Chatting With Nutts - Episode #11 THE SEQUEL ft Allen from The Library of Allenxandria

Chatting With Nutts - Episode #11 THE SEQUEL ft Allen from The Library of Allenxandria
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Welcome to the 11th episode of Chatting with Nutts! My guest this episode of Chatting With Nutts is one of the most entertaining content creators in the booktube community, Allen from @The Library of Allenxandria ! BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND!!! Rants incoming. I hope you enjoy this conversation on Chatting with Nutts as we talk about the current topics in fantasy as well as what we are reading and have already read that blew our minds.
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[@thefantasynuttwork]

Thank you all!

[@cynthiaholmes5124]

Just started on blood meridian and she who became the sun both are really good so far and I also finished the trouble with peace yesterday 👍🌟😇💖

[@marithus2631]

5​@@cynthiaholmes5124❤nm.❤j❤j❤❤ is muiiuuj

[@endymionsrage]

I am on my quest to watch all of the "Chatting with Nutts" Episodes. 13 / 64 Progress. Already looking forward to that 4h 34min Episode 19. A record that stood the test of time so far. I listen to this while working and it makes the time just fly. Keep up keeping up!!

[@elianalicheva]

Hands down one of the best 3 hours podcasts I've listen. Such meaningful and deep conversations, glad to listen you guys! ❤️

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Thank you!!

[@s13gaming72]

I'm here from episode 66 to see what made you a worldwide sensation, especially in Korea 😂

[@thefantasynuttwork]

That makes me happy haha

[@ves138]

These are some of the BEST content on booktube, seriously jimmy, going through these all at once was amazing. Cant wait for the next one

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Thanks Ves, its my favorite content to make tbh. I had to delay this week's episode to next week, I'm pumped for it!

[@BookishChas]

Such a great chat! I absolutely love Allen. And you too of course Jimmy. I’m currently reading Foundation right now, and I’m thoroughly enjoying it. I’ll be curious to see how the adaptation is handled. House of the Dragon! I can’t wait, and I need to read Fire & Blood. Allen, Six of Crows is actually really good, so don’t be worried. I’m still recovering from the “Phonebooth Guy” comment, but it’s ok, because I’ll forgive you if you watch the show. Well, you’re forgiven anyway, but ya know…😂😂

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Hahahah glad to hear I didn't offend too hard by dunking on Dr Who 😂 I'm VERY curious how the Foundation adaptation will go

[@AsfandyarSheikh]

I'm glad I'm catching up to these slowly, these are so awesome and fun, and you guys can even make me laugh in the last 60 secconds of a 4 hour stream 🤣 On to Return of the Jedi

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Hahahahah thanks my dude

[@derekleon24]

I watched part of the live stream but had to go to a family event. Allan and the 5 hr live stream us to happen. Do it for the people jimmy. I think I’ve listen to this at least twice while I work already. You guys are gold!!!

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Thank you Derek 😃

[@SkidMarx915]

Another great show guys. You two have some great chemistry. Cant wait for the trilogy.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Thank you 😁

[@EricMcLuen]

And the unabridged director's cut.

[@MagusMarquillin]

@@EricMcLuen You don't get more unabridged then "live" dude.

[@ReadingAde]

Jeez. I’m a former teacher from FL and I feel Allen’s pain (never being able to close gradebook, always having something new to implement, work-life balance). I’m in VA now and it’s the same shit just a little better paycheck.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

I hope it gets better, it's a shame such an important role is treated like that

[@TheLibraryofAllenxandria]

Oof, that sucks VA hasn't improved but hopefully the extra $$ softens the blow. I would love for education policy to be made by educators.

[@auroraxbeamm]

i missed the live cause of work, but im excited to watch this sequel! 😁

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Hope you enjoy 😎

[@JosephReadsBooks]

I took notes for this episode to make sure I didn't spam comments like I did on the last episode with Allen. In regards to you liking Foundation, which I love as well, I highly recommend The Culture series by Iain M Banks. I have read the first two. Consider Phlebas is great but The Player of Games is fantastic. You can jump right into The Player of Games without reading Consider Phlebas(i read Consider Phlebas over a decade ago and couldn't remember much from it when I read The Player of Games. I think you would like it. The look on Allen's face when you said Foundation was inspired by Rome now lives rent free in my head forever. Expanse is great but I dipped out toward the end of the series. I was not having a good time. The Caves of Steel which ties into the Robot series and Foundation series is a fun, short read. Since I'm in the future I know you have finished Dune and Malazan so here is a fun little fact. Steven Erikson wrote Gardens of the Moon in the same style as Dune and he said he did it because he didn't know you weren't supposed to write fantasy like that. I was not optimistic about the Wheel of Time show and i feel validated. I love the cast but the screenwriters/showrunner need new jobs. I knew Wheel of Time was going to be bad when Brandon Sanderson started talking about teaching himself to write screenplays shortly after season 1 started filming. That was a big red flag for me. The Stand is an amazing book. I'm glad both of you like it as well. Did you read the uncut version or the normal version? I enjoyed all the extras in the uncut version but I do understand why other people would prefer the shorter version. This was a great episode. I listened to this instead of the audiobook I'm working on so thanks to both of you I'm further behind 😤. (I have been listening to audiobooks for 16 years now and at this point I feel like I retain more from audiobooks than I do reading the books. I feel like it is a learned skill like reading faster.) Keep up the good work! 😎

[@thefantasynuttwork]

I read the uncut version! Also, I loved Player of Games!

[@JosephReadsBooks]

@@thefantasynuttwork whenever you get around to reading another Culture novel I'm going to have to tag along. It has been a while since I read one.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

@@JosephReadsBooks I see myself reading Use of Weapons relatively soon

[@JosephReadsBooks]

@@thefantasynuttwork perfect. I already own a copy. I'm looking forward to it!

[@fluffypenguins]

Great discussion!

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Thanks Adam!

[@FrederickBoyle-vi7lo]

​Guyana. Beautiful. I'm in Kenya!

[@lewstherinteletubby50]

I see it now...President Allen.

[@sethhale235]

These are so darn good.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

I'm glad you enjoy them 🤠

[@willforlife_]

These are good videos these chats I believe are really needed for ppl, and the world frankly

[@thefantasynuttwork]

That means a lot, thank you 😁

[@willforlife_]

Yaaa Jimmy let's talk when I get all this booktube stuff going

[@thefantasynuttwork]

@@willforlife_ think we can beat the 4.5 hour record?

[@willforlife_]

Hahahahhahaha I actually loled there, and I am gonna say 2.5 hours will be my limit hahah

[@marcweber8509]

One thing I gotta say. I think every book in Acts of Caine is great. But Stover does play around with style and structure and each installment is very different, but they fit together beautifully. The core themes and Hari's character are always respected. I think so much of the controversy stems from preconceived notions of what the next book should be and then Stover throws you a curve ball. But if you take a step back and reset your expectations I think you can see, that every decision he makes fits. Kind of like Steven Erikson does with Malazan but I'm also just a sucker for artistic boldness. As long as it feels true.

[@wormemperor4167]

Great episode! My favourite episodes are with Allen :-D Had to leave the live stream cause it was 4 o'clock in the morning in Europe, watching the rest now^^ I hope we get another sequel :-D

[@thefantasynuttwork]

You're a trooper for hanging in there, thank you 😁

[@wormemperor4167]

@@thefantasynuttwork Love the live discussions so fucking up my sleep schedule now and then is worth it^^

[@thefantasynuttwork]

@@wormemperor4167 that's a big compliment! Sleep is king 👑

[@nihad-m]

I always miss these. There're too early for my time zone (central Africa time) Incase nobody has mentioned it : if like history read Guy Gavriel Kay 😁✌️(I just can't help myself)

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Nihad! I'm glad to see you in the comments, and I have heard GGK is great for history fans like me 😊

[@nihad-m]

I just reached that part of your discussion and yes, Allen is right : The Reichenbach Fall is the best season finale ever!

[@lewstherinteletubby50]

I was homeschooled and mostly taught myself, but dang I wish I had Allen as my teacher

[@thefantasynuttwork]

He's incredible

[@DirePantsDim]

These 4 hours were a blast.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Yes they were!

[@shulgi582]

HOLD UP, ALLEN, YOU'VE READ ACTS OF CAINE??? Yesss, that's like my favorite shit ever.

[@shulgi582]

can't believe someone else has read it wtf, I've been trying to make people read it. But nope, Blade of Tyshalle is absolutely fucking amazing, I completely diagree there.

[@shulgi582]

The final two books are, literally, the best thing I have ever read. They're also extremely dark and STACKED with philosophy. I can understand, however, if the change from Heroes Die to Blade of Tyshalle won't be ok for a lot of people.

[@TheLibraryofAllenxandria]

@@shulgi582 The scene with the manager in Tyshalle is the one I was talking about. Like....what???

[@shulgi582]

@@TheLibraryofAllenxandria Oh yeah, lol, book is very weird! But it has some next level deep dive in all sorts of shit. And the climax... or like, all bijillion of them, are just... chef's kiss.

[@shulgi582]

@@TheLibraryofAllenxandria Oh wait, I just reached the time stamp... Yeah, I get it now. That scene is fucking disgusting.

[@evanbode4660]

Another great show! Gonna go buy dark souls now after watching! I’ve been playing the Mass Effect games for the first time and have been having a really fun time with those and now I’m really interested in dark souls

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Prepare to die a lot! But seriously, if you can stick with it and get the mechanics down, it's one of the most rewarding games I've ever played

[@thatsci-firogue]

I just finished Morning Star and honestly the deus ex machina was nowhere near as bad as I was expecting. In my defence I've grown to expect it from Brown. So I had fun with it. Probably my favourite of the trilogy tbh. I hope to read the sequel trilogy after I've finished Richard Morgan's Kovacs series.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

The more I've sat with the trilogy the less it's bothered me. I actually am highly favorable for red rising as a whole

[@thatsci-firogue]

@@thefantasynuttwork also was it just me or did the 3rd act give strong Return of the Jedi vibes?

[@thefantasynuttwork]

@@thatsci-firogue I could see that a bit yeah!

[@GemReadsALot]

Brilliant as usual, can’t wait to watch the other two episodes with Allen

[@thefantasynuttwork]

He's the best 😊

[@thatsci-firogue]

Yeah I've no interest in reading Kristoff either, thanks to Merphy Napier's glorious rant. I agree with the chat, you both should read Iain M Banks' The Culture, some of the best Sci-fi ever. Its my favourite Sci-Fi book series. Doctor Who is my favourite show of all-time, I don't think you would like it, but Smith was excellent. His first series is one of the best series of Doctor Who of all-time, of both classic and modern eras. Definitely one of my favourite Doctors. I initially liked GotM more but the more I read and thought about it I prefer Deadhouse Gates. You will love Memories of Ice. Halfway through Midnight Tides right now and Malazan is already a Top 10 favourite fantasy series for me. Tho I seem to be in the minority opinion that has Book 4 House of Chains as a favourite. Fun Fact: John Lithgow was Tim Burton's original choice for The Joker but Lithgow declined.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Wow!! That's a great piece of Joker trivia. I never knew that

[@thatsci-firogue]

@@thefantasynuttwork I imagine he would've been terrifying.

[@milom5030]

Yaaay so happy Allen came back! Wouldn't be mad if he became a co-host😄 Great episode, as always

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Thank you 😊

[@thatsci-firogue]

I'm usually more of a Sci-fi fan than a Fantasy fan, yet I read mostly Fantasy. That's gonna change within the next few months though, hopefully.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Always fun to mix it up!

[@thatsci-firogue]

@@thefantasynuttwork I don't read as much Sci-fi, Horror or Historical Fiction as much as I'd like, so cutting down on Fantasy was a no-brainer for me.

[@nerdynicky91]

I am at the point where you are talking about the coworker that collects action figures and how people shit on other people for their hobbies. My mother in law absolutely loathes Christmas. I am a total Buddy the Elf kind of Christmas person. She constantly shits on me for it. I just ignore her because life is too short to care.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Screw’em!

[@derrisreaditbefore]

watching the first half, sorry I wasn't able to make it in time - I get so much from spending time with you all

[@thefantasynuttwork]

I do too! Thanks for being here 😊

[@ves138]

Also for me Warcraft was EASIYL the best video game adaptation if we dont count Castlevania (which is phenomenal yall should watch it if you like dark fantasy with horror elements!). Warcaft looked spectacular and it was OK so i was fine with it, the rest i straight up hated.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

I need to watch Castlevania

[@ves138]

@@thefantasynuttwork you do! Its sso fun. One of the besz pilots in anime for me.

[@thirdspacemaker9141]

It would be awesome if you could add an actual call-in feature.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Hahaha that would be phenomenal

[@AverageJoesLibrary]

I may or may not know what you’re talking about with Morning Star. I’m gonna have to watch the full spoiler talk. That part didn’t bother me much but something else in that same moment did. But I do typically hate unreliable narrators/author purposely leaves things out.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

I like unreliable narrators but this wasn't even that, it just straight up lying to the reader haha I will definitely have a spoiler section of my review for it 🤘

[@AverageJoesLibrary]

@@thefantasynuttwork read The Murder Of Roger Ackroyd and check back with me 😂. Ending of very decisive. But that’s murder mystery.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

@@AverageJoesLibrary I can get behind that!

[@trill_nathan]

Berserk is about as close as you can get to the Soulsborne games, and is even a heavy source of inspiration for them. But that's a manga not a book

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Good to know, thank you!

[@olivertanner8531]

I died a bit inside when Allen said that book 2 of Heroes Die is bad. I gave it 5 stars because it blew my mind just how good and different it is.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

There's hope then! I think I'll give it a go since you said that, of course I gotta read book one still 😅

[@olivertanner8531]

@@thefantasynuttwork Here's the thing. As much as i love the book, i totally get why Allen DNF'd it. It takes a fast paced and action packed book, doubles it in size, slows it down, strips out some of the sense of adventure and injects a metric duckton of metaphysical and philosophical themes. Plus i would go so far as to say that the overall mood is even more bleak and oppressing than Prince of Nothing. Oh, and like Allen said, there are some truly despicable and disgusting scenes in it (not just because they are graphic, but also because of the context). To sum it up, it is a hard sell and i totally understand people who just want to read book one and be done with the series.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

@@olivertanner8531 the fact it's that polarizing makes me wanna try it

[@readingreignbro5680]

@@thefantasynuttwork POV is 1st person present I believe, your fave!

[@thefantasynuttwork]

@@readingreignbro5680 ugh

[@saly4762]

I’m ashamed to admit that I’m watching this for the 2nd time 😬

[@thefantasynuttwork]

This brings me joy lol

[@tomsativa]

Allen lied at 1:31:00 ish lol. There are big dumb characters in the Malazan series, just wait. I just finished the series last month

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Hahah oops!

[@EricMcLuen]

Dune was actually written as a counter to Foundation. I did not care for Foundation nearly as much, maybecause I read it much later. For me, Asimov's spent a lot of time talking about the science and seemed dated. Dune does not suffer from this nearly as much as Herbert basically got rid of technology. Had to laugh at the swearing comment. My language will have to clean up a lot when we go back in the office as I am swearing like a freshman and often loudly.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

I loved Foundation but half way through Dune now and can say confidently I like Dune more now. I also like sweating, a lot

[@darmokandjalad7786]

The lack of pure friendships in WoT is one of my least favourite aspects.

[@thefantasynuttwork]

Same here

[@darmokandjalad7786]

@@thefantasynuttwork Yeah, I know it’s true to life that, in times of crisis, often people begin to mistrust and even turn on eachother, and especially with Jordan’s war background I can see why he tries to reflect these darker realities in the books. But in fantasy, having the groups of friends who would just die for eachother without question really attaches me to them and the story overall.

[@demidrek-heyward]

red rising ages so poorly in my memory that thing with the perspective in book 3 is enough for me to burn the books

[@demidrek-heyward]

unlike episodes of chatting w/ Nutss feat Allen which age well and have rewatch potential. Get to rewitness Allens greatest rants

[@thefantasynuttwork]

@@demidrek-heyward hahahaha

[@currangill430]

I loved Last of Us but I despised Last of Us 2.

[@aysseralwan]

1:56:00 Nynaeve sucks ass for 11 of the 14 books. She's just barely tolerable in the last 3 and somehow a lot of people think she has a great character arc cuz she goes from the most insuffersvle person I've ever read about to someone you can breathe the same air with... barely. I don't get it

[@thefantasynuttwork]

😂😂😂

[@aysseralwan]

2:42:00 I enjoy it way more when religion in fantasy is never confirmed to be true or not and when there are different religions like in the real world. It's for somehow always a negative for me when a book or series have the god or gods actively and directly doing sth in the story. Idk it rubs me the wrong way

[@toinenosoite3173]

No battle in the history of the world with more than a million combatants? Well, Allen really should take it easier and learn more about history, as there have been several, take e.g. Kursk with the Soviet Union at one point having about 2.5 million, and Germany around a million. These troops were, of course, not collected in a single place, and i take it that Allen means that. Also, I find it "interesting" that Allen criticizes e.g. 300 for not being historically accurate (which it absolutely isn't), and at the same time feeds his school kids straight up lies just to make things more interesting and the kids interested in history. That certainly is a good goal in itself, but if I played fast and loose with historical facts, I would be more conservative in my criticism of others.