Cheater Or Grandmaster?? (Guess The Elo #30)

[@CoffeTime7]

Closed account? Becauae that was your account , you maded that account for video recoeding, like other videos cheaters, u dont know about chess ,

[@folk_love]

bruh

[@juanjing6145]

shin of pame

[@OwOMoment]

pin of shame 10 months later smh

[@CoffeTime7]

The only who cheat is owner of this channel , for sure ,

[@OwOMoment]

@@CoffeTime7 what high tier grammer wow

[@nikolasdaniel8755]

Didn't see a trapped bishop for 14 moves sees a queen sack with smothered mate instantly.

[@gustavopinedagonzalez316]

that's a typical mating pattern

[@manawearblack]

@@gustavopinedagonzalez316 That's an even more typical bishop trap pattern lol

[@kiliabgonzalez7826]

@@gustavopinedagonzalez316 seeing the trapped bishop is easier than seeing the smothered mate IMO

[@khaelkugler]

@@gustavopinedagonzalez316 Yeah definitely. If he does lots of puzzles then he'll be used to seeing smothered mates more so than trapped bishops. I've had a few bishop trap puzzles but far more smothered mates.

[@Ninterd2]

@@manawearblack Not if you've only ever done mating puzzles in your life.

[@RampageXBoss]

He should make that into a series 'cheater or grandmaster'. Like people should send him games from closed accounts or grandnasters and he can't have the engine up and has to figure out if they are cheating or not. Would be cool

[@crbrearley]

I think this would be easier than you'd expect but might still be quite instructive. Engine moves seem to me to be less logical but somehow still work perfectly. Or have scary stupid geometry. The strong players just seem to know because the engine does things like leave the king in the open because it sees no danger whereas a human player could never be sure and would guard against it.

[@Speedster___]

Would like some sort of binary guessing game to be sure

[@descendency]

@@crbrearley I think it would be harder than you might think. I do agree that the engines can be kinda scatter brained at times. But sometimes GMs just play h4 h5.

[@Tyler-bp4md]

thats an interesting idea

[@Arrow_67]

That was actually what I thought this was before I clicked on the video XD.

[@SkylarGlider]

"G4," Dumbledore said calmly 2:49

[@Tanner_777]

lol

[@alterran1988]

Hi Basil

[@memo-sn1gu]

I just reached that part omg lmao

[@anshumanagrawal346]

I see what you did there

[@TheMaskedWarrior9001]

Ok basil from omori

[@minminsjam]

Gotham: "Just because you've never played a game above 40% accuracy your entire life doesn't mean this person is cheating" Dude in chat: "Not true I played at 50 once" *IM destroyed with facts and logic*

[@caiodaltro4208]

Twitch chat once again destroying Levy's arguments via hard work and intense arguments

[@noobsunleashed9703]

LMAO

[@DanielHatchman]

Got him

[@potatobake2707]

yea he not true i got 99.7 once…. given it only lasted 7 moves my best long game was like 96

[@lred1383]

@@potatobake2707 In my experience, it's these extremely long or short games that have the highest percentages. When it's all theory, or when you just shuffle your pieces around for 50 moves, there's no real opportunity for big mistakes, so you consistently build up 85+ percent accuracy. If the 96% game was shorter than 40 moves though? That's impressive

[@aryehleder]

15:47 “oh it’s so big! Yes, yes, yes, yes” - a lot of good streamers out there, but nobody makes chess as sexy as this guy does

[@anshumanagrawal346]

Lol

[@ryanselfaison8123]

His chess is insane....

[@SahnigReingeloetet]

The sexiest thing in chess is easily an accepted Scotch opening. Just two queens getting punished hard

[@guncatto2625]

@@SahnigReingeloetet lmao

[@binodtharu8348]

@@SahnigReingeloetet lmao

[@theoriginallamp100]

2:49 when you see your long lost friend Jeefhour and manage to connect together again followed by uncontrolled happiness

[@lucasng4712]

LMAO

[@siddsen9990]

The only thing better than Guess the Elo is levy's banana shirt

[@IPlayAutoFill]

Or 400 elo games

[@Fishtuna1]

69 likes

[@executorarktanis2323]

Yeah pretty bananas

[@korosensei4873]

Who would win A pineapple shirt guy Or an IM with banana shirt

[@Phoenix-nh9kt]

Or hikarus pinapple shirt

[@martinpaddle]

There's this misconception that lower rated players can't see tactical combinations. If the opponent sucks and blunders into a puzzle-like position, I can occasionally turn into Morphy-mode, and then get accused of cheating. What is holding many players back is in many cases not lack of tactical ability but high blunder frequency and lack of positional understanding

[@CarlDaCool168]

Yeah when I was 800 rapid I found room for knight sac and if he took it was forced mate, I found a rook for pawn sacrifice and if he took I would have taken another room and pawn back and would have(probably) checkmated him and I found a clean knight sacrifice to win a rook. It’s nuts what I can find sometimes. And then I pin my queen to my king on the fifth move.

[@hahayes5861]

@@CarlDaCool168 real

[@lorefox201]

​@@hahayes5861 he's right tho

[@WarriorsFan-ob3rt]

I’m 2300 and that guy was 100% cheating. No human below 2400 sees that combination, especially knight takes pawn.

[@VuNam_MCVN]

@@WarriorsFan-ob3rt ok

[@thebishopchess]

Shirt with fruit on it gives the wearer: Tactics +10 Opening knowledge +15 Endgame knowledge +30 Streaming ability +10 Arrow drawing +50 Understanding of memes -15

[@mathieuaurousseau100]

Appetite for juicers +40

[@Headhunter_212]

Dexterity +1 Hit Dice +2

[@burgerdoessports]

Lesbianism +20

[@mathgod]

ADS in his videos-100

[@primtve_dope9568]

also limits your vocabulary to "i don't even care chat"

[@johnchessant3012]

11:46 "The king dominates the other king, it's kinda kingky"

[@Speedster___]

Kingky?

[@johnchessant3012]

@@Speedster___ Yes

[@user-pt2el1tt1r]

​@@Speedster___ Pun

[@ph34rocious]

Levy: Is this guy cheating? Also Levy 5 minutes later: Stop calling people who play better games than you cheaters!

[@joakimquensel597]

How difficult was this series of moves to spot? As a very mediocre (1000 rated) player it looked almost impossible (but beautiful) but what do you higher rated players think?

[@somebodyuknow2507]

@@joakimquensel597 quite difficult. You have to see that you want d5, but having your rook on e4 would lose initiative when the knight takes it and you have to spend time recapturing. You have to then realize that sacing the exchange allows you to get d5 in which lets you bring the queen to the party. With time, I would say the average 1800 finds this. After getting Qd6+ in, calculating the forcing lines of the king hunt is even more impressive considering the backwards knight move (2000 or so), but it’s also possible that black YOLO’d on instinct.

[@lainiwakura6921]

@@joakimquensel597 difficult but a 1300 would see those moves occasionally, especially more aggressive players who loves to farm brilliants and blunders by saccing pieces

[@johannesschwenzer1346]

"It's a lot easier to see G4 when you watch the game and I'm yelling the move for about 5 minutes" made me laugh quite long for about 4 times

[@3ternalHours]

I think you might mean “four minutes”

[@idontgetthejoke4393]

@@3ternalHours does anyone care?

[@thebishopchess]

As a Bishop myself, I can confirm some of my light squared comrades are tired of being a part of the Catholic church

[@Speedster___]

Lol

[@therook3008]

Hello the bishop

[@obvAnt]

@@therook3008 hello the rook

[@jessesmith6824]

@@obvAnt rock*

[@idontgetthejoke4393]

@@jessesmith6824 no, its spelt rook

[@mrjavier5445]

gotham: g4 g4 g4 g4 g4 g4 gotham suscriber: why lose a pawn when i can get it for free? gotham: what? random noob: makes 16 moves later and hangs his bishop gotham: wait what? gotham suscriber: told you gotham: this is my last guess the elo ever, just... just leave me alone

[@Speedster___]

Lol

[@cubicinfinity2]

I analyze my games afterwards and just imagine Stockfish commenting on it in Levi's voice.

[@cragnamorra]

There's a kernel of a mod or app idea in there somewhere....

[@thesupersisters6415]

Same bro! But it is not Levi. It is Levy

[@cubicinfinity2]

@@thesupersisters6415 oops

[@binodtharu8348]

@@cubicinfinity2 edit it na! There is an "edit" option in yt comments.

[@DaisyZhangAI]

I hear Levi’s voice while I play 😂

[@nick0424]

"imagine missing a tactic for fourteen moves in a row." That's me every game! 😭😀😭😂

[@guillermodolla4776]

I feel you...Usually i miss every tactic for every game in a row

[@psymar]

yeah, but usually you don't have the *same* tactic available that long!

[@davideburgio4121]

In his defense and yours, if you miss it once it's not super likely that you'll find it later on, especially if it's in a zone of the board that looks quiet and far away from the action. You sort of tend to focus your attention elsewhere, which is natural and not so wrong in blitz

[@BlackPandaz420]

Whos more dangerous? Levy with banana shirt Or Hikaru with pineapple shirt

[@ordinarryalien]

Magnus in a hot tub.

[@niranjannair3633]

@@ordinarryalien noice

[@youtubewatcher8982]

@@ordinarryalien someone HAS to bring up Magnus into everything... does he live in your head or something?

[@priyanshchess4836]

@@youtubewatcher8982 it's called an opinion you bozo....also magnus in hot tub is better ... and the fact that you wrote this comment makes me think he lives in your head or something.. if you don't believe me, look at this kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIfVd614bt-agsk

[@jerrythemouse2439]

@@youtubewatcher8982 You mad at Magnus or smth?

[@kushunadkat9087]

15:29 I have a really dirty mind… I laughed so hard at this-“This advantage is so big. It’s so BIG! Yes!” 😂😂😂😂xD

[@mncedisinelsonmlumbi8003]

Bruh 😂 😂

[@NicaremE]

To be fair he was nutting for throughout the second half of that game

[@JacobWillian-u4u]

😫😫😫😫😏😏😏😏

[@user-dh8oi2mk4f]

0:26 Levy is so powerful that he managed to change shirts in an instant

[@SahnigReingeloetet]

Two kings chillin on a chessboard, one tile apart cause they ain‘t like dat

[@weeaboo_owo]

15:47 close your eyes and this segment has a whole new meaning.

[@drcgaming4195]

"just because this person is playing good doesnt mean they are a cheater" levy literally 2 minutes ago: "this is a cheater or a gm"

[@passingshadow8934]

That's why "or a gm?"

[@losif4957]

15:50 "oh yes it's so big" that would really fit in an out of context vid

[@FreshtoMe]

Levy says the game is Bananas while wearing a banana shirt

[@cosisthebest]

Could have been on purpose idk

[@manawearblack]

Congratulations, you have found the joke

[@FreshtoMe]

@@manawearblack who pissed in your cereal bowl this morning

[@nashhfrr]

4:02 Levy gets 10 subs because of this moment

[@ayanokojikiyotaka6988]

"In terms of the whole package, I am the best chess youtuber . No not the whole package, I give my package to only one person." - Levy Rozman - GothamChess

[@TU22ism]

I swear I look at the Twitch chat at really bad times. A comment said, "Just rubbing one out mom." Lol. And there we go.

[@littleblackcat2273]

I saw that one too and it stuck in my mind, it's at 16:37 - of course it's from all the fun starting at 15:24 after which the Twitch chat goes a bit bonkers.

[@Hahahahaaahaahaa]

Gotta love the 1200s in chat asking "how can a 1700 see that?!"

[@cyrnoz1803]

Yeah, every episode you have people spamming "600 elo, he is so bad" and the guy ends up being 500 elo higher than them

[@juancamilocastano3089]

15:41 the exact minute when your parents enters your room

[@YourPhysicsSimulator]

I like how the first game is just Levy skipping moves desperately to see if Gotham sub played g4... I guess "jEfFoRR!"

[@Timeflow_X]

I love being able to hear The Voice

[@pet6598]

#sbchess

[@TheMapGod275]

15:45 “It’s so big” -Levy Rosman 2021

[@HiddenBush64]

In that last game, I like how me and Levy have the exact same reaction when the elo is revealed. It’s insane how that elo is 400

[@PerfectSense77]

Troll game, that's why. Look at the guy's account.

[@HiddenBush64]

@@PerfectSense77 oh well I didn’t think of checking his account. Did you check it yourself, or was there like a part after the video

[@noteminemsburneraccount324]

Netflix: are you still watching? 15:40: *somebodys uncle*

[@g.42605]

smothered mate was first shown here

[@matthebee]

4:02 Chat : "My Mom Thought I Was Watching Pawn"

[@colesmith6874]

Why do you have a tennis racket as wall art? Don’t tell me Levy actually does things besides chess

[@ShanomoBro]

Don't worry, much like his lamp, it also plays chess

[@thebishopchess]

maybe there’s a Rosen Rozman collab in the future

[@Auditas]

That’s a Babolat Pure Aero 2018 in the back (Yeah I need to flex my tennis racquet opening preparation)

[@Not_A_CIA_Agent]

Yeah he does your mom

[@carboncompounds9377]

@@Not_A_CIA_Agent and people are still trying to find out who did urs.

[@ambiverter]

2:50 to 3:10 I just couldn't stop laughing at Levy's repeated frustration 🤣 Love the series btw

[@nutonpapaya]

The Waffle House Has Found Its New Host

[@mrtb7676]

15:58 I watched a rather animated GothamCity clip during a break at work and some of my coworkers could definitely hear it.

[@iPyroNigma]

"His advantage is so *big*, oh yes. Yes, yes, yes!" GothamChess 2021

[@guymeir5403]

I’m happy that the last video wasn’t the last guest the ELO.

[@SkylarGlider]

Yeah

[@hellohi2413]

Aren’t we all

[@MiracleCOD]

“Just because you’ve never played a game above 40% accuracy”. This had me dying. But that guy did lowkey play like a GM because there’s no way in hell I would’ve found that and I’m ~1800-1900. That guy might be a GM one day making attacks like that 😂

[@smrtfasizmu6161]

I am in the 1800s and I thought about the rook sac even before I saw the continuation, the enemy King is wide open, I think I would have a reasonable chance of finding that combination and then when you are already attacking the king and king is on the king walk both of us would find the Knight sac which followed.

[@MiracleCOD]

@@smrtfasizmu6161 that’s a good point, some moves just feel so natural and fluent that even giving up a piece just feels right: also probably why I’ll never have a master title lmaoo

[@lerp9993]

"This episode is absolutely bananas" - Levy Rozman

[@jgn2112]

15:40 - "Oh yes! Yes! Yes! It's so big! Yes!" - Levy (or Julie)

[@argiris_pap_9892]

19:34 that sounded like a soda being opened

[@lukasmakesmusictoooldtolea8122]

At this point I feel like Levi should get himself a dog and name it Jifur

[@pesterian41]

JIFUR JIFUR JIFUR JIFUR JIFUR IFUR JIFUR JIFUR

[@FM-edits]

2:48 the timestamp for the g4 madness

[@adman3374]

The delay after "this episode is absolutely bananas" lasted the exact amount of time for me to realize Levy was wearing a banana shirt. Well played sir. Well played.

[@tuddgrimley8532]

I was just deciding how to express this very thought, but the job is already done. All there's left for me is to hobble off toward the sunset, bindle on my shoulder.

[@GeorgePickensburgh14]

Ayo Levy??? “it's so big” Me: check and mate

[@supremeboi1x]

9:14 as someone who has played yugioh, I was not expecting to hear “you should’ve set a trap” and “gottems” within 7 seconds in a chess video

[@rynoxgd]

18:53 is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. I’m dying laughing

[@stevemcculloch8915]

18:00 "no one knows how to play the KIA or KID" that was this 1st Gotham video I watched 😂 🤣

[@Standard____]

‘They played so unbelievably that I thought they were a gm’ so they’re better than Levy. But Levy beats cheaters (flags them)

[@johnson949]

*Bishop waiting to be trapped* Bishop: “fine I’ll do it myself”

[@hctaz]

My parents: “What the hell are you watching?” Me: “First off, I’m 27… but, to answer your question: this is International Master Mr. GothamChess himself, and he’s showing us how not to play chess.”

[@thesupersisters6415]

My parents are tired of me watching chess all the time

[@c1ph9r]

Legends said this guy is still screaming "Jeefour" or "G4" or whatever.

[@amosdraak3536]

Yeah, “g4,” which is the alpha-numerical name (the square) Cheers

[@c1ph9r]

@@amosdraak3536 Ohhh! wow! I didn't realized that!! OMG!😱😱😱 THANKS for enlightened me! you sir really deserves a pin from Levy.

[@amosdraak3536]

:/ Hope you weren’t being sarcastic. I didn’t know if you were a native English speaker.

[@c1ph9r]

@@amosdraak3536 no. English isn't my native language but I appreciate your assumption 😁😁

[@tylergregorakis.5375]

“it’s so big it’s so big uhh yes” - levy

[@rockyjforay]

Qa4 smoking a blunt on the outskirts of town - best Levy quote

[@brantnuttall]

4:54 actually you can't trap it at that position because you'll hang your knight.

[@PolandMapping]

Triple digit. Well probably not anymore lol

[@dabun4704]

That first game with the bishop is so frustrating, even i as a 600 saw that and was screaming for it, i might not have known that it would've become trapped on the first move but i would've just wanted to kick that bishop out of there.

[@Markaras]

0:05 bananas shirt

[@ng1n369]

2:46 my guy went through all stages of grie4 in a span of fifteen moves

[@typicalfurry2747]

G4

[@Mati-zc2ym]

I was hoping that Botez sub would actually hang a queen

[@quantumchaos7549]

15:47 Levy: Oh it’s so big! Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

[@baileysmith4744]

almost every single player on Guess the Elo submits their best game, so it makes sense why they are usually high accuracy for the better games (obviously not the triple digit games)

[@PerfectSense77]

Nah, mostly people submit entertaining games with twists. Someone's best game would be boring as they just would totally destroy, not much to say about it.

[@7aygames35]

@@PerfectSense77 what if both play super good and you still win, thats one of my best games. I played at 94% and he played at 86.

[@dhruvgupta5658]

15:39 GOTHAM- CHILLL- DUDE- PLSSS "ITS SOO BIG OH YESS-" BRO PLS

[@gamingdrain1047]

The only thing more bananas than this episode is Levy’s shirt

[@Akamaikai0923]

That subtle pause after he said bananas. Lol.

[@xXSecondi619Xx]

Hey levy! I’ve been watching your videos for a few months now, love the guess the Elo series! But I’d love to make a suggestion! You should record how close you were to each guess and at the end of the video you can add your total to see how well you did compared to other guess the elo episodes going forward

[@niksutin4195]

1:32 Oh my god, been searching a VPN for my toaster for ages! Thank you Levy!

[@loldirt2893]

Legend for watching the vpns

[@maxschmidt4887]

I hate how whenever a plot twist or a big moment is coming, an ad pops up.

[@jordylont1879]

“This episode is absolutely bananas” I like how he didn’t point out the shirt st all

[@asddsaasdfg2846]

Well that is the real historical moment 😉

[@kylebaryonyx9478]

Levy losing his mind in time to his own tune at the pawn mate is hysterical

[@Happythonk]

1:32 Don't you just hate it when your pop tarts start speaking russian

[@snapshot6444]

Samsung smart toaster

[@leetdoe2136]

16:30 "step-gotham your advantage is soo big" lol'd

[@informal70]

I connected to France with surksharf VPN on my toaster but my bread didn't turn into French Toast. What a scam

[@thestatic]

If you got surksharf im afraid you mightve left your card details on a phishing website

[@kingsolo6241]

He or she has studied this smother mate for so long and got their chance.

[@ayaansaiyad1147]

I hit 1650 yesterday, was closer to 700 at the start of the year, thanks a lot Levy, I couldn't have done it without your content 😀. Also, was considering buying a course to progress further and wondered if you would recommend me to buy one of your courses for my current elo or are they are aimed at fundamentals?

[@abracadabra8501]

wow congrats! Did you just use his youtube videos and practice or also use other paid courses or a tutor?

[@Sporrik]

I am at a similar rating and recently bought his Intermediate Boot Camp. I honestly recommend it because it goes over some decent information. I learned chess up to this point off of pure instinct and natural ability, so I never really took the time to study the basics or fundamentals. The Intermediate Boot Camp covers a lot of concepts and methodologies that I skipped over during my climb, even if some of the content is aimed at lower rated players.

[@ayaansaiyad1147]

@Zoë Cheney I haven't had any tutors no, I just watch gothams KZbin videos for entertaintment and learnt a lot as a side effect. I think it's truly amazing how much there is to learn here on this channel while enjoying the content. But to progress further I think it's wise for me to look into buying courses.

[@ayaansaiyad1147]

@@Sporrik Cheers for the insight. I think I'm in the same boat where I likely have skipped over certain concepts.

[@rikthecuber]

I hit 1850 from 1200 this year!

[@jojomark4946]

15:46 "Ohhh it's so big! Yes yes yes yes yes!" gotham out of context compilation

[@treywood8889]

I like it when he said the video is bananas and he is wearing bananas 😂

[@yunikage]

If you know tactics from playing chess, you see G4 instantly. If you know tactics from puzzles, you never see it. Smothered mate is the reverse.

[@oubrikbobaker]

27:00 Someone in chat said "600 hyperbullet YEP" and it made me tear up laughing I'm actually dying hahahahhahahahahahaha.

[@psychoman8952]

4:35 It’s actually around 5 or 6 moves that he could have trapped the bishop with an advantage. If he played g4 and then h5, the rook would have taken the knight on e5, attacking the queen.

[@fungusman1171]

Levy’s banana shirt vs Hikaru’s pineapple shirt: The Ultimate Battle

[@kurms3375]

"This episode is absolutely bananas" -Levy, Banana-themed polo, 2023

[@paulsummerfield6357]

Why cheat? this is a game afterall, I play for enjoyment and nothing else. I've realised long ago that I was not going to be top class and was happy to find my level of mediocrity. Thanks for the upload! 😂😂👍👍

[@ankitminz5872]

Thanks for the game lol

[@albuspercivalwulfricbriand5110]

15:47 "Ooooooooohhhh its soo big" - Gotham

[@johnmcnally7423]

Do his sponsor know that he really take the piss out of them, it’s absolutely hilarious!

[@michelcharbonnier7603]

"This advantage is sooo big" Damn, Levy 🤣

[@mouug]

15:48 i'am blind what's happening??

[@ferlamer4240]

Mans just went from "that's kinky" to "It's so big" to "I will never talk about your sacks again"

[@tonybush4615]

The priceless and rare occasion when a player is so inept you can see the "Oh FFS!" Logos roll in Levy's eyes like you just hit triple 7s on a slot machine!

[@abetts123]

Just a heads up. a VPN doesn’t really make your internet secure. Websites can still get loads of info from your browser. Happy to see a 6 mo sponsor. But be wary of touting the company line too much.

[@tctrainconstruct2592]

6:57 I think it wasn't a mistake because if white makes a threat black has to defend it and they cant defend their bishop at the same time

[@andrzejwilk7316]

I have decided that i will politely yet relentlessly keep asking Levy to make a vid commentary on the Polgar - Anand game from world title unification tournament in 2005. PLEASE! Gotham, you are THE Caro-Kann guy on YT

[@rolirolster]

Is it worth the damaged structure to capture that Bishop? Also around the 28:10 mark, I had to prove to my wife that I was watching a chess video! 😂😂

[@hmpesky08]

Soo I'm a 600s and just before I watched this video, I executed the traxler won in 8 moves. I've been trying it for months after your video released....and today I got my first best case senerio. Felt good. And now I have a 100percent game.

[@iurifulgidi978]

"this episode is absolutley bananas", you can't tell me he didn't put a shirt with bananas on it on purpuse

[@jorgelay5069]

Look he saw pawn g4, he just didn’t like it

[@romeylon4204]

hello levy, i know youre probably not going to read this but i just want to say a huge thanks, seriously, i used to play chess just for the sake of win and i never learned. just play same boring openings, and eventually abandoned chess as eternal 1600. but it was you how lighted my pation for chess back, not because of your great content, but rather simply your amazing personality and behavior ,your just making me smile way more than i used to. and now, thanks to you i see chess in a whole different way and a better one! i actually eagre to learn and i understand ideas way better by listening to your explnations becuase they are very direct. thanks levy, i hope you know youre doing great work in teaching and entertaining others! and im sending you tons of support from israel haha, i really wish youd read this :-)