CHAOTIC Sunday: 17 mile long run, BIG life update & my undiagnosed ADHD

[@KevinStraw]

Hi Phil I’m a 63 year old retired male, so not your usual demographic. Had a bit of a stroke 3 years ago, but back to running now, and am not falling over anymore. Did the local, Wakefield, 10k yesterday, targeted 54 minutes, but followed your advice. I ran the mile (kilometre) I was in, not the race as a whole. I went for a negative split and ended up finishing in 52:30. Thanks for your help. Love the grind. Love your channel ❤

[@1519Spring]

Stroke recovery can be a grind. All the best to you in your journey!

[@KevinStraw]

Thanks😀@@1519Spring

[@pauljacques83]

Philly can you do a video on the new balance/coach parting of the ways for those of us not on Instagram

[@geoffh2560]

Daniel on fire with the editing on this one - love it!

[@beastie824]

You are the first person that I have ever witnessed to use tongs to remove food from the toaster... you have changed my life. 💜

[@maggie5018]

Watching Phily on a sunny Sunday - a new fav ritual is evolving and I think I love it ❤️

[@synik224]

this video is delaying my long run

[@synik224]

update: I got it done.. half video before the run, half after.

[@Jess-Rabbit]

@@synik224 good job! How long was your long run today?

[@synik224]

@@Jess-Rabbit 12km for me.... first time back over 10km since mid last year when I hurt my knee, so I'm happy.

[@McFearless80]

As a pretentious coffee person that coffee scene was absolutely painful. ❤

[@PhilyBowden]

Not even sorry

[@PaddyQuiggin]

I know right. Not even weighing the pre-ground coffee was just the start of it.

[@pollykw1109]

great video helping me procrastinate my intervals sesh! so refreshing to see a runner on social media being reallll™️

[@lorifurr2899]

You and Daniel make my Sunday mornings! I never know how much I will laugh or cry or both when I watch your video!

[@rebeccahoffer4050]

These videos are amazing Philly. You are so cool and authentic!! Feeling lucky to watch a badass runner like you just be normal and relatable…other than your paces 🥲

[@justmeemi6350]

Worked in hospital this morning, was a tough shift, but then I saw this notification on my phone and knew everything will be okay 😊🌺🌻

[@PhilyBowden]

Aw this makes me so happy, and hope you're recuperating mentally and physically from that hard shift

[@justmeemi6350]

@@PhilyBowden I did, went for a run, made something delicious for dinner and watched your video 🥰

[@ellenmoeller]

I think I’ve watched this video three times, especially the ending and I have now made my own whiteboard and my life is forever changed! I am an opera singer, so dividing up my days between singing, practicing, teaching, and, of course, running, is always difficult during high-performance seasons. Thank you for this genius idea! All of my markers were wonky, but I’ve just gotten a fresh batch so next week it will look prettier. I will send you a screenshot. Love you and Daniel and love the grind!

[@AugherAndy]

I just love days in the life. You could just film weeks in your life. I love the monotony doesn't need to be exciting. Love ur videos

[@AVS_uk]

Video idea: how to make the perfect runners porridge Daniel idea: get an aeropress for the coffee - delicious but also quick Hat idea: Cat in the Hat style hat

[@CoachNyree]

I was going to ask the same thing!😅 how does she get the oats so thiccccc

[@bwkemes93]

Hey Phily! Great video as usual! Could you make a video on your yearly training schedule? I’m talking high level.. picking your races, how you section off parts of the year for base building, how long you do build ups for your A races, adding B races to the calendar?

[@trevorlangridge]

Really love a video of incorporating into a long run faster segments rather than just long and slooooow.

[@readersrock101]

i would love to see a video of you going through your warm up and strength routines!

[@mikestevenson1334]

Lol Daniel's face after the coffee was made =D

[@Tara_Masika]

I have ADHD. So I just want to let you know I watch each of your vids about 300 times. I put one on, and then do everything, but the things I need do, including watching your vid. I watch the whole thing in two minute bursts. That's a great thing, you actually hold my attention and give me get up and go. This message took me about 4 hours to type out 🤭❤

[@siobhan_collins]

I love when you ran Parkrun before, another video would be cool. Loving this video too!

[@wgfarrow1]

Few cheeky shots of Glossop! Making me miss home and ladybower even with that weather! Love the content, thank you guys!! 🎉

[@PaddyQuiggin]

The highlighting of the Nike Swoosh on your Ducks beanie is *interesting* in a video where you announce you're off NB.

[@timverkoyen8742]

Would love to know the reasoning behind leaving the team and coach. Very fun video again. Lovely!

[@fudbeer1]

Great Video.Running round ladybower is awesome particularly on a nice day.One of the few peak district long runs that is relatively flat.(although the climb on the way out is deceptively steep).

[@MollyRuns]

I had my first race recently and struggled a bit with the mindset side of things both before the race and during as well (confidence, reason why was doing it etc). Would absolutely love a detailed run through of the before race prep (mentally) and during as well ❤

[@ebrunner1315]

This video was so funny! I love how as a non coffee drinker, you have to make Daniel his pretentious coffee! Having a V60 dripper is one thing but the little hot water thing with the long spout and adding hot water at different times, wow! Love it!

[@stuartwalker6786]

DIY slot will have to be good to better the classic "Knots, oozing out their Knotty Juice!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@PhilyBowden]

Oooooh we have an old-timer here! I almost forgot about that one haha

[@annestrock4917]

Wow loved seeing the peak district. My husband and I drove through the area heading back to Manchester airport.. I remember thinking this would be a cool area to run in ( lots of fog that day!). I have similar hair and cut and use a spritz bottle to just refresh the curls so I don't have to wash it every day(oh the trials of curls😂)

[@MNP208]

“Hot Cross Buns” is the first song a US 4th grader learns to play on the recorder! 😂😂 I always wondered what they look like! Daniel needs to froth his milk to make his coffee more pretentious!

[@latebloomerabroad]

Good luck on your half marathon, Daniel! 👏

[@allyson--]

WHAT A GORGEOUS PLACE! i want to be there!!

[@clarapierskalla1466]

VIDEO IDEA HR Training. How have you been able to keep your HR so low and continue to run fast like a 7min pace / per mile. I have always had a hard time with my HR spiking to fast even if my pace per mile is 10min. Please make a video explaining how you been able to HR train and possibly give some tips on how to HR train, for faster paces and speed work. Also on how you have been able to keep your breathing in check and not have problems when the weather is bad, or cold, or humid.

[@valerieprema9432]

I would totally watch "cooking with Daniel" :D And, "EF Strategies with Phily" But on a (more serious note), I would love to see a video on fuelling strategies from both of you - my long runs are getting longer and there is so much information out there to sift through - what do you need, pre, during, post workout Also, glad to know I'm not the only post-run snacker....I have zero appetite after either a hard or long effort, and it takes everything in me to get me to eat after.

[@moremilesmorefun]

I always expect my gel's/fuel to start working right away lol way to go!!!

[@chaosrulerofall]

As a Oregonian I did the duck o sign when I saw all your green !!

[@sigmatau8231]

Philly running...poetry in motion

[@markbateman9222]

Hope all will be revealed about the split from New Balance and Helen Clitheroe. Does the switch mean that you are going to relocate away from Manchester? At least inform us whether it was purely a running decision - you felt that this coach had taken you as far as she could, happens quite a lot when an athlete has been with a coach for a few years -or whether other issues - loke change of kit sponsor or wanting to move location -were involved.

[@TheWaterlou25]

What about making a video about making your own training plan for the first time; general guidelines, tips, and must-haves

[@CraigRowand]

Sorry Philly, with Daniel on this. Can't beat a good V60 pour-over coffee!

[@nickthecat77]

That's a gorgeous cat!

[@rjsouthworth5246]

Just got back from a 17 mile run using one of Phily’s marathon workouts (3 easy, 3 MP, 3 easy, 5 MP, 3 easy) - felt good!

[@Jess-Rabbit]

That sounds fun! I like alternating paces

[@alexsavill]

Video idea: now that Daniel is a half-marathoner with some good miles under his belt, a fun little challenge to see how long he can hold Phily’s marathon pace. Get some audience participation with a poll and maybe some prizes for the winning guess (plus prizes for Daniel of course)

[@kierangolding737]

Cool video, I enjoy toasted hot cross bun with sliced red leicester cheese on top 🙂

[@christinabutterworth2546]

Hot cross bun, buttered up with a slice of mature cheddar ❤

[@danabc322]

Daniel lives! I was starting to think he was buried under a patio somewhere, given the lack of updates on his channel!

[@CoolInOlympia]

Love the green!

[@TiloDroid]

since im injured again, mby a video on what to do when injured, since im bored (and jealous of other runners)

[@PhilyBowden]

I'm prettu sure I made one of these about a year or so ago!

[@danis5216]

This is EXACTLY how I feel about making my boyfriends pretentious coffee, thank you for validating me ❤

[@PrincessBambi501]

I know youve done it on insta but... A follow along pre run activation would be great :)

[@synik224]

video idea: Daniel go buys a bunch of similar tea's (or even bigger idea, we all send in a bag of our local tea) and you need to do a blind taste test to pick which is PG tips (I think that's what you drink right?) Not running related, but maybe a kind of fun one.

[@PhilyBowden]

I am offended, I am a Yorkshire Tea convert through and through haha

[@synik224]

@@PhilyBowden ah I failed as a subscriber

[@demonas6661]

Great Video 😊

[@zyphal1371]

i think i speak for everyone when i say we need more footage of cat.

[@lottajarvi2907]

I love your content its so funny and refreshing 😂💗 question: how do you make sure to keep your iron levels up as a female long distance runner? For me running really lowered my ferritin levels which has meant a bit of a struggle with balancing getting in enough iron and still training. (It also made my adhd symptoms worse 😅)

[@PhilyBowden]

I use Spatone liquid iron rich sachets, softer on the somach than tablets (read - those give you explosive and unpredictable poops), and then give it time to test bloodwork again every 3-9 months or so

[@lottajarvi2907]

Thank you! I have been using tablets for now but good to know there are other options too 😅

[@jasonflorimonte3813]

I like to think I am the necessary catalyst for all the chill

[@MiguelJaramillo-v1w]

Saludos desde mexico 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️

[@annt7384]

It’s 28 degrees Fahrenheit here in Boston this morning. I can’t imagine anyone going out for a long run today. We had hints of springtime. Where did it go?

[@lmbk3294]

We should start a go fund me for a proper coffee machine for Daniel

[@PhilyBowden]

and for my sake please

[@kin.9133]

Rich Roll released a podcast episode with Kara Goucher this week

[@tinakohf]

Sorry, Phily, Daniel's coffee is correct! Although a french press is also good.

[@lucas1984]

I can't find anything about you leaving NB on yourInstagram I'm afraid?

[@jenniferconway7141]

Please can we get a Phily how to embrace your curls video?? 👩‍🦰😅

[@bbjunkie]

After the long run, have you tried a double dose of protein shake? Knocks the edge of my hunger, not sure if it’s a good idea but helps me from overeating!

[@bbjunkie]

I sense you didn’t want to talk about the split with you and NB / Coach, hope you’re ok & good luck with your new journey 👍

[@kevinmoore5101]

Completely random question, but what paint brand/colour is the green in your kitchen? It is 🔥🔥🔥! Keep grinding!

[@CityTrailRunner]

For some reason this video doesn't play when" restricted mode" is on. Just thought I'd mention it!

[@robertstenhouse3880]

Video idea: for first time marathon runners, is their an easy way to make sure you are adequately fuelled during training/the race? Or is it just trial and error? I'm new to the whole fuelling during races, as I've mainly done 10 and 5 k races. I've not typically had a session so far where I feel "the effect" or benefit of a gel during a run

[@PhilyBowden]

I'd say, in terms of in-race fuelling: 1 gel 20 mins before starting, and then test out a gel/carb-source every 30-40 mins in long runs to start with and see how that goes. I'd say runs of 1:45+ is where you start to feel the benefit vs not fuelling

[@rachkeepsrunning]

I'm trying so hard not to let my delulu brain take Daniel's pointing out of the Nike tick as an Easter egg 😅

[@miketomkins5171]

About the only coffee machine I don't have 😅

[@ellamartin9739]

The chaos

[@powlinable]

Misleading title! I tought you might talk a little about your ✨ undiagnosed ADHD ✨ very disappointed. Jokes aside, I have ADHD, I love running and whenever I am not, I have endless energy and I struggle focussing. The energy you share on KZbin and Social media is so relatable and refreshing. Always stay the fun, kind and chaotic person you are!

[@PhilyBowden]

Aha I think my behaviour speaks for itself! In all seriousness tho it’s something I may look into at some point the more and more it becomes a bit of a barrier to daily functioning/getting stuff done! And thank you - appreciate you!

[@trumpolina]

I need that green jacket! ps. Are you running the Bristol Track Club 5k this year? I saw you did it last year and came 2nd.... or 3rd!? I'm contemplating entering the non elite race! Though I'd have to prepare myself to come actual last... not many VW50s do the race, I think one did it last year and she's faster than me. Anyways.... come back and smash it.

[@andyranaway]

'1st Annual Phily Bowden Beer Mile' 'Charades w/ Phily & Daniel' 'Phily Goes Hat Shopping' 'Best of Cat Highlights' 'Fireside Chat w/ Phily'

[@Monkeytown609]

The H is there because Ghrelin stimulates growth hormone (GH) release and appetite. Trust me all those weird names make sense once you know what they do.

[@PaulButson-r2t]

Ghrelin has an 'h' because it comes from it's function - Growth Hormone RELease INducing

[@PhilyBowden]

oh damn I wish I was this smart haha

[@PaulButson-r2t]

😁

[@simonrunc8067]

Tea, minutes per mile, yup thats me

[@libbymarshall897]

What do you drink after a long run?

[@SamanthaTimmins-sk2di]

Will now only get out of bed for Scottish Phily

[@joaomatheus6222]

15:06 If she was T-posing, her jumper would spell out the rest of "Tada"

[@dienowska]

Video idea: Phily does stand-up/improv comedy to a non-runner audience (edit: live, in front of people)

[@EricS-uf9mv]

My only video idea is MORE cat content. I don't think the cat gets enough pets. We need to SEE the petting. 😼

[@chrisbarrera158]

Daniel’s high maintenance

[@marcusgrainger3329]

Terrific Elvis impression. Could be a new sideline career.

[@PhilyBowden]

thank you 😎

[@jochippyy]

I caught my dad eating an un-toasted hot cross bun today, I told him to leave......

[@goatbloat8233]

Not to make coffee more pretentious but Daniel should be fresh grinding the beans. It makes a big difference.

[@PhilyBowden]

shame on him

[@CryogenicFire]

Pro tip: add some melted cheese on top of each half of the not cross bun. It's scrumptious. Enjoy! 🤣

[@PhilyBowden]

woah this sounds so wrong but also quite enticing

[@mylesgibbons2377]

A track speedwork video, including warm up and cool down

[@cerianthus]

Get Daniel an aeropress:-). Or an expensive coffee machine.

[@T1MB05L1C3]

Ya know, one more mile and you would've ran 69.69 miles, which would be very nice

[@PhilyBowden]

fml

[@abewearsshades2736]

I watch all your vids and shamefully this is my first comment… well actually question. How the heck did you draw that straight of a line on the whiteboard!!?😂

[@PhilyBowden]

I am a woman of many talents 😎

[@soomad]

Yeah its been obvious from your videos for a while that you probably have ADHD. The reasons behind the life update also sound a bit ADHD-related based on the IG post. But as someone only undergoing the diagnostic process for ADHD (i.e. unmedicated for over 30 years) I'm so freaking jealous that you've been able to maintain running thos long and tl reach success. That's a freaking amazing achievement!

[@PhilyBowden]

aha yeah I dunno if I'll seek a diagnosis tbh, if it would lead to something helpful to maybe reduce some of the negative sides of how I function maybe. On the life update side of things, I don't think its ADHD-related, lots to unpack there and all I can really say at this point is some things aren't quite what they seem, definitely onto the right path now which is what matters!

[@edouarddoudounovic4230]

You need to weigh in the coffee, the water you pour. And please rince your filter. Worst coffee ever :P

[@johnk8475]

ADHD'ers UNITE!!!!!

[@brynmordey2659]

I have autism so am also neurodiverse.

[@joshuamullins4074]

Wait hot cross buns are real

[@glenn1534]

More cat content 🙃

[@luanadotcom]

I can't get over not washing your hair after a run though 😮😂

[@andyranaway]

also... don't really want subliminal trump messaging, thanks!

[@Laurap01]

Please don’t self diagnose. If you thought you had diabetes, you would go and get it checked out by a doctor, NOT go around telling people you have it. It’s fine to say you think you have something, but not even doctors can diagnose themselves.

[@babishamgirl]

Unfortunately diagnosis of diabetes is free in the UK, diagnosis of ADHD costs about £7000 if you pay yourself or can be a 6 year wait on the NHS. Self diagnosis of ADHD and Autism is valid and some research suggests it’s a fairly sensitive measure

[@Laurap01]

@@babishamgirl It’s okay to say you think you have something and read about techniques to help, but telling people you HAVE something when you don’t is dishonest and deceiving. We often have a biased view of ourselves, it would never be an accurate or trusted assessment. And diagnosis is £500-£1000. Not sure where you got £7k from.

[@babishamgirl]

@@Laurap01 I think you’re wrong but that’s okay. And the £7000 includes private prescriptions, medicine reviews and everything else that is included in a private diagnosis. You seem really cross about this and rather defensive and I’m not sure why. If people want to say they’ve got ADHD or Autism then they can.

[@Laurap01]

@@babishamgirl You can actually be referred back to your GP for medication etc. I’m cross because it causes problems for people actually diagnosed with these conditions. Fair enough if it was a small minority of people who, hypothetically, did actually have autism or ADHD but I think you are overestimating the intelligence of most people self diagnosing.

[@babishamgirl]

@@Laurap01 the evidence tends to be that people who self refer, wait the NHS times or pay themselves generally do have ADHD or Autism, but I can see that we’re not going to agree on the matter.

[@jacobmatthew5298]

I’ve tried to like your channel but unlike other runners making content yours is strictly about you… which is a shame because your channel could be good…

[@latebloomerabroad]

I just went to Instagram and I can’t find the post. (I’ve been following you on KZbin for 18 months, but for some reason forgot Instagram). The posts aren’t listed in order & there are no sort options…HELP, someone! I want to know why Phily left New Balance Manchester and her coach!

[@PhilyBowden]

It's the last static post I shared, the one with a picture of me in a group waving

[@EricS-uf9mv]

When you find the post, can you provide a quick breakdown for those of us who are FB/Insta/Twitter/Zuck/Elon challenged? I deleted my accts and don't plan on going back ever.

[@tkldr]

Text is here: Saying farewell to Team New Balance Manchester It's taken me a while to write this and as I do, I sit here with mixed emotions. In November 2022 @daniel_moves_and I sold our first home in Reading, and moved up to Manchester to join @teamnbmcr and to fully commit to my running goals. Without this big move, I probably would've never quit my full-time job as a civil servant, or learned how to fully support my running career through coaching, KZbin and starting a business with Daniel, my ride or die. I've loved putting running first, shaping everything I do around my running-week. I've learned from athletes far more experienced, talented and hardworking than myself and I hope l've taken on just a fraction of their commitment. I've made some friends for life and have come a long way in improving my own performances with their help. Alongside my departure from the team, l'm also closing a 4-year chapter with long-time coach, friend and mentor @clitherstherunner - Had I not connected with Helen back in 2020 | highly doubt l'd still be running today and I owe her a lot for helping me find my love for running again, regaining my confidence to compete, and for getting me well under way in the world of marathon running. Careers in running are short and now feels like the right time for a change to ensure I continue loving this sport and growing as a competitor. We'll be sticking around in t'North for the foreseeable, continuing to fund my running career through my coaching and content work. I remain fully committed to some lofty goals but will no longer have the kit and shoe support from a brand, for now. Most of all I'm excited for what's next and thankful for what has been

[@latebloomerabroad]

@@PhilyBowdenThanks, I found it!

[@latebloomerabroad]

@@EricS-uf9mvHere's my summary (forgive any errors, Phily & Daniel): She and Daniel Moved from Reading to Manchester in November 2022 to commit to her running. Without that move, she wouldn’t have quit her full-time job or committed to being a professional runner, coach, KZbinr, or started the business with Daniel. (She called him her “ride or die”, so sweet!) She thanked the runners on Team New Balance Manchester for helping her and being her friends. She didn't say what's happening next!

[@cattpoops21]

Phily have you tried wetting your hair with water in a spray bottle and then giving your hair a scrunch and reapplying some curl cream or leave-in? Might help to refresh your hair post run. Mine is a curly bob and this seems to fix my stretched out curves post run!