Layout planning with "mock ups" at Chadwick Model Railway | 141.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

As you may have noticed, I've now changed the release time to 5pm rather than 12 noon (UK times). I do hope that this hasn’t inconvenienced you. Regards Charlie

[@robinrye3964]

11 pm (NZ time) came and went with no Charlie video so I drifted off unfulfilled with your humour and wisdom and know how.....I now know my fix will be there first thing Saturday morning. I am struggling to find the words to describe your dedication and enthusiasm to produce with such regularity your videos. You have my thanks and appreciation for what you do.

[@Mustang00007]

Nope..anytime on Saturday is a good time to review your work Charlie.

[@oswestryroadtmd4850]

Not a problem I always watched them on catch up

[@chrislewis2262]

Nope cuz I'm on the other side of the lake so I don't see it till later. As long as I get to see it doesn't matter to me.

[@davespratt9533]

No problem Charlie, just glad to see the video's when you have time to release them, please keep up the good work.

[@thevagabond5966]

The change of time is OK. We are, of course our time is about 8 hours ahead of UK. I was just a bit worried when your post was not here at the usual time that you had decided you have had enough. I enjoy all your posts and have learnt a lot from you . . . most of which I still have to put into practice. Cheers - Chris

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Chris, it’s great to have you on board.

[@stanwhite5135]

Charlie, as usual I thoroughly enjoy your videos and like following along in your thought process.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Stan I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it mate. Regards Charlie

[@zodzod9378]

Lovely Charlie never mind to much when i can't sleep i put a vision in my mind and try it ! well done good show ! John from Chichester

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it John.

[@zodzod9378]

No worries Charlie have a good week or 2 !

[@jerryvanbruggen7398]

Greetings from the most remote city on the planet; Perth, Australia. I too will be retiring at Easter time and embarking on my model railroad journey. Of all the tutorials available to me on KZbin, I find The Chadwick Model Railway authored by Charlie to be the most informative, easiest to understand (mostly) and often most entertaining of them all. I will be taking great note of all the information Charlie has to offer when I commence my build. Thank you and I look forward to many more informational and entertaining videos.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Jerry, for such a heartwarming comment. Regards Charlie

[@DartsideScenics]

Great video Charlie and glad you got to visit South Devon Railway. It's a beautiful area and the route to Totnes alongside the River Dart takes some beating!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Top drawer memories DS.

[@dhdove]

9.45 Hells bells Charlie I nearly had kittens when you went to put your glasses back on with that hot knife in your hand! TonyS

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’ll have to rewatch it, I never noticed!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Wow, a close call!

[@szabados1980]

This corner really starts to take shape and it'll look very nice.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks GS, you’re too kind.

[@josefbuckland]

WOWSERS THATS STEEP INCLINE well done!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Josef, regards Charlie.

[@dkaustin98]

Charlie, great video. One of the recommended things to do with Woodland Scenic inclines and risers before attaching roadbed is to use a paper masking tape to lay across the top of those. Modelers have done that and claim that it has lasted for years. I have done it myself and the thin paper masking tape will not introduce any bumps into your incline. The tape keeps ballast from falling between the gaps and gives you more surface area to glue your roadbed to on the inclines.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks mate, great tip. Regards Charlie

[@jolliemark6294]

I like the way you go about figuring things out and present them. Just a good rule to find out if the grad is to steep is to stop the train on the gread a see if it starts moves from there, if not you are to steep is my feelings. Great video Charlie....thanks for sharing 😉

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you found it interesting JO.

[@Vman72MCS]

One option for the level crossing is once you have ground set and and at the correct height, use a long drill bit that will reach all the way through to the bottom. You then can install a drinking straw or hollowed tubing and run the wires through for the arms and signal lights to the bottom. Then you can attach the motors and circuit boards on the bottom of your layout. I did this to run my feeder wires using the same incline set. Another option it putting all your motors and circuit boards under your cutout card you made and that way there is easy access for trouble shooting. Great Videos! always enjoy them.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Great advice Jordan, many thanks.

[@chasc301]

I really enjoyed how you explained your thoughts as you ran through this whole process. The inclusion of inclines and the tracks running on different levels is a great addition to Chadwick. Mock ups and trial runs has to be the way to go.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks mate, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting.

[@michaelimpey1407]

Charlie, Thank you again for a great video. I love the planning and thought that you put in to your layout. The mock-up with styrene and cardboard is a great idea. Stay safe, cheers, Michael

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Michael, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.

[@andymacc]

Thanks Charlie. Great as always. Big on rural but, it matches the 5 lanes of track very well. Having used these incline kits in the past, found them to be just the ticket 🎟

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Andy I’m so pleased that we agree. Regards Charlie

[@mandbhomestead]

Charlie, the layout is really coming together. I like the way you put the mock ups in, that way you can really get the scene in your head. As always I pick up a truck or two. Thanks for sharing and stay safe. Ken

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Ken, I’m so pleased that you found it useful.

[@ricksalmon4916]

Great progress! Carry on!!!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Rick, regards Charlie

[@EtonieE25]

Well done Howard and the Williams family for looking after the old boy on his day out playing trains 😆😆

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

You’re too kind mate !!!!!

[@ianstrachan7668]

Haha...building from the back forwards. Simples! If only I'd decided to use that theorem, it'd have saved me hours!! All looking good Charlie. Thanks once again.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Ian, sorry that you didn’t do it that way. However, sometimes other things are much more fun!

[@hwebster5087]

Yet Another great video Charlie , like the 'mock up' idea never really thought about using that . Really happy you had a great day out with us at the South Devon Railway . Regards Howard

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

The pleasure was all mine Howard. Looking forward to joining you on the footplate. Regards Charlie

[@roystudds1944]

Wow! Some great comments here. I am amazed by your progress on this area and your imagination. Look forward to seeing what you decide on. Roy.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I must admit some comments have changed my planning somewhat.

[@ShaneRHDR]

Hi Charlie Great video as ever good to see the progress. I 100% agree about trying things out first to see what will work. I am now rebuilding my layout again and I left a track plan for a week and only yesterday after having the stuff out for 6 days saw a better way to align everything without cramping it in.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

It’s great when time sorts out problems Shane.

[@flyboy2610]

Great video, Charlie! Mock-ups really are helpful in deciding where to put things. I do like that bow string bridge! That particular one may be a bit wide for the area, but I do like the design! Remember rule #1: Your railroad, your rules.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Flyboy.

[@michaelbenton4117]

Charlie you are giving me so much to think about. Although my layout is smaller, 8 x 7. It is a joy to watch what you are doing on yours. Mick

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Mock ups, rather than cock ups Mick

[@lordflasheart6801]

"I need to build from the back forwards" If only I had thought of that....! Ah well, its all a learning curve! I purchased one of those cutting pens, it burned out quite quickly, but that was probably a case of tool abuse on my part. The only thing I would add, is that the fumes from cutting polystyrene in this way are extremely toxic and noxious. I resorted to wearing a mask and/or cutting outside. It really is pungent, as you mentioned. Another great video Charlie. All the best, Nige

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Nige, a very useful comment. Regards Charlie.

[@Synthematix]

Not just toxic mate, polystyrene is known to cause lung cancer.

[@chrislewis2262]

I use an adjustable box cutter blade for cutting foam gotta make sure it's sharp or it's a rough time.

[@alanswallow9033]

Hello from Christchurch New Zealand, I have one of these cutters to that failed, so I unscrewed the brass nut and the outer tube fell off and I found that the element circuit uses the tube to complete the circuit And this was broken so I measured how far into tube it went reassembled and squashed the end of the tube on to the element. Hey presto it lives again! Hope this helps!

[@lordflasheart6801]

@@alanswallow9033 Thanks very much. I will try that. Nige

[@Rule1ModelRailways]

Time to sit down with a beer in the comfy chair and watch another Chadwick video!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Good for you mate, put your feet up and relax. Regards Charlie

[@adamkerr4600]

Great session Charlie yes love the south devon railway to great model shop 🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Yes Adam, certainly a great day out

[@joshrussell4081]

Always staggered by thr detail in your layout, you are truly gifted, love your passion :)

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

You’re too kind Josh. Regards Charlie

[@graham33freeland59]

Brilliant as always Charlie.. I get so much inspiration watching your layout come together. I've just started the electrics on mine .

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

That’s great news Graham and good luck with your project.

[@patmccarthy1624]

"What could possibly go wrong?" Those are usually my famous last words before catastrophe! But for you, Charlie, looks like you have a solid plan for the upper level transition. It's always good to see how others work these things out. I tend to take forever making these plans; suppose I need to take Nike's advice - Just Do It! Thanks for the great video, as always!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Great advice Pat, just do it!

[@Gerd93.5]

I really like your videos. You're building a very beautiful layout there. The info is also really useful. Thanks for that.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks GP. Regards Charlie

[@stephenrushmer833]

Great video as always, wish I’d have seen this a when I started my layout a couple of years ago. Can’t wait for the next episode.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Stephen.

[@peterjhillier7659]

Thanks Charlie, looks great fun, looking forward to the next Installment.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Peter, regards Charlie

[@alsmith5604]

Great vid as always Charlie. I think this is going to be an interesting scenic corner when it's done!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Al, regards Charlie.

[@CalebsRailFilms]

You know it’s going to be a good arvo when Charlie is narrating one of his videos. Always thoroughly enjoyable, Charlie! Thanks for your efforts in every video you do. Love to have a mainline railway some day. I’m a more branch line man but I do love mainline running layouts. We have some exceptional British mainline running layouts here in South Australia. A few can be seen on my channel. You’re most welcome to check them out at anytime. Stay healthy and I look forward to the next one. Regards, Caleb

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks mate, it’s great to have you on board I will certainly check out your channel. Regards Charlie

[@Eliteerin]

Lovely bit of modelling and layout as always Charlie, always interesting to see what clever ideas you have

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks mate I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards Charlie

[@jedlahaye4765]

Very enjoyable video as usual Charlie, playing designer and engineer all in one go to achieve what you want, your imagination is great, thanks again for the inspiration

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

You’re most welcome Jed.

[@Teesbrough]

Excellent as always, Charlie. Fortuitously for me, my own layout progress is in lock step with yours, so all your product tips are very useful. For my two WS inclines I tested out their position and curves with tiny dabs of blu-tak, then placed some track and rolled a coach uphill and downhill to test for smooth running. I’ve not yet firmed up on backscenes as I want to integrate a complete townscape into the design with a reasonably natural looking undulating topography. That gives the headache of trying to plan in 3D of course!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that we are in unison Will. Good luck with your project mate. Regards Charlie.

[@lesfez1875]

Very good video Charlie, the scenic side is just as important as the trains themselves otherwise its a train set.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Never a truer word. Regards Charlie

[@thegrowler-blackwoodngauge]

Excellent as always - must pick up the spirit level as I've a second helix to build on my layout - so thanks for the tip Charlie. Euan

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

You’re most welcome Euan.

[@peterhealy9044]

Great video as usual Charlie. Sat at work watching in my bait time. Must get one of those polystyrene cutters, very handy. Cheers mate 👍

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Peter, the link should be in the show more tab. Regards Charlie

[@alanandammakingnewmemories2950]

your vlogs have been so good as I am just learning cheers Alan

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Welcome Alan, we are all still learning!

[@ChrisMarshallUS]

Looking forward to seeing the finished construction in that corner, was great to see the thought process that went into it and the mockup really does make sense.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Chris I’m so pleased that you found it interesting. Regards Charlie

[@going2thedogs]

The layout is starting to come together now Charlie.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I'm so pleased that you enjoyed it mate. Stay safe. Regards Charlie

[@JasperWest]

Hi Charlie, very nice video again! I think you have two options to work out the roads. In my opinion it makes more sense that roads follow the landscape rather then cutting trough it (espacially with secondary roads). So if you have a hill in front of the layout the road should go over or around it rather then with an expensive tunnel trough it. For the crossing with the railroad you can use a unguarded crossing because it's a low traffic line. Or build some prefeb wooden sheet(s) with de crossinggates attached to it that you can take out for installation and maintenance. Hope these ideas will help you make the right descision. Good luck with the rest of the construction and enjoy the hobby! Cheers Jasper

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Jasper, some excellent ideas. Regards Charlie

[@andrewtucker3070]

Another interesting video. My only thought is that the positioning of the two buildings parallel to the walls of the room tends to strongly link the scene to the room and so unnecessary make it look more model like than it needs to. Having the buildings at slightly different angles might reduce this effect. The main point of the video that mock ups allow one to get a better idea of what a layout will look like than just track plans and one’s imagination is well made.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

You’re dead right Andrew, I’m already rethinking that area.

[@bobhordern5139]

@@ChadwickModelRailway Great video. Agree with Andrew, it's important to hide the room corner not emphasize it. Moving the lines of the buildings around can enable clearer perspectives. A further thought, allowing the upper surface to fall away slightly towards the backscene can avoid those awkward baseboard/backscene meetings.

[@McManiak353]

Great video Charlie and more inspiration for starting my first layout. Regarding the bridge though I'd be tempted not to have one at all and just have metal railings fencing tbe industrial area off. That way it's accessed from off the layout and we are looking at it from the 'back yard'. Means no need for a high bridge or awkward crossing. Maybe have some maintenance stress coming up the side of the retaining wall to break things up a tad. Keep well

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

An excellent point mate, and I am still undecided.

[@brianwratten7300]

Hi Charlie, one option is, coming from the industrial area, curve the bridge to the right, take the road down a ramp and join the road to the station with a “Y” junction. This gives access to both the station and the industrial area. Constructing the bridge would be a challenge, but I am sure you could handle it! Regards Brian.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

An interesting option Brian, regards Charlie.

[@NicholassTrainChannel]

Nice video. You have some nice ideas going there Charlie looking forward to seeing how this turns out when finished.- Nicholas.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Nicholas I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it mate.

[@gregoryhale2202]

Very interesting video Charlie, will look forward to further progress in this section of your layout. Planning is the key to a successful outcome Cheers Greg

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Greg, but I’m already having second thoughts on the bridge. Regards Charlie

[@johnstephens649]

Great video Charlie. Can’t beat thinking time and trying out ideas before committing and building. Why is so often I then still have a better idea...!?

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Mock ups rather than cock ups!

[@HemelDownModelRailway]

Another great update, really like the idea that your putting together and I’m sure it will look great, look forward to seeing the next instalment, keep up the great work 🙂👍🏻👍🏻

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Mark, you’re far too kind mate. Regards Charlie

[@andrewstevenson5449]

Good stuff again, as usual, Charlie. Great idea on the mock ups. Not sure how ahead of the videos, Chadwick is, but here are a few comments/suggestions : 1) First bridge looked best - if it's only going to a couple of factory buildings, who would have paid for large and expensive arch bridges like the bow string bridge? Particularly as with a railway goods line going right past, it'd be quite likely that in the past the factory/ies would have had their own spur. (You could even model the remnants of that spur in the road surfaces outside the factory. 2) Not sure what looked like the stone-built (laser cut) building works alongside the brick (card) building. The laser cut building also looked to be a slightly larger scale than the card building, and really pulled the whole corner into the foreground (if you see what I mean). I'd guess it's actually the card building that is a bit underscale, which is probably what you want in the distance, which, together with its rather bleached appearance, would help increase the perspective. 3) Putting both the buildings up against the walls, seems to emphasise that it's a corner. Might be worth trying it with the brick (card) building *across* the angle of the corner, even though that would then need a bit kitbashing to get the roof(s) looking right. 4) I share Gary Long's (above/below) concerns that the land would have been there before the railway, and that the railway company wouldn't have excavated such a massive area, rather than just putting the lines through a cutting. If there were/had been sidings or a goods yard there, then that might explain why so much land was removed, but I rather suspect, the railway company would have put the sidings/yard somewhere cheaper. Or a combination of the two. 5) I would suggest doing a couple more mock ups, to test possibilities: a) a cutting for the lines coming out of the station b) bringing the raised area over the tracks to the front of the layout. Both, but especially b) would disguise the curse of most model railways: the steepish curves to get round the corner of a room. Might be a bit of compression from your camera lens that's emphasising the curves. I might be tempted to see how it might look if the land sloped down from the raised area in the corner to the river. 6) Your hand gesture for the bridge over the river suggested a humpback bridge. Would the main road into a station and the factories in the corner really go over a humpback bridge? (I'd better stop. Sorry, this has got a bit long. I don't mean to make it look like I'm laying into you, this list just sort of grew, as I re-watched the video and thought of things)

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

An excellent and well received comment Andrew. I will revisit this area in its entirety, and I think I need to work on the levels of the land to the left of my proposed bridge area first and see how that impacts on my proposed bridge. I already think that the bridge will be a much more cheaper more narrow bridge without the level crossing gates/barriers. Regards Charlie

[@alexmorgan2296]

Many thanks, yet again, for a most interesting video with many useful ideas and tips.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Alex, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.

[@alexmorgan2296]

@@ChadwickModelRailway You’ve probably been asked this before - and no doubt declined since it is quite an imposition! - but have you ever given/thought of giving private tuition for model railway building, wiring especially? I always find your videos instructive but there isn’t any real substitute for personal instruction.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Alex, can you email me please at [e-mail]

[@paulfaber7129]

Another great video Charlie. full of useful information and tips as always. I must agree that the cutting pen is a great little tool, just have to keep the fingers out of the way and make sure that the room is ventilated. I personally think that there is nothing wrong with the later release time. Keep up the good work Charlie looking forward to seeing how this project progresses. Paul

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Paul, for a very reassuring comment mate. Regards Charlie

[@ausfoodgarden]

For the curves, I like to use network conduit cover taped in the static areas to get a good idea. It's a small flat plastic item - don't know what it's called where you are. Sadly a lot of my old locos can't make such a gradient anyway. I set up some track on a gradually raised bit of thin plywood and try some of my weakest locos to get an idea of how far I can go. Nice update Charlie 👍

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Gerry, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it. Regards Charlie

[@cliveking9775]

Well thought out Charlie. I like that incline. I can’t wait to see the platforms in place with the bridge crossing to the industrial area..

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Clive, I’ve just got to sort out the face of the retaining wall and then I’ll start on the platforms. Regards Charlie

[@robh7592]

Hi Charlie, loving the progression being made. An idea for your level crossing would be one that is known as an Automatic Open Crossing Locally Monitored (AOCL) This consists of no barriers saving you barrier worries with motors etc The road uses flashing red lights as normal and the railway uses a white flashing light at the crossing, one either side depending on direction of travel to tell the driver the road stop lights are working and the driver then checks it is clear of any obstruction, that's what is meant by locally monitored, no signal box control required, movement of trains is sensed by a treadle prior to crossing and a reduction in speed board is given for trains on approach. Driver checks for flashing white light and an unobstructed crossing and cracks on at permitted speed and that's it, no fancy stuff or other signals needed and would suit the low speed road crossing your making. These crossings have been in use for many decades, slowly being upgraded to barriers but plenty still around. Probably find examples of the layout of such crossings online somewhere though happy to aid in signage and layout info

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Rob, I shall certainly check them out.

[@simonbradshaw3708]

Hi Charlie, another enjoyable and interesting video. I'm actually on holiday at the moment and visited the South Devon Railway for the first time. I would recommend visiting the railway to everyone as I met such friendly people on my visit. I'm looking to put a road and parking area around my station so will be interested to see how you tackle it.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you too had a great day out. A terrific example of a heritage railway.

[@garyoleary5480]

Great video Charlie! I like the techniques used for mocking up the industrial area. Can't wait to see your bridge solution. I have found that a wallboard saw and course sandpaper does not release that wonderful aroma of burnt styrene into the air. The saw also allows better control and the sandpaper on a block will smooth out the anomalies in the ramp surface.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Excellent tip Gary, we will need some good advice. Regards Charlie

[@barrywest8944]

Hi Charlie, well done for helping me, I was thinking of adding an elevated section myself.

[@Synthematix]

You can double the fiddleyard space with elevation

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Barry, regards Charlie.

[@richardkowalski9580]

great episode this week, may have an idea for you, you could have a none functioning point and a small section of track going into that industrial area, then put a fence and gate across it as if it used to be used but isnt any more.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Interesting point Richard, I shall look into it. Regards Charlie

[@bobainsworth5057]

I have so much hind sight that I should start walking backwards. I like the way you develop your scenes but I can't describe them ( you vision) at all like you. Nice job. I like the last bridge , it has more bulk and gives character to the whole corner . It also takes away the feeling that it is a corner.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Bob, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.

[@davidmorris8847]

Thanks for another excellent video Charlie! I'm guessing beyond fighting the pull of gravity when 'going down' there might need to be a speed restriction imposed on the incline curve - alternatively for a bit of an adventure you could use that new cutter to put a camber on the track bed. Now, there's a whole new world of mathematical calculation and cutting challenges to get your teeth in to in case life is otherwise a bit too dull 🤣. And, you'd make the rivet-counters so happy, they would just love to see that!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Advice that I shall certainly avoid David!

[@campingstoveman]

RE your level crossing, start with a thin piece of ply as your base, road, rail etc mount your crossing, driven by model aircraft servo's and open and close them using an electronic timer to open, wait, close and wait again all mounted under the board so that it can be installed complete and removed as one if necessary for manitenance. Godd video by the way.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks for the advice mate, very useful. Regards Charlie

[@markellis6413]

Another interesting video Charlie. My suggestion, fwiw, if you do put the warehouses in the corner, some old rails sunk in the ground outside them hinting at a former set of sidings that ran from the line going past would look good. Maybe the outline of a former wagon turntable like they have at Coal Drops Yard at King's Cross even.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I'm so pleased that you enjoyed it Mark and I shall certainly look into installing tracks in that area. Stay safe. Regards Charlie

[@Krislights1]

Woodland scenics recommend filling the gaps in that flexi-polystyrene stuff with that guey plaster of Paris chewed up toilet roll stuff. Oh dear, have I let the cat out the bag.. apart from PVA and cat litter.. I know Jenny Kiel’s trick with Impregnated Jayes cloth and PVA.. using bog roll and PVA has come in handy in the past. Like Mod-rock (Jarvis of Stockport) but different

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Interesting options Kris.

[@ewoodrailway]

Looking so very good , thanks for sharing

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks ER , regards Charlie.

[@otisjb]

I really like the look and idea of your industrial area so far. Just a thought about the bridge; if your intention is to have it as a service road to the warehouses you might want it as a single road and therefore a narrower bridge? Either way I’m sure it will look fab when finished!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

An excellent point Otis.

[@heritagejunction2184]

Hi Charlie After lots of trials and testing with inclines the one that really works is fir every 1" of rise it takes 30" in length for it to work faultlessly ,so for a height of 3" the incline needs to be 90" in length. Regards David P.s great video

[@leestoddart7014]

The 3% rise is the same as 3 in 100 or 1" rise in 33" travel. That's just slightly less steep than 1 in 30 - but to all intents and purposes they are equivalent.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Lee is spot on, HJ.

[@onnomulder9775]

Great video Charlie!!! Thanks again for sharing. Cheers Onno.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m glad you’re still enjoying my channel Onno, regards Charlie

[@SuperRobertwillis]

Thoroughly enjoyed that vlog Charlie no electrics my cup of tea 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤️

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Don’t worry, I’ll get you next time. Regards Charlie

[@ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio6932]

Excellent video Charlie, been doing a similar thing on my layout.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m pleased you found it interesting mate.

[@robot7759]

Hi Charlie, "What could possibly go wrong?", well... 😂 When using a hot wire cutter, you may want to try and work your way down. I find it gives so much more control. If you'd like to you might think of it as a chisel and a block of wood, at which end do you start? Great mock-up 👍 As for the type of bridge, it all depends on the destination & type of traffic you'd like to run on it? Maybe it's a bit more helpful to think about the destination first, and quite possibly the bridge will kind of sort itself out?

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Very useful comment Rob, regards Charlie

[@peterholmes5085]

Great video and excellent timing! Just what i needed to see today.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Peter, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting mate. Regards Charlie.

[@christopherallworth2514]

Inspiring and very instructive ~ as always, best thanks!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Chris, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting.

[@smileygoesfishing36]

a track sensor so has the train gets near the level crossing the gates close and the warning lights flash -- small 3-5mm tubes push though the incline for making the gates move up + down -- wooden blocks under the corner that would be better for supports that way you can put peg post in if you need to take the board off for any maintenance if needed

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m not too sure that you even need barriers. Regards Charlie

[@paulnewton737]

Great video as usual Charlie. I am having trouble visualising a level crossing where you are planning, it doesn't 'feel right' but further mock-ups may persuade me! I would have vehicular access to the courtyard in front of the factory building through the gap between them and a pedestrian footbridge to give access down to the lower roadway and station. You wouldn't than have a roadway across the bridge terminating in mid-air in the foreground. Whatever you do though I am sure you will make it work and look great. Look forward to the next instalment.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

An interesting observation Paul. The pedestrian bridge is an interesting point too.

[@martinworrall5888]

A very interesting and practical vlog, I like your way of thinking and my brain does not go into melt down like it does when you do the electrical stuff haha, well done Charlie 👍

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Martin, I’m pleased that it’s not all electrical mumbo jumbo!

[@martinworrall5888]

@@ChadwickModelRailway haha 😂👍

[@theGerry000]

Charlie I had a thought about the catch point at the end of the incline, in some cases this might have been a normal point with a short siding /sand drag taking up the blank space beside the doubleslip (1:49). This would ensure any runaways did not make it to the mainline but also did not foul the mainline one it had been arrested. I believe Darlington station still has one at the end of platform 1, though I doubt there is much sand in it these days. Thanks for the videos, they are great Gerry

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

An interesting point Gerry. Regards Charlie

[@peterainsworth8466]

Those inclines are the best woodland scenics product in my opinion. Most of their others have equivalents or better options from other manufacturers. But the inclines are great.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I couldn’t agree more Peter. Regards Charlie

[@kk_builds_]

Hi Charlie, awesome content, keep up the good work 👍🏻😊 myself I am more into Lego trains but I find your channel to be very entertaining! A point of feedback from my end would be that it seems a bit unrealistic to have a level crossing at the end of the bridge.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

A point that is very popular in the comments KK

[@IronHorseRailways]

Inclines have always been an uphill struggle for me... Sorry 😁 Well done with the incline, looks a job job mate 👍 The Freightliner depot sounds like a great idea though sir, would enjoy seeing that develop! Take care 👍

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Great comment IHR, regards Charlie.

[@IronHorseRailways]

@@ChadwickModelRailway I just saw my comment - no idea what happened there! Auto correct and rushing probably 😁👍

[@Krislights1]

Hi Charlie. Loving the work. Crossing gates.. look up Megapoints, and their servo system. Used for Points and signals, but watch the how-to video. Attaching them directly to the pivot of a crossing gate works the same as signals. Alternatively, barriers, with them underneath, with a bit of piano-wire of about 0.8 mil dia, should work. Had a thought about that bridge. How about the road bridge at the top of Crewe station throat? All a bit girder and concrete but does the whole span in One, so you get views underneath. I must get back to airbrushing 009 rolling stock now. All main station buildings fitted with LED lighting and interiors! Lots of little people painted with the thin end of a cocktail stick. All 200 of them🙃🚂K.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Great comment Kris and good luck with yours.

[@kenshores9900]

Only question is it looks like you have a tree in the middle of where the street would go. Great shout out l. So Charlie. Great video. Great ideas.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Ken, regards Charlie.

[@kenshores9900]

@@ChadwickModelRailway Like the comment on the flat earth! Like how you get the sense of elevation change.

[@toki_-_wartooth]

great video as always fella, fantastic looking layout in the making!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Jon, you’re too kind mate. Regards Charlie

[@dereknorth8192]

looking good charlie keep up the good work.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Derek.

[@bill1047]

Woodland Scenics appear to supply the best part of all my landscaping and they have something for everything. If you ever come across one of their wire-bound catalogues, you'll be amazed at the range of products they have and it also makes great reading (although it is heavy on the wrists).

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Bill, I’ll try and order one. Regards Charlie.

[@battlebat8087]

Hi, For the level crossing (and the industrial scene), perhaps build the whole piece as a slot in module that way it can be built easier and be removable for maintenance. Have some sort of connector for the power so it doesn't need to be rewired each time. When you add lighting to it it can all be self contained and controlled.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

A good tip LS. Regards Charlie

[@thehobbyistden3720]

Well done Charlie! Your layout is coming along nicely. I'm still waiting on track to mail in.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you found it interesting HD

[@alancope9962]

Love it Charlie, I'm with you, you can only go so far with drawings, you need a mock up to see if the space works. As to your crossing, if you use the arm type you might be able to run a control rod through to under the base board, and then use a servo, so the motor is below.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Alan and thanks for the tips too.

[@alancope9962]

@@ChadwickModelRailway I just thought it might work, a bit like points

[@goathlandstation-oogauge-e.l.r]

Another good video Charlie. I like seeing progression in a layout. It’s amazing how in the space of a couple of hours a small space can dramatically change. I was looking at the risers and think the Noch retaining wall you used the other side of the viaduct would look good along the length of your incline/decline. Just my opinion.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I had thought about using them John, however I thought I might try something different this time. Regards Charlie

[@goathlandstation-oogauge-e.l.r]

@@ChadwickModelRailway that’s very true. Always worth trying something new. Rule No.1 always applies no matter what anyone says. Your layout, your rules. I look forward to seeing how you go about it all

[@Pixie586]

Hi Charlie, very informative video as always. Liked the pen foam cutter and digital spirit level. I do think however the road bridge is a bit overkill for such a small industrial area. The road bridge seems more suited to heavy road traffic. Just my view. Susannah

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

A fair point Susannah. Regards Charlie.

[@andrewstephenson3594]

Hi Charlie, liked your video, picking up tips for lots of things to do and not to do. With the fill in on the corner behind the had you thought of sizing the card to cover the track bed well as the back corner? You could make a cut out where the level crossing is to be then you could have a drop in unit for the crossing, just in case it went faulty. Andrew

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Hi Andrew, you have raised an interesting option. Regards Charlie

[@marklaidlay6842]

I suggest the first bridge (plate girder?), they are more typical in urban areas. Also keep it relatively narrow if it's only for a small industrial area. Mark in Melbourne

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

You’re on the button Mark. Regards Charlie.

[@derekgholton6279]

Hi Charlie, I found the hot wire cutter is easier to use and control. The one I have is from the same manufacturer

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Derek. Regards Charlie

[@jeffjones6107]

Great video Charlie enjoyed your ideas for the layout 👍

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Jeff, it’s great to have you on-board mate. Regards Charlie

[@paulwilson3083]

Hello Charlie, as always I've enjoyed your video, you asked for suggestions on the level crossing, how about a manual gated crossing with a crossing keepers hut and ground frame with semaphore signals to protect the crossing, as it's away from the colour light main line it wouldn't look out of place. Thank you again Charlie for your helpful down to earth video.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

… and thanks for your useful comment too Paul.

[@chriscohlmeyer4735]

@@ChadwickModelRailway A couple of good ideas, a gated spur going into the area (dcc concepts surface mount point motor -"operated by the site guards"), a smaller industrial bridge across the tracks with guard shack to control access for lorries, an excuse to have the gates normally closed - employees park on the other side of the bridge checking in and out of the site through the guard shack. The industry? Some sort of operation that requires a high level of security.

[@alanhutchins4233]

Could you use that girder bridge to carry the freight line over the river? I think it would suit the freight train look. Great video by the way.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

You’re right Alan but I’m planning a longer one.

[@rtalbot87]

Hello Charlie, I have watched a lot of your videos, and they are all very interesting. In my case, this has been the best so far as my new deign relies on two dual mixed gauge inclines/declines in an awkward area. Depending on how long the hot pen is, I thought two batterns, loosely taped, each side of the proposed cut might be helpful in ensuring a straight cut. If you invert the 'spoiled' piece the 'hinging effect' will be in the wrong plane, i.e 3 degrees from vertical. Great work. Thanks again for all the tips.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you found it interesting RT. Regards Charlie