Charles Darwin Vs Karl Marx | Philosophy Tube

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Snatching the Whigs

[@imacookieboichocchip8819]

Ey love you Olly 💜💜

[@WangleLine]

New Video New Video

[@dantevaun903]

YAAAAASSSSSSS.

[@OsefKincaid]

I'm not sure if you've ever said where in the UK you're from; I don't want to dox you if you haven't obviously but I've been playing way too much Geoguessr recently and I'm wondering where in the UK you find woods like these edit: oh shit I had this paused right before you said "I won't say where exactly" lol, apologies.

[@rowanmcintyre]

I hate myself for laughing AND YET

[@sars910]

Ollie : Lamarck was a Frenchman and he was like "Hon hon hon. I have solved ze mysterie". And that's how we can be sure Ollie is an Englishman.

[@timothymclean]

I dunno, American imitations of French accents are pretty similar. (Not sure how much of that is due to British comedians, though.)

[@raycearcher5794]

If only Lamarck had thought to test his theories by starting a giraffe farm where they were all fed at ground level

[@MerilWoodly]

The Onion Knight!

[@sars910]

@@timothymclean I was actually alluding to the historical "rivalry (An understatement) between the English and the French.

[@sars910]

@@MerilWoodly It's actually pronounced "Kanigit"

[@danielleroyer6841]

As a biology student the line "Evolution is not a process of improvement, it's a process of change" just fills me with so much joy

[@upchuckles243]

Evolution does not solve the is-ought problem, and neither do markets. Something biologists and economists must always remind us.

[@sozen3212]

Oh my God, yes.

[@Zapdos7471]

My version of this was “It’s not survival of the fittest, it’s survival of the good enough,” but I think the other version is more apt.

[@genieglasslamp5028]

Its literally " be the best you can be". And I love that.

[@scotnelson681]

Oh my goodness, I'm the exact same way. The biggest, most frustrating misunderstanding I've come across is people understanding evolution and related concepts like fitness as having inherent value judgments. In reality, evolution is a lens you can look at many things, from economics through biology and even just tracking the flow of information/memes, that is super powerful analytically- but there's a huge stigma because of that common misunderstanding!

[@idiotleg9595]

POV: You’re on your middle school field trip and your science teacher starts to go on a rant...

[@celestialangel666]

Idiot Leg I want to go on this trip...it’s a very informative one. Also there’s some nice woods

[@tilzo_9752]

pfff haha

[@fionaur5933]

oh god this is too accurate what have you done

[@fionaur5933]

alternate title: you're trying to walk your dog in peace but this guy keeps trying to explain marx to you and you cant just say go away because that would be mean

[@RhizometricReality]

I cannot believe our school teacher just sips at bbq sauce

[@HappyGingerWolf]

That moment where the "travelling salesman" correctly genders their son, then catches himself and intentionally misgenders him is so on point

[@LeBonkJordan]

I'd interpreted it as accidentally misgendering them and then getting it right, but given what the character of the Arsonist is meant to represent, it could absolutely be either

[@randomclankitties]

​@@LeBonkJordan future videos make it clear the character's son is a trans man! I forget which one specifically but one of the post transition ones. It introduces the arsonists sister and she goes on about how her "niece" isn't really a man

[@LeBonkJordan]

@@randomclankitties Thx, I've been going through these out of order so I haven't really picked up on the chronology of the Philosophy Tube Cinematic Universe

[@JoULove]

The headline for The Daily Signal says "Transgender firefighter saves three from inferno", that's his son

[@drsenseihugo]

​@@randomclankittiesIt's from the video "Jordan Peterson's Ideology" where The Arsonists sister laments about the arson attacks, her trans nephew, the society, her brother, and how she is apparently in love with her brother.

[@venusianblivet9518]

“There’s not enough food to go round, we must let poor people die” I proclaim to the other aristocrats during the evening feast.

[@jamiel6005]

This is possibly the best way i’ve seen this explained

[@brynjames3779]

Reminds me of a piece of satire from the 1700's called 'A Modest Proposal' by Jonathan Swift where 'the proposer' suggests that the best way to stop starvation and debt in Ireland is for mothers to sell their babies to be eaten by the rich. 'The proposer' later says that his plan is infallible compared to improving manufacturing or taxing landlords who don't live in the county, meant to show how these solutions are actually a lot more reasonable than cannibalism. It's a fantastic read

[@KnjazNazrath]

Stalin's aristocrats, I assume...

[@cereszin]

@@KnjazNazrath Shit he brought Stalin as an argument! We got destroyed by facts and logic!

[@akirakramer8937]

There’s plenty of food. There’s not enough effort to go ‘round, and too much government restricting it. If the poor got off their asses, they wouldn’t be poor.

[@BellJosh243]

Australian here. Just wanted to point out that we did a Eugenics with our Indigenous population. Forced sterilisation happened, as did the Stolen Generation. White Australia tried to breed out the Aboriginal DNA, and it's one of the most shameful things in Australian history.

[@thevoidlord1796]

It's somewhat concerning that we only learn about that for like, one week in school, then move on to other stuff.

[@Mazadepizza]

@@thevoidlord1796 same thing has happened in peruvian history and they don't even teach that in schools so yeah.

[@BellJosh243]

@ Jesuits? What on earth are you talking about? We have National Sorry Day every year to acknowledge the horrific acts that were done to these people. This was nothing but attempted genocide. You sound like a conspiracy theorist and clearly have no interest in good faith discussion. Good day sir.

[@Mazadepizza]

@@BellJosh243 he has no idea about what he´s saying lmao

[@darthdj31]

@@Mazadepizza talking about Peru I think

[@shorunqualtec2070]

Legends say he's still lost in the woods, contemplating Marx as he tries to figure out where he is.

[@johannageisel5390]

Maybe his offspring will have mutations to adapt to the new environment.

[@jefffrasca4054]

He'll be fine. He's got brown sauce.

[@kruzvelasco2619]

“She”

[@labtec514]

@@kruzvelasco2619 oh be quiet Abigail wasn't out a year ago and I doubt she blames people for now misgendering her

[@gabrielbruce1977]

"Tribal membership isn't genetic. Every tribe has their own citizenship rules. You can have the DNA but not be part of the living community." I want to make a stamp of this and slap it on the forehead of everyone asking me "so how much native are you" as if that qualifies or disqualifies me from being Native.

[@wubstepgrandma]

Plot twist, blood percent was a trick by the boia to breed out anyone who qualifies in a few generations

[@gabrielbruce1977]

@@wubstepgrandma It sure was! And it sure did infiltrate the Métis community here in Canada something fierce.

[@wubstepgrandma]

@@gabrielbruce1977 I'm from a branch of the Lenni lenape not recognized by the us govt

[@tweakfreq1982]

I'm a Nordic mutt, but I completely understand how that irrational concept can get under the skin. Like, how human are you??

[@icedirt9658]

Plus if tribal membership is dictated by genetics, all that has to happen is enough interbreeding and suddenly woops no more legally recognized tribe; everyone with the tribes genetics has only 49% tribe or lower, guess we can liquidate the res. Like… it’s something that I’d expect to encourage only marrying within the tribe, and ostracizing anyone who doesn’t. Plus depending on tribe size, intermarrying could get uncomfortably close in terms of blood relations. Shouldn’t the tribe government decide what makes you a member, not genetics?

[@shiivainu9442]

The "concerned father" part was just the most beautiful and delicate representation of flawed ideals that I've ever seen.

[@ScorpionViper1001]

"You can give your children your love, but not your thoughts. They will have their own thoughts." - Khalil Gibran, The Prophet.

[@dwc1964]

The Arsonist is just the best at being just the worst

[@sprigsprog]

Shiiva Inu It really was. Because, well, it gave me an actual panic attack due to how well it captures my own dad’s perspective of me :). Honestly though, I just view that as a testament to Olly with how well in touch he is with what he’s talking about. He has all the understanding of the abstract philosophy and also the skill to apply in all the situations to specific everyday (but also societal!) situations. That latter part is a very rare skill I think.

[@MirdjanHyle]

It's from the video about Bannon! ;)

[@sarab3325]

Yeah kinda sounded like my dad

[@Carolina57685]

”who would win in a fight: darwin or marx?” you fool, they would kiss

[@pianoaddict772]

I need art of this

[@seanmatthewking]

@brmbly Untangle....the beards.....you say? Lol No, dear child, once tangled, there is no untangling. The beards become one super beard. Karls Marxwin is awakened.

[@corgs-1]

@@seanmatthewking hey bro there's this show called steven universe and... i think it kinda ripped you off...

[@slashb7836]

I ship it

[@maksim_tak]

@ I really don't know if you are joking or if you have been reading some hard fake news...

[@LeakyBellows]

"Even if you're right, Elon Musk is still gonna call the police" is one of the most biting and poignant observations regarding the relationship between labor and capital that I've ever heard.

[@flaming6]

I wonder if Bezos called the cops when the protesters set up a *guillotine* outside his DC house.

[@myemailaccount3046]

@@flaming6 are you saying Jeff Bezos lives in DC? Or are you saying Jeff Bezos bought a house that happens to be in DC because he can since he's flushed w cash?

[@oddacity5883]

@joe kiva Bezos lives in everyone and everything. He has used his fortune to upload his consciousness into every non-living and living being in the universe Joking of course

[@Bl4ckDr4co]

@@oddacity5883 No no, you might be on to something.

[@spazzmaticus1542]

The irony of using Elon Musk as an example of extravagant waste even though he got rid of all his personal possessions and houses. So much for "poignancy".

[@deafgrapes]

as someone studying biology, i can say that she really pretty much nailed what evolution is about considering that she's not a biologist. this is very uncommon for people not studying biology and talking about evolution.

[@jonskislo1]

What do you mean? What part of it do people often get wrong? Just curious, because evolution is taught in primary school and in high school, so I would assume that the idea is pretty much ingrained in people's minds.

[@jonskislo1]

Ah, probably the part about "improvement" vs "change". Yeah I can see how someone might fall into that trap.

[@dysmissme7343]

@@jonskislo1 Ohhhh That bit’s still kind of difficult for me to grasp if I’m honest

[@patiotaiza]

She's incredibly smart 😊

[@ameliecarre4783]

@@jonskislo1 Even though it's taught in school, I think many people walk out with the Lamarckist idea that individuals evolve and adapt, during their lifetime, instead of species as a whole. Not two weeks ago I heard someone talk about tuskless elephants in that very manner, as if elephants were smart enough to not grow tusks on purpose. Also I think there's an idea that lingers, more or less consciously, that human evolution is finished, cause we're great as we are and couldn't be better. It goes with everybody's impression that whatever happened to them in their youth and childhood must have been good somehow since it made them the person they are; it doesn't often occur to people that another life story might have made them even better persons.

[@eternalcat6281]

I'm autistic, and whenever someone mentions ANYTHING about survival of the fittest, I get really scared. It always lurks in the back of my mind that if I was born even 50 years earlier I wasn't considered human

[@aerlandsson2792]

Yeah. Now when you mention it, it is very scary. I'm autistic myself so I can relate to that feeling. To be viewed as lesser than we are. Treated as sub-human creatures, not really fit for society. It's horrible, really

[@aerlandsson2792]

@not a real person Maybe you have a point

[@frankbacon1002]

@not a real person Depends on the type of Autism i guess, my mum works with kids who would have definitely been, idk, lobotomised at BEST 50 years ago. Kids with like really severe cases of autism, who require constant care But yeah most aspies would probably be okay, 50 years ago that is. If similar ideas make a comeback today though, yeah i don't think that they would be able to evade ungodly treatment by society

[@FulgurInteritum]

why? for all we know autists can be better at things that make them fit, depending on the type, like computer science.

[@sonicthehedgegod]

same with any time someone starts talking abt bootstraps and hard work, though a lot of that i feel like is current economic conditions too. idk.

[@timplasket9111]

As a biologist, I'm loving this. My two cents are about the knobbly trees: there are certain species of soil bacteria that naturally genetically modify plants. They inject tumor-causing genes into the tree cells (and some biosynthetic genes for sugars that the bacteria can live off of) and then the bacteria colonize these tumors. We use these bacteria as an easy means of human-driven gene modification in plants. We just swap out the tumour-cousing gene for things we want the plant to make.

[@timplasket9111]

Also, Lamarck was retrospectively right. By accident. About something he couldn't have been thinking of at the time: CRISPR. How it occurs in bacteria is as hereditary adaptive immunity acquired during life and then passed onto the offspring cells. He was vindicated (in the most niche of niche cases) 😂

[@miketacos9034]

Damn, nature, you scary!

[@Shermack98]

@@timplasket9111 First... Agrobacterium is what youre thinking i assume?. Secondly. While plasmids are acquired throughout life, its still the gene which is passed, not the trait it self. One of the mains points of lamark was the use/disuse theory of organ formation, which doesnt work even in bacteria. While a interesting point none the less, i still dont think you can say he was right.

[@timplasket9111]

@@Shermack98 Daniel Olmedo yes, I was talking about agrobacteria. Nasty smelling stuff when it's cultured in the lab 😂 but I wasn't sure off the top of my head if there are other genera that can do this (I mean, there probably are). As to the Lamarckian nature of CRISPR. It's immunity acquired through the life of the bacteria and then passed to the offspring. Very broadly it applies but I was being tongue in cheek about it. I know it doesn't work as he originally intended

[@therat1117]

@@timplasket9111 Generally speaking, scientists of the past were very good at getting close enough to how something worked that they could adequately explain it with enough predictive power that the knowledge could be used in a useful manner, but getting the exact explanation wrong. We are still probably doing this with quantum dynamics, given the multitude of models that fulfill the requirements of quantum theory.

[@AbsolXGuardian]

I'm suprised you didn't mention Alfred Wallace. He figured out natural selection around the same time as Darwin. He was also a socialist and while middle class, still firmly part of the working class. He had to fund his expeditions by selling his specimens as collectibles to rich people. Just like Darwin, he delayed publishing his findings for fear of the implications. Except what he feared was giving Malthusians more ammo. He eventually got over it, and because a mutual friend told Wallace that Darwin was working on something similar, they decided to submit their papers to the royal soicety together. Darwin just gets the credit because he was also sitting on a draft for Origin of the Species, which he published shortly afterwards.

[@LGrian]

Thanks! I hadnt ever heard of Alfred Wallace.

[@bonniea8189]

I knew someone else published the idea around the same time, but couldn't remember their name.

[@TheZahirNT2]

Didn’t Darwin specifically withhold some of Wallace’s stuff from publication so he wouldn’t get shown up by another person and commoner, no less? I think I’ve read that before...

[@louisparry-mills9132]

Yeah, some discussion of Wallace would have been great. Wallace did lots of what Darwin did with far far less resources. Impressive guy

[@YouGottaShootEmInTheHead]

The same implication that he would be on the choping block? That is a common fear on his field, and well not many got away without being killed.

[@dolores111]

“Transgender firefighter” Steve Banon throwback AND foreshadowing. Legend

[@billpeel4408]

Walking through the woods talking about Marx is the socialist version of ranting about AOC in your truck

[@PhilosophyTube]

lmaoooooooo!!

[@jaojao1768]

We thank thee for this blessed comment

[@banjotoothlessbill]

Then Brad and Steve turn to each other in their truck and start laughing.

[@thingswhynot]

David Gwin what are you going on about?

[@appleslover]

AOC being ?

[@Arthur-yf9yv]

'Protect them from making any sort of... permanent decision' *sucks air through teeth transgenderishly *

[@nukiradio]

Bad mouth feel

[@ViRoseLaBianca]

Oh gosh right away, that dog whistle tho

[@michaelotis223]

I see I'm late to the mouthfeel comments 🤦🏾‍♂️😏🤪

[@flaming6]

This time, the Arsonist reminds me of the shit my cryptofash step-mom says.

[@ScorpionViper1001]

@@flaming6 Olly has all the favorite cryptofash dogwhistles down pat in the Arsonist's dialogue

[@samuelmcandrew2125]

“This isn’t FACTS tube...” *OfficialBenShapiro has unsubscribed*

[@appleslover]

But wasn't it LOGIC tube?

[@djdeepdevotion]

pls stop the cringe comments

[@Czeckie]

Queen Victoria died in 1901 so that makes 1901 the end of the Victorian Era. Tesla Motors company was founded in 2003 and let's say, for the sake of the argument, Elon Musk founded it at his birth, which was in 1971. By simple math we conclude there wasn't any Tesla factory at least 70 years after Marx and his communist criminals, which means Elon Musk didn't call police on him. Stop crying, snowflake, you were just destroyed by FACTS and LOGIC.

[@Tespri]

@GazB Name even single rational member of far left.

[@appleslover]

@Tally Ho don't forget his commentary on john Lennon's "imagine" ... That's something his followers need to see

[@willing1043]

Can we just take a second to appreciate how consistent yet complex the Arsonist is. He fits into every video it’s amazing.

[@edvid5626]

"I'm putting hot sauce in my omelette, and the hot sauce is communism!" MAKE IT RED! MAKE IT RED!

[@TealWolf26]

Red has more fun 😉

[@flaming6]

No, red omelet means too much hot sauce, and the vinegar in it will pickle the egg. You just want a nice blush pink. Bread and rosé eggs. ;)

[@legzfalloffgirl5148]

THE HOT SAUCE IS COMMUNISM! I'm putting that on a t-shirt😹😹😹

[@TealWolf26]

I mean, pro gamer move: drizzle the hot sauce after the fact to taste. No unnecessary pickling. Unless you want it.

[@thomasdjonesn]

The grim specter of hot sauce haunts the breakfasts of Europe.

[@reinapiratayquepaha]

As a Chilean, I thank you for acknowledging the fueguinos and their story on your video. Selk'nam were victims of the human zoos as they were called and they suffered a lot at the hands of landlords and hunters. They had semi nomadic societies in which they defined territories between the tribes through mutual accord, collaborating during times of famine and having a very interesting relationship between themselves and the land. Also they had pretty dope rituals like the kloketén, where they dressed in strange garments meant to represent their deities and demons. If anyone is interested I urge you to read about them and their story, there are even interviews with some of the last descendants of their culture. I would like for their history to not die, we already did them a lot of bad during the 19th and early 20th century. Thank you

[@zoetv2170]

CHILE GANG! Thanks for this comment, I also felt a lot of things hearing the story of those Fueguinos from Ollie

[@felipedaiber2991]

Its a shame they were victims of a frighteningly effective genocide and now they are all dead and not even their language survived Unless that guy that was probably extremely hight was actually right wich I heavilly doubt

[@reinapiratayquepaha]

@@felipedaiber2991 well, there are still some remnants of selk'nam culture and language being maintained by the few descendants of their people, as well as apparently some records of their numerical system, but definitely their civilization was reduced to almost nothing compared to what they used to be. Selk'nam were not particularly belic, exemplified by their sense of community between clans, and they certainly weren't prepared for what the Spaniards and later the British did to them, treating them as animals. On a final note, there was a video floating around that showed the selk'nam myth of creation if you're interested, I think it's still around.

[@amarujuancoiz4287]

Saludos desde Argentina XD

[@cristinaflores8920]

Hi, so yo recommend anything in particular? I'd love to start reading about it

[@vecinacansada858]

“What was the vibe in Victorian Britain? The vibes were not good” Heckin’ nice

[@Fux704]

dat cholera vibe

[@radiobob1908]

It just hit me that every Arsonist sketch ends with him asking you for a small favor. The Arsonist can have all the petrol in the world, but it won't turn into violence without someone giving him a match. He needs an enabler.

[@fuzzytheduck]

Wow that’s really insightful

[@legendswarble2845]

"I'm putting hot sauce in my eggs and the hot sauce (dramatic zoom) IS COMMUNISM." Omg. Ollie, I love you.

[@orsolyafekete7485]

One more great line for those "LeftTube out of context" compilations :D

[@The5lacker]

It’s such a minor detail, but I just LOVE how the Arsonist mistakes the Standard Cup of Tea as “Perfect.” It’s just an artificial system intended to make testing tea flavor more consistent, but he frames it like some divine, pre-ordained “correct” method, when in fact it’s only designed to make the SAME cup of tea as before. Such a perfect microcosm of prescriptivist thinking.

[@casju]

It's such a good detail. I was hearing this video while biking, but I knew I was listening to the arsonist the moment he said the cup of tea made that way was 'perfect'

[@MurdermiesteR]

A great analogy for communism.

[@bettievw]

@@MurdermiesteR how?? 😂😂

[@MurdermiesteR]

@@bettievw An artificial system intended to make things more consistent being framed as a "divine" or "correct" method? That is this channel in a nutshell. A bourgeois professor talking about us proletariat as if we are neglected slaves when we are free people who can succeed or fail on our own merits.

[@bettievw]

@@MurdermiesteR Jesus Christ, that's such a bad interpretation of communism I'm fucking rolling over the floor right now, thanks for the laugh!

[@jupitermelichios392]

As someone who is realiant on subtitles, I really appreciate both that you take the time to make your subs accurate, but also that I get what feels like little extra bonuses in the form of the commentary and music descriptions you add. It's not often that having audio processing issues gets me more stuff rather than less!

[@brynjames3779]

I just checked them out, and oh my days they are hilarious when it comes to the section with the Arsonist! I love it when subtitles add extra comedy as well as helping the hard of hearing

[@yeetusfetus8687]

Seconded! My dumb audio processing ass appreciates these donuts so much!

[@sam4330]

Same. As I commented on another one of his videos, it's as if for once, abled people are the ones missing out. Though of course, it's perfectly accessible to them. But still.

[@stayphrosty]

+

[@smithhenke5049]

She explains biology things better than most of the science teachers I've ever had!

[@haidengeary8277]

He* Pretty sure he does not have ovaries.

[@Broomful]

@@haidengeary8277 Not her pronouns

[@everything5066]

@@haidengeary8277 She*

[@yuritardid7761]

@@everything5066 didn't she/he transition later on tho after this video, so they're a man in this video but a woman in the newer ones post-transition

[@fabianshedenhelm2986]

@@yuritardid7761 she started transitioning in the background of this video and many others including things such as doing hints, changing the name in the well credits, this is one where Abby started to show herself a bit more.

[@TheMjsanty]

“And the hot sauce ... is Communism!” might be my new favorite quote ever.

[@ggabbydm]

I was about to comment that

[@rpturtle9329]

As a blind person, the whole “killing all the blind and deaf” portion of the eugenics section of the video hit differently lol. My initial response was, “hey! We got a shout out in a philosophy tube video!! Yay! Terrible context but yay”? Also I would absolutely love that deep dive into disability that he kinda alluded to possibly doing one day. I would like to see an analysis of how eugenics possibly, as a school of thought, has come to shape how we collectively treat and think about disability today. Overall awesome video and I love these super long ones!

[@parvislupisnavis1209]

I really hope this isn't offensive but I found it interesting that you were blind. How did you find the video and type this out? Do you have a computer that narrates what you are doing or do you have brail on your keyboard?

[@MCXL1140]

@@parvislupisnavis1209 you should really poke around the accessibility settings that you have on your computer. Not to mention that you can just Google what sorts of software are out there for differently-abled people.

[@StayGreenBDifferent]

I know that feel as wheelchair user with a very German last name. I think Ollie is the kind of KZbinr who would work to really include disabled perspectives, so that hinted video would be appreciated.

[@StayGreenBDifferent]

@brmbly Or Jessica Forzard (multiple disability and vintage fashion). A British disability roundtable would be brilliant.

[@rpturtle9329]

ParvisLupis Navis I’ve been subscribed to the channel for a bit so that’s how I found the video. It popped up in my home feed. All apple products have a built in screen reader called voiceover. You can find it in settings and toggle it on to see how it works. Also, windows computers have their own built in screen reader but most blind people use a third party one such as jaws or NVDA. Google either of those or search them on KZbin to see more. If you want to learn a bit more about blindness, I suggest checking out molly Burke here on KZbin. She’s a great KZbinr on the blindness topic. She does a bunch of other non blindness related stuff too but her playlists regarding blindness are pretty accurate and I think she’s a good representative of the community. Her experience isn’t true for all blind people because blindness is a spectrum but her stuff is still quite good for getting a general overview.

[@charlx8979]

“This isnt factstube” I petition for a second channel that is factstube Destroy ben shapiros feelings with actual facts

[@Bojangus-]

Shaun, Three Arrows and Some More News are great at that

[@isntitabeautifulday1648]

Shaun is great. And he seems bored enough.

[@appleslover]

@Reg Eric ¿YES ?

[@appleslover]

@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH ok boomer

[@ArvindRajAgnosticAtheist]

@ANA TOOK A CRUISE IN MARCH Of course you are here.

[@beefy74]

I'm so glad I started watching Abby's videos in general, but especially after her transition. It's really cool to see the gradual move in her expression and the subtle hints of her identity. Cool stuff!

[@sydssolanumsamsys]

the easter eggs are so amazing

[@Benedict_XII]

"wait it's all epic rap battles of history?" "Always has been"

[@Mahmood.23]

Ah I see you're man of culture

[@curvingfyre6810]

Ok, Abigail has got to be the first woman in history to Chekhov's-gun foreshadow her coming out, absolutely godessly

[@lizoliver3021]

wait what?

[@freshoutofcrabs]

@@lizoliver3021 To answer that question, we need to know which part you didn't understand.

[@lizoliver3021]

@@freshoutofcrabs i know shes trans, but what thing was foreshadowed

[@freshoutofcrabs]

@Santos Kemmer At the time this was released, she hadn't come out. There are a few things that could be interpreted as foreshadowing her coming out, such as the newspaper the arsonist was reading, but I think the most obvious was the "it's time for egg" scene after the credits. "Egg" in the trans community refer to someone who shows signs that they might be trans but haven't realized it yet (or possibly haven't yet accepted it). Of course, it's entirely possible that it is hindsight bias and we're reading too much into it rather than Abi deliberately dropping hints, but it's also the kind of thing she would do, so it could be either.

[@lizoliver3021]

@@freshoutofcrabs how did i not notice that?? im trans, i should have known in hindsight

[@frocco7125]

38:45 "My so-... m-my daughter. My little girl... She's having a bit of trouble finding who she is." he sais as he looks at a news story about a transgender firefighter. Good god, I love how the Arsonists dialogue is jam-packed with all these subtle details about his story and worldview.

[@diegosanchez894]

"I really hate fire, I guess you can say I'm anti-fire" *smiles after pronouncing it like "antifa"

[@Mr.En1gm4]

That reminds me of the time Ben Shapiro used the correct pronouns of a transgender woman, if I recall correctly, just to one second later "correct" himself, while I don't particularly hate him, I found that action nothing but despicable.

[@timothymclean]

Man, those two are divided in so many ways.

[@snrken]

Imediately when he started talking as that character after he put down the paper i knew he was gonna talk about trans people lol

[@someonerandom8552]

Mr. E. Nygma Geez, what a dick. Makes me want to constantly refer to Ben Shapiro using exclusively female pronouns just to make a point lol

[@latikatika3112]

in these pandemic times ive literally had a (former) friend tell me that vulnerable people (like me, with a chronic medical condition) /should/ just die if we're not strong enough to survive without intervention. she managed to find her way there through 'scientific' conclusions based on the biology she was learning at school.

[@katharineeavan9705]

The British government reached the same conclusion. Individuals and care homes got mass letters telling them vulnerable people were to be given automatic DNAR orders, and that if an ambulance was called for them one wouldn't be sent out so don't bother. Literally there were relatively predatory care homes coming forward like "um, no? If one of my residents needs urgent medical care, I WILL be calling an ambulance and I WILL be kicking up stink if one is not sent out because what the actual f*ck is wrong with you?!" and the government sorta backslid on it a little by seemingly just not enforcing it as much as they wanted.

[@Zuraneve]

Seriously. At the start of the pandemic, my roommate at the time had pneumonia and bronchitis and had already been isolating for 2 months. Her doctor, not mine, wrote me a doctor's note stating I should work from home because getting covid would likely kill my roommate. I lost my job because my boss, a DOCTOR, refused to make any sort of accommodation for me to work from home and I refused to potentially infect my roommate. (3-4 hours of public transit a day means it's likely I would have caught it.) My boss told me I should just think of myself and not worry if my roommate got sick. What she really meant was, "this will inconvenience me too much, why aren't you thinking of ME?!" By June 2020, 80% of the office had gotten covid, so I'm glad I got fired.

[@Kfroguar]

Long before COVID, when I was a teenager, I had someone say this to me regarding a medical condition that had killed my grandmother and nearly killed my aunt. She, at least, had the excuse of being a technical child.

[@edwardgurney1694]

"And who gets to decide X" is one of the most important questions in a lot of debates/topics.

[@nanakigamer9852]

Recently i was talking about fact checks with a friend who has fallen down the alt-right pipeline, and he asked : but who gets to decide what's true? It felt really akward for me

[@TheSSJEnder]

@@nanakigamer9852 Sorry for ya homie, hopefully he sees reality as it is again

[@McBlazington]

Murdoch. Hope that helps.

[@mattgorak8189]

But it's sometimes misguided. Many things aren't *decided* by anyone. You don't decide to see the chair; the chair is just there. Nobody gets to decide what statistical system is the most accurate. We can be wrong about things but it would be because of our unreasonableness and inaptness in deriving empirical data; but at no stage there would be a human exercising power over how things should be organized. Human could decide goals (which can have varying degrees of being inclusive of general interests) but not hypothetical imperatives which have to have an objective nature.

[@elhamhussainemy5116]

So true

[@selkiejuice]

Olly: Lets talk about fetishes Me: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! Olly: But not like, a sexual fetish- Me: Ah, alright. Another time then.

[@selkiejuice]

The philosophy of fetishes is fascinating. I hope he gets around to doing something like that someday

[@Silverwind87]

@@selkiejuice Just don't bring up Freud. Or do.

[@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303]

@@Silverwind87 very much do

[@abg5381]

✨ _sex~_ ✨

[@pilarm.a.5976]

@@abg5381 s p o r t s .

[@kronikkronolov9793]

"Its rare that people are as malthusian as Scrooge these days" Lol, as a homeless man in America, no it's not. Especially since Trump. It's so common.

[@nightslasher9384]

Shoo, shoo, homeless person!!! How dare you try to invade my space with your poor poeple mind. *Whacks you with a broom* 🧹😠💢

[@firmi_2119]

@@nightslasher9384 I find this Republican

[@nightslasher9384]

@@firmi_2119 :O *Runs away from the Democrat police*

[@Samson16436]

Fuck those people, not literally (unless you want to ofc). I've been homeless, now I'm not. Still the same person. Love to you ❤️

[@nightslasher9384]

@@Samson16436 Eww, I hate spider people!!! 🤭🤢🤮

[@lightningfirst689]

I just love the idea of Charles Darwin, a scientist and man of leisure, not being able to slog his way through more than the first 100 pages of Capital. Like, if he couldn't do it, what chance do us normies have?

[@aturchomicz821]

Yeah wtf...

[@MrImmers]

I did, it was tough but a very interesting read. And now I'm reading "on the origins of species" and it is also tough but very interesting.

[@turtlegamez4274]

High chances. I did it, nothing is stopping you.

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

On the plus side, apparently there's a free audiobook version of it on Librivox, so if you have a long commute or a braindead job and the ability to wear an earbud while working I'd say in some ways our chances are way better today than they would've been even just a decade ago, probably.

[@komplettichselbst]

"...that we can create a society that lasts a thousand years" That sentence alone set off every single alarm bell. The Arsonist is just such a great character, all the charisma and disguise of the modern fascist, but you can clearly pick out the subtle hints to the truth

[@AnIridescentWolf]

Holy SHIT. That is an amazing catch

[@maxmaximum10]

Sorry to ask, what's the link to fascism in that line? Is it that fascists believe that their superior society would last a long time, or is it something itself more malicious? I wouldn't even know what to google to learn more about this particular red flag!

[@AnIridescentWolf]

Max Shanahan “Ein Tausend Jahre Reich” (a thousand years Reich) is a phrase used by the Nazis,

[@maxmaximum10]

@@AnIridescentWolf ​@Reg Eric thank you so much! I wouldn't have picked up on that at all, but a good thing to know and be able to recognise.

@@AnIridescentWolf Correct. They believed fascist socialism would function for at least 1000 years. Fascism comes from the duce of fascism who wrote about it in his hand written letters. He drafted the model used by the socialist of Germany to create the 25 rules they followed including eco fascism. The duce of fascism was a self described marxist communist. Italy, Germany and the USSR under bolshevik genocide were all allies until the war broke out between them. The war ended when the duce of fascism died in 1945

[@emmagrace289]

The concept of “overpopulation” is so ever present. My dad literally quoted Thanos when we were talking about coronavirus... and he wonders why I don’t want to chat to him about politics.

[@glacierwolf2155]

Same. My father is very Conservative, probably right to far-right on many issues. His commentary on the virus is primarily eugenics-filled, and his other takes are filled with supremacy on many issues. I'm pretty sure it's maliciously partisan-fueled research to go out of his way to make sure that, in his mind, every country is worse than America. I really want to get away from him asap because his ideology may lead him to harm someone someday. He also tends to put people down for mistakes, and I really want to get away from that mindset.

[@mrsuspicious1743]

@@glacierwolf2155 Yeesh. Best of luck, mate.

[@user-ko7lz3kr1d]

It's wild how many right wingers cite superhero movies, like Tim Pool. They think these are actually good arguments.

[@dmen89]

to be fair, it seems like a choice: we either limit our needs to allow for future and population growth/stability, we do nothing accept that within a few generations we will get an extinction event (as we will have sucked the planet dry form resources with an added option of having a runaway greenhouse gasses effect), or we will need to limit (and control, not just taking off half and waiting for the next doubling to occur) our population to account for both the renewing of resources form the planet, and our preferable standard of living. I think we can all agree that option 2 isn't really an option at all, that option 1 is the preferred method of the have-nots (or let's say those with a communal interest in mind) and option 3 is the preferred method of the haves (or those that would rather act in their own self-interest). However, until we pick either options 1 or 3, we propagate option 2 making a successful transition to options 1 or 3 less likely to succeed.

[@MrCmon113]

Why not? Even the creators of the movie don't seem to understand Thanos's mistakes.

[@chestersnap]

"there isn't any slack in the system" says the people sitting on miles of rope while they slowly tighten the noose around the system they've bought themselves a place outside of

[@intrograted792]

But there isn't though. That's why it breaks so easily. The system is optimized for efficiency but the trade-off is fragility. They're going down with the sinking ship too. Mars most likely won't be ready in time and a bunker in NZ armed to the teeth and living in constant nerve-shattering fear (how are they to pay Security handsomely enough to not insurrect after the apocalypse?) is their only other option. Either way, both are miserable existences.

[@moscanaveia]

@@intrograted792 You kid yourself. If anyone is actually equipped to survive the ensuing climate slow-motion cataclysm, it's the rich cocksuckers who created the problem. They can't solve it, or wouldn't if they could, but climate change isn't the sort of event to wipe out entire species. Besides technology already is in their hands. They'll live off the earth with just less people in it.

[@carloscostacox]

Malthus influenced pretty much everyone and is still arguably mainstream today and yet one scientist decided to write a book "The Conquest of Bread" doing the math and proving how wrong and talking out of his ass he had been even at the time. There was always enough to go around and we always could've lived comfortably while working less by sharing everything.

[@provolone5336]

“Putting hot sauce on my omelet and the hot sauce is COMMUNISM” Legendary quote

[@kaitocross]

Now it's OUR omelet

[@Tespri]

good way to starve to death.

[@provolone5336]

Daru Super Hacker yrs

[@provolone5336]

Tespri wdym

[@Tespri]

@Tally Ho Every ill? Nah, world has it's issues, communism just makes them worse. Capitalism won the war. Extreme poverty nearly remove world wide, we have better well being than ever before while simultaneously having more rich people than ever. We were living literally golden age of mankind. Or maybe your IQ is so low that you blame pandemic on capitalism?

[@whatsinadeadname]

6:01 Well, almost. Epigenetic traits can be passed on, but that's an issue of genes being turned on and off via environmental factors, not genes being created via behavior.

[@hondo190]

You said it so I don't have to say it. But now I still kinda said it.

[@duskicakruskica]

Yes, it's also interesting that in a way Lamarck was right about the environment influencing the evolution of certain features - and this was later the basis for epigenetics. Evolution is fun :)

[@gustavocamargo3817]

I was going to coment but you came first, well done sir!

[@MadFlenser]

Thanks for the reply, looks like a few of us biosnobs around here

[@RaineDiam]

Technically that's only the activation protocol being passed on. The trait was there, just not active. It has to already be in the genome before it can be switched on. This also means that proteins associated with DNA are themselves hereditary which has lead to the major surge in evolutionary developmental biology. So yes and now. The switch was turned on by the parent and that on switch was passed on, but the trait was already there.

[@camelliascholl6564]

4:45 that bump on tree is called a burl they're really popular for woodworking because the grains get really interesting and beautiful patterns. they form because of damage or disease that happens to the tree - kind of relates to your "beauty in hard times" video, disease creating these really beautiful thing

[@Kenionatus]

You could also call them "deformed", even... "degenerated".

[@kirashane2418]

Absolute chills at 41:52 "...do you have a match?" Beautifully acted. Thank you for spreading sanity in the face of all the madness we're living. Learning so much here and having a blast going through the phenomenal backlog of videos on your channel!!

[@googolplexcinema]

"I dunno how they get like that. They're really quite pretty." Then the witch stuck inside blushes and gestures her hand as if to say "oh psh," but you can tell it made her happy She'd still harvest your organs if she was free but it would be kindly

[@Shrooblord]

I am _so_ confused. And strangely aroused.

[@jasminaalm]

Not unless you volunteer them to me . Are you ?

[@tamber5977]

"And with that fear, I think about my son--my, my, my daughter... my little girl. She's having some trouble finding who she is... and I worry for her. You know, a while ago [...]" Damn you Ollie. You always manage to play this character exceptionally accurate and eerily malicious each time. The way you performed this line actually made me visibly boil with rage.

[@scouttyra]

Same. And I kind of recognise my mom in that.

[@scouttyra]

And that forceful "do you have a match?" combined with the subtitles. Hua also realized I'm the forty-second like

[@Andrew12217]

A society that last a thousand years...suave, agreeable sneaky bastard. I love how chilling the character is

[@michaels4255]

@@Andrew12217 Not character, but caricature.

[@James-hr3yh]

Yeah, that line makes me take phychic damage from how much it reminds me of my parents

[@raycearcher5794]

"What was the vibe in Victorian Britain?" "Quickly, orphans, turn the enormous cog wheel faster so I can buy a steam engine to turn it instead and throw all of you into the gutter!"

[@aethelyfel7573]

The passage of child labour laws put Oliver Twist out of work and forced him into a life of crime.

[@firstnamelastname7003]

@@aethelyfel7573 it's almost like it's a highly complex situation that can't be solved without deeply changing our society :S

[@masha8770]

Random note on the tree with those growths at 4:50, those are called burls or burrs. It is a cancerous growth in response to stress from the tree, either from injury, infestation, fungus or even virus. So in a way an evil is indeed locked inside ;) Woodworkers love burls, cause the grain looks all twisted and pretty. Especially resin + wood burl combos have become popular recent years, because you get some cool natural edges also.

[@keirahazlewood4223]

I was looking through the comments for this answer! As soon as she pointed out the growths (which are quite pretty), I wondered if someone would know what they are because I wanted to know. Thank you!

[@orangesurfboard2238]

Wait, so cherry blossom tress have cancer?

[@thescrimble]

Malthus is such an evil sounding name its almost funny

[@cezarcatalin1406]

Malthus Mefistus Malicius - the rightest of right wingers, the wrongest of wrong-doers

[@glacierwolf2155]

Most likely because "Mal" is Latin for "bad."

[@jackylaibach2351]

not more than Ayn Rand

[@otto_jk]

@@jackylaibach2351 ayn rand sounds like a mean social worker but Malthus sounds like someone who literally kicks the poor

[@ragalyiakos]

Fun fact, in ancient Etruscan legends, the god of the underworld was called Manthus. It's not exactly the same, but it's interesting how close the two names are, and how close they are in what they represent.

[@Blaqar]

I told a guy I was born with a cleft and he instantly started talking about "you need to make sure not to have kids" 🙃

[@mysaria7641]

bet he’s an incel

[@lewisbaitup6352]

Isn't that the oposite of being kind

[@toserveman9317]

Will you pass the trait to your kids? If you do you advocate your kids suffering?

[@lewisbaitup6352]

@@toserveman9317 well ethier way the guy was rude for saying that

[@Blaqar]

@@toserveman9317 The problem is people like you. No. Of course not. Most people wit birth defects are not "transmittable" from next of kin. However most people are highly transmittable with dementia or cancer and you don't see eugenicists complain about them. It's all about being scientific.

[@chrislavigna1091]

"We are no longer a society of people, we are a society of things." Aqua Teen Hunger Force was secretly a show about how capitalism and consumerism hollows us out until we ourselves are simply products seeking to fulfill the void in our lives by buying products. In this essay I will

[@prplfleur]

Link to KZbin essay please

[@gemmadirenna7712]

Meatwad: I don't needs it I just wants it

[@yourpalfred]

I still think about the ep when Shake got plastic surgery to be a model and Meatwad convinced him to get a smaller face grafted onto his ass so he could also do toy ads

[@Mene0]

Fucking lol'ed

[@jpm199]

@Rex Deorum off to the woods, you

[@behindthemask2399]

37:28 Last summer, when this video came out I commented that this scene reminded me a lot of how my mother talks about me, being transgender. It made me quite emotional, because I rarely felt so seen as in - the character who is saying this is the arsonist, a character who wants you to empathize with him and then spouts out garbage ideas. This is a bit mean, of course, but it is a parody, so of course it's over the top. Now that Abby is out as trans, it makes me wonder how many other people have heard these words. I always felt like she understood what it's like, and I guess she did.

[@lindenshepherd6085]

The part where she started saying "son" before switching to talking about the arsonist's "daughter" really hit home for me. The fact that even when it comes naturally to most parents to want to support their children, they can't fit a trans child with their own framework of the world, so they actively dismiss their child to let their worldview remain unchanged. It's such a subtle and devastating form of erasure.

[@DeathnoteBB]

@@lindenshepherd6085 Some parents would change the world for their kid. Other parents would keep the world and throw the kid away. Don’t really have a point I’m just mad at shitty parents

[@jexalinne5959]

"and the hot sauce...is COMMUNISM" damn i'll have what he's having

[@horseenthusiast9903]

Same

[@thewaterbear]

My guy made an ENTIRE one hour long video about Darwin and Marx just to set up that one hot sauce joke!!! Don't deny it, Olly! 🤣🤣🤣

[@Tabby3456]

yes! it goes good with american food!

[@Treemike1000]

Me too

[@danawinter9516]

is it missing the point to say i want this on a t-shirt

[@KatKomodo]

Damn Ollie I’m bisexual but I’m pretty sure you running through the forest talking about Darwin is my actual orientation

[@Whaylie]

Ollie-hike-sexual

[@KatKomodo]

Whaylon I feel represented

[@j.rivermartin3412]

A backdrop of green leaves and trees and such adds points to anyone's sexy score, of course. Ollie is sexy even in a sterile indoor setting, though.

[@KatKomodo]

J. River Martin absolutely agreed there amen

[@ArachCobra]

The funny thing is, it seems like nine out of ten times when people bring up sacrifices, it's never them self who has to make it.

[@gwynmoth3940]

Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to take.

[@cezarcatalin1406]

I’m a communist and I am in a pretty good material condition. Would I sacrifice most of what I have and even my life fighting for the revolution of the proletariat ? HELL YEAH !!!

[@elise205]

@@cezarcatalin1406 And that is the fundamental difference between the Left and Right. Rightists will view an "ideal" world, but they will only ever view it from the top, the results, they see themselves as the leaders. But not all Rightists can in fact be in that role in a Rightist society - there's just too many of them, most would wind up at the bottom, but none of them think it would be them. Leftists will view an "ideal" world, but from the bottom instead. We see ourselves as the bottom of that society, the dregs, and we see us as the workers and the toilers. And that can actually be the case - we can't all be leaders, but we can all be workers. And by viewing the bottom of society, we don't just see the results like a Rightist does - we also see the consequences. I ask everyone to really examine the lowest members, the victims so to speak, of their ideal system. Would they like to live in that society as the dregs? And if the answer is no, then the system is shite and will not work. But if, like under Anarcho Communism for me, the answer is yes... Then maybe you're onto something. Society should be judged not on the strength of the army or the power of the economy, but rather, if the people on the bottom are happy and cared for.

[@drpepperman2765]

@@elise205 A society is only as strong as its weakest citizen

[@wschippr1]

Spatial Awareness I’ve read an objective moral thought experiment that is similar to yours. Basically it’s before your born into the world you are told that you will be a self-aware (at least to some extent) species that is capable of suffering. How would you like the actors that have agency to set up the world (and obvious does that align with our current world)? The answer is obvious that you wouldn’t want the world to continue the way it is because your more likely to born as a factory farm chicken than a human. So you’d want the actors with agency to run the world quite differently.

[@vowgallant4049]

Reading Marx, Malthus, and Smith this semester. I still think this is one of the most important video essays on the internet.

[@elisac9635]

Drinking game idea: take a shot every time Olly says "Elon Musk". The catch: the shot is HP brown sauce

[@stalfithrildi5366]

...and the brown sauce is fulled with COMMUNISM

[@Swagaito_Gai]

read another book!

[@Desaki65]

I'm too busy pouring it over myself to actually imbibe it.

[@Czeckie]

another game idea: take a shot every time Olly says 'Elon Musk.' The catch: it's a 7.62mm caliber shot through a billionaire's head

[@jacktaylor5359]

As much as I love the high production value of some of Ollie’s vids, I do really love him just walking round and chatting to the camera, just feels right and really natural. Keep it real man!

[@arwenix1829]

Jack Taylor definitely agreed! I actually really like this format, feels like a lesson from your cool teacher rather than a play (though I learn a lot from those videos as well) this grabs my attention more

[@RykerJones28]

Same. Really quite enjoyed a walk through the park with Olly while he teaches me something I didn't know I needed to know about.

[@eoincampbell1584]

You... didn't watch the whole video before commenting huh?

[@lynnixvarjo9150]

Are you kidding me Ollie? I was about to go to bed so I can get my healthy 8hours of sleep AND YOU UPLOAD A 1HOUR VIDEO AT 22:30 ? I APPRECIATE YOU BUT I'LL HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE THAT I DO NOT WANT TO MAKE

[@lynnixvarjo9150]

After 11 Minutes of Emotional Ambivalence I decided to watch the Video, damn and bless ya ollie

[@TheLostArchangel666]

I know right! I had the same moral dilemma. Its bloody eleven in the evening now and I've finally finished it. *I have work tomorrow, damnit!*

[@jauume]

Sleep

[@jauume]

This was posted an hour ago... i wonder which option you chose

[@dominictemple]

Oof, I've been there more than once and only occasionally been able to resist.

[@ciara4087]

Easily my favourite video of Philosophy Tube's, I think about it all the time. It kind of encapsulates rather a lot of the issues we're dealing with today, and it's expressed and explained so beautifully! Thank you so much for educating us Abigail 🥳🙌

[@camillajefferson386]

"Darwin wasn't actually the first guy" - because natural selection, right? I think I'm getting the hang of this.

[@hectorandem2944]

Someone call the police! She's too intelligent to be left alive! 👮‍♂️🚔

[@Shrooblord]

Correct!! We had guys way before Darwin came around. Many people still mess that one up, even today...

[@NA-AN]

Call the thought police@

[@johannageisel5390]

What came first, the guy or the egg?

[@klip8726]

I'm still getting used to the baby faced look from Olly

[@klirrism]

After a few moments of getting used to it I'm actually quite liking it. First it's that thing you get when someone shaves or you see them without their glasses for the first time when your brain can't really understand that that isn't part of their face. As soon as my brain realised that his beard wasn't a permanent fixture to his face it accepted it's still the same person underneath. And that person has quite a nice chin.

[@JJ-ec9lp]

William Ek I’ve never thought about that before but that’s so accurate! It’s totally like when someone takes off their glasses.

[@kayuliosborne4110]

Ye but he's so cute like this

[@tilzo_9752]

Haha how have you become like a leftist comment icon

[@orsonzedd]

No bring back the facial hair

[@JacktheRah]

The only thing missing from a video about Darwin, Marx, evolution and Darwinism is Kropotkin. Kropotkin dedicated a whole book to the ideas of Darwinism and how people are not inherently competitive and egoistical but are more likely to actually help each other when needed. Mutual aid being an important factor of the survival of the human race. Which is seen in reality when someone has had an accident people will rush to the person to aid them without thinking about "what do I get from it". It's more complex than that but that's about the base line.

[@somecuriosities]

Well said. Good point :)

[@cyometric8106]

Yess, Kropotkin would've made a great addition to the video.

[@petem2010]

Animals (including humans) ARE inherently competitive. It's a foundation of Darwinism.

[@elv3a424]

Agreed.

[@myopicmanatee6432]

@@petem2010 Except evolution in some species has rewarded altruistic behavior. Wolves will bring back meat to the pack for those not present at the kill. Birds will receive help from other birds raising the young. Brain scans will show evidence of empathy in mammals and birds.

[@88samWOW]

Abigail's wonder in her eyes talking about the magic of natural selection in the beginning was just perfect.

[@Deadlyish]

I'm a kiwi who recently started my masters thesis on the politics of DNA testing companies. I hadn't heard of Maori eugenicists until watching this video, but now I'm off to read up on my country's chequered history of applied social Darwinism. Cheers for the fascinating video and giving me a lead for my research.

[@sammartin4798]

That sounds so interesting, good luck! :)

[@appleslover]

Wait New Zealand does exist ? Maps say otherwise

[@bookworm272]

@@appleslover You're right to be skeptical. Those maps with New Zealand? Pretty sure they're fakes

[@purpleghost106]

Obligatory suggestion that you check out ConquestOfDread (if you haven't already) A leftist who is Maori, and discusses media and NZ politics

[@weareallbornmad410]

That sounds fascinating, and I really want to read it. Would you be opposed to sending it via mail or something once you're done?

[@berlineczka]

The only thing that came good from Spencer was that he pissed one French sociologist enough to prompt him to write several books critiquing Spencer's ideas and vastly improving sociology as a field. The guys name was Emile Durkheim.

[@esthermaarsman]

Oh my gosh does the Arsonist have a trans kid who's a firefighter? He gets more backstory every episode omg

[@frantiseknovotny9315]

Guess who’s the firefighter? ^

[@taj4137]

@@frantiseknovotny9315 Oooohhh shiiitt.. has this been Ollys backstory all along!!! Jeeeeeezzz

[@leilakarimi319]

František Novotný Ollie?

[@esthermaarsman]

@@frantiseknovotny9315 I am HERE for this backstory

[@frantiseknovotny9315]

No idea really, it would just make sense (:

[@Mary-ts6vy]

I watched this video again recently with subtitles, and the captions during the portion with Chopin were truly a work of art.

[@oscarwells3070]

“I did a science” - Karl Marx, 2020

[@twistedsymposium3744]

In Liverpool: "I did that science mate".

[@vicenteramirez754]

@@twistedsymposium3744 214.3884.24 (?)

[@ethandew1768]

"I did a natural history"

[@minhducnguyen9276]

You would be surprised how many communists and anarchists philosophers were biologists. Peter Krotpotkin wrote a paper about isolated cluster of ecosystems can develop to the point of being unrecognisable from the ecosystem they used to be connected to. Now we study lake Vostok in Antarctica as an example of life in extreme conditions isolated from the world.

[@andersonsmith6519]

LOVE that the arsonist used “raise a generation” to talk about eugenics. it could be interpreted as “raze a generation,” too.

[@angelinakodjabashia7416]

I had just finished a learning about Charles Darwin at school, I never knew anything about the social implications that shaped him and that shaped how people interpreted him. I didn’t think that the social implications would be important but science isn’t as concrete as i once thought it was.

[@Theloveinabubble]

That's why context is so important when learning about almost everything, nothing comes out of nowhere

[@grimdeath89032]

Agreed! Learning about how the DCM was constructed opened my eyes to mental illness and the diagnosis of them. It's worth looking into!

[@bjnslc]

The science of evolution is much more concrete and complex than Darwin could imagine. But Charles was eloquent and his ideas were fundamentally correct and persuasive. Of course people want to co-opt them.

[@XenaBe25]

YES. I just had a bit of a scuffle with a first year nursing student about my whimsical interpretations of the "Children of Space Dust and Time" hypothesis, evolution and possible intervention of an intelligent life form, tho not necessarily a god as most people understand their gods... complete with the soundtrack from Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young :D Funny how she didn't have a problem with that part. Maybe she understood that I didn't have much invested in that theory, or any other bc frankly, I'm not that arrogant. The issue the girl took with me was my assertion that there have been at least 3 extinction events in our planet's history, and life returned every time. The poor thing started throwing rigid numbers and factoids at me. Like "at least" =/= "only" but she howled and threw ad homs around like she thought so. Poor thing. The fossil record is huge, and what we know changes exponentially every year. Prevailing class biases, ethnocentrism and other prejudices constantly shape our interpretations of scientific paradigms. It takes years, decades, sometimes even centuries to lift those biases and build new paradigms. Anybody who claims to be 100% objective is fooling him/herself.

[@tlive3354]

The science of evolution itself is concrete (evolution by upon random genetic variation by natural selection is the predominate force in the evolution of life - there are others however, sexual selection, etc)> Just as always, science can never on its own make prescriptions on how society should be shaped. This takes values taken from other places. To take the example of eugenics (distasteful obviously), all the 'science' could say is that controlling who breeds with who (yuck) enough would lead to some change in the mean trait of the population if that trait is sufficiently heritable. Whether this is 'progress', desirable, moral, civilised, etc is entirely drawn from values taken from elsewhere.

[@corbinbrooks9343]

Thanks!

[@edstervedster]

Actual title: Charles Darwin Vs Karl Marx Part 1 2:00 Charles Darwin Vs Jean-Baptiste Lamarck 7:30 Elon Musk Vs Communism 11:00 Elon Musk Vs Charles Darwin + Karl Marx 13:00 Jean-Baptiste Lamarck Vs The Fuegians + Charles Darwin Part 2 16:00 John Robert Malthus + Theodicy Vs The Poor + P H I L O S O P H Y + Karl Marx 22:00 Creationism Vs Charles Darwin 27:00 Charles Darwin + Elon Musk + John Robert Malthus Vs Karl Marx 28:00 Socialists Vs Elon Musks (Charles Darwin in the middle) Part 3 30:00 Herbert Spencer + John Robert Malthus + Charles Darwin Vs Karl Marx Part 4 42:00 Francis Galton

[@michaels4255]

The Rev. Thomas Robert Malthus, not John.

[@RennietheRobit]

Thank you kind person

[@172prv]

Abigail: Eugenics Jacksaint: Has entered the chat

[@KingBobXVI]

Spice8Rack: "But how does eugenics factor into a children's card game???"

[@evelienheerens2879]

@@KingBobXVI It factors in to soo many things...

[@kid14346]

@@evelienheerens2879 That feel when you accidentally put eugenics in your dnd campaign and your players agree that yeah we should wipe out all the evil goblins tribes and their savage ways... wait oops did we just do a genocide?

[@DetectiveMekova]

Imagine a collaboration with Jack Saint, Olly, and Donoteat01. We'd end up with the Third or Fourth International. Which I don't mind, personally.

[@nerdaitami7205]

@@DetectiveMekova wait. weren't the fourth international Posadists?

[@silenceisgolden6097]

society in 2020: "the vibes were not good"

[@PointerPapa]

I just found your channel today and I cannot stop listening to your points. I wish I was learning this kind of stuff instead of business. Guess education never ceases though.

[@vincent-of-the-bog]

The music captions in the Arsonist segment are getting really dark...

[@DeosPraetorian]

But then he sobbed britishly

[@rabbitsintheattic9889]

Thanks for pointing this out! I always rewatch the credits for his notes in the subtitles but didn't think to check that segment!

[@hollytalmage]

I'm glad I turned on captions

[@timothymclean]

I feel sorry for anyone who didn't leave captions on for a previous video and decide to just leave them on.

[@XenaBe25]

LOL ikr. That was soooo effing perfect :D Apparently, Chopin was a bit like a cartoon character, a toddler playing with a grenade. He is also described as extremely cheerful. I've always found excessively cheerful ppl a bit unsettling, myself. Like why THE HELL are you using so many smilies? WHAT ARE YOU SO HAPPY ABOUT DANGIT? :D

[@MeNowDealWIthIt]

"I'm putting hot sauce in my omelette. And the hot sauce...IS COMMUNISM"

[@emmetthamilton7590]

Underappreciated part of the arsonist: referring to "this virus business" instead of directly - evoking the idea that his problem also is with the restrictions associated with it. Especially with the reference to being stuck indoors

[@WhateverIWantChannel]

Emmett Hamilton I feel like this guy just recreated my parents

[@SubjectiveObserver]

Don't forget the part about overpopulation and humanity being a 'virus.'

[@janycebrown4071]

I found your channel a couple of days ago, and I am addicted, you are so smart! I am the Mom of a Transgender Daughter, and I am proud of her, and I am proud of YOU ❣️🤗 Hi from Canada 🇨🇦🌞

[@prioritalpanic629]

"Queers on the Countryside" sounds like a great name for a band.

[@dunzerkug]

*Fabulous name for a band.

[@jxxxhn]

I like Kountryside Kweers more xD

[@ashboi4]

@@jxxxhn the word "kweer" is used by transphobes so no.

[@jxxxhn]

@@ashboi4 then we should just simply reclaim it and make it ours, right?

[@Droemar]

Especially if they were an actual country band.

[@briggsperales2680]

POV: You’re wondering through the woods and the fae are talking philosophy

[@celestialangel666]

Contessa Perales and I’m never leaving the woods now...

[@localgrandparent1007]

U kno the usual...

[@THeKallOfCtulu]

And out of the corner of your eye you spot him.... Shia LaBeuof

[@themodelrailwayman5470]

I mean if anyone is a Fae, its probably Olly

[@TheLostArchangel666]

@@themodelrailwayman5470 His name matches the theme quite well too I'd say.

[@connorhealy3562]

Title of the video: “Charles Darwin vs. Karl Marx.” Me: *”Oh shit, did Olly do a collab with Epic Rap Battles of History?”*

[@hat-eating-cthulu-goat3221]

The fact that they haven't brought in Marx is a travesty. If they do, they should probably hire Olly as a script consultant.

[@momamario]

whoa shit dude I saw your name and I thought you were me for a second

[@Iandar1]

Aren’t they a dead channel?

[@yeetusfetus8687]

@@Iandar1 nah they still post on the community tab

[@alextsats]

Video Length: 1:01:26 Must be one hell of a rap battle

[@Аку-ю7ф]

woah the fucking arson bit was insane, such a simple setup with so much depth, that story went 10 to a 1000 once you realise the full implied story...

[@eifionwynwilliams-iffy1288]

Karl became hugely famous for his political life, but almost nothing is heard of his Sister Onya. She invented the starting pistol!

[@michaels4255]

As Galton pointed out in his path breaking book _Hereditary Genius_ , high achievement strongly runs in families.

[@senpasztic875]

im such an idiot for not noticing the pun lmao

[@michaels4255]

@@senpasztic875 LOL, I didn't catch it either!

[@enjoy_free_kill8405]

@@senpasztic875 I still don't get bim

[@free_siobhan]

this is a top tier pun, my friend

[@Praxis4RageBaiting]

I just couldn't shake the idea of eugenics for the longest time. I always knew it was unethical but I figured the greater good in the future would justify the means. "the trait like intelligence, or the gene is like a product. we fixate on that, and we forget that the only reason it has any value at all is 'cause it's inside a person." is the moment you disabused me of this belief that was plaguing me. Thank you for all the work you do and I have been finding it an utter pleasure watching your videos. I find myself relishing every moment of it and setting aside time to pay my full attention.

[@kmikc909]

It is a really deep assertion that one and one I agree with definitely, there is one more side to eugenics that I think it was not fully discussed which is the idea of preventing genetic diseases. It is true that personality traits are not genetically inherited(unless apparently the possibility of being a psychopath or other mental disorders), but it is hard science that physical conditions are, so, if modifying an embryo to avoid it having(I.E.) coronary disease, does it "kill/euthanizes" the version of the person that would have suffered of such condition and there for it supports the idea of the trait as a commodity, or, is it an actual improvement of the overall genetic code of the population as you are mending that person AND its offspring? By definition Eugenics is meant to "Improve the genetic quality".

[@blubli3824]

Actually, it's a lot more complicated than that: mental illnesses (like psychopathy, alcoholism, depression, anxiety,...) are generally the result of both genetic factors and environmental factors. Moreover, there isn't one single gene coding for an illness, but usually several genes involved in the process. All this means that even if your parents passed the "anxious genes" onto you, you inherit only the potential to develop anxiety during your lifetime; and you are only more likely to develop it if the environment you grow up in is (at some point) harmful to you. If you face little trauma in your life, you won't end up anxious, even though you are genetically predisposed to it. There is also the fact that the point of psychology, relationships, education,... is to give you tools so you can overcome those kind of illnesses if you develop them. Even if you are anxious because of past traumas or still occuring traumas, you can still have a normal, functionnal and happy life. This is true for anxiety, depression, alcoholism,... and also for psychopathy. A lot of people who could be medically categorised as psychopaths are living a normal life, they have a regular job, a family, and they are absolutely no danger to themselves or to others. Regarding "physical conditions", there is also the possibility for several genes to be involved in a disease, there are also environmental factors that can increase or decrease the risk of these conditions developing (think of diet and smoking for instance). There is the fact that even if there is only one gene involved, it's not always possible to edit it in a safe way, there is also the possibilty of the unforseable consequences of the editing of said gene on other genes. There's the question of the tools used for the editing (maybe you can add genetic sequences from other animals, plants or viruses to cure a disease, but again with what consequences on a fully grown human?). There's the fact that random mutations exist, and you can not predict where they will appear and the impact they will have (thus even after the editing process, you could still end up with a genetic disease). So gene editing being a cure-all is not very realistic. Also, at philosophical level, we have to ask ourselves what constitutes an improvement for society. Is it the same thing for everyone? Who decides on those things? A regular theme in the evolution process is "variability is good". By having a lot of options, we can face a lot of obstacles and survive as a society, sometimes in very weird ways. For instance, sickle cell anemia is a disorder affecting blood (not good for the people living with it), but if those people live in a country where malaria is a danger to the survival of the population, that same disorder can actually protect the people from malaria in some cases. A lot of the things we see as being detrimental traits were once (or are still) very useful: anxiety is something that anyone can feel at some point in their life, it persisted because it serves as an alarm signal when you are facing a situation or an environment that could be harmful/stressfull to you. Anxiety, in a moderate amount, helps us anticipate some potentially negative outcomes, pushes us to be tactful and prudent when we express ourselves, it helps us pay attention to the reaction of others and helps us focus so we can give an appropriate response when facing a possible danger.

[@Praxis4RageBaiting]

@@kmikc909 would retroactively changing genes through gene therapies such as CRISPR or newer technologies have the affect of changing a personality?

[@kmikc909]

@@Praxis4RageBaiting Not an expert at all, but as far as I could research on the topic, no, no direct personality traits are strictly related to genetic codes. @blu bli talks a little bit about that in their response.

[@kessm8863]

@@kmikc909 I think that blu bli below me does an excellent job responding to you and showing that what you're describing here is a fetishization of a specific "way of being" and existing in the world. Disability rights activists have done a lot of work around this issue, and I would really recommend your reading up on disabled voices and their thoughts on the modern discourse of "well if it's to prevent genetic disease, it's okay!". A phrase bandied about in this discourse a lot is "quality of life" and I think that this concept is fetishized so greatly that it blinds people who have a majority or "standard" quality of life to look at people who are living lives different from their own and, because they can't imagine being happy living differently, decide that person's quality of life is inherently inferior. I believe the reason that Olly didn't talk more about this in the video is because of that note he made about disability theory. It's complex, and requires at the very least its own video. But I'd encourage you to take a set aside your beliefs and feelings about "genetic quality" and reexamine them after you do some readings by disabled people about their lives, their struggles, and their advantages. There's a lot of great discourse within the disability community around the question of how much humanity should work to remove certain genes from the genetic pool vs. how much we should work to remove barriers to people who have those genes when they want to engage in their own lives as fully and meaningfully as is possible. It might turn out that changing our perspective to focus on access, inclusion, and treatment, rather than genetic predispositions and prenatal screening/alteration, would lead to a more healthy, robust, and diverse human population. Variability is good, both for the long-term survival of the species and for the short-term benefits of living in a world where there's many different ways someone can explore to develop a "successful life".

[@winteriscoming1373]

Sweden has a long, ugly, and rarely talked about history of eugenics and forced sterilisation. The Swedish Institute of Racial Biology, founded in 1922 and operational until 1958, conducted plenty of cutting edge "research" in the field. Under what came to be known as Folkhemspolitiken, the politics of the people's home, eugenics became a pretty fundamental part of Swedish society and, ironically enough, the expansion of the welfare system. Between the years 1934 and 1976 63,000 sterilisations were performed in Sweden, roughly half of which are believed/reported to have been forced. Roma people in particular were heavily targeted with forced sterilisation, and policies influenced by eugenics contributed heavily to the discrimination against Sweden's native population, the Same people.

[@raptorzoz6251]

The sami are not any more or less native than the germanic swedish population.

[@kauswekazilimani3736]

@Hostis Luminis political platforms can switch though. Don't know about sweden but ya.

[@theangryholmesian4556]

@Hostis Luminis Maybe because Christian Conservatives are frequently bigoted dickweeds?

[@theangryholmesian4556]

@@raptorzoz6251 Source? And still inexcusable.

[@nateryans6758]

I’d love to read more about this if you have any sources. I’m learning Swedish, and as it turns out, every time I learn a new European language, I must figure out why that particular nation has done horribly racist things.

[@stregalilith]

Brilliant and wonderful! This video took my mind off the pandemic, war in Ukraine and my own pain. Thank you for all your talent and energy in producing this gem. The relief I've experienced from enjoying this production has re-energized me and made it possible to go back into real life and meet the challenges I was burned out on before I watched it.

[@KingBobXVI]

"Why does Elon Musk own so much stuff?" - Karl Marx

[@GDKLockout]

You need to be asking yourself if Elon would have done anything at all in a communist regime? Would we only have tesla if he was able to convince 500 engineers to join him in working for free when they could just be off doing thier own pet projects. Or would we just force him to do it?

[@eliasE989]

@@GDKLockout You don't need Elon to do electric cars or space projects.

[@pixelguy9922]

Elias - And without capitalism and competition, the incentive to innovate and improve existing, working, products would be...what? How would your worker owned car factory convince a designer to design their car and not someone elses? How would you know you had the people needed to start the production in the first place? You can’t do it without an engineer, so you need to convince one to work with you. How? With a good salary? Didn’t think so.

[@Christopherjoe]

@@pixelguy9922 the incentives are gulags and guillotines. No Tesla? Gulag! Still no Tesla? Guillotine! Of course, I don't approve of gulags.

[@petem2010]

@Active Username "Elon hasn't done anything". So, why is it, that these engineers never produced what his companies have? How is it his company is the first private company to provide shuttle transport to the ISS? Proponents of communism are incredibly ignorant to how the real world works. You do realise to launch your own company requires investment and very often, people that do this put their own homes on the line right? In fact - if you think communism is such a great idea with regards to 'democratising companies' - guess what, you CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW. If what you say is such a perfect solution, why haven't workers formed together, created their own company and done so? Oh and good luck politicising a company. The company would spend more time debating, arguing, writing policies, that it would never produce anything competitive. In short - if you think 'all Elon has done is...' why the fuck haven't you done it.

[@lynnewelton6222]

"Sobs Britishly" ... Ollie's subtitles are hilarious. Anyone who's watching without the subtitles on is really missing out.

[@joannamyers1268]

I gotta watch this again with subtitles. Thank you!

[@kurasuta3715]

Especially the Chopin bit

[@Hexane88]

They are fantastic 😂

[@valeriae6053]

Only saw this comment in the last ten minutes of the video, but I’m very glad I took your advice.

[@gabrielpaquette6764]

Yes! His subtitles complete the experience!

[@Napoleonq8]

The way you lay and explain difficult subjects in a an easy and funny flowing manner, in this video and your other videos, makes you an artist. 👏

[@Amazatastic]

Malthusian, a Christian minister: we can't give "handouts" to the poor!! What about Christian virtues?!?! Jesus, giving a homeless person his shoes: hmm?

[@WordsofHarmony]

Jesus was clearly a capitalist...he was a carpenter remember?

[@amaryllis0]

Let's just forget that Jesus literally has godlike power and does nothing with it to help the poor, I guess! Also maybe don't play into the narrative that Jesus is a great virtuous egalitarian? Guy was literally a racist and worshipped/was a totalitarian bigoted genocide while preaching how the out-group deserves death or fates-worse-than.

[@Wyrdangus]

Wordsof Harmony Being a labourer makes you proletariat and they can be either capitalist supporters or socialists

[@Thinnestmeteor]

@@amaryllis0 that's the first time I've heard that take, could you elaborate a bit please?

[@amaryllis0]

@@Thinnestmeteor Sure. Jesus is racist? Read "The Faith of the Caananite woman". Jesus refuses to help her on the basis that he came only to help the Israelites until she repeats after him that she's a subhuman dog to prove that she's "of great faith"- one of the good ones. Yahweh is a totalitarian bigoted genocide? Totalitarian bit should be obvious, I refer to how he's an omnipotent tyrant of heaven. He's literally a dictator and yet leftists have the audacity to be accepting of this? Bigoted? He literally says that women are worth less than men, that homosexuality is an abomination. Genocide? He directly kills people in the Noachian Deluge, Tenth Plague of Egypt, Sodom & Gomorrah. All of those include literal babies. The Tenth Plague was exclusively about genociding all the firstborn children. He also allowed his people under Moses to genocide rival peoples except for the female children, who were kept as sex slaves. Jesus preached about how the out-group deserved death or fates-worse-than? Hell is either effectively death or a fate worse than death, depending on whether you interpret it as annihilation or fire and brimstone. As for "out-group", he explicitly says that in order to get into heaven you have to be a baptised Christian. He also explicitly wishes fates worse than Sodom (you know, the one which was razed to the ground?) on cities who didn't accept his teaching and "repent". This is all from Bible quotes, though I don't have references on me right now because mobile KZbin comments are a bitch for that

[@CBG232x5]

It is a sign of good writing when I reflexively snarled at the scene with “The Arsonist” and I had not even seen the character’s face yet. Thank you for your work. Please be well.

[@sycastells1212]

Turns out the transgender firefighter was Abigail all along?

[@pepi7404]

Sometimes the real firefighters are the youtubers we met along the way.

[@felixeleutheria]

I read this comment to the tune of Agatha All Along

[@useroffline9999]

In her stream she clarified that the arsonist had a trans son, hence him referring to his “daughter”

[@liambrewerpowerlifting]

@@useroffline9999 did u see the new video? it continues the arsonist plotline with some weird stuff

[@raydgreenwald7788]

@@liambrewerpowerlifting you mean his incestuous sister?

[@narnigrin]

Oh my word, the extra narration in the subtitles is just constantly ... *chef's kiss*