Cheap Mini-LED Monitors Are Taking Over the Market

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@OC.TINYYY
@OC.TINYYY Жыл бұрын
VA+mini led looks so much better than an IPS mini led monitor. Native contrast of the VA panel makes a huge difference to blooming and dark detail when combined w/ mini led.
@metacube9913
@metacube9913 Жыл бұрын
@@EvanXDev G7 Neo, gtfo
@helloguy8934
@helloguy8934 Жыл бұрын
But what about the vrr lag.
@syahrildesign9707
@syahrildesign9707 Жыл бұрын
for color VA is good, but respond time of Hz IPS is more better than VA
@helloguy8934
@helloguy8934 Жыл бұрын
@@syahrildesign9707 *contrast
@laserloui2008
@laserloui2008 Жыл бұрын
VA panels have very bad viewing angles though. Not sure how it would end up being with a triple monitor VA setup.
@Sam3532
@Sam3532 Жыл бұрын
8:55 them headshots though 😲
@flxdrv5020
@flxdrv5020 Жыл бұрын
I emailed KTC and said the firmware update to enable freesync with local dimming on would be available by april 16th
@fxarts9755
@fxarts9755 Жыл бұрын
interesting. seeing such cheap options makes me very optimistic about the whole mini led coming down in price a lot. hope it will be like how 4k came down in price a few years ago. super hyped for the mini led future!
@叶晁玮
@叶晁玮 Жыл бұрын
miniled is bad for gaming dont get too hyped
@chungisyoung4good
@chungisyoung4good Жыл бұрын
seeing how its 'you get what you payed for', I wouldn't hold my breath.
@fxarts9755
@fxarts9755 Жыл бұрын
@@chungisyoung4good like i said, 4k was also super expensive in the past. now u can get 4k for the same prices as HD few years ago. same goes for ips panels.
@chungisyoung4good
@chungisyoung4good Жыл бұрын
@@fxarts9755 that would be true IF the performance was the same at a lower price but its not. It slots as a lower tier product to the actual ones its being compared to. Therefore not pressuring any price drops. In fact its probably cementing those prices.
@socialreport999
@socialreport999 Жыл бұрын
​@@叶晁玮 Nope. For gaming mini leds in HDR overall are even better than OLEDs. They are much brighter and the contrast is very good.
@mwbeck
@mwbeck Жыл бұрын
I just found your channel not long ago (within a week). Your content is top notch and you have earned my subscription, Sir.
@tThisNThat
@tThisNThat 5 ай бұрын
I just found it a real week ago, and I couldn't agree more!
@rafaelcarreno778
@rafaelcarreno778 Жыл бұрын
Blooming doesn't bother me. I think this is the best alternative to OLED, without the high price, and many of the advantages.
@igavinwood
@igavinwood Жыл бұрын
Great overview. Thanks. I've been wondering for the last 2-3 years why the mini-LED tech hasn't hit the consumer market at a price point for the average user. It seems strange to me that the tech isn't being utillised while OLED is now becoming available at a cheaper price point. I'd love to see the mini-LED as a standard and for it to be available in sRGB and standard colour setting as the consumer would benefit from great picture quality and not be afraid of burn-in. But here's the question; will it? What will come first I wonder. OLED no longer suffering from burn-in or mini-LED at all picture/panel settings?
@ohkey2999
@ohkey2999 Жыл бұрын
The burn in is still there.
@FNLNFNLN
@FNLNFNLN Жыл бұрын
OLED comes with obsolescence built in at the tech level, MiniLED will last you a decade easy. As for which one will get it's problems fixed... neither will ever. Burn in is fundamental to OLED technology. It can't be "fixed". In terms of contrast and color performance, MiniLED ought to be able to catch up with OLED pretty quickly... if there's investment. But even then, OLED is probably still going to be superior in terms of response time, since switching an LED on or off is always going to be faster than the liquid crystals in an LCD literally moving to block light or let it through. The real solution for both of these, and kind of where you end up anyways as you "fix" their problems, is MicroLED, aka, OLED except with non organic LEDs that don't have a built in chance to degrade, or miniLED when zone count = pixel count and you can just get rid of the LCD. That or AMQLED, which is MicroLED except the LEDs are based on quantum dots. When either of those will come to market... who knows. Samsung is allegedly releasing a MicroLED TV for the low low price of.... $80,000. How long that will take to get down to something reasonable, if ever, who knows. As for AMQLED, some Chinese company released a tech demonstrator a while back, but I haven't seen any rumors of anyone trying to go commercial with them, and I've seen some studies bringing up issues with... burn in.
@ascendantMethEnjoyer
@ascendantMethEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
​@@FNLNFNLN quality reply
@griftgfx
@griftgfx Жыл бұрын
The answer to the final question is neither. MicroLED or another technology entirely will overtake MiniLED before it gets near that performance level.
@tablettablete186
@tablettablete186 Жыл бұрын
There is also something that Samsung is working on: The basic idea is that you have an OLED display if a single color and a filter that "produces the final color". Tha backlight is an OLED basically. (QDOLED if I am not mistaken) This allows for more resistant OLED, while having multiple colors
@CobiesTech
@CobiesTech Жыл бұрын
Never heard of this brand, thanks for the very detailed information of this monitor and brand !
@rezwan_edit
@rezwan_edit Жыл бұрын
perhaps they're new to the market and they're already killing it
@Aecerbot
@Aecerbot Жыл бұрын
@@rezwan_editnew to their own branded monitors specifically but have been in the game since the 90s
@gottachange
@gottachange Жыл бұрын
Good job KTC!!!
@retrotechpinas3640
@retrotechpinas3640 Жыл бұрын
@@rezwan_edit KTC has been making monitors mostly as OEMs for other brands since 2003
@malithaw
@malithaw Жыл бұрын
I would not have even heard of this brand if it weren't for your covering their products. Great work!
@GewelReal
@GewelReal Жыл бұрын
Fast, non-curved VA? 500+ zones? Under 500$?????? Shut up and take my money!
@ValkryNL
@ValkryNL 9 ай бұрын
Isn't curving important for VA's viewing angles?
@sekir9694
@sekir9694 8 ай бұрын
​@@ValkryNLIt s horrible 💀 my experience with curved
@ValkryNL
@ValkryNL 8 ай бұрын
​@@sekir9694How so
@Triro
@Triro 11 ай бұрын
Jeez, only 11 months later and prices have come down to 329$ on sale form KTC
@Dianaranda123
@Dianaranda123 Жыл бұрын
Still waiting for a 32inch Oled or MiniLed at 144hz+ that does all this stuff at around 800ish€
@KTC1995
@KTC1995 Жыл бұрын
KTC M32P10 Miniled might be your choice
@gavinderulo12
@gavinderulo12 Жыл бұрын
The Samsung neo G7 has twice as many zones and is 32 inches. Might be the right one for you, though it is a little more expensive.
@gavinderulo12
@gavinderulo12 Жыл бұрын
@@KTC1995 when will this one release in Europe? Couldn't find much info on it.
@DandyDude
@DandyDude Жыл бұрын
You'll have to wait quite a while
@Dianaranda123
@Dianaranda123 Жыл бұрын
@@DandyDude Sadly and super annoyingly so.
@DarkKnight896
@DarkKnight896 Жыл бұрын
Picked up the M27P20 Pro recently and so far I am very impressed by it!
@isaackass6093
@isaackass6093 9 ай бұрын
How is it holding up?
@ffh2303
@ffh2303 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I almost bought this but the quirks with SDR is a dealbreaker for me. Here's hoping next gen models fixes this.
@jasonnugent963
@jasonnugent963 Жыл бұрын
As a tech guy who’s been in the industry since the 80’s,.. the advances and improvements in technology is just mindblowing.
@geoded
@geoded Жыл бұрын
Every now and then a single product comes along and sets the bar at a new level. It doesn't necessarily have to succeed commercially (they often don't) but take the Game Gear, the PSP or the M1 MacBook. They raise what "acceptable standards" for the industry are and then you can never really go back.
@The1Music2MyEars
@The1Music2MyEars Жыл бұрын
Monitors haven't really advanced that far, TVs have. Most monitors are being made at 250 nits. Most monitor companies are hyper focused on Hz that by next year, 2000Hz will be the main reason to upgrade from the thousands of sub models each company releases. Picture quality is still not priority and yes that includes giving consumers the ability to choose a screen finish
@bremer1701
@bremer1701 Жыл бұрын
so are the improvements in pricing.
@dariomladenovski7047
@dariomladenovski7047 Жыл бұрын
these monitors push way ahead of 250 nits
@C0BEX
@C0BEX Жыл бұрын
I have bought the VA one. Very satisfied with the performance, no defects, and some of the issues mentioned have already been resolved by firmware update. Still cannot use 165Hz with HDR. So far I wanted to take advantage of the miniLED local dimming and HDR by watching a movie. Big problem are dark scenes, especially everything that is near black. You are basically watching a black screen, all shadow detail is gone. Bright colorful scenes are amazing.
@josil708
@josil708 Жыл бұрын
Have the same monitor. Can use 165Hz in HDR by creating a custom resolution in Nvidia control panel but will disable DSR. Not sure how to do this with AMD if that’s what you have
@C0BEX
@C0BEX Жыл бұрын
@@josil708 for me the 144Hz is not a big deal. The way too dark hdr in movies is way worse.
@C0BEX
@C0BEX Жыл бұрын
I just want to add more information. I have resolved the issue with too dark HDR. The problem was that I was using an older version of Kodi, which was doing HDR tone mapping wrong. When I updated Kodi to the latest version, there is a specific option for HDR tone mapping that can be enabled. Shadow detail is still not the best, for example the famous House of the Dragon episode is still unwatchable, but that is the case on many good TVs as well.
@donsly375
@donsly375 Жыл бұрын
how is the dimming in SDR? Is it good?
@C0BEX
@C0BEX Жыл бұрын
@@donsly375 no dimming is never good in SDR on any monitor Edit: for desktop use. For games and videos it is fine
@deereboy8400
@deereboy8400 Жыл бұрын
The updated firmware for the KTC M27T20 is now available. VRR/g-synch now works with local dimming. Brightness and color adjustment are still locked while in HDR mode. I bought the monitor because of this video and an mostly happy with it. No dead pixels, BLINDING brightness, and minimal blooming. Color is over saturated, especially in the cyans. The warm color temperature setting is still too cool for my eyes. Reading black text on a white background is uncomfortable. Previous monitor was a Dell Ultrasharp IPS U2410.
@gentle_singularity
@gentle_singularity Жыл бұрын
So the monitor is too bright? My room is pretty dark most of the time so I'm wondering if this is too bright for me.
@deereboy8400
@deereboy8400 Жыл бұрын
@@gentle_singularity Possibly. It gets dim enough to game comfortably in a dark room. Not quite dim enough for falling asleep with a movie on.
@michiszc
@michiszc Жыл бұрын
@@deereboy8400how much did you pay for it?
@tomek_l
@tomek_l Жыл бұрын
In VRR and HDR simultaneously, is overdrive setting also locked? And did you experience any flickering using both VRR , HDR and Local Dimming at the same time?
@deereboy8400
@deereboy8400 Жыл бұрын
@@tomek_l All overdrive settings are available when HDR and VRR are enabled. Flicker is only a problem when HDR is off, local dimming is at the higher two settings, and brightness and contrast are turned way down.
@voisewolfteam9976
@voisewolfteam9976 Жыл бұрын
900p gamer here. I really advise this resolution at this price point, especially if you play shooters/battle royale. It can be really easy to spot enemies that are far. $799 would be affordable
@Haisezed
@Haisezed Жыл бұрын
is the KTC M27T20 fine for gaming considering the VA Panel or is there too much ghosting/smearing?
@Dantido
@Dantido Жыл бұрын
Well, those annoyances are a shame. These monitors could become the absolute best if HDR didn't grey out basically every setting. Hopefully that firmware update will fix it.
@heatnup
@heatnup Жыл бұрын
thats typical with nearly every HDR capable monitor
@herrerkan
@herrerkan Жыл бұрын
Its false information in the Video. Thats Windows when you enable HDR. U need to adjust every setting then in Windows itself
@iKrieGtube
@iKrieGtube Жыл бұрын
@@herrerkan yeah but the Freesync incompatibility with Local Dimming/HDR is false too? I want to buy it, but this downside is pushing me away from this product
@herrerkan
@herrerkan Жыл бұрын
@@iKrieGtube For my last 3 Monitors HDR with G or Freesync glitched always. I recommend not using G/F-Sync in general, above 120 FPS is much more useful. Also with them enabled you get a bit of Inputlag, which is very noticible
@takishan
@takishan Жыл бұрын
@@heatnup the MacBook pro 16 inch's display does this perfectly. HDR on constantly, it's mini-led but blacks are always dark, even in non-HDR content. near no blooming, and the colors are fantastic.
@EnnTomi1
@EnnTomi1 Жыл бұрын
its coming. next gen monitors. hell yeah !!!!
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech Жыл бұрын
Got my Innocn 27M2V 4K 160Hz Mini LED with 1152 dimming zones a couple weeks ago. Blows away my old 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz non Mini LED screen.
@Simon_Hawkshaw
@Simon_Hawkshaw Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this excellent review of this technology. It is very helpful and much appreciated.
@sefaisgames9843
@sefaisgames9843 Жыл бұрын
Much needed KTC and couldn't be better timed, Thanks a lot!
@pressrepeat2000
@pressrepeat2000 Жыл бұрын
Think I’m going to buy the KTC one. It’s actually similar in price to the non-mini-LED gaming monitors with similar features, including 90W USBC for MacBook Pros.
@helloguy8934
@helloguy8934 Жыл бұрын
What about the gp27q
@MaunaGuerrero
@MaunaGuerrero Жыл бұрын
I received today the Redmagic 4k 160hz mini-led with 1152 dimming zones, and it Is amazing!!! $869 (launched April 6th), and they don't charge tax here in the US. The monitor Is much better, and cheaper than my Sony Inzone M9 by a huge margin. It works flawlessly with hdr, local dimming, vrr, and 160hz enabled at the same time with no issues at all, Zero flickering.
@Lex-vf2fo
@Lex-vf2fo Жыл бұрын
They don’t charge tax? You mean they have taxes included in their prices…
@carsonj4031
@carsonj4031 9 ай бұрын
now we have mini led displays under $300. I just bought one and its really great.
@hazemam
@hazemam 9 ай бұрын
which one did you get under $300?
@govip4725
@govip4725 Жыл бұрын
i was looking for a second affordable monitor and that sceptre one might be perfect. and since its a second monitor it doesnt need to be a good monitor so thanks for haveing that there cuz i might buy it
@dingo23451
@dingo23451 Жыл бұрын
Is ghosting a big problem with these VA panels?
@waltuh6984
@waltuh6984 Жыл бұрын
when do you think the first 4k 120+hz 27" 500+ zone monitors will come out that dont have annoying quirks and 4k 120+ oled 27" monitors
@heroninja1125
@heroninja1125 Жыл бұрын
oh there already is a few out, at the moment the most competitively priced one is the innocn 27M2V which will set you back around $799 USD or $1129 CAD. It is a 4k 160Hz monitor with 1152 dimming zones and vesa displayhdr1000 certified.
@waltuh6984
@waltuh6984 Жыл бұрын
@@heroninja1125 yeah was looking at that one but i live in australia and it has like 250usd import fees
@mk_787
@mk_787 Жыл бұрын
MiniLED is definitely the future because it's cheaper and theoretically not inferior to OLED at all. If one day somebody figures out how to put 1920*1080 zones into a panel, thing will look very very bad for OLED as it has much worse lifespan compare to MiniLED.
@heroninja1125
@heroninja1125 Жыл бұрын
Micro-LED is basically what you described, each pixel is its own dimming zone, or more accurately its just oled but the lighting element for each pixel is a non organic compound which makes it an LED as opposed to the carbon based organic element used in OLED (which causes burn in and lower brightness)
@skylk559
@skylk559 Жыл бұрын
Having owned Samsung Neo G8, I feel like the 576 zones are not enough to have the best experience for the 27-inch screen.
@dariomladenovski7047
@dariomladenovski7047 Жыл бұрын
it's enough for that price considering that mid range TV's have 100-300 zones, if you want the best shell out more cash
@NedimTabakovic
@NedimTabakovic Жыл бұрын
Great vid with deep insight 👍🏻
@hashneurosys
@hashneurosys Жыл бұрын
there is another monitor called Titan Army 27A6MR. not sure its available in your country market but if does i would love to see a review on it. it got similar spec
@rohanleander
@rohanleander Жыл бұрын
Love your videos.
@Mark-ie9hi
@Mark-ie9hi Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you very much! May i ask if you are from Germany or Austria? 😅😄
@Mustis91
@Mustis91 Жыл бұрын
honestly if you can't afford or don't want to get an oled, you could get a va monitor of the newest generation. I've got the aoc agon ag275qxn which is around 300-320 $/€ and i really like it. It's flat(!), 1440 p and the colors and contrast are amazing! plus it has a faster panel than older va monitors so the typical side effects of va monitors really arent't that noticable if you're not looking for them with a microscope. Sure it's not an oled but for the money i'm really happy with it . Liebe Grüße 😜
@stanislavkimov2779
@stanislavkimov2779 Жыл бұрын
How does mini-LED compare to OLED? I heard OLED was much better, totally another level. But maybe it was said by people who followed the OLED marketing hype and are now justifying their expensive purchase. It feels wrong to have OLED for PC, for the concern of burn-in. I wouldn't be able to use it normally. OLED would be only good for movies/gaming, so as a TV. I want to upgrade my monitor now, and am thinking, should I take a 4K mini-LED? IPS or VA.
@dariomladenovski7047
@dariomladenovski7047 Жыл бұрын
watch the Hardware unboxed test he compared miniLES to OLED and his conclusion was that miniLED with a lot of zones gives you pretty much OLED blacks
@heroninja1125
@heroninja1125 Жыл бұрын
@@stanislavkimov2779 a good quality mini-LED will give an oled a run for its money, part of it is oled marketing however if you REALLY want absolute perfect blacks 100% of the time then oleds are for you, and if you want the 100% best gaming monitor then oleds are for you, however mini-led monitors will give you way better brightness and often colors as well for a lower price, and consequently you will get a better monitor for the same price as a 4k 160hz miniled with stunning colors will set you back just as much as a 1440p 144hz oled monitor with subpar colors.
@cablestick
@cablestick Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have heard of these brands if it wasn't you. Thanks man!
@gottachange
@gottachange Жыл бұрын
Good job KTC!!
@nikilragav
@nikilragav Жыл бұрын
It's still $750-$1100 for 4K MiniLED. Hoping it gets down to $400 soon. Exciting times.
@dariomladenovski7047
@dariomladenovski7047 Жыл бұрын
that will happen i 4 years
@mk_787
@mk_787 Жыл бұрын
@@dariomladenovski7047 You're most likely right, but maybe MiniLED monitors will get to that $400 bracket first and become the standard for this price point while OLED remains in a higher price zone as it does do brightness adjustment on a pixel level. It will be very interesting to see how OLED compares to MiniLED if manufacturers figure out how to squeeze 1280*720 zones, for example, into a panel. It's not pixel level adjustment but it's going to be pretty damn close to pixel level to that extent. Maybe MiniLED will completely takeover the market with better brightness and longer lifespan.
@arsnosatu6
@arsnosatu6 Жыл бұрын
impressive review. keep up the good work.
@Kadir67_471
@Kadir67_471 Жыл бұрын
Is this brand available in Germany?
@Nonspecies
@Nonspecies 11 ай бұрын
The main Difference between this 2 KTCs are not only the Resolution, the IPS can 10Bit but the VA only lame 8bit!
@samuelkfr
@samuelkfr 9 ай бұрын
Not sure if you're talking about the panel itself or the bitdpeth you can send at it. I checked my M27T20, and windows does use 10 bpc when in HDR mode. The screen is probably using FRC (or any kind of dithering actually) internally, but it does take 10 bit input and display it superbly.
@Nonspecies
@Nonspecies 9 ай бұрын
@@samuelkfr Both Panel an Bit! But what i written is false dont know from where i have this information i just watched on the ktc page and.... hmmmm T20 and P20 have IPS and 8 Bit FRC
@despooked
@despooked Жыл бұрын
I wonder how the black smearing is in the VA model? Does the local dimming help mitigate it?
@Agp1597
@Agp1597 Жыл бұрын
NICE , PERFECT i really want those prices go down to be honest the monitor manufacturers have being soo greedy at maintaining those daamm high prices in the market i hope we see soon decent HDR monitor below the 200 dollar mark
@lextr3110
@lextr3110 Жыл бұрын
we are all waiting for 4k 165hz RGB oled with perfect white on black..
@germanfernandez1203
@germanfernandez1203 Жыл бұрын
This is the info that I need!!!
@BenSake
@BenSake 8 ай бұрын
Hi, images on VA panel look more saturated than on IPS. Could you comment on that? When viewing in real life, do colors on pro version with IPS panel look more pleasing? Would you be able to do video editing on VA panel?
@g1zmo85
@g1zmo85 Жыл бұрын
Kind of leaning towards these, KTC fixed the issues with a firmware update, were you able to test the new firmware?
@sessch
@sessch Жыл бұрын
I don't know if they can hold this price for long. LG offered a few weeks ago, a 20% discount for joining their newsletter. This 20% discount was offered to their knew upcoming 27 OLED Monitor. Endprice was approximately 800-880 EUR. Yes, in the end it is a wqhd monitor, but still OLED technology. With reference to the HDR turning on and off. This same issue was buzzing me off with the AW3423DWF, yes you could use the AW with HDR off in desktop and haven't any kind of blooming, but still, if you wanted to enjoy HDR content, you still had to turn it on and off. Because windows has still it's issues in using HDR on desktop. For me it was very annyoing.
@iben3271
@iben3271 Жыл бұрын
can you still get that lg discount?
@meco
@meco Жыл бұрын
What was the newsletter code?
@Kadir67_471
@Kadir67_471 Жыл бұрын
Nice Video! Can you review the xiaomi mi 2k gaming monitor 27" a budget monitor with WQHD IPS 165hz 95% DCi-p3 and 100% sRGB and 400nits- idk if it's a good price/value the spec sheets look decent and you can buy it n germany for 300 Euros atm. But there are almost no 3thrd Party reviews. Would you still recommend it?
@Areen51
@Areen51 Жыл бұрын
Seems like a good deal tbh
@Keivz
@Keivz Жыл бұрын
Incredible. I just ordered the m27t20 yesterday. Doesn’t arrive until March though. I’m ok with using it as a 144 hz panel (given the 160 hz limitations) and I always have hdr on in windows with my oled tv (looks fine to me and I’ll just be gaming on the thing anyway) but lack of vrr+hdr+local dimming is an absolute deal breaker. I’ll be returning it within the 30 day return period if they don’t update it like coolmaster did. I would have just got the coolmaster but it’s been sold out forever. Anyway, huge thank you for the review!
@абвгдђежзијклљмнњопрстћуфхцчџш
@абвгдђежзијклљмнњопрстћуфхцчџш Жыл бұрын
I think that KTC mentioned that a firmware update is on the way to fix the issue and let you have VRR+local dimming at the same time like Cooler Master did. Let me know if you hear anything about it please, I'm very interested in M27T20 as well.
@JaceFunkyFace
@JaceFunkyFace Жыл бұрын
I want to know why VRR is such a big thing. The display also has FreeSync / G-sync and that should be enough.
@Keivz
@Keivz Жыл бұрын
@@JaceFunkyFace vrr is a synonym for g sync, free sync, adaptive sync these days. Bottom line, this display can’t do any of those things when local dimming is active which is a huge handicap
@Keivz
@Keivz Жыл бұрын
Fwiw, I returned the monitor. Still no update.
@абвгдђежзијклљмнњопрстћуфхцчџш
@абвгдђежзијклљмнњопрстћуфхцчџш Жыл бұрын
@@Keivz oh man, that's a bummer. What did you think of it in general?
@bakakafka4428
@bakakafka4428 8 ай бұрын
How does the local dimming and switching between sdr and hdr now look after firmware update? An update short video would be great.
@x9x9x9x9
@x9x9x9x9 Жыл бұрын
Can you do the KTC M32P10? It has 1152 instead of 576 on this one.
@armen1136
@armen1136 Жыл бұрын
I'm eagerly awaiting that one. Hopefully it gets released in the US soon.
@dariomladenovski7047
@dariomladenovski7047 Жыл бұрын
the 2k VA that's in the video will still look better, contrast ratio matters more than zones for picture quality
@armen1136
@armen1136 Жыл бұрын
@@dariomladenovski7047 Yeah I know, I just wish there were more VA options with higher zone counts. I tried the Samsung Neo G7 and G8 and wasn't a fan of the curve. This one looks like a decent choice until something better comes along.
@dariomladenovski7047
@dariomladenovski7047 Жыл бұрын
@@armen1136 yes this one ticks all the boxes for me, 27inches is the biggest size I'm willing to go for a monitor 32 is too big for me, I wish it had 1000+ zones too but for 500$ you can't beat this monitor
@0ffaI
@0ffaI Жыл бұрын
​@@dariomladenovski7047 Did you end up grabbing the monitor? I'm curious how backlight bleed is on it and whether local dimming is *actually* bad for sdr games/movies.
@CrunchyTire
@CrunchyTire 2 ай бұрын
Back in my day we bought 65 inch TVs with 15 local dimming zones, AND LIKED IT! Psh, kids today
@teamvrzo
@teamvrzo Жыл бұрын
Can you please review gigabyte g27f 2 . Thanks 🙏
@soloistcool
@soloistcool Жыл бұрын
Hallo Techless, sehr informatives Video. Viele Dank! Weißt du ob KTC das Update, welches VRR mit local dimming möglich macht schon veröffentlicht hat?
@RemD-pn9of
@RemD-pn9of Жыл бұрын
Ich bin zwar nicht Techless, aber da ich den Monitor selbst Samstag bekommen habe: Das entsprechende Update findest du auf der Seite von KTC unter Downloads (runterscrollen). VRR (in meinem Falle GSync) + LD funktioniert problemlos mit dem FW-Update. Kleiner Hinweis: In der Anleitung steht man solle den Stick mit Fat formatieren, funktionierte bei mir aber nicht, NSFT hat dann aber geklappt.
@History_Repeats-cu5je
@History_Repeats-cu5je 8 ай бұрын
@@RemD-pn9of Hi, paar Fragen wenn du so nett bist als Besitzer: 1) Ist nach dem Firmware Update die Helligkeit in HDR gesunken wenn Local Dimming + VRR + HDR gleichzeitig aktiviert ist? 2) Kann man die Helligkeit einstellen wenn HDR aktiviert ist oder ist es ausgegraut? 3) Ist die Helligkeit in HDR/SDR in der Nacht in einem Raum ohne Licht akzeptabel oder zu hell?
@jbasasa
@jbasasa Жыл бұрын
So Mini-LED does it's best in HDR which is something most people don't put on about 95% of the time. I feel Windows should improve the HDR and SDR and want Mini-LED to be standard because I care about great quality of picture and many people will too
@goldkat94
@goldkat94 Жыл бұрын
I feel that we need a new OS for gaming. Windows has disappointed us long enough...
@leeknow.h6681
@leeknow.h6681 Жыл бұрын
Much needed and couldn't be better timed
@Milofox1
@Milofox1 Жыл бұрын
micro or mini led will be my next, but I want it in 32-34 inch 3440x1440 resolution
@es__music
@es__music Жыл бұрын
What is the Pixel Density on these things?
@SephirothVG
@SephirothVG Жыл бұрын
Woher hast du die gekauft? Ich kann die beiden nicht auf Amazon finden..Bei otto gibts der non pro version aber es kostet fast 600 eur....
@KingdomUploader
@KingdomUploader 4 ай бұрын
What about mini led with quantum dot tech together. Does that fix anything at all?
@DenizKupanaha
@DenizKupanaha Жыл бұрын
Would’ve been nice to see a Mac connected as well
@thomascleveland
@thomascleveland Жыл бұрын
I wish Linus tech tips would take notes on your chill style. I love how you don't scream.
@JohnDoe-su8ew
@JohnDoe-su8ew Жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Was surprised to learn that the mini-led feature only works properly if there is software that can utilize it.
@Razorfiend
@Razorfiend Жыл бұрын
This is an awesome review, great information. I ordered the M27T20 on Amazon and should hopefully have it by Feb 15th.
@NewBreed2205
@NewBreed2205 Жыл бұрын
@techless, have you got the chance to check the new firmware? Maybe a follow-up video if you still have the 2k monitor available :)
@Killerhippo111
@Killerhippo111 Жыл бұрын
Heyho, hasst du dir die aus den USA importiert, wenn ja werden die deutlich teurer oder kann man die auch bei uns kaufen ?
@Dor_sap
@Dor_sap Жыл бұрын
what wallpaper do you use on your setup ?
@tronam
@tronam Жыл бұрын
I was getting really excited for a few minutes and then the downsides quickly obliterated my enthusiasm. I still haven't found an external mLED display as good as the one in this 16" MacBook Pro without costing more than $2000.
@lilpain1997
@lilpain1997 Жыл бұрын
That display is only good for looking at static images... The amount of blur that thing has is fucking horrendous when trying to play or move anything
@flockelocke2297
@flockelocke2297 Жыл бұрын
@@lilpain1997 No! Check out the Displayninja review. This VA panel has to be pretty amazing.
@heroninja1125
@heroninja1125 Жыл бұрын
You might consider taking a look at the innocn 27M2V, 4k 160hz with 1152 dimming zones and excellent implementation of local dimming, Vesa displayHDR 1000 certified and has 99% DCI-p3 and 99% Adobe RGB color gamut with 1~2MS response times. Its basically a perfect mix of features of gaming monitors and photography monitors.
@kelownatechkid
@kelownatechkid Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this coverage... Very interesting for all these details that are crucial to know!
@pncx9872
@pncx9872 Жыл бұрын
are mini leds monitor beneficial for competitive games? or is it just more or less just for hdr content?
@Gabrielsmusic
@Gabrielsmusic Жыл бұрын
better for hdr content, but bc of mini-led's tech, they tend to have high refresh rates anyways, but you still want to consider response times. These monitors look like they'd be great for most gamers though, and even entry level videographers
@wadez1000
@wadez1000 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for that wallpapper?
@eziothedeadpoet
@eziothedeadpoet Жыл бұрын
this video is best watched on OLED screens 🤣
@dariomladenovski7047
@dariomladenovski7047 Жыл бұрын
too dim 🤣🤣
Жыл бұрын
My monitor is 1080p with 60 refresh rate but my friend said I should get one or more with higher.because the experience is unbelievable.it’s actually affordable tho
@RicardoSilva-hk2er
@RicardoSilva-hk2er Жыл бұрын
00:15 There is a huge difference between the centre and the right mini led monitors, which one is the pro and the normal version?
@RicardoSilva-hk2er
@RicardoSilva-hk2er Жыл бұрын
@techless
@torukmakto6246
@torukmakto6246 Жыл бұрын
Great content! May I know the wallpaper of the thumbnail? Thanks!
@Burimenzi
@Burimenzi Жыл бұрын
"Bis zum nächsten Video" am Ende hat dir einen Follower verschafft. 🙂
@petrsonTD
@petrsonTD Жыл бұрын
idk guys. I bought ktc m27t20 (1440p VA) and the blacks are really something you want, but I really mind that when you have areas that are only 50 light up you can see that back light is also turned down. so you are in situation when differnt between fully light up part of screen vs part of screen thats light up only for 50% brightness is higher than it should be. because pixels are set to block 50% of the light and then another 50% its taken from local dimming and its just looks like a broken monitor to me sometimes. plus whole hdr 1000 isnt good. like do you really want to get your eyes burned out in your evening play? it might be goog if you play in summer day, but i dont. i personally bought it with the hope for better blacks... and it's doing it in some ways, but in other ways it's ruining it. i'll probably going to return it. and I'll also sell my IPS monitor and just buy a VA panel. it has better blacks than IPS and with the good VA you should see smearing. i would be really happy if i could just buy this same version of the monitor without the mini-LED. i know that i can just turn off the local dimming, but that would be a waste of money. one day maybe I'll just buy woled monitor.
@kapoioskapou
@kapoioskapou 7 ай бұрын
Hello there, and thank you for the settings! May I ask, the ICC profile is for SDR or HDR (ICC advanced)? Cheers!
@MaTiCeK
@MaTiCeK Жыл бұрын
Great review! If I understood correctly, I can turn off HDR and local dimming while doing office work. and the display will turn to a basic IPS, there will be no blooming? Some context for my plans: I am looking to buy a new display (actually my first display in 20 years as I was only using laptops due to spatial constraints). My main computer will be a Mac (MBP14 I currently already own). I am planning to do some music production, occasional really basic video edit, otherwise it will be more or less office work (reading pdfs, writing documents, preparing presentations). Additionally I plan to connect a Playstation 5 to the same display. At first I was looking at Ultrawide displays, but they are no good for PS5 and also only 1440p. I understand Mac OS has limitations with scaling & 1440p is a great resolution for the system. I am afraid the jagged text and my OCD with pixel peeping would go into overdrive... So next I settled on the Gigabyte M32u, but it has the problem, of only 15W PD via USB C, so there is no way to have only one cable going to my MBP. Next I came across the Cooler Master and eventually the KTC. I hate that they are 27", as I went to a local Media Markt and sat at a desk with a 27" monitor and next 32" one, and the 32" seem like a sweet spot to me... But coming from a tiny 14" laptop screen, 27" will seem huge once home with no 32" monitor next to it.
@alexk6745
@alexk6745 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that my eyes get less tired with cfl light. few years back I bought at the auction a monitor for that reason and I still use it.
@vividas
@vividas Жыл бұрын
How does the M27T20 handle dark smearing?
@nicatmustafayev2555
@nicatmustafayev2555 Жыл бұрын
For a new brand that's absolutely affordable
@Sevan_UP
@Sevan_UP Жыл бұрын
$2500 for a monitor thats not a tv and is only 27-32 inches in size is outrageous
@tomtomkowski7653
@tomtomkowski7653 Жыл бұрын
So let's hope that Gigabyte or MSI will release something similar but way more polished with a similar price. Still waiting for a good 1440p 24" monitor because 1140p on 24" looks almost as good as 4K on the 27" because of the PPI.
@mannyman139
@mannyman139 Жыл бұрын
Those 2 brands and polished in the same sentence is funny
@tomtomkowski7653
@tomtomkowski7653 Жыл бұрын
@@mannyman139 Gigabyte G27Q (P and X) are very good monitors.
@mannyman139
@mannyman139 Жыл бұрын
@@tomtomkowski7653 too much QC issues
@jhanninnen
@jhanninnen Жыл бұрын
have you seen the lenovo G24qe-20 , it's on the low end side
@lilpain1997
@lilpain1997 Жыл бұрын
@@mannyman139 funny, as literally all companies have trash. But they also all have stupidly good stuff as well. MSI have an amazing 1440p monitor that gets recommended by HUB all the time for it being so damn good
@ChrisWilleitner
@ChrisWilleitner Жыл бұрын
Hi, i wanna have a new Monitor, which would you choose for gaming, i play both fps and Singleplayer games, Dell S2721dgf, KTC h27t22 or KTC M27T20? Thank you already
@Gradzik1441
@Gradzik1441 Жыл бұрын
How is ghosting? Very noticeable? I play a lot of cs:go, overwatch and apex legends
@trobaxtv
@trobaxtv Жыл бұрын
Can you do an updated video for best budget monitor for the PS5 please
@trobaxtv
@trobaxtv Жыл бұрын
I'm really struggling to find a monitor for my PS5 "MSI Optix G27CQ4 or ASUS VG27AQZ 27" or maybe something else the gigabyte m27q is so expensive in my country
@ignaciosevil2157
@ignaciosevil2157 Жыл бұрын
I’m I just gonna be better with a budget option like the g7?
@MrLPWatcher1000
@MrLPWatcher1000 Жыл бұрын
Wo gibt es die denn in/nach Deutschland zu kaufen?
@winniethemao3429
@winniethemao3429 Жыл бұрын
Where is the response time?
@elyad67
@elyad67 Жыл бұрын
If it only was 21:9 wouldn’t even care if it was 29” 2560x1080 would take that over the 2K “27 that format is something else.
@jasonycw1992
@jasonycw1992 Жыл бұрын
Time to check out Innocn 27M2V as well
@thedarkplayer
@thedarkplayer Жыл бұрын
Is the icc calibration profile for SDR, HDR or both?
@techlessYT
@techlessYT Жыл бұрын
SDR ✌️
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Жыл бұрын
But you still have the image persistance created by the LCD crystals, OLED is still a better technology than any LCD, specially QD OLED. MiniLEDs fixed the contrast and color but motion resolution is not there yet.
@goldkat94
@goldkat94 Жыл бұрын
Any news about the HDR enabled with adaptive sync firmware update?
@nfmc6640
@nfmc6640 Жыл бұрын
Cool video 👍
@bakakafka4428
@bakakafka4428 Жыл бұрын
where can you order these in Germany?
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