Chapter 22: Owl Post Again | Prisoner of Azkaban

[@brendanlee14]

Already at the end of Book 3. Time flies. Can’t imagine how different my life will be by the time Deathly Hallows wraps up

[@CalebNickles]

2.73 years if they were to do everything back to back to back so maybe 3 years before everything is done

[@bghiggy]

I hope they go through beetle the bard, quidditch through the ages, and fantastic beasts too.

[@brookchristy8311]

I literally cannot believe it's been this long. I remember them saying this was an idea they had. I was sooooo excited.

[@Deneph]

I know I remember when they started I was like “I’m going to have a 6 month old by the time they’re at the end of POA” and here we are

[@CalebNickles]

@Deneph thats actually beautiful i wont lie, you will have a 3 year old by the time the podcast is done

[@halimelachkar8029]

Hello J and Ben, I hold a PhD in Astrophysics and can confirm that what you’re saying about the full moon is accurate. The full moon reaches 100% illumination for only a brief moment. While it appears "full" for about two days before and after this moment, the actual point of 100% illumination lasts only an instant.

[@brettjacobsen]

When does the moment of full illumination happen?

[@bluecollar5186]

Professor, please descibe when the full moon happens?

You mean maximum illumination? Because the sun is a lot bigger than the moon, so it shines on >50% of the surface, so full moon should last quite a while.

[@Artemis_F0wl]

yeah, it might not be a long duration but it is more than an instant. when you look up the next full moon it shoud give you a time down to the minute though.

[@brettjacobsen]

@@Artemis_F0wl thanks

[@mistv901]

One of my favorite forgotten Ron moments is in this chapter. He takes the little owl Sirius gifted him, and holds him up to Crookshanks to take a sniff. Just to make totally sure he is an owl. It shows that he trusts both Crookshanks and Hermione's judgment again, and that he's sorry he didn't do so earlier. Ron doesn't always use the words, but his actions always show it. Those speak far louder, and prove he really took the lesson to heart. Which is far more than I can say for a lot of people I've known in my life.

[@6666Imperator]

He also has probably a bit of a fresh trauma learning that he spent years with an adult man who also happens to be a murderer who should have been in Askaban

[@mistv901]

@6666Imperator Totally! Also think about poor Percy when he finally knows. He had the rat for longer.

[@RoberttheWise]

24:00 This becomes even funnier when you remember that at this point Dumbledore has at least one large brandy's worth of a buzz xD

[@alankarst86]

Really gotta enunciate the “tt” in “batty” because Dumbledor thinking Trelawny is “a little batty” evokes a much different feeling than dunbledore calling her “a little baddie”

[@conormurphy4328]

😏

[@jwalters15216]

Trelawney more like... Trelhorny!

[@zack_feldman]

My five year old just walked over with a huge smile hearing you guys talk and just said “pocketed it!”

[@conormurphy4328]

Flexing on Stephen Fry

[@lauramarschmallow2922]

I think as the epilog is in 2017, when Harry is 37 and wizzards regularly live to be older than 100 there is still time he can be a teacher who can tell A BUNCH of cool stories to his students about his adventures as an auror.

[@TardisCoreST]

Well, my theory why a stag seemed a strange form for Harry's patronus to Dumbledore at first was because he knew that Snape's patronus was a doe because of Lily. The night when they arranged Snape killing him couldn't have been the first time he's seen Snape's patronus - I can't imagine he could have worked with him for years and not seen it at least once. So without knowing that James turned into a stag the coinsidence was probably pretty weird to him.

[@JolienBracke]

My thoughts exactly i feel like dumbledore would have made a connection between the two.

[@cton3d]

I came here to say the same thing!

[@Bottomlandtrailcams304]

As for the foreshadowing of Harry sitting in Lupins vacated chair, I think it's a silly hill to die on that he needed to be the DADA teacher *immediately* after the war. Let him be an Auror for 20 years or so **then** become the professor, I think that's perfectly reasonable

[@chris-hz2wd]

Agreed, even with curse child which I don’t personally include in my head canon, Harry is still young enough to have a full career as a DADA professor if he chose to

[@42speedybeattie]

A good reason for Harry to be a teacher is that he is less likely to be bested in combat and have the Elder Wand change allegiance.

[@chris-hz2wd]

@ something the movie got right was Harry breaking the wand it’s the right thing to do

[@hishmab.75]

I can see him waiting all his children to finish their Hogwarts time and THEN go to teach DADA there. I'm imagining that Lily is at most 2 years younger than Albus; meaning that from the epilogue time, she would finish at Hogwarts 9 or 10 years after. Harry would be 46/47. So at 48 years old, Harry would take on the post of DADA teacher

[@Acromion11]

People who go straight to teaching positions straight after college, without real world experience are worst teachers possible and I can't take them seriously. (TBH Harry already had a lot of experience in the field by his 18th birthday but would still benefit from actual Auror job)

[@DuskMoment]

Year 3: Harry produces a corporeal patronus in front of the whole school. Year 5: Everyone (including students who would have been at that match) is astonished at the suggestion that he might be able to do that spell. Was everyone except Dumbledore too fixated on Harry's broom to notice the big glowing thing?

[@KrivitskyM]

They might not know what Patronus is or what it looks like, considering it's a highly advanced magic.

[@phillipmonson1003]

How they got back to the hospital wing, they'll never know. Seems like a perfect time to pull that one back out

[@Vi_Vi_1]

I thought of this exactly 😂 it's not unreasonable to just put a: "They rushed back up to the hospital wing, careful not to be spotted." And call it a day lol

[@trytontck5447]

1:18:00 Luna is derived from the latin word for moon which is meant to be a reference to Lupin who's nickname is Moony

[@vidaraarstad7018]

Congratz on finishing up book 3! As many others, it has become my sunday tradition to listen to your podcast. Really looking forward to book 4. You guys do amazing work!

[@jacquelineg4877]

I loved the Flipendo reference! It gave me a good chuckle. I also agree that while Dumbledore trusts Snape, he doesn’t like him because he seems to have too much fun kind of messing with him.

[@brookchristy8311]

"If any of you have played the video games ..." Ahhh J underestimates how much Carlin Brothers I watch because that's why I know that reference 😂

[@conormurphy4328]

“You disgust me”

[@tineboes2726]

About Snape bring in James’ debt, and how that ties back to book 1, Dumbledore actually does give that answer in the hospital wing at the end of book 1! He says that he believes Snape worked so hard to protect him (for example, with the broom) because he couldn’t stand being in James’ debt. This leaves an interesting thread that this ‘I saved your life’ debt can be paid off, but afterwards Snape kept protecting Harry because of Lily

[@SottieRae]

Love this little Sunday tradition

[@lisacox4984]

Fudge is such a politician! The moment when Ron asks Crookshanks if the owl is really an owl is so cute and a character arc development.

[@conormurphy4328]

He’s definitely mean to be a caricature of a politician. There’s a fair amount of what could be considers political satire through the books.

[@6666Imperator]

Yes, it feels like a purposeful critic on UK politics but aside from that there is some truth in worrying about the press. As a good example of it is the leader of NASA in The Martian who needs to worry about the press because 1 bad decision could lead to many people getting sacked. Fudge, you could argue, wants good press because the escape of Black frightened many citizens and probably caused some sort of problems within day to day life. As a leader you do have to consider a lot of things aside of right or wrong due to the complexity of modern life

[@lisacox4984]

@@conormurphy4328 Interesting! I did not notice any satire (cynical me, I reckon).

[@lisacox4984]

@@6666Imperator The press--yep; there are so many perspectives to take into consideration. Cynical me was focusing on the surface-oriented vibes, tho' those vibes can be found in any field!

[@6666Imperator]

@lisacox4984 thats fine. I also don't want to excempt Fudge too much. He does lack leadership which is felt when times get tougher in the next books. My arguement is more from a more general perspective that it is not entirely wrong to have press/other things in mind when you are in a position as he is.

[@samhollier6929]

Wow, a whole year has gone already, and that's 3 books down. This series is great! Really looking forward to the next books. Good job, Brothers.

[@bklothis5502]

Not just the beginning of this series, but my life has changed so much since the beginning of this book. Prisoner of Azkaban has always been my favorite in the series and I was so excited to see you guys go through it. But during the course of this book, my long-term ex-girlfriend and I stopped seeing each other. I can never imagine how much my life would be different by the end of this series. But you guys have given me something to smile about and look forward to every Sunday. Looking forward to more than a year dedicated to goblet of fire!

[@Stark-Raving]

The conversation Harry had with Luna following Sirius' death is all the reasoning for Lily Luna I need, though there are others. Luna was an amazing friend to Harry once brought into the fold.

[@belletelaraboutique5141]

I think Harry's patronus would still have been a stag at the quidditch match, and Dumbledore finds it odd because he knows what patronus James, Lily, and Snape all have. He's probably amazed at the connection Harry already has with his parents without even knowing it.

[@sarahharmsa0126]

Right, I just figured James’s patronus was a stag and that’s why it was interesting to Dumbledore

[@TheRealRehman]

I am now imagining Snape kicking the door like Kuzco in the emperors new groove. "Boom baby!"

[@PatheticApathetic]

1:19:30 yes, he was, unequivocally. He was playing double agent against the most dangerous dark wizard who ever lived. He was absolutely the bravest man Harry ever knew

[@GubbiGap]

This book now has even more meaning to me :D I had a great experience inspired by it and I'll remember it forever! I'm educating as a high school teacher and as a part of it I'm at a school teaching every Monday and I have a student who struggles to present in front of the class. She also generally struggles just talking to me and my classmates from the education. I talked to her and asked her if she knew Harry Potter and when she said yes I asked if she remembers the boggart lesson with Lupin and she said she did. I asked her to either draw or print out a classroom and an examination room with people on it and basically told her to then dress them up in funny clothes and decorate the room with stuff that makes her happy or laugh and then when she presents she can think about her drawings and say "Ridiculous" in her mind and if she at some point feels like it's not going well take a deep breath and think of "Ridiculous" again. Two weeks later I asked her if she had done the drawings and she no but she had presented in front of the class and picturing people in funny clothes and saying "Ridiculous" in her mind had helped her a lot. She said she's gonna keep doing that and then we high-fived :D

[@resathe6760]

Everytime J yawns in a Through the Griffin Door video I make a little mental checkmark 😅 I don't know when it started to happen but I can't not notice it now 🙈If I ever rewatch the series from the beginning I will definitely make a list in how many videos he doesn't yawn. I hope your sleep schedule improves, J 😅

[@Livruss]

I know! Always yawning!😂

[@rook9860]

Thats funny it always stands out to me as well. I'm not even sure why.

[@casabonitaaa]

lol he has like 3 kids under 5 bro 🤣😭

[@ginnyjollykidd]

Jonathan's kids jumping and somersaulting off rocks? That sounds like the Twins and Ron stealing the Ford Anglia! Arthur said, "How did it go?" but Molly puts him to rights, so continues, "I mean that was very wrong of you boys!"

[@tiinakarmala633]

I was going to say the same! :)

[@ShmiMonika]

I always thought Dumbledore's comment about patronus wasn't about how unusual his patronus was for Harry but how unusual his patronus was in general for the wizarding world as, according to Pottermore, the form reflects the person, and the most common are the forms of the more common animals. A stag, while a rather well-known animal in the UK, is still perceived as somewhat extraordinary as they are often considered to be kings of the forest and are considered to be rather majestic

[@jenniedarling3710]

They are very common in parts of Scotland, I've seen several on the Isle of Mull.

[@lisacox4984]

The loved ones who never leave us line hit me really hard 'cause my mom passed away on July 1, tho' it had already hit me hard 'cause I still miss my grandparents. My mom was the one who bought Philosopher's Stone at an independently-owned bookstore in 2000 or 2001 (don't remember exactly) tho' she never did read it. She and I went to see Prisoner of Azkaban at the cinema (I'd seen the first two movies on video) and then she and my dad and I saw the rest of the movies at the cinema. My dad has seen part of Prisoner when I've been watching it on tv. It's always great to listen to the podcast! Onward to Chapter One of Goblet of Fire!

[@gabrielesh7916]

What if the reason that "loads of wizards have died from time travel" is because they tried to change something rather than being a participant in it's change. For example, when Hermione stops Harry from grabbing the cloak at the base of the tree. If she hadn't, what if the act of changing that killed Harry? Other than it meaning that Hermione saved Harry several times that night, it would explain how wizards could get themselves killed AND keep with "everything that's happened has already happened."

[@Vi_Vi_1]

56:05 So J, you and your wife basically had an Arthur and Molly moment with the flying car 😂

[@xdancingintherain]

This is my favourite book of the series but I look forward to going through the meatier books with this podcast.

[@ShirleyLestrade]

Same I wonder how long it’ll be and how they’ll handle the live shows since they seem to be limited on time

[@muleman1701]

Ah finally done with book three and about to start book four. For me, book four was a difficult read. Tried three times to get past this book but each time I finished Chapter 23 something stopped me. First time was cataracts, second time was retinal detachment, retinal tear and complete blindness (which I am proud to say my sight was saved each time, both cataract and retinal detachment). Then on my third attempt i guess I was reading the three books by memory at that point but again, Chapter 23 of Goblet was as far as I got, and reading became an issue due to the oil gel in my that now holds the retina in place blurring the standard print book. So, I found the Libby library app and started reading the books as eBooks, now I can make the print large enough to read it. I started on the eBooks the September before this podcast started and what a journey! I just finished BOOK 7 a week before you guys finished book three on the podcast. Can't wait to see you guys start on Chapter 24 because then I shall be done with the curse placed on me by that part of the book. Looking forward to the rest of the series. Keep up the great work! Proud Gryffindor here.

[@oofiethetroll2059]

Dang, you have a Chapter 23 of Book 4 curse. Jokes aside, I'm glad you're okay, and I'm glad you finished the books.

[@muleman1701]

@oofiethetroll2059 Yep. I guess I do. 🙂 But I have muggle Doctors as good as Poppy Pomfrey. I too am glad I finished the books. It has taken me years to get this far. But, it's a goal accomplished and it makes me more sympathetic with Harry. But like him we made it to the end. Defeated our nemesis and can move on. I am just glad I had Harry Potter as support and encouragement. I knew if I made it through, I could finish my journey through Hogwarts with Harry. And I have. 🙂

[@nafaxx]

This is my favorite book in the series and i always hated how low you guys spoke of it. Im so pleased that this re-read has made you more fund of it and you appreciate it a little bit more. Love you guys! Keep up the good work❤

[@kevinm.7427]

Apologies if it was mentioned, but I feel that Snape is so unhinged in thr shack, devastated that Sirius got away, etc. is not only because of their childhood issues. At this time, he also would be under the impression that Sirius betrayed Lily to Voldemort by giving their location and getting her killed.

[@aud2d2]

That’s actually a really good point, hadn’t ever thought about that before! He thinks Sirius directly got the love of his life murdered

[@anaisabelpais7389]

I think Dumbledore calls Harry's stag unsual because he knows Snape's is a Doe (or at least I THINK he knows it at that time)

[@brandoncrow5048]

Harry sitting in lupins vacated seat feels like foreshadowing for the godfather role he takes on when Lupin and Tonks are killed

[@richewilson6394]

I love the practical effects in this movie and the scene where lupin is packing up.

[@masterpython]

Concerning how Sirius paid for the broom with notes. That is how cheques worked until computers.

[@The_Early_Gamer]

Speaking about Dumbledore's ability to know where people are and what's going on, he does compliment the weasley clock at one point. And that clock seems to work similarly to the marauders map but on a smaller/different scale, so there's precedent for a type of locating magic that he could be using.

[@johnribey1861]

A friggin Flipendo reference is wild in a book podcast 💀 Glad these two have played those games though, would love to see them play through all of the games and their multiple versions.

[@emmagraceling]

Re the patronus’s “unusual form” I’ve always taken that to mean that Harry’s patronus wasn’t fully formed/decided at the quidditch match and was more of a blob, then it became a proper stag at the end

[@Kylie-kq6dm]

I also thought that the patronus wasn't fully formed (so it only resembled a stag) at the quidditch game and that Dumbledore only realised it was a stag after he knew that that was James' animagus form. Also Dumbledore is a legillimens and a good guesser This would explain why nobody else told Harry because all they saw was "just" an uncorporeal patronus

[@salatsanxDD]

24:13 sorry Ben, little correction here. If he kicked the door open it was 100% not with a roundhouse kick. It could either have been with a side or a front kick, but most likely it was a front kick 🤭😉

[@chris-hz2wd]

Hey fellow gryffindork lags! Having this podcast to look forward to every Sunday is one r the highlights of my week! Cheers lads! Come to the UK on tour in the future sometime!

[@aliceepalermo5047]

Gryffindork lags 😂😂😂

[@aliceepalermo5047]

I also second coming to the UK!

[@chris-hz2wd]

@@aliceepalermo5047 us old gryffindork lags need to see the show live in the uk haha

[@lisacox4984]

A cat and a dog walk into Quality Quidditch Supplies and order a broom, LOL.

[@TheB0sss]

You were talking about how its weird that neither snape or fudge come up with the solution that it had to be a patronus that drove them away. I do agree that its silly, but my head canon now is that the amount of dementors that were there made snape believe that no one could produce a patronus that powerful.

[@El_Gera956]

I agree. In both snaps and fudge’s mind the idea that a 3rd year student could produce a patronus, let alone one so powerful to combat all those dementors” is inconceivable.

[@retraC_CS]

This series has been there for me all the way through college and it’s time to apply for med school 😢 keep up the great work guys

[@RainandGiraffes]

About the moon theory: What if the moon doesn’t trigger transformation before its 100% but if you get hit by direct moonlight before its completely full (the same night it will be) it will trigger your transformation a little early. So if the transformation would happen at 2 in the morning even if he’s in a dark room it could happen in the late evening if there’s no clouds. (And I assume the darker it is the more moonshine will hit you and you don’t get triggered while it’s still light because sun counter balances it a bit.) Lupin could have assumed he’d have a fair few hours left until transformation if it was just evening. And he might not have known about the early trigger or forgot because he’s always been so careful about keeping himself away.

[@tekbox7909]

I really like this theory

[@RainandGiraffes]

@ it works for me =)

[@melanietrader]

The time change woke me up right as this dropped

[@MulanBelle]

Where did you get the idea that Remus was like a father figure? He spent most of the year keeping up a professional teacher-student relationship with Harry and didn't reveal his friendship with James until circumstances forced it. And while Remus is a good teacher, he wasn't responsible when it came to student safety in regards to an escaped criminal. Rather than risk disappointing Dumbledore, he keeps quiet about Sirius being an Animagus and any possible ways that he could have snuck into Hogwarts. Yes, it turned out Sirius was innocent and Wormtail the actual traitor, but imagine how disastrous it could have turned out if that hadn't been the case. And the fact that Remus doesn't keep up contact with Harry, not even with the events in GoF, shows that he's not interested in being a father figure. At least in OotP Remus has the excuse of not writing due to letters possibly being intercepted and in HBP he has the excuse of being undercover with the other werewolves. Even if you argue that he's too poor to afford parchment and ink, well Sirius was on the run for an entire year and still managed to write to Harry.

[@keithg460]

I always felt like the books did a bad job with Lupin's and Sirius's character development. Lupin does sort of act like a father figure to Harry in year 3, yet he is never treated like that later in the series, and Harry doesn't expect gifts or anything from him. Yet Sirius was not treated like a father figure in book 3, he was seen as an enemy, but then suddenly Harry is writing to him in the summer and thinking of him as a proxy father. In book 4, his scar hurts, and Harry feels that the best person to write to is Sirius. What? How? It almost seems like Lupin and Sirius' character development swapped between books 3 and 4.

[@inkaviolet]

@@keithg460 agree on character development part. But I've always thought Harry's trust in Sirius was motivated by fact that he was his actual godfather and person whom his parents WANTED to take care of him. Also there was this time, before Hogwarts, when he dreamed about somebody with real power to take him from Dursleys, and Sirius had that power, even if they both knew there was obstacles - Sirius probably was actually aware, at least in book 5, that Harry can't left Privet Drive until Voldemort is defeated, that might be one of reasons why he was so gloom then. Remus had no such power.

[@ulrikruby]

Best part of the week.

[@rationaltrekker2509]

The profit from owl-post stamps are likely to go to feeding and upkeep of the owls.

[@animegirl2410]

I think the Dementors are simply just interested in Harry because while he's got the Horcrux within him, he's a rare delicacy and probably smells extra yummy to them. Like a Dementor sundae with 'extra' sprinkles.

[@tekbox7909]

Delicious pure and innocent soul with a topping of pure evil.

[@connie40star]

Only THE SUPER CARLIN BRO'S know how to wrap up THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN! Great job J and Ben, you guys make Sunday's the best. Can't wait till BOOK 4 GOBLET OF FIRE! I've already made mental k notes on chaptes 1,2,. & 3.

[@FEarLAsh1]

Prisoner of Azkadan is by far my favorite of the 7 Harry Potter books!

[@TradeUaPikachu]

I'm calling my friend Danny "Azka-Dan" from now on

[@brookchristy8311]

It was Bens favorite movie until he let everyone else make his choice on accident. He used to love it. And then slowly was like oh everyone says it's actually bad. And then he was on board yeah it's actually bad. I'm so glad he came back around to liking the book at least bc that's his opinion not swayed

[@BeardedTruth]

Love these 2 hour episodes!

[@heylolp9]

I think a huge problem with the time crunch at the end of the time turner shenanigans is that there is nothing in the book that says anything about stopping them to just time turn again on the way back Logically the time turner is probably still turning back, but it would have been nice to have a little line about that, maybe right at the start of the time turning shenanigans Something like: 'The time turner started slowly spinning back as Hermione hides it under her shirt. "Let's go" she says'

[@lauramiller4939]

In Order of the Phoenix (the book) it was Sirius that Harry thought about that freed him from possession. Only in the movie did it include memories of Ron and Hermione. In Philosopher's Stone, Dumbledore indicated that Snape helped Harry, hoping it would satisfy his debt to James for saving his life all those years ago.

[@Huff-and-Puff]

1:40:58 idk why Jay keeps saying he thinks Pig is stolen. Harry buys his owl from a shop, they intend to buy Hermione an owl from a shop. We already know Sirius bought the broomstick. What’s to say he didn’t also buy Pig. And he says “it’s the best I could do” because he probably doesn’t want to just walk into an owl emporium (he’s still considered a convicted murderer and escaped felon) and maybe he just ordered an owl and that was the best he could find while on the run? I’m not saying it’s not possible that he could have stolen him but it seems more likely he’d have purchased him. If he’s gonna take the money out of the vault to buy the world’s most expensive broomstick, surely he can afford a wee baby owl, right? And can an owl be “stolen?” If it’s already owned by someone can’t it just…. Fly back to the owner? Like if someone stole hedwig, she’d just…. Fly back to Harry. If Pig previously belonged to someone, I’m not sure he can be stolen and regifted to Ron.

[@ayeletarzouan6610]

My thoughts exactly!

[@Saquon_Deez]

Just wanna say thank you guys for still uploading these episodes at your set even when you do live ones! When I'm watching at home, I definitely prefer these quieter environments where it's just you two

[@saltshaker1118]

Chapters like this are why Dumbledore is my favourite character in the series

[@Avaliareborn]

The reason Harry’s patronus seems ‘unusual’ is because it’s so similar to Snape’s and Lily’s, at least the first of which he definitely knows

[@eliseandrea7476]

I can’t even explain how much I look forward to sundays because of you guys ❤

[@Armedus]

Sirius found Pig while escaping Hogwarts. He was shouting in triumph when the poor owl flew into his mouth.

[@KyraClark-j8j]

I think a good middle name for Lily would be Molly. It doesn’t flow as well as any others, but that way they have both their mother’s names. And it’s definitely not as bad as Renesmee.

[@GabiSheekey]

When J talked about his Latin class I got PTSD from listening to Mike Schubert when he brings up his Latin class every 5 minutes 😂

[@Bottomlandtrailcams304]

I'll never be able to accurately describe how reading the final chapter of each HP book makes me feel. I can still remember finishing PoA and being so sad that I had to wait for GoF. I had the luxury of starting the series after the first three were out, so when I got to the end of Azkaban, I wasn't sure what to do with myself. I wanted to dive right in to the next one but had to wait what felt like forever for it to release. The joy of saving the day but the sadness of returning to the Dursleys and the fear of what dangers await the next year... such a rollercoaster of emotions 😅😭

[@aryadne2004]

Sirius probably knows calligraphy because of his backround. Despite being a wild character, he grew up very rich, posh pureblood

[@conormurphy4328]

Definitely

[@randall8768]

Heal our hearts with a what if Harry got to live with sirius

[@smwad7103]

I think it’s funny Fudge says Snape is saying nonsense since this time he’s right but earlier when he was basically lying to Fudge he just believed it.

[@benjaminkenney3706]

Hey guys! I just wanted to point out one thing that you guys have mentioned a couple times in the last couple podcasts. A true full moon can only ever be seen at night as it always rises at sunset and sets at sunrise. It’s always on the opposite side of earth to the sun, that’s why it’s full! Also, I like to think that Lupin only becomes a wearwolf during the time where the moon is completely full, which is technically only an instant. It helps clear up the whole cloud cover problem anyways. Edit: I do have a degree in Astro and commented this before the review😭

[@samuelroth544]

1:42:45 As far as getting the gold out of the vault, I think Sirius must have given crookshanks his vault key. The key is enough for the goblins to let anyone get the gold out.

[@jonathanblackwell42]

Things to remember about lunar astronomy: you're dealing with high latitudes so times are way late. For June in Scotland and looking at the calendar: June 23rd, 1994 sunset time of 10:03pm, rising the following day at 4:27am. On the day of the full moon, the moon rises exactly at sunset and sets the following day at sunrise... everywhere. It's just the sunrise and sunset time that vary. As the moon doesn't get fully full until the height of its passage across the sky, it would be around 1:15am when the full moon would work its magic on Lupin. Geez... Execution at sunset would be a late night for everyone and would also explain why Dumbledore was wanting a large brandy: it was right before bed

[@jmace2424]

13:54 Harry will go on to say how Snape helped him. I’m pretty sure Harry gets Snape’s portrait put up in the Headmaster’s Office.

[@MystearicaClaws]

I'm moving for the lyanthropy discussions. Also a dog started howling in the apartment below me while watching this which is absolutely hilarious to me

[@thefonzpart]

1:16:37 Absolute funniest thing I have ever heard you guys say. I laughed out loud at work listening to this

[@Godly_Yeagerist_140]

To add to the amount of problems Hermione has to deal with in this book, she also had to deal with period, don't forget.💀

[@tiinakarmala633]

This is the book that I most want to be able to read for the first time again! And then again :)

[@neelr8119]

I think Lily Molly Potter would've been great. Named after both of her grandmothers, and while Molly is still alive, it's kept in the family

[@MulanBelle]

Percy named one of his two daughters Molly, so there's already a namesake. Not to mention that Ginny's middle name is also Molly.

[@Friggazee]

Wild to think Sirius's vault (711) is only two away from 713 where the stone was kept.

[@bananaspliitz9136]

1:10:32 listening to the boys discuss time travel and specifically the boot strap paradox just makes me wonder what they would think of the show Dark. It kinda makes my brain melt a little but I love it🤣💜

[@psychojoe4764]

"Voldys gone Moldy" is the line i repeat the most and I've definitely gotten some weird looks over

[@TheEternalPheonix]

5:53 It depends how big the newspaper is, but all rolled up and using the biggest available owls they might be able to have one owl carry multiple newspapers. Though even then it might require a rather large number of owls for delivery to be completed.

[@marcinz.3570]

Love you guys ❤️ I’m sick yet still have to work tomorrow so I’m gonna save this for when I’ll need it more (it’s tempting to listen to right now tho!)

[@finkiusmaximus]

I think "always" just adds to Remus reminiscing in the imperfect tense

[@CarlosDangerPowers]

The name Fred Jr was actually already taken by George and Angelina's kid. And in my headcanon, I've always imagined him being friends with the second James Potter. And now there's this duo that's a weird combo of the marauders and the Wesley twins running around causing mischief

[@Daddyoh94]

Mor *GRIFFIN DOOR!* Harry just teaches Defense Against Someone who went to school for Astronomy, with a minor in Lycanthropic Studies 😂

[@livtupi]

I think Dumbledore would think a more obvious patronus for harry would be an animal that flies, because in his first couple years in school it was so important how he was good at flying

[@Sandra.Molchanova]

I think I have an explanation for the 'cat ordering the broomstick out of somebody's vault' problem. I'm having my PoA book repaired at the moment so I can't check, but didn't you say that Sirius's vault was actually #711? That means Gringotts doesn't have names on the vault doors, it just has numbers; that's why Hagrid was able to retrieve the Philosopher's Stone in book 1 from vault #713, simply because he had the right key. I suppose the keys have some kind of a 'password protection' on them and the vault's rightful owner would be able to pass their key to an emissary if they wish, even if that emissary was a cat. I guess that means that Dumbledore was the rightful owner of vault #713 and he delegated the right to open it to Hagrid, while the vault itself belonged to either Hogwarts (as an institution) or the Dumbledore family

[@raz9305]

It may be that it's not "The Full Moon", rather it's the "Lunar Tides". I'm loving this adventure.

[@ArnoStew1]

Made it to the end of the 3rd book! I love these series, videos and podcasts. Thank you J and Ben! #HappyBirthdaySiriusBlack

[@anderssanggaard6215]

I think you missed the point of the reviews suggestion. It suggests, that the moon doesn't become full till the particular moment where the cloud happens to shift. So it has nothing to do with moonlight, but simply that every werewolf transforms at that exact moment, and that they are then in that state, either till the night is over or for a particular time frame or what not. The reason Rowling wrote the "a cloud shifted" was to not have some bad writing like "Lupin froze and started convulsing, the moon had become full"

[@jonasripplinger]

1:46:04 Wouldn't it be hilarious to imagine someone coming into Gringotts with a note that says something like "I, Mr Sirius Black, do hereby officially authorize Mr Crookshanks to retrieve a 100,000 galleons from Vault 711", and then next time Sirius wants to buy a present for Harry, the goblins have to inform him that there is simply no gold left in his vault to pay for it? XD XD XD

[@danielkopcha2011]

I look forward to your guys content each week. Didn’t realize Goblet was so long though.

[@ShadowDogProduction]

Lupin wouldn't need to be able to remember to know he hadn't ate anything, he'd just have to wake up hungry.

[@isabellarust3476]

It feels like just yesterday you guys were starting book 1. Now all the way to the end of book 3. How time does fly.

[@SilkBuckets]

its crazy that we are at the end of prisoner already. that absolutely flew

[@adriannacmielewski4457]

I think in terms of the Patronus, I believe I read somewhere (probably Pottermore?) that the most common ones are horses, cats & dogs because humans have over the years made the closest relationships with these animals. I think that’s what Dumbledore means by “unusual”.

[@laser8389]

1:07:15 ok, slight addition to the time turner functionality that just popped into my head (in the vein of “maybe not everything, but something very similar”): second-pass you has the power to do whatever you want, but if you deviate too far from what already happened (if Harry takes the invisibility cloak before Snape can, if they take Buckbeak before Fudge & Co. see him, if first-pass Harry sees second-pass Harry, eytc.), then it can cause irreparable harm. Like, they have an amount of freedom (it probably wouldn’t matter if Harry stepped off with his right foot vs his left), but if they don’t hit key points (show up at the lake looking like James, for example) it’ll fall apart.

[@KratosElGreatos]

I think the safest place from Voldemort would be the hospital wing. Madame Pomfrey would just tell him to leave.

[@Vi_Vi_1]

It's crazy to be at the end of book 3 already. I also feel like this just started, but at the same time this podcast has become part of my daily routine since it's the perfect thing for me to fall asleep to 😂 I'm weirdly proud that you guys have more appreciation for Prisoner of Azkaban now--it's always been my favorite book and I'm glad you guys can see more of its merit now 😊 It's amazing how big the rest of the books are--you got through the first 3 in just over a year, but like you point out, it's going to be most of a year per book for the next 4!