Chaos Walking - How to Make an Unreleasable Movie | Anatomy Of A Failure

[@ricardojurado9121]

Another week of Filmento talking about a high profile Hollywood movie that I've never heard about until it appears in Anatomy of a Faliure

[@DavidRivera-qb1un]

That perfectly sums it up

[@Hadras7094]

Accurate

[@Lotsolov4u]

Seeing the posters at my theater was exciting...but yeah it was not meant to be

[@VVVU2x]

Ikr it's funny how indie and anime movies seem more popular than Hollywood stuff like this

[@Mike14264]

Yep. Pretty much how I feel about it.

[@heemjefee6889]

"A broken leg remains broken even after you give it a nice tan." I'm going to say this from now on.

[@jlupus8804]

“A turd remains a turd even after a nice polish”

[@Ramsey276one]

@@jlupus8804 “...and gold plating. ...and fancy display case. ...and millions in advertising...” XD

[@b3nl555]

"Engravings... Give you no tactical advantage whatsoever"

[@Grasslander]

A shack remains a shack even if you add a drawbridge.

[@greytroll1632]

@@jlupus8804 lmao

[@hawkshot867]

Dude imagine having Mads Mikkelsen and Tom Holland in the same movie and managing to completely drop the ball.

[@insertchannelname6875]

The sequels were a dumpster fire and far from home was good and nothing more at best Edit: everyone recently has been dropping the ball with them recently

[@sashimi879]

@@insertchannelname6875 they're mediocre at best

[@Vekcrazah]

@@insertchannelname6875 Which doesn't really disprove OP's point. Two experienced actors part of two different massive franchises, even if they're mediocre, should make the movie more than mediocre at best.

[@insertchannelname6875]

@@Vekcrazah it was sort of meant to help the point, my bad

[@honeyst6133]

It has nothing to do with actors has everything to do of whos writing who’s directing and editing the movie who cares about actors they’re just following the story who made the story is what matters

[@DendyJungle]

From IMDb: “Tom Holland missed the Avengers: Endgame (2019) premiere because he was busy doing reshoots for Chaos Walking.” Missing the opening of your biggest movie ever to do your worst. That’s why ppl need to pace themselves

[@voidling2632]

Tom Holland lost a potential role in the movie "1917" because of this hot garbage tin can.

[@anjalib2758]

Tom seems to regret signing for this movie. He didn't take part in the promotion of the movie and he always dodges the questions in interviews about it. He also said he hasn't watched the whole movie yet.

[@krisjohnston5569]

The video itself points out this movie had 2 years worth of re-shoots, I don't think pacing himself had anything to do with it

[@pheenmachine]

@@krisjohnston5569 what did they re shoot? The whole movie ?

[@yourmomskitchen3236]

@@pheenmachine 😂😂😭😭

[@pinkyboy8576]

This movie is basically: When you have a very good idea to write something down but suddenly when you execute it, you just forgot all the plot, details and concept.

[@zqueen1229]

Lol

[@victorj9582]

Specifically when you thought of the idea and couldn’t reach the pen and paper in time.

[@angelareele858]

Nahh...... Its just not that good an idea... The Ricky Gervais film( the invention of lying) was a cerebral comedy..... Not an Action movie. It was set in a similar world ; where people have no (hidden)inner dialogue........it can only work as a comedy.

[@ProtoNoah]

you know this is based on a book right?

[@smikenickleby9839]

Chaos Walking: ADHD unleashed

[@BlackSteelRaven]

Oh dude, that world is basically a CoD chat when a girl's voice is heard. "Girl?!" "Is that a girl?" "Wait there's a girl here?"

[@KeithFraser82]

My mind went to the ending of Inside Out when Riley meets a boy and the emotion-people inside his head are panicking while an alarm blares "GIRL! GIRL!"

[@the7thseven873]

😂

[@joeyralston3773]

It’s actually not a fedora Fitz, it’s a trilby

[@lardlover3730]

Lol

[@lardlover3730]

@@KeithFraser82 remember that scene with the “puberty” button? That joke made much more sense once I reached 7th grade lol.

[@bloodrunsclear]

There's a difference between 'High Concept' and 'Concepts We Came Up With When We Were High'

[@Ramsey276one]

Painfully accurate

[@vehzee]

well it's a book trilogy so...

[@atharvadeshpande4749]

Nah man the Book trilogy is Spectacular

[@deedee2455]

So true 🤣

[@Zaz5y]

The concept in this movie is actually great proven by the books, the execution is just bad which Filmento even says.

[@douglasbadger9049]

This film feels like when you're playing with your friends as a kid, and each kid wants to add something to the game story

[@fuzzykoala6168]

Yea the oldest suggests open mind reading, the middle suggests all women are killed off, and ofc the youngest wants aliens. Lmafo

[@janerandazzo6282]

It works in the books

[@tlshortyshorty5810]

@@fuzzykoala6168 gamer middle child

[@venomking2188]

Kinda like how me and my friends play DND, we make stuff more confusing.

[@JohnDoe-eu2vv]

@@janerandazzo6282 works cause the cause and effect is clearer. I do feel though that if they were going to introduce the spacks, they should’ve waited until a later film to do it, and just ended this one on a relevant cliffhanger.

[@crycrcfyhf8862]

I swear so many of the things this mans says should be turned in to inspirational quotes

[@Rafdog101]

"A broken leg is still a broken leg even if it's got a tan now." That right there. 👌

[@Grasslander]

The quotes would just be so much noise

[@SupermanBlack1987]

@@Grasslander insert well done gif here.

[@levi_exiled8579]

Not everything. He was wrong about 1 movie.

[@hazim9529]

@@levi_exiled8579 What, shitty BvS?

[@ealexb9]

The whole youtube tax thing being a transition into a sponsorship was a better plot twist than what was in the movie.

[@namelastname2724]

Spoilers smh

[@LFJgaming]

No one gonna acknowledge the fact he says he’s from Krakozhia..? The country doesn’t even exist- But who am I do challenge this claim, hey Filmento, how’s ViktorNavorski?

[@angelalexisify]

When I saw that I was laughing xdxd that was hilarious

[@halfbreedheathan5054]

🤣🤣🤣

[@amclumsycist2203]

yeah lmao

[@Galimeer5]

"Every thought you have can be seen and heard by everyone" Ah yes, every introvert's worst nightmare

[@a.s.g8334]

Yeah

[@Gabriel-te1mq]

I disagree, I'm an introvert myself, and I would probably say the same. The situation with introverts is that we quite don't fit the mainstream, and we try to fit in, instead of understading that some stuff just doesn't apply to everyone.

[@Klishar122]

Amen.

[@fockingreat1125]

I'm cringing every time a clip with unintentional thought hearing/seeing plays, god I'd just live in a hole if that happened on earth

[@lonestarr1490]

I'm pretty damn sure that no societal structure could remain intact under such circumstances. We'd all live in holes, unbearably afraid of ever running into another human.

[@susanhilyar253]

Some books just don’t translate into movies well. Especially if there’s a lot of internal thoughts. Like The Host for example. There’s just no way to put on screen what people are thinking.

[@machduel]

Enders game had a similar problem. The book was amazing in how you were immersed in enders mind and motives, but you can't do that in a 2 hour movie.

[@nastyab8003]

Um ....Dune.

[@fructuous7242]

Yeah books are excellent when it comes to delving into people's thoughts

[@georgeplunkitt5565]

The last sentence is especially funny when talking about Chaos Walking considering that hearing what people are thinking is one of the core concepts of the movie.

[@Magicalnora]

@@nastyab8003 bruh 😂

[@joelleabrahan2117]

Chaos Walking Fans: disappointed with the movie adaption Percy Jackson Fans: First time?

[@la_gobba_di_aigor]

Eragon fans: ( _deep breath_ ) welcome

[@lukepierce9418]

@@la_gobba_di_aigor now imagine being a fan of all three...

[@thomasray]

Nothing will be worse than live-action AtLA

[@MistaJay254]

@@thomasray Dragonball Evolution? Maybe issa tie

[@thomasray]

@@MistaJay254 oh that is awful. Maybe...

[@Rollsspelsmusik]

Only thing i kept thinking when i saw this movie was "this is not a movie, this is a pilot for a new series"

[@itsblitz4437]

Yeah, A good Netflix series or a Hulu or Amazon Prime one.

[@BrockLee3]

I think it might be a re-telling of the story of Job, from the Bible. Haven't seen the movie, so I'm not 100% sure; but, it sure does look and sound like a re-telling of that Bible story about the rapey town's people trying to rape two Angels which fell from Heaven, and how Job protected them.

[@nathanburgett1599]

Would be a great series too. I think tge failure was lack of vision for what they had and how far to go with it. I think it would have made an even better book series. Its like he had the ideas for an epic sci-fi series,but settled for a quick cash grab of a movie.

[@filmbrophobic]

@@nathanburgett1599 there exists a book series already hahah, the film was an adaptation! it's a trilogy by patrick ness, it's rly rly good

[@Spyderskorpian]

@@BrockLee3 That's not Job. You're thinking of the book of Genesis, where Lot and his family were with the angels.

[@broomhilder]

I remember walking out of the movie theater, mildly entertained by the concept of it all, and then it hit me. The aliens! They spent time building them up, showed them ONCE, and then we never heard them or their significance mentioned again. Had me busting up as soon as I realized this!

[@viperlabs7735]

Which sucks because the book series has them as a massive plot point. It really is tragic what they did to this story. They butchered it

[@stephanwatson7902]

That's funny, I must have missed the scene with aliens; had no idea there were any and I watched the whole movie lol

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

In the Chaos Walking universe, the humans are the aliens. The "aliens" called the Spakle in the books, are the indigenous population of the planet they're on.

[@midasmusa3660]

@@ashowstoppinnumber I’m pretty sure they left room for a second and possibly third movie, which would explain plot holes left unanswered. Unfortunately the box office failure won’t warrant a second movie. All in all I just hope “Dune” gets the same treatment and the sequel gets tossed lol

[@kj-marslander]

@@midasmusa3660 you didn't like Dune?

[@Neutral_Tired]

They represented The Noise so well in this movie, if only the rest of the movie measured up

[@ilmlya]

I thought so too!

[@jordonbennett4194]

So you can hear it to

[@melissadaisy]

The Mayor was afraid of the women because they had no noise, thus he could never know what they were thinking or plotting. THAT was the motivation in the book, at least. Not in the movie. I hated this movie.

[@MrlspPrt]

So he was an insecure man... I don't like the idea of someone being that crazy and nobody else stopping him.

[@07_danishwistara29]

@@MrlspPrt you'd be surprised

[@MsSwitchblade13]

@@MrlspPrt An insecure man is such a cheap villain. You can blame almost anything on an insecure man and it would be believable

[@Erreul]

@@MrlspPrt Don't need to like it man, real life has a way of happening whether we like it or not.

[@matthewparker9276]

In the books, the noise was a critique of toxic masculinity, so having the villian be an insecure man wasn't cheap at all.

[@case6668]

dude imagine the seagulls from nemo in this movie that would be real chaos

[@Filmento]

Although I guess their internal thoughts are loudly external even without there being noise

[@case6668]

That’s what I mean, noise on top of noise, “meganoise”

[@Filmento]

by the way which thumbnail did you like more? I'm trying both Ridley and Holland to see who people will wanna click more. And can you recognize that it's Ridley in this thumbnail? Thanks

[@andyz2861]

@@Filmento From the one I saw, Ridley is instantly recognizable. On the left nearly facing the camera, right?

[@case6668]

@@Filmento Hmm, I recognize both of them, actually from the examples you gave in the video (being the MCU and Star Wars, I’m very generic,) I guess I’d focus more on whoever’s specific facial expression stands out more, so for example Ridley’s face in the current thumbnail sticks out to me because she’s looking past the “camera” like something is happening in the distance. If you were to chose an image of Holland instead, he’d need to be doing something similar in order to get people to notice that it isn’t some generic interview with him, because I get those recommended to me all the time. That being said, I clicked because I saw that it was specifically your upload, and I’m quite fond of the channel. At any rate, I don’t think you can go wrong with either. (Forgot to mention, the ever-present “failure” label always catches my eye as well, lol)

[@fluffylilcookie7916]

The thoughts concept sounded so new and original until I realized they just made cartoon thought bubbles tangible.

[@AM-jx3zf]

Yeah it's an original idea... :( too bad it's derp

[@crosscutking4973]

Trust the book was better

[@pupuslinger]

I agree, had so much potential but the execution was just not there...

[@stu9416]

Book series is amazing, I was actually excited for the movie and it turned out shit lol

[@Rafielo]

The concept was also used in an episode of Samurai Jack reboot. A species communicated with mind emojis.

[@z-beeblebrox]

This is the fundamental problem with adapting novels into movies. Even when the novel is a low concept, you have to accept that you're going to make a thin, superficial representation of what the novel did, and lean in to the strongest characters to carry the film (think of how much gets cut out of every Grisham or Clancy adaptation). But if it's a novel with lots of world building and complex stuff going on, you either need to ruthlessly rip out all but ONE of those high concepts, or make a goddamn tv show. Your goal needs to be Jurassic Park, not fuckin The Expanse. The Expanse has 'complicated distant future politics', 'involved rules for space travel', 'alien virus', 'noir mystery', and 'precursor hyperspace nexus' all crammed into one story, and it ONLY works because it's a show. If it was a movie it would've been Jupiter Ascending. This shit is established logic, it's madness that people keep getting it wrong with millions of dollars on hand.

[@Selrisitai]

Jurassic Park proves it can be done, actually, so your argument is bunk.

[@z-beeblebrox]

@@Selrisitai on the contrary, Jurassic Park is a perfect example of a director embracing that the adaptation will inevitably be more superficial. The novel is an entire dissertation on chaos theory like it goes HARD on some extremely complex ideas, and all of that is distilled into a brief, comedic flirtation scene that gives you the cliff’s notes of the cliff’s notes.

[@luke5930]

I'm confused, has this film already come out? I completely forgot it existed

[@2doges1bong]

This the first time Ive heard of it too

[@TrigunnerX3]

The first time I heard of it, it was from a film review on Tumblr.

[@theredguardowen8083]

I work in a movie theater, it’s out, but isn’t getting much attention, in fact, it’s been out for awhile now, though I can’t remember exactly how long.

[@Mojaveknight17]

Never heard of it 🙁

[@AxioProductions]

From what little I recall, this film was recalled many times due to negative responses from test viewers

[@jokerwonderwoman9548]

"A broken leg remains broken, even after you give it a nice tan." My new favorite Filmento quote.

[@rossthebesiegebuilder3563]

It's very similar to "rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic."

[@jamesleodelacruz]

I am the way, the truth, and the life. -Jesus Christ

[@predator7939]

@@jamesleodelacruz Do you mind?

[@reallyhimongod]

Have y’all never heard a quote like that before?? Y’all must not read or somethin lol it’s a nazi saying

[@karloz2722]

Other KZbinrs create video essays, Filmento creates lectures. Every time Filmentos says "If you want your movie..." or something along those lines, I imagine someone making a movie and saying "time to apply everything we learned in Filmento University".

[@jor4114]

"Filmento University. Filmento U. Good ol' F.U."

[@MrlspPrt]

@@jor4114 this sounds more like a Pixar prequel of a villain obsessed with SinemaSins than a serious thing.

[@ryllharu]

I write a lot of the takeaways down because they are really good editorial creative writing advice.

[@karloz2722]

@@ryllharu I like the advice as means of storytelling. I think it can often apply to any sort of story not just movies.

[@SobridMusic]

I don't think a Filmento movie would be that great. He's the kind of person that would say that "April needs a pre-existing connection to the Ninja Turtles, we should make them her childhood pets".

[@AnaSabine]

It’s ironic that its title, Chaos Walking, seems to perfectly sum up the plot of this film. 😂

[@scooterjones303]

Clever

[@LOOWGV]

bruh they turned an clever title (after you read the first book) into an actual description of the lore

[@Ziomaletto]

And its production.

[@gregoryl.levitre9759]

It's just basic brand development, silly.

[@MegaBonBonified]

"Chaos Walking" is an adaptation of "The Knife of Never letting Go." And it's so muddied and running all over the sorce material and runs into the same problem as the Eragon adaptation. Trying to cram the whole books plot into just and short hour or so.

[@richardm5448]

We don't speak of the eragon movie

[@ggundercover3681]

hmmm, now I might consider reading the book. I've been trying to get back into books so thanks for the recommendation

[@richardm5448]

@@ggundercover3681 the eragon books or the knife of never letting go? Cause both are worth a read. Eragon has 4 books but I've only read the one on the other so I'm not sure if there are more. Eragon, Eldest, Brisnger and Inheritance are the names.

[@lpfan4491]

I really hate it when people do that. What productionstudios just *need* to understand is that adapting into an overly short timespan is straight up hardmode. Plotpoints need to be carefully merged or deleted and every second of every scene needs to be optimised for the product to end up good. But that is just never done, and we get a blob of bad pacing and a muddled plot.

[@meropedurwood5514]

It should probably be a TV show. "The Golden Compass" (movie adaption) failed back then, and "His Dark Materials" (TV show adaption) is a success. Maybe it could go the same way with this movie.

[@spooderman6312]

chaos walking is the movie nobody asked for but... thats the end of that sentence

[@silent_cipher9308]

Spooder man spooder man.

[@onewhocollects6658]

......but we got it anyways 😑

[@marleyhicks7263]

Jokes on you , I didn’t know this movie existed

[@ShivamPatel-yq7rr]

Ironboy and Mary Sue in a movie. No other reason

[@kayliean]

you can't end a sentence with a conjunction

[@jordinagel1184]

Daisy Ridley when she stars in yet another property where multiple writers working towards different ends are responsible for the same story: “Oh sh*t, here we go again”

[@dogperson4436]

Bad luck cause she's a decent actress

[@Edward-1945-colorized]

@@dogperson4436 Rey ruined my view for her as an actress, hope she changes my mind someday

[@bobw1678]

@@dogperson4436 Really? I'll believe it when I see it, but it really does look like she has the same three facial expressions. Blank stare, blank-stare-with-mouth-open, and "grrr this is my angry face"

[@DeadKraken]

@@bobw1678 She's decent, not excellent but offers very decent performances and she's good at adapting to her co-stars' levels of skill, and considering that she worked with some actors that are known to be very expressive(like Driver and Boyega, Driver literally made Ford's performance look bad and lazy in both TFA and TROS), that's no small feat. How do you even look at one of her SW movie and only see "3 expressions" is beyond me.

[@DeadKraken]

@@Edward-1945-colorized Learn to differentiate between character and actor\actress maybe?

[@TheAkashicTraveller]

This feels like a several novel YA serires having been crammed into one movie.

[@chrisXlr8r]

Sort of actually. They sort of rushed an ending to a trilogy in one movie. Without using ANY of the source material past the boat scene.

[@logithurman2433]

The chaos walking series is a wonderful trilogy, and the movie becomes completely different around halfway through what would be the first book if not earlier. Its a horrid butchered Frankenstein of one of the best trilogies ive read.

[@oduinn7948]

They just need to cut out filming shitty YA novels, even when they work they're fuckin' terrible.

[@colinwatt9387]

@@oduinn7948 When I see "YA"" I read "poorly written novel aimed at youngsters who don't know any better"

[@viperlabs7735]

@@oduinn7948 except the chaos walking trilogy is actually a really good trilogy.

[@simondings782]

I feel like if you want to create the world from Chaos walking on the big screen it has to be a show and not a movie. There's simply too many concepts and character arcs in the books to properly portray them in two hours. It's a shame because these books are really good and have won multiple awards.

[@somethinglikethat2176]

I think we're seeing a shift over the last decade or so, TV and limited series with the right budget can do justice to more complex works and make a more satisfying product as a result.

[@zigzaghyena]

@Random Username Which would make it an entirely different story. Multiple focuses aren't impossible to do in a good story, it just can't be done properly in feature length.

[@jessie450]

@Random Username I think it would have been a good series bc they would have time to explore all of the concepts in the book. The alien plot is an over arching one in the series that even ends with a war in the last book.

[@zigzaghyena]

@Random Username That's the thing, in the books all of this stuff was set up very early. (Major Spoilers ahead for the first book) The main character lives in an all male militia style town which is very obviously a cult and they are constantly on alert for said aliens whom they supposedly fought to near extinction when human colonists first arrived on the planet. The noise is a result of some local germ which the leadership claims (falsely) was a weapon released by the aliens that killed all the women and half the men. Later on in the first book we find out nobody ever actually died from the noise itself, the women however were unaffected by the Noise Germ in the atmosphere and were forced out of the colony by a crazed militia convinced the women were conspiring with the aliens due to their immunity, Prentiss than fed all the male children born before this mess the previously mentioned false claims and formed his own personality cult, meanwhile the women and the supposedly dead half of the men made an actual functioning colony elsewhere. All of this is in the first book, the whole novel is just one big set up for the next two. The movie however has no setup, it just snatches major plot points from the trilogy with no context and mashes them together while ignoring why and how those things worked off each other in the first place.

[@Lily-zk1ic]

i completely agree! the books were amazing and it’s one of my favorite series. if they were to transform it into another media it should’ve been a show that being said i think they should’ve just left it alone.

[@biscuit_1316]

When I saw the trailer I thought it was like some fan made thing, but it's real I guess

[@astrobird11]

Daaaaamn , you didn't have to do them that bad

[@InVinoVeratas]

That’s most movies nowadays.

[@han3wmanwukong125]

based on a book, apparently.

[@VaunShiz]

Same 😂I thought it was a fan mini movie

[@Da69expert1]

Dude i literally thought the same thing no joke bruh

[@cheshiredeimos1874]

So in short this story would have been better adapted as a series. Introduce a different high concept each week, giving it room to breathe as you progress towards your destination.

[@GreatDerg]

you invented jojo

[@redacted144]

@@GreatDerg >room to breath >JoJo >AHAHHAHAHA

[@europanzer3929]

So... World War Z then?

[@tristanneal9552]

Personally that still seems like it wouldn't work. Like having the women thing, the aliens, and the noise all being unrelated just really pushes my suspension of disbelief. I definitely would have assumed the noise and aliens were tied in to the same explanation, otherwise those two high concepts side by side would still be weird.

[@srai5333]

oml true it would have been much easier to digest it

[@ianfleischer3532]

The thing with the main concept of the Noise is that it fundamentally changes pretty much every aspect of daily-life human interaction. Add on top of that the concept of not having any women and the landscape changes entirely, you basically have a worldbuilding conundrum in your hands as a writer. No longer can there be large groups of people together, because said groups will eventually splinter due to people always knowing what the other person thinks. Interpersonal relationships will be much more based on trust. How do you keep sanity in a place where all the time your own thoughts are being projected? How does the social contract (specially among men, where we're usually taught as children to guard our emotions and be tough and strong) alter the way people interact? On top of that, think of all the functions and characteristics the Noise brings up: how does it work? does it project only surface level thoughts or deeper thoughts of the subconcious? Does it project dreams as well? Does seeing your own thoughts bring up other thoughts and so you risk end up thinking on another thing entirely different of what you were doing at the moment? Do male animals have it as well? Do they have thoughts? How do you control it? Some people would probably start some form of religion or mentalism in order to not think at all. Would people act much more on emotion rather than critical thinking? Also, as a quick sidenote, the whole western angle as well has a lot of potential. The understanding I got from the film at least is that the majority of the colonizers that first arrived decided to not terraform the planet and instead established themselves into small, Amish-like settlements and leaving the machinery behind. Wouldn't that be an interesting motivation for the villain? Maybe they are afraid of more colonizers arriving and destroying the paradise they have made for themselves and bringing "civilization" to their very own wild west (and also maybe they're scared of being you know, judged for murder1ng an entire town's female population). There yoiu have some nice parallels to the real life american frontier in the late 1800's and also a nice touch of worldbuilding.

[@StriderStryker]

Book to film adaptation: *exists* Film critics: _How many times do we have to teach you the same lesson, old man?_

[@rockkid1412]

Same for video game film adaptations.

[@ThePreciseClimber]

First step - instead of making live-action movies, focus on animated TV series instead. Far less restrictive. Japan got it figured out ages ago with anime.

[@skaytrix4373]

@@ThePreciseClimber unfortunately people don't want to watch "cartoons" cause they're for kids or some dumb reason like that

[@DovahFett]

The Lord of The Rings, The Shining, The Silence of the Lambs, The Godfather, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Stand By Me, No Country For Old Men, Blade Runner, Apocalypse Now. All of these are book to film adaptations that at least match the original material.

[@limes5295]

@@ThePreciseClimber It also helps that light novels are designed to be adapted and usually have a much more focused scope than regular novels.

[@benjameshowden]

The noise would be X-rated within minutes of Daisy showing up

[@excelhimera9627]

In the books, they were only 13-14 yrs old and Todd (Tom Holland) had never met a single woman before, so he wouldn't know what to think of them.

[@dirtydeeds4free553]

@@excelhimera9627 i mean, im sure nature would still kick in and find a way. Also imagine a whole ass group of men completely starved of a natural need to procreate and then drop one woman into the mix. Hunting to kill her? I highly doubt that. This is basically the same thing that happens when navy ship rolls up to a port city. Everyone has 2 things on there mind, fucking and drinking.

[@raymondleggs5508]

My noise would say "I wanna see her boobies"

[@dot9424]

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[@Soddyn]

It would be like that scene in Dredd where the guy shows Anderson what he's fantasizing on doing to her

[@isaacchan5960]

i feel like this film is one of those films that would work a lot better if put into a tv show format, because it will allow the story enough time to establish all these interesting concepts

[@katherine-oh3rt]

I understood it perfectly fine, but I may just have incredibly low movie standards

[@spacewinter]

True. A lot of books are better adapted into show format

[@katherine-oh3rt]

@Cael Berglund oh I get it. I just did not care about the spackles and combined the noise concept with viola's situation. probably wouldn't be interesting for others still though.

[@williamzebub3252]

Planet where men have their thoughts materialize in cartoony imagery sounds like an episode for a space faring TV show.

[@eden20111]

@Cael Berglund I found it interesting it’s just the concept was written so poor.. it should have been a tv series. Like the native species on the planet. I wanted to learn more about them yet they have screen time for literally a minute...

[@thefinkie6459]

All I can say is: the books managed it just fine. There's nothing wrong with the ideas or plot points here, just the haphazard way they were selected from the source material and thrown into a 2-hour movie.

[@Byronic19134]

Do the men reproduce asexually or how is it possible that there are no women on the entire planet? That sounds ridiculous.

[@Sashimi_Boy2404]

@@Byronic19134 If you haven't read the book nor finished it. SPOILERS There are women in that world too and they're immune from the germ as well. The men in Prentisstown used the virus to cover up their femicide.

[@Jot2023]

Exactly!

[@thepeatboggy]

Its a very poor adaption that seems to miss the thematic points

[@TheBananaThug]

"Peoples thoughts manifest visually and auditorily? cool" "They introduce a character whos thoughts dont? interesting" "Shes an alien girl from space and all girls dont, but also all girls were killed by aliens and now the aliens are invading? huh?"

[@Nostalgia_Addict]

"I LOVE IT!" - Rian Johnson

[@Zombear]

If you've read the book trilogy then you would know the aliens didn't kill the women.

[@Julie2makaykay]

@@Zombear ADN they aren’t aliens. They are natives to this new world

[@Zombear]

@@Julie2makaykay yeah, I know the humans are settlers. The race that is alien to human biology then.

[@bobw1678]

@@Zombear This is a young adult science fiction series. I'm not 14, so why would I read YA material when there are far better options available?

[@FoxyGamerS2]

It’s so sad that The original concept “thoughts out of mind” is an extremely great and interesting concept, but for some reason they thought it wasn’t enough and just spammed random sci-fi content

[@Ramsey276one]

That seems like what a telepathic person would live like. You’d be a great waiter if you can filter it! XD

[@Grasslander]

Needs more Thanatos

[@Fridaey13txhOktober]

To be fair, there should be at least a few random things like the alien fight.

[@An_Entire_Lime]

@@Fridaey13txhOktober why though?

[@hurricanestudios6797]

They were trying to stay faithful to the book because the book included all that extra stuff.

[@Neutral_Tired]

If they'd kept it accurate to the book series and aimed to make sequels it'd fix most of the problems, all these different, weird cool things are addressed seperately in their own time over the course of the series, and the extra ideas were connected enough that they don't take away from each other (much)

[@ilicktrains8304]

I remember in the original book Tod is supposed to be 13, and viola is supposed to be roughly the same age as he, the fact that they aged these two up so much made a lot of the character dynamics in the book unusable here

[@lr514]

Books generally have more time to do things in comparison to a 2 hr-ish movie, so it might’ve been for the better.

[@ilicktrains8304]

@@lr514 I think it probably should have been made into a series, like with Queens gambit which became a really successful Netflix original

[@MrlspPrt]

Keep in mind some ideas are good for books, but not for a movie because morals... just look that part from It where the kids... well... all are "inside" Beverly... I don't know this saga, but I bet they aged the characters for two things: using famous actors and changing some plot lines to be more in line with the actors.

[@KeithFraser82]

I can see several good reasons why they used older protagonists (as in other similar movies), but when adaptations do that, they really need to rethink the character relationship dynamics, as you say. A 13-year-old boy who's never seen a girl going "ee hee she's pretty oh noez what do I do" is just about capable of being comically cute. An older teenage boy/young man acting like a dope or an aggressive jerk when he meets a girl/woman his own age for the first time ever risks just being kind of sad or trying to turn something (boys/young men growing up seeing women as incomprehensible space aliens) which has bad results in real life into a silly joke.

[@peacorptv6502]

Change the names in this statement and you've got the reason why a lot of adaptations of young adult books have failed.

[@HashbrownMashup]

"Dear god don't let us get typecast" The Movie.

[@mkocel]

BWAHAHAHAHA that one literally make me laugh out loud. Well played friend.

[@KeithFraser82]

Men Going Their Own Way: The Movie Bad Things Happen When Men Are Forced To Communicate: The Movie

[@MasterofPandP]

@Luc Germain thats cause hollywood doesnt cast actors in main roles anymore

[@ferhog7705]

@Luc Germain I'm yet to be especially impressed with a Daisey Ridley performance but Tom Holland has been great as MCU Spiderman. If you don't feel anything when Peter is trapped under that building and crying for help in Spiderman Homecoming than you have no soul.

[@rickyparsons5116]

I don't even watch new movies or shows anymore, I'd rather watch KZbin videos pulling them apart

[@GeeklyGoods]

It's so nice watching KZbinrs dissect movies like this. Even though I review them I still love a detailed breakdown like this

[@reyvilla6994]

Nah, I feel to really get the jokes you gotta suffer and watch the films yourself. You must be a lazy millennial

[@pixxelwizzard]

I've watched multi-hour analysis videos of movies I wouldn't give up 90 mins to sit through.

[@reyvilla6994]

@@pixxelwizzard I never heard anyone brag about not ever having their own opinion on the referenced material....watch them all you want you are still pretty dumb. Just look at your screen name. Lol.

[@exzyyd392]

@@reyvilla6994 Wow you're so cool and smart and everyone loves you

[@clinth67]

The books make perfect sense. All the themes complained about on here work fine in the books. This story should have been a TV show

[@wolfiexm]

Definitely.. Cuz there were many things in the books. But when you stick all the books in just one movie.. Well 😐

[@fastertrackcreative]

Might be too expensive to work as a TV show, given all the effects needed for the thoughts.

[@bullymaguire7554]

@@fastertrackcreative I'm not gonna lie, I can't tell the difference half the time when this KZbin video added its *own* thought effects vs the movie's effects. So....I don't think its too complex for a TV show.

[@skelemid5294]

Funny thing is there is a new fallout tv show and the time duration of every episode is 1 hour, it almost like a movie. How the showrunners doesn't know that you can make an episode that has a time duration of a movie, how they not adapt that thing?

[@Dad......]

I have never heard of this movie, but I think the villain being motivated by insecurity and fear of the people whose thoughts he couldn't plainly see is pretty realistic and believable.

[@Nostalgia_Addict]

No, it's unrealistic and laughable. I'd rather watch a villain who is just plain evil than one whose motives make zero sense and whose ambition has no justificiation behind it. I think it's just lazy or incompetent writing.

[@Dad......]

@@Nostalgia_Addict Again, hadn't seen that movie so I can't speak to this specific character, but I think that a powerful man being corrupted by his insecurity is not only realistic, there are many historical precedents. The fact that he couldn't see the thoughts of the women around him would make him suspicious of their true thoughts about him. That caused him to purge the "problem" from his community so that everyone's thoughts were known to him.

[@magicallydelicious1673]

@@Nostalgia_Addict It’s entirely realistic. What world are you living in?

[@magicallydelicious1673]

@@Dad...... You should read the books! The villain in the books is explored way more into things like manipulation, control, and even more noise lore in the second and third books! You’d love it :)

[@bobw1678]

@@magicallydelicious1673 It's entirely realistic. What's NOT realistic is that he's the villain. Because in this kind of world, EVERYONE would be insecure and fearful of the people whose thoughts couldnt be seen. Manipulation and control wouldnt even be things (because....your thoughts can be seen, right? So how are you going to hatch and execute an evil plan to manipulate everyone?)

[@WarriorBoy]

J.Jonah Jameson taunting the low-gross of the movie while orbitting Tom Holland's head was perfecto.

[@edytolis3328]

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[@lukeflaherty4686]

The book this movie is based on, “The Knife of Never Letting Go” is an amazing book I’m very disappointed with how this movie turned out

[@woops9076]

Me too

[@p4hagen197]

Ohh that's the one

[@calvinjohnstone2664]

The ask and the answer. Monsters of men. Or monsters and men. Great trilogy, a disappointment the film sucks as you say. Hollywood 😒

[@kebsis]

Did the book have all the moving parts that the movie does?

[@coygus4422]

@@kebsis kind of yes, but as a book I think it was better able to set these things up better, also the world being an alien world is a bit of a twist, the colony ships used by the original settlers are only known as "the ships" and the place they live in is only called "the new world." Also the colony is a very religious colony and the colonists that Daisy Ridley is with have no idea there is already a human settlement on the planet.

[@darkursrike3161]

I read a book like this, but on Chile it's called "El cuchillo en la mano" or "the knife on the hand" if you textually translate it, the book is actually really really good. The book actually explains that girls are not actually extinct but rather that village killed all of them because of fear. And after that the story is just some Big clusterfuck about how this kid just gets more and more knowledge of the world, loosing and maturing along the way.

[@milicadiy]

It's The Knife of Never Letting Go in English, and the movie is a direct adaptation of it.

[@milicadiy]

@Keilani Kaylin Nothing is impossible to adapt.

[@izzyl12748]

Yes the book is called knife of never letting go and the book series is called chaos walking hence the name of the film

[@idontwannabeanonymous4725]

From all the comments, now I wanna read the book so bad and find out what are the clusterfuxk that happened on that planet :(

[@milicadiy]

@@idontwannabeanonymous4725 Please read it as soon as you can. It's pretty good for a YA book.

[@TheLonelyLurker1995]

"No matter how much you polished it, a piece of crap would always be a piece of crap." Yup, that's basically Chaos walking.

[@TomEyeTheSFMguy]

How do you polish a piece of crap?

[@internetdinosaur8810]

In theory, it all starts with the type of shit. Depending on the type of shit, it's a matter of how much water you put to mould it into a ball. Once you've made a dense ball, you leave it to dry for a while. Next, you can can start to sand the shit--even it out. Once you're satisfied with it, you can start using finer and finer sandpaper. To finish it off, you can start coating it with a wax and there you have it. A polished shit.

[@TomEyeTheSFMguy]

@@internetdinosaur8810 Huh. Why thank you.

[@AshrakAhmed]

@@internetdinosaur8810 Yayee Mythbuster ref

[@Skitdora2010]

There actually was a video done showing you can in fact polish a turd. Herbivore poop works better as carnivore has feathers and teeth in it, but the concept is the oils in your hands help make it smooth and shiny as you continue to roll it between your hands.

[@simphiwe4930]

I loved the concept of the religious dude who was going crazy and saying that people with no noise were soulless and didn't like hiding his noise at all because of this (hating the leader for it even)... Stuff like that really needs it's own movie. So interesting.

[@x340x]

yeah and that what they shouldve used as reason for the extinct women if they wanted to leave it. some fanatics killing all women xxx years ago because they didnt have noise, then you coulve get a cool story: girl crashes on the world of only men with history of fanatics against women (because no noise) - still religious society agains no noise, random dude who is already questioning this found her, falls in love, due to noise others find out, he helps her and they are on the run to get to her ship( she was in module, ship "safely crashed" hundreds of miles away) so she can escape, they almost make it, main bad catches them, then something something, they win, she takes him with her, happily ever after the end. there you have better story. bonus: in a sequel we find out she is from a planet with only women, because something, virus or something, yada yada yada story goes on. bonus 2: in the 3rd and last movie of the trilogy both planets go to war with each other because men want to kill everyone without the noise (therefor all women) and women want to kill men for some reason from movie 2, at the end power of love (of our two characters)convinces everyone they dont have to kill each other, tadaah the end.

[@Rish24]

@@x340x of all languages, you chose to speak facts

[@joshuathomas5626]

Haven't seen it, but I assumed they got rid of them for strategic reasons. In a more primitive tribal survivalist scenario between groups fighting over resources, female tribal members would eventually begin espionage tactics on other groups for whatever strategic reason. Could be like a mutual insured destruction treaty between the men or something. Idk, maybe I'm just to high

[@lilyisacat29]

It was far better portrayed in the book. His role was really cut down in the film.

[@dxshawn532]

@@x340x Yeah, I remember u from school I sat behind you im that guy remember?

[@ASpooneyBard]

That scene with the fence that suddenly appeared, blew my mind a little. I'd actually love to see a crime thriller set in a world where everyone can intuitively use illusion magic, with the downside that every one can hear all of your thoughts out loud. How do you manipulate people when they can hear what you're actually thinking? How do police locate a crime in progress when criminals can project a fake wall to hide behind? There's a lot of potential for that concept.

[@WarriorBoy]

Agreed. I said this in another comment, but maybe in that world, meditation would become prioritized as a skill, so that you could prevent people from reading your thoughts. It would be like in our reality learning the ticks a person does with their body language when lying, then focusing to cover those ticks up: it wouldn't be easy, but experts could master it. Forget the sci-fi and last woman concepts etc, an action/adventure concept (with a villain who couldn't be read at all, of course) with those concepts could be awesome.

[@satellachannel6423]

Your comment reminds me of Minority Report. Not quite the same but maybe the closest we have.

[@Durandurandal]

There's an old 50s scifi book with a similar idea. Telepaths are common, so the villain has to figure out how to commit a murder when the police can just read his mind to know if he did it or not. It's "The Demolished Man"

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[@rolletroll2338]

12:32 I love how the actor on the bottom left corner of the screen is just casually photobombing, looking confused about what is happening in front of him.

[@rebel_diamonds]

The concept of this thing feels like a parody of every YA story. A bizarre unorthodox thing the entire world revolves around and a special one of the kind girl as the protagonist.

[@AndrewAce.]

I was thinking of _"Divergent",_ LMAO...

[@dorrienmapes4686]

That's because it was a YA novel

[@AndrewAce.]

@@dorrienmapes4686 of course it would be...

[@FrankCastle-tq9bz]

YA fiction sucks - it’s just infatuated teens that ogle each other.

[@AndrewAce.]

@@FrankCastle-tq9bz It really is just a vehicle for teen drama. Everything else is just decorative. You can replace the sci-fi or fantasy elements with literally anything else, and the stories would be identical...

[@Makowh]

The base concept reminds me a bit of a comics series called "Sillage", where a stranded human little girl is found by a gigantic convoy of alien ships with hundreds of races. Every race is either Psy-active (they can read thoughts) or Psy-passive (can't read thoughts and can be red). It's discovered that this human girl is the first ever they met, and the only race to be psy-neutral (can't read thoughts, can't be red either), which makes her a huge deal in this context where psy-activeness determines a lot of the hierarchy, and is trained as a special agent for the power in place. Anyway, far better concepts than this movie appearently XD

[@liabw05]

Sounds interesting!

[@carnage1015]

Any particular website you know that one could read it at?

[@Makowh]

@@carnage1015 I don't know of any, it's a French comic series, from what I see in English it's called "Wake", the first book is titled "Fire and Ash". Great Sci-Fi stuff, hope you can find it :)

[@idontwannabeanonymous4725]

Hope someday, huge director consider it to make it into series

[@mutantspid3r459]

Honey is literally sponsoring every channel. No one can escape it

[@toastyguard4344]

With youtube's bullshit that's mostly a good thing

[@HeresorLegacy]

Of course they do. With new cookie policies and people actually able to opt out of tracking, services like Honey that sell your data in exchange for coupons are more lucrative than ever. Payback is doing the same thing.

[@leonardorivas237]

Raid shadow legends

[@Emmuzka]

It's either Honey, Nord VPN or those damn earbuds.

[@An_Entire_Lime]

at least it isnt raid shadow legends

[@Zyntherion2202]

As a reader of all three books of Chaos Walking, I was super stoked when they announced a Chaos Walking movie that is featuring very big names. The books are absolutely incredible in almost all aspects and has incredible writing that can get me deeply immersed in without even trying too hard. The story is full of fear, anxiety, suspense, curiosity, adventure, and discovery. So imagine how disappointed I am when the movie dropped and turns out like *this.* I shouldn't have watched it.

[@popejpv]

The Hundred is a good example of this. In early seasons it’s all about the survival in this strange world but with clear connections to our own and relatable scenarios and questions but then they start adding higher and higher concept sci-do elements and it becomes ‘noise’ that blocks out the original interest of the show

[@vladstr100]

I'm sad at how they butchered the later seasons. I haven't watched the last season or two because of that

[@antiqtech]

They had written themselves into a corner by devasting the earth and guess what they chose: place the characters in cryosleep, move the stage to another star system, add extra space related concepts... And that ending....

[@cloroxusthestainlessone4324]

I haven't seen it since the mountain escape, is it that bad?

[@swinelias]

@@cloroxusthestainlessone4324 a bit like that, yeah lol

[@Drapvi]

@@cloroxusthestainlessone4324 I actually really enjoyed seasons 3-5 for the most part, but the ending of 5 onwards is just increasing levels of convolution

[@suenzhong7891]

Eragon, Percy Jackson, Beautiful Creatures, Artemis Fowl, and now The Knife of Never Letting Go. Can we get a movie adaptation of a book that doesn't suck nowadays?

[@nehesiblackmon2174]

It would take a director with the authority to put his/her vision on film without notes from a studio...and a Director mature enough to not be SO in love with his/her vision that he/she can’t edit well

[@littlesparrow303]

I’m glad Rick will be part of the Percy Jackson tv series. Like he will be keeping an eye on it & helping it which is good. I would prefer the tv series than a movie. I love the books & want to reread the ones about Percy & him with the Romans too

[@joex1084]

The Shadow and Bones adaptation on Netflix is pretty solid

[@headinthecloudsbookinhand]

I think the Maze Runner adaption and the Harry Potter series might be the best I've seen. I actually prefer the Maze Runner movies over the books. I know they're not perfect but the books are pretty much unreadable to me. And the Harry Potter movies aren't perfect either, but they stay true enough to the source material and are actually enjoyable, both if you have and haven't read the books. I still prefer the books since there's much more detail to the stories of course, but the movies aren't bad.

[@michaelhenry3234]

@@headinthecloudsbookinhand Why are the Maze Runner books unreadable to you? I've never read them, but I used to have a friend that loved them. Bad prose?

[@ferrariback495]

so they just tossed all the crazy sci-fi concepts they could come up with in a script and hoped it worked lol

[@masterpenguin8472]

Just goes to show that less is always more, doesn't it? You can't just keep throwing everything but the sink in, can you? Just doesn't work that way, does it?

[@janellelives5158]

It’s based off of a book series. The books are great. However, I never thought that the concepts of the book could be translated to film well. Hence this disaster of a movie. It’s like the same situation with a Wrinkle in Time. It’s difficult to make the sci fi work for a live action film.

[@egekazkayas8968]

@@masterpenguin8472 it does sometimes, for example LoTR or Inception.

[@spooderman6312]

@@egekazkayas8968 or narnia, instead of pushing everything to one movie they carefully put plot points in each without making it too inacurate to the books

[@Bjswac]

No, it's a book. They just didn't know how to handle it.

[@serdec6101]

I saw the film without knowing of the books, and while the ending felt anticlimactic, I don't think the movie was bad in nature. They managed to do enough worldbuilding and the voice gimmick is also interesting enough to make me want to watch till the end. Yes the explanation for the women dieng felt stupid and as I said the ending was kinda anticlimactic, I liked the movie more than I disliked it.

[@dennyjack3rd]

The accent is why i keep watching lol. So calming...

[@BigBoss_893]

He sounds like makarov from modern warfare

[@retuhamalainen6961]

Krakozhia ftw!

[@spooderman6312]

yea! thats why i love watching irish and swedish people

[@onyankopon1264]

In love how his breakdowns aren't opinion based for the most part.

[@raffetoffe]

@@retuhamalainen6961 aka Finland :D

[@marvinzegarra]

For me the biggest problem was that it felt like the third act was from a different script. They make all the setup about him like he's the main person, but then she's the one that gives all the payoffs. The main bad guy kill his mother, the priest kills his dog. And we see him getting mentally prepared to get revenge, but then she's the one that actually takes care of everything. Like instead of giving each of the 2 their own character arc, they just took a single one and split it in half

[@Gsauce08]

amen

[@sarakhan-pk7ko]

In the books she killed the priest actually because in their town,boys become men when they thirteen but to become a man the boys have to kill men.So the priest basically wanted todd to kill him so that todd could become a man but todd couldnt do that so viola did.

[@sogravvyproductions4176]

@@sarakhan-pk7ko wow... That's kinda wack ngl

[@sarakhan-pk7ko]

@@sogravvyproductions4176 it's a really good book series but clearly the movie isnt doing justice.

[@Hedgehobbit]

@@sarakhan-pk7ko i keep seeing comments that the book is good but I don't see how it could be considering that every idea in this movie sounds so incredibly stupid.

[@AshGCG]

When ads are done this well, I don't scroll through looking for the end. Good job making it a part of the entertainment. Brilliant!

[@jockeb2651]

So nice that they found a planet where even all the plants are the same as on earth.

[@fastertrackcreative]

Convenient isn't it. I'd like to see more films depicting planets that don't look like they were filmed on Earth. "It's a forest" is a convenient setting.

[@shizutanako5553]

"A broken leg is a broken leg even if you give it a nice tan" ~Sun Tzu, probably

[@GeeklyGoods]

LOL it's so well done

[@B-...]

“Even the finest sword plunged into salt water will eventually rust.” So basically yep.

[@shehabali3663]

This story is from a trilogy of books: The Chaos Walking series. The first book is called ‘The Knife of Never letting go’ The books are amazing...

[@ryangosling5475]

5:25 caught me off guard 😂 💀

[@ife_avi]

Lol

[@edmontonboy99]

✋🏻 Aliens 🤚🏻

[@ife_avi]

@Dragongamer 7 well it's KZbinr

[@That_Awesome_Guy1]

I thought it was real for a second and was like, "maybe this movie isn't so bad after all"?

[@BdoubleGoat100]

As a fan on the books you could tell from the moment casting was announced this was going to fail. A core feature of the duo is how young they are, they have no idea what they're doing and they're scared. Todd is immature with a short fuse. Viola is so untrusting and petrified she refuses to even speak at first. This was such a driving force of their dynamic. More importantly they were both innocent little kids, completely caught up in the shit show that the generations before them had caused. With such an old cast you lose that innocence and you lose that immaturity that only a kid could have and thus you lose the magic of these characters as well as their special relationship.

[@foxhound6364]

This worked pretty well as a book, because all of the concepts were fully explored, and the author did a good job of really establishing, exploring and foreshadowing each of the concepts. The story would have worked really well as a TV show, and I don't know why they didn't just do that instead, with every streaming platform desperate for exclusive content.

[@MrJanelle1992]

Should made t.v show agreed 👍

[@sarahphyllis5782]

Yes exactly just like the TV series Raised by the Wolves

[@androssteague]

Adding in multiple concepts is okay when you have a TV show which is where this film belonged. You have multiple seasons to build on them.

[@noahpalmer8037]

this should definitely have been a series. Patrick ness and the trilogy itself is done so badly in here, and they didn’t even manage to introduce all of the concepts

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

The book did it better

[@robertobeto2852]

1:25 ➡️ livegirls19. com ⤵️ B.e.S.T f'u"l'l D.a.T.i.n.G h.o.T G.i.r.L's -L-o-V-e-S-e-X---❤️😘 ..👍 !💖🖤❤️今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです！この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね！１万人を超える人が見ていたもん（笑）やっぱり人参最高！まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした,. 💖🖤在整個人類歷史上，強者，富人和具有狡猾特質的人捕食部落，氏族，城鎮，城市和鄉村中的弱者，無`'守和貧窮成員。然而，人類的生存意願迫使那些被拒絕，被剝奪或摧毀的基本需求的人們找到了一種生活方式，並繼續將其DNA融入不斷發展的人類社會。. 說到食物，不要以為那些被拒絕的人只吃垃圾。相反，他們學會了在被忽視的肉類和蔬菜中尋找營養。他們學會了清潔，切塊，調味和慢燉慢燉的野菜和肉類，在食品市場上被忽略的部分家用蔬菜和肉類，並且學會了使用芳香的木煙（如山核桃，山核桃和豆科灌木 來調味g食物煮的時候 1619422402

[@minutememesfanpage1639]

This is sad for me cuz the books were so good

[@prhl-hansen8522]

Yeah. Just read the first one actually. I am excited to start the next one. Disappointed to see the movie fail :(

[@PaizuruInsanal]

Is it an YA? This is important.

[@minutememesfanpage1639]

@@PaizuruInsanal a what

[@ribby9069]

Same with Artemis Fowl

[@PaizuruInsanal]

@@minutememesfanpage1639 A Young Adult Novel, like those things that are all the same except they change the gimmicks like Maze Runner and Hunger Games.

[@electrikye7294]

It's so sad because the BOOK SERIES IS AMAZING. It's my favorite series ever, and I was so ready for this but also so worried because the books are COMPLEX and it takes a while to get all of these plot lines their own nuances and all. I was very let down by this movie.

[@nottoday3561]

When this movie was announced like 7 years ago I knew there was no way they would be able to make a good adaptation. It's just too complex and philosophical to be translated well to film. It probably could be done by some visionary director, but I didn't have much faith. I swore off ever watching it in fear that it would ruin the series for me.

[@shanechannel7066]

A world where you can see and hear everyone's thoughts Me: we already have that. It's called Twitter

[@timberd1513]

You mean hear one person's thought, because Twitter is a friggin hivemind.

[@robotdowney]

Yeah but back in the early says not Twitter is guys with megaphone that have something to say

[@squirrelpower1666]

THIS IS GOLD!! You nailed it perfectly!

[@anjaamann5899]

The author of the books, Patrick Ness, actually said the concept of the Noise was inspired by social media

[@revimfadli4666]

Did you just assume Twitter noises were backed by enough thought behind them?

[@dyveira]

It's pretty obvious to me that the reason for the ridiculous plot devices is that the producers clearly wanted to do another Maze Runner/Hunger Games/Divergent type thing where they expect to explain things in subsequent movies.

[@wjzav1971]

Yet they forgot that you gotta do this step by step. Hunger Games didn't introduce the revolution or the previous winners until part 2. They started the first movie only with the concept of a gladiator fight in a post-apocalyptic totalitarian future. The MCU didn't bring in the Avengers, The Guardians of the Galaxy, Thanos, the Infinity Stones and the Kree into the mix at the very start. They started with Iron Man and kept slowly expanding the universe from then on, until we were ready so see and accept some big purple alien wanting to halve the universe with some glowy stones. Imagine they had done that in the first Iron Man. This film should have stuck with the noise and make a solid movie out of that and then, when it is successful, make a sequel where you branch out.

[@luma4902]

To be fair i read all the 1 books except the one this movie is based on and all of them end with the twist "wait there is more" if that is what you talking about because each one is a trilogy

[@luma4902]

@@wjzav1971 totally agree

[@batfan1939]

It sounds like they tried to put all the movies together, at the expense of the explanations. Movie 1: The Noise on an all-male planet. Daisy Ridley revealed at the end. Movie 2: Maze Runner-style mystery about where she came from, and what happened to the other women. Aliens revealed. Movie 3: Mayor attempts to use aliens' advanced technology to take over, exposed as real killer. Mayor = evil should be a twist. Or option B: Everyone in the colony has The Noise except Tom Holland. This can be due to injury, trauma, whatever. Then Daisy Ridley shows up without it.

[@nbucwa6621]

@@batfan1939 Exactly. The first movie should have focused on the speckles and the mystery of no women and how they tie together only. It's hilarious to me that they point out the speckle village only to avoid it completely and we never learn anything more about them again despite the trailer having made them sound so intriguing

[@lolstuffenjoy9880]

Its baffling how they leave ray with her British accent but they force Tom Holland to have a Canadian accent

[@yusafmalik5171]

They should've given him a scouse accent

[@colinwatt9387]

The problem with "high concept" action movies is that the writers think "science fiction" is any old bullshit they can think up. The plot for Chaos Walking would have made more sense if it was set in a world with actual magic and wizards, instead of just "space-magic".

[@guy3630]

The original book trilogy is way better

[@nottoday3561]

The trilogy explains the concepts much better and it actually all ties together. It's unfortunate that the movie messed it up so badly, because this series is probably the most unique and profound sci-fi-esque series ive ever read.

[@colinwatt9387]

@@nottoday3561 It sounds too contrived for my taste, but any fantasy that conforms to it's own rules, has interesting characters and an engaging plot should be enjoyable. I generally prefer science fiction that has, at least, a tenuous link to science; extrapolating from what we know, or filling in the gaps of our knowledge with interesting ideas, that sort of thing. I'm almost tempted to read the CW trilogy just to see for myself but I find YA fiction to be consistently tedious. For actual profound sci-fi try David Brin's "Uplift" series, or Stephen Baxter's "Xeelee" sequence.

[@ryszakowy]

damn spiderman really can't find himself a place without stark mentoring him

[@fishyfish6510]

Don't worry, he did good under the new Bruce Wayne's mentorship

[@TheChaos5111]

@@fishyfish6510 Please no. Last thing we need is him in a DC movie too. He’s already ruining Uncharted’s Drake with Mark Wahlberg ruining Sully

[@miguelcom13]

@@TheChaos5111 ???? tom is not a bad actor,

[@a.lister4976]

@@miguelcom13 No but he keeps making rather critically bad,shit movies.

[@miguelcom13]

@@a.lister4976 literally all actor have bad movies and good movies and you are focusing in the bad ones because he have been in plenty of good movies too

[@Gawillamon]

Wow I love that concept of thoughts forming in physicality. Too bad they didn't just focus on that.

[@logandraper]

The only channel on youtube that I dont skip ad reels on because of how well they're integrated

[@seeingeyegod]

I still skip them all everywhere, feel like any day now youtube will make that impossible

[@js-cm9si]

They might do that thing where they make the skip button a fake one to make us click on their link.

[@thebiggestnerd704]

The source material for this requires all three books to make sense of the story. Many themes introduced in the first book (The one this movie is based on) are revealed to be lies in later books. The movie was extremely accurate to the first book, and without context or major modification to the source, the story makes little sense.

[@kevinsnyman6038]

“...as well as the galaxies favourite nobody from Star Wars” damn filmento 😂 0:50

[@themg128]

Coming from one of the probably 2 people who’ve actually read the books the movie is based on. It had so much potential and dropped the ball hard. It feels like they realized they weren’t gonna make the other books into movies so they just slapped the ending of the third book to the end of this one

[@littlesparrow303]

Now I want to read it cause the movie honestly was boring me. I didn’t pay attention to it majority. I like Tom & Daisy but this movie wasn’t good

[@themg128]

@@littlesparrow303 I don’t like reading, but I was surprised how engaged I was reading the books, you should definitely give it a read they’re pretty good

[@andrewagnew9797]

I have heard my girlfriend talk at length about each of the book and I was honestly excited to see the movie but the movie was almost nothing like what she described lol but still going to read them this summer

[@HMSmueller]

Yes the books are phenomenal with such great literary gimmicks

[@asmiforeal]

@@littlesparrow303 you HAVE to read the books they're amazing

[@MasterCrumble]

This movie feels like such an anime. It has the guy saying/thinking embarrassing things, and every woman being on a pedestal.

[@KeithFraser82]

I agree that the idea of the slightly dopey male lead who has never met a woman and has no idea how to act around one, then naturally gets thrown together with a woman who he becomes attracted to, feels like standard Shounen Anime Plot 101. I think this trope is hard to make work even as a joke for a male character who's older than a young teenager, at least now that the idea of "men not understanding women" is a bit more of a Serious Thing We Need To Do Something About and less of a "lol, that's just how things are and always will be" thing in the popular consciousness.

[@Kevin-yp7yk]

That's an accurate representation of anime

[@DeadKraken]

@@KeithFraser82 I read in the comments that both of the main characters were supposed to be around 13 in the book, which makes much more sense to you know.......everything. Also makes it 100% shounen trash lmao

[@jayman3122]

😆 yeah, I can see that.

[@freshhh1553]

This is basically a shifty Hollywood version of JOJO

[@DanielTorres-vu3gt]

For 3 books in one movie, they did great getting it all in there, but they really should’ve made it in three movies so that it wasn’t so random, the novels are a whole journey, very exhausting and emotional, and most of the journey was cut out, like the alien fight led to a much more emotional “I can’t believe i killed a spackle that was just mindin its business” and then killing the mayors son when he was running away and started becoming very cold and guilty, while viola began to worry for him, it was all very tasteful but not really suitable for constant thriller

[@mrgoatman6202]

Oh my god I just realised chaos walking is an adaptation of The knife of never letting go. I now understand what people who liked the artemis fowl book series felt like.

[@forcene736]

I like how you cut your videos, your humor, overall your channel is my favorite channel and you inspire me Filmento. Keep up the great work :)

[@franzoloranzo7302]

Shame on you KZbin, for not telling me about the new Filmende video!

[@QWUH444]

The mayor hated the women because he couldn’t read their thoughts. In the books I believe he told the men the women were scheming and so the men had lots of distrust and resentment and killed them themselves. This was my fave series in early high school before I understood the underlying problems with it. Your issues with the movie seems to come from context issues from not knowing the novel series - I bet if you read the original series you would understand a lot more about it. Either way I agree it shouldn’t be a normal length movie. To be genuinely on the same page as the book it would have to slow down and become a several part series, like how Twilight spaced itself out. Just my two cents nobody asked for. 😎

[@akhilnair1137]

Based off of a decent book series, director of edge of tomorrow, and a really good cast. I don't see how this movie could've gone wrong.

[@theapexsurvivor9538]

Points to every other good book with a good director that has been butchered by Hollyweird.

[@FrankCastle-tq9bz]

“Edge of Tomorrow” was an inferior version of “All You Need is Kill” - I can’t say I am surprised to learn that this film failed...

[@akhilnair1137]

@@FrankCastle-tq9bz 🤦‍♂️of course it is. One's a manga spanning multiple chapters, and the other is a standalone movie. Infact what they achieved with the movie was far more difficult than the manga since they had less time to show a lot of the plot, and they still managed to create one of the best screenplays for an action sci fi movie.

[@topsiecurrets6812]

Hollywood was apart of it, thats how it went wrong.

[@drewlovelyhell4892]

A really good cast, and Daisy Ridley.

[@edsp666]

The books were fantastic and I would recommend them to anyone. They never should have been made into a movie, I knew straight away it wasn't going to do well as soon as they announced it. Please please read the books.

[@reikunator9066]

"The books were fantastic" "They never should have made it into a movie" I've heard this phrase many times yet it still hurts

[@reikunator9066]

Whats the title of the books btw?

[@edsp666]

@@reikunator9066 they are The Chaos Walking Trilogy: 1st- The Knife of Never Letting Go 2nd- The Ask and the Answer 3rd- Monsters of Men Please check them out!

[@reikunator9066]

@@edsp666 Ty! I've loved the concept when Filmento started talking about it

[@reallyhimongod]

No dude we’re not gonna read the damn books forget about it

[@ClearTheRubble7]

Very true, and an issue I run into constantly in my game developing. Having too many "high concepts" in a game is almost the opposite of "writer's block;" instead of getting stuck creatively, you find yourself having too many ideas and feeling the need to throw all of them in because they all seem so cool. The game--just like a movie or a novel--becomes a complicated, user-unfriendly mess in the process.

[@cyan.cephalopod]

I hope someone picks up the idea and tries again. I think it has so much potential, and the way they animated it is gorgeous

[@theobsidiansimp8626]

Ah shit this is based on a fantastic book series, the entry title of which is The Knife of Never Letting Go. Don’t let this movie turn you away from reading them.

[@enigma19833]

I'm getting war flashbacks to 2008 and seeing The Golden Compass...

[@victorsjostedt4393]

*[Eragon flashbacks]*

[@redacted144]

forgive me, I'm gonna commit a cinema warcrime Dragonball live action

[@official.m.k.gundal3573]

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[@sorariku9620]

@@enigma19833 at least BBC's His Dark Materials is amazing and does justice to the series. I'm convinced book adaptions just do better as television series.

[@My6119]

This movie is literally a writing prompt I read on pinterest, except the prompt included a restaurant

[@lr514]

Gib post nao I ned 🤲

[@Silver_Spectre]

This really shows that the era of movie stars bringing in Audiences if Spider-Man and Rey Palpatine among some other big names couldn’t bring in the numbers

[@NexusKin]

If the core movie is not made well, it doesn't matter how many big-name recognizable stars are in it, it will still suck.

[@switchplayer1016]

@@NexusKin you can put all the whip cream you want on a log of shit. Still won't make me want to eat it.

[@luma4902]

To be really fair there is a pandemic

[@ezrataylor2956]

@@luma4902 Godzilla vs Kong tho?

[@mysteryace2129]

Idk some movie called Cell with Samuel L. Jackson and John Cusack I believe was pretty damn good although the movie plot was trash. Those two actors just made it work somehow.

[@dazskadi612]

I couldn't figure out why i was confused while i was watching this movie, you have helped me greatly. I completely agree all the concepts didn't line up. I really liked people using their thoughts in the visual sense, i thought that was a clever concept, but it still felt flat because I was wondering where the aliens were

[@dupersuper6516]

I remember thinking, how can a movie be "unreleaseable", like what did you do Oh man

[@bluemountain4181]

Almost makes you want to see it to see how bad it was before the reshoots and editing #ReleaseTheUnreleasableCut

[@outliv]

The book series is a favorite of mine, sucks to see this movie probably turned off so many potential readers of the series

[@magicallydelicious1673]

Shadow and bone got an amazing multiple episode series and we got... this? TT bruuuuhhhhh

[@viciousspectre523]

Nobody reads wtf..

[@newdivide9882]

If anything, it makes me want to read the books. I’d never heard of them or this movie before watching the video

[@borealkibbles5982]

@@newdivide9882 books are very good! Its been a while since I read them but the mayor has more character development the aliens are more then aliens. The books actually connects

[@rexa2851]

@@viciousspectre523 what?

[@genebaker511]

A movie starring Iron-Boy and the "Most Famous Nobody the Galaxy Has Never Known."

[@ninjanibba4259]

Spiderman

[@bryanrance5940]

1:30 ➡️ livegirls19. com ⤵️ B.e.S.T f'u"l'l D.a.T.i.n.G h.o.T G.i.r.L's -L-o-V-e-S-e-X---❤️😘 ..👍 !💖🖤❤️今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです！この日のライブ配信は、かならりやばかったですね！１万人を超える人が見ていたもん（笑）やっぱり人参最高！まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした,. 💖🖤在整個人類歷史上，強者，富人和具有狡猾特質的人捕食部落，氏族，城鎮，城市和鄉村中的弱者，無`'守和貧窮成員。然而，人類的生存意願迫使那些被拒絕，被剝奪或摧毀的基本需求的人們找到了一種生活方式，並繼續將其DNA融入不斷發展的人類社會。. 說到食物，不要以為那些被拒絕的人只吃垃圾。相反，他們學會了在被忽視的肉類和蔬菜中尋找營養。他們學會了清潔，切塊，調味和慢燉慢燉的野菜和肉類，在食品市場上被忽略的部分家用蔬菜和肉類，並且學會了使用芳香的木煙（如山核桃，山核桃和豆科灌木 來調味g食物煮的時候 1619511527

[@GrumpySylveon]

Context: the books cover says: 9soon to be released as a major motion picture.” That was in 2012.

[@jonnyquatromusic]

I love that “no women” is a high-concept idea. 😂

[@jlupus8804]

So now my dating life’s a high concept idea- lucky me

[@Guitar-Dog]

Yeah when your movie is about 4 separate things you can’t criticise it correctly 😅

[@ther_ternum6712]

@@jlupus8804 So you only date men?

[@MrlspPrt]

The worst part is that even Dragon Ball managed it better when Goku meets Bulma...

[@jlupus8804]

@@ther_ternum6712 uhhh no 😆