CGC is a bad business propped up by collectors who have money.
@artofbusiness122 ай бұрын
SAY!!…THAT!! LOUDER, FOR THE DEEP POCKET COLLECTORS IN THE BACK!!! 🔊🔊
@gorgeousgeorge51732 ай бұрын
It makes sense if you're selling AF 15 I guess. Even then, I'm not dropping AF 15 in the mail.
@horvathsogranfume6582 ай бұрын
dont forget Heritage Auctions
@NEO_Cards_Comics2 ай бұрын
Employee probably shipped to a friend 😂
@timhall53822 ай бұрын
HA! Sounds like business as usual at cgc.
@hustlecrowe94402 ай бұрын
I used to do shipping for a small business and we shipped FedEx. They sold items through retailers who would get orders and have us ship straight to their customer. Numerous times a year a retailer would realize they gave us a old/wrong address and need to redirect a package. Anyone with a FedEx shipping account has a direct number to a real human CS rep, they would flag the package to have a new label put on it to redirect the package to the correct address, it costs like $10 to do that and takes like 5 minutes on the phone.
@DumDumDugan19112 ай бұрын
Lucky bastard who got a free box of $5,000 in comics 😂
@jasonhut2 ай бұрын
The system is called "trust me, bro"
@Rush_yt12 ай бұрын
Those mofos lost one box that showed shipped to me and never made. Thank God it was only a ASM 129 and Hulk 180. But they cut a $105 check. I hate them.
@tough_book2 ай бұрын
It’s because your dad is head of PSA LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
@ComicBookInvestments2 ай бұрын
😆
@Fin-gj2th2 ай бұрын
As someone who is a General Contractor that orders materials from all parts of the nation. I would say about 90% of the time I go through the same shtick with these corporations. Especially the note taking and then rehashing the entire situation again. Being proactive on my end is the only way to see results. Its exhausting. Especially when i could be working in the field, but instead on the phone all day long.
@tensixtythreecomics2 ай бұрын
Hopefully they mark those cert numbers as stolen
@WarriorsforInfoTV2 ай бұрын
Lost into their personal vault.
@stephanholder62402 ай бұрын
Interesting that they shipped it to another customer and that person didn't return it
@donlashomb2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it'd be nice if we actually lived in a society where you could count on someone who received someone else's expensive items by mistake to actually do the right thing and lift a finger to return them to their owner. Absolutely ridiculous. As much as CGC is to blame here, the people who quietly accepted these books without saying a word are part of the story as well. SMH.
@horvathsogranfume6582 ай бұрын
@@donlashombthey could even be prosecuted for theft and mail fraud
@williammiles80212 ай бұрын
A nightmare.Things need to be better. When that business is that big everything should run smoothly.
@comicjourney2 ай бұрын
Peice of af advice for everyone who encounter things like this, always document the exact conversation with CGC with an immediate follow-up email including time day and person you spoke to. It helps expedite things
@brute_nm2 ай бұрын
Sounds like retaliation for your dad becoming head grader at PSA 😂 jk
@SonicDaEdgehog2 ай бұрын
I got into CGC books because it seemed like the "it" thing for graded books. I have since seen tons of major problems with CGC. Swapping, stealing, bending, losing, up-grading old books magically out of nowhere, etc etc. I own 1, yes only 1, CBCS graded book and to be honest... the slab is superior in my personal opinion... the 9.8 graded book looks better than some of the 9.8 books I own from CGC... I feel like a ton of rich collectors forced the resale market into the direction they wanted.... and a ton of sheep flocked to it... I am thinking - screw resale value, I am gonna go with CBCS for awhile and save the money on books with the same grade AND a better description on the label AND the better quality slab (with no bent books!) ......did I mention the CBCS inner well doesn't smash around like CGC inner wells??? Oh... that too. CGC is like a joke to us poor folk now. You rich people can keep your bent 9.8s and mislabeled books and swapped books, etc etc. 🤣
@CoreySosner2 ай бұрын
I have books I’ve collected since the early 70s I WILL NEVER SEND IN ONE BOOK NOT EVEN FOR FREE !!! I would consider if it was on-site but NO FEN WAY
@brucecree91702 ай бұрын
CGC list an entire box of my silver age Marvel grails that were hand delivered at a Shortboxed live con. $250,000 of books gone but insured for only ~$142,000. Hopefully will get a check from their under writer one day. 😢
@flynnryder61132 ай бұрын
They lost mine too, then compensated me for the value and like 6 months later found them and finally shipped them to me. They were there like 2 years total which especially sucked because I had gotten them signed at a convention.
@scottc64632 ай бұрын
Try PGX. I recently sent a few books to PGX and was very happy with the product. Nice, clean slabs, good pricing and friendly communications. A good change from CGC.
@yangor8260Ай бұрын
Sent Wolverine 1 limited in for anniversary signing. They put a the wrong book in the case for my book (label was correct, mines a NS, this wasn't). They can't find mine and has been a cluster to get taken care of. Dealt w the same customer service as CBI. So many calls, emails. Ridiculous
@scottjames95102 ай бұрын
PSA will be the way to go when it’s up and running
@mightycomicsandcollectibles2 ай бұрын
CGC insurance premiums must be through the roof 😂
@NicolaiStig2 ай бұрын
Naa, they are selfinsured...
@jmourgos55Ай бұрын
Crazy that the guy who received the books knew they were not his, should have sent them back to CGC or you. Such dishonesty!
@Voxclamantis2 ай бұрын
does CBCS lose books? So many horror stories about CGC. So glad they covered it.
@NicolaiStig2 ай бұрын
Ive had one comic be lost at CBCS. They did find it in the end, but took months to locate it.
@DaveyX12 ай бұрын
That’s my nightmare 😮 I have many Bronze Age key issues that I do want graded , but lil scared to send. 🤷🏻♂️
@Steampunk_Star_Raisin2 ай бұрын
I love your stories. You're always very entertaining and charming...
@lukemorley35402 ай бұрын
They’re very quick to charge you their fees !
@Dr.HUGENSTEIN2 ай бұрын
I’ve been done with CGC for years. I hope collectors wake up & smells the scam.
@phretbored2 ай бұрын
Well that sucks that this happened. Glad you got a resolution that per your description seems ok if you factor in the time and effort of selling the books. As far as CGC Customer Service helping in this kind of situation it's so lacking. The squeaky wheel gets the grease and you have to be your own advocate in some situations....and you are doing these things and it doesn't seem to help much. I feel your frustration. CGC needs a better way to handle situations like this. Sadly based on their track record of handling other CGC issues it probably won't happen anytime soon. Maybe if several peops from the collecting community could get hired at CGC they could do some fix it ops to make changes happen internally. Tthat's about the only thing I can think of that would be helpful.
@misteress80082 ай бұрын
You and your dad start your own grading company. Done. I'm sending my silver age keys as soon as you confirm.
@Dan-cy9hb2 ай бұрын
I empathize with you David. You should try dealing with them from Europe..........Personally, I can't wait for PSA to get online. CGC will go down like the Titanic.
@smorgascomics2 ай бұрын
Had this happened to 2 out of 3 in-house signature series i submitted. Got back 2 with an extra signature and a green lable in 9.2's for writing on the cover. I was super confused cause no way in hell would I submit an already signed book before the JSA merge. I'm pretty convinced i got a high grade on my original submission, and someone swapped it out, thinking I would be happy with the extra signature. Definitely some shady practices with no repercussions and an honor system in place. They gave me credit, which was also lame cause I dont want to keep submitting after that experience.
@robertbanning63932 ай бұрын
I was one of the og cgc dealers . Their customer service has always been shit.
@MrJsv6502 ай бұрын
Dude this box of comics is awesome thanks
@cowbelltv48652 ай бұрын
Ugh. They’re not great at their core business…
@larryhoover29652 ай бұрын
And yet people still insist on using CgC
@MIKEYC1232 ай бұрын
I sent in two silver age books to be pressed and graded that was in the first week of July it has been sitting at grading for 45 days with no movement I'm sure reversion jumped right back into those books LOL. I called cgc they say they have no control of when books will be graded. Lord have mercy learn my lesson everything will be fast tracked honestly didn't think it would take this long Leslie I got a submission back an eternals book that looks like it has Peyronie's disease WTF banana book😅😅😅
@4inThePink1inTheStink2 ай бұрын
Taking a chance allowing CGC to clean and press your book's! Fingers crossed they arrive undamaged and get a grade bump!
@comicjourney2 ай бұрын
Figures this would happen after I had you over for the interview 🤣🤣🤣
@jarredsmith91872 ай бұрын
Here is an idea people quiet send books to get graded cause it's a complete scam and waste of money
@bjnowak2 ай бұрын
Wow! I have an asm 1 6.0 signed by Stan with a cracked case …. And geez for me that’s a lot to lose.
@dansxmencomics2 ай бұрын
Ironically, it sounds like CGC losing the comics was the best case scenario
@VivalaRedSox2 ай бұрын
I sold an X-Men 1 for around 10k a few months ago using UPS Next Day Air fully insured. They sent the damn thing to Canada! This has never happened to me before. Of course it couldn't have been a crappy low value comic but no it was one of the most expensive comics I've sold. Thankfully a few days later the found it and finally delivered it to the customer. I think I'm done with the comic book business.
@ComicBookInvestments2 ай бұрын
Well at least it had a happy ending to your story
@brychology2 ай бұрын
Come for the analysis, stay for the rant!!! Thanks Dave!
@Dev003xАй бұрын
CGC doesn't and never will get any of my books. What little I do feel needs to be slabbed I will send to CBCS. Better cases and better service. I look at it as preserving the books.
@copetcapulin2 ай бұрын
You should call FedEx, they can help better.
@vertualvice2 ай бұрын
CGC has a terrible ticketing system, apparently.
@Encarte692 ай бұрын
The lesson to be learned here is that you and your brother needs to change your name to something unique like CHEWBACCA HEAVYFOOT!
@Voxclamantis2 ай бұрын
What regional accent do you have? On the east coast we say "inSURance" - but in your part of the country, they say "INSURance" I'm always curious about regional accents.
@saleens3302 ай бұрын
Definitely frustrating.
@JosephTaylor-jw6eu2 ай бұрын
I wish I had the same name as yours 😂😂😂
@herc200002 ай бұрын
Do you get a refund on the submission fees as well, as you don't get the graded books?
@tensixtythreecomics2 ай бұрын
It should tell you the notes for the label when you add book to submission. Further there should be a “request note” button for every submission.
@jasonhbush2 ай бұрын
CGC is sending a message to you Dave.
@tensixtythreecomics2 ай бұрын
Likely listed as a”write off”. Lol
@47comcom2 ай бұрын
Oof. I got lucky, they just found one of mine, after in person sub at HeroesCon almost 3 months ago.
@dotboydd37932 ай бұрын
Lot of people have stories with cgc and hearing this i hope psa is way better service
@horvathsogranfume6582 ай бұрын
im never sending a book to cgc
@feedmyeyes4928Ай бұрын
But yet they are still the 'gold standard' and everyone will continue to work with them regardless of their plethora or issues...All the 'influencers' and social media community members will continue to support them even though they are a trough of content to call them out on their sh*t....If folks want the industry to change, they need to push the change themselves and start the shift away...but it will never happen. the community will die on the hill that CGC sells for more, but that can shift as well by changing buyer and seller behavior...Let's keep calling out CGC for their issues then continue to send them more books right away...
@stevebradley48852 ай бұрын
I hope the returned your grading fees and return shipping too...Some store credit would be nice as a "Sorry Sir" to help with your outgoing shipping fees as well.
@Max-million2 ай бұрын
CGC ate my baby 🤪 Shocking, another anti-CGC video from Dave. PSA PSA PSA 😂
@mr.chandler95552 ай бұрын
But I heard this never happens to CGC and it only happens to CBCS!
@gorgeousgeorge51732 ай бұрын
So happy to stick to my raw books. You'd be surprised at what folks will pay for raw.
@thundergodd60862 ай бұрын
Damn, again??? This isn't the first time it happened to you. I understand why you have to send it to them since CGC gets the highest return for the value, but DAMN!!! It really is harsh on how CGC has a hold on the industry. My heart goes out to you, bruh. It really makes me hesitant to ever send books o them in the future. CBCS is no better since they had the same scandal a couple of years ago. What's a comic fan to do....🤔
@edwingeisslerjr.63712 ай бұрын
Did they refund you for the grading fees? Not sure if I missed that.
@tomahawkcomics8810Ай бұрын
Same thing happened to me.
@uscm223Ай бұрын
Lost. lol. Cmon man. Really!?
@RobertWeir2 ай бұрын
Totally should be all marked stolen .. but don’t know if it would make a difference.. bad juju for the receiver
@SuperpowerReview2 ай бұрын
CGC is DEAD!
@ChienandKun2 ай бұрын
Oh, moderns. So they were bent, anyway
@lifegood33222 ай бұрын
If they were modern books it might have worked out better for you? 😂
@DanQR52 ай бұрын
D you think it's intentional? They might have a grudge against you for helping PSA.
@rgi_comics2 ай бұрын
I’ve got 4 letters that can help you….CBCS. I know there is a disparity in value between CGC and CBCS, but this can change when the collective mind starts to realize that CBCS is, at a minimum, as good as CGC if not better. I know your dad worked there previously. What was his opinion?
@chrisbooth4782 ай бұрын
Again...lol. 😃🤣😂😁😀
@JediFarce2 ай бұрын
Could have been CBCS.
@mightycomicsandcollectibles2 ай бұрын
Again?
@curtiscamron2 ай бұрын
So much for your address being linked to your account I guess.
@leerogers53182 ай бұрын
When will comic people learn to not use CGC.
@Mike_oliver13132 ай бұрын
Stop telling other people how to collect. There is no wrong way to collect comics. And shame on you for trying to gatekeep comic collecting
@blitzkrieg63182 ай бұрын
Cbcs lost 2 of my books one was signed 252
@thrashingjedi722 ай бұрын
Plus you didnt have to sell or ship them so it was them selling them for you basically.cool
@MIKEYC1232 ай бұрын
Dave I'm sorry to hug up your Channel but I got to tell you I ordered some books from an auction in Indiana a farm auction I live in Florida I received the books they were rubber bands and enrolled each book had a auction sticker on it😅😅😅 you should have saw me trying to peel these stickers and talk about spine ticks😅😅😅 these are definitely readers thanks for keeping us informed
@williammedina86822 ай бұрын
And you will still send more books to CGC
@MarcSpectorComics2 ай бұрын
He's a dealer. Facts! Has an auction house and sells books weekly on his site. He has the voice and capital to pivot away from CGC and yet stays with the company to submit 100s of books monthly. You wants CBCS to make leaps in the market the large dealers have to pivot. I don't think his attitude would have been the same if they were silver and golden age books
@mythirdlife101Ай бұрын
Fed Ex sucks.
@junkdrunk31602 ай бұрын
Where is your CGC Banana Gate video???
@FlipNPageZ2 ай бұрын
Let us examine the facts. Are you actually surprised?
@jamesjordan30512 ай бұрын
So real question, why won’t you cover the bend gate? You and hundreds others know it’s real, you have a following man. How many collectors are there? You might could make a difference
@jamesjordan30512 ай бұрын
Cgc is a shell of what they were. Your dad and psa is a perfect connection, you can own that. But when something is wrong, and something “reliable” is not. Un F it man
@chriskuneman33102 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but CGC is just a fly by night operation. Any levels of professionalism are just an act to keep the operation going.
@stevencosta31482 ай бұрын
Not really ahead, you lost time everytime you called, all the aggravation and stress, yeah they paid you back, but the run around is a turn off
@ComicBookInvestmentsАй бұрын
ya it was annoying but at least they made it right by paying me out
@timothybrandt69112 ай бұрын
Every time I've used FedEx with cgc I had to show ID to sign for my cgc packages so FedEx definitely was at fault for delivery to someone not you.
@robertgarrett82152 ай бұрын
CGC is not nearly as bad as you video jockeys make them out to be. You just want people to watch your video. You,'re probably not even telling the truth.
@facts-q1e2 күн бұрын
He is, my book is lost/ stolen at cgc so I'm only getting a little back and it's work 1k