Everything Wrong With Sonic Adventure 2 in Almost 27 Minutes

[@andrewhall7457]

To answer your question about Maria, she lives on the ARK because she basically has no immune system and can't risk living in an unsterilized environment.

[@HYPERxSONICxFANx2012]

@GGR Makes yes

[@dancorps1388]

wait, that means that the raid on the space station by the government would of introduce many germs to the space station, meaning that she was most likely dead even if she didnt get shot, meaning there no way for the dad to know if it was an accidental death or not, meaning his whole revenge thing is even more crazy

[@Emerald152]

@@LUNA-zn7ep I think it was revealed in the manual in SA2

[@seg_fault884]

@@dancorps1388 except for, you know, the bullet hole

[@felps_4500]

@@seg_fault884 Well, that's why he said ""even *IF* she didn't get shot""

[@russianwendigo5036]

Technically, shadow is Eggman's uncle in some twisted way.

[@SuperMonaLisaBros]

Great Uncle.

[@potatoperson252]

@@SuperMonaLisaBros No it is just uncle because if shadow were to be in a twisted way a great uncle then he in the same manner would be geralds sibling but that cant be it because gerald created shadow and unless you give me some B.S about the black arms no, just no.

[@hidefmedia]

You are the eye opener

[@lachstar8340]

So what would that make black doom?

[@ahuman2791]

@A lonely artist Don't give deviantart any ideas!

[@SeleDreams]

the "Amy rose is here" that increases the counter killed me XD

[@Savajj_nahold]

Best reason lf the world for the sin counter

[@heshere6886]

And the big delay between never fear, and Amy rose is here.

[@angelmonroy9644]

As it should

[@BlueBlur2003]

11:05 the relation is that Shadow blames himself for Maria's death and he didn't want to be the one that caused another person's death. That's why he saved Rouge.

[@Zatanna_edits]

Shadow just doesn’t want to see someone he cares about die again

[@Objectivelyuseless]

People in Sonic Universe: I don't know, you hedgehogs all look the same to me

[@HealingVoice39]

But they can tell the difference to Amy and Sonic

[@exmachina8475]

Kirby and Dedede That's the funny part. So I'm guessing it's just "I can't tell the difference between hedgehogs if the same gender."

[@the_wooden_bear]

I mean....to be fair the people have seen sonic transform in sa1 during the chaos attack. Quills are the same, different color yes. Probably mistaken for another transformation

[@ravenwolf8636]

@@HealingVoice39 I can tell the difference between sonic, Shadow and silver.

[@nconnelly3]

No it’s people on earth: all you hedgehogs look the same I’m gonna go after the blue one even though it was the black hedgehog on the news but since we’re so dumb we’ll go after the black hedgehog

[@ShadowBlade972]

There's actually a potential sin I wanna bring up here; rewind to Gerald Robatnik's execution, he announces his entire plan for revenge before a shooting squad and not a singe one decided to think: "Maybe I should tell my superiors to investigate the Ark for ANYTHING he just said" sure he was a raving lunatic by the time they killed him, but given that he actually headed to the Project Shadow you'd think that'd warrent enough credibility to at least double check his threats...

[@sonicparks4978]

ShadowBlade972 Something I should bring up for this is how did the footage of Gerald's execution get sent to the ARK and who sent it? It couldn't have been Gerald; he was dead. A G.U.N. soldier or the commander? So they just decided, "Who wants to see this footage, let's just send it to ARK so no one can find out what happened. Who cares what Gerald said? He was insane. It's not like anything he said is important. Let's just destroy his existence."? If that's the case, that's one irresponsible, naive and disorganised army.

[@exmachina8475]

Sonic Parks I’m pretty sure Charriii mentioned that. But yeah, those are good point.

[@sonicparks4978]

He did say, "How did he program the ARK to reproduce this 50-year-old HD WMV file of his own execution?", but he assumes that it was Gerald who sent it, when he couldn't have because that very file showed him speaking his final words, thus, he was dead.

[@Eric-tq8lc]

So are you shad. Or are you Blaze

[@TheTwilightQueen_]

@Daniel von Strangle To be completely fair, I agree with some of these theories but as I was reading your points I came up with this: Maybe, the reason all of that was possible was because Shadow set it all up he did say he some how "reprogrammed" The ultimate life form which we assume to either mean Shadow or bio-lizard. Given Shadow was on earth it seemed more likely for it to be him. Also he was a "secret government project" few knew about so in reality it wouldn't be too hard to believe in his time off camera (which is quite a lot actually) he could have set all of this up. Also explains his change of heart near the end maybe it was temporary brain washing or something that caused him to want to go through with such a plan though that seems like a stretch. Anyhow that's my take on the whole execution projection and arc kamikaze thing.

[@thecardusguy5610]

Well, if you think about it "Fake Hedgehog" is appropriate since Shadow is supposed to be an artificial life form.

[@thecardusguy5610]

But then again, no way Sonic could've known that he was an artificial life form, he just thought he was an imposter so....Still a sin.

[@PokeMaster22222]

+Dr. Cardus And talking about 'Fake X', Shadow saying "an Emerald that's fake" is an example of extremely poor translation/no-one looking over the translation to find oddities. "A fake Emerald" is so much better, in English, because the one used is so...roundabout, unnatural. Did an English team do the writing? Or did any natural English speakers read over the translations provided by Japanese writers? Doesn't seem like it.

[@thecardusguy5610]

+PokeMaster22222 In the final story, in the cutscene that plays after you defeat the Biolizard, once the lizard will use Chaos Control Shadow will say "Is that what...Chaos Control is?" which is ALSO a translation error (I don't remember now what he said in the japanese version though)

[@kayleetaylor9883]

+Dr. Cardus That's what I was thinking too!

[@aidenberto6882]

+Dr. Cardus In Sonic adventure 2 shadow is alive, due to fans loving him SEGA had to think of a way to bring him back.

[@KirbyLinkACW]

5:58 *Chariii5:* Physics? What are those? *Shadow:* Exactly!

[@aidenbrevans6045]

[ding]

[@thanos9189]

Good one

[@joshd1071]

lol God Christ Jesus bless you all

[@joshd1071]

i pray you all can have a wonderful relationship with God full of love joy and happiness:" )

[@ryanakrim623]

@@joshd1071 thank you

[@landofhartbjorn9388]

Charriii: What's impossible? That someone other than Sonic defies you, or that there's another male hedgehog besides Sonic? Me: ...Yes.

[@remixchild]

Remember Amy?

[@thewhitefox6478]

@@remixchildamy is a female hedgehog not a male hedgehog like he specified

[@Gorilla-r4g]

Silver exists too

[@darthtyranus787]

@@Gorilla-r4g i mean mephiles

[@oatatus4102]

Ah yeah silver was in sonic adventure 1

[@hunterfunnyguy]

Just saying, that Shadow voice at the beginning was spot on. XD

[@hunterfunnyguy]

Arianne Frampton In SA2 it's pretty cool if you can sound like Shadow, but in any other game you just deepen your voice and you're like "IEM SHADO"

[@sleepypuppet6933]

+periquete I was expecting this to be top comment! Nice one, man!

[@superlombax1561]

Yep. Amazing.

[@mrsupersonic1671]

you should hear mine it's closer to the ones in the games

[@AshMos]

+trenthedgehog1671 Quit bragging

[@IndyTheGreat]

You go from a giant lizard to a hedgehog cause Biolizard was based off of Chaos and Shadow was based off of the super hedgehog fighting him in the mural from Sonic Adventure. HOW DOES ANYONE NOT REALIZE THIS??

[@AyseeMD]

Well first Gerald made Shadow fifty years before the fight and 2. Why the hell would Gerald not give his grandson a spanking for trying to take over the world if he was still alive at that point and 2. Why the hell would Gerald care about or be in station square at the time

[@IndyTheGreat]

Ghostx2xelite Yeah, because Shadow was made before the ancients made that mural.

[@AyseeMD]

What fucking moral

[@IndyTheGreat]

Ghostx2xelite The mural seen in Sonic Adventure depicting perfect chaos fighting a super hedgehog?

[@datdamnmegabusta5604]

Holy shit...I always knew the 2nd fact...but the Biolizard thing just blew my mind! That means that...Shadow's fight with the thing is one hell of a symbolic parallel to Sonic's fight with Chaos!!!!

[@littenfire3563]

the part with Shadow seeing Maria and Rouge actually makes sense. He was sort of comparing the two, seeing Rouge as a girl in a dear-death situation that made her helpless, just like Maria

[@MetalSonicReject]

Anybody think SEGA should remake SA 1 & 2?

[@JonnyCars100]

Definitely. I know there's the HD remakes, but I want a full-on remaster of this game and adventure 1.

[@fightme8166]

+MetalSonicReject There's a lot of things that SEGA should be doing rn...

[@JonnyCars100]

+Dear Sega Probably, but I think this would make them more successful.

[@stormcutter59]

Absolutely! I love this game to death but it's clear to me that the game has aged too much. I want this sound design cleaned up so people can truly appreciate the story as it was meant to. A graphical update would also be great as well. If only the original voices came back for the game however I think a good sound mixer would be enough

[@lisabarnes924]

+Joseph Franc well Sega needs better voice actors and writers because "you're" was used incorrectly and bothered the cap out of me.

[@mallardwill]

GAMING SIN TALLY: 168 SENTENCE: *REVENGE* "wait. revenge? revenge for what?" DING

[@theoneandonlyaj88]

169 Sins den

[@theoneandonlyaj88]

kosobay lol DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING

[@theoneandonlyaj88]

kosobay lol DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

[@callmezeldaonemoartime]

EarnhardtCountry so 227 sins?

[@threemad8456]

Will whydoineedalastname ......For killing Maria...?

[@Hutch2Much]

i don’t care how ridiculous and flawed this game is, you will find me dead before i stop crying at Sonic saying “Sayonara, Shadow the Hedgehog”

[@drfs9341]

Hutch2Much it was a very sad moment :(

[@hydrochloric007]

WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY ABOUT THIS GAME?

[@MrJtYates]

Every bit of the ending had me in a waterfall, even the dumb part where tails replied to Eggman's deep moment with "idk, but we all did it together"

[@theneoreformationist]

But how did sonic even KNOW ABOUT THAT QUOTE FROM MARIA

[@iananderson4754]

I know right somehow I can't help but shed a tear during the finale

[@stevensteviepryde5888]

27:24 Sonic was wondering if Shadow died. He said in quote: "Could he... the ultimate life form?"

[@lpfan4491]

I always thought he said "created..." instead of "could he?". that would be more of a reference to how he thinks about shadows being as a whole and that shadow says that sonic might be the real ultimate life form(as shadow was based on super sonic, but the characters do not know that)

[@jcharmaine1]

@@lpfan4491 e

[@manicbeyond]

All I heard when I first played the game was "Ultimate"

[@elibonham4388]

@@lpfan4491 yea I did too but u can clearly hear could he

[@chaos_crew766]

​@@elibonham4388Innit

[@gravity8120]

Most of the sins seemed to involve: A) Not being able to hear anyone over the music. B) Everyone cutting eachother off before they finished their sentences. But seriously, how hard could it be to just turn the music down a bit?

[@phanto4572]

Cough cough still can't can't hear the voices cough wheeze

[@superlombax1561]

Yep

[@lawless7512]

I couldn't hear the voices even if with music down :/

[@Pumpkinsmasherok]

Sorry what did you say? I can't hear you over the music

[@louiseechoes]

25:12 the first prototype was based on the perfect chaos mural found in the mystic ruins but it failed so the other option was the supersonic mural which is why shadow looks the way he does

[@Eric-py8yy]

Why they didn't kill that creature?

[@charlottehobday4495]

Actually, After Perfect Chaos was defeated by Super Sonic, the Station Square government might have found one of the Emeralds after Sonic was done with them and rewarded it to Tails for stopping Eggman's nuke.

[@charlottehobday4495]

Also, in the background of the scene with Knuckles and Rouge almost falling in the lava, in the background, BIG THE CAT!!!

[@charlottehobday4495]

Actually, he can be seen in almost every level and by him I mean BIIIIIG THEEEE CAAAAAAAAAAAA-

[@batch_2731]

Nope, Knuckles has 6 when Chaos 6 is beaten, the 7th is actually mounted to the front of the plane Tails used to fly himself and Sonic onto the Egg Carrier which ends up crashing into the Mystic Ruins Forest when Big the Cat flies it from the Egg Carrier to the forest. So Station Square government never had a Chaos Emerald at all. Sega messed up the story and didn't notice it.

[@charlottehobday4495]

Oh, also maybe the reason Shadow fell and Sonic didn't was some DBZ stuff. Sonic has gone super before but this is Shadow's first time.Maybe Sonic's learned how to use his power more efficiently so he can last longer.

[@batch_2731]

That would imply that Sonic kept the Emeralds in his possession to use them for that purpose which without another source cannot be proven.

[@devourerofbigmacs7858]

17:45 I saw that in the real time dub and was absolutely sure that, for some reason, this was edited into the footage. *Never would I have believed that this is in the original game, what the fuck*

[@robertlupa8273]

I haven't seen the dub version nor the original version once before. I laughed. xD

[@TheCreationOfDread]

Maria... *Explosion*

[@ChemionAsen]

12:10 I'm gonna go higher! I'M PISSING ON THE MOON!!!

[@Mepphy99]

And fuck Obama

[@pikasome2585]

HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT OBAMA

[@Shadzo747_]

I PISSED ON THE MOON

[@fernandoguillen5996]

You have 23 hours before the piss drrroplets hits the plucking earth, now get out of my plucking earth before i piss on you too!

[@superlombax1561]

Lol. That freaking fandub

[@Trillyana]

-10 sins because of Escape from the City -10 more sins for the rest of the music -20 sins for the entire Chao garden +10 sins for Tails/Robotnik stages and hearing BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEEP from shooting the whole time +10 sins for the entire existence of Knuckles/Rouge stages +5 sins for camera +1000 sins for Omochao

[@Gweniepoo776]

God dammit maths

[@schmeggomeggo]

Trillyana I LOVED THE KNUCKLES/ROUGE STAGES. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!

[@Thomlin12]

1,153 sins....wow...

[@petritdauti6258]

Trillyana Omochao is worth more Have you ever played Sonic The Hedgehog Omochao Edition? If not you have to

[@sambarham8887]

Trillyana - 10000 for being able to beat the shit out of Omochao

[@Shadowflutter196]

8:42 Charriii5 says "What are those black stripes on Amy's shoes?" but the subtitles say "What are those black stripes on Amy's boots?"

[@gymleadergaius5680]

DING

[@raptorzeraora2632]

26:27 i think its because sonic is more experienced in using his super form after all this is shadow's first time using it so it makes sense

[@Glitchy588Live]

still a no, in sonic 2 he was fine after leaving the exploded death egg

[@noahgaming8833]

@@Glitchy588Live what?

[@Glitchy588Live]

@@noahgaming8833 raptor thinks shadow only using his super form once led to his death, Sonic on the other hand lived while falling from space when first going super aswell

[@noahgaming8833]

@@Glitchy588Live that’s why they made shadow the hedgehog

[@Glitchy588Live]

@@noahgaming8833 what?

[@arianameinking688]

I heard the Sonic/Shadow mix up explained like this: Sonic was the only anthropomorphic super powered hedgehog they knew about. And since Shadow had similar powers, and since Sonic could have gotten new shoes, changed his quill style, and painted himself new colors they figured it was Sonic. Why would he have changed his colors and looks, you ask? As a disguise or something... Idk. I still think the mix up is ridiculous, but that explanation made it seem a little more sensible.

[@elibonham4388]

Honestly I don't have a problem with this at all sonic 06 Amy confuses silver for sonic. She confuses the werehog for sonic (even though he technically was sonic) he'll tails even confuse classic sonic for modern sonic even though classic sonic is shorter and chubbier at least the sonic series is consistent with the confusion of other characters. Which makes this set of events less agregous. Also shadows initial concept was to literally be a reflection of sonic, and they were supposed to look pretty much exactley like eachother with the quills and everything you can even see in concept art in Google images if you want. That's why sonic and shadow say they look exactley alike. I'm assuming they changed the design so he can be more of his own character also be more appealing (cuz the old design kind of looked ugly) I think this change was smart at the sacrifice of it being odd. EVEN than though I still can buy this in every way, spiderman gets the black symbiote and everyone still recognizes him as spiderman albeit with a new costume. This could be similar to that.

[@Kaylee-Bear]

when they were writing that part of the script, they were working with Terios - who looks a lot more like Sonic. they later switched the mirror character to Shadow, but they didn't think {or just didnt have the time} to change the plot to fit a character that looks different

[@rcmero]

Fun fact: this game was translated from English to Japanese, then back to English. That's why the cutscenes desync all the time.

[@soulless9081]

No wonder why their voice acting is shit. :D

[@aronswift4630]

well duh... i didnt know people didnt knew that.

[@xzb7644]

+Soshi Tamashi You're stupid it doesn't have anything to do with voice acting it's lip syncing

[@Ninetails2000]

Actually, it's because they never re-synched the acting for the English dub. The back and forth translation IS responsible for stuff like Shadow shouting "Is that what Chaos Control is!?" instead of "Was that Chaos Control!?" and all of the Japanese shouting being carried over into English like Sonic shouting "Teriah", Eggman using "Yosh" and Knuckles using "Oraoraora"

[@beta511ee4]

@@soulless9081 Okay, that's got nothing to do with lip-syncing.

[@MysteriousMew]

After rewatching this, I only now had realized something, if Tails was smart enough to create the weaker version of the Chaos Emeralds, why hasn't he made more in the event they need it? Now you could argue that they are too weak to go super, but I'll argue that if Tails at least made 1 Sonic could use Chaos Control to solve some issues, this also goes for Shadow in the event they don't/can't find the chaos emeralds, like in Sonic Forces where if they had these fake emeralds, they could have fooled Eggman, which to quote Tails "Even a machine can't tell the difference" and the only reason Eggman knew it was a fake was because Tails slipped up. Plus they have enough energy to counter the actual emeralds. Also they are strong enough to be used multiple times as soon with Sonic, even after Chaos control it clearly isn't shattered or broken. TL;DR, Why doesn't Tails just make more fake emeralds so that they have more access to Chaos based moves? IT is made clear all you need to do is see the damn move as sonic preforms Chaos Control only seeing it once or twice. Plus this could work as an alternate power source of Tails' invention Literally the main characters would only benefit from making fake emeralds more often. What if they need a real emerald to make a copy? Go find the emerald? I mean they've found them plenty of times so just find one

[@Eric-py8yy]

You know... that's pretty smart observation! This would cut sonic games in half! I think the only excuse I can think is hard to mass produce them or in some moment Tails forgot the plants of making one but either way would still get a pretty good advantage but...How Tails created these fake emeralds? I don't know much about Sonic but I know that the emeralds are ancient artifacts of imesurable power soo how he got the technology to do and...why didn't the guverment thought on thet?...WHAT ARE THE RULES GOD DAMNIT

[@noahgaming8833]

@@Eric-py8yy it didn’t really matter, eggman knew it was a fake

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

Because it's probably really hard to make and Eggman developed something to detect the fakes probably

[@MysteriousMew]

@@Breakaway-ic5gj But isn't this the only time in the games Tails makes a fake one? If he was doing this years, then it would make sense for Eggman to create a emerald detector to find out which one is fake. And okay, fair it probably took him a large chunk of time to create one. But my counter point is- It wouldn't/shouldn't stop him from making a set, it isn't like Eggman is attacking them every moment, even with the timeline being- no so straight forward the games do have down time between them. However I'm not sure it ultimately matters, it would probably be out of character for most of them to use chaos attacks the same way Shadow does, there have been plenty of chances for Sonic to use Chaos Control and such but never chose to do it, in the case against SA 2 Shadow in his boss fight, one could argue Sonic is being pushed to his limit and only then justifies the use of Chaos Control, which would (kinda?) explain why Super sonic is usually never considered (this last one is brought to you by- me, making an excuse for the writers to not mention the chaos or master emerald)

[@DustyMusician]

if Eggman blew up the moon, science wouldn't allow the Earth to keep on trucking as it had, either...

[@FriedrichTheGreatest]

The fucking subtitle font is in COMIC SAAAANS

[@warryarusboi]

Hue hue hue hue

[@haos3589]

nyeh heh heh!

[@sanicgamingleggett3631]

+Necrmancer Castle Crashers (The Necromancer) lol

[@dontworryboutme3734]

+PixelatedKnux nyeh heh heh

[@reecedoesntexist823]

+PixelatedKnux UMG KNACKLES JAMACKLES

[@Tr4yst3r]

I like how everytime i watch these cutscenes i forget its not the fandub and expect them to say the lines.

[@johnpinto8299]

"Well it seems shadow was enjoying the moment" 😂😂😂😂😂

[@PokemonRioluRed]

Just so you guys know, Sonic and the crew keep interrupting each other so they could talk at the same moment as in the japanese version of the game.

[@YourCrazyDolphin]

Corobby I find that it also works oit in some cutscenes, usually in something like Sonic Vs. Shadow where Sonic is just very pissed about there being an imposter.

[@DimmVargr]

But Japanese is much more long-winded than English.

[@ivaldi13]

No, Dimm, most older forms of Japanese are more long-winded, but modern Japanese is riddled with so many abbreviations and colloquialisms that it does end up being faster than English pretty often.

[@chimanruler15]

+ivaldi13 That's pretty interesting. I always thought that since Japanese is less meaning-dense than English, it would hardly be faster, but the former does use a lot of omissions.

[@georgecortes3416]

To highlight the dialogue issues: One, characters interrupt each other constantly because this game was made with Japanese dialogue in mind; listening to the Japanese actors makes the conversations flow more smoothly and is also why something like Maria is spelled, “Ma-Ri-A.” is used instead of “M-a-r-I-a” since the former is how you do so in Japanese Katakana. And two, barely hearing the characters at all is due to the music drowning out the character voices and this is most apparent in the HD version of SA2 Battle. While the original Dreamcast and even the GameCube versions still have this problem, it’s not nearly as bad and I recommend the GameCube version since its controller just feels so natural for it; though the HD version can also be modded to have a certain randomizer, so yeah.

[@TheConnorWing]

The best part of SA2: Rolling around at the speed of sound Got places to go, gotta follow my rainbow Can't stick around, have to keep movin' on Guess what lies ahead, only one way to find out Must keep on movin' ahead No time for guessin', follow my plan instead Trusting in what you can't see Take my lead, I'll set you free Follow me - set me free - trust me And we will escape from the city I'll make it through, follow - Follow me - set me free - trust me And we will escape from the city I'll make it through, prove it to you Follow me Danger is lurking around every turn Trust your feelings, gotta live and learn I know with some luck that I'll make it through Got no other options, only one things to do I don't care what lies ahead No time for guessin', follow my plan instead Find that next stage no matter what that may be Take my lead, I'll set you free Follow me - set me free - trust me And we will escape from the city I'll make it through, follow - Follow me - set me free - trust me And we will escape from the city I'll make it through, prove it to you Follow me Follow me I'll make it through, Oh, yeah.

[@tailsrhtatonslice1418]

Connor Monie no actually the best part of SA2 is Live and Learn

[@MimiCupcakeDean]

I actually liked Classic Sonic's version of it more then modern, thanks.

[@yannismensah4170]

Sad

[@monadoartist6790]

“FOLLOW MY RAINBOW” Sonic Is there anything Anything at all That you need to tell us

[@raptorzeraora2632]

what about chao garden

[@tigertim620]

12:10 *Insert obligatory: "HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT OBAMA, I PISSED ON THE MOON YOU IDIOT!" comment here*

[@BlueRyuu246]

YOU HAVE TWENTY THREE HOURS BEFORE THE PISS DRRRROPLETS HIT THE FUCKING EARTH! NOW GET OUT OF MY FUCKING SIGHT BEFORE I PISS ON YOU TWO!

[@rockmanx3885]

"FUCK YOU MOON YOU NEVER HAD THE CHEESE I WANTED!!!!"

[@jackhumphries1087]

I would have said that charriii missed out on an amazing joke, but then I remembered that this video predates the real-time Fandub by 4 years

[@brandonnero73]

+Charriii5 I read that Sonic is able to perform Chaos Control because he's been exposed to their usable energy forces for so long.

[@miguelanderson4116]

Buts that fake emerald with no choas energy

[@arianameinking688]

4:34 Shadow, please don't interrupt Sonic. Also, I can't hear you! Isn't that basically every cutscene in that game? I love the story of that game, but everyone cutting each other off and loud music playing in the background makes it hard to follow.

[@TheCreationOfDread]

Youre not good enough to be my f- I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS!

[@JetSetDman]

Shadow? Was that _YOU_ narrating that intro?

[@igorvuckovic7846]

wHat joke

[@toontownrewrittenhasnobldg3545]

YES!!!! but 1 year older

[@FaeChangeling]

The reason Sonic didn't die but Shadow did is because Shadow put all of his effort and energy into stopping it, whereas Sonic couldn't be assed saving anyone and only went about half power. Shadow done all the work and died as a result. Heck, Sonic even lets go when Shadow goes all out, just like "eh, he's tryharding now so I'll just leave it to him." And didn't Shadow take off his Inhibiter Rings? That's probably how Sonic got them but not Shadow. Also, We have seen Sonic fall from space and land face-first into the ground without so much of a bruise, are we really supposed to believe Shadow would die from that fall when he's actually *stronger* than Sonic?!

[@maanitaman]

So, long story short: Sonic is a dick to Shadow. *ding*

[@infinite6356]

shadow didnt die

[@Clara_Page]

+Darth Dood I thought he did die? He Just got replaced by a variety of clones and robots which is why He has no memory at then start of every game because hes actually a different Shadow replica... although it is implied that one of them might be the real Shadow

[@infinite6356]

Clara Pagett how can a robot die?

[@Clara_Page]

Darth Dood I'm not sure i understand what you are questioning?

[@princereechaos133]

MISSING SIN: Tails heard about a top-secret base.......... ON TV! Let that sink in. Top-secret base, shown on TV......

[@aero668]

18:40 *Rouge’s* theme plays when it’s focused on *Shadow* And they cut each other off when Tails hits the space ship of because let’s face it, we all do that, right?

[@naswiththemetal]

21:17 does that make Eggman and Maria related? And why doesn't the Professor care about Eggman as much as he does Maria? AND WHY DOESN'T *SEGA* MAKE A ORIGIN STORY ABOUT EGGMAN?! And what about Maria? We barley know anything about her, accept the fact she died on the Ark and she couldn't got to Earth because of her disease. But she still needs and origin story. The Gamers/Viewers still have questions like "who are Maria's and Eggman's parents?" "How did Maria get her disease?'' "Why did Eggman become evil and why does he hate Sonic so much?" The comics gave us most of these anwsers but those were told in a different story. in the comics Maria sacrificed herself for shadow, We got the origins of sonic and Eggman, and how they became who they are now. But the games expects us to know the origins of these characters. Some of these gamers/viewers don't know crap of these character Origins. I bet *SEGA* knows either. They just *ASSUMED* we knew and just mae the games without any backstory or a prolouge.

[@godofwar234regi5]

Related? Yes.

[@julioornano8427]

Well to be fair.. this is the 2ND adventure (title wise) half of your questions such as why is eggman evil and hates sonic is not something people would be asking in the 2ND Installment. As for Maria. I see her as a prop, Her excisitense alone was merely for shadows origin...and I think Gerald was staying in the arc wit Maria while eggman lived on earth

[@Mepphy99]

I mean Sonic fucks up Eggman Plan since Sonic 1 So that's that Also yeah sega Will never explain US After Shadow the hedgehog

[@Eric-py8yy]

Man if your story doesn't tell or show a thing on the actual media and instead show on another media soo the story has bad telling, the one line ONE line who shows a little of Eggman past is past Eggman on Generations saying "I should stayed on college to teaching" (something like that) and even then we can't actually tell if is actually veridic because might just be a thrown away joke

[@Lioleusu]

Eggman wanted to build an amusement park and Sonic stops him. He tries again and his plan fails... Again, that is why Eggman hates sonic. Also Maria was most likely born with the disease.

[@CrystalicDivinty]

Dr. Ehgman: don't mind me just having a stroke Shadow and Rouge: Dafuq

[@CaptainCrunchOfficial]

Ehgman

[@ghettokage6104]

*eHgMaN*

[@LetsPlayWoomy8835]

Ehgman

[@AHappyBlackGuy]

I always wondered how Gerald went from a giant lizard to a small hedgehog too until I thought about it. Gerald researched the ancient echidna tribe so he likely saw the mural of Perfect Chaos in the Lost World of Mystic Ruins so he made Artificial Chaos and eventually used Perfect Chaos as the basis of the Biolizard. When the prototype proved to be a flop he used the mural of Super Sonic located in the Hidden Palace as the basis for Shadow.

[@lyshart9909]

17:12 Who Rouge is talking to? None other than the stupid cat himself! BIG THE CAT!!!

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

You can't call someone who can pilot vehicles without prior experience stupid. Time to get medieval on your ass.

[@marcelinechan]

Btw u forgot to add the Sin of Rouge saying "I'm trapped in this locked safe with A chaos emerald" she has three

[@killakator1127]

Wow... Um, Shadow the Hedgehog had less sins

[@raptorzeraora2632]

its just for fun not to be taken seriously

[@brandonvestra]

fewer*

[@manicunderground4247]

Not anymore!

[@lpfan4491]

a part of it comes from the horrid localisation sa2 has

[@choijisul]

But you have to play the game over and over so you have to sin over and over

[@JKDrixter]

25:20 that is a mistranslation he is supposed to say "That was chaos control!"

[@superlombax1561]

A running gag here is that the music is louder than the voices. Edit: Yeah, no duh, younger me. Lol

[@faidou9954]

TERIAAAAA!!! Also, this is the closest in sonic history that Eggman has gotten to killing sonic.

[@CtDAN1]

Other than chucking Sonic out into space and letting him crash into the earth. Seriously, if Shadow fell unconscious upon impact in his Super form, Sonic should've died.

[@MrDay-sd8ns]

+MrCStache or it was one of the many other shadows seen in Sonic heroes.

[@CtDAN1]

+MrCStache Yeah, I just still find it kind of stupid....Specifically with Sonic, considering that Shadow was rescued by one of Eggman's robots while just coming out of his Super form...And Sonic is apparently a f*cking Kryptonian.

[@CtDAN1]

***** Either that or the laws of physics in Sonic's universe are bullsh- *realizes that Sonic and Eggman can breathe in space, the Lost Hex actually exists, there is literally a creature that could erase time and space at will and Chaos Emeralds....Just anything involving the Chaos Emeralds, and the Emeralds in general* .....I....I'll just stop....F*cking Sonic, f*cking hedgehogs, f*cking Eggman, all the f*cking sh*t.......

[@MrDay-sd8ns]

Oh

[@ragequazar]

7:33 I love how he speaks at the same time as the music xD

[@jjkeyboards]

are you AB-SO-LUTE-LY SURE brilliant

[@arche-asuku2400]

Well Belive What You Wat You Want To B.E.L.I.V.E

[@stellanparsons5767]

what the hell sonic

[@tailsrhtatonslice1418]

Kyurem The Glaciomancer LOL

[@kassandrax2322]

Kyurem The Glaciomancer xD lol I Just regonized

[@sophiej6893]

That thing about the Echidna Tribe - It's supposedly called the Knuckles Tribe (coincidence, right?) and had been gone for 4000 years according to a dead echidna named Tikal. Knuckles is one of the few descendants.

[@madeleine5305]

Sophie J do you kno de wae, my brotha!!!

[@aridontou7544]

Hey Shadow, instead of wasting, like 5 mins fighting sonic... How about just telling him that your colleague is trapped in a prison cell with a chaos emerald on this island... THAT IS RIGGED WITH EXPLOSIVES!

[@sirranttime5746]

TERIAAAAAAA!

[@LetsPlayWoomy8835]

15:15 as a line from the Snapcube Hero Story Real Time Fandub goes, "WHAT!? WHAT!? WH-WHY IS NASA THERE!?"

[@TheCreationOfDread]

"IM SO CONFUSED!!!"

[@NAVEnterTainMent]

Sonic's head turned so perfectly when he said " that's racist"

[@Uru19861]

32 - Why of course the japanese says "Hedgehog impostor". 73 - Why is everyone misunderstanding what she said? 5 MINUTES enough to get the Chaos Emeralds, no "Set the bomb in 5 minutes". Or else, whats the point of having a 10 minute White Jungle later? (Or should I said, 10 minutes in cutscene here: 10:19) 74 - I think they would not consider that a better option. If they knew she works undercover for Eggman, hanging over the Emeralds are not the best choice. 158 - Fap fap?

[@nathanieltheoneandonly5933]

The only thing wrong about this game is the fact that the music drowns out the dialogue

[@StudioGeekFactory]

SmearyPage 10 months late, but this has to be said. That is DEFINITELY not the only thing wrong with this game. This game was awful in almost every aspect it presented. And people only like it for nostalgia reasons. Any other reason other than legitimately liking a terrible game is just moot.

[@camsPatience]

I genuinely like the Adventure games, yet not for nostalgia reasons. I just find it fun, even with its issues.

[@demi-femme4821]

which is only a problem in the English versions of the game, the sound mixing is just fine in the Japanese version (They made the cutscenes, the team in San Francisco made the gameplay)

[@SladeTheHedgehog]

yeah you have a point but it was the second good 3d sonic game in the series. They wanted to get some stuff across. I sure they didn't do this on purpose

[@dragonempress8367]

Besides the dated graphics

[@SmashQueen]

Man, I forgot how often the voice syncs screw up in SA2B. Kudos for getting the cutscenes in chronological order. Also, strike for you Tails. You saw a news broadcast about a secret military base. Not so secret then, is it?

[@r3v_v7]

10:38 17:58 18:24 22:33 25:20 my opinion to how funny those parts were.

[@iikyrohyt]

25:10

[@dragonempress8367]

Your profile pic is so cute!

[@marcelinechan]

Btw when Rouge said "5 minutes should be plenty" she meant she could do it in only 5 minutes

[@iceflame9535]

3:53 The “What?” scene is my favorite because I saw an edit where Shadow says “I’m making f*cking mac and cheese, and no one can stop me!” while the chaos emeralds is replaced by a box of Kraft mac and cheese, and it is the funniest thing ever.

[@TheCreationOfDread]

Chariii5: Discount Coca-Cola Sonic: What?

[@OnlyGoken]

26:20 actually, despite all the qualms I have with the story, Shadow explains that he can't control his super form that well if you wait long enough in the FinalHazard fight. Sonic has used his super form 3 (4 if you include Sonic Pocket Adventure) times before this, and this is only Shadow's first time. That's one of the few elements the game covered up. Either I loved this video xD

[@vanilla8956]

i found you again!

[@OnlyGoken]

λ Seth of the Stλrs Welp.

[@glitchgaming5194]

OK but in sonic 2 after his FIRST use, he controlled it fine, tails only saves him in the non super ending

[@OnlyGoken]

@@glitchgaming5194 kinda not my point. Sonic has a lot more experience in his Super form but Shadow doesn't. Sonic controlled it find but to be fair I always assumed its because what he was doing was far less taxing on his power while Shadow used a super charged Chaos Control

[@lovelylow69]

Shadow’s inhibitor rings limited his power, but when he took them off, he used more power than it should’ve, and he was weak when he fell back down, meaning he couldn’t fly back up.

[@akeemtaylor8375]

Perfect Sonic but he didnt take them of

[@ink_snow7334]

@@akeemtaylor8375 in Sonic x he does

[@mohamadou4695]

He’s basically sinning the audience for assuming shadow was dead

[@superlombax1561]

@@ink_snow7334 Yeah, but then again SA2 was made before Sonic X I believe and some people only consider it an adaptation and not the actual events, so take that how they will.

[@keeweefroot2692]

This was my favorite game when I was younger and my first GameCube game alongside Animal Crossing. Played it again recently in 2014. Never gets old to me.

[@buba7330]

i only bought the game back then for the chao. that was it

[@jayronanderson1890]

I bought this piece of shit a mouth ago for Da chaos to

[@sereneillusions5812]

Buba saaame I just got it a few weeks ago for the chao

[@Genericname]

._.

[@Raptor3698]

Ok seriously, why do people (especially and mostly Amy) get these male hedgehogs mixed up with Sonic. First Shadow, then Nazo (even though that wasn't Canon and at least didn't completely mix them up) and then Silver. Well that's Colorblind at its finest XD. Even if they aren't how do you get the shapes of their figures mixed up? ESPECIALLY SILVER?

[@blueeyeddrago3540]

I know right?

[@BlackVulpine]

Although you could argue that it was dark when Amy spotted Silver for the first time.

[@hunterearl1273]

Dips***

[@cqkey_]

omg ur right XD

[@crazysmith5408]

+Black Vulpine That's what I go with for her and Silver, while everyone in this game is straight up blind.

[@MuMushadewkun]

is it just me or does sonic x makes sense then the game?

[@Angel-gm5qo]

No, the show makes more sense.

[@MuMushadewkun]

Angel Gaines I see

[@theredraven6]

+Shadow The Hedgehog I FCKIN LOVE SONIC X XD

[@MuMushadewkun]

The RedRaven lol

[@shadowacesonic2827]

I love Sonic X. I love your profile pic even more. Where did you find it?!?!

[@failfleet2297]

I can only hear the Sonic Real Time Fandub every time I see the cutscenes in this game

[@MegaMachiOnline]

disclaimer kinda sounds like Gaara

[@mrstealyogril9426]

Think it's supposed to be Shadow

[@Cyndaquil790]

it because of poor voice quality, I can see the attempt to replicate shadow, but it sounds more like gaara

[@ensei_alice]

By the way, they interrupt themselves because they literally just paste the english dubs where the japanese ones were. Some Japanese lines were shorter, making the english ones overlap.

[@grumblemumble955]

10:38 I think that the whole flashback had to do with Shadow's promise to Maria before she died. In Sonic X, Shadow promised Maria, during her final moments, that he would protect the people of Earth. Therefore, the flashback triggered. I know this is late, but whatever.

[@remixchild]

When looking at both let’s plays sonic x had little to do with the games (wish it wasn’t overshadowed by everything else)

[@Estus1999]

So I know it's been years, but I come back to this every once in a while because it's fun. But I just had a funny thought... Totally should have had a bonus round for every cutscene with Big the Cat. And every obvious stage appearance.

[@aquaduud]

The music and lines cutting each other off are due to transferring the Japanese game to america

[@SuperMonaLisaBros]

Not a valid excuse.

[@emceemunchapussy1891]

Some of the Japanese lines cut off each other too, but to a lesser extent

[@beta511ee4]

Simone Pardee Eh, kinda. It helps to explain some details that reviewers may have gotten wrong.

[@hydrochloric007]

Some of those lines (mostly between Sonic and Shadow) are interrupted even in the japanese version, implying that they made sonic and shadow interrupt eachother on purpose which kinda makes sense because they have a rivalry

[@aquaduud]

Get some bitches

[@sonicsoapshoes]

9:45 the question I always asked when I was a kid

[@Genericname]

Lmao

[@awesomecat9898]

why are the graphics for the subtitiles messed up sometimes?

[@khaledalmahbashi3345]

because Sega is lazy XD

[@rcmero]

I believe it's because the subtitles are actually prerendered graphics. Must have been cheaper back in 96.

[@inactive2016]

John the Crossover Master 1996? This is 2001, buddy.

[@maniacaal]

John the Crossover Master this came out in 2001

[@Pointerr]

because the usa version put the japan version of chat thats why the cutcenes are messed up

[@IzzuZiq]

In the original japanese continuity, Eggman was already known as Eggman since the Classic era. Just saying.

[@AyseeMD]

"This video was for Comedy purposes only"

[@IzzuZiq]

Ghostx2xelite I am just pointing that out. I still enjoy this video anyway.

[@rodrickheffley4830]

Dude seriously, why do I see you everywhere in this video comments

[@jerm70]

***** But still localization and the si mple fact everybody who played SA1 knows that Robotnik is Eggman and vice versa. So they could of used Robotnik for the part with the message and Eggman for the rest of the game.

[@AyseeMD]

But why would they do that the better thing would be to never change it at all just keep it a nickname

[@gooey7745]

"It has the same wavelength and properties, but is less powerful than the real one." Were they describing someone's Sonic OC?

[@n.d.engleson6499]

2:24 - Missed sin-- Knuckles smashes the Master Emerald without even touching it. He's telekinetic!

[@Explosion_Mage]

ever notice that sin 69 is about marriage sorry i just had to

[@YugenOfficial]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@ninjareaper4828]

Sin #118: If you hold down the A button, Big appears in some cutscenes. Rouge was talking to him in the cutscene and that is the only cutscene with Big where he is actually acknowledged as being there. If you didn't know or do that trick then Rouge is basically talking to no one.

[@mruptownK]

What? Thatdan easter egg Rouge will still be talking to herself.

[@kajuanlockett8980]

+Ninja Reaper Only problem with that is that the Big easter egg isn't in the original on Dreamcast (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) They added that in the Gamecube version, so it doesn't make sense.

[@bluecheckmiya]

+Chikaku Kasai um....... no. It is 100% confirmed in the Gamecube verison that player input makes him appear in cutscenes. Not only have I personally done it before but how do you think i even knew about it? lmfao

[@bluecheckmiya]

+Chikaku Kasai and in fact not all of his locations are replaced with rings in battle because in all of the versions I've had on Gamecube I've NEVER seen a ring in any of these locations

[@kajuanlockett8980]

+Chikaku Kasai Yeah I just saw this. You're completely wrong. I've done it MYSELF that he appears in SA2B cutscenes. Do your research.

[@monsterman5117]

The joke when he said "Take away Ross" killed me!😁😁😁

[@thediamondarcher2880]

8:11 Tails was watching about a TOP SECRET MILITARY BASE on SATELLITE TV. HOW IS THAT IN ANY WAY SWCRET IF YOU ARE JUST GOING TO BROADCAST IT THROUGHOUT TV'S?

[@fusionme00]

Another thing that I should mention when Gerald robotnik says all those things about destroying the earth and revenge, did the people that killed him give a crap? Did no one say "what he said kind of freaked me maybe we should destroy the ARK just to be sure it doesn't actually destroy us." And one more thing, how in the f*ck does the bio lizard even live that long without food? What do ultimate life forms not eat or something? Seriously wtf.

[@AyseeMD]

GUN is stupid

[@VimyGlide]

Apparently everyone in the Sonic universe is a Crystal Gem. *ding*

[@AyseeMD]

BecauseICan( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)​ This comment makes no fucking sense.DING

[@VimyGlide]

Ghostx2xelite This person does not know what I am referencing. I am okay with that. No sin.

[@fusionme00]

Let's add a sin for every time the characters mouth don't move when they talk

[@Zylo82]

24:15 the only time you will ever see Shadow shed a tear.

[@amarijourdan2325]

No one even knew chaos control existed ( maybe except Eggman) but Sonic could do it by seeing Shadow do it a few times.

[@KenAgaro]

10:55 Uh correction. Rouge saying, "5 minutes should be plenty." Meaning that she thinks that it will take her five mins to find the emeralds and get out. Not, "Set the bomb for 5 mins."

[@accelriderx2931]

Still, why 5 minutes? If anything, she could spend 10 minutes. Or better yet, all 15. If anything, Shadow got her out of there right before the explosion anyway.

[@lightwright01]

*The Moon blows up* My thoughts - tidal waves be damned, apparently.

[@Red_Nine5]

6 years later and I think I'm the only one that noticed the duplicate sentences that characters say AND missing words in sentences.

[@jomandterry5463]

6:21 hahahahahahahahahaa you fool I have 70 alternate accounts

[@willropa4226]

25:10 I just thought of this, but I think I remember it being said somewhere that Prof. Gerald based his ultimate lifeforms, Biolizard and Shadow, off of a mural he saw at the ancient Echidna tribe ruins. The mural was a prophecy that depicted Super Sonic fighting and defeating Perfect Chaos. If Shadow is made in Super Sonic's image, then it stands to reason that Biolizard was made in Perfect Chaos's image. You can kinda see the resemblance when you think of it this way.

[@miadouga3758]

"Come and get some,Eggman!!" ~Sonic the Hedgehog Is that Eggman or "Rayman"?! XDDDD

[@VenusFeuerFalle]

what I loved the most About the rocket in the base of Eggman is, he actually installed a Giant Rocket, prepared to go outer space, just when sonic and Friends are on board, with a one-way ticket basicly, while Eggman and co just use a teleporter as often as they want.

[@amytheprettyweirdfangirl3786]

That Shadow voice is SPOT ON!!!!!!!

[@dovesoap6315]

+Amy Nadal OMG AGAIN XD

[@amytheprettyweirdfangirl3786]

Eastway IKNOWRIGHT?! XD

[@JuanAguilar-sl9ow]

I am not a shadow fan but can agree the shadow voice in this game is one of the best in the franchise

[@amytheprettyweirdfangirl3786]

Juan Aguilar HOW are you not a fan of SHADOW? I'm gonna spam you... nah, jk, jk ;u; XD

[@JuanAguilar-sl9ow]

Amy the SU & GF & Sonic Lover :3 personally i like sonic better than shadow if you were wondering but yeah your point still stands on the voice for SA2 shadow

[@IsaiahMeach]

20:22 Pauline doesn't belong here and is she cheating? +2 dings

[@sacramentum8802]

Anybody realize that in his sonic 06 video he was talking about how it is possible to confuse sonic and shadow under the same lighting and how Amy confusing silver for sonic doesn't have an excuse? No, just me?

[@someanimedweebiamsure7071]

Everyone talks about minor things in the game, but no one is talking about how chari didn’t use actual gameplay.

[@sabastianlaney2788]

Even though Eggman's bombs were set to 15 minutes, Rouge can find the Chaos Emeralds in 5 minutes 'cause she is the best treasure hunter. Plus, she works for G.U.N., so she would obviously know where the Chaos Emeralds are, okay?!

[@ContextEffects]

8:22 Can you blame him? She's adorable!

[@GamingKingdom91]

Another fun fact.. Shadow WAS supposed to look like sonic (albeit different eye and fur color) ..he was orginally a hedgehog named Terios (terios meaning 'reflection of') But nope,sega decided to turn Terios into shadow for the final game :T