Cheap eBay Knock Off Carburetor Review

The cheap chinese knock off carburetor is back and the price has dropped so low that people are buying this epic hunks of garbage. I'll show you why NOT to buy this awful thing and why you should spend your money to get the Edelbrock instead. Seriously. This knock off is awful.
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[@wintonhudelson2252]

Made from 100% pure, unadulterated Chineseium.

[@precisionlawncare8296]

I ended up buying one a few months back due to my old edelbrock carb screws being stripped from numerous rebuilds and over tightening which is totally my fault. But this video is the total opposite of my experience. Perhaps I lucked up mine has been working fantastic since installing and my several attempts at tuning it. I’m sure time will tell if it’s crap or not but for now I’m a happy camper.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

The poor quality is the least of the problem with this, and other crap stolen by china and knocked off. It’s the fact that folks continue to support it just to save a dollar.

[@patgraeme775]

@Muscle Car Solutions recorded and posted by phones and computers made by Chinese slaves, and powered by cobalt dug up by Africa slaves lol get off the cross we need the wood

[@siliconvalleyengineer5875]

The chinese automotive parts manufaturerers make good carburators, almost all of Summits products are made in China. Sure there are higher quality performance carburators hence their price. The guy doing the carb review is a wannabe expert, its mostly hate speech.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

@siliconvalleyengineer5875 calling a thief a thief isn’t hate speech. You’re comparing two entirely different designs. One that summit purchased from a Chinese vendor and not a blatant knock off of a well known brand.

[@gunkaroobobinzki4239]

I’ve bought the 2 barrel carter clone. Works great . Of coarse the quality will be less but it runs good ! Last a long time ? Probably won’t . But if you can’t afford you can’t afford

[@rileysrebuilds435]

Thank you so much for the shout out!!! That was really nice. We learned a lot from your videos (and still do)!!! and YES those fakes are junk. we notify eBay every time we run across one and let them know they are frauds. Not sure if it does anything, but it makes us feel better. Edelbrock is a great made in the USA company and I hate to see jerks like these guys in KY use the Edelbrock name to sell junk.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Always! And for those who don’t know Riley’s Rebuilds, link to her channel is in the description. Go check out her channel and subscribe!

[@fathergratwick]

These carbs are actually discontinued italian weber designs from the 50's that edelbrock bought the rights to and makes clones of so... it really depends on how far back you want to go with all the copys being made and sold now.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

@fathergratwick you’re a little confused on the details. What makes. It confusing is the several manufacturers who made that product at those facilities in NC. Yes Weber owned it for a time. So did Magnetti marelli. Now Edelbrock does. All three had their names in the tooling but that doesn’t mean any of them actually created it. They were just the owners at the time. Like Edelbrock is today. But comparing that to a blatant knock off is ridiculous.

[@fathergratwick]

@@MuscleCarSolutions the last edelbrock I owned only had weber molded into the body as far as I rememeber the edelbrock marking consisted of a sticker. it was my understanding that weber originally designed this like 70 years ago. To be fair there are a lot of car parts now sold by many makers that are copied designs once the patents expire. Some are crap and some arent but they are copies of someone else's design none the less. Like my scat crank which looks a lot like a GM crank or my aftermarket waterpump. And I think edelbrock got started with making copies of gms performance intake manifolds afterall.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

@fathergratwick that’s because Weber owned the production facility and as they went through tooling, their logo was embossed in it. Same with Magnetti when they owned it. Same with Edelbrock who now owns it. No, none of those manufactures designed that carburetor. Edelbrock has gone through several internal redesigns to include the annular upgrades to the AVS while the previous two just manufacturers from the original design.

[@steveproctor1748]

I bought one and it was perfect. Started right up, and only adjusted the idle a little bit. And I totally agree that 10% ethanol is turning carburetors into junk.

[@jesseduke694]

Very good to know. Thank you. As a car guy I love to buy new parts & try out different stuff on my trucks. But as a guy that dousnt really have alot of money after paying bills its hard to buy some parts. Especially good parts. Somtimes I have to wait along time & save small amounts to get parts I somtimes need witch means my hotrod somtimes has to sit while I earn the money. So when I get a new part or just get it running somtimes it's exciting. But if I have a set back, a bad part, it's a huge let down. Carburetors are expensive! Some are dang near a thousand dollers!! So I have to settle for one that works fine even if it's not what I really want. But the one thing worse than not having enuf to get what you really want is spending what you do have just to get going & finding out what you spent your money on is just junk & you can't even use it at all! So you now still have a hotrod you can't enjoy but now you have no money to put towards the part you need.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

I think most of us are on some sort of budget. I’d like to not be, but hey sometimes the wait and the effort to earn that next part makes the pride in the work even better! Unfortunately the cheap Chinese knock off parts are just going to continue and some will be successful while others will fail. But as long as there’s a buyer, they’ll keep making them. Sad.

[@kaedyncopper12]

Theirs a ton of this knock off crap on EBay, not only car parts ,motorcycle, Atv parts, home goods. Its crazy. But people are buying it and then wonder why their problem isn't fixed. Great Video

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Or blame the brand that got knocked off. Talked to several manufacturers that have had product knocked off and customers who bought that trash will call the actual brand asking for help and then get mad when they get sent away.

[@DieselArcher]

I’m a long time diesel owner, I just learned more about carbs from this video than I have in 50 years of life. Great video!!

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Well I’m glad you found it useful!

[@johnweaver8470]

You definitely get what you pay for, looking forward to your video on the new Edelbrock race carb I see one in the future for my big block 68 Camaro keep the videos coming

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

I’m editing that video now! I usually post them on Sunday’s but I can tell you right now I’m not going to make it that long. 😂 Keep an eye out, it’s probably going to be during the week sometime. Depends on how quickly I can get it edited and uploaded!

[@haroldbottom3474]

I brought this Carb about two years ago and wouldn't trade it for anything! I love it and would recommend it to anyone looking for a descent durable carburetor.

[@jimthomas7251]

I actually laughed at Edelbrock when this type carburetor came out , I have an original AFB 750cfm , I also have a 930cfm Predator and Holley carbs that are over 20 years old

[@georgekalafatis7286]

I can't believe you guys it's a cheap carburetor if you can make those small repairs it'll be a good one

[@herbnalis3723]

Replace gaskets, locktight screws , new floats & accelerator pump, should be good. One way to find out.

[@patgraeme775]

Trying this on Monday

[@randyemmons2974]

solder the float , some stiffer springs , and roll with it ! OR OR Rebuild your origional Carb! Either way get it together and get some Damb Burnoff video's Rolling. Cackling Hens Cackle The real Motorheads are Smoking the Tires . Smokem if Ya Gottem !?!?

[@jasond5405]

You can judge a persons age if you call those a Carter style carburetor or a Edelbrock style carburetor.

[@Jerryobscurethoughts]

Carter afb

[@v8packard]

It is over priced 😂 Goes well with knock off HEI distributors

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

I couldn’t agree more! 👍

[@BPattB]

When I asked if you were going to do a video on the "new Edelbrock" I was referring to the VRS 4150 and you responded "I'm getting one next week" imagine my surprise when I saw this LOL. Awesome video as usual.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

It’s coming. Finishing the editing now. I usually drop videos on Sunday’s but I’m thinking of sooner. We’ll see how the editing goes. Almost there!

[@BPattB]

@@MuscleCarSolutions nice

[@michellatour150]

If any of those screws have a 'dimple' next to the cross they are not Phillips heads but rather 'J.I.S.' (Japanese Industrial Standard) and require the appropriate driver, reason why a Phillips screwdriver or drive bit easily slips/strips them out as the angle/depth of the cross is slightly different.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Even a bigger failure if that’s what they are (they aren’t). I’m assuming the Chinese and or whoever might have commissioned this from a factory there would know the general consumer in the US doesn’t have that tool. Not unless they’re a classic power sports enthusiast that MIGHT have a set.

[@edbo10]

tooling for phillips drivers has gotten good enough that late model ones, even the cheapo ones, will deal with JIS screws without issue

[@needmoreboost6369]

A customer of mine fitted one of these himself with nothing but problems and I’ll start with the float and needle being junk and the float leaking and filled with fuel lol,he brought the old Holley back in pieces in a bucket half filled with rusty water and after a freshen up but still with significant shaft wear and corrosion damage it by far outperforms the new chinesium and I’ve suggested for the cost of fuel it’s worth getting genuine only

[@jakelords24]

Way better idea to get a used carb and put a kit in it. I've gotten several for under a $100 and a $40 kit and was golden

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Even I’m used, old carburetors. If you call Edelbrock needing a missing service part, they’re extremely helpful in just mailing you what you need at no charge. You don’t get that with the knock off junk.

[@captjim007]

Bought one of the cheap Chinese Holley 600 vac secondary carbs and it works great No problems at all. Quality seems good. Maybe just lucky but it's working good.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Maybe more people will buy them and put Holley out of business. At least take away their ability to research and develop new stuff.

[@captjim007]

@@MuscleCarSolutions The economic problem is the fault of the American politicians for NOT putting a high enough tariffs on the goods coming into America from foreign countries. The American politicians have sold out the American people to enrich themselves and thier masters. Sad but true. The signs are everywhere.

[@bobbyz1964]

Tried a Chinese BBD on a 318, after getting the float set right, (Chinese float, floats lower than US float it seems) it worked with no problems for about a year. On 10% ethanol actually. Ended up going to four barrel, a used Carter AFB. Never really trusted that Chinese carb but like I said after the out of the box flooding was fixed it worked ok.

[@haroldbottom3474]

I haven't had any issues with the one I got.

[@user-mp8er1ds9x]

Same here on that $80 BBD two barrel.

[@wheelstandr]

You just saved a lot of guys from the headache. Thank you!

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

I hope so, but the market is getting flooded with them.

[@HH-sr4hq]

Thanks man. You've likely saved several cheapskates like me several dollars. There were engine killer screws ALL OVER that thing!

[@craighansen7594]

If you know what you are doing you could buy a Edelbrock gasket set, re- stake all the screws, resolder the float, straighten the booster legs(equalize the vacuum signal to the corresponding jet, turn a new idle mixture screw on your lathe, replace all the soft crappy screws, replace the metering piston springs............... What a deal!!! Such a bargain!!! If you are trying to stay on a low buck plan, go to a swap meet and buy a used Carter AFB or Edelbrock.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

I suspect this is not the case. We’ll eventually find out when I mill it down and measure the channel volume. I think that coupled with the garbage parts inside created the inconsistent, erratic operation. I guess what concerns me more is when folks cheer on products that were 100% stolen and knocked off by the Chinese all in the name of saving a few bucks. American made means nothing to those people.

[@keithroute8906]

I have one very old Edelbrock carb, runs excellent since the day it went on twenty some years ago. Retuned it once about eleven years ago when we moved from elevation in Colorado. It came off a fresh wreck when I got it. I would definitely rebuild it before buying a knock off if it ever clogs up. The quadrajet knock offs are supposed to be better, I am going to try one of those until I have time to rebuild my real one. I have too much work to do in my shop to be messing with it right now when I can get a quick cheap temporary fix, if the knockoff is a good one. My quadrajet worked perfectly for a good twenty some years but clogged up over the winter and it just won’t clean out or properly tune. It needs a complete tear down. The old carbs were really designed and well made. Alcohol is the devil on them but most of the rebuild kits claim they are alcohol compatible so hopefully they will out last an alcohol proof knock off by a decade or so after a rebuild. Many working class hot rodders buy what they can afford. The Chinese are making them cheap. Cut government regulations and taxes on our workers and our carb manufacturers and we could be making them cheaper here but I think we all know that will never happen. Most old car replacement parts are made in China. For many parts there are no US options, that is why we hoard certain old parts and NOS parts if or when we find them.

[@TheCamaroking24]

I own 2 edelbrock carbs. 1 is a 600 and other is a 750 and they both bleed fuel after shutting car off and smells like gas pretty strong. Carbs aren't old enough to be needing kits already

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Check out my videos on heat soak and fuel pressure. One of both of those is likely part of the problem.

[@PoleBarnGarage]

Ok... But how did it run? I'm so tempted to try one and toss it on out of the box like most people would, just for fun

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Exactly how I described it in the video. Erratic.

[@worldssickestmedia2713]

I own an engine shop that does service, maintenance and repair mainly on complex small engines mainly for businesses who own lots of equipment. Landscaping, Hardscape, construction, logging, mobil services and mechanics shops etc. I also do motocross bikes and jet skis. Just stating my credentials before I say this. My experience with chinese carbs has been it's a total crapshoot as to if they will work. And it's about a 50 50 chance they won't work at all if not work poorly. And usually when they won't work you can tell just by quickly inspecting them. Yes they are so off that you can see it with the naked eye. Just like this one.The machining is horrible. Jets will be in crooked. You'll see casting flaws internally. The flaps will be in crooked and not open or close all the way. Accelerator pump cover will be off to where it will never seel. All kindz of sh!t. But there are a couple of chinese replicas that do have a brand name that they will advertise and they do work. But they are also more expensive than the no name ones. Like just for example say if a factory stock tractor carb new costs $500. And you can buy a cheap no mame knockoff with hundreds to choose from for about $75. There will be maybe 3 or 4 of them to choose from that have a name brand you've never heard of and they will be in the $200 range. And they will usually have a satin finsh with only the machined part being shiny. That's the one that will probably be acceptable. Them making the carb shiny is part of the trick. The decent ones are never shiny like that. Like a faux nickel plating or polish like this carb you have. I've had to learn this by trial and error because some things they don't make the carb you need anymore. So you're stuck with a chinese replica. Very few. But some of them actually are decent. Of course that is reflective in the price. But 98% of them are garbage. They're horrible. And as far as a readily available automotive carburetor. I'd never even consider them. They suck. Oh and that carburetor you have. If you paid more than $85-$120 for it then you are most likely a 2nd or 3rd buyer and somebody before you bought it marked it up. You can buy a whole box of them like 25-30 of them for $40-$60 a piece. And they are so cheap it's worth the crapshoot in the long run for some shops with no morals. So cheap if you buy 40 of them and 18 of them work you still come out on top. I don't do that shiz. I'm not crooked and I don't have the time. Chinese carbs are horrible. And that oily sh!t all over it. That's cosmoline. Same sh!t thet put on gun barrels. That keeps the carb shiny until you get it. In a month it won't look like that. Itl look like garbage.

[@harnettsgarage]

I saw these things on Ebay this week and thought....is that a Chinese knock off? I was looking at the ad thinking, something looks off about that.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

They were pretty careful how they used the Edelbrock name, but it’s 100% a really bad knock off.

[@commanderwhite12]

Few years back i got one for my 77 Merc a cheap (98 dollar) motorcraft/autolite 2bbl clone immediately worked out of the box with next to no tuning. Car ran great it even sat about a year or so and stilp worked. Id say its hit and miss on them. Depending WHO is selling them on ebay you might get one that will outlast you or not even a year. Mine had a warranty and everything. That was before I suped it up and swapped engine. Now its got a av2 edelbrock and more. Way i see it long as it runs and isnt all loose fragile junk and gets you rolling for now thats a plus in my book. Especially when it lers you save up for more expensive things

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

One thing this channel has taught me is the way folks are comfortable justify this type of activity. It’s honestly something I never expected.

[@commanderwhite12]

@@MuscleCarSolutions I'd say just because it's a knock off don't mean it's necessarily bad though certain factors pertain to that. There is a too good to be true point and I knew the risk of it probably being junk. I was pleasantly surprised it needed some work like scavenging parts from my bad carb for it to make it proper for my car. I'd rather use vintage oldschool parts whenever I can find them cause I like to salvage and rebuild things when I can. Like my FMX trans for my Merc did it by myself with a old tech book an few basic hand tools.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

@commanderwhite12 that’s where I’ll always be amazed I guess. The happiness in purchasing a product that was literally copied and then marketed as the same. The number of people who support or eager to buy from thieves is what I’ll never understand.

[@billschroeder9260]

I'll tell you ...Hebron KY. Home of a good portion of Chinese warehouses. Othor Ebay sellers come out of there. However never had a problem with 2 stroke carbs from china

[@adamturner8634]

If I wanted a cheap carb off ebay I'd just buy a used one and rebuild it

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Certainly the better choice.

[@codemaster3696]

I believe that we all should purchase American made whenever possible however I don't agree that this carburetor is junk a lot of time and effort still went into producing it and as with most Chinese products with a few modifications it could do the job

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

So you’ve tried to tune one? You’ve seen AFRs jump all over the place because whatever jacked up way they made the boosters didn’t allow for enough airflow into the main metering circuit? So you’re comfortable buying chinese knock off garbage. You can certainly do so. Best of luck getting it to function. Let me know how much time you invest before you huck it into the scrap bin.

[@hananderson4940]

You make zero sense.

[@jamesruscio6536]

Thank you for the great video and warning. I would rate that carb as a C for crap. And those who sell them I give a grade of J for Judas.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Pretty sure it’s one Chinese seller with quite a few accounts. Or 20 people in Walton KY just magically all have access to that crappy thing. lol

[@eligorby8520]

Dude in the video sounds like an Edlebrock salesman.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Or…someone that hates thieves.

[@RowdyCStuff]

Great video! The biggest selling knockoff carbs are the quadrajets. Any chance you can do a video on that one. The divorce choke versions are very cheap and seem to work just as well as the originals. No one has compared the two like you did this carb and I'm sure it will be enlightening. Maybe they are made poorly inside and eventually fail. Thanks for the information.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

As soon as I get my hands on one I will. I don’t buy them. I won’t support those thieves. These knocks offs I was given by Edelbrock’s warranty department from people who tried to return them as an Edelbrock carb for exchange or credit. Just as disgusting as the theft was.

[@kyomotion]

Thanks for covering this!

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

It made me a little sick working on that thing. 😂 I’d feel bad for someone who bought one based on the price. Awful!

[@tomreyn3610]

Question if the linkages are same gaige as Edelbrock. I know all the screws probably are, built to metric specs?

[@steveproctor1748]

Ha! I never buy new carburetor's anymore. And 10% ethanol is turning most of them into junk anyway. I've had to thoroughly clean and rebuild two Edelbrocks ,a Holley,and a Carter AFB because of 10% ethanol. And that was probably what that sticky film was that you felt. Because It was on everyone that I rebuilt. Most of my customers run regular gasoline now and stay away from ethanol. It will ruin carburetor's.

[@danielworden4695]

I got one 2280 for 100.00 bucks and still rebuilt my holly .just saying it's hard not to jump on a knock off because they are cheap.but if it too cheap to be true it probably is.thanls for the unbiased review .

[@flatheadronsgarage7345]

Holy Crap …… is it a conspiracy to kill older engines?? This hot rodder hordes OE parts. Thanks for sharing this honest video tear down with us. Cheers 🍻👍👍👍 subbed

[@thomasward4505]

It's obvious that you're biased against Chinese stuff which I don't like it either but you didn't say the casting was bad or you know major flaws in the thing. I can change the Step Up Springs and go through and lock tight the hardware so it doesn't come loose. And most people know Edelbrock carburetors are mainly for stock type engines with stock cams or slightly above stock. I don't know the current pricing on either of these so hard for me to make a decision but if they are one quarter the price of an Edelbrock and then maybe you can buy one and fix it. But if they're only 2/3 of the price of an Edelbrock then why bother? Anyway if you have a seriously built engine you're going to put a holly on it anyway or I have a brawler carburetor which works very well for about 2/3 the price of a genuine Holly

[@farcere]

Especially when any stuff you buy in store is made in the same factory.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Not sure I’d say an Edelbrock is for slightly more than stock. Maybe a 500 hp and under might be a fair range. The Chinese stuff is garbage. That’s not biased, that’s pretty widely known. You can be proud of it if you wish, but if trying to tune the knock off, I can tell you it still wasn’t happy even with quality parts. I’m guessing it’s limiting factors are internal. Which I’ll confirm one day when I have time to mill it down and compare it to the Edelbrock 600 I milled down last year. I suspect that’s the issue. Doesn’t matter how much lipstick you try to put on that pig.

[@VinoRatRodbuilds]

I'm actually laughing at this video at every time you recognize something that's inefficient on that carburetor, because you know what you're looking for. Awesome info and video. 👍

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Sticks out like a sore thumb! Sooooo awful! Thanks my friend! 😂

[@v8packard]

@@MuscleCarSolutions Thank you for the video. I build engines for a living. Too many people buy the cheapest knock off crap and kid themselves into thinking they are getting the same thing for a lower price. It's terrible.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

@@v8packard it’s all a silly game we’ll continue to play. The knock off stuff isn’t going away. Might have slowed down a little during the last couple years, but it’s never going to go away. And people will just continue to complain and use it at their own expense and the expense of the person or brand they stole it from.

[@v8packard]

@@MuscleCarSolutions I bet you anything people will buy these, and out of frustration swear off carburetors while spending several thousand dollars installing EFI systems they think they won't have to adjust.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

@@v8packard probably very true.

[@markmacdougall7206]

Wow! I saw the price on eBay and thought it might be too good to be true. Now I know!

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Buyer beware! It’s like playing Russian roulette with all the chambers loaded. The only one who wins are the thieves that knocked it off.

[@Barredeux]

I got a Rochester knock - off from ebay for my boat and it's ran great since installing this spring! I always buy from the same company and when I had an issue with one of their parts, a control arm, they just sent me an entirely new one at no cost and didn't even ask for the defective one back. The parts may be from China, but only buy from sellers in the US with 100% positive feedback.

[@georgekalafatis7286]

At first I thought you was just making small stuff out of the screws but good grief that thing is really terrible

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

And people are buying that crap.

[@jpl57210]

The air horn linkage has been done like this for years.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

On the knock offs, yes. And it’s painfully dumb.

[@kayakero1969]

I bought one to replace my CVK in Klr 650 and works perfectly l can use some parts as float springs screws from CVK.If we have to buy these knock off is because over priced "good brands"kills pockets with it's issues.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

I can’t find any pride in a product stolen and knocked off and harming an American company. But some folks are happy to sell their soul to that devil.

[@gvi341984]

These work well vastly cheaper just check out all the screws are in the correct position and that's it.

[@theguy9234]

The main question is.. will edelbrock rebuild parts fit on this Chinese carb? Replace the springs and other pieces that are junk.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

@@theguy9234 some possibly. All? Not even close. And calibrating will be fun if you don’t even know what CFM this hot pile of garbage is!

[@antilaw9911]

Had same experience with edelbrock and carter AFB. Junk carbs!! Rather spend $200 on a carburetor and not be happy than spenging $500 and not be happy.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

That’s because you just don’t know what you’re doing. Nothing wrong with that. I have 70+ videos on Edelbrock carburetors to help you!

[@anthonyking4387]

Thanks so much! Wander what age kids they have building these?

[@kiwianthony3878]

Show us what’s wrong with it after it doesn’t work. Not before u even use it.

[@AMCguy]

This and holleys shot build quality have turned me off from buying new.

[@NobilityandLoyalty]

Know I know why we must have flame arresting equipment at sea. Well done.

[@gillespriod5509]

Still good to modify and scavenge for parts, but for that price better getting a couple of used good ones🤣

[@mikeanderson7206]

Great video. Could these carburetors be ok with some name brand parts installed in it? Seems to be about the same quality as Chinese knock of honda motorcycle carbs.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

No.

[@davidbooie62]

Do you work at Edelbrock?

[@CDeuce152]

No apologies. I'm here to learn to get a heads up.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

It always surprises me how many are totally fine with buying a knock off. I guess I’m too old.

[@gkauto1959]

I bought a similar one for a street application on their 500 cfm knockoff AFB; it ran only ok off idle but when I opened the throttle it bogged down several times, came home to remove and it was flooded right off and spraying gasoline all over the manifold, so thinking the fuel coming in was too high in pressure bought a regulator and set it to 3 PSI going in, it STILL POURED FUEL EVERYWHERE! sent it back and put the old 600 cfm edelbrock back on it, lesson learned! dont get these, dont take a chance of irrigating your engine bay with fuel, so not worth it!

[@daveapex493]

Thanks for the thorough review - Better finding out this way than buying one and ending up getting the real thing later

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Agreed. I hope at least a few people see this and pass on it. Save a few folks the frustration.

[@daveapex493]

@@MuscleCarSolutions - Yeah - I forgot "liked" and "subscribed" - Just now waiting for a vid on ignition/ distributors - Thanks

[@tomreyn3610]

Note the big nut on the end of the primary throttle shaft. Will not accept Chrysler linkage adapter.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

That’s a good point. I’ll have to verify with some of the linkages I have. I’ll check it out!

[@rainman12345ful]

Try the Two barrel carburetor from Amazon

[@deanstevenson6527]

2:42 well placed Four -letter words. Let's see, Ford, Jeep, Olds, Inter, Cart, Sled, Crap..Ebay, Rock. Thanks for the review....

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Mine were far more colorful. 😉 Thanks for watching!

[@pauljohnson7may]

Buy Chinese buy twice.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Something like that!

[@lessthanbug]

I have one of these cheap, knockoff Chinese carbs on my 74 VW Bug and I tell you what, it is worth EVERY SINGLE PENNY I paid for it. It works perfectly and for roughly the same price as a rebuild kit for the West German made Solex that came on it. Is it made with the same quality materials that the Solex is made with? Nope. It doesn't even pretend to be. Does it work flawlessly and cost less that $50? Yep. Don't be afraid of these things because they are made in China. They work fine. I will keep the Chinese one on my Beetle until it goes bad and I will install the Solex back on to it, then I will buy a new Chinese one to keep as a backup. It's an ancient piece of technology that isn't hard to make correctly. You can't argue with results.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

If it’s a knock off of a carburetor that the original manufacturer no longer makes, that’s one thing. When it’s blatantly stolen from a manufacturer that is still currently making them, then it’s just plain theft. Which category does this one fit into?

[@iantharp6800]

Walton KY has a giant landfill conveniently

[@unpopularopinion3158]

You could by a real edelbrock carb used for a tenth of the cost and be way better off lol

[@sithyarael6807]

I would love to see what you do tear down with a Dan DaVinici carburetor,. He makes his for drag cars mostly nitrous yet many use them for blown and turbo.

[@iraagans3144]

Edelbrick's carburetor quality must have really jumped up in the last 20 years ? My old Weber/Carter carburetors were great quality peices, until they were "copied" by Edelbrock , putting boosters in the secondaries of the AVS? Cheap design and probably couldn't get the fuel tubes right. Late 90s I would try to contact them for help with parts and not a single person at the company ( back then) could get me any help? Anyway Edelbrock carburetors litter junkyards and pull-a-part yards now so why in the world would anybody pay 200.00$ for a knock off? I think I paid 15.00 $ for a 1405 and a 1404 500cfm. Honestly the old 9000 series I feel was better, even with flat cheesehead screws.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

You’re a little confused on a few things here. The exact same plant that made the competition series Carter has made the Edelbrock since day one. Literally those folks have been building that carburetor at that facility and some there today were there back in the Carter days. Edelbrock bought the fixtures and molds directly from Weber/Magnetti Marelli. They couldn’t be more identical other than that badge on the front of the carb. Boosters are what meter the fuel in the primary and secondaries. The carb doesn’t operate without them. Not sure what you’re talking about there - the design of the carb didn’t change until Edelbrock updated it for annular boosters in the primaries. As far as tech support goes, there are some long term Edelbrock employees that are still there. Smitty Smith has worked for Edelbrock for 30 years and is still going strong at 70 years old. If you use the contact form on their website, Smitty is the guy that answers those. There is no one in the world that knows that carburetor better than Smitty and the man literally trained every tech since that carburetor has been out. Including most of the tuning guide was written with his guidance. I get it. If you’re brand loyal to the Carter then that’s cool. But the points you tried to make are all completely incorrect. If you’re a fan of the carters, be a fan! As for being in junk yards, I think one thing this channel has done is help people to understand just how painfully easy it is to tune them. You just have to understand the process, which 100% applies to tuning an old competition series.

[@iraagans3144]

@@MuscleCarSolutions I was pointing out that the Original AVS carburetor did not have booster venturi's in the secondaries, they were brass tubes that were angled into the air stream by the air control plate. I'll send you one if you are unfamiliar with the design. Both Mopar and Chevrolet had these. I had a primary booster that extended far down into the bore of the venturi that I was researching form the 70s , I was literally told that it didn't exist? By the tech at edelbrock. Also Secondly air bleeds changes took place between Carter and edelbrock and primary shaft diameter, idle needle diameter and angle took place from carter to edelbrock. Also when Edelbrock name was on every carburetor they pretty much did away with manufacturer specific linkage so you had to buy adapters for anything non Chevrolet. When did you start messing with carburetors?

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

You’re comparing two totally different carburetors. The factor Carter’s came in a wide number of variants and Edelbrock never supported those. Neither did the folks at Federal Mogul when they owned the Carter competition series. The linkage you’re taking about is specific to the vehicle/engine it was offered on by the OE. Carter not Edelbrock “eliminated it”. It’s always been a universal replacement carburetor. I understand what you’re confused about now and it’s comparing a factory Carter to an aftermarket Carter competition series or Edelbrock performer/AVS series. Different animals.

[@briandetrick2688]

me and 8 other guys run the holly knockoffs and they do awsome.car. the know offs can't be exact cause of copies rights

[@CR-vu1rt]

So, an Edelbrock rebuild kit would correct the mistakes made in manufacturing? Junk.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Not hardly. It would correct the poor gaskets and maybe help the fuel intake. But without milling the thing down to get a good look at passage sizing, I can’t confirm why the AFR was so erratic. It’s wasted time.

[@MattsRageFitGarage]

I came across these on ebay last night. Last year I saw Holley clone carburetors on there but can't find them now. I've had awful luck with the genuine Edelbrock/AFB carbs as it is, can't imagine the problems that one would have.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Once you know how to tune, the Edelbrock is about the easiest there is. Especially with the tuning chart they supply. With this Chinese pile, it’s never going to be stable enough to find the right combination.

[@MattsRageFitGarage]

@@MuscleCarSolutions Easy to tune, but weird problems arose with the ones I have dealt with. I've stuck with Holley 4150's since and been able to make them do everything I want them to do with no issues. One of the 1406's that came on a vehicle I bought, the carb was almost brand new, maybe 2 months old out of the box and the throttle shafts on both primary and secondary throttle shafts hogged themselves out on the passenger side of the carburetor within 3000 miles. The driver's side throttle shafts were still tight. Never seen that before or since on any carb.

[@optimusprimer4392]

It's never the Edelbrock carburetors fault 99% of the time operator error

[@MattsRageFitGarage]

@@optimusprimer4392 No operator error on that one. There were no additional throttle return springs other than the factory spring on the throttle cable and nothing binding up or rubbing on that side. The driver's side main jet was also recessed into the carburetor body more than the passenger side jet was. That carb had Webber and Magnetti Marelli cast into the side of it. The oldest AFB I ever worked with was a genuine Carter from the 70's, that one was pretty good.

[@Schlipperschlopper]

Sadly soon all combustion cars and trucks including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025 on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Car washs will be forbidden too because they are climate killers, now they want to slow down all the gas station pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime. (BABVVEN & TEBBVEN laws )

[@LionsTigersBears]

Carburator once worked fine before he took it all apart. Now it is a non functional piece of crap sitting on the bench. These are not made to be taken apart. Once they are assembled. They are made to work till they wear out and thrown away. They are disposable carbs. That why i go with fuel injection unit.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Actually, it didn’t. If you watched the video I mentioned almost at the very beginning a word we used to describe how it acted on the dyno. And really, if it’s that delicate that it can’t even be disassembled, then what good is it?

[@SOLDOZER]

Test one of the Ebay Quadrajet carbs. I know they're junk, I wanna hear the autopsy results though.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

I’ve kept my eye out to see if I can find a cheap used one. Hate to buy one from that seller and support them bringing in that kind of garbage. If I ever get my hands on one, I’ll for sure be doing a tear down of it.

[@superduty4556]

If you think these are bad, try the Chinese Quadrajets.

[@fathergratwick]

Its really a weber / carter knock off like the edelbrock.. only this one is not "sanctioned"

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Incorrect. Edelbrock purchased the manufacturing facility and all the assets and from the beginning manufactured it under contract with the same employees, equipment and standards in Sanford NC. That’s a significant difference.

[@fathergratwick]

@@MuscleCarSolutions I was not aware of this. in forum discussion on this it was stated edelbrock now had much of the components made in china and final assembly done in the US now.. I dont know which is factual but I find that often when these types of knock offs pop up from china its because the original manufacturer gave them the tooling or means to make the tooling in the first place to have the components made there cheaper.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

@@fathergratwick go watch my video from the tour I took of the Edelbrock carburetor facility in Sanford NC. I can assure you they did none of those things you’re suggesting. 100% of that carburetor is made in the US at the same facility with some 30, 40 year employees that have worked there through several owners. Edelbrock has owned the production since the late 80s and outright bought the facility.

[@kevinragsdale6256]

is it ok to use screws on butterflys if you red locktight them?

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

100% no. If you swedge the ends would be better. But now you have a garbage carburetor that won’t idle or make power worth a damn but the screws won’t fall out!

[@rjames4533]

Qft says to loctite it's replacement throttle screws in place. I just read it on their website

[@lockedinstreetracing6005]

It’s a pressed piece the top of the carb

[@JoeBlow-dn9tn]

Edelbrock carburetors are a cheap knock off of carters!

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Carter hasn’t been relevant for 40 years! 😆

[@JoeBlow-dn9tn]

@@MuscleCarSolutions Exactly!

[@Stevesbe]

Edelbrock carbs are junk to begin with I couldn't imagine a knock off

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Just because you can’t figure out how to tune one, doesn’t make it junk.

[@herbnalis3723]

Does CS still stand for 'compettion series '??

[@littleoakey32]

Thanks for posting 😎

[@briang4470]

These days they make Chinese knock offs of pretty much every automotive carb ever, Chinese Holley's, motorcraft carbs, Rochester carbs and now edelbrocks/afbs. If the original carb you have is completely destroyed and not rebuidable and you don't have alot of money a Chinese carb will usually function and get you down the road but most of the time they never run 100% correctly and usually have very poor castings.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

It’s one thing if there were good enough to run well, even ok. But I’m 100% sure it’s going to be a massive pain with replacing parts, trying to tune and keeping up with all the difficulties I can see happening. Heck, right out of the box it needs a rebuild kit.

[@briang4470]

@@MuscleCarSolutions pretty much all of the Chinese automotive carbs I have fooled with would run but never run quite right. And most of the time the parts they use in them are slight different then the OEM carb so if you try to use an OEM rebuild kit in the knock off carb most of the time the parts and gaskets won't work. I would not recommend buying a Chinese carb for a car,truck,or boat. Maybe for something like a lawn mower or leaf blower but for something that you need to run right and be reliable just find a rebuildable name brand carb. Most of the time you can find good rebuildable edelbrocks on craigslist or market place for $50-$75 then throw a $50 rebuild kit in it and have a decent carb for less than the knock off.

[@daviddejesus7037]

Will money not they for good carburetor so I did buy one an Ben just 4days not bad so when things get better I will buy edelbrock but for now is working for me on my stock 350

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

You made the thieves very happy that you decided to support them. Sad.

[@HFG]

Wow. That's a pretty terrible "carb". Can you imagine trashing a valve because you cheaped out and a screw fell into the engine? Damn.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

It just got worse and worse the further I dig into it…. Horrible! But they’re selling a bunch of them.

[@TheThirdWheel618]

It's probably made into the metal that oily stuff seen these on eBay they have a Holley knockoff as well. The price brings you in but the quality is not there , I seen some Holley stuff although that was made like crap too expect more for 450.00. Glad I didn't buy one of these it's a Hot Mess ...

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

I certainly understand wanting to save move wheee you can. But these cheap knockoffs are not the solution. But they’ll never go away because quite a few don’t care about the quality or where it’s made. They just want what the want. 🤷‍♂️

[@TonysHotRodGarage]

I wouldn't give 200¢ for that damn thing let alone $200. I avoid Chyna shit at all costs.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Practically impossible these days. It’s surprising how many manufacturers have gone off shore with brands that used to be made in the US. It’s the stuff that’s stolen by some Chinese company like this knock off Edelbrock that I avoid. Thieves.

[@Shade_tree_garage01]

And still better than a real deal Edlebrock, I’m sorry but even if trust that more than a real Edlebrock

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Keep watching my carb tuning videos. I’ll help you get past that obstacle. Easiest, most dependable carb on the market to tune!

[@goonkieeyeracing1138]

Those Chinese carbs are hit n miss I have had im the odd duck I think elderbrock is kinda trash take apart a Carter and newer 1407 theirs defently a qaulity difference as well

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Funny thing about Edelbrock and the Carter competition series carbs. Heard plenty of folks say one is better than the other. In reality, they were/are literally made in the same facility with the same people, equipment, QC. The only thing Edelbrock has done is update some equipment and processes. There’s a dozen or so people working there for 20, 30 and even 40 years. As far as the Chinese knock off stuff. Might be hit or miss, but 100% of the time it hurts the American company and employees that it was stolen from.

[@john-wi5xx]

Well they copied junk with junk

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Don’t know a thing about carburetors eh John? Well I’ve got a ton a videos to help you learn! Get to watching! You’ve got a lot to go though. Let me know when you have any questions. 😀

[@christopherpoucher483]

U should rebuild it with all edelbrock parts

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Wouldn’t matter and not possible. There is hardware Edelbrock doesn’t provide as service/repair items (throttle blade hardware). Plus I’m not 100% sure how the main body is cast and how it actually delivers fuel (idle/main metering circuit). If I invest a ton of time and parts into it, and it’s marginally better, I could have bought a cheap actual Edelbrock core and rebuilt it cheaper. Just way too much unknown with this thing and I’m not willing to invest any more time into it. I’m sure there are plenty of folks who don’t support made in the USA products and will do anything to try and make it function.

[@ixlr8677]

stretch at spring.

[@samhicks97]

Your still better off buying an unrestored Carter AFB/AVS instead of this chrome Chinese dumpster fire that dares to call it's self a Carburetor.

[@ringgap]

405-300=105 jet

[@briandetrick2688]

just ran on to this video. been running one for a year know

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

How proud you must be!

[@VinoRatRodbuilds]

Cost will bit you every time.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

I really do feel bad for any wine who buys this thing. I know enough folks at Edelbrock to know they are already getting tech calls complaining about it and blaming Edelbrock for not being able to fix it. 😂 Crazy world we live in. It’s my hope that this video will help keep some of that junk off the market.

[@VinoRatRodbuilds]

@@MuscleCarSolutions I know I've spent good money for things I was thinking we're going to work, but ultimately you end up spending more if you just would have bought the right thing the first time.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

That’s a fact!

[@skinnyman9192]

So.. I guess I stumbled across this video too late ..

[@Robs-Garage-experiments]

This is exactly the things that need to be shown and without saying sorry for showing it. Garbage like this needs to be exposed and the tight wad cheap ass no money trying to save a buck guy needs to suck it up and get the real deal. If your going to complain about the “Expensive” American made parts, perhaps you need to rethink your hobby, spending habits or how to change your yearly income to double. The car hobby is not for you! Thanks for making this video!

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

I’m afraid that made in America isn’t that important to most anymore. Look at all the knock off stuff out there that folks buy and are happy as heck to tell others about. Only can do so much. Hopefully this will change a few peoples minds about supporting this kind of junk.

[@optimusprimer4392]

We need a extensive boycott of cheap Chinese garbage we don't need their crap

[@farcere]

Sound like the guy thats happy to go spend money at his local parts store on the same junk

[@buzzracer69ify]

Run it through a 100 ton press, what a piece of shit, thank you for the great review

[@ostrich67]

I thought those were Edelbrock remans or factory seconds, I had no idea that China is making them from scratch.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

Unfortunately they are Chinese knock offs. You can verify that by looking at the ones on Amazon. They’ll generally list a country of origin in the specifications of the part. Complete and total knock off. Not a very good one either.

[@alleycatparts]

It’s mind blowing to see these carbs- poor quality/ zero attention to detail.

[@MuscleCarSolutions]

For sure. What’s worse is some defend it or don’t care. But if anyone is on the fence about them….that’s where I can hopefully help and prevent a few of this trash to find it’s way into the country.