[@rexeverything100]

Efficiently manufactured that's what it mean these days

[@petrnemec7840]

Lets wait untill we hear from people after owning them for at least a year. I think the main difference (compared to the Japanese bikes for example) at this point is reliability, not things you see/feel after a day of riding. Also by buying these, you are literally supporting comunist regime in China.

[@WorldBiker]

@@petrnemec7840 started by a man called Lai Guogiang, who partnered with KTM, and then went public on the Shanghai stock exchange. Doesn't sound particularly communist to me. That and one would be very hard pressed indeed to find a motorcycle that did not have some parts made in China. Maybe it's time to get over the whole communist thing, all things considered.

[@paul.vanhout57]

Curious to the reaction from CFMoto when Chris gives them their bike back after a proper thrashing🤔. Outstanding, thorough review and entertaining as expected.

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

We've just taken it back, they loved it, still muddy from the ride...

[@r.j.bedore9884]

​@@BikeWorldTVshowThat actually says a lot about the company that they were glad you road it hard and actually tested it the way it was meant to be ridden. I was really looking forward to the KTM/Husqvarna 490/501 twin cylinder platform and had planned on buying the Svartpilen 501 when it came out. Now that KTM has canceled that line of bikes I'm exploring different options and this 450MT from cfmoto is starting to rise to the top of the list. I want to see what the new 450 offerings from BMW and Aprilia look like before I make a decision, but I will probably be buying one of these in the spring.

[@FirstClassBrian]

Learned so much from this video, well done Chris. Clear concise explanations and free of any prejudice. A good bike is a good bike, end of.

[@Sap7e87]

For the money, that's an amazing tool! Great review as always! Thanks!

[@michaelrogers897]

Your caveats are the kind of follow up questions always think in my head when someone says something like "it could use more power" but you adding the context of the price and what it is, really nice!

[@Tallretrodude]

Awesome bike. almost picked one up but I bought a 1997 funduro instead. Saved 7 grand and just as fun.

[@RocketMan_Moto]

Excellent review. Definitely one of the most impressive bikes I’ve ridden this year👍😊

[@TheSar]

I love my 450MT out here in Australia. Moved down from a 1050XT to something far more useable offroad. Great bike.

[@newbee1976]

Best test of MT 450 i've seen so far, keep up the good work.

[@ronaldsanpedro4338]

One of the best thing the cfmoto 450MT for it's price is the tubeless wire wheels.

[@martyn_g]

Stuck in the middle of nowhere, and you’ve dented the rim, or staked your tubeless tyre. What do you do?

[@SquidWithGear]

@@martyn_g Carry a spare tube, regardless of wheel construction

[@rsbharley4766]

Excellent honest review with no BS. Job well done mate, keep up the great work. Cheers

[@UNBIASEDCOMMENT]

very good unbias review. CFmoto 450 mt is a dope as you are saying. then it is.

[@rayholton5033]

I'm a track day /road sports bike rider for 30 years, never considered an adventure bike until this came along. For a little over 5k it's almost disposable. Get a couple of years out of it, riding green lanes ,I'm sold, getting one before the industry starts to complain and puts a stop on their sales in the UK 😂

[@Rayraysplums]

Good luck trying to get one in the uk

[@LeeTillbury]

I guess you work for CF Moto right? 30 years and you didn't know about cheap crap bikes that'll only last a couple years 😂😂

[@rayholton5033]

@LeeTillbury that's not what I said. Is it you knob , maybe read it again

[@Ride_XP]

So great to finally get your thoughts on this bike! I agree, I think this bike just represents such a leap in features and capability from the previous generation of ADVs in this class and price range that it's a bit tempting to nitpick and compare it to much more expensive ADVs. I think Diogo of Offroad Off Course hit the nail on the head when the called the suspension on this bike "a short blanket" - adjust it one way, it gets too short on the other end. This is one area I think the Himmy 450 doesn't get enough credit, suspension is non-adjustable but can cover a wider range of conditions comfortably.

[@divexplore21]

Fantastic test of this great wee bike, and the best man for the job to do it. Japanese manufacturers take note, these are the bikes we want. Great attention to detail. 👍

[@moto_vana]

Great review as always. I like when "mainstream" reviewers actually push the limits of "cheaper', "smaller" advs instead of just jerking off to the big expensive ones- and I am glad Bike World does it frequently! I would like to know your thoughts on how does it compare to the KTM 390 adventure and which one would you buy.

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Thanks, look out for some comparisons...

[@boyd46]

I’ve watched heaps of reviews on this bike and this was easily the best! Keep up the awesome work Bike World 👍

[@matthewharris3081]

Good job! Thank you for actually using the bike and afterwards giving your opinion with the reasoning behind your opinion! You earn a sub!

[@DaleFletcher-wq5qd]

Best no-none-sense style review seen to date on this bike. Thank you. Love to see a CF v. Himalayan back to back.

[@ukvamp]

love this kind of testing! awesome work guys!

[@pepestudiovideo]

Chris Northover + CFMoto 450MT… best show ever! Thanks for riding it. I just demo’ed a RE Himalayan 450cc. It’s so nice and fun but ergo pretty close to street. If I have the Himi 450, I would raise up the handlebar about 2” or more. Anyway, I have yet to test the CFMoto. Still waiting for them to arrive here in the West Coast of USA.

[@baz7]

That's the best review I've seen of any bike. Well done.

[@Michael_Shay]

One thing that I've learned is that the most capable bike offroad is the one you don't care about. That's not to say Chris doesn't care, obviously he wouldn't want to give this bike back all destroyed. It's just to say that you can learn more and push yourself more when the only thing that's preventing you from trying an obstacle is fear of hurting yourself not fear of breaking the bike. I almost always recommend a DRZ400, DR650, XR650L to new riders because they're cheap, parts are cheap, and they're tanks. I think one of the great things about these cheaper bikes is that you can abuse them without feeling bad and/or destroying your budget. I love my 701 Enduro but I do miss the parts cost on my DR650.

[@BrilliantWindowCleaners]

Your spot on, I started with a 16 yr old BMW F650GS and never once worried about dropping it. Broke every indicator, rear light not a panel or part without a scratch or dent but the old girl is still going.

[@seandunn3116]

I have fiddled with my suspension, and it responds very well to adjustment. Softening up the front end improves the ride a lot.

[@wabo1]

After I got mine, I did the suspesion setup first. It no longer bumps around all over the place and also never bottoms out o MX track as well. Made a 3 minute setup Video on my channel as well. This is just an awesome motorcycle which gives me a big smile every time I ride it on an offroad. I wished I could unmount the right side passenger peg as well, just to save mor weight.

[@schukop]

See Uncle Wang shop fou exhaust support without footpeg

[@scotwilson4169]

Great to see that jump at the end, like you said, no where near bottoming out like most adv bikes, took it like a champ

[@TheMisterNebo]

The low height is actually a MAJOR benefit for us - we bought two and the main reason we bought them, is the low seat height. Loving em!

[@_Makanko_]

Excited to see future comparisons

[@j0rss]

We need the Tuareg 660 review from Chris. we need it!!

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Coming soon!

[@j0rss]

@@BikeWorldTVshow yes!!!!!!! can't wait!

[@msims1250]

Excellent review! I really want one of these bikes. Hopefully we’ll start seeing them in my area of the U.S. soon.

[@Tubed-i5n]

Cool review, I just picked mine up a couple days ago. Smilin' ✌️😎

[@edxr250r]

Looks and sounds like a great bike Chris, with some fettling to the suspension and a bit of off-road prep it would be a great fun/sturdy adventure toy for very reasonable money. Love the exhaust note too which adds another dimension to the 450 class IMO. This appears to be a genuine scaled down T7 (in price and capacity) with all the good points that the T7 offers. Excellent review, fun to watch the skids, wheelies and jumps as always👍

[@paulkleanthous5482]

I really love Chris's reviews! I'd be happy to loan him by bikes for a review video.

[@7-v4z]

You get it you won't regret it...spec it up as you go, what a note..you're be happy

[@Raketemensch42]

It has some pretty creative seat height management options as well!

[@rideroll9609]

Kove 800X Pro next video please. I am looking to buy it next year. I would like to know your opinion. Thanks Chris

[@axellness]

Chris, any chance of a comparison video versus the Himi450? Thanks for the review!

[@MH-xd2nd]

Looks like a blast. It’s cheaper than the first year of depreciation on a top end Adventure bike!

[@deepjoyrides]

Great looking suit Lee & the bike looks great too. I've only ridden the tiger 1200 GT pro but not the rally 900. Sat on one in the shop but sadly both triumph in north Wales have closed now due to completely motorbikes going into administration. Staffs triumph is my nearest triumph dealership. The suit looks very comfortable. I'll get to an outlet & try one on. Keep up the good videos. If you want a guide around North Wales on the Tiger give me a shout 😁

[@ianlaing2411]

Probably CFMOTO's most important new bike release. This bike will most likely get a lot of takers based on good looks, features and value for money, It ticks a lot of boxes for new and experienced riders. Cheap capable bikes never looked so good.

[@urbanstrencan]

Another awesome video by the legend itself Chris 😊❤❤. CF Moto is doing really good job lately 😊 So Chris approved 😂😂😂

[@BeanieBiker_AutisticRider]

Been waiting months for mine, hopefully next month I'll get mine, for £5k absolutely worth it.

[@martinhughes9769]

Think it held up really well considering the conditions , enjoyable watch,

[@jamesonpace726]

Just as cool as expected & the bike is pretty good too....

[@santiagoleon5437]

Really an excellent review!

[@ShadowVonChadwick]

Nice, concise appraisal. Cheers from a Himie 450 owner. I did waver back and forth. 🤔

[@martythompson6509]

Agreed re bar position. I put lower bars and reversed the mounts to push the bars further forward on my transalp for the same reason.

[@carlopecci1155]

In off road con pneumatici quasi finiti... sei un grande!!!!

[@Al.j.Vasquez]

This man eats Ts for days. Bo' om CF Mo'o i' is Among o' ers. Awesome testing btw.

[@williammuir638]

Really impressive in every way. Must have closer look.😊

[@phillipchandler8862]

Top review mate👌👍

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Thanks!

[@joeblow5037]

Chris is the best

[@alexerioeduardo2844]

Impressive little bike. Yamaha, honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki pay attention!

[@carllachance7788]

Weirdly enough, I am looking between this, a transalp and maybe a tuareg (with an *). The sheer fact that I consider the 450 MT in this comparison shows it's incredible worth.

[@ogasi1798]

tbf it isn't worthy of being in the chat and i bet it is only in there because of hype and its cost - the tuareg is a beast off road and on and the specs make this look like the low grade bike that it is - in comparison of course, the TA is a beauty and will last forever, it will carry you on road in lush happiness and take some off road within reason - sorry but the CF is not in the same game, never mind the same league

[@marymindaenriquez2108]

As a Taureg 660 owner, my advice is to take an honest evaluation of where you will actually ride. If you are under 6’ tall and plan to ride serious off-road then choose this. The seat height difference, unless you are very tall or Chris Birch, will make the difference between a fun day or a miserable day. I am 5’7”, with 32” jeans inseam, and installed the 50mm lowering links on my Taureg, but it is still intimidating in the serious stuff. For less serious trails and fire lanes, the Taureg is a blast. On the highway, cruising at 95mph with the cruise control is sweet.

[@doug_EX]

Excellent review! Great job!

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

Thanks

[@peterrobert-e8b]

Great review looks fun and i have my radar fixed on one of these for my next ride

[@awatts222]

My two cents is this. Ive had a few "cheaper" ADV bikes and now I have an africa twin. It's literally amazing, and you get what you pay for.

[@awatts222]

Before someone says it. It would have ate that trail, all day. All week for that matter.

[@imranibnismail]

My favorite reviewer finally gets his hands on one of these hot-selling cakes.

[@AlienApe.]

'man fights off bush whilst riding a motorbike' Every teenage bikers dream...

[@DragonNova]

I think this will be a great bike with another couple of years development

[@TubbyTrialTeam]

Fair play on those tyres at Walters arena Hopefully it shakes up the bike market as prices are getting unobtainable for the majority of buyers.

[@michal_z]

Best review of this bike do far!❤ Cheers

[@robertfekete4827]

There is a question, how many km/mil is on that bike, because the suspension need to be break in as well, like the engine. And second thing I would love to see your test with proper tyres, and test tenere 700 vs cf moto . But good review.

[@janbehrend4291]

... a software update is available now to improve the throttle control in lower gears to smother reaction, already done on my 450MT...

[@cdilga]

First time I've actually seen someone properly get this thing stuck. I want to know the limits of this bike! Thanks for the review. Maybe those low crash bars do something after all. Was considering the high ones in case I dropped it

[@MM-xr6tz]

Stella review as always. What a bike for £5700, when ou can spend double on a push bike.

[@therealturbofanisme]

It sounds fantastic, like a t7 with an aftermarket exhaust. I want to try one! Not enough power for me to actually buy it but it'd be fun to ride

[@Jule81Bdx]

Cool n’ great review as usual with Chris. But now, the elephant in the room : how Chris would compare it to the beloved Himi 450 ?

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

@@Jule81Bdx head to head coming!

[@Sweens-o9l]

Himmy 450 all day.

[@alexlesage__]

Best reviews as always!

[@narek90]

Perfect review man, thank you!

[@jorgesobrinho1925]

Great video, thank you for sharing your experience

[@lewsdirtbikedays]

Chris, when are we gonna see you Thrashing a Kove Rally 450 dude? It's really got my attention. PS, if you end up in north Wales/Peaks, give us a shout, would love to show you about on the big daft bikes 🤘

[@anshusharma1523]

very entertaining, as always 👍🏼

[@denisbout7982]

thank you, pour ce reportage vraiment intéressant et complet 👍

[@fcalin21]

The best motorcycle on the market.

[@PM-nl4lx]

Simply brilliant video, thank you sir! Btw. since you have ridden both the Himalayan 450 and ghe 450 MT, do you prefer one over the other for gravel and back roads? Looking for my first offroady bike and can't decide between the two.

[@yamimk]

Hey Chris what about the Yamaha T7 remember you saying making it into a supermoto would love to see it

[@MKnife]

How about a group test against the Rieju 500 Aventura? And I still think you should do a long range test with the Rieju and its dual 20-liter fuel tanks.

[@Toxicdemon2]

Another great review !

[@P6_7R_Nick]

I want one of those Can't wait to see you do the same on the new 1300 GSA 😁

[@TheDualCruiser]

Such a great review!!!

[@Oskar_CII]

Muy buena review!! Se ve una moto espectacular para menos de 6.000€

[@steveball2307]

Reckon as time goes on there'll be plenty of scope for fiddling about and upgrading it too..

[@Davfon23]

Awesome thanks Chris

[@MTBrider26]

With so many being sold the question of longish term/high mileage reliability should be well and truly answered in 18 months to 2 years.

[@Rocketboy-qg6ts]

Wow same price as a Honda CRF300L. How’s it compare to a Tenere or KTM 890 Chris for day to day living? Would you pay the extra £5k for those?

[@stefanhansen5882]

Awesome to see you give another bike a good beating! And now the question I think a lot of people would like to hear your thoughts on: Is it better or worse than the Himalayan 450 in the dirt? Thanks!

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

@@stefanhansen5882 vid coming!

[@stefanhansen5882]

@@BikeWorldTVshow Awesome! Please showcase these two bikes in comparison to e.g. an EXC 500 and a T7, to make it clear to beginners what exactly is possible on an enduro bike which isn't possible on the other bikes, and what these bikes can do which the T7 cannot do. :)

[@tristanhaskins]

Apologies if everyone knows the answer - where is this test location? Fantastic review 🎉

[@orde_plongo.3.0]

270° parallel twin is not new.. China's moto such a benneli use it in their bunch of line production long time before CF did.. but i give their marketing team strategy a big applause for make it hype all around the world in the blink of the night

[@i_am_vengeance_kumar]

Awesome review 🎉

[@DaneGleesac0321]

Great review!

[@nevillegreg1]

And that's why these things are selling like hotcakes. It's a 6-8 weeks wait in Australia to get one and it's been like that since the first shipment arrived 5 or 6 months ago.

[@The10thManRules]

Great assessment. I was waiting for this after seeing what you did with the 450 Himalayan.

[@everydaybiker]

Hey, fantastic, as always. However. For me, It's not what the bike can cope with off road, it's about picking it up and getting going again in whatever situation you ran out of talent......

[@BikeWorldTVshow]

🤣Chris managed to pick it up and move it out of a rut really easily, plus walked it up that hill.

[@everydaybiker]

@BikeWorldTVshow good on him. Unfortunately, I'm not the man mountain chris is. I recently had to have help with my loded up 701, which is probably at least 40kg less weight...... however, I really had no business being where I was with that amount of luggage..

[@why3610]

Chinese metallurgy has been questionable for decades, for good reason. Chinese stainless that rusts to dust in a year, KTM Duke with chocolate cams, cast items made from the finest of 'monkey metal'. Brand new bikes may shine and feel tight, get a long termer or review a CFMOTO that has done a year or two.

[@joeblow5037]

This ☝....and that I have NO choice who makes my phone...but I do on my scoots. Being a Marine Vet, I just can't see financing the Government that released the China Flu. There's a reason their bikes cost less. (no such thing as a 'living' wage) But, party on Wayne. It's a free World. mostly PS...one of my customers works with metal Founderies worldwide. US Oilfilelds stopped accepting oilfield fittings from China, because as soon as the company rep walked out the door, they reverted to cheap quality and specs (as mentioned above) just my humble opinion

[@cavinmurray8601]

Looks like the best job ever..you lucky cu...❤

[@Porsche996driver]

You always have a great “come along” style that’s a lot of fun. I see a parallel in the value pricing of this sweet 450 ADV bike….. Has anyone ordered a new Chinese e-bike over the summer?! This then shouldn’t be a surprise. A nice new 24” Class 2 (US) pedal assist or throttle only, 40 mile range for $375 delivered - for my big 9yo son. The quality and components, everything works and display, grips and throttle & actuation, and more, can only describe it as feeling German!! Makes some sense as they learned a lot from VW, Audi, Siemens and -medical, BASF, they are capable at high spec manufacturing - and at these price points. While that’s great, I also ponder the impact of my money going to China - while they support Putin invading Ukraine. 🇺🇦 Putin and Xi (now lifetime premier) aggression causing unrest, let’s keep it real. I’ve enjoyed an off road trip with a pack of Chinese “GS guys” in central China. They actually appreciate our western culture deeply. They have their own dedications to Jefferson Memorial who was the U.S. 3rd president. So there’s quite a dichotomy with the state of relations. We’re just becoming so reliant on China, not sure if we might regret that in the future.

[@colinbowman8816]

For me, this bike misses the mark by around 100 lb, 3 inches of suspension travel, and 15 hp. But with the specs as is, it's perfectly capable of cruising on and offroad, and I bet a bunch of people will grab this bike and have great rides and adventures on it.

[@krede99]

One bike that's very similar is a 30 year old Kawasaki KLE500 - do you have an idea how those compare?

[@golddemon7]

Where in the country is this? Looks like a decent place to thrash a bike.