Chapter 6: The Journey From Platform Nine and Three-Quarters | Philosopher's Stone

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Through The Griffin Door

Through The Griffin Door

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Join J and Ben as they dive into Chapter 6 of the Philosopher’s Stone and discuss King’s Cross Station, Fred and George’s continuity, Trevor the toad, pronunciation, the beginning of Harry and Ron’s friendship, chocolate frog cards, Hermione’s intro, and Scabbers
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@pangolinsarecool
@pangolinsarecool 8 ай бұрын
To be honest, i always just assumed that Molly was trying to involve Ginny by asking what the platform number was. Like asking a kid what you need to buy from the shops or something
@geraldgrenier8132
@geraldgrenier8132 8 ай бұрын
Or where did we park in the parking lot
@occheermommy
@occheermommy 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. That’s how I always interpreted it.
@sarahkrig6375
@sarahkrig6375 8 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s definitely just a mom thing. Teaching you to pay attention and follow directions lol I’m surprised they’re both parents and missed that
@rosyellis14
@rosyellis14 8 ай бұрын
same
@dinahbacher551
@dinahbacher551 8 ай бұрын
Totally agree. It's all in the voice inflection. Or "What do we say when someone is nice to us?" "Thank you"
@kylascrochet
@kylascrochet 8 ай бұрын
What I like to think is that when Dumbledore left the chocolate frog card he was all excited because he saw Harry Potter and went to go tell the real Dumbledore.
@NeverKissSomeFrog123
@NeverKissSomeFrog123 8 ай бұрын
That’s hilarious!
@IAmMissingnoMaster
@IAmMissingnoMaster 8 ай бұрын
Welp, that's my headcanon now.
@Lupinemancer87
@Lupinemancer87 7 ай бұрын
@@IAmMissingnoMaster Mine as well!
@Jake-hw9kp
@Jake-hw9kp 26 күн бұрын
I feel like there being no Harry Potter card was a missed opportunity.
@MrEvanNoyes
@MrEvanNoyes 17 күн бұрын
@@Jake-hw9kpNo
@eweasel1
@eweasel1 8 ай бұрын
It has long been my head cannon that Hermine's family probably got a room at the Leaky Cauldron and stayed in Diagon alley for a week or two over the summer. During this time the parents got to know this strange new world, that they where sending their 11 year old daughter into, and Hermine tried out a few spells in her new books.
@NeverKissSomeFrog123
@NeverKissSomeFrog123 8 ай бұрын
I love this headcanon! Great idea and makes sense
@chandrasunny
@chandrasunny 7 ай бұрын
Certainly she would have had the chance to try spells while in Diagon Alley. I didn't think about an extended stay but that makes so much sense!
@lai-dee_flegman
@lai-dee_flegman 8 ай бұрын
The 'keep your hair on' line is a British saying to tell someone to calm down for anyone interested 😊😊
@dvdh4856
@dvdh4856 8 ай бұрын
As a Dutchie, I was so confused by their confusal of this saying. I had no idea it was a British thing only, I thought it was just a general English saying lol
@lai-dee_flegman
@lai-dee_flegman 8 ай бұрын
@@dvdh4856 gotta say same, I hadn't realised how many sayings we had that Americans just don't use or understand lol
@jb888888888
@jb888888888 7 ай бұрын
There is (or was) a similar phrase I've encountered in older US media, "don't flip your wig." It doesn't mean that the person actually wears a wig.
@bellarina187
@bellarina187 5 ай бұрын
Ik! Like she’s not wearing a wig lol
@Jake-hw9kp
@Jake-hw9kp 26 күн бұрын
@@dvdh4856I love that this book series introduced the world to some of our quirky little phrases.
@geraldgrenier8132
@geraldgrenier8132 8 ай бұрын
Of course, Molly knows what platform number is. She is using a parental trick of engagement with her children. It was an opportunity for Ron or Ginny to answer
@AaronJamesMediaProductions
@AaronJamesMediaProductions 8 ай бұрын
I had the same thought
@klaudiagrob
@klaudiagrob 8 ай бұрын
It was to test them.
@JahanMisra
@JahanMisra 8 ай бұрын
their siblings have been going for pretty much their whole lives though. they must be looking forward to going and have heard their family talk about the platform. they probably have even gone along before since it doesn’t seem like they’d leave two of their kids when all the others get to go
@MrKahrum
@MrKahrum 8 ай бұрын
not a test for the kids. it was for Harry, looking lost, with an owl.
@IAmMissingnoMaster
@IAmMissingnoMaster 8 ай бұрын
@@MrKahrum I mean, could've been that too, but I always perceived it as her testing to see if Ron knew, this being his first year. Hell, could've been intended as both. Two birds with one stone.
@hufflepom
@hufflepom 8 ай бұрын
The best part about Trevor running free is that we learn that a Basilisk is born when a chicken egg hatches under a toad. So rogue Trevor could be a Basilisk dad! 😅
@occheermommy
@occheermommy 8 ай бұрын
I never thought of that. That’s funny
@rosyellis14
@rosyellis14 8 ай бұрын
LOL
@hufflepom
@hufflepom 8 ай бұрын
@@occheermommy the school has zero safety regulations, so it could totally happen.
@rekaesmate3733
@rekaesmate3733 8 ай бұрын
And here they were complaining last chapter that toads do nothing XD
@andreanewell628
@andreanewell628 5 ай бұрын
Toadally reasonable. Trevor just wanted to pick up a couple chicks and sow his wild spawn!
@BecauseImBatmanFilms
@BecauseImBatmanFilms 8 ай бұрын
I always assumed that Molly's second cousin the "accountant" was Ron not understanding the story and what he actually heard was that the cousin was "a convict" and it's Sirius Black
@sawanna508
@sawanna508 8 күн бұрын
For the longest time I thought he ment a magic accountant.
@karenvickers482
@karenvickers482 8 ай бұрын
I love how Neville has an Uncle Algea and Neville becomes the Herbology Professor.
@anaisabelpais7389
@anaisabelpais7389 8 ай бұрын
George is pretty consistently the nicer twin (helping a first year he'd never met, going with Ginny to hug Molly when Arthur is injured, readily giving up their room for Remus and offering him food). And Fred always seems like the instigator when they make jokes and tease others. Which is probably why their moniker is always "Fred and George". Fred appears to be the alpha twin when they're together
@andreanewell628
@andreanewell628 5 ай бұрын
I’m so glad to have someone confirm those observations. It was rather important to me that the twins not be indistinguishable, so I looked for any differences I could find. But I was never confident that my hypotheses about their differing personalities were correct and consistent. That you identified some of the same individual traits is reassuring. For me I had a dread from early in the series that Rowling would wind up killing one of them off. And I knew that a death or few might be necessary to make the stakes meaningful. But I was seriously irked by the possibility that one of my favorite authors would give us a pair so that she could essentially “kill the spare” and still have one left over, with no rhyme or reason as to which was killed. It seemed a cheap ploy to me. But by the time Fred actually was killed off (and even before George lost his ear) I was discerning similar patterns in the behavior of the two which eased my mind. Mostly.
@hufflepom
@hufflepom 8 ай бұрын
There are so many bathroom things in the books. (Counting the toilet seat as a bathroom thing). But the troll, Myrtle, the Chamber of Secrets, the egg, flushing into the Ministry and so many more. I’d love to see a J vs Ben strictly on bathrooms.
@LadyBeyondTheWall
@LadyBeyondTheWall 8 ай бұрын
Lol, so true. Though I suppose it's better than books or shows/movies that pretend like bathrooms just don't exist? Like, for most of Star Trek it's like no one used a bathroom.. ever. We spend a good amount of our lives in bathrooms, so it's always just weird when no character in some media ever talks about or even sees a bathroom.
@hufflepom
@hufflepom 8 ай бұрын
@@LadyBeyondTheWall the only time they ever have a bathroom in books/shows/movies is for a poop joke. With the exception of Prisoner I can think of a bathroom thing for every book off the top of my head. Lol
@kyleward3914
@kyleward3914 8 ай бұрын
Now I want to see them take on the Ultimate Bathroom Quiz.
@hufflepom
@hufflepom 8 ай бұрын
@@kyleward3914 I want this so badly. We need to get one of their patreon people to see this. Lol
@NicholasKoeppel
@NicholasKoeppel 8 ай бұрын
Bathrooms and Piping are one of the most complicated construction structures even in a modern building(other rooms are usually planned around plumbing)… Often, they are completely overlooked unless they need to be used, and those who do; are only allowed to use half of them… So, they tend to have a mysterious nature to them, an unknown aura, or black spot in a mental palace… Social norms and secret societies are magical in mental experience… a secret bar or club that none but members are allowed entrance, access to tech from other countries; all seems magical in a sense, and mirrors portions of these books… when you attend a high-end boarding school, world trotting wealth enabled students have access to both, and they can seem magical…
@jennifervera3374
@jennifervera3374 8 ай бұрын
Harry sharing the candy and all his generosity actually makes sense as a kid who went without. Generally people who have less are inclined to make sure others done go without, so Harry as someone who never had the things he wanted would be inclined to make sure those around him don't go through the same thing
@sethcole9154
@sethcole9154 8 ай бұрын
I think this is just a parenting thing you guys never experienced. Our mother would often ask us this question not because she had forgotten where we were going, but just in case we got separated we'd know where to meet up. I especially think this is the case because she's complaining about how packed it is. Molly is making sure her brood will make it to the train platform, together or otherwise.
@hufflepom
@hufflepom 8 ай бұрын
Brand new mama, this is actually really smart for when Baby Pom gets older! Thank you!
@6666Imperator
@6666Imperator 8 ай бұрын
thats a cool aspect I didn't think about. I took it as "she is so focused on all of her children that she forgets other things even though she should know them.
@MrKahrum
@MrKahrum 8 ай бұрын
not just her kids!!! id bet my life savings against a fraction of a penny that Harry wasnt the only muggle-raised 11 year old witch or wizard on the platform and heard that, but any true muggle who did wouldve just heard a kid playing around against the question. come to think of it, hermione has also just seen her future husband, who was completely oblivious to her presence, and she went LOOKING for his car on the train.
@mellow3995
@mellow3995 8 ай бұрын
The Chocolate Frog Cards are definitely made with the Protean Charm, so they have 1 prime card which can be updated to change all the others that exist.
@whatever3259
@whatever3259 8 ай бұрын
I'm a musician here!! Chamber music isn't church music necessarily, it's just music with one instrumental player per part, such as a string quartet, a wind quintet (i.e. not an orchestra or something with multiple people playing the same instrument). I love your videos! :D
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Yes, chamber music a sub-genre of Classical music. It is music for a small group of musicians to play in a "chamber" or room, as opposed to a concert hall or opera house. I absolutely love chamber music, but it's a real test of the musicians due to their playing being exposed in a way it isn't when they are part of an orchestra.
@nataliawinczowska2283
@nataliawinczowska2283 8 ай бұрын
My small theory about Charlie's wand is that he inherited his unicorn hair wand from one of Molly's brothers. And then he buys a new one which is perfect for his dragonly soul :)
@jenniferwithani2455
@jenniferwithani2455 7 ай бұрын
I agree!
@shayanzadeh3159
@shayanzadeh3159 Ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!
@FruitfulMama
@FruitfulMama 8 ай бұрын
I had heard that in Goblet of Fire, Hermione teaching Krum to say her name was for all the readers who were mispronouncing it. You were not alone in calling it Her-moin, I definitely called her that til book 4, too
@jenniferwithani2455
@jenniferwithani2455 7 ай бұрын
I always read it as her-mee-own. 🤷🏼‍♀️
@muhmuhmonahan4919
@muhmuhmonahan4919 4 ай бұрын
Totally called her "Her me won".
@emilieg4336
@emilieg4336 8 ай бұрын
My head cannon with Trevor that he actually is magical. His ability is to turn invisible
@hoppingwren
@hoppingwren 8 ай бұрын
On Molly asking the platform number - I'm surprised J & Ben didn't mention Dumbledore's big plan - their theory is that Molly says this to attract Harry to them and help him out!
@aliceepalermo5047
@aliceepalermo5047 7 ай бұрын
That definitely makes sense! Molly is in the order and could have easily been instructed to track Harry down at the platform and keep an eye on him
@BlueAvocado3
@BlueAvocado3 7 ай бұрын
​@@aliceepalermo5047She isnt in the order though
@kvm6
@kvm6 7 ай бұрын
​​@@aliceepalermo5047Molly isn't part of the original Order of the Phoenix. Her brothers were.
@JoseMendoza-lz4ym
@JoseMendoza-lz4ym 8 ай бұрын
Millicent Bullstrode of Slytherin is the only other student known to have a cat. This cat is apparently colored black. The cat becomes very important for Hermione in Chamber of Secrets.
@tay8535
@tay8535 8 ай бұрын
I’m torn between wanting to binge this podcast and being ecstatic that I have something to look forward to every week for the next three years.
@dvdh4856
@dvdh4856 8 ай бұрын
SAME. I've been watching it in 20 minute chunks to spread it out a bit more but I'm almost caught up already. It's kind of fun that we as an audience get to have a similar experience as Ben and Jonathan did growing up, with their dad reading a chapter (or two) to them during the weekends and them having to wait a week to hear more. My ADHD ass get obsessive and does not do patience AT ALL though, so I've been bridging the gap by re-reading the books. Just started GoF so that strategy isn't going to tie me over too long lol.
@thirteenthandy
@thirteenthandy 8 ай бұрын
Regarding Scabbers first coming to Percy, I imagine that Pettigrew sought out the Weasley household as a source of info and then began begging for scraps and comfort. Percy would have been wanting a pet as a status symbol when he was 10 (prior to beginning at Hogwarts), so he would not be singled out as the kid whose parents could not afford to buy him one, and I can see Molly deciding - to Percy's dismay - that the rat who was always hanging around the garden begging for food would serve well enough in a pinch and finding that Scabbers seemed to relax into domestication surprisingly readily once he was officially brought in. Now, Percy would have been much too young to have gotten Scabbers immediately after he went on the run. That tells me that Peter must have been begging & spying at different places for a handful of years before deciding that Voldemort really was not coming back, and finally breaking down and resigning himself to permament life as a rat in a wizarding household.
@vanessalebans2041
@vanessalebans2041 8 ай бұрын
hey guys! i just wanted to share that my fiancé and i are huge fans of you both. i’m also 21 weeks pregnant and i have been watching the new podcast so much that whenever i watch now my baby boy starts to kick! he loves you guys too ❤
@dvdh4856
@dvdh4856 8 ай бұрын
That's adorable! I can't wait until my daughter is old enough for me to share my love of Harry Potter with her. She's a bit of a scaredy cat so I think I'll have to hold off for another year or two, but I wish I had read the books to her from pregnancy/birth. I just love how you, your fiance, and your baby boy already have something you can all enjoy as a family! Anyway, congratulations on your baby boy! I wish you a lovely rest of your pregnancy, and a smooth labor, delivery and recovery!
@chickenpanda1179
@chickenpanda1179 8 ай бұрын
Can we talk about How Luna Being the Quiddich Commentator for Gryffindor is just amazing because she is a Ravenclaw
@geraldgrenier8132
@geraldgrenier8132 8 ай бұрын
They weren't playing Ravenclaw in that match, and it less for them, else there would be two commenter per match, not one. It just who's the commentator who meant to be unbiased hence why joard gets scolded by McGonagall for being biased
@celinavivian1162
@celinavivian1162 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I always thought that if she had excelled as commentator she would have done it for all matches. (I thought she excelled but McGonagall probably didn’t)
@KaiMoya420
@KaiMoya420 8 ай бұрын
This has become my most anticipated show to watch for the week.
@brycesagner4497
@brycesagner4497 8 ай бұрын
I’ve heard the theory that Molly only pretended to forget to help Harry. She sees a boy alone near 9 and 3/4 with an owl she’s gotta recognize a first year with no clue what to do. She was being her helpful, motherly way. Also a special episode discussing your favorite headcanons would be fun.
@Blixthand
@Blixthand 8 ай бұрын
LETS GO SWEDEN!!!! Speaking of Sweden, and translations (as you mentioned the Trevor being a Turtle in Spain), in Sweden there is no word for grandmother that means any of your grandmothers, like in English. We have two different words depending if it's your paternal or maternal grandmother (or grandfather), and since we don't find out until book 5 that Augusta is Frank's mother, the translator had to guess which grandmother it was and guessed wrong. It has since been corrected, but if you have early print runs off any of the first 4 books in Swedish (I have all of them, so I've double checked), it will say that Neville lives with his maternal grandmother. Also Tortuga is a real island off the coast of Haiti, but it's probably most well known from the Pirates of the Caribbean movies.
@geraldgrenier8132
@geraldgrenier8132 8 ай бұрын
Haiti's Tortuga was named that because Columbus though the shape reminded him of Turtle shell
@suorastas1
@suorastas1 8 ай бұрын
Not specifically Pirates of the Caribbean but more so any pirate related media. Especially the Lonely Island/Michael Bolton wong
@Blixthand
@Blixthand 8 ай бұрын
@@suorastas1 Well, I haven't consumed a lot of pirate media except PoC and a couple of old Errol Flynn movies. As I remember it the Lonely Island/Bolton song (unless there are more of them that have the same theme) was pretty explicitly about his love for the PoC movies. I would guess they are among the most generally known pirate media out there.
@suorastas1
@suorastas1 8 ай бұрын
@@Blixthand Yeah the song is about Jack Sparrow. It’s just funny and mentions Tortuga more than the film does. But yeah pick almost any pirate film, novel or whatever chances are that they end up on Tortuga at some point. It was knowns as a pirates haven in real life.
@hufflepom
@hufflepom 8 ай бұрын
What doesn’t make sense is that Petunia should know that he takes the train to school. Even if she doesn’t remember the platform number, we know from “The Prince’s Tale” that she and her parents go take Lily to school and they are on the train platform.
@geraldgrenier8132
@geraldgrenier8132 8 ай бұрын
Not really, she makes a point not to correct Vernen on magical facts as part of her rejection of the magical world. Which why when she does on Dementors was such a pin drop moment
@YineTime
@YineTime 8 ай бұрын
Could just be her being cruel by not providing any help.
@hufflepom
@hufflepom 8 ай бұрын
@@YineTime oh, definitely. But she still knows that he is in the right place.
@occheermommy
@occheermommy 8 ай бұрын
This has always bothered me because it makes her seem extra cruel for not telling him how to get there or that it was correct. Then when they leave she is laughing at him. It just really makes me dislike her even more.
@hufflepom
@hufflepom 8 ай бұрын
@@occheermommy maybe she figures that someone will tell him? I dunno. There are a lot of things in the books that don’t make sense. (Why are there no grownups on the train?)
@johneubanks6005
@johneubanks6005 8 ай бұрын
I like to believe that Fred and George also had bad robes but didn't care. They care about others so much that they don't complain.
@Tyche-Love
@Tyche-Love 8 ай бұрын
Everyone forgets that the wizarding community didn't know if harry was going to be the next dark lord when he first arrives so of course peter protects him. Not only is harry an orphan because of peters actions but he also is operating under the idea that harry might end up being his new boss.
@tigco1121
@tigco1121 8 ай бұрын
How wholesome are George and Fred just to offer help to a struggling stranger. Shows great character.
@jarichja
@jarichja 8 ай бұрын
I think the entire reasoning behind Ron having the smudge, having the "poorly" made sandwiches is to reflect that his family isn't well off to further boost how Harry is not judmental and is kind for accepting Ron the way he is.
@eloi1275
@eloi1275 8 ай бұрын
Also the dursley must have some money (maybe in the second book Vernon mentions buying a summer house in Spain) but harry had none and always got Dudley used stuff. Harry only found out about his money a few days before going to Hogwarts.
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb 8 ай бұрын
Given that Harry has had to live on hand-me-downs, the way things are handed down through the Weasley family would seem normal to him (as indeed it is for many people IRL!). So no, it doesn't show that Harry is particularly "accepting".
@NeverKissSomeFrog123
@NeverKissSomeFrog123 8 ай бұрын
And maybe it goes the other way around too, that Harry is not afraid to show himself as he is to Ron, and they becoming fast friends because they both feel relived and aceepted!
@kalebzerger301
@kalebzerger301 8 ай бұрын
The set you guys film this podcast on looks unbelievably cozy 🤤, it looks so much like a corner of the Gryffindor common room the trio might study, just with microphones added to the mix
@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185
@satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 8 ай бұрын
I think you have to remember that Petunia would know that platforn 9 and 3/4 is a real place because Lily would have gone onto the train so i doubt she actually thought she was abandoning Harry Edit: "Keep your hair on" is a very common British saying. It basically just means "calm down". Source: Have been British for 15 years
@talawolf1491
@talawolf1491 8 ай бұрын
I read a theory once that Molly had noticed Harry struggling but rather than call him out to ask if he needed help she started talking loudly the key words that Harry would recognize if he were a wizard and that’s why she immediately starts talking to him about being a first year and welcomes him in.
@RoadkilledRaccoon
@RoadkilledRaccoon 8 ай бұрын
I am from Sweden and have been following you for a couple of years because of my love of Harry Potter and the Wizarding World. Not because of your Frozen theories 😂. But they are great too. I really enjoy this new podcast and your deepdive chapter by chapter.
@Blixthand
@Blixthand 8 ай бұрын
Fellow Swede here. I don't quite remember how I got to the channel, it was not year one, but it was before the channel was so specifically making theories about specifically HP, Disney/Pixar and Star Wars. I think one of the early ones I saw was a Harry Potter themes Google Autocomplete, so it was Harry Potter that brought me to the channel.
@DeborahBarker-dh6nk
@DeborahBarker-dh6nk 8 ай бұрын
Hate to tell you , Trevor the toad shows up in Half Blood Prince . Neville loses him on the train , in the compartment with Harry and Luna . That's when Romilda comes in to try to get Harry to sit with her .
@Sebastian-lw5qb
@Sebastian-lw5qb 8 ай бұрын
He's in every book except Deathly Hallows.
@kvm6
@kvm6 7 ай бұрын
Don't think so. Trevor has left Neville by Book5 to start a family by the lake. Neville goes around with Mimblus Mimbletonia.
@Sebastian-lw5qb
@Sebastian-lw5qb 7 ай бұрын
@@kvm6 Trevor is around in the compartment scene as well. Both in book 5 and 6.
@kvm6
@kvm6 7 ай бұрын
@@Sebastian-lw5qb so it might be in book6 that he escapes
@Sebastian-lw5qb
@Sebastian-lw5qb 7 ай бұрын
@@kvm6 It's not mentioned in any book, that he escapes. That's just fan speculation. It's true that Trevor is not mentioned in book 7, but we also do not see Neville until very late in the book. And when we see him, it's far from a normal schoolyear. What is Trevor supposed to do during war scenes?
@matthewd109
@matthewd109 8 ай бұрын
I love that you guys have such a good relationship, it’s not always easy to live with your siblings but y’all work together
@gamercheese1526
@gamercheese1526 8 ай бұрын
7:49 Having just read the beginning of book 2, there is no parking lot mentioned when Harry and Ron go back to the car. It's parked on a side road near the station (unless there's some weird change in newer editions in which there is a parking lot). Also, chamber music is music played by a group of musicians that is small enough to fit, for example, in a dining hall or someone's private chambers.
@casabonitaaa
@casabonitaaa 8 ай бұрын
11:50 I always took it as Molly asking the platform number the way parents ask their kids questions when they’re teaching them about the world around them. Like, “what color is the bus?” or whatever
@wendellgutierrez761
@wendellgutierrez761 8 ай бұрын
One thing I've never noticed before is the fact that we're introduced to each marauder in the order of their deaths!
@Blixthand
@Blixthand 8 ай бұрын
Was just listening to Half Blood Prince and Trevor is mentioned there, trying to escape while on the train, but that might be the only time he is mentioned in that book. I know he is in the 5th one as well on the train, because I always remember Harry gets a face full of stinksap from the Mimbulus Mimbeltonia because he can't shield himself properly because he is holding on to Trevor. Trevor is shown less and less, but he doesn't disappear.
@christinapolander4025
@christinapolander4025 8 ай бұрын
After knowing my roommate for a few years, I can see how Ron could have fallen by the wayside a bit but still heartily defend Molly. She's the exact middle of nine. The sister directly under her was given preferential treatment because she never felt like she belonged. So the mother went out of her way to make her comfortable. My roommate, as a result, would end up with the leftovers. For example: the sister would get a nice gift from a trip the parents went on while my roommate got the complimentary souvenir cup. Yet, with this treatment, my roommate still defends her mother because that's her way of getting the validation and attention she craved from being partially neglected. Ron being the son right above the daughter she always wanted and not getting an extra luxury like being a twin falls into a very similar situation as my roommate
@ebhamlin3618
@ebhamlin3618 8 ай бұрын
I have to say, going through these podcast episodes has been such a comfort as we get closer to the colder season. Hearing you guys talk about how you grew up reading the books with your father brings me back to when my mom would read a chapter or two before bed for me. ^____^ It really takes me back and has reminded me why this series is so captivating and magical! So excited for more!!!
@94toomey
@94toomey 8 ай бұрын
I've always assumed Charlie got the wand as a hand-me-down, and then bought his own wand after graduation. That would make sense because it seems like the wand would have to be multiple generations old for the unicorn hair to be sticking out.
@Blixthand
@Blixthand 8 ай бұрын
That has also been my assumption, but also Olivander says to Harry he remembers when Lilly bought her first wand, as if it's common for people to go through several of them, and during the Triwizard they have to have their wands checked that they are in good enough condition, and sure that is a safety feature, but realistically neither of their wands would have been in use more than 6 years, and still they need to be checked. Also kinda sad if the Wealseys couldn't even afford a new wand for their second child. I understand when you are sending 4 or 5 kids each year to school that resources are scarce, but they couldn't afford their second kid a brand new wand?
@kvm6
@kvm6 7 ай бұрын
​@@BlixthandArthur is deliberately not being paid well by the Ministry. He even has a tiny office which is basically a cabinet.
@Blixthand
@Blixthand 7 ай бұрын
@@kvm6 I’ve never read it as if he’s deliberately being underpaid, even if they do mention once or twice that Fudge don’t like him being so close to Dumbledore or his muggle mania. I just assumed it was that the department itself wasn’t taken very seriously. There is still 2 people working there too, so what is Perkins supposed to have done to also get the short end of that stick? Also, while he’s not being paid a lot, he clearly makes enough to provide for a family of up to 9 all by himself, as we never see Molly working. If I had 7 kids I’d have to shop second hand as well, but something so crucial as a wand I’d do my best to make sure they got new ones that actually paired with them, and especially for the first couple that doesn’t seem impossible, if he can afford equipment for up to 5 kids at once to go to school, he should have been able to provide his second son with his personal wand when he only had to equip 2 kids for school, and if that truly was Charlie’s wand that chose him, it seems unlikely he would give it away.
@kvm6
@kvm6 7 ай бұрын
@@Blixthand Perkins is getting short end of the stick because of being in love with Mrs. Figg (as is implied in Book7) And by the time Ron goes to Hogwarts there's two more people that earn money, though they do live in Egypt and Romania respectively. Charlie didn't get a hand me down wand, but since we know that he was friend with Hagrid too maybe they had adventures in Forbidden Forest.
@Blixthand
@Blixthand 7 ай бұрын
@@kvm6 For all the times I've read Harry Potter I've never caught that Perkins is supposed to be interested in Mrs. Figg in any way, except that his tent is supposed to smell similar to her home, which is a bit of s stretch for me, but maybe I'm forgetting something. But I still think it's a bit of stretch that he is being punished for that, remember at Harry's hearing in book 5 the ministry has no idea who Mrs. Figg is or that she lived close to Harry, so it seems odd that they would know she's the potential love interest of one of their lesser co-workers. Perkins worked at that department way before Order. As for Bill and Charlie, they being grown up and not living at home will of course lighten the load a bit as far as expenses goes, but I'm not sure they would poll a lot of their money with their parents, or that Molly and Arthur would even let them give them any money. And I'm not sure I understand how Charlie possibly being on some adventure with Hagrid has anything to do with his wand. If the wand was somehow damaged, it wouldn't be safe to hand to Ron at all, and I don't see that either Charlie or Hagrid would know enough about wand making to go pick up materials and just make one.
@bendoucet8641
@bendoucet8641 8 ай бұрын
Considering it's canon that muggle born students are handed their acceptance letters in person by a member of the Hogwarts faculty, I imagine that's why Hermione has some spell practice and knows about Harry ahead of time. BTB, you can't convince me otherwise that McGonagall wasn't the one to hand Hermione her letter and introduce her to the Wizarding World.
@BlueSparxLPs
@BlueSparxLPs 8 ай бұрын
I like to think Hermione was a bit of a Matilda, recognizing the weird instances of unintentional childhood magic as someone special and learning a small bit of control over it before being told what it actually was.
@motorwaffle6700
@motorwaffle6700 8 ай бұрын
I think that A: Molly just associates Ron with corned beef and forgets it's a negative association rather than a positive one, and B: working as a shop assistant hunting around for powerful artifacts gave Riddle the time, connections and leeway to build his following while working.
@rachelseb796
@rachelseb796 8 ай бұрын
😂 love the Molly wearing a wig theory. " Keep your hair on " is a British turn of phrase we say when someone is over reacting, basically, " chill out"
@andersonjoshua18
@andersonjoshua18 9 күн бұрын
I always got the impression that Neville was still looking for Trevor rather than continually losing him.
@borjanavarrofernandez9747
@borjanavarrofernandez9747 8 ай бұрын
I think that in no Spanish-speaking country is Trevor called the turtle. It looks more like Brazil or Italy maybe. They tend more to change things like that.
@BlueAvocado3
@BlueAvocado3 7 ай бұрын
Here in Brazil, Trevor is called Trevo (meaning 🍀), but he's still a frog
@borjanavarrofernandez9747
@borjanavarrofernandez9747 7 ай бұрын
@@BlueAvocado3 curious 😂
@belendemaria1989
@belendemaria1989 5 ай бұрын
He was a turtle in the original Argentinian translation. Then the publishing house was bought out by Salamandra, and a new translator was hired. Trevor was a turtle for the first three books published before the year 2001.
@borjanavarrofernandez9747
@borjanavarrofernandez9747 5 ай бұрын
@@belendemaria1989 heeeey aguante Argentina!!! Jajajajaja un saludo desde España que aquí también lo tradujo Salamandra :)
@sawanna508
@sawanna508 8 күн бұрын
Italy is not spanish speaking.
@vorobuh_the_1
@vorobuh_the_1 8 ай бұрын
For the Chocolate Frogs, they probably have an “Origin” card back at HQ and all of the same ones are enchanted with the Protean Charm, so they can update the cards whenever they want
@TheDanishGuyReviews
@TheDanishGuyReviews 8 ай бұрын
Excellent timing! I'll watch this to celebrate getting 100 % in Lego Harry Potter Year 1-4 for the DS!
@SkaiaSkull
@SkaiaSkull 8 ай бұрын
Hermione probably just practiced casting some spells on the train. It’s confirmed at the end of CoS that the train is considered school property and therefore students can use magic on the train. I think the quote is something like “While riding the train to kings cross, Harry, Ginny, Ron, Fred, and George wanted to use magic for as long as they could so they played exploding snap” or something like that
@belendemaria1989
@belendemaria1989 5 ай бұрын
About Ron/Charlie's wand: my headcanon is that old great uncle Bilius left his wand to Charlie when he died, because he knew Molly and Arthur had 7 kids and wands are expensive. Charlie used that wand throughout his seven years at school, then got a job, saved up some money and got a wand of his own. Thinking that old Bilius' wand might be better suited to the brother named after that uncle, he gave it to Ron.
@stecky87
@stecky87 8 ай бұрын
That Harry is so generous, and so compassionate, is incredible to me because he never knew either thing living with the Dursleys & hasn't yet had the opportunity to work through that trauma I wonder if Rowling didn't know at this point that Scabbers was Peter. They do make smaller chocolate frogs that are like crunch bars. They can't use caramel & nuts - then it'd be a turtle😆
@sawanna508
@sawanna508 8 күн бұрын
I thought it was just a refelx. Goyel was reaching into the pile of sweets were he was lying. (Or maybe Peter wanted to eat that particular candy himself)
@gottarollwithit5800
@gottarollwithit5800 8 ай бұрын
I went to a public school in the UK. I was a Prefect. We wore small shield shaped badges coloured blue with Prefect written in gold. We had extra duties like directing younger students to classes, manning doors during assembly's that kind of thing. You definitely don't need to be one of the smartest kids to do it. I was more akin to Seamus than anyone near the top of the class.
@hufflepom
@hufflepom 8 ай бұрын
“Keep your wig on” is apparently a British idiom meaning to calm down. (Per google search)
@geraldgrenier8132
@geraldgrenier8132 8 ай бұрын
It also a rather forceful way of doing it. As such it rather rude to say to your mum
@williamsrdan
@williamsrdan 8 ай бұрын
Tortuga is an island in the Caribbean. A port of debauchery.
@user-gd7wm2fw6v
@user-gd7wm2fw6v 8 ай бұрын
Regarding Trevor, he was a gift from his uncle after Neville had finally displayed some magical abilities and I believe that it therefore symbolises Neville's magic which is very ellusive in the first 5 books.
@karenvickers482
@karenvickers482 8 ай бұрын
The twins should have seen Peter Petigrew with Percy as well before Ron gets to him and gets to Hogwarts. Because Fred and George had the map since their first year.
@WKP1996
@WKP1996 8 ай бұрын
Yay! From Sweden 🇸🇪 been watching you for many years. About Frozen, liked it alot when it came out. But I prefer Frozen 2. Mostly that they represent one of our official national minorities, the Sami people, in terms of the Northuldra people in the movie. I also really enjoy that they dubbed Frozen 2 in the language "Northern Sami" which was a first for a Disney movie.
@kduncanski
@kduncanski 8 ай бұрын
I have always been surprised that more wizards dont start muggle serving businesses. Imagine how much money a wizard can make serving magic spiked food or drinks? Or even just using 1 house elf to run a b&b.
@cubedmelons876
@cubedmelons876 8 ай бұрын
I get the feeling that there are laws prohibiting that, just like the Statute of Secrecy that stops students from using magic outside of school.
@jeffgammons431
@jeffgammons431 8 ай бұрын
I wish I had a dollar for every time J and Ben says the word “like”. Lol
@Jake-hw9kp
@Jake-hw9kp 26 күн бұрын
“It’s Hagrid” had me in stitches, it was definitely Hagrid spilling the tea 😂😂 and you know he said “I shouldn’t have told you that” just after.
@AngelJuliet
@AngelJuliet 8 ай бұрын
I always took it as Molly asking the kids to ensure they remember it. Especially Ron since it’s his first year, and Ginny since she’s going next year. As parents we do this all the time. OF COURSE we know what number bus our children take to get to school, but we ask them so they know. So they don’t accidentally get on the wrong bus.
@arisamisaki212
@arisamisaki212 8 ай бұрын
I’m so glad they’re doing this podcast! I fell in love with HP when I read it in my native language as a kid. I even learned to speak English so that I can understand the world more. Last year, I started to read it in English for the first time but it’s time consuming for me and I wasn’t making much progress… Now with this podcast, I’m so much more motivated and I already read few chapters since it started! I can’t wait to read all the books with them!
@kalebzerger301
@kalebzerger301 8 ай бұрын
They definitely mention it in the books, Percy found scabbards, in the Weasley‘s family garden. Scabbards was there, of course, trying to collect wizard news, so obviously he would be happy for Percy to take him in. And it doesn’t seem weird that Percy would want a pet rat at all. Rats are one of the smartest animals out there and can be trained more impressive leaving most dogs. I bet Percy got stabbers, thinking it would be a fun educational thing to train a rat, Peter probably tried for a little bit which excited Percy, because he thought his rat was exceptionally smart, but, knowing Peter Pettigrew, he probably gave up on trying to impress Percy pretty quickly at which point Percy probably lost interest. Then Percy gets his owl for becoming prefect and figures why not give my old rat to Ron who is already feeling nervous
@olgavasileva7238
@olgavasileva7238 8 ай бұрын
Who's they? Do you mean Joanne? It's she/her, she is a woman.
@dvdh4856
@dvdh4856 8 ай бұрын
I know it's just a typo, but reading "Stabbers" made me chuckle lol
@kalebzerger301
@kalebzerger301 8 ай бұрын
her and her publishers simmer down@@olgavasileva7238
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 8 ай бұрын
39:56 Random question: would Ron’s spell to turn Scabbers (Pettigrew) yellow have worked if Scabbers had been an actual rat? 😂
@celinavivian1162
@celinavivian1162 8 ай бұрын
My interpretation is no because (almost) all other spells are a one or two word Latin or Latin-ish phrase. The only example of a poem in spell casting is in the graveyard which seems much more complex deep magic
@steveclarke6257
@steveclarke6257 8 ай бұрын
Ben and J - "Keep you Hair on....." is just a British saying, meaning stop panicking or now worries I have this
@tracesosebee5485
@tracesosebee5485 8 ай бұрын
When speaking on Ron getting the short end of the stick, I was always the youngest on my mother's side of the family. I'm the youngest of two in my nuclear family, so my home life was pretty normal as things go, but around extended family, I was the youngest among the cousins, and as such, I always got last pick of bedrooms on family vacations, my wants and opinions on like what to do or where to go were always taken into account last and least, and it can be incredibly frustrating. So I feel Ron on that
@nicblueberry6360
@nicblueberry6360 8 ай бұрын
Ahh! I just love this podcast! Y’all are the only HP content I feel comfortable engaging with these days, so thank you! ❤
@JoannaMorlan
@JoannaMorlan 16 күн бұрын
In the scene where Molly tells her kids not to bother Harry, that’s the first time he sees a motherly figure trying to protect him and she doesn’t even know him yet. Molly has always been concerned about his well-being. ❤
@rachaelmarie7044
@rachaelmarie7044 6 ай бұрын
I love the idea that the school is like the ROR 1:01:54 - no matter how many kids are born with magic and fit into which house, there will always be space for them.
@samanthaking1828
@samanthaking1828 8 ай бұрын
I am so so so happy i found these so close to the beginning! I love your other channel, so excited
@grec.
@grec. 8 ай бұрын
Some things i can think of: -Harry is famous (if I'm not mistaken, in the book suggests is becase people recognize him for his scar) and Malfoy probably knew all of that about Harry but in only shows Draco's character of being self centered and only being interested and paying attention to the things that 'concern' him. (I read a theory that said that Draco Malfoy was probably thinking he was going to be the most popular and brilliant student in Hogwarts from his generation and is why he didn't care much about Harry, until he knew how popular he was in the Hogwarts Express.) Regarding -Hermione knowing about Harry through books. When she recieved her letter, she got to go to Diagon Alley to purchase her books and things needed for the school year. She probably heard everyone talking about how "Harry Potter is probably going to Hogwarts this year" and such talks and possibly asked some questions about Harry to store venders and they possibly recommended her some books and she bought them, and so...) -Draco's mom was, i think, more than buying his wand, likely checking in which store she would buy them (Olivander's or the other store (can't remember the name). -Pettigrew biting Goyle, i think is shows Peter's character (the way Sirius described him in book 3) he was just 'buying' Ron's loyalty and protection, since all he knew was The Dark Lord was gone, he had to be protected by someone 'bigger' and braver. Becase he's a rat, he could be tossed by Ron if an amazing owl presented itself (sort of speak) but i think in Peter's case, he just was making sure, Ron didn't feel the need to get rid of him. 🤔 idk. (I don't think the author thought it in this way, however, i think his behavior in that case, instinctively fits very well with Peter's character throughout the coming books. I'll be editing hehe, for the time stamps and also more details I'm forgetting now.
@Danimite
@Danimite 8 ай бұрын
We are indeed Potter fanatics in Sweden! I know you have checked out different book covers from different countries and one of them was Sweden. But that was a new cover art. I recommend checking out the original Swedish cover art for the books. They are top tier!
@elevator3
@elevator3 8 ай бұрын
this is becoming the best part of my week!
@jorgitosilva
@jorgitosilva 8 ай бұрын
Probably the Weasley didn't get to buy a normal wand for Ron's brother either and he eventually got a proper one and they kept his stored... When Ron came around they couldn't get him one again so the old one got out of the storage for him...
@Sebastian-lw5qb
@Sebastian-lw5qb 8 ай бұрын
"Kepp your hair on" is a proverb. A variaton is used again in OotP when Mundungus tells Figgy to keep her hairnet on.
@Aqua_Toad
@Aqua_Toad 8 ай бұрын
Yay!! This is officially my favorite part of Sunday!!!
@bailatwerski2951
@bailatwerski2951 8 ай бұрын
Something to look forward to for the next 4 years!!!!❤️
@Realhannahking
@Realhannahking 8 ай бұрын
I look forward to these videos every week!
@Kimboo90
@Kimboo90 8 ай бұрын
I find myself just waiting my entire sundays for these episodes to drop. you guys are awsome. Thank you for all the great content!
@nicolerobinson8732
@nicolerobinson8732 8 ай бұрын
Thanks guys for another great episode! I love putting these on whilst I'm painting
@allissalee1039
@allissalee1039 8 ай бұрын
I agree with the story of dumbledores plan where obvi Moly knows it’s 9 3/4 but needs to say out loud so Harry hears and is planted with the weasleys
@ShadowDogProduction
@ShadowDogProduction 8 ай бұрын
This is already my favorite new KZbin series.
@dinahbacher551
@dinahbacher551 8 ай бұрын
Don't worry, Ben. No need to try to live up to the high praise in the reviews. You and Jonathan have already earned every bit of that praise. Just keep doing what you have been for the last 11 years and we'll be here for it!
@mienfu9824
@mienfu9824 8 ай бұрын
This was the best episode yet!
@Frenchiesfiberfiles
@Frenchiesfiberfiles 8 ай бұрын
I have re read the books more times than i can count and I am still discovering new things as you scrutinize every possible Easter eggs and foreshadowings
@aliceepalermo5047
@aliceepalermo5047 7 ай бұрын
I hope you guys eventually discuss the fact that the twins have the Marauders Map and for a period of time WOULD HAVE SEEN a man named Peter Pettigrew sleeping in Percy’s bed and then also in Ron’s bed. Why did they never question this?!
@mellow3995
@mellow3995 8 ай бұрын
"Keep your hair on" is a classic British idiom, it basically means "chill out".
@nickbachmann5636
@nickbachmann5636 8 ай бұрын
One important thing. Of course the Dursleys must have known where platform 9 3/4 was. Or at least Petunia. And she was part of the ride, wasn't see? We see Petunia standing with Lily and her parents in DH in Snapes memorys. At least once in her life she has walked through that berrier.
@justinernest2363
@justinernest2363 Ай бұрын
AWESOME!!!!!THE PODCOST I DINT KNOW I NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@FoxbrushDraws
@FoxbrushDraws 8 ай бұрын
Agrippa is Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa von Nettesheim, who was also a real person. He wrote The Three Books of Occult Philosophy. He is also referred to as Cornelius Agrippa, including in the book Frankenstein.
@temsikdoos
@temsikdoos 8 ай бұрын
just binged all 5 episodes only to see this is out best notif ever :)
@hazhaz22
@hazhaz22 4 ай бұрын
“Keep your hair on” is a British expression to say calm down, but I love you have this theory she’s wearing a wig!! 😂😂
@seismiccinema8842
@seismiccinema8842 8 ай бұрын
Really enjoying this series. Finally managed to get my kids invested in Hp. Youngest watching first movie in small segments and reading the first book to her older brother so really awesome to go through your analysis at the same time :)
@brendajordan2844
@brendajordan2844 8 ай бұрын
So enjoyed your discussion
@corgimom5626
@corgimom5626 8 ай бұрын
Wow! I am a Spotify listener but I had to pop over so I could see the set! So amazing. Love what you guys are doing.
@jocmerlin
@jocmerlin 7 ай бұрын
Hello! I've just look through a 1999 copy of the spanish version (Salamandra Edition) and Trevor is a toad (translated as "sapo"), it was never a turtle in any other book in spanish, as far as I remember. Also, there's is actually a Tortuga Island in the Caribbean Sea! It belongs to Venezuela, where I'm from ☺️. Greetings!
@danielsantiagourtado3430
@danielsantiagourtado3430 8 ай бұрын
Loving this Guys! Thansk For all your hardwork 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
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