Challenger ADC Guide to Laning: 10 CS/m

[@fisher00769]

Saber: I want to keep it short this time Also Saber: 30 minutes long video Classic. Never change man, we love these videos

[@SonoLutzio]

Dude he has 1:30hours videos. Xd

[@ajx4]

My favorite line ever: "Alright, Ekko, best attack is what, I have no idea, it doesn't work right, he literally cannot play the game"

[@hiddenhero5749]

I just watched the other 10 cs/min, this timing is perfect!

[@jossetg.f.1277]

me too lol.

[@zacherylewis832]

"Best attack" is a great term I think it will really help me make proactive plays instead of just reactive

[@zyarbrooks4892]

Hey Saber, would love to see more of your own gameplay where you kinda narrate your thought process as you play. Would be awesome

[@kleh_]

You should do a video about what you should focus on building first (after mythic) in different scenarios, love your vids man

[@TheCrustiCroc]

An item guide would be soooo op

[@DERPINGUP]

Stopped by to say, the chat is straight fire this game. The commentary on how to farm or something was just a bonus

[@martinaarhusgregersen935]

Thanks again for always awesome content! What are our chances of an itemization guide? I think the current build diversity of many ADC champs means builds are more flexible than ever, and often something that can be make or break in a game; at least I think so. An example of building LDR as 2nd item instead of 5th comes to mind... 😬

[@miguelmalvina5200]

I build LDR second on Aphelios and its just too good, good enough to skip runaas second

[@bualdoot83]

Awesome. I just love the way you explain it. I’ve been trying so hard for the 10cs that I don’t want to back off because I’ll miss cs. I’ll have to remember that it’s best lane, not necessarily best cs or 10cs/min. It just makes sense the way you explain things and I can’t believe we don’t all just think that way.

[@rotsaastorrotsa]

These two videos teaching how to consistently get 10 cs/min were game changing for me. Came here to rewatch it, because this is the best guide ever made

[@legitcamel8298]

Great video, for sure saw some ways im my own gameplay to improve on surviving ganks when you are controlling the wave. One thing that felt missing from the video would maybe be how to do your best when you have the losing lane, from my perspective you had the winning lane from draft in all of your examples but in solo q that doesnt always happen, like both examples were ranged vs melee supports + cait out ranges every adc so you have all the control. what if you are like kaisa naut against cait karma? Maybe the example is too nuanced since this video is more about the broader concept of not getting killed by ganks or engage and keeping high cs. But maybe a guide on how to lose lane gracefully or absorb the pressure from strong early game bot lanes would be great, how to keep 10cs/m when you dont have ranged advantage. Overall great video, love this kind of content.

[@j.o.5957]

Bro, do you have any idea how valuable these videos are? Wanted to learn ez, someone recommended you on reddit and bam, highest value adc coaching on youtube. Love it

[@kazziodex9561]

The blitz in the second game, in his late game, you could really see him falling off, mechanically, after the agony from the laning phase ..

[@gabohXD]

Hey, do you have a video showing how to punish low elo high aggressive players? Those who just try to engage every time and lose minions. I'm low elo myself and I don't have lots of time to work on my micro, I mean is not that I'm totally bad, just not AS good as people who play their champions 4 hours every day.

[@NullExotic]

Make sure you farm well auto them and fade back keep the wave on your side so you can't be run down while the fight you in your wave and you'll chunk them down over time even if you don't kill them attrition will take place and you'll win

[@RemyEuler]

I think a video on how to form the habits would be great! I know what to work on, and often I sit in Practice Tool (eg. looking at the map between cs), but it doesn't stick into an actual game.

[@michaelyang838]

Hey saber, I would like an in depth explanation on base timing. For example context you are on an adc with low push power vayne ez let’s say. You are farming under tower. Your jungler comes in and helped you guys kill their bot. I’ve noticed that it is consistently impossible to push in the wave all the way, almost always leading to me losing cs. There must be a better play in these scenarios right?

[@sevinthisan8410]

I was looking for a better explanation all over youtube. Thanks for the video. Also hope you make a video about 2v2 in laning phase.

[@brandon.d]

He has a lot of 2v2 concepts for laning phase

[@sonnyfawkeye]

I have been waiting for this! Great as always

[@rowanevans-lampa9273]

I love your content! And I know it's definitely a lot more difficult than it looks, but commentaries would be fun/educational to watch, just explaining the thought process of why you do what you do. It would help with helping understand nuanced gameplay more, right?

[@Dennis-cl8dh]

love the coaching videos! Definitely my favorite bot lane streamer!

[@khalylsauls5353]

Int to carry series or vid. Had several games today where team wouldn’t stop team fighting blind in jg after Top lane teemo fed Cho 7 kills pre 10. I feel like it was a dodge but I wasn’t paying attention in champ select smh GREAT VID!!

[@KeiKunDesu]

I would love a video about different item build sets and paths when versing against specific team comps as an ADC. I feel like this should help people from every level of elo

[@AngeloWindblow]

Smaller videos are a good thing, because they are more accessible and appealing for a greater public, also you can retain content for more videos.

[@SonoLutzio]

I really need those how to prevent 2v2 inting. That is what holds me to reach diamond imo, poor laning. Any link???

[@robertocruz7482]

youre amazing Saber, im gonna use it now

[@CrossBreedTacoHD]

Any videos for what to do as an adc once laning phase is over in regards to catching waves of minions. Should you always prio mid by default? Is going bot or top fine if you have teammates there looking at the respective objectives? What if your teammates refuse to leave mid? Do you risk going bot to catch waves, usually being to far away from objectives/teamfights and often being in unfavorable 1v1s?

[@rrbocala652]

Saber pls do item guide..i haven't played league in a while im so confused on what to buy

[@hithereimsty]

Personally, I am struggling hard on lane, when dealing with enchanter supports. Against hard engagers I believe it's relatively straightforward to identify their threats, but against enchanters I often just get poked down. Should I embrace the trades initiated by the opponents by reaggressing, or should I have a more passive approach? Would love to see a video regarding bot lane 2v2 dynamics. Coming from a player, who joined league in S10, currently silver 2

[@NesQuickk123]

it all depends on the adc matchup and support matchup, what you have and enemies have, if you have engager and they have enchanter then you should be all ining without getting poked, otherway around you should poke and disengage if you get engaged on by engage support. It reeeeaaaaally depends on the matchups

[@toddnames5386]

Finally after weeks of waiting it’s here

[@MewSeeko]

PERFECT TIMING IVE GOT AN EXAM TOMORROW

[@caen-un9cw]

dont study for exam league is eternal

[@mattixhq6751]

I needed this video too xD great content saber :)

[@Rhyhmx]

Im probably super late on this, but what's the default when their best attack is pretty much unbeatable? Do we just call for the jungler to help with vision so we can turtle more safely until Flash is off CD? For example they have Leona, Jhin, J4 and we dont have flash so basically you would need to do the moves but even then you gonna get caught one way or another.

[@invokegaming272]

Can you do a video of how to carry losing games as bot lane? Been having some trouble with games that get out of hand too quickly.

[@Grebdivh]

Really Nice video, I am enjoying your content! Maybe a video where you breakdown your top 3 champion dmg ideas, could be an idea?

[@johnhatziioannou2409]

if the enemy team doesnt have full tanks i prefer shieldbow -> stormrazor -> rapidfire -> ie/ldr on caitlyn, what do you think about this build?

[@Goondius]

I do understand the poking support to negate their best attack, but what about poking the adc so he has to base/can't go up to farm. Or support/adc gets engaged and you counterengage on their adc instead ofsupport?

[@nathou1711]

Do you manage availability of subtitle? Sometimes they are not and my english sucks so it's lot harder to understand all . I mean autaumatically generated subtitle are enough. Anyway thanks for your advices french caitlyn streamers can't compete

[@douwemusic]

At 9:38, wouldn't it technically better to try to build a 2-wave crash right in front of their face so you don't lose any minions on your base afterwards?

[@NinjaKiller117]

Will you do a video about the returning tank meta with Mundo rework/item changes?

[@BenceAndreasSlajher]

I've learned something in this video, thank you :)

[@kauno99]

Hi Saber, do you think, as an Diamond II ADC i know how to play weak-side bottom, thats not the case my supports, often they not, they just cant stop taking freedmg when they try to do something without jungler, and that lead to he dying and leaving me in a 2v1 situation with potential dive, so usually i try to defend the dive the best i can and if I feel i cant defend dive for myself i back up and leave the wave alone, then i go to mid-game with a 15-25 cs disadvantage and about half a level of exp down, my question is, ¿does that mean that I played a poor laning phase?

[@timeofsolace9200]

Love the content! Very helpful!

[@jordidewaard2937]

"I landed today" "nice go back" XD

[@leprechaunh8red362]

I am definitely inting 2v2 Imma go watch some laning coaching vids

[@leprechaunh8red362]

Update: died to Zac gang 3x as ezreal even though I knew it was coming. E cast time is a thing sadge

[@quinn5851]

Yes I did learn. Thank you

[@tonguekisser89]

id love a video on laning phase engaging. when do i follow on a support setup and when do i not? also, on how to play depending on my adc (long vs short range, burst vs. poke or neither) also for this vid: when you flashed to avoid a gank, how do you lane with no summoners afterwards?

[@kevin15535]

A concept from one of your past videos was to 'aim for ADC' if you can. Is this a mindset you still apply? It contrasts the "play for their best attack" mindset as shown with the braum and blitzcrank examples.

[@methandtopology]

That's for all ins, this is for poke. We poke support down, hit adc in all ins

[@kevin15535]

@@methandtopology thank you, you're right and now all the pieces have lined up >:D

[@krystiankowalski8359]

I always try to play like that. Farming simulator, only abusing enemy potential mistakes and oversteps. But then I'm always also flamed by support why i don't try to force more fights in lane if we can 2v2. I just feel like outcome of these fights are too random, because someone always can misplay and all cs advantage is gone by that. Is there middleground of this or just CS>forcing fights?

[@trevorthomason9961]

You commentating a 2x laning phase is great content more please.

[@BeaDak]

I would like a guide on itemazation... even though it might be a very braod subject. But something like how to figure out what to build. I default a lot into a single build and that is probably hurting me a lot

[@平和主義者-Paci]

Really nice, and useful video!

[@grimmsworth1677]

Hey hey saber, can you make a video about key binds and settings?

[@FabioRTA]

what would you do if for example, mid veigar roams bot with jungler but your team ignores leaving bot in a 4v2 situation. We can literally see them coming on the map but the team just afk push or jungle farm either because they are scared to follow or what ever reason. I feel frustrated because i only have 2 options, die to a 4v2 dive or leave the tower and let them 4 man blow the tower before 8-10 min match. This happens a lot in my games. This method truly ruins my early game , then it's hard to farm and no one really tries to swap lanes at all ( most of the time the support just goes mid) ending up alone farming bot without tower relying only on trinket and 1 pink ward. (plat elo)

[@FabioRTA]

@@Gofex1337 that doesn't work, while im freezing they push mid tower resulting in a even bigger loss

[@xFSNSaber]

leave the tower your team will counter topside

[@linuxerohim1758]

yes pls, i want a lanning cs guide too

[@Triev667]

great content mate

[@Freakattaker]

27:00 I can't stop reading the chat lmao breh; literally didn't pay attention to the next min of info

[@Stedyyyy]

love your voice

[@น้อยยิ้มนิด]

Dmg pattern of every adc champ pls

[@JESA-iq3cr]

So this involves mostly catch or all in scenarios. How do you prepare for heavy poke botlanes and play it? Best wishes

[@David-vz4yk]

Dorans shield

[@insertgenericnamehere7774]

Remember to like & subscribe, hit that bell and leave a comment for the algo.

[@burggraf738]

Thank you so much for this

[@manuelvasquez9935]

Good shit, saber

[@AlexKillzMC]

Wow saber tysm for this vid.

[@mehranfarsi2193]

Helpful video 💪💪

[@LucasGomes-gt8cs]

Great tutorial!

[@muzafferpolat6843]

Do a varus laning guide PLEEASSE

[@k.theindifferent7931]

thank you

[@varun1782]

teach us specific matchups// situational items :o

[@itzajriveratorres3220]

TY for the vid!

[@imitfdx9632]

is that season 10

[@elaborateuprising7485]

Yes

[@vukvukadinovic7953]

Anyone saw that gale force to kill minnion?

[@elosy_the_thoughtless]

Duuuude this footage is old lol Edit: at least the first 5 minutes Also, the fact that this video is 30 min long made me watch it, 2h is too much

[@EzequielLBarnes]

great!

[@JasperHayward_GG]

Bro, great video, but I hope you lowered the gain on your mic in the past year because that peaking is hard to listen to

[@wimter9076]

Could you please do a Caitlyn Skin Tier List :D

[@kelvinronaldchua7410]

do Saber a solid and don't skip ads

[@warcryertenchu8581]

Sublime best!! :P

[@RisingMooon]

so you're supposed to always push at the start of a game? interesting. I always tended to just last hit without considering pushing, thinking that's what you were supposed to do

[@captainkielbasa5471]

liked for sublime text

[@mattdillon2508]

Ironically the 2vs2 inting is more comon than dying to ganks or tp dives xD

[@CrossBreedTacoHD]

A problem I have, and I think a problem a lot of people can relate to, is that we get baited by teammates because we don't want them to flame/int/giveup on the game once their dumb play ultimately fails and you weren't there to fail with them.

[@gabrielmartins2235]

pls my english no is very good, place with text captioned option from youtube

[@dunyele]

Gutes Video

[@rapaern2716]

UPLOADED 5 SECONDS AGO ITS A SIGN

[@cn9595]

Lmao the braum @5 min Saber im miserable Then why did you pick braum Thats why i picked braum Ah

[@gubbebubbe4942]

early squadddddddd

[@georgeyau92121]

2v2 inters unite!

[@Potato-wo7ho]

Hi saber

[@ether6521]

Lol