Critical Drinker On Wokeness, Politics, and Generational Resentment in Hollywood

[@combaticon55reviews65]

It a very weird feeling when two people you have been watching for years for different reasons come together.

[@Jimbit2954]

I know right? This is a crossover I would’ve never predicted

[@niccoloorsibandini9440]

thankfully for us gay marriage is a thing now.

[@EthanSmith]

Im looking forward to seeing the one where Charlie gets interviewed. See everything from the opposite perspective

[@kasper8509]

Exactly!

[@NeilWatkinsfromaccounting]

Especially when you’ve been watching them since they were small time.

[@aldunlop4622]

Drinker really hits the nail on the head. I first found him because I’m 56 and I thought, “am I just getting old and grumpy thinking that writing is really going downhill, and used to be much better?” So I searched online to see if others shared my views.

[@CitroenC407]

I'm approaching 40 and I feel the same way. Most TV shows and movies these days are just awful as regards the standard of writing.

[@gregsmith7949]

I'm 53 and in that very same place.

[@TheMightyMidget]

Dont worry fellas I'm 24 and think the majority of programming and films are dogshit right now. My old man is 56 so I appreciate good writing, but also testosterone fueled action nonsense, sometimes. Femboss, socialist writers are teabagging the industry.

[@veracyning5572]

I'm 43 and I fondly remember the 80s movies that canalized my taste. My favorite is still Bladerunner, which came out when I was 2. Jim Henson movies, Empire Strikes Back, Indiana Jones movies, action and adventure and tiddies 😊. Kids now won't know how that feels. Everything has to be political now. Also Gary from Nerdrotic is 53 and still plugging away. Get off our lawns! 😂

[@pete8492]

Nope. You just watched good cinema and now it’s mainly just woke rubbish,

[@ExileGilby64]

The Drinker seriously helped me through Lockdown, I hope I knows how many people have found peace through his channel. Cheers to you dude!

[@aishaalamoudi599]

it's not new, he's farming the cultural anxiety of people who feel left behind by culture; he's part of the reason why social media is so denigrated. Instead of knowledgeable adults, we now have triggered constantly outraged snowflakes getting triggered by a black mermaid, or a gay character. His became the grievances of many men; all ridiculous, pointless, emasculating in the true sense.

[@ExileGilby64]

@@aishaalamoudi599 compare my comment to yours and say objectively, who's is written by someone with cultural anxiety lol

[@mcspud]

Can relate.

[@aishaalamoudi599]

​@@ExileGilby64 huh? OK, you don't know what that is. Cultural anxiety is the anxiety developing in those who perceive societal norms shifting away from serving their group to serving other ones. They fear the culture and society has no place for them in the future; they see their moral standards regressing in the new social ethical landscape. They scoff at longstanding positions now deemed morally inferior by today's society. It's a real thing; it's farmable, it's eternal and long-lasting. It's not unique, it's omnipresent in all societies and they peak in the those belonging to the majority demographic with traditionally with the levers of power; in the west, that's white men, middle-aged, same people that lead these online communities.

[@turtlebot323]

@@aishaalamoudi599 ratio

[@dhacker949]

Part of the issue is that screenwriters used to have pre-Hollywood life experiences. Some were other types of writers, like novelists or playwrights. Others had prior professions: lawyer, cop, soldier. Heck, James Cameron was truck driver and then did special effects. That gave them a sense of how the world worked. Now, TV writers start by fetching coffee for TV writers. That is why every meeting sounds like a writers room.

[@thegreatbloviator6817]

This is a big issue. Actors like Lee Marvin and Jimmy Stewart had actual war experience, which gave them perspective and the ability to call a spade a spade --same with most of the directors, writers etc.

[@maximusolivia9982]

This!

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

And don't think for a moment it's not by design; popular media, for a good 2 decades now, have gone to great lengths to hire the most vapid, pliable, bland, airheaded creators they could find with an ounce of competence. Everything from music to cinema. No better way to ensure that they people you hire will do exactly as you say, exactly the way you say, than by making sure none of them have a well defined worldview, or have strong opinions on any particular topic. And the media cabal just tugs on their strings from the shadows, and they dance their little dance, while the masters reap the rewards.

[@guyincognito8440]

I really doubt that working as a janitor and truck driver taught Cameron anything. He would have much rather go right into making movies. Tarantino worked in a video store. If you can't tell good stories, it's not your lack of "life experience" doing bullshit menial jobs.

[@LiLMARSLI]

I watched Terminator 1 and 2 again the other day. I thought the same thought I had before and said to myself "why did this guy use trucks in both movies? He must've liked them". Well I guess I got my answer now :) Thanks

[@jonbaxter2254]

Jokey exterior aside, Drinker has a really astute view on storytelling and charcter, and it's honest.

[@winstonsmith8240]

He's sharp as a new pin, and knows about storytelling and character development. Class act.

[@vladpiranha]

Will "The Critical Drinker"Jordan is an author, after all.

[@Langley_Ackerman19]

​@@vladpiranha He is, I want to buy his books and soon!

[@dudesayingthings]

He really is. He puts up a face as a rash brash drinking nobody, but he's really razor sharp.

[@jonbaxter2254]

@@dudesayingthings Exactly. Sometimes to be heard properly with something smart, you need to play the fool

[@robirvine6970]

It's super weird CD is famous now, I stumbled over him when he first started and laughed at his videos. It's like seeing someone you went to school with in a major film.

[@purefoldnz3070]

Compact Discs makes videos now?

[@SpFlash1523]

​@@purefoldnz3070 Critical Drinker.

[@appleman9864]

@@SpFlash1523 They were doing a joke👍

[@mayanksharma3651]

​@@appleman9864 No they were not!!! What do you mean? Verisatmilitude!!! Glass onion!!!

[@matthewcarroll2533]

@@mayanksharma3651 I had a whole gaggle of YT commenters trying to @me because I simply stated the film wasn't good, so for some reason your comment made me laugh - thanks.

[@dudesayingthings]

Love this conversation. Critical Drinker is one of the best critics on KZbin. He really voices the common people's thoughts really well.

[@barrettolsen1622]

I went to a restaurant because I was hungry and I heard that the restaurant was very good. After 8 courses of foams, emulsified-whats-its, and deconstructed, reimagined, farm-to-table, “food,” I was still hungry, confused, a little pissed off, and significantly poorer for the experience.

[@AmeliaBodilia]

Maybe next time you should just have a cheeseburger?

[@hayleylongster4698]

The only thing you can do in this situation is finish your meal, pay, stand up, and VERY LOUDLY say, "Right, anyone fancy a McDonalds?" before leaving and.... probably having a McDonalds.

[@encahill]

Haven't used Gillette since, and suspect am not alone. Apparently Proctor and Gamble lost $8 billion as a consequence.

[@johnmorton1026]

Gillette basically reminded the public they can get the same product for half the price

[@screenmonkey]

I stopped using them when razorblades cost 30 bucks a pack. I can buy the same thing for 1/3rd the price

[@JezaLoki]

I haven't and won't buy Gillette since their misandrist tirade

[@ha-kh7ef]

i use safety razors anyway

[@MrWiggsy4]

Me either. It was a great advert... for Wilkinson sword

[@jimdandy6452]

Wth?? I scroll KZbin all the time and only JUST NOW I'm hearing of Critical Drinker....how does that even happen...he's awesome!

[@JACCO20082012]

charisma on command helped me through a very dark time. drinker helped me realize i am not crazy for rejecting the current zeitgeist. to have them together for a conversation about those things and how they relate is delighful

[@rupafitzgerald3124]

The thing I love most is the Critical Drinker's wonderful way with words. Such brilliant insults!

[@phenix1947]

Charlie speaking with Drinker and mentioning Brandon Sanderson is like hitting bingo when you follow all three. And speaking of Sanderson, he has a quote that answers Charlie's 16:06 question: "The purpose of a storyteller is not to tell you how to think, but to give you questions to think upon."

[@oza1302]

Now if there’s some financial scam attached to all these crap movies and Coffeezilla joins this cohort to expose … 🤯.

[@wyzasukitan]

Exactly, and that’s a brilliant Sanderson quote. It makes me think of a very recent podcast I saw where one of the speakers drew a parallel between the modern ideologically based education system vs what the intention of educating children and young adults SHOULD be and science vs alchemy. Essentially (and I’m paraphrasing his words), the true practice of science does not seek to arrive at a conclusion ahead of time, rather science is supposed to examine the world and see what facts can be discovered (and scientific propositions are always revisable with new discoveries or when new evidence can be introduced) - whereas alchemy is a specific process to create something specific and pre-determined at the end of it. Alchemy fills in the blanks for a foregone conclusion and ironically, there is no magic in that whether it’s ideological education OR storytelling

[@Jordie_42]

I had no idea Charlie was so cultured with movies and books. Yeah him mentioning Sanderson was awesome. I just got into his work last year

[@XBullitt16X]

You would think that’d be common sense, but alas that’s all to rate these days.

[@tubetorpedo]

_"The purpose of a storyteller is not to tell you how to think, but to give you questions to think upon."_ That is a great insight. Good stories have always given you various viewpoints, but not necessarily hit you with the head what is the "correct" answer. Sometimes there even is not one but it's more situational. So great stories make you think, that many viewpoint actually have merits too and it's not always so simple and clear which is good and which is bad. That is clearly lost for most current writers due their own simplistic black and white thinking.

[@tobygoodman9134]

The Drinker is so good at articulating all the issues that plague modern media.

[@MarcusRideout]

Dammit, I was supposed to be working and then this comes across my screen?! LOL. Looking forward to this one, Charlie. I watch all of Critical Drinker's stuff.

[@ZackFairTV]

First time watching The Critical Drinker without his sunglasses and I can't keep my sight of his BLUE EYES, OMG!!!

[@sergiogonzalesYT]

Drinker is 100% on point. As always.

[@rabronin]

This is the crossover I didn't ever think could happen 😅

[@abalibanu]

Great to see two of my faves working together! Hats off to both!

[@sourcacti8790]

I recommend Metatron's take on Cleopatra, the guy is an Italian historian and has a pretty interesting insight.

[@dantespimp]

Oh WOW, I had no idea you created another channel here! I already love your Charisma one and have been subbed to it for years. But to realize you also share the same frustrations many others (including myself) is a breath of fresh air. Over the years, I've been frustrated by all the gaslighting perpetuated by toxic positivity culture - where anyone who says anything 'bad' (regardless of how legitimate the critique is), is automatically shunned as a 'hater', 'troll', or some form of -'ist' word. I've been subbed to the Critical Drinker since he began his channel (back when he had only a few followers). Part of why I subbed to his channel was because he wasn't afraid to be honest and blunt. I suspect a lotta people feel the way I do: we're just tired of the hypocrisy, fakeness, and political correctness. We want a return to honest conversation - to be able to freely discuss the good, the bad, and the ugly in modern-day storytelling. Part of why today's stories are so horrible comes down to writers being overly pampered and the audience being gaslit to say only nice things. I saw this happening a lot within fanfiction circles (where a majority of Hollywood writers are starting from these days). I remember being devastated by negative reviews for my stories. But whereas I used those negative reviews to understand where I went wrong and get better, a lotta writers didn't. They just doubled-down and called anything negative as 'hate' and 'trolling'. They never felt the need to recognize their shortcomings and improve. I personally find postmodernism to be the greatest scapegoat for bad writers. Why bother learning the foundations of good writing, pacing, and characters when you can simply write trash and claim it was intentional? This reminds me of the old debate artists had over the phrase 'art for art's sake'. 'Art for art's sake', too, became the ultimate scapegoat for bad artists who didn't want to bother learning the art principals and, instead, pretended to be ultimate thinkers.

[@HenryCurrie-q2e]

I only watched this because the Drinker was in it. 100% going to watch more from this channel. Really easy interview style and good production quality.

[@TheAyeAye1]

Love the Drinker. Marvel/Disney can't die quick enough.

[@asdgsdgasfgsdgdsfgsdfsg]

Charlie has a great point. Private consumption won't be affected nearly as much. Public consumption will.

[@AndreNitroX]

I have been watching critical drinker for years and he has always been honest. It’s not his fault the majority of mainstream movies are bad these days.

[@AtomicMushroomz]

That is subjective

[@Sam-gw5pl]

@@AtomicMushroomzlook at the rotten tomatoes public scores.

[@CHIEF__]

I was wondering where I knew the interviewer from, I can't believe I lost track of the Charisma on Command guy. Your videos helped me so much back in the day, I didn't realize you even left, I completely stopped watching when I stopped hearing or seeing you, which was sad. That was back in the end of high school and I can't explain how much those old Charisma videos helped me in real life I mean I could see a difference. So cool to see these two together.

[@TeleoRedleg]

I've been watching the Drinker for a long time, and I knew he did a little writing--he'd mentioned it a time or two--but I never knew he'd published a whole series. I never knew his NAME until this video. He said the name "Ryan Drake" and I immediately looked that name up and found out who the Drinker is. Now I can go buy all those books and devour them.

[@sarathomas8499]

Charisma on Commands helped me so much. Let's go Charlie!

[@ianray8823]

Critical Drinker has super based humor, agreeable opinions, and such a characteristic voice. Subscribing to him was a best choice

[@TaleOfTwoIdiots]

I definitely agree the fact that the Drinker appealed to me because he echoed some of the things I was thinking, but it was his tag line “Go away now” that hooked me. 😏

[@EmperorCaligula_EC]

Example of good "surprise" vs "bad subversion of expectation": Luke's father was Vader, Rey's father was Palpatine. One was meaningful, the other was not.

[@tubetorpedo]

Also while Luke's father was Vader it still did not seem he was prodigy with the force and pulling force powers out of his ass when needed. Disney Star Wars failed on so many levels.

[@kagekun1198]

One was meaningful, the other was an excuse.

[@jeffk464]

@@tubetorpedo I thought Rogue 1 was ok.

[@butcherpete2182]

@@kagekun1198 This. This exactly.

[@greebj]

The Luke-Vader father-son was a critical part of the trilogy plot and doubts about his identity was (IMO) the crucial motivator for his belief his father (and therefore himself) was inherently 'good' not 'evil'. The Rey-Palpatine link was never utilised to build any tension beyond that one lame fight scene with her 'shadow' on the Death Star wreck and maybe also feeling a bit sad after blowing up Chewy (not... surprise!). From the first scenes of TFA, Rey was shown as completely content and just fine with not knowing who her parents were, so the attempt to make self-identity an issue just fell flat. If there was a plan to build up the family gravitas of the end fight - Rey vs grandpa - it failed completely. All a byproduct of Rey starting out perfect and spending the whole 3 films just following the next quest marker

[@steamer2k319]

Really appreciate the occasional Drinker Recommends episode reminding me of good old movies that I either missed when they first came out or would enjoy seeing again. Regards the ~58 minute mark

[@jenking1000]

"You said what I've been thinking" and, "you're not alone in this stuff". Critical Drinker has kept me sane.

[@PackaGame]

I miss: Alien, Terminator, Star Trek, Star Wars, Rambo, Die Hard, Firefly, Fast&Furious, etc. Those were the bedrock of my childhood and helped me learn English as an immigrant and to become proud of America.

[@Zotrax1946]

It was the accent, the horror photos of Scottish night life, mentioning Tatiana, and mostly- the “go away now” at every end!

[@Appl_Jax]

Russel Crowe was able to be interviewed by Critical Drinker, freakin _Critical Drinker!_

[@Linkacide]

The drinker is right about everything he’s talking about here with remakes and such

[@tommylatham9868]

When I was a kid I loved how the hulk would freak out every time he saw spiderman and try to smash him. They need to make an 80 minute movie that's just that.

[@desertrose0601]

That would be incredibly boring. Kids are easily entertained but that doesn’t mean that would hold up for an adult.

[@ha-kh7ef]

sounds boring

[@Klespyrian]

Judging this as the first podcast video I have seen from you - you are a good interviewer.

[@drankin_barry6005]

Way to spit that articulated explanation of modern media Drinker! Always makes sense with reality and truth delivered! Thank you as per usual!

[@ffs55]

Love that you had the celebrated Drinker on!! Super smart!!

[@LarryFarr-mv8ug]

It is truly always a master class in storytelling when Critical Drinker explains character and plot. He's obviously brilliant and gifted but explains all of it in a way that we can all understand it - and be not only informed but entertained too.

[@aishaalamoudi599]

if he were so, he'd have a career in TV or film, but he's shouting from the sidelines.

[@StratumPress]

​@@aishaalamoudi599 you're shouting from the sidelines, crybaby.

[@dexxfilm]

​​​@Aisha Alamoudi Having a career in TV or Film has nothing to do with talent. It has to do with knowing the right people. What a terrible take. But... he's an accomplished author/novelist so... he has some success in the storytelling field.

[@aishaalamoudi599]

@@dexxfilm yea sure, DaVinci was a terrible painter, Michelangelo was a shitty sculptor. Being celebrated for your work has nothing to do with talent, what a terrible take on things!! I'm not shocked a fan of his would spill such reality-twisting nonsense; that's what he does himself, i.e., twist realities into narratives that appeases your bruised collective emasculated egos; the ego of men suffering from cultural anxiety, pained by culture leaving them behind. He's basically scraping the bottom of society for viewers.

[@MikeSandersonVideos]

​@@aishaalamoudi599dude that's such a weak comeback. He's literally sold books for his writing, he's been approached by major IP holders to possibly offer his take on those things

[@joeking4206]

I love the Critical Drinker channel. Nice to see Wil Jordan in the flesh without the shades. I didn't realise just how much high-subscription KZbinrs make. Amazing.

[@BadenHealth]

“There’s a catharsis that can be found when tearing something apart” Drinker inadvertently describes the motivation for treatment of beloved movie IP

[@snakeeyez8955]

Great interview! Love Critical Drinker, and I too, have found myself having to go back to watching older movies that I thusly enjoyed to help balance off newer movies that have left a bad taste in my mouth.

[@AndreNitroX]

Fantastic podcast and so much truth. It’s an insane world and this kind of conversation is rare

[@paularized1]

Thanks for the time stamps. I hate when podcasts don’t include them. It shows dedication to doing it right and I’m subbing for that reason…and cuz it’s well done.

[@Anton-gj8dt]

Thank you Charlie for bringing on so many interesting guests!

[@philgrogan6924]

Great interview. Drinker should have a snapshot of his book covers at the end of his videos. His sales would surely skyrocket!

[@thiagolima4107]

The Drinker is literally the best at what he does. Goddam legend

[@ignifero]

this was a surprise haha. lovely chat with you and the Drinker :)

[@ytucharliesierra]

I always had been wondering about whether The drinker's comments in general reach Hollywood at all, so I find it utterly satisfying when he reports that people from the movie industry actually contact and vindicate him, confirming his points.

[@sfdudeca]

I don’t know how young The Critical Drinker is, but I’m glad someone of his generation is VERY vocal with his words and thoughts about narratives and characters of modern-day cinema. Hollywood should be paying attention! I’m Latino and gay, and I don’t subscribe to how extreme woke-ism has gone. Yes, representation matters, but not to a token, exploitive, nonsensical level. Have heart and sincerity.

[@Flayerthehatebound]

SOLID INTERVIEW! Solid take on the current state of Hollywood. CD is a great man. Good stuff!

[@JezaLoki]

Great guest. Love the Drinker. Keep up this calibre of work. All the best.

[@Mr_JManM]

I've taken a lot of value from both your major channels, amd seeing you guys together was like watching Batman and Superman team up.

[@JonathanReynolds1]

Cleopatra was of white Greek descent. She was actually Cleopatra VII the last ruler of the Ptolemy Dynasty (the dynasty was founded by one of Alexander the Great’s Generals).

[@TheLincolnrailsplitt]

Gran Torino's Walt character was a mentor to young man, Thao.

[@urmeli0815]

Great questions! I like the Drinker's balanced approach.

[@venturefray]

Such beautiful people god created! Great host. Great guest. You two put a smile on my face. Great video. Thanks! ❤️😊👍🏼

[@veljkocetnik3050]

as for Cleopatra - theres a shitload of people that claim seriously that she was black and even ancient Egyptians were black. They also claim Jews are black - like Kyrie Irving did. So this is not just Jada Smith is a moron, she didnt think of it herself. This is a racist movement but since the people involved are black nobody says anything.

[@yeldarbjenkins7495]

Drinker!! Class showing mate

[@alfredogonzalez9420]

this was a lovely podcast, thanks to both of you for your time and input on these topics

[@suntzugames]

1:03:33 - Gillette had a value write-off (I have no idea how that works over there) by their parent company (P&G) of approximately 8bn dollars roughly a year after the commercial. So it certainly had an impact. 😅 Though not publicly admitted of course.

[@positivepenny5477]

Omg is Charisma on Command based? Word!

[@thegrantkennedy]

I think there is an additional reason for why critic and audience scores are sometimes very different. Watching movies is the critic's job. Day in and day out they watch stuff and write about it. Any thing that's a bit different is probably a welcome relief to them. Whereas the normie who doesn't spend their life watching films, just wants to be entertained. If the film makes them think or feel something then it's a bonus.

[@patriciafenwick5846]

Great interview, intelligent questions, insightful answers. This was so interesting. Well done!

[@idahomike4254]

Fantastic interview, dude! I've been a fan of Will's for about 2 years now and I truly appreciate his points of view. The conversation here was insightful, cognitive and thoroughly entertaining. Much obliged!

[@angrysob7962]

Great interview. I've been an adamant and long-time fan of The Drinker, and now I'm a fan of yours! Well done.

[@P1nkR]

At 40:41 I think the KZbin algorithm and all of its silly rules can be just as damaging as any studio head.

[@aubriestarks2242]

@15:08 Secondhand Lions is the last film I can think of that did that

[@dw1419]

Great collaboration!!! Two great creators

[@thecount4903]

Well done on this idea. Love Charisma on Command and love this idea even more. I've been a long-time fan of Drinker. This would be incredible if you bring on a bunch of excellent creators like Angry Cops, Aba & Preach, Mauler, and on and on. I will be checking out the back catalog at work. I am pumped about this.

[@mr.raslyon6626]

Drinker!! Creator of the "THE MESSAGE" meme 🤣👍🏿

[@WesternOutpostDonVonFilms]

George Washington was an Egyptian, Harriet Tubman was a Native American, and Jefferson Davis was black.

[@EmperorCaligula_EC]

It is so weird to see and hear Critical Drinker talking like normal and still with his iconic voice. XD

[@liamphibia]

And seeing him without the sunglasses... Like, WOW.

[@Paetaor]

Great interview. Found The Drinker a few years ago and it is nice to see the man behind the bottle.

[@MemoryMori]

First of all, Drinker is a writter, a succesfull writter, so yeah, he knows about storytelling. Plus he can articulate the point in an inteligent yet "simple" maner (with a grain of salt, humor and booooze xDD). He doesnt play favours, hes honest and brutal....thats how we (and Tatiana) likes it ;-D

[@raminagrobis6112]

Not only is Drinker a writter, but he also is a writer.😂

[@aishaalamoudi599]

if so then why is he only shouting from the sidelines ??? he would have a career in TV or film, but he doesn't. By now it shd be clear he's an activist, not an honest reviewer.

[@StratumPress]

​@@aishaalamoudi599 Drinker is too competent to be in the industry.

[@raminagrobis6112]

@@aishaalamoudi599 Strange that you'd say that. Drinker regularly posts positive and well rounded reviews of films, both recent or more classic, which contrast with those in which he illustrates the shortcomings of recent, mediocre productions. The way I read his reviews, he's trying to point his readers to better, often less well known movies. This doesn't reduce to someone with a single agenda. He's getting better and better known and I wouldn't be surprised that one of his stories might get offers for movie scripts. Your assessment is a little short-sighted, isn't it?

[@aishaalamoudi599]

​@@raminagrobis6112 Nope. A confident talented person doesn't build his entire online identity around being the ultimate hateclick shill; the paragon sufferer of cultural anxiety around whom rally similar types. His central appeal is professed by his followers; scroll down and read them; they profess to being anxious of where culture is and where it's going and profess to finding community of fellow sufferers of such anxieties in his channel. It's that simple; another embattled and bitter rejectee who allows that rejection to substantiate his entire person. No respectable outlet would even consider publishing him. He's mired in too much filth, that's what you get when you scrape the bottom of society for subscribers; he's eternally virtual.

[@edwardp7725]

I personally found drinker right after star wars episode 8, and ive turned all of my friends on to him. Im sure others have done the same, hence his explosive growth.

[@AllyMonsters]

I think you might be surprised at how much of that might be ironic.

[@Shifft-This]

The Critical Drinker has a very great definition of the issue of wokeness. He's the medium relatable ground. It's all about nuance. Someone gay in a movie doesn't make it woke. A strong, independent woman in a movie doesn't make it woke. It's nuance and purpose. His video "What is Woke"(kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm1dGmGhsd2etE) is pretty spot on with most peoples complaints about this stuff. This stuff isn't as black and white as alot of these political messaging makes it out to be. We should start looking at our similarities and not our differences. At 14:15 he brings up the idea that we don't have any wise old, aspirational characters. This is because the entire woke media push is that all of these old, aspirational characters are morally wrong, incorrect, and outdated. You can't have those characters anymore. At 18:56, I'd be surprised if Disney ever makes that kind of money with a remake again. Aladdin was one of my favorite Disney movies (next to the Lion King). I seen the Lion King remake, and thought it was decent and at least followed the original plotline fairly closely. Aladdin however was an "open your eyes" moment for me. They literally turned Aladdin into Jasmine's wife, and the scene in which he fights with a sword against the giant genie snake Jafar to save Jasmine was completely removed and replaced with... Jasmine singing the villains away with the most cringiest of all cringe songs. I walked out of the theatre saying that I was never going to support another Disney remake again. And I haven't. The agenda was too strong in Aladdin. Aladdin did nothing worth while in his movie to call the movie Aladdin. It should have been called, "Jasmine" because Aladdin did nothing in the movie and was clearly only there to become Jasmine's wife. Either way, this was a great interview and I'm glad I was introduced to a new youtube channel. Definitely keeping an eye on this one in the future.

[@Ashakat42]

Thanks for the link.

[@JDoe-gf5oz]

So what exactly is his definition of woke now?

[@Shifft-This]

@@JDoe-gf5oz kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpm1dGmGhsd2etE In his own words.

[@dreamsdeep1076]

Define woke

[@JDoe-gf5oz]

@@dreamsdeep1076 Black Little Mermaid.

[@jf3391]

Perfect round up of the exact unaccetable rubbish we are force fed now, and this goes beyond movies. Your points need to be seriously considered. Great work lads

[@noless]

I've also gotten this "you just don't like women" response when I've critiziced poorly written characters. I don't get why so many people defend them.

[@roddydykes7053]

13:53 “But now they’re all shit” was the *exact* summary I was thinking as soon as he brought up “deconstructed heros” trope.

[@latinafortruth430]

Very good point about why the bud light boycott worked!! It’s a social thing!

[@thearchivist250]

Enjoyed this conversation. Thoughtful and engaging, even if I disagree with some points. I know he’s playing a character, but CD comes off a little too angry and misogynistic at times. Glad to see the real guy.

[@gangalo68]

One good thing with the Gillette ad was that I stopped buying their products and discovered safety razors. Gillette are like wooden butter knives in comparison 😄

[@IAMthatIAM992]

Def gotta give this a listen. I appreciate your charisma on command series

[@pjbpiano]

Not gonna lie, I subbed to Critical Drinker because I just loved the drink jokes and the voice!

[@patrolpilot3756]

stumbled across the Drinker shortly after he started and I watch everything he puts out. I even started reading his books and they are pretty damn good. Did confuse me when i looked up the first one and thought 'Who the hell is Will Jordan, then i saw this picture and said out loud, "Oh hell! It Is The Drinker!!"

[@blairmcbride5437]

Jon Snow not killing the night king has to be one of the stupidest story lines ever.

[@yothomasbarnes]

This is a brilliant and enjoyable interview, great questions and answers - drinker and co help me not to feel alone in my mourning of Hollywood's downfall.

[@EFJoKeR]

Tolkien was WAY ahead of his time. He could define "Wokeness" before it was a thing. He nailed a quote, that perfectly sums up what "entertainment" is today, under the guise of wokeness... And you've proberbly heard this one before... Especially if you're a Tolkien fan, that loathes "Rings of Power", like me... “Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.” - Tolkien !

[@grantschoenebeck2134]

He borrowed that from Augustine.

[@winstoncrane7803]

100% it's what you say and how you say it we all agree with your reviews.

[@skippydog7053]

I’m from England and I would have loved a lecturer at my university to have been 10% as good as Drinker in educating me in script writing.

[@Hammerhead547]

9:08 That one of the reasons why top gun: maverick was so good. The writers just wrote interesting characters and the actors were cast based on how well they suited the characters and story.

[@adamgates1142]

You seriously think these are interesting characters? I believe the movie's success is because people are sick of cgi and they actually got to see people doing cool things in an action movie again like actually flying these planes as they film themselves. Every single character is a bit of a dud tbh.

[@edfur8196]

I really enjoyed this interview, thank you both

[@imdiyu]

There is only one film critic I trust and that's the Drinker. And, I don't even drink.

[@yeldarbjenkins7495]

Great interview, great questions. Loved some of the more personal topics

[@Ladykyra101]

Hey Drinker, good to see you, always a little weird without the sunglasses (lol). 😎 But, I watched one of your vids, can't remember which (maybe the She-Hulk commentaries), but you said something I thought was pretty pivotal. Writers today (for the most part) have no substance. They themselves have never developed or undergone their own character arc compared to the writers of old (say, 50, 60, 70 years ago). The latter lived lives, experienced great triumphs and crushing defeats, had to overcome dibilitating personal failings, so their writings came from a place of substance, of the raw human experience. Compared to many Hollywood writers today who graduate with a degree, but have no life experience. So, of course they'll be influenced by the "world we live in today" (😉) because for the most part they have nothing to draw from that says any different. Or if they do, that don't have the courage to go against the status quo. Either way, it's quite unfortunate. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@zurvanlol3869]

Excellent podcast. Thank you for speaking out 😮😊