Cheapest Ways To Upset Your Friends

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[@captain_cannoli5566]

I hope you get coal for this list lol Merry Christmas Kenobi!

[@TheSableyeGuy]

I'm a little shocked/upset. You made no comment about the building in Tsunami's art

[@anthonybrainwood8015]

Worldpurge should be on this salt train too.

[@tapedeccard]

Really thought the ad was very amusing this time lol

[@GH-zv6br]

You can put Hokori in Alesha and sac it just before your turn, then bring it back on the attack trigger for maximum salt

[@soupcansam75]

Urza player detected

[@Gundogantv]

As someone who plays Nath with cards like Oppression, Contamination and Pox effects and 4C Omnath with cards like Mana Breach, Overburden and Storm Cauldron, I can confirm that I have no friends left.

[@crawdaddy1234]

We can be friends, then. 😂

[@Zarbon000]

@@crawdaddy1234You sound like a Stasis player! 😂🎉

[@crawdaddy1234]

@@Zarbon000 Never played Stasis in Commander, but I did in Legacy. I have played Winter Orb and Static Orb, though.

[@JB-sc3fr]

Nath yes. But you NEED cards to fill their hands up too, for more discards. Howling mine etc. mine was too aggressive and they ran outa cards too fast, slowing me down... 4C omnath yes too. I have land return cards there, everyone gets lands back, but I play them again and again. It's so fun.

[@crawdaddy1234]

@@JB-sc3fr Isn’t the point to empty your opponents’ hands? Why would you give your opponents more options?

[@hemogoblin3076]

It's not about winning, it's about making sure no one else has any fun.

[@CunningLingu1st]

“There is a finite amount of fun to be had in a game of Magic. I aim to possess all of it.”

[@einstein951]

Fun is a zero sum game

[@ginov.7039]

"fun" is subjective, luckily I have a play group that subjugates each other. 😆

[@Asageun]

​@@Cybertech134 you haven't played against a good control deck have you

[@Asageun]

@@Cybertech134 ah, I dislike control, and most of where I've heard that is from control players or in incidents involving control players

[@Titanreaver616]

Possessed Portal is one of my favorite cards of all time! Combined with Smokestack and on board recursion/token producers, is the only way I'm able to orgasm anymore. I knew things would change when I started taking estrogen, but thus surprised me. I used to be able to get off to just the Smokestack, but things have changed and now it takes the full lock to truly get me off.

[@crazydud2432]

possesed portal actually could be really nasty in a deck like Zimone and Dina, you just keep bouncing lands and creating tokens to sac allowing it to stick around forever while eliminating your "friends" resources

[@CameronSMoore]

Mana Breach plus Kodama of the East Tree is beautiful. You tell your group that you are playing it “For the synergy” and that you “just want to guarantee your landfall triggers” and then you watch them slowly erode their own board states! So pretty!

[@peteaos]

The perfect video for the festive season!

[@alchadylan4592]

Possessed Portal seems insanely good with Impulse decks like Prosper, Ragavan, or Rocco. I use Oppression in my Gix deck where the goal is to have everyone handless and hitting each other to draw cards.

[@Bearhuggerus]

Ohhh, and with the access to rituals (even if it is just Jeska's Will) or red artifact reanimation you can get it fairly quickly on the board.

[@alchadylan4592]

@@Bearhuggerus yeah, I can imagine a world where it's like T1 Ragavan, T2 Goblin Engineer, make a treasure, turn 3 Scrap for Treasure and the game just sort of ends if no one has artifact removal

[@mrTjstephens1]

I think rule of law effects are handy if you're playing a deck that's not good on the stack. If you're running a boros deck with high cmc you might want to consider Rule of Law effects

[@crawdaddy1234]

3:57 Random thing I noticed about Catastrophe - you can regenerate non-creature lands (e.g., an artifact land using Welding Jar). 😂

[@Singe0255]

I had to take Obliterate out of my planeswalkers deck because it was too oppressive. Omega-3 Fatty Acid levels of salt with this one.

[@neimaddamienjackson9256]

Oppresion in Tergrid is fun times.

[@ghost64626]

Might I suggest the combination of possibility storm and Drannith Magistrate? Your opponents can no longer cast spells

[@matteobagni1235]

Oh yeah, even storm alone got me several games.

[@kierafurneaux3172]

Or Knowledge pool and teferi

[@akumu2625]

Welp, it is not cheap

[@JonReid01]

What do you mean ​@@akumu2625

[@sirearlgrey2036]

An interesting salty card that only works in 5 color EDH decks is Naked Singularity. It changes the colors of mana produced by each basic land type. It does have Cumulative Upkeep, but the deck I ran it in also had Aeon Hub, which removes the upkeep step. I only ever got it off once because I wanted to see how the table would handle it, then I promptly removed it from that deck.

[@brandonguffey5959]

I like how this video is essentially just a review of my Jegantha Charm Tribal/Land destruction deck.

[@chronostrafe]

I'd say Rule of Law isn't all that bad to play into, it's basically an enchantment version of Eidolon of Rhetoric. Which I mean, it slows the game down, but if your opponent has a removal spell in hand right there, you've effectively wasted that spell and can't respond to it being removed. It leads to a fun game of cat and mouse with each player being forced to think their singular action through.

[@Durtaz]

This is a hilarious concept for a video, and even better in execution. Loved it! Great way to end it too.

[@dallasjthompson]

Pro tip with Possessed Portal; run it with effects like that on Taigam, Sidisi's Hand. You don't draw cards, you put them into your hand, getting around the inconvenience 😊

[@chefpaddie3771]

I like Destructive Force. I'm going to add it to my Osgir deck, I'm already running Wildfire, so why not. Heck, Armageddon sounds fun, too. I have a ton of artifact mana so it's basically a win con, right?

[@AJ_Battle]

Spent the video distracted by the 100 gecs tshirt, youve got good taste in music.

[@crawdaddy1234]

For Possessed Portal, just play with cards that allow you to play off the top of your deck. 👍

[@MasuLW]

My favorite cheap mass land destruction spell is 'From the Ashes.' For the low, low cost of 3 and a red you can instantly discern who at the table is responsible enough to play multiple basic lands in their deck. Heck, if they also play a lot of instant speed spells they get a free ritual for their troubles. (Sucks for that one 5C player, though)

[@IIxIxIv]

It's fun against 5C decks but if people are responsible enough to run their basic lands, this card basically does nothing. The fact that they get to pick what lands come back means they can fix their manabase to be fine.

[@nathanielb5659]

i am a hard defender planeswalker narset, its sometimes a necessary thing to stop people drawing cards. she actually made it into my first commander deck because one of the decks i was playing against was werewolf bs drawing 8-12 cards per turn from combat stuff

[@artichaq]

I see that 100 Gecs shirt...get Dylan & Laura to play a commander game lol

[@christianroot6287]

possessed portal is a powerhouse in Meria, Scholar of Antiquity-- Meria floods the board with cheap artifacts to sac, dodges the draw skip, and ramps into it easy

[@jasonrhome710]

Possessed Portal feels like it'd be fun in a madness deck... Especially if you have one of the cards that increases or removes the max hand size.

[@blargenspargle]

Now I want to play a temur deck with all the "turn land into island" cards and all the boil cards lol

[@controlaltdeleteish]

Phyrexian censor plays hell with omniscience

[@ThandrieDavis]

Obliterate predates the existence of planeswalkers as a card type. Lots of opportunity there.

[@mf2943]

and now its time to build a deck with ALLL of them inside to punish all the unfair shit some players use without any consideration

[@andrewbays494]

Possessed portal and a token creator every turn can result in a board lock leaving you with permanents and opponents top decking. I used to use it in Arcum Dagsson. if i could get to the point of having the creators in play i could just go find the lock. Also was just handy to slow down whenever I needed it as I made a lot of artifacts.

[@alilhard]

That last bit is the reason I think rule 0 talk is really important any time you sit down for a game of commander, even with a playgroup you're used to. My main playgroup is very casual with about no infinite combos and not too many counterspells in general so at the start of almost every game we bring multiple decks and if someone really wants to play one deck that can't deal with fogs then the player who has a fog deck won't play it. We always give room to try a new deck a few times before making a decision but then it can lead to a deck being "banned" like my Zada deck because it's just way too explosive so the only times I'll play it is when people come with tons of removal. That keeps each game somewhat balanced and fun for everyone.

[@christopherporter5472]

While I knew about 90% of these, this is a great idea for a list video. PK, do you have a list of unique staples that you personally like for all your decks? For instance, I love Sunbirds' Invocation and play it in every red deck.

[@TruthlessHero]

The "casual" edh players at my LGS stopped complaining about my stax and hate pieces when they realized that: A.) I'm not changing my strategies to accommodate their wins B.) While the pieces may be irritating, they tend to punish greedy players a lot more than non greedy players C.) They are the one responsible for equipping their lists with the cards they need/want to play the game. IMO, it all comes down to this; if you don't want my list to have access to a card effect, then have the respect for the rules and design of the game to interact with that card effect with your deck building. Don't use non game actions to try and convince me to remove them from my list. That's just like stax, except you don't have to modify your game plan at all to get what you want. We're all playing the same game, we all have access to the same cards (assuming you're playing somewhere proxy friendly, and if your LGS isn't ok with proxies in a casual edh game find somewhere else to play) and were all limited to the same amount of cards. That stax/hate player had to make choices of what to include in their deck as well, and I've seen lots of games where the pieces you play just don't get it done.

[@ginov.7039]

💯

[@GellyVelly]

I love this! This is how to play magic!!

[@nemmielicious]

Cards in the Boil and Choke category of "specifically you, yes you with all the islands, screw you in particular" are probably the ones that most warrant a NOOOOOOOO scream from the victim. Just the thought of your *friend* putting that stuff in their deck, not knowing if somebody would be playing blue that night. A card that is either backbreaking or completely dead. That is the most hardcore imo.

[@ty_sylicus]

Someone here will undoubtedly build a deck with all these cards in it now.

[@ginov.7039]

This is why I have my own play group. For years,I rarely play Commander in the wild.

[@yummines]

One card that can cause a lot of salt is Wave of Vitriol, because if someone is playing a 5 color deck, chances are they do not have many basics. So often it's basically just all their lands gone. If you're playing 1 or 2 colors meanwhile it won't affect you that much. It also doubles as Enchantment and Artifact removal, so it can reset those players to almost zero as well.

[@Littlewh0]

I have a portal in my Tergrid deck, haven't had it hit the table yet tho. Probably it'd be followed by scoop scoop scoop unless I can be killed by whats on table

[@Mil89GR]

Not as as salty because it needs a proper setup but "Worldslayer" equipped to Zurgo can create some serious amount of salt. Since Worldslayer destroys all permanents and Zurgo is indestructible on your turn, I have managed to do that leaving a wasteland(not the card) of a board . Let's say that the opponents did not expected that cause I already had pure steel paladin and when I casted the equipment,Zurgo was already in play and I equipped it for zero mana. All of the opponents were surprised but only one fella and as pleasantly surprised. The other two though....not so much - they decided to scoop. Since then I have not played my Zurgo deck again.

[@tinfoilslacks3750]

Me on my way to pick some of these up and remind everyone they don't like playing commander, they like hanging out with their friends and commander is a pretense to do that.

[@busterampleforth9806]

This video was very edutaining.

[@cedarbobedar7223]

Possessed Portal was in the first EDH deck I ever built lol - I wasn't sure how strong to go so I just pulled all the crazy shit out of my binder that fit the colours I picked and ran with it lol - inadverently built a weird janky stax deck with Arcades Sabboth 🤣

[@captianbacon]

If your playing the portal playing alot of activated effects that produce tokens is a really easy way to wether the storm till everyone is hellbent but you or with you.

[@darkrexkigntstone8773]

Rule of Law is a fair card.

[@narvuntien]

Stony silence and Rest in Peace are my preferred hate cards

[@andrewspears8891]

Thinking of putting oppression into my enchantments deck, discard one, draw 1-3 cards on each enchantment I cast. Sounds good to me.

[@artist91fb]

Love boil! Just bought a 9th edition foil playset.

[@lostmarble540]

Zur's Weirding: 3U enchantment - Players play with their hands revealed. If a player would draw a card, they reveal it instead. Then any other player may pay 2 life. If a player does, put that card into its owner’s graveyard. Otherwise, that player draws a card. This is a good way to make sure nobody at the table has any gas. You can even break the symmetry if you have card advantage effects that don't technically draw cards like impulse draw or graveyard recursion. Also this card has three separate arts and I hate them all.

[@sashad3142]

Most people I know don't play much if any land destruction type cards. Maybe a pillow fort type card here and there, but that's it. Mass land destruction to me basically says, "okay guys, let's not have fun."

[@LucasBuilds]

my fave hypothetical Fuck You is using MoM heliod's flip side that gives everything flash to cast Silence on another player's upkeep. MY TURN NOW

[@DubbedAnimeAndLife]

You know silence is an instant, right?

[@LucasBuilds]

@@DubbedAnimeAndLife oh shit it is. always assumed it was a sorcery so it wasn't just a 2 mana fuck you.

[@DAsrada]

May i bring up a Commander? Smeagol Helpful Guide does 2 things people hate - he messes with their lands, and he mills them.

[@shanegrant9576]

Possessed portal is in my Tigred deck.

[@zackpumpkinhead8882]

May I suggest Nature's Revolt and Ezuri's Predation? Works especially well against those *pesky* ramp decks!

[@timw9745]

I don’t need instructions to not have friends thank you

[@MegaGenguy]

My playgroup is very fine with players bringing MLD in decks and other stax pieces if it means nobody is allowed to get salty from infinite combo wins. My. Tameshi deck runs practically all of the cards in this video that it can run because Tameshi breaks the symmetry of cards like rule of law, possessed portal, and mana breach because he can play things from the graveyard, technically isn't casting anything with his ability, and draws a lot of cards from opponents returning their lands to hand. Another fun fact about Boil is that it is a red instant that can be tutored and cast by Sunforger. I have the two in every one of my equipment decks as a pure spite play if a blue player is about to win or kill me.

[@HiRoSaToMa]

Me a windgrace player: "you're not supposed to play obliterate?"

[@SoylentGreenMuffins]

I used to use Possessed Portal as a wincon in Krenko.

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

LOL I use Obliterate in my Mogis Group Slug enchantment, despite the MLD my opponents have yet to truly be salty about that deck since I tell them I designed it after Undertaker vs Mankind cage match since Obliterate conveniently does not wreck Enchantments. - If you use the old blue cards that let you change parts of the text cards (Sleight of Mind) you can make it so instead of Boil destroying Islands you can make it destroy some other basic lands :p

[@johnrobertson1]

Throw down Rule of Law and proliferate Jace, Unraveler of Secrets into a properly salt-inducing wincon.

[@tomheagney5179]

Territorial Dispute and Storm Cauldron are 2 of my favourite cards. I used to play it in my Mono Red Etali control deck. Along with Possessed Portal, Ankh Of Mishra, Uphill Battle/Smoke and just even more horrible crap

[@Zindle]

Sire of insanity Is my Favorite :D I play almost all of those cards in one deck or another. Perks of hosting ;)

[@raydelmartinez2905]

Taking notes on some of these, for research purposes 😀

[@jaibell4835]

KZbin didn't notify me of this video even though I watch you consistently 😭

[@marcoottina654]

nice! what about a list of your pet cards?

[@tapedeccard]

Two words. Naked Singularity. A WUBRGers delight and the bane of every mono colored deck.

[@thecollegecraftsman2865]

to add to the anti blue/island tools, Omen of Fires from Alliance is only about a dollar and returns all islands to the players hands, but it also hates on all the white players at the table too. at 5 mana, is easily one of the best salty, semi-targeted hate cards I ever play with.

[@danza71]

Bought some nice face shit Vince, thanks. They'd dispatched it before the video even finished, insane.

[@captianbacon]

Theres also a creature version of rule of law from zendikar3 its a 3drop white flyer.

[@faerie7dragon]

Mana Breach 2U: King-Make the LandFall Deck. Possesed Portal, on the other hand, it could be good with the 4th Doctor and Sarah...

[@neimaddamienjackson9256]

I play Mana Breach in 50 creature Chulane blink/landfall. Not allowed to play it anymore in my pod.

[@Redryno1227]

My friends are so loose after this video

[@DiscoStuIII]

I really want to use boil in response to a counterspell one day

[@russelldavies160]

This card brings the salt and will loose you friends hands down Card Name: Desolation Mana Cost: 1BlackBlack Mana Value: 3 Types: Enchantment Card Text: At the beginning of each end step, each player who tapped a land for mana this turn sacrifices a land. Desolation deals 2 damage to each player who sacrificed a Plains this way. Flavor Text: "Kill a creature, destroy the present. Kill the land, destroy the future."

[@mn-pegasus]

Eidolon of rhetoric is rule of law on a stick

[@PleasantKenobi]

Yes.

[@Hel1mutt]

These cards may be cheap but the price you pay is your friends ❤

[@TelvanniGuard]

I may be going deaf but the video seemed really quiet after the ad break.

[@fatpad00]

Im gonna have to get Obliterate for the Bolas Superfriends that im planning to build

[@codeym8070]

i have a Sire of Insanity commander deck that my friends keep telling me they want to play against. It's the only one i refuse to bring out. Liliana's Caress, Fell Specter, Sword of Feast and Famine, a few land destructions, and similarly themed cards. Maybe I will bust it out after all! Who wants to take bets on how many games it'll take before they never speak to me again?

[@kylejansen7281]

Saltiest card I've ever played was Grip of Chaos. You don't realize how many things target until this card is in play, and then the game gets reduced to a literal slog as some problem can't be answered without a sweeper or some immense level of luck. I built around it, and even I was miserable. Heaven forbid someone casts Beast Within or Chaos Warp and you're forced to count.

[@garrethatch5362]

Video starts at 2:25

[@firyunda]

possessed portal is a gross synergy with Derevi Emperial Tactician and seed born muse. everyone else sacs everything while you keep activating derevi's put into play ability

[@energy-turtle]

Decree of Annihilation baby 🎉🎉🎉 🌋

[@Asian_Caleb]

For some reason I feel like selling self care products to magic the gathering players is a public service

[@Asian_Caleb]

My favorite “I’m a fucking dick” card is Spreading Plague: Whenever a creature enters the battlefield, destroy all other creatures that share a color with it. They can't be regenerated.

[@Asageun]

Eldrazi gonna have fun with that

[@ZSAITOSEI]

I run a Mardu deck with an 8 mana commander, it's basically stax until you hit 8, I actively use a few of these dickhead cards to keep everyone down at my speed. Boil is best ❤ Also, use Dream Tides!

[@deanofcool]

I run both boil and flashfires in my mono red goblin deck. lol.

[@goatshield193]

I feel like Rule of Law is the least oppressive/annoying/salty card on the list here. Sure its annoying but generally it's going to keep the people that are ahead down and give the people that are behind a chance to potentially catch up

[@DarthTUK]

Painful Quandary. I have an copy enchantment deck. So imagine 6 Painful Quandarys at the same time >:3

[@BREAKERisDEAD]

How is Apocalypse not on this list? Exiling all permanents for 5 mana is gross

[@Dracomandriuthus]

Notably Hokori plus Eon hub is an A+B=lands dont untap. Ever.

[@piralos1329]

Having played with and against rule of law, it's honestly not thaaaaat bad, imo? Just makes people really have to make sure that their one spell counts!! If you go down the "resolve rule of law and counter all your shit" route tho, then it can be salt inducing, but I think that's more bc you're not letting them play, rather than just saying "oh we're doing one spell each, to keep it fair." That said, oppression is probably my most salt inducing card personally. It's not even that bad!! It's just that it makes me PICK a card to discard, every time!! It's like why being milled in paper is so frustrating, bc you have to manually do it every time, and see every card go.

[@derekmccoy2799]

I've lost a lot of money this year... damn I hope next year is better for prices...

[@Mommzr]

Possessed portal is made for Muldrotha

[@sethbennedetti753]

As a poor person who plays magic, thank you for the recommendations

[@TripleGProductions]

Narset is my fav commander

[@wafflez9191]

I hope this loosing word was intentional...

[@PleasantKenobi]

Of course.... :|

[@PKSandles]

No Spelltithe Enforcer??? No og Sheoldred? Prophery Nodes think I spelled that one wrong but still....